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Offline Raconteur

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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9675 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 02:14:58 pm »
Seems like a role for someone with lots of contacts at lower league clubs, which sounds nothing like a (virtual) one-club man who can ride a bike while eating an apple.
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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9676 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 02:27:45 pm »
Seems like a role for someone with lots of contacts at lower league clubs, which sounds nothing like a (virtual) one-club man who can ride a bike while eating an apple.

Role will have next to nothing to do with discussing things with other clubs. The role as it is in football is essentially keeping the loan players in touch with the club make sure they're eating right, sleeping right, don't have any problems etc. Working on anything they need to do so from a development perspective. Some teams (Chelsea for example) create a WhatsApp group for all their loan players to keep in touch and share experiences etc. Has definitely become more common the last couple of years.

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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9677 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 03:11:06 pm »
Seems like a role for someone with lots of contacts at lower league clubs, which sounds nothing like a (virtual) one-club man who can ride a bike while eating an apple.

Role will have next to nothing to do with discussing things with other clubs. The role as it is in football is essentially keeping the loan players in touch with the club make sure they're eating right, sleeping right, don't have any problems etc. Working on anything they need to do so from a development perspective. Some teams (Chelsea for example) create a WhatsApp group for all their loan players to keep in touch and share experiences etc. Has definitely become more common the last couple of years.

If you're doing it properly, then a proactive loans manager is researching clubs who need positions filled by players he wants to send out. He wants to know if the manager is progressive or a Proper Manager. He wants to know if he's going to be training at... somewhere better than where our reserves train.

After the player goes out he needs to monitor their progress, sure. But the role was set up after the failure of several loan spells. They need someone to get our youngsters starting at the best clubs possible for each player. So they absolutely should have good contacts at lower league level. And that's not Shola. If they want to hire a guy who gives loan players a hug once a month, then don't call him a loans coordinator.
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Offline morla84

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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9678 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 05:51:52 pm »
Shoal has gone from Mackem Slayer to Loan Arranger 😎 unleash the :lol:s folks

Offline Greg

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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9679 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 06:10:26 pm »
Seems like a role for someone with lots of contacts at lower league clubs, which sounds nothing like a (virtual) one-club man who can ride a bike while eating an apple.

Role will have next to nothing to do with discussing things with other clubs. The role as it is in football is essentially keeping the loan players in touch with the club make sure they're eating right, sleeping right, don't have any problems etc. Working on anything they need to do so from a development perspective. Some teams (Chelsea for example) create a WhatsApp group for all their loan players to keep in touch and share experiences etc. Has definitely become more common the last couple of years.

If you're doing it properly, then a proactive loans manager is researching clubs who need positions filled by players he wants to send out. He wants to know if the manager is progressive or a Proper Manager. He wants to know if he's going to be training at... somewhere better than where our reserves train.

After the player goes out he needs to monitor their progress, sure. But the role was set up after the failure of several loan spells. They need someone to get our youngsters starting at the best clubs possible for each player. So they absolutely should have good contacts at lower league level. And that's not Shola. If they want to hire a guy who gives loan players a hug once a month, then don't call him a loans coordinator.

How do you know Shola doesn't have good contacts?
He may well have a few from his time at Fleetwood and Notts County but I doubt this role is about the contact book (though of course I am sure they will be useful), and he would be able to make the relevant contacts anyway. It is likely more about research like you alluded to.
 
Shola is a clever and articulate bloke, and is probably better placed for a role like this than the majority of our ex players. I am not sure why people assume what he achieved (or didn't) as a player has much or a relation to his competence for this job.

Good luck to him.

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« Reply #9680 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 07:41:13 pm »
Aye, Shola is canny, cares and talks to people. I know that sounds daft, but there's many involved with NUFC that don't even talk to other people they work with simply because they're not 'FIRST TEAM'.

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Re: The Reserves & Academy Thread - NUFC win Hong Kong Soccer 7s
« Reply #9681 on: Yesterday at 03:09:08 am »
I see the kids are in the checkatrade trophy again  :cool:
Ashley please just f*** off