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Offline Skeletor

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #225 on: Sunday 24 September 2017, 06:32:12 PM »
Merkel already talking about listening to AfD voters. Think she'll have to backslide massively on her refugee policy.
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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #226 on: Sunday 24 September 2017, 06:39:18 PM »
Merkel's 33% of the vote is the worst performance of her four election victories.

That's always going to happen when an incumbent has been around for so long.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #227 on: Sunday 24 September 2017, 10:12:18 PM »
Merkel already talking about listening to AfD voters. Think she'll have to backslide massively on her refugee policy.
Isn't that already underway ? Harder to enter Germany and more deportations etc
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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #228 on: Sunday 24 September 2017, 10:19:28 PM »
First time since WW2 a far-right party will be sitting in the Bundestag.
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #229 on: Saturday 11 November 2017, 10:25:22 PM »
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/poland-independence-day-march-warsaw-far-right-fascists-a8050181.html

They really can't make their minds up if they love jews because of Israel's treatment of Palestine, or hate them just because. 

But anyway, not good, although clearly dwarfed by Labour's antisemitism problems. 
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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #230 on: Saturday 11 November 2017, 10:59:42 PM »
First time since WW2 a far-right party will be sitting in the Bundestag.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #231 on: Saturday 11 November 2017, 11:54:24 PM »
Just an observation like, but it does seem like all these countries where they banned Holocaust denial hasn't quite worked out very well.  I can't mind them all, but I know France (I think so, right?), Germany and Austria, possibly a few more?  Perhaps the position that paints people into makes them more defensive about their beliefs rather than allowing thoughts and beliefs to mature without restriction.  :dontknow:
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #232 on: Sunday 12 November 2017, 11:38:27 AM »
Good observation, I think it's probably true. Same with most things, banning them adds an appeal. I wonder where they think "the Jews" are in power, and what constitutes "the Jews"; is it radical orthodoxy, zionists, merchants, usurers, combination of all? I like to think it's radical orthodoxy in their minds, somewhere behind some curtain there is a bunch of shadowy shtreimel-clad figures pulling the strings. You usually see this misattributed Voltaire quote at these times "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

I wonder if another fuel for this particular fire is they look westward, especially to Germany, and don't like what they see and are worried it's creeping towards them. No terrorism in Poland.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #233 on: Monday 4 December 2017, 02:33:27 PM »
Extended statistical results of the Norwegian election are in. 84% of the people who voted for our far right party have no form of higher education. People voting for left wing parties do.

Not really news, but does back up the fact the far right are uneducated narrow minded f***s.
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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #234 on: Monday 4 December 2017, 02:41:35 PM »
Extended statistical results of the Norwegian election are in. 84% of the people who boted for our far right party have no form of higher education. People voting for left wing parties do.

Not really news, but does back up the fact the far right are uneducated narrow minded f***s.
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Offline Vivian Darkbloom

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #235 on: Tuesday 5 December 2017, 11:55:17 PM »
Extended statistical results of the Norwegian election are in. 84% of the people who voted for our far right party have no form of higher education. People voting for left wing parties do.

Not really news, but does back up the fact the far right are uneducated narrow minded f***s.

Riff-raff been voting for the wrong party, eh? Who the hell decided to let the plumbers and joiners vote?

This is the condescending attitude that defines modern leftism.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #236 on: Wednesday 6 December 2017, 12:07:57 AM »
You need an education to be a plumber in Norway. 4,5 years. Start wage is approx £45k a year in a proper company.

Add a year and you can be a certified underwater plumber as well. Throw £30k extra at your annual wage.
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Offline Vivian Darkbloom

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #237 on: Wednesday 6 December 2017, 12:14:08 AM »
It's neither here nor there. I could've said shop assistant. The point is socialism puts itself in the corner of the little man, and yet if they vote the wrong way, middle class Guardian readers look down on them with the same derision Maggie would have. It's the rotten hypocrisy that I don't like.




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You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

Offline Klaus

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #239 on: Monday 11 December 2017, 10:50:23 PM »
ITV is quite interesting right now, far right rallies etc. Mostly based in the US but still.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #242 on: Thursday 14 June 2018, 01:26:47 PM »
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Hungary is definitely going in a dodgy direction.  I'd love to know what the EU is going to do about.  Sincerely, not a Brexit-related jibe. 
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #243 on: Sunday 7 July 2019, 09:30:10 PM »
Greek Tories back in power.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #245 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 01:54:25 AM »
New coalition in Italy. Conte stays on as PM, Salvini out.

Offline Varadi

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #246 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 10:30:44 AM »
Salvini f***ed up badly, over-reaching when he thought he was in a position of strength but only succeeded in uniting his opponents against him.

Be very nice if something similar was to happen to a right-wing leader in the UK...

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #247 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 11:49:08 AM »
Unfortunately we've made out the Left are the Nazis come again, so we're f***ed.  We totally lack the sense of our european neighbours in just about every regard.  Been the case for centuries, will be for years to come.  We must be different, unique, GREAT, that's all that drives us.  Well, those that control us.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #248 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 01:54:36 PM »
Extended statistical results of the Norwegian election are in. 84% of the people who voted for our far right party have no form of higher education. People voting for left wing parties do.

Not really news, but does back up the fact the far right are uneducated narrow minded f***s.

Riff-raff been voting for the wrong party, eh? Who the hell decided to let the plumbers and joiners vote?

This is the condescending attitude that defines modern leftism.
Plumbers and joiners have educations, do they not?
Right-wing politics are rich man's politics, working-class people who've fallen for that scam are victims too.

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Re: European Elections and the Rise of the (far) Right
« Reply #249 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 01:57:23 PM »
Unfortunately we've made out the Left are the Nazis come again, so we're f***ed.  We totally lack the sense of our european neighbours in just about every regard.  Been the case for centuries, will be for years to come.  We must be different, unique, GREAT, that's all that drives us.  Well, those that control us.
We'll never get real change until we sort out the influence the right-wing, establishment press has, to be fair.
And it is the 'press'. The TV companies - even Sky - seem benign in comparison.