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Offline The College Dropout

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Re: The Squad, Fringe Players and Transfers
« Reply #100 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 03:09:53 PM »
Diame, Colback, De Jong, Perez.

We need 2 to leave in order to sign both a CM and AM. I suspect all of them make a fair wedge a week.

New AM, New CM, Shelvey, Hayden + 2 of the above. 


Obviously Saivet needs selling.

Offline Ronaldo

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« Reply #101 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 03:24:18 PM »
Perez won't be on much, surely?

Offline Pilko

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« Reply #102 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 04:21:19 PM »
Absolutely no way he will sell Perez IMO.

I honestly think Diame will be considered as a CM this season and that De Jong will stay too.
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Offline Tomato Deuce

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« Reply #103 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 04:59:54 PM »
Absolutely no way he will sell Perez IMO.

I honestly think Diame will be considered as a CM this season and that De Jong will stay too.

That's plausible. We could do worse than Diame as Shelvey's back-up. Ideally we sell Saivet and/or Colback (preferably both) and bring in a DM like McCarthy or Samaris as well as a CAM to compete with de Jong and Perez.

CM: Shelvey, Diame
DM: McCarthy/Samaris, Hayden
CAM: New CAM, de Jong, Perez

Offline The College Dropout

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« Reply #104 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 07:56:56 PM »
Perez won't be on much, surely?

Perez I don't see leaving. But we need to shift Diame and De Jong or risk not being able to add a new body. We have 22 outfield positions available and an overload of crappy midfielders and second strikers considering we would like to improve on those areas.

Offline Tiotes Witch Doctor

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« Reply #105 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 08:21:08 PM »
Think we will end up with Rolan and Clucas and some obscure goalkeeper as our last three signings and start the season with that.

Whether thats with or without Rafa as our manager remains to be seen.

Offline chopey

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« Reply #106 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 08:29:53 PM »
Think we will end up with Rolan and Clucas and some obscure goalkeeper as our last three signings and start the season with that.

Whether thats with or without Rafa as our manager remains to be seen.

I still think our transfer record will be broken
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« Reply #107 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 09:17:46 PM »
Think we will end up with Rolan and Clucas and some obscure goalkeeper as our last three signings and start the season with that.

Whether thats with or without Rafa as our manager remains to be seen.

I still think our transfer record will be broken
I'd love to see that but I'm not so sure but I think that would be a boost that everybody needs especially if the signing was of genuine proven quality. It certainly would do a lot for the relationship between Rafa and those upstairs too.

A statement of intent still badly needed.

Offline The College Dropout

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« Reply #108 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 10:41:55 PM »
Our transfer record still Shearer or is it Owen?

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« Reply #109 on: Sunday 23 July 2017, 10:42:20 PM »
Our transfer record still Shearer or is it Owen?
Owen 17 million.

Offline Rich

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« Reply #110 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 10:29:46 AM »
Only just realised we have 35 players on the books who would require a squad place to be used for them in the PL this season.

Of those you'd imagine Sterry, Gillesphey, Findlay, Smith, El-Mhanni and Toney will find themselves out on loan to drop this to 29 (again, in all cases bar El-Mhanni).

In addition to this there's an argument to be made for Aarons doing the same, which could drop it to 28, though at the current time it seems unlikely.

That still leaves us with plenty of deadweight, but there's a case for Haidara (small), Saivet (small), De Jong (decent) and Mitrovic (decent) to be kept on.

That would leave us trying to flog Krul, Gamez, Hanley, Good, Lazaar and Riviere (none of whom seem to have any future).

Still loads to do :anguish:
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Offline U2

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« Reply #111 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 10:31:56 AM »
Aarons seems to be favoured by Rafa.  Reckon he'll be part of the 25.

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« Reply #112 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 10:32:59 AM »
Doesn't count towards anyway does he?

Offline Rich

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« Reply #113 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 10:34:57 AM »
Aarons seems to be favoured by Rafa.  Reckon he'll be part of the 25.

I think so as well, but I'm pretty sure he'll be aware of the elevated risk of ending up with an "empty" space until January if he does this. He's effectively missed 2.5 seasons with 3 different injuries in the last 3 years now. He has started each season "fit", as well.
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« Reply #114 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 10:35:13 AM »
Doesn't count towards anyway does he?

He does. Cut off date is born on or after January 1st 1996.

Source: https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136

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For the 2016/17 campaign Under-21 players will have been born on or after 1 January 1995.
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Offline Disco

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« Reply #115 on: Monday 24 July 2017, 11:10:06 AM »
Doesn't count towards anyway does he?

He does. Cut off date is born on or after January 1st 1996.

Source: https://www.premierleague.com/news/84136

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For the 2016/17 campaign Under-21 players will have been born on or after 1 January 1995.

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Offline Rich

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« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 09:28:21 AM »
Elliot; Yedlin, Lejeune, Clark, Dummett; Hayden, Shelvey; Ritchie, Diame, Murphy; Gayle

Is this our current best XI?
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Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #117 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 09:35:22 AM »
Perez or De Jong ahead of Diame but I'd say pretty much.
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Offline Rich

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« Reply #118 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 09:38:45 AM »
Was really just falling back on the "Gayle works best with Diame" thing. Although I'd like to think that if De Jong stays and remains fit he'd be a better foil.

Don't like Perez + Gayle much at all.
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Offline toontownman

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« Reply #119 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 10:13:29 AM »
Currently a squad of misfits, rejects and gambles. I think our comparative lack of funds and big squad is hampering us big time.

Other than Ritchie I don't see anyone in our squad that doesn't have something to prove in the premiership, doubters to prove wrong or won't be in last chance saloon. Almost seems that's the signing prerogative too. Which might be a masterstroke or the death knell of our premiership survival.

One thing i can for sure say is that i have long envied the fight and passion promoted and smaller teams have brought to the premier league. Provided the motivation is there from the coaching staff i think we will see that for the first time in many years.
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Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #120 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 10:20:34 AM »
Was really just falling back on the "Gayle works best with Diame" thing. Although I'd like to think that if De Jong stays and remains fit he'd be a better foil.

Don't like Perez + Gayle much at all.

I see a poor man's Sheringham & Cole there. I'll be happy with that too.
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Offline Rich

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« Reply #121 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 10:26:18 AM »
Currently a squad of misfits, rejects and gambles. I think our comparative lack of funds and big squad is hampering us big time.

Other than Ritchie I don't see anyone in our squad that doesn't have something to prove in the premiership, doubters to prove wrong or won't be in last chance saloon. Almost seems that's the signing prerogative too. Which might be a masterstroke or the death knell of our premiership survival.

One thing i can for sure say is that i have long envied the fight and passion promoted and smaller teams have brought to the premier league. Provided the motivation is there from the coaching staff i think we will see that for the first time in many years.

:thup:

Like the general thought behind this post. Although I did have the same feeling when we came up last time. It was nice being the underdogs and being led by a good man/manager while it lasted and we had some cracking results early on.
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« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 10:36:59 AM »
We absolutely deserve to be relegated if Bellyiot is playing any games not in an emergency next season.

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« Reply #123 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 10:40:00 AM »
Aye, we're going be desperate if we don't sign a new keeper. I bang on about Reina but someone like him would make the defence more confident, his experience and organisation would be worth it alone.
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Offline TRon

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« Reply #124 on: Wednesday 26 July 2017, 11:01:02 AM »
Elliot; Yedlin, Lejeune, Clark, Dummett; Hayden, Shelvey; Ritchie, Diame, Murphy; Gayle

Is this our current best XI?

Those would be squad fillers for most sides in the Premier. It's worryingly short of proven Premier class.