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Offline Mr Logic

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« Reply #4125 on: Tuesday 1 May 2018, 07:33:43 PM »
This later article seems to make a bit of sense, perhaps, in the convoulted world of Int. Geopolitics

https://www.timesofisrael.com/resonant-syria-strike-suggests-coordinated-us-israel-message-to-russia-and-iran/

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Resonant Syria strike suggests coordinated US-Israel message to Russia and Iran

Overnight attack comes with Pompeo in the region, Netanyahu and Trump on the phone, Liberman in the US, and the US Army CENTCOM chief having visited without fanfare last week

Avi Issacharoff   
By Avi Issacharoff   30 April 2018, 1:47 pm 17



Hours after a mysterious “earthquake” — 2. 6 on the Richter scale — registered on the devices of the European Mediterranean Seismological Center, the circumstances behind the series of explosions that shook Syria overnight Sunday-Monday are starting to become clear.

An increasing number of media organizations associated with the Syrian regime and Hezbollah are hinting that Israel was responsible. According to a report in the Al Akhbar newspaper, identified with Hezbollah, bunker buster missiles, which do not explode on impact but rather deep in the ground, hit bases in the Hama and Aleppo areas. Hence the “earthquake.”

The base that was attacked in the Hama area belongs to the 47th Brigade of President Bashar Assad’s Syrian Army, but apparently there were many Shiites and/or Iranians in the area. The Syrian Human Rights Observatory (based in London) reported that 26 people were killed in this attack, Iranians among them. Another report spoke of 38 fatalities. Whatever the case, it is clear that the strike was highly unusual in several respects.

First and foremost was the sheer power of the attack. The pictures and the sounds, and the large number of casualties, point to an incident of larger scale than those to which we have become accustomed. We are not talking here about just another strike on another Hezbollah convoy, but rather what would appear to be a new step in what is now the almost-open warfare being waged between Iran and Israel in recent weeks on Syrian territory. The same player that earlier this month attacked the T-4 airbase, from which an Iranian attack drone was launched into Israel in February, apparently struck again overnight Sunday-Monday, taking the gloves off and moving into a new level of military confrontation.

Second, not only is the attacking force not rushing to take responsibility, but those who are being attacked are not hurrying to assign blame. That is to say, there may be hints regarding ostensible Israeli responsibility, but there has been no direct accusation — at least not at the time of writing.

    فيديو للإنفجارات في ريف حماه ..نسأل الله السلامة للرجال هناك ..????الشفاء العاجل للجرحى ..حتى الآن لم يصرح مصدر مسؤول عن ماهية الإنفجارات ..#محردة_الآن

    Posted by ‎محردة الآن‎ on Sunday, 29 April 2018

Indeed, one newspaper associated with the Assad regime, Tishreen, has even claimed that the attack was carried out by US and UK forces using ballistic missiles fired from Jordan. This report would appear to be somewhat improbable, but the bottom line is that Damascus, Tehran and even Moscow would seem to be wary at this stage of issuing declarations that might require them to retaliate against Israel, or cause them to appear to be making empty threats in light of Iran’s repeated public promises after the last attack, on T-4, that retaliation against Israel would emphatically follow.

Third, the latest strike was carried out at a time when the US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is visiting the region, and just a few hours after he held talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The two of them used the opportunity to issue no shortage of threats and promises to thwart Iran’s aggression and nuclear ambitions.
US Army General Joseph Votel, head of US Central Command, testifies during a House Armed Services Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, February 27, 2018. (AFP /Saul Loeb)

Late Sunday, news also broke of a phone call between Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump. Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman has been meeting with his US counterpart James Mattis in Washington. And less than a week ago, Gen. Joseph Votel, the head of the US army’s Central Command, or CENTCOM, whose sphere of responsibility includes Syria and Iran, made a largely unpublicized visit to Israel.

All this is beginning to look rather like a coordinated Israeli-American operation to limit Iran’s military activities in Syria — simultaneously conveying the message to Moscow that Russia’s green light for Iran to establish itself militarily in Syria is not acceptable in Jerusalem and Washington.

These developments are unfolding during a highly dramatic period in the region, with the US two weeks away from opening its embassy in Jerusalem. Of most specific relevance, however, is the fact that in less than two weeks the Trump administration will make its decision on whether or not to withdraw from the Iranian nuclear deal.

