Topic: US Election Clusterf*ckstravaganza - Primaries, etc.

[cubaricho]

You'd think so. On the flip side seeing Republicans trying argue why paid for healthcare and education is evil will work very well for him (if he gets the nod).

Unfortunately it won't though - if you just look at my quotes from yesterday that's only the tip of the iceberg. People want their own healthcare and for poor people to suffer. They work hard for their healthcare, if poor people would just get off their ass and work they too could have healthcare! The American Dream!

[Troll]

Bernie is the best positioned to take down Trump in a debate.  Warren's facts and logic, Biden's Grandpa Simpson rambling and Bloomberg's money won't do it.  The only way to take down a old man shouting at you is with another old man shouting back.

[cubaricho]

Wasn't the 'Trump will destroy Bernie in debates' the same weak rhetoric used to de-legitimize Sanders in 2016? So we got... Hillary?

I guess it's time to get Biden in there with his dry cool wit. He'll take down that quick thinking Trump posthaste.

We got Hilary because she wasn't "threatening" the global elite with massive tax payments. Nothing more.

Biden is never the answer.

[cubaricho]

Bernie is the best positioned to take down Trump in a debate.  Warren's facts and logic, Biden's Grandpa Simpson rambling and Bloomberg's money won't do it.  The only way to take down a old man shouting at you is with another old man shouting back.

Ah, the other American Dream.

[Disco]

You'd think so. On the flip side seeing Republicans trying argue why paid for healthcare and education is evil will work very well for him (if he gets the nod).

Unfortunately it won't though - if you just look at my quotes from yesterday that's only the tip of the iceberg. People want their own healthcare and for poor people to suffer. They work hard for their healthcare, if poor people would just get off their ass and work they too could have healthcare! The American Dream!

Yes, well there's also that which is somewhat depressing for anyone reading who isn't American.

Additional Q, can Bloomberg pivot to running as an Independent when he loses the nom?

[Jimburst]

I wonder if the left should stop telling people they're gonna tax the rich, then just get in power and do it anyway? It's not like the right wing ever admit they're going to dismantle the NHS over here, but everyone knows it is their general aim so no one is surprised when they chip away at it. Reckon we need to be more savvy.

[mrmojorisin75]

i mean surely the only worthwhile question in modern western politics is how effective can the rich and dodgy be at manipulating people to vote against their own interests

2016 US vote answer was very
2019 UK GE answer was very

unless they suddenly become s*** at radicalising people who don't understand facebook then it won't matter what two old men shout at each other lets be honest

[cubaricho]

Additional Q, can Bloomberg pivot to running as an Independent when he loses the nom?

As far as I am aware, yeah he can do that. But he has pledged not to and that if he loses the nomination he will pile all his money in to the candidate that does get the nomination.

[Disco]

Additional Q, can Bloomberg pivot to running as an Independent when he loses the nom?

As far as I am aware, yeah he can do that. But he has pledged not to and that if he loses the nomination he will pile all his money in to the candidate that does get the nomination.

Really? I'm shocked. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Tomato Deuce]

He needs to avoid talking about communist regimes for any reason.  Doesn't matter if he has a good point, it'll get used against him regardless.  It's exactly what happened with Corbyn.

Yup. I’m smart enough to see the point he’s trying to make, but your average voter isn’t. And it’s such a nonsensical, dumb little thing to plant your flag on. He doesn’t gain a single voter with the “actually Cuba has done some good things for its people” stance, but he sure as hell alienates Cubans in South Florida with that kind of talk.

[Troll]

Here's @MikeBloomberg using the power of public office to honor Harvey Weinstein.

Want to know how people will be President? Look at how they've used their power in the past. pic.twitter.com/a5RLoAX8IE

— People for Bernie (@People4Bernie) February 24, 2020

[Varadi]

Very good point - mixed response in the comments though

It seems like even if you, personally, have a very robust health insurance plan there might be upside to living in a society where *other people* could get their coronavirus symptoms checked out and treated without fear they’d be risking bankruptcy.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 25, 2020

[QuakesMag]

He needs to avoid talking about communist regimes for any reason.  Doesn't matter if he has a good point, it'll get used against him regardless.  It's exactly what happened with Corbyn.

Yup. I’m smart enough to see the point he’s trying to make, but your average voter isn’t. And it’s such a nonsensical, dumb little thing to plant your flag on. He doesn’t gain a single voter with the “actually Cuba has done some good things for its people” stance, but he sure as hell alienates Cubans in South Florida with that kind of talk.

Agreed it is pretty stupid of him to go down that path. It just irritates me to no end how f***ing myopic most people are. President Camacho would be too good for us.

[Mike]

“Oligarch”
Our office in Youngstown, OH

America deserves better. pic.twitter.com/zDdv2CZzVs

— Team Bloomberg (@Mike2020) February 24, 2020

I'm convinced the person responsible for this tweet is a Sanders voter.

[thomas]

Gotta love considerate vandalism. All that exposed brick but they hit the plywood... pffftttt

— LCMWrites (@LeoCTweets) February 24, 2020

[Mike]

Oh that s*** 100 percent never happened the way they say.

[leffe186]

Nevertheless, way to go, Youngstown!

[Troll]

  A billionaire trying to play the victim card in Flint, MI of all places.

[Tomato Deuce]

Since there was no SNL this week to clown the debate, I just watched this TikTok four hundred times pic.twitter.com/vHQGajijyc

— Blake Montgomery (@blakersdozen) February 24, 2020

[Beren]

I know lives and futures are at stake blah blah blah, but that last Dem debate was entertainment right out the top drawer. When is the next one? I have an NFL-shaped hole in my viewing calendar in the wee hours.

[Troll]

There's probably one tonight.

[cubaricho]

There is one tonight.

[B-more Mag]

We've gotta stop having two year plus election cycles.