Topic: Climate change

[cp40]

Hasnt global warming been proven to be a misleading conspiracy?

I choose to believe this so i dont have to give a s***.

[Mowen]

TV Sat systems? Never unplugged the telly at the wall, thought it didn't do anything.

Quite good with most little stuff like that though, phone charger never stays on, no spare lights on, barely use the heating (in a block of flats, every f***er else does so it's boiling anyway) even things like not taking plastic bags and re-using the same water bottle for months on end. Feels a bit futile sometimes but it's dead easy to do, the more people that put a bit of effort in the better I guess.

[Stephen927]

I fall asleep with the TV on an hours sleep.

[Parky]

China builds one new coal fired station a day. Don't think not switching your telly off will make much differance.

[madras]

China builds one new coal fired station a day. Don't think not switching your telly off will make much differance.

one a day ?.........from start to finish ? thats some going you know.

[cp40]

China builds one new coal fired station a day. Don't think not switching your telly off will make much differance.

one a day ?.........from start to finish ? thats some going you know.

theres loads of them you know.

[Parky]

Sorry, a month. ha ha...

[LucaAltieri]

Hasnt global warming been proven to be a misleading conspiracy?

I choose to believe this so i dont have to give a s***.

You actually don't have to give a s***. You just need to elect officials that do so they can sort out stuff like this:

China builds one new coal fired station a day. Don't think not switching your telly off will make much differance.

Parky has finally managed to hit upon a kernel of truth among his slagheap of (already debunked) bullshit.

Trying to get people to choose to be "green" is a pointless endeavour for many reasons. It needs to be legislated with the toughest new rules applying to industry.

[Mr Logic]

Hasnt global warming been proven to be a misleading conspiracy?

I choose to believe this so i dont have to give a s***.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/richardblack/2009/12/cop15_questions_about_sex.html

[madras]

you know that deep in the forests of laos where man has yet to step , there will be a large thermostat that controls the temperature for the planet and a few years back some large laosian primate turned it up when he had a bit of a cold.

[Parky]

In 2007, China emitted 1.8 billion tonnes of carbon from fossil fuels, compared with 1.59 billion by the United States.

Russia was third, with 432 million tonnes, followed by India, with 430 million.

[optimistic nit]

no its not. interestingly though going by the earths (comparatively) recent climate cycle we should be on the brink of the next ice age.

[optimistic nit]

Oh...Sorry it's called climate change now, cause it's actually not really getting any hotter at all.

Tell that to the Polar Bears. Climate change is irrefutable, not necessarily something new though - just new to us.

That's right cause it's been much hotter before hasn't it?

No, it was much colder actually.

Go away and do some research.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/lonniepnas.htm

f*** off, that's from a university. They're part of conspiracy, idiot. If you want the truth you need to listen to Alex Jones and David Icke.

Manipulation of evidence:

    I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.

Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up:

    The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."

Quotes out of context, from one institute, from reports that don't alter in any way the VAST body of evidence for man-made climate change.

Years of research vs. pulling stuff from your arse and putting it on youtube. I know which I prefer to follow.

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/12/07/the-real-climate-scandal/

What percentage atmospheric of Co2 is man made?

about 100 ppm (we're at 380 ppm compared to 280 ppm which is what it should be iirc.)

[Parky]

Oh...Sorry it's called climate change now, cause it's actually not really getting any hotter at all.

Tell that to the Polar Bears. Climate change is irrefutable, not necessarily something new though - just new to us.

That's right cause it's been much hotter before hasn't it?

No, it was much colder actually.

Go away and do some research.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/lonniepnas.htm

f*** off, that's from a university. They're part of conspiracy, idiot. If you want the truth you need to listen to Alex Jones and David Icke.

Manipulation of evidence:

    I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.

Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up:

    The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate."

Quotes out of context, from one institute, from reports that don't alter in any way the VAST body of evidence for man-made climate change.

Years of research vs. pulling stuff from your arse and putting it on youtube. I know which I prefer to follow.

