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Re: Paul Dummett
« Reply #3375 on: Sunday 18 November 2018, 10:17:27 pm »
I like the idea of Schar, Fernandez & Lascelles with Kenedy & Yedlon wing-backs and Ki and Shelvey together. Would make us a f*** load less predictable to play against if we have two passers as well as danger down both flanks. Even Ritchie as a right wing-back ahead of Yedlin could be interesting.

We tried that away at Chelsea last season. Gave away a pen and was s****.
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« Reply #3376 on: Sunday 18 November 2018, 10:20:24 pm »
Ritchie already hands his own man over to Yedlin, how the hell's he gunna cover two at once?

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« Reply #3377 on: Monday 19 November 2018, 10:35:38 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.
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« Reply #3378 on: Sunday 2 December 2018, 10:11:20 am »
Please get well soon.

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« Reply #3379 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 01:29:06 am »
Please get well soon.

This comment just sums up how much of a s*** state of affairs the club is in when this hopeless c*** is sorely missed
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

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« Reply #3380 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 10:39:49 am »
Please get well soon.

This comment just sums up how much of a s*** state of affairs the club is in when this hopeless c*** is sorely missed

He's not hopeless - far from it. He's just not glamorous enough for some.
The real point is that his presence has an almost catalytic effect on the defence as a whole in terms of overall cohesion, way above his individual merit.

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« Reply #3381 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 11:59:46 am »
In the grand scheme of things he's pretty bad, we just have to take very limited players and focus on their positives.

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« Reply #3382 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 12:49:16 pm »
Please get well soon.

This comment just sums up how much of a s*** state of affairs the club is in when this hopeless c*** is sorely missed

He's not hopeless - far from it. He's just not glamorous enough for some.
The real point is that his presence has an almost catalytic effect on the defence as a whole in terms of overall cohesion, way above his individual merit.

He is ok at defending but his attacking play and passing is hopeless

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« Reply #3383 on: Monday 3 December 2018, 10:52:50 pm »
Please get well soon.

This comment just sums up how much of a s*** state of affairs the club is in when this hopeless c*** is sorely missed

He's not hopeless - far from it. He's just not glamorous enough for some.
The real point is that his presence has an almost catalytic effect on the defence as a whole in terms of overall cohesion, way above his individual merit.

He is ok at defending but his attacking play and passing is hopeless

See, even that goes too far; he’s limited but not hopeless. His crossing is much improved, and while he goes back and inside too often, he’s capable of feeding a winger or overlapping.

He’s not great, but when he’s missing it is obvious what he brings.
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« Reply #3384 on: Wednesday 12 December 2018, 02:30:52 pm »
Please get well soon.

This comment just sums up how much of a s*** state of affairs the club is in when this hopeless c*** is sorely missed

He's not hopeless - far from it. He's just not glamorous enough for some.
The real point is that his presence has an almost catalytic effect on the defence as a whole in terms of overall cohesion, way above his individual merit.

this, he is a cracking player and defender

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« Reply #3385 on: Wednesday 12 December 2018, 04:20:13 pm »
Short of Enrique, he's been the best LB of the Ashley era. That's damning. And i've defended the lad a lot. I even think had he stayed fit for the last relegation season we would've got an extra 2 points to keep us up.


That's another thing. He's been first choice FB for 6 years. 5 pl seasons. He's not managed more than 25 starts in a campaign. The lads always injured for 2 months in a season. Only managed one 30+ game season once for us.

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« Reply #3386 on: Wednesday 12 December 2018, 04:41:28 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.


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« Reply #3387 on: Wednesday 12 December 2018, 06:48:31 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



Then you get two players doubling up on the LW (as happens a lot now) and it’s an almost impossible job for him. You can’t afford a LB who s***s himself on the ball anymore. Get a left-back who is even half decent on the ball and we’d be far better.
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« Reply #3388 on: Wednesday 12 December 2018, 06:48:59 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



What a surprise you're a Dummettista ;)

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« Reply #3389 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 01:37:57 pm »
Dummett is very similar to Lascelles in that he’s a good defender, but poor on the ball. If he was of a similar level as Yedlin on the ball and going forward, I think he’d be top-notch for us. Not that Yedlin is great on the ball or going forward, but he’s much better and more attack minded than Dummett is. What I like about Dummett is he rarely gets beat for pace or by trickery, loves a tackle, and is good at closing down his man to cut out crosses. Once past the half-way line though he has no attacking nous and on the ball, he can’t pass or cross to save his life. I don’t think he’s a CB though which I know a few people would like to see him play.
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« Reply #3390 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 03:44:29 pm »
Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.

Just being a good tackler isn't enough for a Premier League fullback anymore. He doesn't get far enough up the pitch for a keeper, let alone a LB.


He's definitely not the weakest link in the team but he's been close to it for years now. His shortcomings just aren't as apparent as players like Yedlin. He kills off far too many promising attacks with his conservative passing and reluctance to cross the halfway line.

