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Who do you feel is the worst manager?

Steve Bruce
66 (33%)
Steve McClaren
12 (6%)
John Carver
86 (43%)
Alan Pardew
12 (6%)
Joe Kinnear
24 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 200

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Offline Amir_9

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Re: Our Worst Manager Under Ashley
« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 02:55:21 AM »
Carver isn't/wasn't a manager, just some sp***** who happened to work at a club where the owner doesn't give a flying f***.

Pardew as clear as his shortcomings and ineptitude is, still isn't the worst given the fact we were mid-table when he left and somehow was in charge during the 5th placed finish.

Kinnear or McClaren for me by far. Kinnear a dinosaur well past his sell-by date, even though he wasn't any good during his "peak" either. However, McClaren was diabolical, absolutely no f***ing business getting relegated with that squad.

Offline gjohnson

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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 09:03:31 AM »
As utterly abysmal as all of the are/were, none of them served up the dire football Bruce puts out...

Don't remember the team being consistently bottom of every attacking metric for any of the barring Bruce.

Yes there were dire performances, yes there were humiliating defeats to shocking teams, but it was never seemed to be so consistently 'let the other team have the ball all the time and hope we can get a counter attack'

Pardew had the players to bail him out
McLaren had the right idea, but not the backbone to carry it out
Carver was just an accident waiting to happen from the start
Kinnear was an embarrassment from start to finish, but was picking up points. Not with great football, but still more entertaining than Bruceball. Plus there was always the cringy amusement that he might just have a sweary rant every now and then. Yes his Simon Bird rant looking back was a huge embarrassment, but still have the feeling that the intention was to build a siege mentality...just 20 years behind the times

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« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 09:22:01 AM »
I don’t really buy the line that Pardew had the players to bail him out.

We’ve seen time and time again other good playing squads who either are not performing due to the managers tactics or who are mentally not there.

Therefore despite his many shortcomings and general unpopularity the other names on the list are not good enough to wipe his arse.
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« Reply #103 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 09:33:10 AM »
Kinnear and McClaren are worse than Bruce in my opinion.
1 (worst). Kinnear.
2. McClaren
3. Carver
4. Bruce
5. Pardew
6. Hughton
7. Keegan
8. Rafa

Leaving Shearer out, and Sam Allardyce as well.

Offline toon25

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« Reply #104 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 09:38:02 AM »
Carver could relegate Real Madrid.

It was also the genuine, and legitimate, fear that Ashley would give him the job permanently.

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« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 10:00:38 AM »
I don’t really buy the line that Pardew had the players to bail him out.

We’ve seen time and time again other good playing squads who either are not performing due to the managers tactics or who are mentally not there.

Therefore despite his many shortcomings and general unpopularity the other names on the list are not good enough to wipe his arse.

Five points of relegation, with the quality of Colo, Cabaye, Ben Afra and Ba in the side. I beg to differ.

Offline Lush Vlad

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« Reply #106 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 10:42:34 AM »
Thinking about it a bit more and from reading back through some posts on here.  McClaren has been let off lightly, I feel.   

Perhaps it is because he wasn't here long for hatred to start taking over.  Or because Rafa came straight in and then stayed on after relegation, so it kind of blurs it all out.  Maybe because he came in after Pardew and Carver and so we were all just happy that era was over.  I guess he also wasn't as unbearable as a personality compared to some of the other despicable c***s that have managed us. But whatever way you cut it, we were going down with a whimper under him and went on some long winless streaks, from memory.

He had a decent amount of money to spend at the time, especially for us.  We had some players that could often turn in decent individual performances, or who went on to achieve more elsewhere, for better clubs.  So it's unforgivable that he had us in a relegation scrap his whole time here.

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« Reply #107 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 11:01:38 AM »
McClaren the worst for me. Spent loads of cash and took a side with loads of quality to the brink.

Kinnear by far the most embarrassing name but would have kept us up without his health issues that season. We were drawing a lot and weren't taking many thrashings; it was the period of Hughton caretakership and the damp squib of Shearer that took us down that year.

