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What do you think will be the outcome of the General Election?

Conservatives win increased majority
28 (26.7%)
Conservatives retain small majority
59 (56.2%)
Hung parliament
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Offline BlufPurdi

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UK Politics: The Tory Years - 2015-17
« on: Monday 20 July 2015, 02:59:40 PM »
Old thread can be found in Hall of Fame:

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,70147.24975.html

I'll fling new polls up every now and again. 


Poll #1:  Labour Leadership [August 2015]

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Poll #2:  Presuming Corbyn wins the leadership, what will Labour do? [September 2015]

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Poll #3:  War Games [November 2015]

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Poll #4:  Next Conservative Leader [December 2015]

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Poll #5:  Should Britain retain a nuclear deterrent? [July 2016]

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Poll #6:  Labour Leadership (Part 2) [July 2016]

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Poll #7:  Scottish Independence (Part 2) - Do you want Scotland to leave the UK [April 2017]

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Poll #8:  Who will you vote for in the General Election? [May/June 2017]

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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
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That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline ilikenewcastle

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:07:24 PM »
I'll be voting Burnham-Corbyn-Copper-Kendall (probably).
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:12:48 PM »
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Ian W

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:12:51 PM »
I honestly don't think any of them are that great, but I would take a year or two of Corbyn to see what happens. Even if the right-wing media hammer him, they'll have to mention him and his policies while doing it.
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:14:12 PM »
Hopefully it would be long enough to split the party and get the New Labourers to f***. 
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Northerngimp

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:14:46 PM »
Tories taking us back in time.
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Offline Ian W

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:15:21 PM »
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:12:48 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/even-the-liberal-democrats-are-voting-against-george-osbornes-benefit-cuts-10401768.html

If they vote in line with these changes I'd find it hard to endorse them ever again.

I can't for the life of me understand why Harman isn't going to town on these cuts. Labour have just been suckered by this fear of being seen as too soft on the economy. A triumph for Conservative thinking.
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Offline Klaus

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 03:17:22 PM »
The fact that I can see at least another decade of Tory rule, makes me f***ing sick.
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Offline TheGuv

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:48:38 PM »
It's going to be an awful 10 years or so like
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Offline Pip

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:52:03 PM »
Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight.
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Offline Disco

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:54:24 PM »
Because having a relatively small amount of extra quid in your pocket isn't the be all and end all for some.

As was on the last thread, from the latest budget I'll get an extra <£10 per month from it. Give it to someone who needs it, I don't.
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Offline Pip

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:56:10 PM »
Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas.
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Pip on Monday 20 July 2015, 04:52:03 PM
Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight.

:nope:

You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live.  They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises.  Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it.
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Troll

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #13 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:59:22 PM »
Quote from: Pip on Monday 20 July 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas.

I'm sure that'll be of great comfort to all the families who can't afford to pay their bills since the last budget.
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Offline Jimburst

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 04:59:29 PM »
Quote from: Pip on Monday 20 July 2015, 04:56:10 PM
Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas.

Is that why rich c***s tend to be so generous?
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Offline Pip

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:01:29 PM »
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Monday 20 July 2015, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: Pip on Monday 20 July 2015, 04:52:03 PM
Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight.

:nope:

You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live.  They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises.  Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it.
Yeah, that was the wrong decision. Even the Economist has said so.

It doesn't mean that the economy isn't gradually improving.
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Offline Ian W

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:03:15 PM »
'The economy' is such a vague concept though. Is the money going into the pockets of the people who need it?
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:07:50 PM »
An economy 'doing well' can still leave people behind, and that's the argument against the Tories.  Personally never believed they wouldn't get the economy growing again, but there are far too many casualties for it to be acceptable.  And just because it is doing well doesn't mean every single approach taken by the government is endorsed by this fact.
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline GeordieMessiah

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #18 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:26:07 PM »


BTW Bluf. Not impressed. :huff:
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Whether it's God or the bomb
It's just the same
It's only fear under another name
And the corporate snakes coming in to feed
On that pathetic fact known as human greed
Skin and bone being raked over those hot coals
This dump never seems to give time for human soul

Offline Ian W

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #19 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:27:48 PM »
We need better headline measures of success in a country than stuff like GDP and economic growth figures.

Child poverty, number of people on below-living wage, happiness surveys, social mobility measures, percentage of income spent on essentials, etc.
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #20 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 05:35:03 PM »
Quote from: GeordieMessiah on Monday 20 July 2015, 05:26:07 PM


BTW Bluf. Not impressed. :huff:

I waited an ample amount of time. :lol:

What a day, I'm just a dick to everyone. :lol: :undecided:
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline GeordieMessiah

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #21 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 06:12:44 PM »
18 minutes = "an ample amount of time". :lol:

Dick. :lol:
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It's just the same
It's only fear under another name
And the corporate snakes coming in to feed
On that pathetic fact known as human greed
Skin and bone being raked over those hot coals
This dump never seems to give time for human soul

Offline Toondave

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #22 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 07:35:18 PM »
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Offline colinmk

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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #23 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 07:37:22 PM »
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Re: UK Politics - The Tory Years - Theresa May is new Prime Minister
« Reply #24 on: Monday 20 July 2015, 07:49:20 PM »
Quote from: Toondave on Monday 20 July 2015, 07:35:18 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11747266/Why-the-spiteful-and-stupid-foxhunting-ban-must-be-reversed.html

Thoughts?
It's a crock of s***?

Lost all credibility immediately with 'i may have hunted as a child but I just can't remember', went on to ludicrously claim that some of the hunters might just be working class poverty line schmos (with the means to buy and keep a horse), goes on to further argue that farmers can't possibly keep their livestock safe (build a better f***ing fence; if your infrastructure doesn't support your ambition properly then that's your fault), proceeds to suggest that there is no humane way to control foxes (protip: deer stalkers in Scotland are expert marksmen, not just locals with a 12-bore who like to kill stuff).

Also doesn't acknowledge that it's illegal to set snares and not check them daily, and I have seen any number of foxes which have died pitiful and lonely and horrific deaths trapped in snares which haven't been checked for months.  I haven't got a lot of time for farmers who cry hard up, alas.  The rest of us don't get away with flouting laws because to observe them would be expensive and/or inconvenient, so why should they?

Pathetic pro-hunting rich kid claptrap, in summary.
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