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Offline HTT

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Re: Jonjo Shelvey
« Reply #6725 on: Friday 27 December 2019, 07:13:54 AM »
2 games in 2 days is tough. You have to rotate.

f*** off man, they are meant to be professional athletes. It’s not like Shelvey exactly exerts his absolute all every game either, the opposite in fact. If he can’t physically and or mentally play 2 games in quick succession at the tempo he plays at when he does play, he may as well jack it now.

Premier League level football or not, players of a pro standard should be fit enough to play in quick succession especially the likes of Shelvey. A player who in particular, given his age, position and style of play, should be at the peak of fitness in order to suffer least at this time of year.

And let’s be honest, these games don’t exactly come around every other day or two every week do they. I’ve never bought the arguments that this time of year demands too much from players, elite or otherwise. It’s a convenient excuse for players and managers to use to drop out of games or blame poor results/performances on. And those managers/clubs that do, that’s why you have a squad of players.

There is no excuse full stop!
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Offline samptime29

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« Reply #6726 on: Friday 27 December 2019, 10:31:52 AM »
2 games in 2 days is tough. You have to rotate.

f*** off man, they are meant to be professional athletes. It’s not like Shelvey exactly exerts his absolute all every game either, the opposite in fact. If he can’t physically and or mentally play 2 games in quick succession at the tempo he plays at when he does play, he may as well jack it now.

Premier League level football or not, players of a pro standard should be fit enough to play in quick succession especially the likes of Shelvey. A player who in particular, given his age, position and style of play, should be at the peak of fitness in order to suffer least at this time of year.

And let’s be honest, these games don’t exactly come around every other day or two every week do they. I’ve never bought the arguments that this time of year demands too much from players, elite or otherwise. It’s a convenient excuse for players and managers to use to drop out of games or blame poor results/performances on. And those managers/clubs that do, that’s why you have a squad of players.

There is no excuse full stop!

What the f*** are you about? No team is going to be play the same starting 11 when they have another game 2 days later. You have to rotate the squad. That is a fact.


Offline jackyboy

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« Reply #6727 on: Friday 27 December 2019, 11:19:18 AM »
Different standards and different fitness levels I know but I used to play Saturday afternoon, Sunday morning and Sunday afternoon in 3 different leagues.  Fair bit of beer in between as well
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Offline Greg

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Re: Jonjo Shelvey
« Reply #6728 on: Friday 27 December 2019, 11:23:07 AM »
Different standards and different fitness levels I know but I used to play Saturday afternoon, Sunday morning and Sunday afternoon in 3 different leagues.  Fair bit of beer in between as well

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« Reply #6729 on: Friday 27 December 2019, 11:39:00 AM »
It's so frustrating we're still being forced into debating Shelvey's importance to the team. It became abundantly clear early last season that his time here was more-or-less up. He's obviously done well this season but he'll never be reliable and is fundamentally limited. Another symbol of the enforced ceiling.

He could've played in the Championship in his slippers and he had a cracking bit of form alongside Diame in the second half on 17-18, but that's when Rafa should have been given the budget to upgrade the CM substantially. Instead he was given f*** all to spend and we ended up with Ki; thankfully he was an excellent manager who was forced into ensuring our other options played beyond their capabilities every week. But Shelvey could rightly hardly get in the side. Again, this summer was time to upgrade. But nah, we're still banging on about how this flawed player MUST start.

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« Reply #6730 on: Sunday 29 December 2019, 11:10:29 AM »

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« Reply #6731 on: Sunday 29 December 2019, 11:50:01 PM »
Nice bit of coving for our lovely low ceiling, that would be.

Wouldn't even be being contemplated under Rafa.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #6732 on: Monday 30 December 2019, 12:02:01 AM »
When will these peak years be exactly?

Offline Aiston

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« Reply #6733 on: Monday 30 December 2019, 10:37:16 AM »
Could we just not give him a new contract. His 3 good games in a season is simply not worth a contract extension.

Offline Consortium of one

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« Reply #6734 on: Monday 30 December 2019, 02:28:11 PM »
I threw up in my mouth when I read that Shelvey was in line for a new deal.  I threw up on my desk when I read "peak years".
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« Reply #6735 on: Wednesday 1 January 2020, 06:36:14 PM »
We're really going to give this guy a new deal?! :lol:

This club is a joke. He is so wasteful with the ball and leaves us a man short defensively.

Was so irritating how people started getting excited about him because of a few goals. He is a liability.
I'll be watching the games, and I'll be talking about the teams. If it's a disaster it will be quite humorous and exactly what Mike Ashley deserves and to be honest I'll quite enjoy it. I am totally indifferent to results and the team success going forward.

Now, in certain games should the team do well, I will be happy more for the players, because I feel bad for them mostly, and I still want to see some of them do well. I will still feel comfortable giving the team credit when they do well. I just don't care about any outcome at this point and none of my money goes into anything to do with Mike Ashley's operations.

Offline TRon

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« Reply #6736 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 12:42:25 PM »
He'd do well to sign that contract while Bruce is still in a job. A half decent manager would probably be looking for a replacement. One that can run.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #6737 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 01:59:53 PM »
He'd do well to sign that contract while Bruce is still in a job. A half decent manager would probably be looking for a replacement. One that can run.

Not sure that would be allowed by the club.

Offline ManDoon

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« Reply #6738 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:02:45 PM »
You basically need to be a really good team set up to play to his strengths as we can’t carry anyone in this team and he’s awful off the ball.
:lol: I dunno. I'm starting to think it was us.
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« Reply #6739 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:29:52 PM »
i don't think such a team exists at the top level personally, he might get away with it in the champo but without rafa who knows
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Offline TRon

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« Reply #6740 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 02:33:00 PM »
He's technically our most gifted midfielder without a doubt. He would dominate most every match if the opposition would agree to play the game at walking pace.

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« Reply #6741 on: Thursday 2 January 2020, 04:42:05 PM »
Well, his partner is a middle distance runner impersonating a footballer so its a quite a combination.