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« Reply #3391 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 04:13:25 pm »
Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.

Just being a good tackler isn't enough for a Premier League fullback anymore. He doesn't get far enough up the pitch for a keeper, let alone a LB.


He's definitely not the weakest link in the team but he's been close to it for years now. His shortcomings just aren't as apparent as players like Yedlin. He kills off far too many promising attacks with his conservative passing and reluctance to cross the halfway line.

There's way more to defending than tackling. Dummett is good at pretty much all aspects.


Game to game, Yedlin is more of an issue imo.

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« Reply #3392 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 04:35:21 pm »
Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.

Just being a good tackler isn't enough for a Premier League fullback anymore. He doesn't get far enough up the pitch for a keeper, let alone a LB.


He's definitely not the weakest link in the team but he's been close to it for years now. His shortcomings just aren't as apparent as players like Yedlin. He kills off far too many promising attacks with his conservative passing and reluctance to cross the halfway line.

There's way more to defending than tackling. Dummett is good at pretty much all aspects.


Game to game, Yedlin is more of an issue imo.

Always said he is good at defending, but he's also one of the reasons we can't pass the ball effectively. Other way round for Yedlin. Neither are good enough, quality full backs are pretty crucial if you want to play the game above relegation scrap level.

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« Reply #3393 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 05:24:35 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



What a surprise you're a Dummettista ;)

p*ss off you Perez loving melt!  O0 :lol:

Not a Dummettista, but can see him for what he is - a limited defender who makes a passable LB, but can't be relied on to go forward with the ball.  A bit like Aaron Hughes was.

The only way we're going to get an upgrade on him is to spend £££, but there are at least 6 positions on the pitch a higher priority for a spend at the minute.

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« Reply #3394 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 07:24:11 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



What a surprise you're a Dummettista ;)

p*ss off you Perez loving melt!  O0 :lol:

Not a Dummettista, but can see him for what he is - a limited defender who makes a passable LB, but can't be relied on to go forward with the ball.  A bit like Aaron Hughes was.

The only way we're going to get an upgrade on him is to spend £££, but there are at least 6 positions on the pitch a higher priority for a spend at the minute.

Aaron Hughes was a far far better defender and player than Dummett will ever be
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« Reply #3395 on: Thursday 13 December 2018, 09:47:37 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



What a surprise you're a Dummettista ;)

p*ss off you Perez loving melt!  O0 :lol:

Not a Dummettista, but can see him for what he is - a limited defender who makes a passable LB, but can't be relied on to go forward with the ball.  A bit like Aaron Hughes was.

The only way we're going to get an upgrade on him is to spend £££, but there are at least 6 positions on the pitch a higher priority for a spend at the minute.

Aaron Hughes was a far far better defender and player than Dummett will ever be

Agreed.  But my point still stands.  Getting an upgrade on Dummett would cost money that we would be much better off spending on our front six.

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« Reply #3396 on: Yesterday at 03:03:10 pm »
Play Schar at LB or Clark. I'd rather a CB play there and just basically offer as little as Dummett does going forward or less than have Manquillo play there or moving Kenedy back there when he needs to be our X factor in attack.

Nah. Dummett is a solid fullback.  We could massively do without exposing our CBs by playing a winger as a wing back.  Just because he hasn't got sleeve tattoos and tries to do stepovers every game doesn't mean to say that he isn't an important part of the team.

Problem - Dummett is poor going forward.  Solution - play him as a LB rather than a LWB and try and get our wingers to actually add something to the team.



What a surprise you're a Dummettista ;)

p*ss off you Perez loving melt!  O0 :lol:

Not a Dummettista, but can see him for what he is - a limited defender who makes a passable LB, but can't be relied on to go forward with the ball.  A bit like Aaron Hughes was.

The only way we're going to get an upgrade on him is to spend £££, but there are at least 6 positions on the pitch a higher priority for a spend at the minute.

Aaron Hughes was a far far better defender and player than Dummett will ever be

Agreed.  But my point still stands.  Getting an upgrade on Dummett would cost money that we would be much better off spending on our front six.

I suppose you could make an argument that our front players would perform to a better standard if we had better fullbacks. Ritchie might get to stay a bit further up if Yedlin wasn't as much of a liability and Kennedy might have a bit more of an outlet if we had a LB that could overlap.

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« Reply #3397 on: Yesterday at 03:27:35 pm »
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« Reply #3398 on: Yesterday at 05:29:38 pm »
There's no place for him if we're playing 3 at the back like. He can't play wing back.

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« Reply #3399 on: Yesterday at 09:40:53 pm »
There's no place for him if we're playing 3 at the back like. He can't play wing back.

I agree. He's either a LB in a flat back four or not in at all.  Problem is, I don't think we have two wing backs at the club.  Gonna be tough trying to shoehorn Scharrrr in unless Lascelles gets dropped, which I don't think Benitez will do.

Dummett is our new Shola.  He's here forever.