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Offline Kid Icarus

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« Reply #1450 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 02:43:45 pm »
:lol: Is that satire?
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« Reply #1451 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 02:47:20 pm »
it should be banned because it's a garbage song tbh

Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #1452 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 02:48:34 pm »
Indeed. 
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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« Reply #1453 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 02:57:55 pm »
:lol: Is that satire?

No. Take away the obvious roofie rape reference.  Then imagine you behave like that on a date, and the next morning the police arrest you for (I should have said) attempted rape. You see nothing wrong in your behaviour and you give your evidence which correlates with the lyrics of the song.

You going down.


Offline Kid Icarus

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« Reply #1454 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 03:33:40 pm »
I'm just laughing at the idea of someone being inspired specifically by that song to date rape and its banning stopping that happening. Obviously not because the subject matter's funny, but because the circumstances are absurd.
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« Reply #1455 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 03:37:47 pm »
I'm just laughing at the idea of someone being inspired specifically by that song to date rape and its banning stopping that happening. Obviously not because the subject matter's funny, but because the circumstances are absurd.

Then you've misunderstood. I'm saying quite the opposite, that maybe one person has heard the song, and realised that his plan for the evening might not be as foolproof as he first thought.

Offline Kid Icarus

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« Reply #1456 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 03:44:42 pm »
'If the debate prevents one young, misguided fella from putting himself in a position where he could be convicted of rape, it has all been worth it.' seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Offline mrmojorisin75

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« Reply #1457 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 03:45:10 pm »
i'd never heard that song before today, thank f***
So raise your fists and march around
Dont dare take what you need
I'll jail and bury those committed
And smother the rest in greed
Crawl with me into tomorrow
Or i'll drag you to your grave
I'm deep inside your children
They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

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« Reply #1458 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 03:51:39 pm »
'If the debate prevents one young, misguided fella from putting himself in a position where he could be convicted of rape, it has all been worth it.' seems pretty straightforward to me.

"If a guy goes out and rapes" would be straightforward.

Also, I thought I was quite clear that I was speaking of the debate, surrounding the song.
And what does prevent mean?

Offline Kid Icarus

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« Reply #1459 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 04:10:23 pm »
Either way it's funny. I don't have the energy to carry on. :lol:
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Offline Ian W

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« Reply #1460 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 04:15:48 pm »
I haven't watched that video above but the original song is really sleazy :lol:

You could find a load of things from the last few decades that are unacceptable today TBF.

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« Reply #1461 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 04:21:40 pm »
I haven't watched that video above but the original song is really sleazy :lol:

You could find a load of things from the last few decades that are unacceptable today TBF.

I find it fascinating that it was never considered as sleazy in the first place. The attitudes back then must have been f***ing weird. We could be 60-70 years ahead of where we are now, if somebody had just said "Hang on?" all those years ago. They probably did, but were ridiculed.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #1462 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 04:28:33 pm »
Everything was from the perspective of men's needs I guess, and women were much more to be used. Films and TV from that era are full of that stuff too.

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« Reply #1463 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 08:19:08 pm »
Everything was from the perspective of men's needs I guess, and women were much more to be used. Films and TV from that era are full of that stuff too.

Really? I never knew this, you've opened my eyes. What have I been missing all these years?

Where do you recommend I start? So many to choose from. 'Some Like it Hot' sounds risqué.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #1464 on: Saturday 8 December 2018, 11:39:45 pm »
Man you are weird sometimes.

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« Reply #1465 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 12:20:42 am »
:) As you were.

Offline QuakesMag

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« Reply #1466 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 12:45:15 am »
Man you are weird sometimes.

Sometimes?

This might well be your first post that I 100% understood :lol:
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Offline newsted

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« Reply #1467 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 01:31:09 am »
Man you are weird sometimes.

Sometimes?

This might well be your first post that I 100% understood :lol:

I'm not that cryptic, man. Scrolling through page after page of "what is zero??" with you and @Troll and spinning pencils did my f***ing head in. f*** philosophy. :lol: I went straight past most of it. Soz, I'm sure you put a lot of thought into it, but I'm not gonna read that. Life's too short. :thup:
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Offline QuakesMag

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« Reply #1468 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 01:47:27 am »
Man you are weird sometimes.

Sometimes?

This might well be your first post that I 100% understood :lol:

I'm not that cryptic, man. Scrolling through page after page of "what is zero??" with you and @Troll and spinning pencils did my f***ing head in. f*** philosophy. :lol: I went straight past most of it. Soz, I'm sure you put a lot of thought into it, but I'm not gonna read that. Life's too short. :thup:

:lol:

I don't know, it's just like reading Jack Kerouac's notes or something.
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Offline newsted

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« Reply #1469 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 01:54:58 am »
Man you are weird sometimes.

Sometimes?

This might well be your first post that I 100% understood :lol:

I'm not that cryptic, man. Scrolling through page after page of "what is zero??" with you and @Troll and spinning pencils did my f***ing head in. f*** philosophy. :lol: I went straight past most of it. Soz, I'm sure you put a lot of thought into it, but I'm not gonna read that. Life's too short. :thup:

:lol:

I don't know, it's just like reading Jack Kerouac's notes or something.

:lol: You f***ing pansy artists.
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« Reply #1470 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 02:57:58 am »
Is Kelis' Milkshake clearly wrong?

Yes.

It’s not. Women can do whatever they want and if you think differently it’s because you’re a vital cog in the patriarchy.

Only men are to blame for all the worlds problems, including writing these awful “rape anthems” like baby it’s cold outside.

Oh and Fairytale of New York was in the firing line too, but it’s been allowed to remain on the airwaves because it was in fact Kirsty McCall who used the word faggot
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« Reply #1471 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:48:48 am »
Is Kelis' Milkshake clearly wrong?

Yes.

It’s not. Women can do whatever they want and if you think differently it’s because you’re a vital cog in the patriarchy.

Only men are to blame for all the worlds problems, including writing these awful “rape anthems” like baby it’s cold outside.

Oh and Fairytale of New York was in the firing line too, but it’s been allowed to remain on the airwaves because it was in fact Kirsty McCall who used the word faggot

If Martin Solveig had wolf whistled old wasserface, in the street, and was honest and gave his reason as "She so sexy! in dem little PVC hotpants, wid the bumcheeks hangin' out, Man Tell me that ain't sexy" He'd be pilloried, and rightly so. Because why should what a woman chooses to wear make her subject to abuse based on somebody's perception of what is sexy?

Just sayin'. Because from my perspective there is f*** all sexy about the twerk. But I do like a nice pair of PVC hotpants.

Offline B-more Mag

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« Reply #1472 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 03:53:36 am »
Great. Now this done gone and made me remember this exists:



You f***ing monsters.

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« Reply #1473 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 05:33:29 am »
Great. Now this done gone and made me remember this exists:



You f***ing monsters.

#MeToo
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« Reply #1474 on: Sunday 9 December 2018, 08:48:47 am »
Fuckin ell. Is it just me or is this nothing more than a bunch of sycophants, fawning over a paedo?

Posted it after about 10 mins in. They do go on to question his ways, but rather suspiciously, having suggested that accusers are simply projecting modern values onto a different time, they focus on his relationship with the teenage sister. At a time that the age of consent was 12.

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