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« Reply #4975 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:06:21 PM »
They're not as scary as they look, granted at first getting your head around how each of the 3 main values combine to expose the photo as you intend it can be a bit daunting. People take courses, read about it, watch videos, but honestly once you start just messing about with them and seeing how it effects the photo it becomes pretty self-evident. Plus there's nothing wrong with using automatic features, the purists would disagree...but cameras these days are very good at achieving focus and proper exposure themselves meaning you can concentrate on what's going on around you  :) I personally tend to take control of either aperture (how much is in focus/your depth of field) or shutter speed (how much you want to freeze motion) and have the camera calculate the others.
Aye. The whole way of using it doesn’t faint me.
What my point was that I’m not that very much into photography, I like looking at good quality pictures as the next person, however I don’t have the patience to go out taking photopraphs, in fact when I’m around people and they take needless photographs and pose for photo’s all the time it annoys me because I feel like I’m missing out on experiencing an event by documenting it instead.

My point was that in light of lack of interest it would be a massive waste of expenses for me to buy or even rent a camera of that quality as I would not use it to it’s best capabilities. However as someone who loves a great quality product that is refined and above the level of competitors, I would absolutely love to experience using one.

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« Reply #4976 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:15:33 PM »
[emoji38] so just a poser then

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« Reply #4977 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:17:35 PM »
I hear you Stiffler, for me it was a natural extension to doing graphic design, wanting to be able to collect the images I needed rather than relying on other sources so heavily and not getting full control. Then I became one of those weirdos like OC who walks around the street taking photos of people for a reason I still haven't put my finger on other than that it's kind of exhilarating. But yes, when out with friends/at events I almost never have a camera with me. I personally don't understand why people buy expensive cameras for that reason when we have phones perfectly suited for that kind of use. That's just me I guess...

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« Reply #4979 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:24:23 PM »
Yeah,  I never carry my stuff unless I'm purposefully out for pictures, like.

While we're on the subject, you know how much I approve of proper physical controls on a camera and I cannot deny that part of my reasoning for choosing the one i currently use is the way it looks. The spiral of shutter speeds, the more regular circle of ISOs, the secondary dials underneath those control wheels.. combined with a Samyang or 7artisans (or adapted oldschool) lens, it has that same sort of vintage feel.

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« Reply #4980 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:30:52 PM »
I used to feel that way about the Fuji X100 series but now there's no cameras as having Parkinson's even automatic anti-shake cams won't do it for me. But that Leica is the nuts.
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« Reply #4981 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:31:33 PM »
There's only two reasons for using manual exposure settings - you need the next exposure to be precisely the same as the last, or your variance control won't go as far as you want it to :)

Yeah, I like to go by the idea (not only in photography) that the pathway is to learn and understand as much as you can, meticulously, then free yourself from it - assured that the knowledge should you need it is there to back you up.

Yeah,  I never carry my stuff unless I'm purposefully out for pictures, like.

While we're on the subject, you know how much I approve of proper physical controls on a camera and I cannot deny that part of my reasoning for choosing the one i currently use is the way it looks. The spiral of shutter speeds, the more regular circle of ISOs, the secondary dials underneath those control wheels.. combined with a Samyang or 7artisans (or adapted oldschool) lens, it has that same sort of vintage feel.

And aye, it's hard to not fall into the old photography chiches about the camera getting out of your way etc, being in the moment blah blah, but the feeling physical controls are an essential as far as I'm concerned, it's a different feeling altogether composing a shot without having to go into the back screen at all.

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« Reply #4982 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:32:53 PM »
[emoji38] so just a poser then
Haha, not the first time I have been accused of that.

A poser has a name brand just to show it off. I like to experience well made products, appreciate great engineering and attention to detail. I also like it when things just work seamlessly and intuitively.

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« Reply #4983 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:33:39 PM »
I used to feel that way about the Fuji X100 series but now there's no cameras as having Parkinson's even automatic anti-shake cams won't do it for me. But that Leica is the nuts.
Always sad to read this man. Have you got no interest in long exposure work you could do with a tripod and a remote release, or is that not an option for you either?

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« Reply #4984 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:34:44 PM »
I used to feel that way about the Fuji X100 series but now there's no cameras as having Parkinson's even automatic anti-shake cams won't do it for me. But that Leica is the nuts.

Ah that's too bad man... I'll try enjoy the Leica doubly for ya :thup:

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« Reply #4985 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:37:11 PM »
[emoji38] so just a poser then
Haha, not the first time I have been accused of that.

