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Offline David Edgar

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« Reply #16225 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 09:38:54 AM »
Bournemouth under-performed under Howe given the money spent.  He's not one of the special managers who are likely to significantly improve a team.  He's not a terrible manager either.

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« Reply #16227 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 09:46:38 AM »
Bournemouth under-performed under Howe given the money spent.  He's not one of the special managers who are likely to significantly improve a team.  He's not a terrible manager either.

https://www.transferleague.co.uk/squad-cost-comparisons/front-page/premier-league-squad-cost-how-much-did-each-club-spend-on-their-current-players

Can’t see the figures for last season, but season before he had the 4th most cheaply assembled squad in the league. Two of the three who were cheaper went down.
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« Reply #16228 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 10:08:55 AM »
Bournemouth under-performed under Howe given the money spent.  He's not one of the special managers who are likely to significantly improve a team.  He's not a terrible manager either.

He got them from the fourth tier to the Premier League. Is that underperforming?

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« Reply #16229 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 10:45:20 AM »
Think some of the later expensive buys that failed have skewed people's views.

He did a really good job, shame it ended with relegation but he can look back with massive pride imo.

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« Reply #16230 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 10:49:59 AM »
Got a lot of time for Howe, just one of those things when his ideas etc weren't working this season.  They actually did improve massively after we beat them but was too late.

Did an amazing job at Bournemouth, as @Wullie says look at where they've been throughout their history.

He'll get a PL job soon no doubt.

Yes he's had some expensive flops, will say I think it's unlikely he was the one agreeing those deals and also every club makes them at some stage.  Hard job attracting players to such a small club.

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« Reply #16231 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 11:11:26 AM »
Turned his Legaue 1 and Championship players into PL players.

Players like Steve Cook, Callum Wilson, Adam Smith, Charlie Daniels, Ryan Fraser, Matt Ritchie all turned into decent PL players for a season or two

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« Reply #16232 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 11:47:15 AM »
Yep. It’s not Football Manager where you stay up, finish mid-table, qualify for Europe then qualify for Champions League. The reality is they were always going to be susceptible to a bad season.
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« Reply #16233 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 11:49:14 AM »
16th, 9th, 12th & 14th before this season. Come on man that’s amazing for a club like Bournemouth.
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« Reply #16234 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 12:11:33 PM »
Howe did really well overall, but they've always conceded too many goals in the Premier League.

I reckon he needs a rest, but surely will be back maybe mid-season with another club.

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« Reply #16235 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 12:23:41 PM »
16th, 9th, 12th & 14th before this season. Come on man that’s amazing for a club like Bournemouth.

He's took them from the bottom of the football league to 9th in the PL across his 2 spells .  That's an astonishing achievement.

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« Reply #16236 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 12:30:38 PM »
But Ibe.

Ironically a player Rafa tried to sign before he went to Bournemouth.
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« Reply #16237 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 12:33:27 PM »
Actually bottom of the EFL with 17 point gap to safety.

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« Reply #16238 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 01:00:08 PM »
Howe did an amazing job, is a fine manger and good luck to him. What he achieved with Bournemouth was staggering and won’t be bettered anywhere lose at those levels/size of club.
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« Reply #16239 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 02:09:13 PM »
Going to palaces next manager i reckon

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« Reply #16240 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 02:12:15 PM »
Wonder if Bournemouth look at the trend of some of the other ‘small’ clubs who’ve been relegated recently and plump for someone like Allardyce to try and get them up first time by hook or by crook.
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« Reply #16241 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 02:14:33 PM »
Howe's unlucky in that he's English. If he were in Spain, Italy, Germany, there's absolutely no question he'd have been given a big job in those respective countries by now. Coaches have a very different succession structure outside the Premier League.
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« Reply #16242 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 02:22:13 PM »
Howe's unlucky in that he's English. If he were in Spain, Italy, Germany, there's absolutely no question he'd have been given a big job in those respective countries by now. Coaches have a very different succession structure outside the Premier League.

Spot on.
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« Reply #16243 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 02:24:10 PM »
I’d have him here in a heartbeat, it will be interesting mind to see if he can progress with another (bigger/different type) club in the same way it would be if Dyche moved. Some managers are just ideally suited to one club or a certain type of club/doing a certain type of job, ala Allardyce or Moyes. I think Howe out of them all though, is a league above them.
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« Reply #16244 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:34:26 PM »
Going to palaces next manager i reckon

That would be interesting. They’d need quite a lot of player changes to play his way though.

I’d go to a couple of games.

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« Reply #16245 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:35:07 PM »
Howe's unlucky in that he's English. If he were in Spain, Italy, Germany, there's absolutely no question he'd have been given a big job in those respective countries by now. Coaches have a very different succession structure outside the Premier League.

Preferring people like Lampard and Arteta with no managerial experience is very strange.

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« Reply #16246 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:37:42 PM »
Don't see how's it strange tbh, Spanish teams do it quite regularly.

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« Reply #16247 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:41:24 PM »
Never mind.

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« Reply #16248 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:42:13 PM »
Howe's unlucky in that he's English. If he were in Spain, Italy, Germany, there's absolutely no question he'd have been given a big job in those respective countries by now. Coaches have a very different succession structure outside the Premier League.

Preferring people like Lampard and Arteta with no managerial experience is very strange.

Well hopefully it changes, i think it is as i much prefer Lampard's and the Arteta's of the world. Than the Fat Sam, Bruce, Moyes, Pardew, Colin shitefeast magic roundabout bollocks we're usually on.

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« Reply #16249 on: Sunday 2 August 2020, 04:44:15 PM »
True.

I don’t mind giving unproven people a chance, but people like Howe with proven quality should be considered better.