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Offline Robster

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15350 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 07:38:22 pm »
Am I the only one that wasn't surprised by the possibility that Rafa had left ?
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Offline LV

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« Reply #15351 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 07:40:58 pm »
Am I the only one that wasn't surprised by the possibility that Rafa had left ?

Nope. That’s why we all shat ourselves when we saw it. We knew it was totally possible.

Offline Sean

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15352 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 08:12:26 pm »
The takeover is truly our only hope then.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears?

I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man  :lol:

Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up?
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Offline Thumbheed

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15353 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 09:14:01 pm »
The takeover is truly our only hope then.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears?

I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man  :lol:

Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up?

Surely at this stage we can discount Mike Ashley PR conspiracies? It seems like the only question here is whether the takeover goes through or not. I'd be far more inclined to believe this was a publicity stunt from BZG. There are far more signs pointing to this than there is it being an Ashley cuntcoction.

It would make less sense for him to not offer Rafa anything, proof of funds or not.

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« Reply #15354 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 09:21:33 pm »
It's this total news blackout on everything that is now pissing me off.

I want to get radgee about it but for what.
Yet I find myself at boiling point not knowing ffs.

Wish I didn't give a f***
Ashley please just f*** off

Offline Sean

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15355 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 09:24:55 pm »
The takeover is truly our only hope then.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears?

I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man  :lol:

Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up?

Surely at this stage we can discount Mike Ashley PR conspiracies? It seems like the only question here is whether the takeover goes through or not. I'd be far more inclined to believe this was a publicity stunt from BZG. There are far more signs pointing to this than there is it being an Ashley cuntcoction.

It would make less sense for him to not offer Rafa anything, proof of funds or not.

If this is the case, then you'd think Ashley would have come out and said so - unless it's nice and convenient for him to have these stories floating around?

Anyway, for all we know the buyers may be for real, but Ashley leaked the interest to the press when he did. We don't really know anything concrete in regards to this wholly predictable affair this mooted takeover has become.
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Offline Thumbheed

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15356 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 09:49:05 pm »
The takeover is truly our only hope then.

Does nobody find it even slightly strange that as Rafa was refusing to sign the contract, a few days later this takeover gossip suddenly appears?

I know lots will say its a conspiracy. Ashley has been trying his best to sell us for the best part of 10 years. Nobody has matched his value or if they did they didn't have the cash. Come on man  :lol:

Look at the bigger picture. Ashley has known about this 'takeover' since before April 17th (proof of funds supposedly sent), probably long before then, so why bother pretending to try to sign Rafa up?

Surely at this stage we can discount Mike Ashley PR conspiracies? It seems like the only question here is whether the takeover goes through or not. I'd be far more inclined to believe this was a publicity stunt from BZG. There are far more signs pointing to this than there is it being an Ashley cuntcoction.

It would make less sense for him to not offer Rafa anything, proof of funds or not.

If this is the case, then you'd think Ashley would have come out and said so - unless it's nice and convenient for him to have these stories floating around?

Anyway, for all we know the buyers may be for real, but Ashley leaked the interest to the press when he did. We don't really know anything concrete in regards to this wholly predictable affair this mooted takeover has become.

If it becomes apparent that that's the case, I imagine he will, much like he did with Stavely and Kenyon. For what it's worth I don't believe it is a publicity stunt but of all the conspiracies that are out there, this ones the most plausible.

The only consistency under Ashley's tenure has been that he does not give a single f*** about the fans; leaked stories to undermine detractors, yes. An orchestrated fake takeover including direct statements  from the supposed buyer and many sources citing progress to some degrees so that he can mug Rafa off; I very much doubt it.

My take was that the leak came from BZG and the follow up statements would back that view up. At a guess, I'd say it was to ward off other buyers by giving off the impression they're far further along than they actually are.

Offline Thumbheed

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15357 on: Wednesday 12 June 2019, 09:51:14 pm »
It's this total news blackout on everything that is now pissing me off.

I want to get radgee about it but for what.
Yet I find myself at boiling point not knowing ffs.

Wish I didn't give a f***

There's not even a grey area with this situation, it's all or nothing.


