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Offline Ian W

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15475 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:50:45 pm »
Nice to see women’s football has finally reached acceptance.

Explain?

You lot talking about makeup and which one you fancy the most :lol:

You do realise it goes on in the men’s game also with roles reversed? :lol:

I take it back anyway, Alex Scott and Hope Solo are on my screen.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15476 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:51:10 pm »
If you watch the freeze frame all the players near or far away from the ball had their arms in the same position as the one it struck.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15477 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:51:51 pm »
I must’ve missed something but why do we need the nations league? Apart from money
I actually really like the idea of it, its another competition to win, and stops meaningless friendlies.
Its great for the smaller nations as well. Football isn't just for France, Spain, England, etc. Its great for the likes of Georgia, Gibraltar, Faroe Islands to have meaningful, winnable games

Why would the Faroe Islands benefit from this any more than another tournament?

Err, because they'll actually win some games obviously :lol:

Not in a million years. The only thing I can see some like benefits from is that the cash generated is organised centrally.
What are you actually arguing against here? You don't think its a good thing that smaller nations have something to aim for and a realistic chance of winning games? :lol:

Faroe Islands got 5 points in their group, Gibraltar got 6 in theirs, Georgia won their group
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Offline Ian W

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15478 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:52:18 pm »
The pen decision was completely wrong. I’m going to go mad next season with all the incorrect penalties.

Offline LFEE

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15479 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:53:25 pm »
The pen decision was completely wrong. I’m going to go mad next season with all the incorrect penalties.

Ditto. Handball is a mess.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15480 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:53:26 pm »
The pen decision was completely wrong. I’m going to go mad next season with all the incorrect penalties.


But but but, it’ll stop teams cheating.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15481 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:54:26 pm »
I must’ve missed something but why do we need the nations league? Apart from money
I actually really like the idea of it, its another competition to win, and stops meaningless friendlies.
Its great for the smaller nations as well. Football isn't just for France, Spain, England, etc. Its great for the likes of Georgia, Gibraltar, Faroe Islands to have meaningful, winnable games

Why would the Faroe Islands benefit from this any more than another tournament?

Err, because they'll actually win some games obviously :lol:

Not in a million years. The only thing I can see some like benefits from is that the cash generated is organised centrally.
Well they did beat Malta in there group. It give the smaller nations a competitive experience that they will actually have a chance in. It also means they'll have the possibility of qualification for the Euros. By playing in games they have chances in, it only increases the level of the players, allows for more money to go into infrastructure of the countries, which will only improve there level over time.

Offline Peder75

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15482 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 05:58:37 pm »
Nations League could have been a tournament like the League Cup where most teams field some kind of reserve team, but I would say it's more like the FA Cup. Most teams take it quite serious. You don't have many friendlies in club football, but instead several competitions and I think this is the right way to go. Friendlies are boring, and at least this tournament gives some excitement. At least for lesser nations.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15483 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 06:07:03 pm »
The pen decision was completely wrong. I’m going to go mad next season with all the incorrect penalties.


But but but, it’ll stop teams cheating.

@Shearergol You do realise Newcastle Utd will get more penalties and the opposition will get more sending offs against us next season than they have had in the last 6 years in the Premier League :lol:

Bring VAR on about time we get to watch us have some penalties and watch the opposition get sent off for once.


Offline Pata

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15484 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 08:32:00 pm »
Nations League is great. May seem pointless to to the bigger nations that always qualify but it's amazing for all the rest.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15485 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 08:41:40 pm »
The pen decision was completely wrong. I’m going to go mad next season with all the incorrect penalties.


But but but, it’ll stop teams cheating.

@Shearergol You do realise Newcastle Utd will get more penalties and the opposition will get more sending offs against us next season than they have had in the last 6 years in the Premier League :lol:

Bring VAR on about time we get to watch us have some penalties and watch the opposition get sent off for once.



Nope, that won’t happen. You realise it’s still a subjective decision half the time?

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15486 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 09:57:37 pm »
Big fan of the Nations League. Was certain we were going to win it but what are you going to do.

Never thought Ronaldo would win an international title but now he has two. Incredible career.

Offline Sho'Time

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15487 on: Sunday 9 June 2019, 09:59:48 pm »
Do you actually get a trophy for winning the NL? What even is the prize/point?


Offline Tomato Deuce

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15488 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 01:32:41 am »
From my understanding of VAR, the purpose was to correct clear and obvious errors. Lingard being a millimetre offside, according to a derived line dependent on the TV angle is not a clear and obvious error imo, especially given that it would be impossible for the naked human eye to detect. Are we even sure that the technique being used to discern these sorts of marginal offsides decisions is correct in the same way that goal line technology or the hawkeye system in tennis are? I do not see how it could be possible. In theory you would need a directly overhead angle and there is no fixed line or object to use as reference for offsides.

The NFL has had replay for decades it is still only used for egregious errors generally. Football has had VAR for two years or so and we are already reviewing at finer margins. I am not sure it makes sense.

:thup:

Offline Astroblack

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15489 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 05:08:46 am »
It has to be the proximity to the Champions League that stopped us from winning this thing.

In 2008 when Spain won the Euros, it was an all English final.
2010 when Spain won it was a German Italian final
2012 Spain won and it was a German english final
2014 all Spanish final and Spain got knocked out in the group stage

That’s my hypothesis.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15490 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 12:44:49 pm »
van Dijk and Wijnaldum seemed to manage fine.
Consider winning

Offline County Durham Mag

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15491 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 12:56:05 pm »
van Dijk and Wijnaldum seemed to manage fine.

They did but also them been better than anything we have in them positions helps

Man wijnaldum is so underrated, easily the best player all round we have had in the last 10 years

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15492 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 01:41:42 pm »
Hatem

Offline triggs

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15493 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 03:30:54 pm »
van Dijk and Wijnaldum seemed to manage fine.

They did but also them been better than anything we have in them positions helps

Man wijnaldum is so underrated, easily the best player all round we have had in the last 10 years
He was awful for half the season, Rafa dropped him for the important games near the end
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Offline Astroblack

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« Reply #15494 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 06:00:26 pm »
I've watched Wijnaldum in Liverpool's team for the past two years and still have no idea what he does.

He kind of just floats around. He seems to run away from the ball. He doesn't tackle. He barely touches the ball. He does pop up in the box any time they attack but he's far different from the player we had. There was a moment in the Barca game where he faked out three players and crowd went "oooohhhh" and I was thinking "that's the player we had". Yes he's winning things and all that but it's not the same Georginho Wijnaldum we had.

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15495 on: Monday 10 June 2019, 06:25:15 pm »
He keeps the ball so well and rarely gives it away. Can't think of much else, mind :lol:

Offline Ian W

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15496 on: Tuesday 11 June 2019, 12:59:22 am »
That’s what he does. Receives an easy pass and gives an easy pass. It’s alright I suppose.

Offline triggs

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15497 on: Tuesday 11 June 2019, 09:14:15 am »
I've watched Wijnaldum in Liverpool's team for the past two years and still have no idea what he does.

He kind of just floats around. He seems to run away from the ball. He doesn't tackle. He barely touches the ball. He does pop up in the box any time they attack but he's far different from the player we had. There was a moment in the Barca game where he faked out three players and crowd went "oooohhhh" and I was thinking "that's the player we had". Yes he's winning things and all that but it's not the same Georginho Wijnaldum we had.
What do you think he did for us? :lol: That's basically the exact same as we had
"Lots of young fellas runnin' around in shorts, that's the kind of think you like looking at, and I bet you like that too, only you're probably imagining what they'd look like without shorts, you're sitting there imagining that with a big smile on your face, ya dirty fecker"

Offline Doctor Zaius

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Re: The England Thread
« Reply #15498 on: Tuesday 11 June 2019, 09:53:40 am »
Wijnaldum is less effective in the team that doesnt have much of the ball. He was totally anonymous for us at times because we tried to hit teams on the break and didnt have a great deal of possesion. Having played for PSV and Feyenoord before us, its understandable that he didnt adapt well to playing for an inferior team against better opposition.