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/12/07/the-real-climate-scandal/

What percentage atmospheric of Co2 is man made?

about 100 ppm (we're at 380 ppm compared to 280 ppm which is what it should be iirc.)

Our impact is a fraction of the Co2 coming off the sea and coming out of cows and rotting vegetation?

[Parky]

David Cameron sees the idea for a 'localist green revolution' as an answer to his fear that what he describes as the current top- down climate change agenda is 'in danger of starting to lose people'. Photograph: David Levene

David Cameron has pledged that a Conservative government would from "day one" kickstart £20bn of investment to make millions of homes more energy-efficient in a groundbreaking green partnership with Tesco and Marks & Spencer.

In a Guardian interview to coincide with the critical stage of the Copenhagen summit, the Tory leader reveals the plan to let householders share in the savings made on their power bills with the high street names who provide them with lagging and insulation.

He says he has already signed up a group of local councils and the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, for the scheme which would tackle more than 30% of UK carbon emissions by offering six million households the chance to get £6,500 worth of energy-efficiency measures.

Cameron sees the idea for a "localist green revolution" as an answer to his fear that what he describes as the current top- down climate change agenda is "in danger of starting to lose people".

[Adam^]

Should make it law that all new houses have solar panels and wind turbines, and et rid of the stupid planning s*** you have to go through to put your own turbine up.

[Parky]

Should make it law that all new houses have solar panels and wind turbines, and et rid of the stupid planning s*** you have to go through to put your own turbine up.

This Labour Govt has passed more legislation than any Govt in history. You want more?

[Delima]

In 2007, China emitted 1.8 billion tonnes of carbon from fossil fuels, compared with 1.59 billion by the United States.

Russia was third, with 432 million tonnes, followed by India, with 430 million.

China's population is 4 times the US's. India's population is 8 times the Russia's.

This responsibility-shirking attitude of the first worlds are sickening.

[Delima]

Our impact is a fraction of the Co2 coming off the sea and coming out of cows and rotting vegetation?

It's like saying fossil fuel's impact is not part of our impact.

Cows' carbon footprints are part of human impact.

We do not need to eat cows to survive.

Going vegetarian is the best option any individual can immediately adopt to reduce carbon footprint.

[Delima]

It is very disheartening that some posters here choose to be so self-centered and selfish by trying to dodge his responsibility to reduce carbon footprint.

[GeordieMessiah]

It is very disheartening that some posters here choose to be so self-centered and selfish by trying to dodge his responsibility to reduce carbon footprint.

Deal with it, it's the way of the world.

[Interpolic]

It is very disheartening that some posters here choose to be so self-centered and selfish by trying to dodge his responsibility to reduce carbon footprint.

I go out with a vegetarian and do nothing to discourage it, therefore I'm 50% moral and pure.  Plus I've got hamsters.  I'm getting on towards about 65% moral and pure here all things considered Delima.  Even though I'm a meat-eater.  Sometimes I don't think you consider all the elements.

[Delima]

Deal with it, it's the way of the world.

I am fine with global-warming denialist, or religious nuts who think god will sort everything out.

What I have problem with are those who acknolwedge global warming, yet try to dodge responsibility or blame others for it.

[Delima]

I go out with a vegetarian and do nothing to discourage it, therefore I'm 50% moral and pure.  Plus I've got hamsters.  I'm getting on towards about 65% moral and pure here all things considered Delima.  Even though I'm a meat-eater.  Sometimes I don't think you consider all the elements.

Feel free to take the p*ss out of me. I appreciate that I must appear a total nutter on here, and most likely I am being counter-productive in "promoting" my own cause due to the argumentative nature of mine.

On a more serious note I thank you for not discouraging vegetarianism. We all can do our parts to help this earth - every one needs to live and but we all can try to live a more sustainable and ethical life (be it vegetarianism, taking public transport, using green energy etc). Can we not just extend a little bit more compassion towards the environement, the animals and our fellow humans ?

[Parky]

It is very disheartening that some posters here choose to be so self-centered and selfish by trying to dodge his responsibility to reduce carbon footprint.

I won't be happy till we concrete this planet the f*** over.