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« Reply #1325 on: Thursday 21 April 2016, 12:43:39 PM »
It was 10 years last week (April 17th) since he played his last game (and scored his last goal).
Jesus. I feel old.
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« Reply #1326 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:09:49 PM »
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/7146602/Alan-Shearer-Lessons-have-not-been-learned-from-2009-the-same-mistakes-have-been-made-and-the-club-has-got-what-it-deserves.html
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I AM devastated, hurt and angry that my club has been relegated again.

Memories come flooding back from 2009 and it is painful.

I am not looking forward to a season of Championship football and I really feel for the staff who are going to lose their jobs.

But there is no getting away from the fact that this has been on the cards for a long time now.

Lessons have not been learned from 2009, the same mistakes have been made and the club has got what it deserves.

It is like groundhog day.

I watched Sunderland’s 3-0 win over Everton on Wednesday night in a pub with some pals, all of us Newcastle fans.

Some of them didn’t renew their season tickets last year and I’d be surprised if the others do now.

Last time Newcastle went down their average attendance was still huge.

But I suspect that might be different this time around because the people at the top of the club are just not learning.

Under Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s sole intention has been simply to stay in the Premier League and make money.

It hasn’t been to win a trophy or get to Wembley — it has just been about avoiding relegation.

So it is ironic that when the big money comes in next season, Newcastle are not going to be there.

People at the club need to take a long hard look in the mirror and big decisions need to be made. Everyone has questions to answer, starting with the owner.

Before Newcastle’s final-day clash with West Ham last season, Ashley was asked where the responsibility lay for the club’s problems and he replied “my door”.

But he has continued to take a back seat and has instead allowed people to run his football club and make huge, huge errors.

Managing director Lee Charnley has been the man in charge of the club’s managerial appointments. They include last summer’s hiring of Steve McClaren, which did not work at all.

He compounded that mistake by only making a change with ten games to go.

Then you have chief scout Graham Carr who has overseen recruitment and that has been terrible.

Let’s not forget the players. They have not taken responsibility for themselves.

The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap.

So clearly this team has to be ripped up because they do not currently have the characters to do that.

I hope St James’ Park is only going to see Championship football for one season and one season only, like last time they went down, although I can’t confidently predict that will be the case.

It would be brilliant if Rafa Benitez stayed and tried to get Newcastle back up.

But like I have previously said, I would be amazed if he does because he will have offers from all around the world, including the Premier League.

If Newcastle can’t persuade him, they must get a manager in quickly to start the rebuilding process.

And they have to allow him to manage and let him to bring his own players in — not players that are under 26, that they then try to sell on to make a few quid.

I am sure Sam Allardyce will have had a little smile to himself that this has turned out how it has.

It is incredible when you think that Newcastle have now gone down twice since they sacked him in 2008.

I know Sam and he has done a fantastic job at Sunderland.

As much as it pains me to say it, you have to say well done to him and the club.

They made the decision to make a change when it needed to be made.

If only Newcastle had done the same.

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« Reply #1327 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:14:24 PM »
Can't disagree with that tbh. Even if he is an aquaintance of that awful fat f*** c***.

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« Reply #1328 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:24:08 PM »
Shearer's exactly right with that but I find it a tad rich he keeps going on about how long it took to sack McClaren. Even after the Bournemouth game he refused to advocate a managerial change on MOTD. It was left to Martin f***ing Keown to say it for him.

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« Reply #1329 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:27:43 PM »
Shearer's exactly right with that but I find it a tad rich he keeps going on about how long it took to sack McClaren. Even after the Bournemouth game he refused to advocate a managerial change on MOTD. It was left to Martin f***ing Keown to say it for him.
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« Reply #1330 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:28:57 PM »
Shearer's exactly right with that but I find it a tad rich he keeps going on about how long it took to sack McClaren. Even after the Bournemouth game he refused to advocate a managerial change on MOTD. It was left to Martin f***ing Keown to say it for him.

Yep, he's perfectly correct in all he says but why wasn't he suggesting a change in manager in November/December? 
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« Reply #1331 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:49:59 PM »
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I am sure Sam Allardyce will have had a little smile to himself that this has turned out how it has.

It is incredible when you think that Newcastle have now gone down twice since they sacked him in 2008.

I know Sam and he has done a fantastic job at Sunderland.

Go f*** yourself Alan, once and for all.

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« Reply #1332 on: Thursday 12 May 2016, 11:51:36 PM »
Mostly correct accept that Allardyce is f***ing awful and nobody (including Shearer) was calling for McClaren to go.

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« Reply #1333 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 12:02:19 AM »
Mostly correct accept that Allardyce is f***ing awful and nobody (including Shearer) was calling for McClaren to go.
Us silly, deluded geordies seeing through a manager when nobody in the media could until it was far too late. I am gobsmacked.

