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Tapatalk users, should we remove it?

Yes, it's pointless without board browsing
37 (49.3%)
No, it's still worthwhile for the new post feeds etc
38 (50.7%)

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Author Topic: Forum Service Issues and Updates  (Read 178390 times)

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Offline Shearergol

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2150 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:33:46 pm »
Way better now, actually :thup:

Not for me atm. Very slow and unresponsive when refreshing etc

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2151 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:37:35 pm »
I don't know what else to do. Not sure how many times I have to explain this.

If someone else wants it, feel free to PM me.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2152 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:47:09 pm »
I don't know what else to do. Not sure how many times I have to explain this.

If someone else wants it, feel free to PM me.

Wasn’t having a go, but surely it’s better to know when people have issues? I wasn’t expecting you to just flick a switch like.

Just blame the host and get them to sort it.

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2153 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:49:16 pm »
I'm on here myself, I know when its slow.

It's not the host's problem, we have more than enough capacity available. It's the combination of platforms and the fact everyone refreshes like mad (something the forum software isn't designed for) that makes things difficult.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2154 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:51:17 pm »
I'm on here myself, I know when its slow.

It's not the host's problem, we have more than enough capacity available. It's the combination of platforms and the fact everyone refreshes like mad (something the forum software isn't designed for) that makes things difficult.

What’s changed over the last few months then? More users? What’s the backend DB?

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2155 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:54:09 pm »
Last few months, nothing. We moved host at the start of the year which meant starting nearly everything from scratch. Surely you didn't miss all that?

It's a MySQL database.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2156 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 02:59:43 pm »
Last few months, nothing. We moved host at the start of the year which meant starting nearly everything from scratch. Surely you didn't miss all that?

It's a MySQL database.

Don’t get so defensive, i’m trying to help :-D


Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2157 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 03:01:30 pm »
Sorry. I just genuinely don't know what I'm doing. Literally all of it was Googled.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2158 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 03:05:34 pm »
Sorry. I just genuinely don't know what I'm doing. Literally all of it was Googled.

I’m happy to try and help; know nothing about SMF as such but can certainly look at any database issues as a sql dba. I know we had to do a fair amount of performance tweaking on toontastic back in the day, albeit a different platform.

I’ll PM you in the next few days mate.

Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2159 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 08:16:53 pm »
You got any monitoring stats Dave? Is memory peaking at any point? You say we have capacity, is that server load or RAM?
From the issues we've been having at work,  sounds to me like a bit of an inefficient db querieing. Especially if lots of requests are killng it a little. And the issue with the boards on the app.
I've asked a couple of lads from work just now. Very little to go on but I'll see what they say.
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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2160 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 08:41:35 pm »
How's the indexing on the db, Dave? You know anything about that? And is the caching all set up on all pages?

Aware you're probably pretty much done with f***ing about with it at this point as it's working. But just a couple of suggestions after speaking with my lead dev with little info.
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Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2161 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 08:52:44 pm »
I'd genuinely have to go back through all the notes I made to answer your questions. :lol:

One of the biggest problems is the sheer size of the database, so yeah it's probably to do with how that is set up.

The best thing would be for someone who knows what they're on about to get access to everything, and do some digging. Everything coming through me would be laughably basic.

Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2162 on: Saturday 18 August 2018, 09:05:42 pm »
Yeah sounds about right to me mate. I know little, I'm only around at work when s*** hits the fan and we have some big db issues which we have struggled to sort. We need a dba.

Hopefully sheaerergol can help out. Sounds like exactly what we need. The devs at my place hate mysql as well.
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Offline Yorkie

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2163 on: Monday 20 August 2018, 11:57:50 pm »
I'm on here myself, I know when its slow.

It's not the host's problem, we have more than enough capacity available. It's the combination of platforms and the fact everyone refreshes like mad (something the forum software isn't designed for) that makes things difficult.

Clicking on the title of somebody's post (i.e. the hyperlink to that specific post) effectively serves the same purpose as refreshing. If everybody did that - instead of pushing F5 or clicking the refresh button on the browser - would it bypass the problems that come with folks endlessly and constantly refreshing pages? And, if so, can you send out a PM to all users asking em to try to remember to do that, as a favour?

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2164 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 12:25:15 am »
Can't see why it would make any difference, you're still asking for the same thing.

Offline 54

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2165 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:33:49 am »
Just realized the balls and kits haven't been changed this season. Guess there is literally no change this year really. :lol:

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2166 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 12:27:12 pm »
s***.

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2167 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 10:46:23 pm »
Done, thanks for your help @Rich.

Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2168 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:30:10 pm »
Well done @Dave.
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make

Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2169 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:30:38 pm »
That better have f***ing worked
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Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2170 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:32:30 pm »
Nope. :lol: :lol:

Tapatalk sucks.

Offline Si

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2171 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:33:49 pm »
Seems loads quicker on Tapatalk :thup:
Bearings Straight!

Offline Dave

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2172 on: Tuesday 21 August 2018, 11:49:41 pm »
What does? :lol:

Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2173 on: Wednesday 22 August 2018, 12:13:28 am »
f*** all
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Offline Numbers

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Re: Forum Service Issues and Updates
« Reply #2174 on: Wednesday 29 August 2018, 09:49:27 pm »
Seems broke for me. Taking yonks to get on.

f*** the guests off, they're stealing bandwith.