Bruce very very s*** but ahead of McClaren as he didn't relegate his side (yet).

Pardew biggest c*** but a better manager than the others.

Carver not even a manager, barely human.
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Offline Nattfare

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« Reply #108 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 11:18:48 AM »
Weird people remember finishing 5th under Pardew, but forget the following season where we nearly got relegated with a side that should have been pushing the European places.

Thank god we're not in Europe any more!

Carver not even a manager, barely human.

Was gonna say that. He resembles a Stone Age caveman more than he resembles a human. :lol:

Offline GavMcEl

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« Reply #109 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 12:16:07 PM »
Carver by a long shot. Just a s*** c*** in every way even if he probably meant well in his head and wasn’t a vindictive lying piece of s*** like Pardew or Bruce.
Carver was comfortably the worst manager, but my hatred for Pardew and Bruce is much greater.

:thup:

Kinnear’s management was just before my time as a supporter, so I’ll not rate him in that regard.

In terms of direness of quality on the pitch:

1. Carver
2. McClaren
3. Bruce
4. Pardew

In terms of pure, unadulterated shithousery:

1. Pardew
2. Kinnear (DoF)
3. Bruce
4. Carver
5. McClaren

McClaren  has to be higher  up the shithousery list, do you not remember  when Chelsea  hammered  us 5-0 he came on the tv smiling  from ear to ear after

Offline Paully

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« Reply #110 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 12:19:52 PM »
I'm not counting Carver so Bruce by a mile!

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« Reply #111 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 12:22:10 PM »
Carver by a long shot. Just a s*** c*** in every way even if he probably meant well in his head and wasn’t a vindictive lying piece of s*** like Pardew or Bruce.
Carver was comfortably the worst manager, but my hatred for Pardew and Bruce is much greater.

:thup:

Kinnear’s management was just before my time as a supporter, so I’ll not rate him in that regard.

In terms of direness of quality on the pitch:

McClaren  has to be higher  up the shithousery list, do you not remember  when Chelsea  hammered  us 5-0 he came on the tv smiling  from ear to ear after
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Offline Lenny

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« Reply #112 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 12:26:02 PM »
McClaren the worst for me. Spent loads of cash and took a side with loads of quality to the brink.

Kinnear by far the most embarrassing name but would have kept us up without his health issues that season. We were drawing a lot and weren't taking many thrashings; it was the period of Hughton caretakership and the damp squib of Shearer that took us down that year.

Bruce very very s*** but ahead of McClaren as he didn't relegate his side (yet).

Pardew biggest c*** but a better manager than the others.

Carver not even a manager, barely human.

Is this a commonly shared opinion? I can't say I am in agreement :lol:

Offline gjohnson

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« Reply #113 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 12:52:27 PM »
McClaren the worst for me. Spent loads of cash and took a side with loads of quality to the brink.

Kinnear by far the most embarrassing name but would have kept us up without his health issues that season. We were drawing a lot and weren't taking many thrashings; it was the period of Hughton caretakership and the damp squib of Shearer that took us down that year.

Bruce very very s*** but ahead of McClaren as he didn't relegate his side (yet).

Pardew biggest c*** but a better manager than the others.

Carver not even a manager, barely human.

Is this a commonly shared opinion? I can't say I am in agreement :lol:

Wasn't pretty or particularly pleasant, but he was well on target to keep us up. Did the basics enough to get some results that weren't total flukes unlike Bruce where players cant pass to each other if they're ahead of them on the pitch or more than 5 feet away

Offline Colo's Short and Curlies

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« Reply #114 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 01:08:25 PM »
McClaren was just 100% the wrong person at the wrong time. The club was poison when he came in and he just isn't the personality to turn anything around

Pardew rode waves and then got too big for his boots and tried to be too clever far too often. Other than Rafa and Keegan no manager that we've had under Ashley would have taken his squad to 5th place though.

Carver, he was just Pardew's turd that wouldn't flush.