In that light, the resonant strikes in Syria overnight will doubtless constitute considerable food for thought for Tehran, and indeed Moscow, regarding their next moves in Syria and maybe in other places as well.
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« Reply #4126 on: Wednesday 9 May 2018, 11:06:13 PM »
Israel has now been bombing/shelling the Iranian/Syrian forces for 2 nights running, problem is the Iranian/Syrian forces have now began to respond, launching missiles & shells towards IDF targets in Israel. This s***s not going to end well.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mawilner/status/994337809925267456

https://mobile.twitter.com/Elizrael/status/994338174691348482

https://mobile.twitter.com/SulomeAnderson/status/994341918120333313

https://mobile.twitter.com/usafshortwave/status/994337752614236160
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« Reply #4127 on: Wednesday 9 May 2018, 11:52:06 PM »
:lol:  People were seriously talking about Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize a few days ago.

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« Reply #4128 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 12:15:22 AM »
Frightening ain't it :lol:


Anyway...

https://mobile.twitter.com/mawilner/status/994354342453891072

It's all coming up Bolton..

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« Reply #4129 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 09:02:27 AM »
And away we go.

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« Reply #4130 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 10:38:31 AM »
Well they didn't hang around for long did they.

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« Reply #4131 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 11:18:58 AM »
Bolton's wife, Gretchen, probably got lucky last night. For him, putting into place 'Plan B' must be better than popping Viagra.
"That's where we step in," Alexander says. "We make sure there's order, that people aren't taking off on top of each other. On a wave like Pipe, doing something stupid isn't just not having surfing etiquette. It's attempted murder. Getting dropped in on at Pipe is like someone pointing a gun at your head. And you know, if you point a gun at one of us, well, there are gonna be consequences."

What would happen if someone dropped in on Alexander?

"I wouldn't say much," he says. "Maybe I'd paddle up to you, tell you to go in, or take off your leash. But later I'd find you, or a few of the other guys would, and you'd be taught a lesson."



Well-played Kala, well-played!

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« Reply #4132 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 12:07:28 PM »
This is madness with Iran.  I don't think we realise how resilient Obama was those 8 years, he hated Bibi (I'm sure him Sarkozy got taped saying that :lol:)*.  Trump on the scene one year, and Bibi's played him beautifully.  Achieved more with Trump in a year than successive presidents over decades. 

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« Reply #4133 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 02:04:27 PM »
This is madness with Iran.  I don't think we realise how resilient Obama was those 8 years, he hated Bibi (I'm sure him Sarkozy got taped saying that :lol:)*.  Trump on the scene one year, and Bibi's played him beautifully.  Achieved more with Trump in a year than successive presidents over decades. 

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:iamatwat:

:thup: He's got him wrapped round his little finger.

This has got to be as close to a full blown Israeli/Iranian war as I can remember.

White house says:
@AP

BREAKING: White House condemns Iran after rocket attack on Golan Heights, `strongly supports' Israel's right to self-defense.

Syria says:
@AFP

#BREAKING Syria says Israeli attack marks 'new phase' in war

Whilst the Iranians say:
@ELINTNews

9m

#BREAKING: Iranian Minister and Security official states that Israel will ‘pay dearly’ and a high price for what it has done to Iran in #Syria

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I doubt this is going to end well anytime soon.






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« Reply #4134 on: Thursday 10 May 2018, 03:41:08 PM »


Donald J. Trump

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« Reply #4135 on: Saturday 12 May 2018, 10:02:34 AM »
Popping up in Jerusalem, ahead of the embassy move.

"That's where we step in," Alexander says. "We make sure there's order, that people aren't taking off on top of each other. On a wave like Pipe, doing something stupid isn't just not having surfing etiquette. It's attempted murder. Getting dropped in on at Pipe is like someone pointing a gun at your head. And you know, if you point a gun at one of us, well, there are gonna be consequences."

What would happen if someone dropped in on Alexander?

"I wouldn't say much," he says. "Maybe I'd paddle up to you, tell you to go in, or take off your leash. But later I'd find you, or a few of the other guys would, and you'd be taught a lesson."



Well-played Kala, well-played!

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« Reply #4136 on: Saturday 12 May 2018, 11:43:24 AM »
Paraguay, I think, are also moving their embassy to Jerusalem soon.


EDIT: Wrong thread.
« Last Edit: Saturday 12 May 2018, 12:15:02 PM by BlufPurdi »
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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« Reply #4137 on: Saturday 12 May 2018, 06:01:33 PM »
:lol:  People were seriously talking about Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize a few days ago.

Yet who were those f***ing people talking?
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« Reply #4138 on: Saturday 12 May 2018, 06:15:34 PM »
:lol:  People were seriously talking about Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize a few days ago.

Yet who were those f***ing people talking?

The South Korean President wasn't it. I have to say i'm in favour just because it would p*ss off so many people.

