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Offline GeordieMessiah

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 12:06:25 am »
f***. Could only watch the first 20secs or so of that and I wish I now hadn't. :(

Something needs to be done about this evil regime, but as usual the UN will sit on their hands and do nout. :(

I couldn't watch more than that myself, I have to admit. And I also feel a bit scarred by watching it. f***ing f***. How anyone can do that is beyond my (and most people's) comprehension... :(

Meanwhile, as the UN Security Council met this evening it doesn't look like we're going to be doing anything about it anytime soon: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18229870

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Shashank Joshi, Associate fellow, Royal United Services Institute

So far, there is no sign that Houla will be a game-changer. First, remember that this massacre will be interpreted differently around the world.

Many countries sympathise with the Assad's government narrative that the opposition are Arab-backed Sunni fundamentalists and terrorists.

Just as some critics argue that the massacres in Libya last year and Racak, Kosovo, in 1999 are exaggerated or fabricated, similar scepticism about Houla will persist, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence - and that will affect how the UN Security Council lines up on the issue.

Moreover, the growing role of al-Qaeda and affiliated jihadist groups in Syria has, in recent months, become a further deterrent to intervention.

American officials are terrified that support for the opposition may end up in the hands of the very same people that mounted attacks on Western forces in Iraq just a few years ago.

Above all, however, no-one wants to pick a fight with Russia.

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 12:11:42 am »
Don't care which county it's happening at, any scum f***ers doing stuff like that need need taking out pronto.
even if it leads on to worse ?
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« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 12:31:33 am »
Don't care which county it's happening at, any scum f***ers doing stuff like that need need taking out pronto.
even if it leads on to worse ?
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« Reply #28 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 12:36:03 am »
Don't care which county it's happening at, any scum f***ers doing stuff like that need need taking out pronto.
even if it leads on to worse ?

And how worse could it be?

They'd be more occupied trying to dodge a major onslaught than they would killing innocents.
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Offline Big Geordie

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 10:53:02 am »
I think the worry is Russia and China and who wants to cross them......
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« Reply #30 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 11:01:37 am »
Thats sickening, how can Russia just sit by and allow that. The leader should be shot and burned for what he's done.

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« Reply #31 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 12:13:54 pm »
Rebels in Syria are partly responsible for the massacre of more than 100 people in the town of Houla, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18235965

Take it Russia are preventing the UN taking action again. Purely down to the fact that the weapons that are killing these civilians were bought from Russia.

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 01:50:02 pm »
Sickening but as ususal innocent civilians are caught up in the geo-political game.

Russia and China are twitchy about Syria cause they know Iran is next and especially China has a lot tied up in Iran now.

You can bet your life on the fact that a good proportion of the rebels are American and Saudi backed and there is eveidence a lot have been flown into Turkey from Libya and paid to fight in Syria.

As dominoes go, Syria is a big one for America and on the other side Russia and China.

What nobody wants is this breaking out into something bigger and worse.

And Kofi is f***ing useless.
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 03:36:07 pm »
Sickening but as ususal innocent civilians are caught up in the geo-political game.

Russia and China are twitchy about Syria cause they know Iran is next and especially China has a lot tied up in Iran now.

You can bet your life on the fact that a good proportion of the rebels are American and Saudi backed and there is eveidence a lot have been flown into Turkey from Libya and paid to fight in Syria.

As dominoes go, Syria is a big one for America and on the other side Russia and China.

What nobody wants is this breaking out into something bigger and worse.

And Kofi is f***ing useless.

Russia have straight up said that they're treating any attack on Iran as an attack against their security and they will attack anyone involved. They've also began massing troops in Armenia and it's thought that they could make a full scale attack on Georgia as there's an important road linking Russia to Armenia that runs through Georgia which the Georgian's have blocked Russia from using after the last invasion. Basically, an attack on Iran and the whole region is one giant f*** up which is likely to begin on Iranian turf and then expand across Central Asia, as allies of Iran begin to bomb the s*** out of allies of the West, and vice-versa.

