Topic: Things you think are sh*t...that you're supposed to like

[Interpolic]

[Kaizero]

There's a vampire council scene coming up that makes it all worth it, imo.

[Troll]

I always find it hard to believe that people miss the rich vein of humour that runs through The Smiths' music like, but i think that they were maybe very much of their time.  To each their own of course, but to write them off as miserable or depressing (as millions have) always makes me think that people maybe haven't really listened that closely, or haven't heard very many songs. Which is fair enough, of course - why would you keep listening if you don't approve? - but the lyrics (and for me the music too) were approximately a billion times more sophisticated than anything the Stone Roses or Oasis ever managed (again, imo) and were shot through with humour and a wonderful wry pathos rather than the misery which people often accuse them off.

Morrissey is something of a gargantuan c*** these days, definitely (although how much of that is a desperate attempt to stay relevant I don't know), but he wasn't then.

I always try to give bands time when first listening to them, I did with the Stone Roses after being a bit iffy about them for a bit and now they're in my top 10 bands. Agree with you on their lyrics, they're mostly nonsense but Oasis? Quite a few tracks on Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory have deeper, sophisticated lyrics but it's mostly the B-sides and non singles; Listen Up, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, Bring It On Down, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Up In The Sky, Fade Away, Talk Tonight, Rockin' Chair to name a few.

But I've tried to listen to the self titled album and Meat Is Murder like 3 times each in the past few months and I always end up turning it off due to just not liking it. Everyone's to their own like you say I suppose.

Just chosen one at random:

"Hey you, up in the sky
Learnin' to fly
Tell me, how high
Do you think you'd go
Before you start falling?

Hey you, up in the tree
You want to be me
Well, that couldn't be
'Cause the people here
They don't hear you calling

How does it feel
When you're inside me?"

Aye pure sophisticated lyricism. They genuinely make me sick.

  f***ing hell.  Might be a racist tosspot now, but Moz is on a different level.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

I always find it hard to believe that people miss the rich vein of humour that runs through The Smiths' music like, but i think that they were maybe very much of their time.  To each their own of course, but to write them off as miserable or depressing (as millions have) always makes me think that people maybe haven't really listened that closely, or haven't heard very many songs. Which is fair enough, of course - why would you keep listening if you don't approve? - but the lyrics (and for me the music too) were approximately a billion times more sophisticated than anything the Stone Roses or Oasis ever managed (again, imo) and were shot through with humour and a wonderful wry pathos rather than the misery which people often accuse them off.

Morrissey is something of a gargantuan c*** these days, definitely (although how much of that is a desperate attempt to stay relevant I don't know), but he wasn't then.

I always try to give bands time when first listening to them, I did with the Stone Roses after being a bit iffy about them for a bit and now they're in my top 10 bands. Agree with you on their lyrics, they're mostly nonsense but Oasis? Quite a few tracks on Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory have deeper, sophisticated lyrics but it's mostly the B-sides and non singles; Listen Up, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, Bring It On Down, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Up In The Sky, Fade Away, Talk Tonight, Rockin' Chair to name a few.

But I've tried to listen to the self titled album and Meat Is Murder like 3 times each in the past few months and I always end up turning it off due to just not liking it. Everyone's to their own like you say I suppose.

Just chosen one at random:

"Hey you, up in the sky
Learnin' to fly
Tell me, how high
Do you think you'd go
Before you start falling?

Hey you, up in the tree
You want to be me
Well, that couldn't be
'Cause the people here
They don't hear you calling

How does it feel
When you're inside me?"

Aye pure sophisticated lyricism. They genuinely make me sick.

I proper love how much you hate Oasis, like. Its easy to see why, like. I mean I still enjoy Definitely Maybe and Masterplan but only for what they are. And like you said, it isn't for any sophisticated lyricism. The older I get though the more I appreciate and I suppose am a little disappointed by, the bands or peole who I used to think made loadsa of mint stuff, didnt. Like The Strokes. f***ing love them to bits but the only really great album was Is This It, unfortunately.

[Jimburst]

Fortunately some of us, even in their tender teenage years could see them for total f***ing frauds.

The Smiths are on another level.

[Jimburst]

Oh and Haydn, listen to The Queen Is Dead, their best album and probably easiest to get into.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Fortunately some of us, even in their tender teenage years could see them for total f***ing frauds.

The Smiths are on another level.

The Smiths are by far and away on another level and Haydn, you should definitely stick with them. f***, try their greatest hits and I think that may be an easier avenue in to their albums.

[Ian W]

Oasis are pretty much the only guitar band I’ve ever listened to. Peak 6th form years, before I discovered hip hop.

[OpenC]

Fortunately some of us, even in their tender teenage years could see them for total f***ing frauds.

The Smiths are on another level.

This, aye

I mean, even just having a spin through the singles Haydn, if you can listen to (for example), Ask, How Soon Is Now and Girlfriend In A Coma and not approve of any of it, then aye, maybe they're not going to be for you.  Fair enough if that's the case, but you genuinely miss the point if you dismiss it as woe-ridden misery as so many folk have before you.  He was funny as f***, he just hid it pretty well.  He was a proto-Jarvis Cocker, a northern lad writing little songs about ordinary folk and their ordinary lives.

