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Will Newcastle be relegated from The Premier League? (0=EPL is Trash - 10=Dead Certain 15=Steve Bruce, ffs!)

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Offline et tu brute

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« Reply #22725 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 06:47:11 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

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« Reply #22726 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 06:49:44 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.
O0 Fulham messed up not beating Burnley that was huge,Unless they can get a system in place that gets mitro firing they are gone 100%

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« Reply #22727 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 06:50:57 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

Neither was Bruce's ultra defensive surrender system. Best try to score, you don't win a game if you don't.

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« Reply #22728 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 07:03:42 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

Neither was Bruce's ultra defensive surrender system. Best try to score, you don't win a game if you don't.


Didn’t say it was, but, this one isn’t either. With Wilson missing we don’t have the players to score enough goals to win games. I think we’re down either way as Jones was not the solution to the problem a proper manager was.

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« Reply #22729 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 07:25:38 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

Neither was Bruce's ultra defensive surrender system. Best try to score, you don't win a game if you don't.


Didn’t say it was, but, this one isn’t either. With Wilson missing we don’t have the players to score enough goals to win games. I think we’re down either way as Jones was not the solution to the problem a proper manager was.

Fair point that  O0

I have feeling that in a few weeks time we're going to be 4/5 points from safety, Momentum is swinging well away from us, everyone bar Sheff Utd and WBA looks like they can get a result.

We have no fight, are showing no fight certainly without Wilson and with Bruce still blundering along we're doomed.

Offline et tu brute

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« Reply #22730 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 07:27:47 PM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

Neither was Bruce's ultra defensive surrender system. Best try to score, you don't win a game if you don't.


Didn’t say it was, but, this one isn’t either. With Wilson missing we don’t have the players to score enough goals to win games. I think we’re down either way as Jones was not the solution to the problem a proper manager was.

Fair point that  O0

I have feeling that in a few weeks time we're going to be 4/5 points from safety, Momentum is swinging well away from us, everyone bar Sheff Utd and WBA looks like they can get a result.

We have no fight, are showing no fight certainly without Wilson and with Bruce still blundering along we're doomed.


Yeah I agree

Offline johnny36

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« Reply #22731 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 07:54:20 PM »
Burnley and Brighton imploding is our only hope.
Palace to beat both Brighton and Fulham this week
Brighton have a difficult enough run in too

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« Reply #22732 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 08:05:45 PM »
Are you unhappy with this? ???
 
I mean, let’s be honest you are not getting a takeover. Why on earth would someone NOT be happy seeing Mike Ashley burn to the ground? You really think anything will get better as long as this regime is in charge... hello ???
Seriously, watch this interview:
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"He (Mike Ashley) loves football but he sometimes can't understand how it works and it confuses and upsets him, and when he is upset he does things that aren't brilliant for the football club." - Alan Pardew about Mike Ashley

Offline astraguy

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« Reply #22733 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 08:11:10 PM »
Are you unhappy with this? ???
 
I mean, let’s be honest you are not getting a takeover. Why on earth would someone NOT be happy seeing Mike Ashley burn to the ground? You really think anything will get better as long as this regime is in charge... hello ???
I couldn't give a F*** if the club did a sunderland under Ashley and i can't see that being to far off,The takeover is Fuc*ed and so is the club i'll crack open the beers if we sink

Offline Fantail Breeze

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« Reply #22734 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 08:21:22 PM »
Probably a 6 at the moment. Closer to 7 than a 5.

If we don’t sack Bruce, I genuinely think we’ll go down. The only question is whether we leave it too late or not.

Offline GWN

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« Reply #22735 on: Monday 22 February 2021, 11:55:27 PM »
We are in danger of a huge shift in this club.

This feels different this time, if we go down we will crash and burn imho, no money to spend, no gaurantee the squad will stick together, Bruce could stay on, I agree with another poster that would be me fully done with this club.This is a very real scenario folks, very real. Very sad .
The takeover is dead.please STOP talking about it.

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« Reply #22736 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 09:50:43 AM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

The obvious solution is to bring Dubravka back in and then once fit Fed comes in to partner Lascelles. Full backs are a problem, need Manquillo back
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Offline TRon

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« Reply #22737 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 10:11:45 AM »
Are you unhappy with this? ???
 
I mean, let’s be honest you are not getting a takeover. Why on earth would someone NOT be happy seeing Mike Ashley burn to the ground? You really think anything will get better as long as this regime is in charge... hello ???

Yes I'm unhappy. In case there is still a takeover on the cards.

