Poll

Who do you feel is the worst manager?

Steve Bruce
66 (33%)
Steve McClaren
12 (6%)
John Carver
86 (43%)
Alan Pardew
12 (6%)
Joe Kinnear
24 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 200

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Offline Decky

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Re: Our Worst Manager Under Ashley
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:10:10 AM »
Bruce is a better manager than Carver, but it's a low, low bar.

Only reason I don’t mention Carver is he wasn’t a proper manager imo. Bruce has managed in the top 2 leagues for two decades. :lol:

What are you on about man sure he was the best manager in the Premier League at the time.
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Offline Darth Crooks

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:11:40 AM »
Pardew the worst presence. Carver the worst manager. Top of the plops this like.


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Offline Sean

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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:11:59 AM »
Carver was worse but I can't possibly hate anyone more than Pardew.

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:12:19 AM »
I voted for him but find it difficult to define carver as a 'manager'
Exactly this.  That is why the obvious answer should be Bruce.

Offline RS

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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:17:06 AM »
Pardew probably squeaks this on a personal level because he actually believed he was Jesus. Bruce is thundering up the inside though with his s*** interviews, pathetic excuses and “boyhood club” patter. He’s Potentially the worst manager we’ve had technically however.
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Offline samptime29

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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:19:28 AM »
Carver.

Offline Chicane

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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:19:36 AM »
Carver is obviously the worst but I've never despised anyone in life more than Pardew*

*probably maybe not entirely true but not far off

Offline Tisd09

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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:24:13 AM »
Voted Carver but what a depressing list.

I am still surprised that Mark Hughes hasn't been on our list of managers.

The only thing that worries me about Bruce getting the boot is who MA would appoint. Grim times!
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Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:27:53 AM »
Anyone voting Bruce over Carver has a short memory.

Carver was awful but wasn’t a manager imo and was only interim anyway.

Bruce on the other hand has came in after Benitez, should have had one of the easiest jobs just tweaking what came before him, has managed for over 20 years and is f***ing s****.
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Offline Collage

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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:32:41 AM »
Worst manager: Carver
Most hated: Pardew, closely followed by Bruce

Offline The Ideal Crash

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:37:19 AM »
You can’t really lump Carver in there, he was a caretaker manager. Probably saw it as his big chance to outshine Pardew but the damage had been done at that point. Even if he had the capability there was little he could have done.

He didn’t make his own signings or have any influence whatsoever in the overall running of things.

This is a straight shootout between Pardew, McClaren and Bruce.

For me, Pardew was dreadful, some real depressing spells in there. Total dross players he was allowed to sign.

But, he was also there when the club lucked into a couple of excellent signings and we had our best season with best football since SBR was here. So for that reason he can’t be the worst.

McClaren thought he spent well, we did too at first. Mitrovic looked like he had the tools to tear up the league, and maybe he would have if it was 1995 but football had moved on. You don’t use a blunt tool for what’s precision work nowadays.

But look at an average match day team that season, Mitrovic, Perez, Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Tiote, Coloccini, Janmaat, even Cisse was still there. There is no way that team should have gone down.

Although turgid, Steve Bruce is getting (slightly) more with less. We probably hate him more but that doesn’t make him the worst.

The winner is Steve McClaren.

Offline nufcjb

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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:39:22 AM »
Anyone voting Bruce over Carver has a short memory.

Carver was awful but wasn’t a manager imo and was only interim anyway.

Bruce on the other hand has came in after Benitez, should have had one of the easiest jobs just tweaking what came before him, has managed for over 20 years and is f***ing s****.
This. I can't take Carver seriously as our manager. In the job for 4-5 months.

Bruce and Pardew very close for me but each week, Bruce is getting worse and worse and I'm not even talking about results.

Worse thing is, he claims he is from up here and supposedly knows the club. But the way he has gone about telling the media about how us fans should be grateful and that this club is 'we are where we are', that is the ultimate p*ss-taking. Sounds more like a mackem than a Mag.

Offline Collage

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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:41:33 AM »
The style of football wasn’t as repulsive under McClaren though. We at least tried to attack and play it on the deck.

Offline AyeDubbleYoo

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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:42:26 AM »
I thought McClaren had some good ideas when he first came in. He just kept losing and lost faith in his own methods.

