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Offline ToonTastic

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #75 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:42:03 AM »
Makes a nice change to see some discussion going on about them and their proposals without the usual snidey pisstaking.

What's your thoughts ?

Time for a Newcastle Online group so this board has it's 1 vote :)

Offline Liam Liam Liam O

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« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:42:26 AM »
Do we know whether NUST have had any form of discussions with Ashley or the club, so that they know he's interested in listening to what they have to say?

Offline Big Geordie

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« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:45:28 AM »
Whether Ashley is prepared to listen or not will depend on how much the NUST have available to buy him out for. I can see him being vindictive over it and squeezing every last penny he can out of them before he agrees to sell. He's a c**t.
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« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:45:43 AM »
Do we know whether NUST have had any form of discussions with Ashley or the club, so that they know he's interested in listening to what they have to say?

I assume if a formal offer was made he'd listen.

Offline Decky

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« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:47:01 AM »
Emailed me too. I wonder if any forums gave out a s*** load of emails? I cant seem to think of any other way they could have got our details ???
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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:47:22 AM »
Makes a nice change to see some discussion going on about them and their proposals without the usual snidey pisstaking.

What's your thoughts ?

Time for a Newcastle Online group so this board has it's 1 vote :)

Maybe so, maybe so.

Offline cp40

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« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:48:23 AM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?

Offline madras

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:48:48 AM »
well intentioned though it is i just can't see them getting 80million then enough goodwill off the banks to cater for an overdraft.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

Offline Decky

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« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:48:55 AM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?


Think its a minimum of 1.5k
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« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:49:03 AM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?


80m

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:49:14 AM »
Whether Ashley is prepared to listen or not will depend on how much the NUST have available to buy him out for. I can see him being vindictive over it and squeezing every last penny he can out of them before he agrees to sell. He's a c**t.

At the end of the day, if he sees cold hard cash in back account and he thinks its enough i think he'll take it.  I'm seriousy leaning towards investing in my club.  I'm sick of greedy bastarads running it who are unaccountable to the fans.

Enough is enough.


Offline Liam Liam Liam O

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:50:13 AM »
Do we know whether NUST have had any form of discussions with Ashley or the club, so that they know he's interested in listening to what they have to say?

I assume if a formal offer was made he'd listen.

It's a massive assumption though given the dislike both sides have for each other, that's why I've asked.


Offline Keefaz

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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:52:20 AM »
If, for example, Barry Moat puts in £60m: will he have the controlling vote? I know it's an extreme example.

Offline Decky

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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:53:33 AM »
On the subject of the NUST, their rebrand is absolute quality compared to what they had before. The new website and logo are brilliant.
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Offline binnsy

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:54:21 AM »
Do we know whether NUST have had any form of discussions with Ashley or the club, so that they know he's interested in listening to what they have to say?

I think they may have had tentative talks,  i was reading something on the NUST forum yesterday and it mentioned that the woman in charge of the financing of the SIPPS has/was in process of doing due dillegence.

Also shows why NUST took a back seat in the protests at the weekend, don't think it would look too good for them to be organising a big protest when they are wanting to open dialogue with Ashley to buy him out.

Offline Big Geordie

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« Reply #90 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:55:01 AM »
I can't imagine the likes of Shepherd or Moat wanting in this - they'll want more control for investing more cash. 1+1 isn't something they would be interested in.

The more and more I think about it, I 'could' invest some of my pension from my days when I worked at the Uni. I'd have to check it out with the wife first, however.
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Offline Liam Liam Liam O

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #91 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:55:25 AM »
If, for example, Barry Moat puts in £60m: will he have the controlling vote? I know it's an extreme example.

No, not under the way it's structured (as I understand it)

You and I could put in £1500 each and have more say in theory.

Offline bealios

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« Reply #92 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:57:54 AM »

I'm not het,

If you have questions there is no point doing it on a forum, why dont the ones asking questions go to the NUST meetings and ask the questions directly.

I've seen the NUST get some bashing on this forum before.

I admit that some of the things they hve done in the past have mde me face/palm a couple of times.



This is only going to succeed if it is open to all NUFC fans. If it is closed to people who can't easily attend the meetings then its a limited group you're aiming at. Hence the request for full detailed information, either in an investment memorandum, or published on a website.

If you ask the detailed financial questions at the meeting, the chances are that the answers will be aspirational i.e. what the guys starting this off would like to happen in an ideal world. Once you get the lawyers, accountants, tax advisors etc. involved you're likely to  get a different answer unfortunately. Which is why you need a proper investment memorandum and business plan approved by the trust lawyers/accountants so that they can sign off working capital provisions etc.


Offline cp40

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« Reply #93 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:59:03 AM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?


Think its a minimum of 1.5k


£1500 is achievable at £10 a piece on the forum.


we should be looking to buy a few shares.

Offline SEMTEX

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« Reply #94 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 11:59:33 AM »
If they send me another email, I'm gonna riot.

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« Reply #95 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 12:01:48 PM »
I can't imagine the likes of Shepherd or Moat wanting in this - they'll want more control for investing more cash. 1+1 isn't something they would be interested in.

The more and more I think about it, I 'could' invest some of my pension from my days when I worked at the Uni. I'd have to check it out with the wife first, however.

It depends on what people are investing for, to make money or actually invest in the football club which is part of our community.

Offline Decky

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« Reply #96 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 12:03:01 PM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?


Think its a minimum of 1.5k


£1500 is achievable at £10 a piece on the forum.


we should be looking to buy a few shares.

I like that idea actually. Maybe we could start a thread similar to the donations thread?
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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #97 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 12:04:49 PM »
What woud we rather be as a club, owned by some faceless coporate types who use the club as a vehicle for advertising and making money or a club thats intension is to play football and help the community around it.


Offline cp40

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« Reply #98 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 12:05:06 PM »
how much are they looking for off each investor?


Think its a minimum of 1.5k


£1500 is achievable at £10 a piece on the forum.


we should be looking to buy a few shares.

I like that idea actually. Maybe we could start a thread similar to the donations thread?


we could start a pledge thread just to gauge interest,..

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Offline TRon

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Re: NUST launch "Yes We Can" Campaign to buy club
« Reply #99 on: Tuesday 10 November 2009, 12:05:35 PM »
Do we know whether NUST have had any form of discussions with Ashley or the club, so that they know he's interested in listening to what they have to say?

I think they may have had tentative talks,  i was reading something on the NUST forum yesterday and it mentioned that the woman in charge of the financing of the SIPPS has/was in process of doing due dillegence.

Also shows why NUST took a back seat in the protests at the weekend, don't think it would look too good for them to be organising a big protest when they are wanting to open dialogue with Ashley to buy him out.

Kudos to the NUST for taking a more professional approach then. This is mostly what sceptics have been suggesting from the off and there's far more chance of being taken seriously if that's the case. I would still prefer Moat or any other local businessman to be involved and if that meant he had more say then so be it. That's more workable IMO, and far more likely to succeed.