Offline et tu brute

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« Reply #22738 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 10:12:12 AM »
Even without Wilson, we've got enough quality to score goals, it's all about the system. Stick to Jones' system and we have half a chance.


My concern (see above) is we are conceding far too many goals and look like we are going to whenever a team attacks our goal. It’s ok scoring goals, but, do we have the players to score 2, 3 or more to keep churning out results. Our defensive formation is very poor no matter which players are in position. The system currently is certainly not providing a good defensive platform.

The obvious solution is to bring Dubravka back in and then once fit Fed comes in to partner Lascelles. Full backs are a problem, need Manquillo back


Dubravka has to come in. Problem is it does not matter which players come in, we still concede too many goals. The real solution is a total change in manager, but, that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

Offline The Prophet

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« Reply #22739 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 10:14:03 AM »
The form guide makes for interesting reading over the last five games:

Southampton - 1 point
Burnley - 6 points
Brighton - 8 points
Newcastle - 6 points
Fulham - 8 points
West Brom - 3 points
Sheffield United - 3 points

So it's much of a much really. Us, West Brom and Brighton have had to play two of the 'big six' too.

Offline BirtleyMag

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« Reply #22740 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 10:26:06 AM »
I think we need 7 points from the next 4 games at a minimum to have a chance.

Offline Ketsbaia

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« Reply #22741 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 11:21:06 AM »
Also have to hope that Fulham peak too soon. Every year there'll be a team who puts together a run of form but sometimes it comes too early - maybe facing Spurs, Liverpool and Man City consecutively can end that.

Offline St1pe

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« Reply #22742 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 11:29:02 AM »
Also have to hope that Fulham peak too soon. Every year there'll be a team who puts together a run of form but sometimes it comes too early - maybe facing Spurs, Liverpool and Man City consecutively can end that.

I was thinking this yesterday. Probably clutching. They’ve had a really really good run and they’re still 3 points behind. If we win a couple of games in the next few, they lose and the points gap looks big again it’ll be a huge mental hurdle for them to overcome. We need to do our bit and get some wins though.

Offline ExiledGeordie

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« Reply #22743 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 11:52:59 AM »
Also have to hope that Fulham peak too soon. Every year there'll be a team who puts together a run of form but sometimes it comes too early - maybe facing Spurs, Liverpool and Man City consecutively can end that.

I was thinking this yesterday. Probably clutching. They’ve had a really really good run and they’re still 3 points behind. If we win a couple of games in the next few, they lose and the points gap looks big again it’ll be a huge mental hurdle for them to overcome. We need to do our bit and get some wins though.

Our season will go a long way to being decided in the next 4-5 games. If we somehow pull out some results and Fulham drop some points in the tougher fixtures we may just pull clear. Conversely if they continue to do well and we struggle it’s goodnight Irene

Offline The Prophet

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« Reply #22744 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 11:59:09 AM »
Aye, I think we'll have a good idea of just how much bother we're in come the end of March.

Offline Ikon

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« Reply #22745 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 12:13:28 PM »
We are going down, it's written in stone. We deserve it too, big time (not us fans though). We are a house on fire where the firefighters aren't bothered to do anything about it, and haven't been for ages.

Offline ExiledGeordie

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« Reply #22746 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 12:36:47 PM »
We are going down, it's written in stone. We deserve it too, big time (not us fans though). We are a house on fire where the firefighters aren't bothered to do anything about it, and haven't been for ages.

Well summed up. Same mistakes, time and again, is it any surprise we are where we are with the ludicrous decisions that are made 🤷‍♂️

Offline Ikon

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« Reply #22747 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 12:41:59 PM »
So easy to stay up too. It's comical how a club can be this mismanaged, it's almost surreal :lol:

A proper empty f***ing shell.

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« Reply #22748 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 01:14:57 PM »
Nobody deserves to be relegated more than the c***s running this club. They're an insult to the game. Anybody involved in the game should be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect.


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« Reply #22749 on: Tuesday 23 February 2021, 03:23:13 PM »
So easy to stay up too. It's comical how a club can be this mismanaged, it's almost surreal :lol:

A proper empty f***ing shell.

It’s genuinely mental.

I think that’s part of the reason pundits have such a difficult time. On the pitch there are 11 players and it kind of looks like a football club, and some of their opinions can apply to.

But in reality it has broken so many of the principles and premises that usually apply, that it’s futile to try and assess it as if it’s a football club in the normal sense.

I mean, our approach to avoiding a £100m relegation is Graeme Jones and an Arsenal loanee. Makes no sense at all.