I'd put him above Pardew and Bruce because at least there was some evidence of thought happening on the touchline.

Offline Collage

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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:44:47 AM »
I thought McClaren had some good ideas when he first came in. He just kept losing and lost faith in his own methods.

I'd put him above Pardew and Bruce because at least there was some evidence of thought happening on the touchline.

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Offline The Prophet

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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 11:47:08 AM »
Pardew had comfortably the best team of the lot too. Imagine the likes of Colo, Sissoko, Cabaye, Ben Arfa and Cisse under good management.
It's basically what gives us the upper hand even in times of crisis. "Cannit wait man, we're gonna batter them, hope it's 4 or 5 nil, fancy such and such for a hat trick, we're going got Europe, they're a yo-yo team" Then five minutes into the game "s***, why haven't we scored? They've had a shot! Why aren't we all over them? How come there are two teams in the game? f***, what if we don't win? f***s SAKE CLEAR IT SHOOT TACKLE HIM BOO! What if we lose, PANIC PANIC BRUCE MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY DID HE MISS THAT SHOT, IS HE A MAG?! IT'S BECAUSE BRUCE IS A MAG! f*** OFF STEWARD ARE YOU A f***ing MAG? BET ALL THESE COPPERS ARE MAGS, AND THE MEDIA! THE REF'S A f***ing MAG! AM I A MAG?! Wait, blacked out for a second there. Ah, f***, we've lost again."

Offline BergenMagpie

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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:10:41 PM »
Pardew for me. He had the best players to work with, but for some f***ed up reason he decided to switch things around and settling on whatever yielded the worst results. For example going from an attacking 4-3-3 to a slow predictable 4-4-2 (playing Sissoko/Gosling/Gouffran/Cisse on the wings instead of HBA etc).

I was always so disappointed to see the line-ups before games as there was so much potential going to waste.

He was also content with micro-budgets every transfer window as he knew he could use that as an excuse down the line. This, in a period where player prices were almost doubling every year. Clubs who invested heavily in that period could really go to the next level, but we were left with players like Amalfitiano and loanees.

Offline Darth Crooks

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:12:59 PM »
Pardew bought into the way the club was run the most and was happy to toe the line or feign harsh treatment at Ashley’s hands when he saw fir. Slime. Bruce is just an arrogant oaf.


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Offline Chicken Dancer

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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:30:06 PM »
Why is the king on there? 5th, 10th and sure we were about 9th in January when he was hounded out too? I know he sucked up to Ashley etc but on results and league finishes he shouldn't be anywhere near this list like.

Genuinely not sure how much credit he deserves for any of that. Maybe I'm being harsh but he had a really good team yet continuously went on 6/7 game losing (or not winning) streaks which means he comfortably deserves a spot on there imo.

That f***ing kick off routine :anguish:

The f***ing corners floated to Williamson man :lol: Sure we didn't score from like 200+ corners or something daft.

Online ManDoon

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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:42:50 PM »
Bruce for me
:lol: I dunno. I'm starting to think it was us.
Trump will do well man. Don't know why but I really feel this will be the case. Really hope it will come to be that way.

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Online tgarve

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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:44:59 PM »
Confused how the argument with Pardew is that’s it’s all fluke when he did well but all his fault when it went bad
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Offline Kanji

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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:45:51 PM »
Bruce is the worst.
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Offline AyeDubbleYoo

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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 12:58:17 PM »
Confused how the argument with Pardew is that’s it’s all fluke when he did well but all his fault when it went bad

Because he's bad?

Online ManDoon

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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 01:06:40 PM »
Confused how the argument with Pardew is that’s it’s all fluke when he did well but all his fault when it went bad

It's not all fluke, its just he's a very bad manager (as proved everywhere else) and had a very good set of players.
:lol: I dunno. I'm starting to think it was us.
Trump will do well man. Don't know why but I really feel this will be the case. Really hope it will come to be that way.

Steve Bruce "“We can’t compete with the bigs boys at the top end so the cup is our best bet - it’s a lovely day out”"

Online sempuki

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Re: Our Worst Manager Under Ashley
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 5 January 2021, 01:09:07 PM »
Lickspittle Carver.