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« Reply #1334 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 12:13:08 AM »
Just for anyone, journos mainly, pushing the "ironic that it was sacked former manager Sam Allardyce" line, it was a textbook "on the beach" performance from Allardyce's West Ham that confirmed our safety last season under the lip licker. Since Hull couldn't win their last game, it didn't matter at full time, but there were plenty of people bricking it when the game kicked off. One of them being Carver himself, I would imagine.

One season after Allardyce left, West Ham have been challenging for Champions League.

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« Reply #1335 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 12:49:49 AM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

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« Reply #1336 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 12:59:35 AM »
The fight and scrap argument really is lazy PFM bullshit: Put to one side and ignore any actual footballing ability you may have, and just get out there and fight.

What does "fight" even mean nowadays in football?

It's the sort of mentality that has seen us take the field and get thrashed left right and centre by any team who fancied passing the ball. Including our local rivals.

The irony being that when fight and scrap was meant to be a focal point (like most of Pardew's lineups), the players had very little fight in them.

When we ended up run away winners of the Championship in 2010 we certainly didn't do it by fighting and scrapping.
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« Reply #1337 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 08:11:08 AM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

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« Reply #1338 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 08:53:54 AM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

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« Reply #1339 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:16:41 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

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« Reply #1340 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:20:11 PM »
I do wonder about Mitrovic in the championship.  it's not like they have smaller defenders in the lower leagues, you'll need more than just strength to succeed in that division.

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« Reply #1341 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:21:02 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast

look at the championships top strikers recently

Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic

he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

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« Reply #1342 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:25:30 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast

look at the championships top strikers recently

Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic

he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap

I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality.
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« Reply #1343 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:29:07 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast

look at the championships top strikers recently

Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic

he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap

I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality.

what brings you to this conclusion? How promising he has been this season or his skilful attributes

the guy has f*** all to be positive about him. not many would be confident in him getting 20 plus goals as thats what he will need to get in the championship for us to stand a chance
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

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« Reply #1344 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:29:44 PM »
Shearer's favourite manager is Kenny Dalglish. He was instrumental in his appointment.
He likes percentage-playing, attritional managers - and Sam Allardyce is right up his street.

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« Reply #1345 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:33:39 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast

look at the championships top strikers recently

Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic

he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap

I don't agree at all, I think hed be quality.

what brings you to this conclusion? How promising he has been this season or his skilful attributes

the guy has f*** all to be positive about him. not many would be confident in him getting 20 plus goals as thats what he will need to get in the championship for us to stand a chance

He's had plenty of good games this season and has proved a handful. He'll hopefully be playing under a better manager, better team and against weaker opposition. Can easily see him getting 15+ next year.
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« Reply #1346 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:36:15 PM »
'The one thing you have to do in the Championship is to fight and scrap'

I'm sorry but that bit is just plain wrong, it's lazy often said nonsense, the Championship isn't like that anymore. Virtually none of the teams up the top 'fight and scrap'. They're organised and most play decent football on the floor. Look at the three that came up last season, Bournemouth (outplayed us twice), Watford (the same) and Norwich (certainly no scrapers).

Play good attacking football and be good defensively, two things Rafa will get us doing and we'll get out of that league impressively imo.   

The one thing you need in the Championship is a little bit of quality, the standard's generally crap.  Our current squad of bottlers would walk it. 

I think if you look at the teams we put out in promotion season - especially the first half of it -you'll agree that we basically had a team (with exceptions) of grafters with hints of quality. In attack, especially, you won't get anywhere unless the quality is compounded with experience and a pair of bollocks. It's not like the Premier League. Defenders in the football league will f***ing eat Mitrovic alive, for example.

yep totally agree the people who say Mitrovic will be a beast in the championship need to give their head a shake. The clogger centre half will eat him up for breakfast

look at the championships top strikers recently

Deeney, ings,Vokes,Rhodes,Austin,Vardy, Wilson,Oghalo, Gray all of these absolutely streets ahead of mitrovic

he will struggle like f*** in the division imo need to get rid of him asap
How many goals have Vokes, Gray, Wilson and Rhodes scored in the Premier League like?

Mitro, for all his faults, has got 8 in a s**** team and hasn't started every game this season, being benched for McClaren's first couple of games and obviously for much of Rafa's recent spell. He's also only 21.

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« Reply #1347 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 05:37:13 PM »
we will see,

i would put money on that he won't be in the top 6 goalscorer in the league next season
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

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« Reply #1348 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 06:08:23 PM »
The defenders in the Championship might be "bigger and stronger" but they are also shitter than the defenders in the Premier League, which is why they play in a lower league.

Mitro barely played consecutive games all season, he was in and out of the team constantly and still managed to end up with 8 goals. Also playing for one of the worst teams in the division. Yes he missed chances but Vardy, Kane and Aguero all missed chances this season. His conversion rate is actually quite good.

If he is our main striker next season and we're at the top of the Championship, he'll be one of (if not the) top goal scorer in the Championship next season.
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« Reply #1349 on: Friday 13 May 2016, 06:35:20 PM »
So if Mitrovic is our main striker and we're top of the league you predict he'll be one of the top scorers? :lol: