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« Reply #625 on: Tuesday 30 July 2019, 10:38:38 PM »
There's a new family of Cygnets in Exhibition Park as well, next to Wylam Brewery.
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« Reply #626 on: Monday 9 September 2019, 07:37:57 PM »
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/new-images-reveal-plans-200m-16879018

Honestly would prefer STACK to remain than build that s****.

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« Reply #627 on: Monday 9 September 2019, 08:24:58 PM »
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/new-images-reveal-plans-200m-16879018

Honestly would prefer STACK to remain than build that s****.
Reads very much  like another Gate (which for those from outside the area is a horrid chrome and glass mall which h nobody likes). Keep Stack it's really done well, feels organic and brought life to a dead area.
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Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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« Reply #628 on: Monday 9 September 2019, 08:38:50 PM »
Also just read they're not bringing in tolls for the Tyne Bridge etc. But in the Tyne Bridge's case they're putting in a bus lane and making it one lane. How thick are they.

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“But if someone is sitting back thinking that they are okay and can get into Newcastle in their car, it is actually going to be a lot harder because of the other restrictions we are bringing in.”

What sort of comment is that. The pollution round that area is down the council ineptitude when it comes to traffic management.

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« Reply #629 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 09:39:37 AM »
Also just read they're not bringing in tolls for the Tyne Bridge etc. But in the Tyne Bridge's case they're putting in a bus lane and making it one lane. How thick are they.

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“But if someone is sitting back thinking that they are okay and can get into Newcastle in their car, it is actually going to be a lot harder because of the other restrictions we are bringing in.”

What sort of comment is that. The pollution round that area is down the council ineptitude when it comes to traffic management.

Well, obliviously the answer to the problem of "too much pollution from cars" is to force people to drive further and create more traffic jams  :idiot2:

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« Reply #630 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 09:49:45 AM »
I find it amazing how easy it is to drive into Newcastle and park, I mainly do it on weekends and holidays mind.

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« Reply #631 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 10:22:23 AM »
How dare you drive into Newcastle. Don't you know you should be using public transport that more than likely won't turn up. That more than likely will break down. That more than likely will take longer and cost more than driving yourself. You're the problem Ian. Not the p*ss poor traffic lights or bus and cycle lanes that stand empty and funnel everyone else into one lane.

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« Reply #632 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 10:40:42 AM »
The point of bus lanes is to be empty, and cycle lanes and pedestrianisation have to happen if we are to use cars less in the future. Obviously the public transport should be improved stepwise with the traffic measures, but overall they're things that need to be done to allow for less cars and more public transport.

It's f***ing daft and incredibly wasteful that you see thousands of cars every morning stuck in rush hour traffic, each with zero passengers.
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« Reply #633 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 11:32:25 AM »
The point of bus lanes is to be empty, and cycle lanes and pedestrianisation have to happen if we are to use cars less in the future. Obviously the public transport should be improved stepwise with the traffic measures, but overall they're things that need to be done to allow for less cars and more public transport.

It's f***ing daft and incredibly wasteful that you see thousands of cars every morning stuck in rush hour traffic, each with zero passengers.

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Here's an idea as well, stop building more offices and workspaces inside the city centre.

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« Reply #634 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 12:36:38 PM »
Have they not noticed that there's a motorway at the end of the Tyne Bridge? Not everyone who goes over it is going into the city centre and it's ridiculous to treat the route as if they are.
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« Reply #635 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 12:55:12 PM »
Speaking of which, there's a lack of traffic lights on that motorway until you get to Cowgate (and then for some reason there's about 5 sets on one road no longer than 500 meters apart). There's too much free flowing traffic. Council could do with adding a few traffic lights and maybe a new round about along the way. Could start with adding a new set of lights at the Newcastle end of the Tyne Bridge. That'll stop congestion for sure.

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« Reply #636 on: Monday 16 September 2019, 11:47:38 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-49714597

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« Reply #637 on: Friday 20 September 2019, 11:39:49 AM »
Canny few people at the Climate Strike thing at the Civic Centre. The capo's leading the crowd are dire though. No pyro either.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #638 on: Friday 20 September 2019, 12:35:31 PM »
London one is pretty big, taking a break and going back for the big speeches soon. The student leaders are pretty bad as here as well, they’re trying though.

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« Reply #639 on: Friday 20 September 2019, 02:56:03 PM »
Also just read they're not bringing in tolls for the Tyne Bridge etc. But in the Tyne Bridge's case they're putting in a bus lane and making it one lane. How thick are they.

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“But if someone is sitting back thinking that they are okay and can get into Newcastle in their car, it is actually going to be a lot harder because of the other restrictions we are bringing in.”

What sort of comment is that. The pollution round that area is down the council ineptitude when it comes to traffic management.
You know what makes it worse? The bus lane is going to be on the lane with a height restriction, so double decker buses can’t use it. Also buses, HGV’s, and taxis will still be tolled.

