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« Reply #12900 on: Thursday 25 April 2019, 10:53:46 am »
ATP Tour Finals moving from London to Turin from 2021

It's an event that has been plagued in recent years by ticket touting. With ViaGoGo having a physical office opposite the O2 Arena and being the 'official resale ticket partner' of the tournament it has been open to exploitation. Basically their staff were buying up blocks of tickets for group games then trying to push them on at inflated prices when it came to sessions involving top name players. Hence why you would see whole sections of empty seats all week.

I'm not sold on Turin as the new venue though. It doesn't have the global accessibility that London does and that was always a key component in keeping the event in London. There's a suggestion to me that the ATP has had an assurance of some sort of money coming their way to have selected Turin. I suspect it will be a short stay before they move on again.

Pay purse for tournament is going to be much higher, didn't realise WTA finals paid more than the mens.

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« Reply #12901 on: Thursday 25 April 2019, 11:35:11 am »
I think it's because the WTA pay losers in round robin matches as well as about twice as much in the doubles.

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« Reply #12902 on: Monday 13 May 2019, 10:14:41 pm »
Looking like Djokovic will be massive favorite for Roland Garros.  Nadal is on the decline and I've got no idea why Federer has decided to play on clay this year.

Went to night session last Monday at the Madrid Open, will post pictures later.

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« Reply #12903 on: Tuesday 14 May 2019, 07:38:09 am »
Madrid is never a great tournament to judge Roland Garros by. The altitude makes the court play way quicker than it does in Paris. Usually find that Rome gives a better indication of where players are at. That being said it's Djokovic and he should be the favourite at pretty much every event.

The golden generation is really coming to an end now. I think Federer has posted his 'roadmap to retirement' and he's already starting that goodbye tour. He's going to play the clay courts this year to let the fans in those places see him one last time. Next year it will be all business as he looks to have a go at Tokyo 2020 chasing the elusive Olympic gold medal. After that, maybe he'll run things down for a final Wimbledon appearance at 2021, bowing out on the lawns at SW19 on what would be a huge day.

After having sat chatting to the bloke for 15 minute the other year at Andy Murray: Live I gained a huge amount of respect for him and I really would like to think he'll be able to go out on his own terms. Not always so in sport, particularly tennis but it feels like the Federer show should have a huge finale on the biggest stage.

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« Reply #12904 on: Tuesday 14 May 2019, 08:42:01 am »
Madrid is never a great tournament to judge Roland Garros by. The altitude makes the court play way quicker than it does in Paris. Usually find that Rome gives a better indication of where players are at. That being said it's Djokovic and he should be the favourite at pretty much every event.

The golden generation is really coming to an end now. I think Federer has posted his 'roadmap to retirement' and he's already starting that goodbye tour. He's going to play the clay courts this year to let the fans in those places see him one last time. Next year it will be all business as he looks to have a go at Tokyo 2020 chasing the elusive Olympic gold medal. After that, maybe he'll run things down for a final Wimbledon appearance at 2021, bowing out on the lawns at SW19 on what would be a huge day.

After having sat chatting to the bloke for 15 minute the other year at Andy Murray: Live I gained a huge amount of respect for him and I really would like to think he'll be able to go out on his own terms. Not always so in sport, particularly tennis but it feels like the Federer show should have a huge finale on the biggest stage.

I thought it looked a lot faster than normal clay.

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« Reply #12905 on: Tuesday 14 May 2019, 10:41:14 am »
Nadal hasn't looked great this year to be fair. Normally he wins Monte Carlo and Barcelona but it's a bit early to suggest he's vulnerable. He lost last year in Madrid to Thiem and the year previous to Thiem in Rome. He's only lost the 1 set at Roland Garros in the last two years and he's swept Dominic Thiem aside in straight sets both years after losing to him in the warmup Masters events.

What will be interesting is how much of a factor the changes at Roland Garros make. The Philippe Chatrier court has been rebuilt in the last year to modernise it in preparation for installing a roof before the 2020 tournament. It's been a Nadal stronghold throughout his career but unlike at Wimbledon and the US Open, the changes in Paris are on a much bigger scale. Having less than a year to rebuild the court I do wonder if they'll have had time to lay the clay out far enough in advance of the tournament starting. There have been plenty of tournaments that have put the clay down last minute leading to a complete change in the way the ball bounces and how slippy the court is under foot.

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« Reply #12906 on: Thursday 16 May 2019, 05:45:10 am »
I love Kyrgios.

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« Reply #12907 on: Thursday 16 May 2019, 02:55:58 pm »
Just completely flipped at the start of the third set there. Defaulted a game after getting broken following a throw of the racquet, kick of a water bottle then launching a chair onto the court. Not even sure if he was DQed or just decided he'd had enough and walked off. Mental.

*Edit - Apparently the tournament referee was called by the umpire so it has gone down as a default by disqualification.

That's bad news for Kyrgios as he'll forfeit all prize money, lose his tournament hotel expenses and then face a fine on top of that. Given he has a record then he'll likely face a bigger investigation with the potential of further fines or a ban. Not sure what the stance is regarding ATP rules and ITF events but there's a real possibility that he could miss Roland Garros and Wimbledon depending on the findings of the investigation. He probably won't be 'that bothered' mind.
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« Reply #12908 on: Thursday 16 May 2019, 04:49:04 pm »
I thought Kyrgios was a veteran just milking whatever he could from his career, had no idea he was only 24. Time to grow up I suppose.

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« Reply #12909 on: Saturday 18 May 2019, 09:44:15 am »
Just completely flipped at the start of the third set there. Defaulted a game after getting broken following a throw of the racquet, kick of a water bottle then launching a chair onto the court. Not even sure if he was DQed or just decided he'd had enough and walked off. Mental.

*Edit - Apparently the tournament referee was called by the umpire so it has gone down as a default by disqualification.

That's bad news for Kyrgios as he'll forfeit all prize money, lose his tournament hotel expenses and then face a fine on top of that. Given he has a record then he'll likely face a bigger investigation with the potential of further fines or a ban. Not sure what the stance is regarding ATP rules and ITF events but there's a real possibility that he could miss Roland Garros and Wimbledon depending on the findings of the investigation. He probably won't be 'that bothered' mind.

He just wants to pack in the petulant f***er. He has to have serious issues.

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« Reply #12910 on: Saturday 18 May 2019, 10:00:59 pm »
https://www.atptour.com/en/news/tsitsipas-rome-2019-saturday-reaction

Tsitsipas suggesting similar to what I posted above about the speed of the court in Madrid being favourable when playing Nadal on clay. There were a couple of shots today where Tsitsipas stepped in to hit a winner only to find Nadal making the return for a winner of his own. If I remember rightly they used to actually play Rome before Madrid but then changed it because the players wanted to play in conditions similar to Roland Garros in the final event before arriving in Paris.

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« Reply #12911 on: Tuesday 28 May 2019, 11:40:16 am »
Watching Alexander Zverev this morning you can see why he's only ever once reached the QF of a grand slam. A phenomenal talent that has absolutely all the shots but tactically he's very green. For a guy that's 6'6 with an incredible ability to defend and some of the most solid ground strokes you will see he simply should not be expending energy playing the game from a mile behind the baseline trying to counter-attack. It's very much like a young Andy Murray. Hugely frustrating to watch as Zverev has all the tools to be able to mix things up and play a bit more like Del Potro does with a big serve and crushing shots to shorten points. Trying to run the ball down in these early rounds is inevitably what costs him going into the second week where opponents get tougher to break down and he simply runs out of gas.

Hopefully he learns sooner rather than later as there's so much potential for him to become the next big star but it's going to require him to be more aggressive and get on the front foot.

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« Reply #12912 on: Saturday 1 June 2019, 03:02:19 pm »
The lineup for R4 is the best in years.

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« Reply #12913 on: Sunday 2 June 2019, 09:09:03 pm »
These young players simply don't have it yet. Wawrinka has been bang average since his return from injury but still able to see of Tsitsipas in five sets. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Zverev gets done by Fognini tomorrow. Even if he does get through he'll be seen away by Djokovic in the QF.

Will be interesting to see how Federer vs Wawrinka goes in the QF. More favourable surface for Stan but he may be empty after that five setter. Could be a stellar QF line-up actually.

Djokovic vs Zverev/Fognini
Thiem vs Del Potro
Wawrinka vs Federer
Nishikori vs Nadal

Would love to see Del Potro get another slam but I don't think he has the legs for it. Not here at Roland Garros anyway.

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« Reply #12914 on: Monday 3 June 2019, 12:46:59 am »
That would be the best QF lineup in a long time. Hope we get it. Tsitsipas looks so much stronger than last year. More time in the gym this year and I feel he’ll be able to win next year. He has an all-court game.

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« Reply #12915 on: Monday 3 June 2019, 02:40:10 pm »
Rather sad but Struff has probably been the best competition to face any of the top three thus far. And he was seen away swiftly in straight sets there by Djokovic.

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« Reply #12916 on: Monday 3 June 2019, 02:43:18 pm »
Watched a little bit of Nishikori. He's not going to trouble Nadal here. Quite simply doesn't hit the ball hard enough and with the pace of the court Nadal will just run everything down. Would need an awful performance from Nadal and a great one from Nishikori to see an upset.

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« Reply #12917 on: Tuesday 4 June 2019, 02:37:03 pm »
Federer 0/8 on BPs so far. Won the first set but down a break in the 2nd. Wawrinka starting to dominate the rallies.

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« Reply #12918 on: Tuesday 4 June 2019, 04:21:53 pm »
Federer 0/8 on BPs so far. Won the first set but down a break in the 2nd. Wawrinka starting to dominate the rallies.

Federer will win that. Stan will run out of gas after that five set match with Tsitsipas. Would be a massive surprise to me if it goes to a fifth set.

More worrying is over on Chatrier Nadal is on cruise control against Nishikori. 6-1, 6-1, 3-1 after a little more than an hour and a half. Almost embarrassing for a quarter-final.

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« Reply #12919 on: Tuesday 4 June 2019, 04:53:19 pm »
Stan saving a ton of BPs. Great match so far.

Bad timing for this rain delay. The quality of the match was really good.

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« Reply #12920 on: Tuesday 4 June 2019, 09:46:34 pm »
Murray looking for a farewell year at Wimbledon this year? Doubles at Queens then Wimbledon and quit? Can't see him limping onto the US and then into 2020 unless he can do Wimbledon 2020.

Can also see Fed announcing a farewell tour for 2020, with the finale at the Olympics chasing the one title he doesn't have
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« Reply #12921 on: Tuesday 4 June 2019, 09:53:07 pm »
Murray looking for a farewell year at Wimbledon this year? Doubles at Queens then Wimbledon and quit? Can't see him limping onto the US and then into 2020 unless he can do Wimbledon 2020.

Can also see Fed announcing a farewell tour for 2020, with the finale at the Olympics chasing the one title he doesn't have

No, he's only using doubles as way to build up fitness without putting too much pressure on himself.  His last surgery was a major success and he's pain free for first time since 2016.  The only way he would have played this year is if he didn't have a chance of fully competing again.

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« Reply #12922 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 05:09:56 am »
A blockbuster semifinal lineup today.

Heart says Federer in 4, Thiem in 5.
Head says Nadal in 3, Djokovic in 4.

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« Reply #12923 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 11:09:04 am »
Nadal in 3, Djokovic in 3. Short afternoon.

Watched ten minutes of Konta. She's absolutely awful. Inability to hit anything other than a forehand. Doesn't know when to approach the net and takes no control of points. Unless she changes drastically she's done.

Feel the urge to comment on Zverev while I'm here. Needs to get rid of his father as a coach and listen solely to Lendl. The signs are that the Zverevs are money grabbers. They take the huge appearance fees that he demands and go to all the atp250 events keen to have a star in the draw to help sell tickets. Zverev has now played 9 straight weeks on clay. That's awful schedule management for a player not just in the top 10 but expected to challenge at slams. He'll never even threaten the way he's being managed.

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« Reply #12924 on: Friday 7 June 2019, 11:56:43 am »
Konta out. She really blew that