I never thought it was going to kick off in Korea, there would just be nothing in it for anyone. This Iran stuff is seriously dodgy though, watching him pull out of the deal then walk to the side of the stage and get his back patted by John Bolton was ominous. I just hope we don't get involved when/if it does happen.

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« Reply #4139 on: Saturday 12 May 2018, 06:38:34 PM »
Sadly it looks more likely than not. John Bolton has had a hard on for this for years, and if he is the last guy leaving the room with Trump...

John Bolton is a war criminal just flexing his muscles. And add in the fact that Bibi is facing the possibility criminal charges for corruption, and ahem, Trump's investigation. Time is ripening for a Reichstag fire.

And those dip s***s who fall for it again after the disastrous decision of the last 15 years get what they deserve. I am bracing for the media to get on board as soon as the bombs start dropping. Look how Van Jones turned into an obsequious little bitch as soon as Trump had a few symbolic Tomahawks lobbed into Syria. So depressing.
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« Reply #4140 on: Sunday 13 May 2018, 07:26:04 PM »
What do you think will happen, QM?  Waste a few good years of war with Iran within Syria as the playing field, or a proper invasion, regime change, the lot in Iran?  We've already got our 'leaders' swarming around Trump, playing to his and Bibi's tune, but I hope the rest of Europe/the world hold firm against them. 

Not even that war with Iran is wrong, but the reneging on the deal is really something the US has to feel some pain from.  Trump's getting away with murder because he knows everyone relies on the US, it's a sad state of affairs and shows just how good, to some degree, we've had it all these years with the level of cooperation, coherency, and straightforward honour regarding deals and treaties made. 

If he's really going to be impeached, get the f*** on with it. :lol:
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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« Reply #4141 on: Sunday 13 May 2018, 08:53:22 PM »
I think the damage he has and will do will be somewhat irreversible. The Pandora's Box this piece of s*** has opened is going to be hard to close. When an intelligent demagogue uses his playbook...

I suspect that the s*** in Syria will very soon lead to a direct large-scale confrontation with Iran, which is what the hawks in Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the U.S. have really wanted. The first months will play out predictably when much of the public will get behind him, and the collective nut sack of the media will ascend ever upward. After that, there will be a predictable quagmire. As long as they time the war for around mid-term elections, then the GOP might even retain their majority.

This will likely be the final nail in the coffin of American Imperium. Countries are going to have to find ways to no longer rely on the U.S. now.

Will it cause regime change in Iran? What it will likely do is completely destabilize the country, and possibly lead to a full-scale Sunni-Shia war.

But really, who knows? The only thing I can probably predict with accuracy is that this s*** will not end well.
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« Reply #4142 on: Monday 25 June 2018, 10:24:46 PM »
New evidence presented today puts almost no shadow of a doubt that chemical attack was real.

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« Reply #4143 on: Thursday 28 June 2018, 01:35:27 AM »
 :tumbleweed:

You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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« Reply #4144 on: Thursday 28 June 2018, 02:20:59 AM »
I'll take Neesy's word over Seymour Hersh's any day of the week.

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« Reply #4145 on: Thursday 28 June 2018, 05:14:40 AM »
New evidence presented today puts almost no shadow of a doubt that chemical attack was real.

Link?

OPCW report on Douma is due out some point this week.

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« Reply #4146 on: Tuesday 31 July 2018, 12:52:52 PM »
Read an ISIS attack killed 200 odd last week, not convinced I heard that on the news at all (I know I didn't).  Strange the way this war has fallen from favour, and coverage, since Trump's tacit acceptance that Assad will remain. 

Also worth a read:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-28/robert-fisk-i-traced-missile-casings-syria-back-their-original-sellers
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.
We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate.
Student says " I am very discouraged. What should I do?" Master says, "encourage others."
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
This is what should be done. By one who is skilled in goodness, and who knows the path of peace: Let them be able and upright, straightforward and gentle in speech. Humble and not conceited, contented and easily satisfied. Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways. Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful, not proud and demanding in nature. Let them not do the slightest thing that the wise would later reprove.

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« Reply #4147 on: Monday 6 August 2018, 03:03:50 PM »
See Israel rescued a couple of hundred ''white helmets'' who moved into Jordan via Israeli border - on their way to Germany, UK and Holland. :lol: Honestly they are definitely Syrians.

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« Reply #4148 on: Monday 6 August 2018, 03:18:25 PM »
???

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« Reply #4149 on: Monday 6 August 2018, 03:21:56 PM »
???

There are rumours that the white helmets weren't Syrian rescue workers but were actually up to no good during the conflict,  supposedly external fighters working against Assad and his regime.   Theyve now been scuttled out of the country as the West has lost Syria.