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Re: Ayoze Pérez
« Reply #6000 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 11:20:01 am »
Jeering him when he was subbed off was absolutely shameful. Really embarrassed by our support on Saturday.

yeah, but at least they supported the team and didnt get involved with the stupid 11 minute protest thing....oh wait.
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« Reply #6001 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 01:22:04 pm »
I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him??

I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count.

Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player.

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« Reply #6002 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 01:37:10 pm »
I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him??

i don't think he'd have been starting anymore had muto not been injured
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Offline Ian W

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Re: Ayoze Pérez
« Reply #6003 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 01:44:30 pm »
Wow, I completely forgot Muto existed.

Offline ElCid

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« Reply #6004 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 01:48:30 pm »
I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him??

i don't think he'd have been starting anymore had muto not been injured

Was he injured I'm sure Benitez said he was fit although I agree he probably would not have started but why was he not on the bench

Offline Karjala

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« Reply #6005 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 08:06:11 pm »
Perez still s****, always has been. Weak as p*ss.

Biggest weak link in our team.
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« Reply #6006 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 08:08:36 pm »
I like the term "Colbackistas" used by someone in this thread to describe the recent regulars who frequent this thread.

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« Reply #6007 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 11:05:11 pm »
I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him??

I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count.

Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player.

It’s an interesting dilemma - withdraw him and potentially devastate his shredded confidence, or play through it and absorb crowd hostility (as well as the impact on the team) until he finds form.

It’s also true that possibly his best attributes - the technique and vision to see those flicks and six-yard finishes - have deserted him with his form and confidence.
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Offline AsprillasShinPad

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« Reply #6008 on: Tuesday 4 December 2018, 07:27:20 pm »
Wow, I completely forgot Muto existed.

Which is a real shame, because Muto looks decent.  How the f*** Perez is keeping anyone out of the team is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of today.

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« Reply #6009 on: Tuesday 4 December 2018, 07:30:21 pm »
a hate him so much

Offline Ridman

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« Reply #6010 on: Tuesday 4 December 2018, 09:15:11 pm »
Perez still s****, always has been. Weak as p*ss.

Biggest weak link in our team.

Absolutely criminal we didn't invest in better full-backs and a new 10 this summer, we'd be a much better and balanced side. Perez has 1 goal and one assist in 14 games so far and contributes very little otherwise. Can't hurt to give Muto a chance for a few games.

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« Reply #6011 on: Tuesday 4 December 2018, 09:54:18 pm »
I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him??

I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count.

Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player.

He definitely needs dropping for a few games, it's not like he cost us a fortune and we need a return on the fee.   He's beyond s*** and playing anyone else would be preferable.  Maybe he needs a bit of focused coaching to get him to stay on his feet and play for the team.  Maybe a bit of time in the reserves to get his confidence back.  Either that or accept any bid for him in Jan.  He needs to hit the reset button on his career for his own good and ours.  He's seriously hurting the team.

Offline DJ_NUFC

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« Reply #6012 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 04:36:49 pm »
I know this is going to be a tough ask, but can those who beww him tonight do it loud enough so we can hear the away end on the cameras? Cheers.

Offline The College Dropout

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« Reply #6013 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 04:39:16 pm »
I've been one of his biggest critics but it's not his fault he's the number 10 and shouldn't get boo'd.

Apart from his first 4-5 months here. At a PL level he's consistently been pap for us and has consistently played through it. It's just now the boo boys have targeted him.


Samething happened with Sissoko. He played more or less to a similar standard when he was being "Pardewed", over-rated, then worse than s***. He was performing to similar levels except perceptions had changed.

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« Reply #6014 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 04:45:41 pm »
Did well at the back end of last season

Offline DJ_NUFC

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« Reply #6015 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 04:48:40 pm »
As Trumpism has proved, people have incredibly short memories. Even more so when statistics and data are readily available that counter their own basic-bitch-in-a-knockoff-prada worldview.

Offline The College Dropout

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« Reply #6016 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 04:50:01 pm »
Did well at the back end of last season

That's true but so did everyone. Kenedy's regressed worse imo. Ritchie's dipped etc.

I think Perez could be a decent proper striker off the bench. But he is what he is. 1.5m punt from the Spanish second division. The dangermen at the likes of Everton and West Ham - teams we should compete with - cost £30 to £50m. That's the gulf in class.

Offline AsprillasShinPad

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« Reply #6017 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 07:52:28 pm »
Did well at the back end of last season

That's true but so did everyone. Kenedy's regressed worse imo. Ritchie's dipped etc.

I think Perez could be a decent proper striker off the bench. But he is what he is. 1.5m punt from the Spanish second division. The dangermen at the likes of Everton and West Ham - teams we should compete with - cost £30 to £50m. That's the gulf in class.

Totally agree.  You get what you pay for unfortunately for us, and with the FCB in charge, we are only going to get Lee Cooper and Firetrap rather than Ferrari or Rolex.

Such a shame about Richie though, there is definitely a good player there, but he's regressed so much for some reason.

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« Reply #6018 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 10:11:05 pm »
Can you change the title to the correct pronunciation please its confusing.

It should read Ayothe Pereth. Confirmed by the commentator using it again tonight.

Offline Raconteur

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« Reply #6019 on: Wednesday 5 December 2018, 10:28:28 pm »
Can you change the title to the correct pronunciation please its confusing.

It should read Ayothe Pereth. Confirmed by the commentator using it again tonight.

After the Almiron incident, Rafa has clearly briefed the press on how to pronounce Spanish names
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Offline AsprillasShinPad

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« Reply #6020 on: Thursday 6 December 2018, 10:01:55 am »
I thought Perez was deliberately pronounced with a lisp because he's such a pathetic melt.

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« Reply #6021 on: Thursday 6 December 2018, 10:25:39 am »
I thought Perez was deliberately pronounced with a lisp because he's such a pathetic melt.

Speech impediments constitute patheticnesses, now?
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« Reply #6022 on: Thursday 6 December 2018, 11:21:35 am »
Fernández - Gomesh - Pere

Offline AsprillasShinPad

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« Reply #6023 on: Thursday 6 December 2018, 11:23:05 am »
I thought Perez was deliberately pronounced with a lisp because he's such a pathetic melt.

Speech impediments constitute patheticnesses, now?

Yes. As does being short and wearing glasses.

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Offline The College Dropout

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« Reply #6024 on: Thursday 6 December 2018, 12:11:00 pm »
Did well at the back end of last season

That's true but so did everyone. Kenedy's regressed worse imo. Ritchie's dipped etc.

I think Perez could be a decent proper striker off the bench. But he is what he is. 1.5m punt from the Spanish second division. The dangermen at the likes of Everton and West Ham - teams we should compete with - cost £30 to £50m. That's the gulf in class.

Totally agree.  You get what you pay for unfortunately for us, and with the FCB in charge, we are only going to get Lee Cooper and Firetrap rather than Ferrari or Rolex.

Such a shame about Richie though, there is definitely a good player there, but he's regressed so much for some reason.

I've said this before but I don't think it's easy being an attacker under Benitez at all. That's a contributing factor.

I don't know about Valencia but he had Carew and Aimar. Carew I think had one great goalscoring season but overall wouldn't class him as a top striker. A decent goalscorer and a good target man I think is fair.

At other teams I think some of our attackers could perform better. We've seen it with Mitro. But I don't think Perez and Ritchie's ceilings are close to Mitro. I think there's a couple levels Kenedy could do.