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The choices.

Propery Tax on 2nd home.
Vehicle Tax on more that one car.
Indirect taxes..Beer/Luxury goods/Ciggies/ etc..
From the profits of big companies.
Green Taxes - Fuel / Air Travel/ Pollution
People with saving over £250k
Utilities
From stock market profits
Income Tax
State Lottery
From street performers.

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Offline Parky

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How should Taxes be collected?
« on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:02:40 pm »
John Maynard Keynes
The avoidance of taxes is the only intellectual pursuit that carries any reward.

Winston Churchill
There is no such thing as a good tax.

Will Rogers
The income tax has made more liars out of the American people than golf has.

Plato
When there is an income tax, the just man will pay more and the unjust less on the same amount of income.

Albert Einstein
The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax.

Benjamin Tucker
To force a man to pay for the violation of his own liberty is indeed an addition of insult to injury.

Will Rogers
The difference between death and taxes is death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets.

Ronald Reagan
The taxpayer: that's someone who works for the federal government, but doesn't have to take a civil service examination.

Robert A. Heinlein
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss.

Winston Churchill
We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.

G. Gordon Liddy
A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.

Barry Goldwater
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.

Calvin Coolidge
Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.

Offline Kitman

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:11:05 pm »
Ask Lester Pigott or Ken Dodd, they never quite got the hang of it, for different reasons
If you wonder why a professional football club should need a refresher course in such obvious issues as punctuality, discipline, team-bonding, fitness, injured players staying late for extra treatment, communication with those who have been out of the side (such as Mark Viduka last week), then you are not alone. One word: shambles.

Offline Howaythelads

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:16:06 pm »
Parky

Do you have any opinions on the matter that are your own? Other than that you think income tax is bollocks?

By the way, any reason why you decided to post this in two threads?
HTL

Offline Tooj

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:16:43 pm »
Parky surely Robert Peel should be in there somewhere?  bluebigrazz.gif
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Offline Parky

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:16:51 pm »
No. :lol:  To HTL.



Offline ChezGiven

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:17:47 pm »
 :lol:

Offline Howaythelads

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:19:17 pm »
No. :lol:  To HTL.




So you don't think income tax is bollocks. Good, that's sorted then.

Why don't you stick to ID Cards and the 50 biometrics?  :cool:
HTL

Offline Parky

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:19:59 pm »
 :lol:

I thought you cornered that market love. :lol:

Offline Dave

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 05:22:22 pm »
At a rank.

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Offline Rehhagel

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 07:55:21 pm »
Tax the socialists only.

Offline SEMTEX

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 10:41:35 pm »
Income Tax, Luxury Goods & Green Fuels.

Fairly uncontroversial.

Offline Syrette

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 11:44:25 pm »
Which one is the joke option?

Offline Parky

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 19 October 2006, 11:54:23 pm »
I could pop Bellamy in. :P

Offline Pip

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 12:00:27 am »
Pop in 50 Cent ;)

Offline madras

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 12:11:16 am »
Tax the socialists only.
but that'll be everyone apart from your fheurership!!!

take a choice....higher direct taxation and lower indirect,or lower direct and higher indirect(user)taxation.personally i prefer morally the latter but it would be much harder to create a budget.
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Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 12:40:23 am »
Income Tax, Luxury Goods & Green Fuels.

Fairly uncontroversial.
+second car tax.

Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 06:41:27 am »
Anally.

Offline Rehhagel

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 08:00:14 am »
Tax the socialists only.
but that'll be everyone apart from your fheurership!!!

take a choice....higher direct taxation and lower indirect,or lower direct and higher indirect(user)taxation.personally i prefer morally the latter but it would be much harder to create a budget.

Everyone but my socialist leader? that doesn't make sense.

Offline Kitman

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 10:46:17 am »
Tax the socialists only.
but that'll be everyone apart from your fheurership!!!

take a choice....higher direct taxation and lower indirect,or lower direct and higher indirect(user)taxation.personally i prefer morally the latter but it would be much harder to create a budget.

Personally I would say your latter option is only prerable if the expenditure on which the indirect tax is levied is genuinely optional.  Unfortunately a lot of indirect tax is paid on essential expenditure, which taxes the less well off indiscriminately, and if the EU has its way in the future that position will be even worse
If you wonder why a professional football club should need a refresher course in such obvious issues as punctuality, discipline, team-bonding, fitness, injured players staying late for extra treatment, communication with those who have been out of the side (such as Mark Viduka last week), then you are not alone. One word: shambles.

Offline Parky

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 10:46:22 am »
I wouldn't mind paying income tax if we could get interest free loans from the Govt, from the money we pay as tax. I think the role of the banks in this triangle has been to the gross detriment of Westen society, remember the psbr and the amount the Govt has to borrow from the same banks to keep the policy train moving.

Offline Kitman

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 10:48:50 am »
I wouldn't mind paying income tax if we could get interest free loans from the Govt, from the money we pay as tax. I think the role of the banks in this triangle has been to the gross detriment of Westen society, remember the psbr and the amount the Govt has to borrow from the same banks to keep the policy train moving.

Govts tend to spend money faster than they get it, so there's nothing left to lend.  The money banks make from joe public and small businesses in particular is scandalous imo
If you wonder why a professional football club should need a refresher course in such obvious issues as punctuality, discipline, team-bonding, fitness, injured players staying late for extra treatment, communication with those who have been out of the side (such as Mark Viduka last week), then you are not alone. One word: shambles.

Offline Parky

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 10:52:15 am »
Agreed and you have to wonder why Govt don't introduce legislation to curb the obscene profits banks are making. People forget that the money made in a country ALL OF ITis made from the ingenuity, skills and labour of people and banks are just creaming it off continually. This moneyis not theirs, they had nothing to do with making it (apart from charging interest at various stages).


As far as I can see we are paying income tax to fund interest and capital sum payments to banks. The banks need to be bought into line. Where is the 'free market' where banking is concerned, there isn't one. The are working as a cabaland just taking our money.

Offline Kitman

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 20 October 2006, 10:59:17 am »
Agreed and you have to wonder why Govt don't introduce legislation to curb the obscene profits banks are making. People forget that the money made in a country ALL OF ITis made from the ingenuity, skills and labour of people and banks are just creaming it off continually. This moneyis not theirs, they had nothing to do with making it (apart from charging interest at various stages).


As far as I can see we are paying income tax to fund interest and capital sum payments to banks. The banks need to be bought into line. Where is the 'free market' where banking is concerned, there isn't one. The are working as a cabaland just taking our money.

It's taken years for people to cotton on that the clearing system is just a money making scam for the banks.  "Insurance protection" for loans and penalty fees are another scam.  They rely on ignorance and apathy to get away with it, lucky for them there's plenty of that
If you wonder why a professional football club should need a refresher course in such obvious issues as punctuality, discipline, team-bonding, fitness, injured players staying late for extra treatment, communication with those who have been out of the side (such as Mark Viduka last week), then you are not alone. One word: shambles.

Offline Rob W

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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 22 October 2006, 07:40:33 pm »
"money making scam".........  the trouble is they have to make money SOMEHOW otherwise why bother?

If you have free banking then how are they going to make a $

Same as currency exchanges - they make their profit on the buy/sell spread - banks do the same in clearing but  use time as the spread...............
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Re: How should Taxes be collected?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 22 October 2006, 08:28:32 pm »
it's a disgrace, my dad gets taxed 40% of his wages. 40 f***ing %.  thats a mans wages.  and it all goes to f***ing foreigners and charvers.