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Offline Fenham Mag

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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1950 on: Friday 7 December 2018, 01:00:02 pm »
Murphy will prove he is PL quality given a few years.

I'm quite excited to see how he develops.
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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1951 on: Friday 7 December 2018, 06:34:52 pm »
:lol: players can't just be a bit s*** these days. They have to either be Premier League quality or be not good enough an arbitrary league several echelons below where they'd quite blatantly be the best player in the division by light years.

League 1 is the current favourite, a division where the likes of Ivan Toney and Marcus Maddison are pissing it but 12m Jacob Murphy who was class in the Championship would struggle.
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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1952 on: Friday 7 December 2018, 08:07:42 pm »
Jacob Reese Murphy

Offline AsprillasShinPad

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« Reply #1953 on: Friday 7 December 2018, 09:27:19 pm »
Now the m*ckems are in league 1, it's the new go to term for a player who is s***.

Murphy is s***, ergo League 1 standard.

Rock solid logic.

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« Reply #1954 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 03:15:20 am »
I like him, and I think he needs a run in the side. He's always needed an extended run in the side. Seems to me like a confidence player.
League 1 standard.  Up there with some of the worst s**** ever posted on this forum.

He's got talent but clearly he needs more games and more belief in himself.

Bang on from both. If he were to play every game from now on I reckon in time he would give us more going forward than Ritchie would and has or rather hasnt. He has certain attributes we would benefit much more from in attack, the team in general and certain individuals.

But Rafa obviously values what Ritchie guarantees every game off the ball tactically and defensively more than anything else, things Rafa doesn’t need to keep at him to extract or work on him to get out of, which he will have to do with Murphy at this stage.

I can see the dilemma he faces, especially as that side of Ritchie’s game does help us a great deal off the ball, but it’s something Rafa prioritises over on the ball and attacking stuff which Ritchie is capable of on his day, but those days are few and far between.

I honestly feel Murphy has more to his game on the ball than Ritchie does, but we aren’t going to see that all too often if he’s coming on off the bench or gets a start here and there.

Off it, he can do what Ritchie does in time with the help of Rafa, but even then the priority should be what he can do going forward and the more he does and the better he does the less he will be required or depended on off the ball defensively.

We will only find out if he gets a run in the team and again I think he’s the one player we have who doesn’t start many games worth giving a try. I fear that will only happen due to an injury to Ritchie, however.

You can’t just write him off though and put him down as a League One player, not when he hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do which he can only do with a run of games. It’s unfair to expect he does something great or plays a blinder coming off the bench or when he gets a rare start, least of all write him off when that doesn’t materialise unsurprisingly.

Let’s be honest, even some of those that start every game haven’t exactly showed any class or are performing well going forward, not our attacking players away. If the best thing you can say about Ritchie after a game is how hard he works, how much he does off the ball, and how passionate he is, then Murphy just needs to match that.

Nah, sorry but we need a bit more on the ball and in that respect I’d wager Murphy over Ritchie would score more, create more, be more of an outlet and more of a general threat to the opposition if he had the kind of run in the side he has had.
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Offline AsprillasShinPad

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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1955 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 12:31:16 pm »
Ritchies been crap this season too. I would be tempted to forget about wingers all together and pack the centre of midfield.

Offline joeyt

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« Reply #1956 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 12:37:48 pm »
Aye that will really help Rondon

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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1957 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 09:07:01 pm »
Needs to play and be told to go and express himself and enjoy it and not worry as he;ll be playing the next few games as well with no fear of being dropped.

Needs to be praised and boosted by his manager and he'll gain confidence and prove he's a decent player with a lot of pace.

Offline Pilko

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« Reply #1958 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 09:25:54 pm »
Ritchies been crap this season too. I would be tempted to forget about wingers all together and pack the centre of midfield.

:lol: making a late concerted play for forum divvy of the year I see.
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Offline Tiotes Witch Doctor

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« Reply #1959 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:46:30 pm »
Don't rate him but hes been managed awfully by Rafa IMO, the rare times he does contribute something like a goal or assist hes almost always immediately dropped, how will he ever progress? If there is more in there we'll never see it unless we have a huge injury crisis.

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« Reply #1960 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:48:30 pm »
I think once he starts performing over 90 mins he will earn more starts.

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« Reply #1961 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:50:19 pm »
Do feel for him a bit today, like. Can't understand his exclusion.

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #1962 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:53:04 pm »
Don't rate him but hes been managed awfully by Rafa IMO, the rare times he does contribute something like a goal or assist hes almost always immediately dropped, how will he ever progress? If there is more in there we'll never see it unless we have a huge injury crisis.

This.  I don't think rafa is good with young players tbh.

Offline Kid Icarus

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« Reply #1963 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:53:25 pm »
Quite possible that Rafa's just rotating and told him he'll be needed in another match rather than him being flat out dropped.
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Offline Gallowgate Toon

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« Reply #1964 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:55:39 pm »
There appears to be no plan for him - it's really disappointing.

He was the only midfielder to provide any cutting edge on Wednesday and is then completely dropped. Yes, he didn't light it up over the course of the game and was poor in the second half, but I'd rather have a midfielder that can provide a bit of quality once or twice in a game as opposed to Atsu who, while he looks neat in spurts, rarely does anything productive.

Offline morla84

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« Reply #1965 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:55:44 pm »
Harsh on the boy imo

Offline Pilko

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« Reply #1966 on: Wednesday 2 January 2019, 07:16:08 pm »
This lad must be s**** in training like. Can't even make the bench these days.
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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1967 on: Wednesday 2 January 2019, 07:17:29 pm »
I think once he starts performing over 90 mins he will earn more starts.
Bit of a contradiction there like?
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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1968 on: Wednesday 2 January 2019, 07:19:52 pm »
Losing his place in our Tryhard XI is the death knell for him like.

Offline TRon

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« Reply #1969 on: Wednesday 2 January 2019, 07:35:26 pm »
I think once he starts performing over 90 mins he will earn more starts.
Bit of a contradiction there like?

When he has started, he hasn't made much impact is another way of putting it if that's any clearer.

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« Reply #1970 on: Wednesday 2 January 2019, 07:37:04 pm »
I've never rated him but he must be s*** in training; he did well in his last start. Total misfire this one, like.

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Re: Jacob Murphy
« Reply #1971 on: Thursday 3 January 2019, 08:43:25 am »
Bet he's buzzing for his 65 minutes against Blackburn.
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Offline Tiotes Witch Doctor

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« Reply #1972 on: Thursday 3 January 2019, 09:40:10 pm »
Tricky one really, I don't rate him at the moment, but you could say being dropped every time he contributes something is hampering his development and confidence, which surely is a no no for a young player, he isn't being managed well at the end of the day, I know its hard for some to hear but I don't see how anyone could see otherwise.

Offline xLiaaamx

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« Reply #1973 on: Thursday 3 January 2019, 09:41:56 pm »
He was playing really well this time last year, then was just dropped down to 4th choice for no apparent reason, didn't even have a bad game. Hasn't looked the same since.

Obviously Kenedy and Ritchie played well, but he wasn't even allowed on the bench most of the time.

Offline joeyt

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« Reply #1974 on: Thursday 3 January 2019, 09:46:41 pm »
That last sentence isn't true, he was on the bench most of the time last season.

This season has been different like