A poser has a name brand just to show it off. I like to experience well made products, appreciate great engineering and attention to detail. I also like it when things just work seamlessly and intuitively.
:thup:

You wouldn't get that experience with a physical controls camera unless you knew what those controls did, but I guess that's your point precisely. I just find it entertaining that you're awed by the look of the thing and want to use it without the first idea about what makes it different from a £150 Panasonic :) I suspect your experience would be almost identical, or you might even prefer the consumer model.
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« Reply #4986 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:49:13 PM »
There's probably elements of a £150 Panasonic in that Leica tbf  :lol: They made the electrics for them.

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« Reply #4987 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 02:55:53 PM »
Yeah, I posted the other day (but subsequently removed because I wasn't 100%), I'm sure that for some of the Leica typ model cameras, there's a Panasonic branded equivalent with essentially the same hardware but different control and body design. Couldn't find any examples since Panasonic are mostly micro four thirds sensors, but I'm certain I remember reading about them (might have been the typ 116).

I suspect they're mostly for Asian markets rather than our own, though.

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« Reply #4988 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 03:06:33 PM »
Ah yes, you might mean the D-Lux one of their c.1 grand compacts, where I think the full build is handled in Japan.

https://www.apotelyt.com/compare-camera/leica-d-lux-typ-109-vs-panasonic-lx100

(funny init, how prior to ordering a Leica I didn't have the slightest clue or interest in where a camera was built  :lol: suckered in)

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« Reply #4989 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 03:26:05 PM »
Heh, aye :) it's like musical instruments, there's definitely a point at which the premium you're paying begins to be dominated by name rather than where it's put together,  engineering materials and tolerances, but I do think it makes a difference to the experience here (Sony's cameras made with Zeiss glass are definitely better than their non-Zeiss ones, for example - when I was considering a purchase like yours it was the RX1R I was looking at first and foremost). The skill is to identify at what point that comes, and for me it comes there, with the Qs and RX1s.

It's more noticeable in the medium format world really, I'm not convinced that the money people pay for Hasselblad backs and lenses (and that is stupid money) buys them an image over and above the cheaper (still silly money) manufacturers.
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« Reply #4990 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:03:15 PM »
I've got a s***-ton of stuff to throw in this thread from this year.

I'll just pop in this fun thing, for now. It's amazing hooked up to my new rig and surprisingly fantastic running on its own processor.



I'm already growing bored with it, though :lol:

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« Reply #4991 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:26:00 PM »
Got one of those a few weeks back.

Beat Saber is ace but the rest of the games as a solus unit? s****.

Half Life Alyx is tempting, mind.

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« Reply #4992 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:37:00 PM »
Yeh, from the PC opens up so much.

Although Vader is good direct from the headset and not massively better from the PC.

I bought a racing game to run from the PC. It looks stunning but it's solid to play with a controller :lol: Need a steering wheel but that's a rabbit hole I don't want to go down. Mad leaning out of a go-cart and leaning across to other drivers :lol:

It was an itch I needed to scratch and I was surprised at how easy it is to immerse myself. Gonna try that software (forget its name) that'll allow me to play RDR2.

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« Reply #4993 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:39:44 PM »
Tried VR grot?

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« Reply #4994 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:43:59 PM »
Tried VR grot?

I have a six-year old son permanently here.  Nee chance I’m risking that like.

Though I am intrigued.

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« Reply #4995 on: Saturday 23 May 2020, 09:46:01 PM »
WTF is that? :lol:

Feels like a search risk :shifty:

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« Reply #4996 on: Sunday 24 May 2020, 12:00:47 AM »
I've got a s***-ton of stuff to throw in this thread from this year.

I'll just pop in this fun thing, for now. It's amazing hooked up to my new rig and surprisingly fantastic running on its own processor.



I'm already growing bored with it, though :lol:

I want. But I don't want to spend money, and I think they're in high demand right now :(

grot = porn

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« Reply #4997 on: Sunday 24 May 2020, 12:09:20 AM »
WTF is that? :lol:

Feels like a search risk :shifty:

Grot is just grumble.

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« Reply #4998 on: Sunday 24 May 2020, 12:27:22 AM »
Ah! :lol:

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« Reply #4999 on: Sunday 24 May 2020, 10:30:51 AM »
I used to feel that way about the Fuji X100 series but now there's no cameras as having Parkinson's even automatic anti-shake cams won't do it for me. But that Leica is the nuts.
Always sad to read this man. Have you got no interest in long exposure work you could do with a tripod and a remote release, or is that not an option for you either?

I was only really interested in fast Jets and (some) street work. The former required precision with a 500mm lens. The latter would look a bit of a give away with a tripod. I still remain keen to see other peoples work and enjoy the commentary.
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