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Offline sadnesstan

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Re: Gaza & Israel
« Reply #2350 on: Thursday 28 February 2019, 11:03:02 PM »
Absolute genius to put a Palestinian remainer on QT.

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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2352 on: Thursday 22 August 2019, 11:40:12 PM »
That was in 2015?! :lol:

Thought he said it last year sometime. :blush:

But aye, that was during his whole reframing of the Holocaust, that it was the Palestinians that done it.  Basically, got in old Adolf's ear, corrupted him.
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« Reply #2353 on: Thursday 22 August 2019, 11:56:43 PM »
Ah, I got snookered. Somebody posted on Twitter.

Still, what an odious c***.

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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2355 on: Tuesday 10 September 2019, 07:21:06 PM »
Ah well, they played the two state solution game for 70 years, pretty much no point pretending anymore.

Irony is, this will be the death of his pure state.  At some point, they're going to have to treat all citizens equally, and secularise the state.  If only mad Bibi had kept Israel within its own borders, he could have done what he wants for all time.  Removing Palestine will be their undoing.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2357 on: Monday 21 October 2019, 07:42:40 PM »
Yay, slightly less of an arsehole might get in.  Win!
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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« Reply #2358 on: Sunday 27 October 2019, 02:27:17 PM »
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/netanyahu-israel-peace-palestine-conflict-hamas-bombs-history-a9171511.html

First time in years, if not actually ever, I've seen a non-Israeli media platform explicitly connect Bibi to the assassination of Rabin. 

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Although easier to paint “the other” as the guilty party, it’s more painfully honest, especially for promoting healing of that trauma, to acknowledge at least partial Israeli responsibility for those suicide bombings. They took place in a climate of toxic right-wing incitement deliberately nurtured by Netanyahu, who participated in a notorious Zion Square rally, or Ra’anana Junction protest against the Oslo Accords where he marched under a coffin bearing the name of former Prime Minister Yitzchak Rabin. The protest preceded the murder of Rabin (z”l) by a right-wing fanatic, and Likud’s ascent to power.

This is the problem with trying to work with him and his party, they essentially took over the country with violence yet we've to pretend to be their best friend simply because it's Israel.

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That trio of Goldstein, Amir and Bibi succeeded, using extremist, terrorist means, to prevent peace to this day.

Why is this relevant? Because if over the years the Israeli public had been more fully exposed to their subversion of peace, we might have learned what Dr Abdel Aziz Al-Rantisi, then Hamas’ deputy to Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, told Chris Hedges, heading the New York Times Middle East bureau: Hamas was so outraged by the 1994 Hebron massacre that it changed its strategy. It started targeting Israeli civilians.

He was Trumpian before Trump.

For mega irony - https://www.timesofisrael.com/son-of-slain-pm-rabin-lashes-out-at-netanyahu-over-incitement-says-ag-must-act/

Bibi and his party/people calling other Israelis/jews Nazis, back when it wasn't antisemitic to do so.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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« Reply #2359 on: Thursday 21 November 2019, 05:39:51 PM »
Bibi set to be indicted for corruption :thup:

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« Reply #2360 on: Monday 23 December 2019, 08:00:54 PM »
Shut it down, The Onion :lol: You will never top this. 

Nah f*** this, worst poster nominations are back.
One year I deliberately made no posts in the general chat thread so I couldn’t be nominated for it, I still f***ing won.

Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2361 on: Monday 23 December 2019, 09:05:45 PM »
Never saw that coming.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline neesy111

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« Reply #2362 on: Tuesday 28 January 2020, 09:10:15 PM »
New peace plan proposed, apparently the "deal of the century" according to Bibi.  :anguish:

Offline QuakesMag

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« Reply #2363 on: Tuesday 28 January 2020, 09:14:56 PM »
This deal of the century is like Marcus Crassus running the fire brigade.
To crush your enemies while wearing a loincloth and bandolier, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

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« Reply #2364 on: Tuesday 28 January 2020, 10:37:03 PM »
Just shows are f***ed this is, when they think this land is an acceptable solution

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Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2365 on: Tuesday 28 January 2020, 10:44:42 PM »
Genuinely surprised they managed to get Bibi to agree to the West Bank solution, he wants it all. He needs it all if he's to keep winning elections. Based much of the last 5 years on rolling back the two state solution. I think they probably know it's a non-starter of a deal anyway, nothing but a "we tried" attempt.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline QuakesMag

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« Reply #2366 on: Tuesday 28 January 2020, 10:58:32 PM »
Gives the perfect excuse to really bring the hammer down. Wheel out an offer that cannot possibly be accepted, then take the moral high ground as a Third Intifada threatens to erupt.
To crush your enemies while wearing a loincloth and bandolier, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

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« Reply #2367 on: Tuesday 26 May 2020, 11:29:13 PM »
Turns out the above would’ve been a lot better than...
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« Reply #2368 on: Wednesday 27 May 2020, 12:09:02 AM »
Bibi epitomizes ‘the turd that won’t flush.’

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Offline relámpago blanco

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« Reply #2370 on: Tuesday 18 August 2020, 02:27:06 PM »
Why dont they just split it down the middle and draw straws for who gets what half.

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« Reply #2371 on: Tuesday 18 August 2020, 03:03:12 PM »
Why dont they just split it down the middle and draw straws for who gets what half.

I hope this was supposed to be in the daft things your lass has said thread.
:) As you were.

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« Reply #2372 on: Tuesday 18 August 2020, 09:03:39 PM »
Well does it?  You'll never convince either side of a fair division and having it where each country has territory all over the shop is never going to work.


Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #2373 on: Wednesday 19 August 2020, 02:04:53 PM »
A few years ago, that might have been possible, or at least part of the conversation, but now you can't really suggest it because it's now antisemtic to deny jewish people the right to self-determination. And that means the lands of Israel. You tell them no, then you're a f***ing antisemite and it's as simple as that. Can't even suggest the creation of Israel was a bit iffy.

For a few decades, even Tony Benn used to say it, the only way to fix the situation was a secular democratic state. That's over now, as it's been framed in the way is has, as mentioned above. This is where the centrist obfuscation over the Corbyn antisemite hysteria has left us. I'm sure they'll reflect on their role in it. :rolleyes:
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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« Reply #2374 on: Thursday 24 September 2020, 12:50:52 PM »
Apparently Bibi brings suitcases full of dirty laundry with him when he comes to the U.S. and has it cleaned by the U.S. staff who attend him. :lol: f***ing dickhead