Personally speaking, just the first ten or fifteen seconds of How Soon Is Now is always enough to remind me that I'm listening to one of the best bands that ever existed

[HaydnNUFC]

I always find it hard to believe that people miss the rich vein of humour that runs through The Smiths' music like, but i think that they were maybe very much of their time.  To each their own of course, but to write them off as miserable or depressing (as millions have) always makes me think that people maybe haven't really listened that closely, or haven't heard very many songs. Which is fair enough, of course - why would you keep listening if you don't approve? - but the lyrics (and for me the music too) were approximately a billion times more sophisticated than anything the Stone Roses or Oasis ever managed (again, imo) and were shot through with humour and a wonderful wry pathos rather than the misery which people often accuse them off.

Morrissey is something of a gargantuan c*** these days, definitely (although how much of that is a desperate attempt to stay relevant I don't know), but he wasn't then.

I always try to give bands time when first listening to them, I did with the Stone Roses after being a bit iffy about them for a bit and now they're in my top 10 bands. Agree with you on their lyrics, they're mostly nonsense but Oasis? Quite a few tracks on Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory have deeper, sophisticated lyrics but it's mostly the B-sides and non singles; Listen Up, D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, Bring It On Down, Cigarettes & Alcohol, Up In The Sky, Fade Away, Talk Tonight, Rockin' Chair to name a few.

But I've tried to listen to the self titled album and Meat Is Murder like 3 times each in the past few months and I always end up turning it off due to just not liking it. Everyone's to their own like you say I suppose.

Just chosen one at random:

"Hey you, up in the sky
Learnin' to fly
Tell me, how high
Do you think you'd go
Before you start falling?

Hey you, up in the tree
You want to be me
Well, that couldn't be
'Cause the people here
They don't hear you calling

How does it feel
When you're inside me?"

Aye pure sophisticated lyricism. They genuinely make me sick.

It's a song about the ignorance of upper parts of the establishment believing they're the voice of the lowest parts of the working class. I think. My young socialist at times quasi Marxist political views interpret it that way, and I like it, so f*** off.

[HaydnNUFC]

I'll give The Smiths another try at some point over the weekend. Own family think I'm the walking epitome of 90s and late 80s music already so another band of that ilk if I like them won't make any difference.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Strangeways has always been my fav album of theirs. The melody in their music, man. The play between Marrs riffs and tunes and musicality in Morriseys lyrics. They dont even have to be particularly poignant. Like Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Loved Me
 is incredible and says f*** all really. But the two intertwining with each other is amazing. Also, I Started Something I Couldnt Finish and Stop Me If Youve Heard This One Before are personal favs.

[neesy111]

Queen is dead is probably my most favorite album of all time.

[neesy111]

Haven't watched TV in over 4 months.  It's glorious.

cant understand any?

Don't have a TV, but that is probably true if I did have one.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Haven't watched TV in over 4 months.  It's glorious.

cant understand any?

Don't have a TV, but that is probably true if I did have one.

Someone told me recently that the Spanish don't have subtitles for any foreign language programme and they dub everything. And the same voice actors stay with shows for entire careers. So might be pointless you getting a tv until youre fluent.

[neesy111]

Haven't watched TV in over 4 months.  It's glorious.

cant understand any?

Don't have a TV, but that is probably true if I did have one.

Someone told me recently that the Spanish don't have subtitles for any foreign language programme and they dub everything. And the same voice actors stay with shows for entire careers. So might be pointless you getting a tv until youre fluent.

I've got HBO Go (it's good apart from not offering offline downloads).  Just about everything comes with both english and spanish subtitles and dubs/original audio.

[Si]

Hmm I've watched the first 4 eps and I'm pretty disappointed so far. 

Rate the film so highly and have found this underwhelming.

Worth watching the rest?

I think so definitely.

[kingkerouac]

I remember coming back from living in Greece in 83.
The first night I was back I listened to Peel's show for the first time in a year.
There were 2 standouts - a new band from Manchester called the Smiths, and an amazing trio from Scotland called the Cocteau Twins.
Both were/are sublime and a great sign that UK music was in such good health at the time.

[leffe186]

I remember coming back from living in Greece in 83.
The first night I was back I listened to Peel's show for the first time in a year.
There were 2 standouts - a new band from Manchester called the Smiths, and an amazing trio from Scotland called the Cocteau Twins.
Both were/are sublime and a great sign that UK music was in such good health at the time.

I reckon it's worth a visit to Grangemouth for anyone who loves/loved the Cocteau Twins. One of the weirdest f***ing towns in the UK: I can't work out if it's miraculous or inevitable that something like the Cocteau Twins came from that.

[thomas]

Aubrey Plaza

[tmonkey]

James Acaster. Sick of that prick and his "I'm an grumpy miserably petty toddler in an adult body" routine.

[Disco]

Talks through his kenk n all. Classic midlands. Bland.

[Si]

Aubrey Plaza

Tommy no. No.

[Haz]

Jaffa cakes.

[Froggy]

James Acaster. Sick of that prick and his "I'm an grumpy miserably petty toddler in an adult body" routine.

Talks through his kenk n all. Classic midlands. Bland.

Wrong.