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« Reply #34 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 03:39:14 pm »
Russia blaming the rebels for the killings, f***ing typical Communist t***s.

Offline Big Geordie

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« Reply #35 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 03:45:21 pm »
Russia still siding itself with the regime then. How long for though?
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« Reply #36 on: Monday 28 May 2012, 03:52:20 pm »
Much bigger game here being played by the west, Russia and China wont budge cos of this reason.  No matter how many innocents are dying. 

Plus Russia is Syrias historical Allie.
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 11:24:10 am »

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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 01:15:34 pm »
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Syria: most Houla dead executed says UN

The UN said on Tuesday that entire families were shot in their homes during a massacre in Syria last week that killed more than 100 people, including children.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9297123/Syria-most-Houla-dead-executed-says-UN.html

:(

Offline Big Geordie

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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 01:19:33 pm »
:( indeed.
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 02:02:01 pm »
nowt will happen.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 02:16:30 pm »
France, Germany, UK, Spain and others have all kicked their Syrian ambassadors out.

Offline GeordieMessiah

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 10:29:10 pm »
France, Germany, UK, Spain and others have all kicked their Syrian ambassadors out.

And that will be it. That will be the sum total of Western "action" on this issue. :(
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On that pathetic fact known as human greed
Skin and bone being raked over those hot coals
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 10:35:12 pm »
Do we actually know they were killed by the security forces? Just saying, it seems pretty unclear and with conflicting reports it's just stupid to point fingers. Just seems strange to me that Assad's forces would execute children in this way. Their main target is neutralizing insurgents, not killing children.

Not trying to start some kind of conspiracy theory but it's a fact that private military companies like Blackwater are operating in Syria atm and they are the sort of people that would do something like this to incinerate the conflict.

Offline Dave

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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 11:39:13 pm »
Chap on the radio earlier said that most believe it to be a particular militia that has ties with and sympathetic support from the Assad regime, rather than their own security forces.

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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 11:50:44 pm »
Its the ruling party that issues orders to them to do so, His dad killed even more people in similar ways during his regime, they rule by blood its simple as that.

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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 29 May 2012, 11:52:28 pm »
If he had any sense he would punish them..severely (if true).

What the hell were they trying to achieve on his behalf ???
submission by fear, it's worked time and time again.
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 30 May 2012, 07:33:09 am »
Sickening but as ususal innocent civilians are caught up in the geo-political game.

Russia and China are twitchy about Syria cause they know Iran is next and especially China has a lot tied up in Iran now.

You can bet your life on the fact that a good proportion of the rebels are American and Saudi backed and there is eveidence a lot have been flown into Turkey from Libya and paid to fight in Syria.

As dominoes go, Syria is a big one for America>>> (AIPAC) and on the other side Russia and China.

What nobody wants is this breaking out into something bigger and worse.

And Kofi is f***ing useless.

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Offline Newcastle Fan

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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 30 May 2012, 08:55:34 am »
Oh yeh...I realise that tactic. But with the world watching...it's a retarded one. If it is his work then he has sent out a hugely antagonising message. Is he that dumb?

He's all but destroyed any sympathisers he had in the West and now we are closer than ever to attacking. Even if that's still far away...public support of a United Nations offence will have gone through the roof.

If this is the work of Assad...he's shot himself in both feet.

They don't have much Oil, not gonna happen.

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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 30 May 2012, 09:09:57 am »
Oh yeh...I realise that tactic. But with the world watching...it's a retarded one. If it is his work then he has sent out a hugely antagonising message. Is he that dumb?

He's all but destroyed any sympathisers he had in the West and now we are closer than ever to attacking. Even if that's still far away...public support of a United Nations offence will have gone through the roof.

If this is the work of Assad...he's shot himself in both feet.

They don't have much Oil, not gonna happen.


But what it does have is a safer way for the west and cheaper to import oil from the middle east. Huge pipelines going through Syria, Lebanon. Faster and cheaper.