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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15358 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 12:53:48 pm »
If Rafa leaves is he free to discuss his reasons for not signing a new contract?  I’d guess so as his current contract is over and they’re not negotiating terminating a contract. 

Offline Mikky

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15359 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 12:56:00 pm »
If Rafa leaves is he free to discuss his reasons for not signing a new contract?  I’d guess so as his current contract is over and they’re not negotiating terminating a contract. 

The only thing I am clinging onto is Rafa has been told something is afoot with respect to a takeover - hence the silence

Although I suspect this will probably go the same way as Shearer

Offline James

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15360 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 01:03:16 pm »
If Rafa leaves is he free to discuss his reasons for not signing a new contract?  I’d guess so as his current contract is over and they’re not negotiating terminating a contract.

When I left my last job I received a letter reminding me that I signed up to maintain confidentiality even after departure. There will only be so much he’ll be allowed to legally say
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Offline STM

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« Reply #15361 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 01:05:49 pm »
If Rafa leaves is he free to discuss his reasons for not signing a new contract?  I’d guess so as his current contract is over and they’re not negotiating terminating a contract.

When I left my last job I received a letter reminding me that I signed up to maintain confidentiality even after departure. There will only be so much he’ll be allowed to legally say

Especially after Keegan.

Rafa would let us know though, through one channel or another.
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Offline chopey

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« Reply #15362 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 01:29:08 pm »
So Rafa has turned the contract down and he leaves 30th June and even if we get new owners they want their own man
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Offline LV

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15363 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 01:32:06 pm »
So Rafa has turned the contract down and he leaves 30th June and even if we get new owners they want their own man

There’s no evidence for any of that though is there? Just paper talk and conjecture?

Not trying to be arsey, I’m just desperate for this takeover to happen and for Rafa to stay

Offline chopey

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15364 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 02:10:20 pm »
Has anyone asked Rafa for a progress report ? I'm sure his staff will need jobs in the future.
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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15365 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 02:47:19 pm »
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Offline dtd

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15366 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 02:53:15 pm »
£22M

That would have been 1/3 of our transfer budget. No chance.

Offline covmag

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« Reply #15367 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 02:55:32 pm »
And this is how it will go.

Around 60 days till kick off.

Not sure about Rafa
Not sure about new owners.

It’s as if it’s all a ploy  :whistle:
Ashley please just f*** off

Offline Ian W

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15368 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 04:53:33 pm »
Don’t really thing it’s a ploy, it’s just negligence and bad management.

Offline Yorkie

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15369 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 05:13:51 pm »
He would already have at least one or two signings in the bag if he had things his way, so the longer everything remains unresolved, the more our preparations for next season are inhibited and the more annoyed he'll be.

Offline geordiedean

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« Reply #15370 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 05:47:49 pm »
He would already have at least one or two signings in the bag if he had things his way, so the longer everything remains unresolved, the more our preparations for next season are inhibited and the more annoyed he'll be.

57 days until window closes and we dont even have a clue if we will have a new owner new manager or any new players

This club is the biggest f***ing shambles in the league by a country mile
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

Offline gdm

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15371 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 06:18:05 pm »
If Rafa was staying (under Ashley) he’d have signed by now. He never takes a holiday and wanted players in early.

He’s holding out for a takeover like the rest of us.

Offline Gallowgate End

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« Reply #15372 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 06:18:40 pm »
He would already have at least one or two signings in the bag if he had things his way, so the longer everything remains unresolved, the more our preparations for next season are inhibited and the more annoyed he'll be.

Yep.

Being made to play catch up yet again.

Honestly can’t see him staying now well done Mike :clap:

Offline dtd

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #15373 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 06:21:33 pm »
Aye, if no takeover is confirmed by the end of June, he ain't signing s***.

Offline Tribesman

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« Reply #15374 on: Thursday 13 June 2019, 06:28:40 pm »
He would already have at least one or two signings in the bag if he had things his way, so the longer everything remains unresolved, the more our preparations for next season are inhibited and the more annoyed he'll be.

Villa are showing exactly how Benitez wanted to prepare Newcastle for a new season.