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Offline NEEJ

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Re: Hatem Ben Arfa
« Reply #15225 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 12:29:30 pm »
The f*** is wrong in being a HBA fan boy, Dinho?

It's embarrassing coming from grown men. :lol:

He was a class player for us but he also disappointed us in other aspects. Not sure why so many people on here have to conjure up the lamest excuses to defend him at every opportunity.

The love of him here is well over the top to the point that a rational debate about him is not possible (from his fanyboys' side). It's also well over the top that it makes me look like a HBA hater - but the truth is that I like him very much and will still remember him for the better memories that he gave us.

But defending him at all cost is, in essence, the problem here.

I'd say your relentless dismissals against those opinions is equally if not more embarrassing. It's weird and bordering on the obsessive.

Offline Dinho lad

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« Reply #15226 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:18:37 pm »
Another sign of a fanboy’s emotional processing of this subject: overmagnifying the response.

Offline STM

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« Reply #15227 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:30:52 pm »
I'm a HBA fan boy!!! Where do I sign?

Suppose that's what good players do, make you like them. Bizarre really.
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« Reply #15228 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:31:39 pm »
It amazes me the people on here that put him ahead of Beardsley,Solano ,Lee or Robert. They either didn't see them players play or just have some bizarre love in for Ben Area. Wherever he's been he's been lazy and his attitude stinks yes he's got talent but my god he's not on the same level as the players mentioned

Can't remember much about Beardsley or Lee but Solano and Robert are two of my all time favourite NUFC players. They were great and entertaining players in the SBR years but their careers were nothing special outside of that little spell and in the end the SBR team won nothing either. Meanwhile HBA has won a countless number of trophies playing for the three biggest teams in France and had a great and entertaining spell here (when allowed).

World must be a wondrous place for you if people putting HBA ahead Nobby or Robert in their all time NUFC XI amazes you.

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Can I please point out that Cacapa won more French league titles

Did I put Cacapa in my all time XI?

No but you were using French league titles as a barometer for saying that HBA was superior to Nobby and Robert so I was just pointing out that on that measure you can’t leave Cacapa out of your XI
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Offline James

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« Reply #15229 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:35:33 pm »
As mentioned by others, saying one NUFC player was better than other NUFC players does not equal said NUFC player having had a greater impact on NUFC over time or achieved more in their time at NUFC. It just means that someone thinks one player was better than another player and therefore when making a fictional «Best XI» it would make sense to include that player since it’s not a «Most Impactful/Influential XI».

I think people get that but there are just so so so many midfielders and strikers that had more talent than HBA he should be nowhere near a best XI.

That’s not saying he wasn’t a good player on his day but we’ve been starved of good players for so long that he is overrated to the extreme.
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Offline alijmitchell

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Re: Hatem Ben Arfa
« Reply #15230 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:36:01 pm »
God why are people so het- up all the time? "Fan boy" being used as a derogatory term for someone that liked watching a player. What does it actually matter?

Offline dabe

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« Reply #15231 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:45:22 pm »
God why are people so het- up all the time? "Fan boy" being used as a derogatory term for someone that liked watching a player. What does it actually matter?

You can like a player, but don't you dare like that player too much...you have to be a casual fan at all times or Dinho will get offended.

Offline loki679

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« Reply #15232 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 01:58:57 pm »
Dunno, like.  Remember the weirdos that signed up here when he joined?
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Offline Bimpy474

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« Reply #15233 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 02:30:31 pm »
God why are people so het- up all the time? "Fan boy" being used as a derogatory term for someone that liked watching a player. What does it actually matter?

It is mental, i loved Hatem, blokes was an entertainer and in an age of fairly boring holding players all over the shop with athletes who can run and run formations, he got you off your seat.

I'm a fan boy, proud to be one if that's what i have to be called to be fan of an exciting footballer. I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks, he was mint.

Offline Disco

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« Reply #15234 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 02:48:15 pm »
God why are people so het- up all the time? "Fan boy" being used as a derogatory term for someone that liked watching a player. What does it actually matter?

You can like a player, but don't you dare like that player too much...you have to be a casual fan at all times or Dinho will get offended.

Casual fan but never casual finishing.

Offline joeyt

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« Reply #15235 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 03:07:59 pm »
Another one to discuss at the NO social tonight

Offline Kanji

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« Reply #15236 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 03:11:32 pm »
The greatest weirdo joining era was the Patrick Kluivert bunch.
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Offline Dinho lad

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« Reply #15237 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 04:19:23 pm »
God why are people so het- up all the time? "Fan boy" being used as a derogatory term for someone that liked watching a player. What does it actually matter?

You can like a player, but don't you dare like that player too much...you have to be a casual fan at all times or Dinho will get offended.

Casual fan but never casual finishing.

Casual! :memelol:

Offline NEEJ

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« Reply #15238 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 05:07:19 pm »
Another sign of a fanboy’s emotional processing of this subject: overmagnifying the response.
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Offline Odin

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« Reply #15239 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 05:08:54 pm »
Solano was way more talented than Ben Arfa a wand of a right foot and one of the best passers and crossers we ever had. Such an intelligent player too.

Way more talented? No chance. Better and more intelligent, of course.

Totally different player. Solano was more like Beckham but with more skill.

