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Offline Gottlob

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« Reply #13200 on: Sunday 22 September 2019, 10:07:35 PM »
I struggle to figure out how seriously they're all taking it: I like all of the people involved and I do think it's a good idea at a fallow point in the season, but I cringe a little watching the players coach each other at the change of ends, and I wonder if it could be turned into even more of a spectacle whereas they seem keen to portray it as a genuine sporting event.

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« Reply #13201 on: Sunday 20 October 2019, 05:51:43 PM »
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Offline neesy111

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« Reply #13202 on: Sunday 20 October 2019, 05:59:41 PM »
Incredible what's he's done.  Been shades of the old Murray this week :)

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #13203 on: Friday 22 November 2019, 01:34:52 AM »
This Davis Cup format is terrible.  Nevermind putting it in Madrid in the end of November when it's cold, the scheduling is too crammed.  Comical the US match finished at 4am.

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13204 on: Saturday 23 November 2019, 11:43:35 PM »
It's a crime. They've stolen the Davis Cup from the people and created yet another corporate event in a tennis calendar full of them. The beauty of the Davis Cup was that it brought tennis to places that don't normally get to host the highest level of the game. It offered affordable tickets to see the top ATP players in the world playing best of five sets tennis.

The nonsense that has been on the TV the past week that they are calling the Davis Cup is an absolute mockery of an event with over a decade of history. What makes it even more comical is that they have a similarly unnecessary ATP Cup replacing the Australian Open satellite tournaments and the laughable Laver Cup all on the calendar now. The only answer is to hit reset and go back to the Davis Cup as it was. Some things shouldn't be messed with.

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #13205 on: Sunday 24 November 2019, 12:35:49 AM »
It's a crime. They've stolen the Davis Cup from the people and created yet another corporate event in a tennis calendar full of them. The beauty of the Davis Cup was that it brought tennis to places that don't normally get to host the highest level of the game. It offered affordable tickets to see the top ATP players in the world playing best of five sets tennis.

The nonsense that has been on the TV the past week that they are calling the Davis Cup is an absolute mockery of an event with over a decade of history. What makes it even more comical is that they have a similarly unnecessary ATP Cup replacing the Australian Open satellite tournaments and the laughable Laver Cup all on the calendar now. The only answer is to hit reset and go back to the Davis Cup as it was. Some things shouldn't be messed with.

Agreed.

Btw fair play to the LTA for paying for 950 tickets which cost them £60k.  I live in Madrid but didn't get told told in time to apply.

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« Reply #13206 on: Friday 6 December 2019, 02:25:46 PM »
Wozniacki retiring after the Aus Open

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #13207 on: Monday 13 January 2020, 06:53:13 PM »
Some turnaround for Dan Evans after being banned for Cocaine.  British No. 1, seeded at the Aus Open and up to career high ranking of 33.

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« Reply #13208 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 01:44:37 PM »
Federer on the brink of being knocked out.  Down 7-4 in 5th set tie break.

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« Reply #13209 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 01:50:26 PM »
Federer on the brink of being knocked out.  Down 7-4 in 5th set tie break.

Well that woke him up, ended up winning.

Offline Kevo

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« Reply #13210 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 05:27:52 PM »
Once again ladies tennis has a large number of seeds being knocked out in the early stages of a Grand Slam.

S.Williams & Osaka gone today - albeit Osaka did play Coco who looks set to be a machine for years to come considering she's just 15. Her mental strength must be ridiculous to be able to handle the pressure of playing these big names never mind beating them infront of thousands of spectators.

Offline Pip

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« Reply #13211 on: Thursday 30 January 2020, 09:49:36 AM »
He has a mental block in tie-breakers against Djokovic. Djokovic is a mental giant.

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13212 on: Thursday 30 January 2020, 10:49:03 AM »
He looks unable to compete against Djokovic any more over the best of five sets on courts like this. That first set was the kitchen sink getting thrown at Djokovic early on. Had he gotten to 5-1, which he should have, then it might've created a bit interest. But as soon as Djokovic fought off those break points, the aces and big serves dried up and Djokovic's return game took over.

Stats on the first set saw Federer hit 26 winners and 19 unforced errors against Djokovic's 10/11.

I may be wrong but I think the last time Federer beat Djokovic at a slam was Wimbledon back in 2012 when he went on to beat Murray in the final. And the last time he beat him on a hard court at a slam was the US Open in 2009. Can't even think when Federer has beaten Djokovic here. Possibly before Novak even won a slam.

