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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4100 on: Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:52:27 AM »
Quote from: B-more Mag on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:48:29 AM
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:29:55 AM
Just a rehash of the Guardian article.

Nah. The AP was there on the ground.

I know, fair enough.  It's just the same sort style, "we spoke to evacuees now in the North", who could literally be anyone.  In saying that, even Fisk is careful in his report to highlight that the Dr in question could be a regime sympathiser.  I just don't think there was an attack, this time, though.  Not disputing the others, or accepting them flat out either. 
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Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
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That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline madras

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4101 on: Wednesday 18 April 2018, 12:38:38 PM »
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: madras on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:40:30 AM
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:15:21 AM
f***ing joke though, right?  The guy's in the mix of it, The Times have no-one in Syria, so they start trying to pan him for contradicting the Western narrative.  All sorts of wrong.  Perhaps they should have held on to Fisk all those years ago. :lol: :thup:
Fisk has been called out a few times for not being entirely factual In his reporting.

He's also won foreign reporter of the year 7 times, reporter of the year 2 and host of other rewards.  I'm well aware of the little snippet in Private Eye that clearly and massively debunked 45 years of his work. :idiot2:
The Daily Mail is the current Newspaper of the year if awards mean that much to you. Looking from the outside you look as if you'll defend him more because you agree with his narrative. No doubt if he peddled a different line you'd be attacking him.
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Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

Offline B-more Mag

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4102 on: Wednesday 18 April 2018, 12:44:47 PM »
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: B-more Mag on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:48:29 AM
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:29:55 AM
Just a rehash of the Guardian article.

Nah. The AP was there on the ground.

I know, fair enough.  It's just the same sort style, "we spoke to evacuees now in the North", who could literally be anyone.  In saying that, even Fisk is careful in his report to highlight that the Dr in question could be a regime sympathiser.  I just don't think there was an attack, this time, though.  Not disputing the others, or accepting them flat out either.

Just posting it for whatever it's worth--given they where there and also interview people there and not just evacuees. I sure as hell can't definitely say what happened from Baltimore when people actually there can't. :lol:
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4103 on: Wednesday 18 April 2018, 12:46:17 PM »
Or I have been reading his stuff for years, have two of his books and appreciate the work he does. :dontknow:

Anyone going to war fronts kind of gains my respect over armchair journalists.
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Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4104 on: Wednesday 18 April 2018, 12:50:24 PM »
Quote from: B-more Mag on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 12:44:47 PM
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: B-more Mag on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:48:29 AM
Quote from: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 18 April 2018, 11:29:55 AM
Just a rehash of the Guardian article.

Nah. The AP was there on the ground.

I know, fair enough.  It's just the same sort style, "we spoke to evacuees now in the North", who could literally be anyone.  In saying that, even Fisk is careful in his report to highlight that the Dr in question could be a regime sympathiser.  I just don't think there was an attack, this time, though.  Not disputing the others, or accepting them flat out either.

Just posting it for whatever it's worth--given they where there and also interview people there and not just evacuees. I sure as hell can't definitely say what happened from Baltimore when people actually there can't. :lol:

Same. :lol:

But we can lean certain ways. :aww:
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Eddy Chibas

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4105 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 11:22:25 AM »
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/israeli-intelligence-trump-syria-strike-failed-2018-4?r=US&IR=T

Almost reads like the Israeli War Room is egging Trump on, to attack again (and harder).
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"I wouldn't say much," he says. "Maybe I'd paddle up to you, tell you to go in, or take off your leash. But later I'd find you, or a few of the other guys would, and you'd be taught a lesson."



Well-played Kala, well-played!

Offline Darth Crooks

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4106 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 11:28:36 AM »
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Offline IneedAbed

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4107 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 06:13:54 PM »
sign of the times but I have had to do bomb and acid attack training .
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Offline newsted

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4108 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 06:54:22 PM »
Quote from: IneedAbed on Thursday 19 April 2018, 06:13:54 PM
sign of the times but I have had to do bomb and acid attack training .

What do you do?
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:) As you were.

Offline summerof69

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4109 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 07:58:29 PM »
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Offline IneedAbed

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4110 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 09:05:14 PM »
Quote from: newsted on Thursday 19 April 2018, 06:54:22 PM
Quote from: IneedAbed on Thursday 19 April 2018, 06:13:54 PM
sign of the times but I have had to do bomb and acid attack training .

What do you do?
security, not state
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Offline newsted

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4111 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 09:41:20 PM »
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Offline IneedAbed

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4112 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 10:02:11 PM »
my underpants are black and white  :angel:
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Offline newsted

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4113 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 10:06:07 PM »
:lol: Normal. Just wondering why you differentiated between security and state, man. We're all cool here.
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Offline IneedAbed

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4114 on: Thursday 19 April 2018, 10:53:23 PM »
Quote from: newsted on Thursday 19 April 2018, 10:06:07 PM
:lol: Normal. Just wondering why you differentiated between security and state, man. We're all cool here.
theres a massive difference mate ,  :occasion14:
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Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4115 on: Friday 20 April 2018, 12:17:37 AM »
Surely the acid attack training is a reflection of crime in London, not Barry Assad gassing his people?
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #4116 on: Thursday 26 April 2018, 03:12:43 PM »
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline BlufPurdi

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4117 on: Friday 27 April 2018, 01:47:02 AM »
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline 54

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Re: Syria, Iraq & Islamic State related atrocities all here
« Reply #4118 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 06:24:08 PM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43952196

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has revealed what he says are "secret nuclear files" proving Iran is covertly pursuing nuclear weapons.

He said 55,000 pages of material obtained by Israel showed Iran had deceived the world since signing a deal in 2015 to curb its nuclear programme.
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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #4119 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 06:46:24 PM »
Coming from the most trustworthy source in the world.  I believe!
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Mr Logic

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« Reply #4120 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 08:53:26 PM »
Oh this is kicking off now.

Netenyahu looks more like a frigging magician revealing these files and CD's like its a stage show. :facepalm:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43952196
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Offline Mr Logic

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« Reply #4121 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 08:56:11 PM »
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« Reply #4122 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 09:04:34 PM »
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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #4123 on: Monday 30 April 2018, 11:00:29 PM »
He's got his own internal problems to worry about, so naturally, of course he just found a batch of top-class Iranian info proving he was right all along and that we should attack them now, without a second wasted on either verification or due process. 

Meanwhile, on the Gaza strip, let's shoot children and justify it by telling us they should be at school. 

AND GET AWAY WITH IT

It's not even funny anymore.  What's worse is, we'll actually bend over backwards and entertain this repugnant murderous psychopath.  Trump will follow him along like he's the Pied Piper.
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Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline Adam^

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« Reply #4124 on: Tuesday 1 May 2018, 04:12:15 AM »
Man with stockpiles of secret nukes tells the world country shouldn't have its own secret nukes. Does anyone believe that Iran would ever nuke Israel?
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