With a best XI, you’d obviously have Keegan managing them, so for that reason Ben Arfa is in there. Just imagine how motivated he’d have been.

Rob Lee was a good midfielder and a very good captain but Cabaye is/was far more gifted and a superior passer. Speed has to be in there, and I’d have Ginola in over Robert every time. Almost unstoppable when on the ball (Robert had to work much harder which he didn’t always do..)

I take the point about Beardsley and to a lesser extent Hamann, but.. the former has pretty much tarnished himself over the last decade by how he’s licked up to MA and Dietmar Hamann is one of the most humourless c***s I’ve ever seen (he’s also got a strange eye twitch which makes him look like a mental patient), anyone who’s seen his pundit work will know what I’m talking about.
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Offline Pata

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« Reply #15240 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 06:50:26 pm »
It amazes me the people on here that put him ahead of Beardsley,Solano ,Lee or Robert. They either didn't see them players play or just have some bizarre love in for Ben Area. Wherever he's been he's been lazy and his attitude stinks yes he's got talent but my god he's not on the same level as the players mentioned

Can't remember much about Beardsley or Lee but Solano and Robert are two of my all time favourite NUFC players. They were great and entertaining players in the SBR years but their careers were nothing special outside of that little spell and in the end the SBR team won nothing either. Meanwhile HBA has won a countless number of trophies playing for the three biggest teams in France and had a great and entertaining spell here (when allowed).

World must be a wondrous place for you if people putting HBA ahead Nobby or Robert in their all time NUFC XI amazes you.

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Can I please point out that Cacapa won more French league titles

Did I put Cacapa in my all time XI?

No but you were using French league titles as a barometer for saying that HBA was superior to Nobby and Robert so I was just pointing out that on that measure you can’t leave Cacapa out of your XI

I didn't even say that HBA was superior, just that it's hardly ridiculous to put him in ahead of Nobby or Robert in an all time XI like the quoted poster suggested.

Offline Dinho lad

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« Reply #15241 on: Sunday 12 August 2018, 07:08:20 pm »
Laughable.

Offline M4

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« Reply #15242 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 12:33:50 am »
Well that just seems like an overmagnified response.
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Offline Dinho lad

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« Reply #15243 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 06:51:16 am »

Offline Geordie Ahmed

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« Reply #15244 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 11:01:42 am »
It amazes me the people on here that put him ahead of Beardsley,Solano ,Lee or Robert. They either didn't see them players play or just have some bizarre love in for Ben Area. Wherever he's been he's been lazy and his attitude stinks yes he's got talent but my god he's not on the same level as the players mentioned

Can't remember much about Beardsley or Lee but Solano and Robert are two of my all time favourite NUFC players. They were great and entertaining players in the SBR years but their careers were nothing special outside of that little spell and in the end the SBR team won nothing either. Meanwhile HBA has won a countless number of trophies playing for the three biggest teams in France and had a great and entertaining spell here (when allowed).

World must be a wondrous place for you if people putting HBA ahead Nobby or Robert in their all time NUFC XI amazes you.

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Can I please point out that Cacapa won more French league titles

Did I put Cacapa in my all time XI?

No but you were using French league titles as a barometer for saying that HBA was superior to Nobby and Robert so I was just pointing out that on that measure you can’t leave Cacapa out of your XI

I didn't even say that HBA was superior, just that it's hardly ridiculous to put him in ahead of Nobby or Robert in an all time XI like the quoted poster suggested.
Considering HBA had a better end product (in terms of goals&assists ratio wise) than Robert (Ginola too) I don't think it's crazy to put him ahead of Robert.

For some reason you've got people that either fell for the bullshit spread by Pardew or they hate football getting bemused by it when it's actually not that much of a shock.

Offline geordiedean

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« Reply #15245 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 02:41:32 pm »
Solano was way more talented than Ben Arfa a wand of a right foot and one of the best passers and crossers we ever had. Such an intelligent player too.

Way more talented? No chance. Better and more intelligent, of course.

Totally different player. Solano was more like Beckham but with more skill.

With a best XI, you’d obviously have Keegan managing them, so for that reason Ben Arfa is in there. Just imagine how motivated he’d have been.

Rob Lee was a good midfielder and a very good captain but Cabaye is/was far more gifted and a superior passer. Speed has to be in there, and I’d have Ginola in over Robert every time. Almost unstoppable when on the ball (Robert had to work much harder which he didn’t always do..)

I take the point about Beardsley and to a lesser extent Hamann, but.. the former has pretty much tarnished himself over the last decade by how he’s licked up to MA and Dietmar Hamann is one of the most humourless c***s I’ve ever seen (he’s also got a strange eye twitch which makes him look like a mental patient), anyone who’s seen his pundit work will know what I’m talking about.

Are you off your rocker saying Cabaye was far more gifted than Rob lee???
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Offline Zero

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« Reply #15246 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 02:52:44 pm »
HBA is the one with better talents, but Nobby is our best eleven.

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« Reply #15247 on: Monday 13 August 2018, 03:18:47 pm »
Can't play the trumpet can he?


Offline joeyt

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« Reply #15248 on: Wednesday 15 August 2018, 10:44:05 am »
One for the fanboys

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Offline Ian W

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« Reply #15249 on: Wednesday 15 August 2018, 11:07:14 am »
f***, don’t need that West Ham season ticket now.