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« Reply #640 on: Friday 20 September 2019, 03:44:14 PM »
Why would they toll busses?
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« Reply #641 on: Wednesday 2 October 2019, 11:47:06 PM »
The point of bus lanes is to be empty, and cycle lanes and pedestrianisation have to happen if we are to use cars less in the future. Obviously the public transport should be improved stepwise with the traffic measures, but overall they're things that need to be done to allow for less cars and more public transport.

It's f***ing daft and incredibly wasteful that you see thousands of cars every morning stuck in rush hour traffic, each with zero passengers.

:thup:

Here's an idea as well, stop building more offices and workspaces inside the city centre.

Correct.

See plenty of angry comments complaining that proposed changes to the city's urban infrastructure are designed as an attack on motorists. Indeed they'd be correct that this is absolutely the case. Making it physically more difficult/frustrating to drive into the city is undoubtedly a necessary step, while another positive step would be to make it more expensive than other options. In an ideal world that is done by making public transport cheaper but that is more difficult to do than to simply ramp up parking charges or introduce tolls. Traffic and congestion only gets worse the easier you make it to drive, as the induced demand creates further congestion, and so on indefinitely. This is proven the world over. Anybody working a sedentary job that doesn't require their car for the job itself should not really in the perfect world be commuting by car. Not only is it bad for the environment, but it's bad for service vehicles, tradesman and the like who actually really do need to use the roads. This is before you even get onto the ludicrous situation of parents driving their kids to school.

People love going on holiday to cities like Amsterdam, Copenhagen and across Eastern Europe and enjoy the public transport/walkability but for some reason want to resist their own home town moving in that direction. It's perhaps an understandable lack of being able to envisage the end result but it's really not a ridiculous notion that the city could look completely different to what it does - you only need to look at photos of Dutch cities in the 1970s/80s to see it was not always the way it is now.

Newcastle has to so often simply deal with the hand it is dealt. In terms of the economy and development opportunities whatever is presented is usually begrudgingly accepted. This means accepting cheap hotels to support a tacky night-time economy, allowing the proliferation of student accommodation in every corner because we rely on the universities, and building a giant ferris wheel because it might be another 20 years before something else comes along to fill the Spillers Quay site. That is unfortunately the reality of being a post-industrial city 4 hours from London and in a planning system dictated by the market - you take what you can get.

Transport infrastructure and the built environment however can actually be controlled if the right vision is there. Newcastle is actually a small city with a suburban sprawl already supported by light rail network - it's a great city for a lot of reasons but with the right investment the geography is there to make it even better. And the more you take the city in the right direction - less congested, cleaner, more walkable, more cycleable, more public and useable space, healthier etc etc - the more likely it is that the type of opportunities and development that are brought forward will improve too. 



Edit: Actually neesy I misread your comment. I disagree. Offices in the city centre isn't a bad thing at all. Indeed moving them out to business parks is probably the worst thing to happen from both a planning/environmental point of view. Most of these places are almost impossible to commute to by anything other than a car, which increases congestion on the roads massively. The labour market is meant for the urban core - it's what drove the very growth of cities throughout history. Only now most jobs don't produce all the negative externalities they did during the industrial revolution and don't require a lot of space making them even more suitable for city centres. 
« Last Edit: Thursday 3 October 2019, 12:17:19 AM by ponsaelius »
Before that why didn't the Wigan fans just walk the the Stewart's, the Stewart's only went up to the touchline, their was a big gap between the end of the Stewart's and the stand they could have walked through.
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« Reply #642 on: Wednesday 2 October 2019, 11:51:41 PM »
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« Reply #643 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 08:14:36 AM »
Great post that Sewelly :thup:

Regarding Newcastle, Pilgrim Street is looking really awful. It's pretty much the first thing to see if you're coming over the bridge into the city centre but it looks so scruffy and run down

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« Reply #644 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 09:26:27 AM »
Love it! f*** cars.
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« Reply #645 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 09:35:44 AM »
Weird flex but okay

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« Reply #646 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 09:40:27 AM »
Lack of integrated public transport is Newcastle's biggest problem; not one that'll change either as they're making fat stacks off mugs like me.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #647 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 10:08:00 AM »
The price of buses is mental, 50% more than London at least.

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« Reply #648 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 10:15:29 AM »
Which makes no sense other than profiteering by the companies. There's at least 3 companies use the stop I use for work plus the Metro. All, I assume, with separate far structures and passes. If I had to go south of the river there'd be more.

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« Reply #649 on: Thursday 3 October 2019, 10:24:23 AM »
Which makes no sense other than profiteering by the companies. There's at least 3 companies use the stop I use for work plus the Metro. All, I assume, with separate far structures and passes. If I had to go south of the river there'd be more.

196 different fares in Tyne and wear apparently.