Bruce actually came in with the team in the best shape of any of Ashley's managers - other than maybe Allardyce

So you have Rafa, Keegan, Hughton who were qualified successes (as successful as could be under the regime but potential to have done better if circumstances allowed)

Big gap to Pardew

Gap to Kinnear

Swamp feeders of Carver, Allardyce and McLaren

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Offline GWN

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« Reply #115 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 04:25:40 PM »
McClaren the worst for me. Spent loads of cash and took a side with loads of quality to the brink.

Kinnear by far the most embarrassing name but would have kept us up without his health issues that season. We were drawing a lot and weren't taking many thrashings; it was the period of Hughton caretakership and the damp squib of Shearer that took us down that year.

Bruce very very s*** but ahead of McClaren as he didn't relegate his side (yet).

Pardew biggest c*** but a better manager than the others.

Carver not even a manager, barely human.


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Offline Inferior Acuña

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« Reply #116 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 05:07:30 PM »
Carver was totally inept, barely can be called a manager.
Think has to be Mclaren of the supposed experienced managers, shocking and after not too bad a summer.
Kinnear obviously wasn't good but came into absolute chaos, reckon he'd probably have kept us up if he'd stayed on for season - I don't really blame him, or any manager that season, for the relegation like I would McClaren.

Don't make me rank them as can't bring myself to write Pardew/Bruce around the top.

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« Reply #117 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 05:24:45 PM »
I just think how Bruce would have done taking over the Pardew/Carver mess like McClaren and think he’d have been even more horrendous. He’s managed to f*** up a good thing so God help him back then.
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Offline Inferior Acuña

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« Reply #118 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 05:34:32 PM »
I reckon Bruce is better. McClaren's been pretty consistently utter s**** since Middlesbrough, bar an unremarkable season at Derby the year before us and his first spell at Twente. Bruce was getting Hull promoted for a second time while McClaren was wrecking us.

To put it this way, if I was a Championship club I'd think Bruce was a pretty good appointment, I wouldn't want McClaren.

Offline jackyboy

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« Reply #119 on: Wednesday 6 January 2021, 05:39:03 PM »
Bruce for me because I make him the worst in every area apart from lying and then he's the best.  I don't think that any of the others destroyed the fan base the way Bruce has done
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Re: Our Worst Manager Under Ashley
« Reply #120 on: Wednesday 13 January 2021, 11:31:31 AM »
Steve Bruce

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« Reply #121 on: Wednesday 13 January 2021, 11:37:48 AM »
steve bruce in the modern era by a mile

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« Reply #122 on: Wednesday 13 January 2021, 12:18:20 PM »
Steve Bruce
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« Reply #123 on: Wednesday 13 January 2021, 01:01:56 PM »
Man ... Pardew was so rubbish and clueless, and his smarmy, arrogant, condescending manner just made the whole thing completely intolerable. Pretty difficult to top. Especially after that 5th place finish thanks to an outstanding team that he then went on to destroy single handedly.

Steve Bruce is equally rubbish and clueless, but is more of a pathetic figure just trying to blag it and cover his arse, which is pretty annoying too, but don't think it reaches Pardew levels.
I'll be watching the games, and I'll be talking about the teams. If it's a disaster it will be quite humorous and exactly what Mike Ashley deserves and to be honest I'll quite enjoy it. I am totally indifferent to results and the team success going forward.

Now, in certain games should the team do well, I will be happy more for the players, because I feel bad for them mostly, and I still want to see some of them do well. I will still feel comfortable giving the team credit when they do well. I just don't care about any outcome at this point and none of my money goes into anything to do with Mike Ashley's operations.

Offline tgarve

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« Reply #124 on: Wednesday 13 January 2021, 01:04:52 PM »
Man ... Pardew was so rubbish and clueless, and his smarmy, arrogant, condescending manner just made the whole thing completely intolerable. Pretty difficult to top. Especially after that 5th place finish thanks to an outstanding team that he then went on to destroy single handedly.

Steve Bruce is equally rubbish and clueless, but is more of a pathetic figure just trying to blag it and cover his arse, which is pretty annoying too, but don't think it reaches Pardew levels.

It does - as a manager way worse
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