Offline Pip

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« Reply #13213 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:16:01 AM »
Thiem is one set away from dethroning Djokovic.

Offline Pip

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« Reply #13214 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:18:38 AM »
Feeling pretty good that I’ve been on the Thiem hype train for the last few years. He has always had the physical tools, and now he looks mentally stable enough in the big points, big moments.

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13215 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 11:37:55 AM »
The shot clock is ruining tennis for me in the same way VAR ruins football for others. There's no consistency in how it operates at all. The other day Nadal was getting over 45 seconds between points on a 25 second shot clock but today Djokovic was penalised twice in a game. If they want to have a shot clock then it has to operate universally and not when the umpire decides it's applicable.

That scenario earlier where Djokovic lost his first serve on break point was farcical. Whatever rubbish will they think of next?

I just hope this isn't a sign of the future. If we let these people making up the rules have their own way they'll be cancelling best of five at Grand Slams and ATP events will be played in the Fast Four format. They've already ruined the Davis Cup and created a silly clone in place of the excellent ATP satellite tournaments. Leave it alone.

Offline Shak

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« Reply #13216 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:09:50 PM »
Feeling pretty good that I’ve been on the Thiem hype train for the last few years. He has always had the physical tools, and now he looks mentally stable enough in the big points, big moments.

He’s pretty much fallen apart since this, well done. :lol:

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13217 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:09:59 PM »
Feeling pretty good that I’ve been on the Thiem hype train for the last few years. He has always had the physical tools, and now he looks mentally stable enough in the big points, big moments.

Suddenly this is looking a lot less likely. That was an absolutely horrible last game where he tried to go big when he didn't need to and it gave Djokovic the break. Still time to turn it around but as per usual Djokovic appears to have returned from the brink.

Offline Pip

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« Reply #13218 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 12:51:01 PM »
Djokovic is the greatest mentally. He rarely gives away points at the end of sets. Too f***ing good. Big missed opportunity for Thiem.

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13219 on: Sunday 2 February 2020, 01:53:49 PM »
Once the fourth set was gone it was done. As you say Djokovic is mentally indestructible. If you allow him to build any momentum at all he'll disappear over the horizon.

Expect him to shut down now. I don't see him taking anything particularly seriously until Roland Garros. After that it'll be Wimbledon, Olympics, US Open and close down again.

Offline Pip

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« Reply #13220 on: Monday 3 February 2020, 03:38:29 PM »
Feeling pretty good that I’ve been on the Thiem hype train for the last few years. He has always had the physical tools, and now he looks mentally stable enough in the big points, big moments.

He’s pretty much fallen apart since this, well done. :lol:

:lol: I didn’t mean it!

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #13221 on: Wednesday 26 February 2020, 01:35:21 PM »
Sharapova retires.

Offline O'Neill

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« Reply #13222 on: Monday 2 March 2020, 01:43:37 PM »
Sharapova retires.

Despite the fact that she won all four of the Grand Slams I think the last three or four years pretty much extinguished her relevance on the global stage as a tennis star. The doping suspension probably could have been overshadowed had she returned to the court and had a few positive seasons where it felt like she was giving back something. But the numerous injuries, poor handling of her PR and the losses have significantly reduced her drawing power at WTA events and Slams.

I remember covering the French Open in 2012 and there were fifteen photographers squeezed into the photography pit on Suzanne Lenglen court just to get a few snaps of her early morning warm up on the day of her first match. At that point she was absolute money and the WTA sold tickets on her name.

The way in which she has departed both feels fitting and awkward at the same time. Which probably isn't a coincidence as it matches the public personality she has shown over the years. The fact that she has announced her exit through celebrity magazines somewhat demonstrates that her career was always viewed by her as just being part of the Sharapova brand and business. Tennis was a vehicle to making her a star that transcended the court and she used that platform to maximise the profits from her own brand. There was no announcement of her retirement ahead of time. No retirement tour, no warm applause from a full house of spectators following her final match. Just a quick, cold exit to match her personality. Fairly unsurprising I guess because the only time she was ever really engaging was when she was promoting a product she wanted to sell to her fans/customers.

It will be interesting to see how tennis remembers Maria Sharapova. A player who won everything (Slams, WTA Finals, Fed Cup, Olympic Silver medal, World No 1). She's had a Hall of Fame career and yet it feels like she should have achieved a lot more. Maybe it's just my opinion of her that's clouded by my view of her personality and business approach but her departure doesn't feel like landmark milestone in tennis to me and it really should given her global popularity.

On another note I feel that we should be celebrating as a leap year has brought a Heather Watson tournament win.