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Offline Shearergol

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22175 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:18:38 AM »
So why are beIN now more confident that it's going to be rejected?

Offline mrmojorisin75

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22176 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:19:21 AM »
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and to allow sports rights-holders to take their rights

this is pretty telling for me
So raise your fists and march around
Dont dare take what you need
I'll jail and bury those committed
And smother the rest in greed
Crawl with me into tomorrow
Or i'll drag you to your grave
I'm deep inside your children
They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

Offline r0cafella

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22177 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:19:43 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.
United we stand, divided we fall.

Offline junkhead

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22178 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:20:12 AM »
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and to allow sports rights-holders to take their rights

this is pretty telling for me

Never gonna happen imo
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Offline Greg

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22179 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:21:06 AM »
Nearly 10.5k have signed that petition. Just shows this place is not a true reflection on the feelings of nufc twitter.

There you go.

Do their opinions not matter? Sure more people have signed that petition in less than a day than are signed up members to NUST.

Didn't say they didn't, but NUFC twitter is not even close to be representative of the fan base. Just ask anyone involved in any of the protest work be it Pardew, Ashley stuff, walk outs etc.

What's NUST got to do with it?

It’s a large enough group of people to be taken seriously And comparable in numbers to NUST, so should not dismissed or looked down upon. Some will also be members of NUST.

People on here have called it pathetic, for me looking down upon fellow NUFC fans for venting their frustration in a calm manner is way beyond pathetic.

I haven't.

But I haven't signed it as I think it's a little dangerous asking for a solution now - if people want the takeover then we simply have to wait until the Premier League approve it. There are clearly incredibly complex issues they are considering.

Pushing them to do it quicker - while unlikely to have any influence - if it did, would surely more likely result in a refusal and us being stuck with Ashley going forward?

The NUST letter on behalf of their members might have no impact either, in fact it probably will not, but it was a very strong point by point legal rebuttal of some of the nonsense claims by Qatar re the WTO report and others that have written to the Premier League, undertaken by a specialist barrister from 3 Hare Court Chambers and was sent directly to Richard Masters by legal counsel.

I haven’t signed it either, simply as I see no point in it. Those petitions don’t work, even for serious issues, so I don’t think it matters in terms of speeding things up, but clearly shows a united front of a group of supporters venting their frustrations in a better manner than we have done previously.

Again, for me won’t make a difference.

I’m all for the letter sent by NUST, I think it’s was a good reach out and not one done for the spotlight as others have done, backed up with not publishing the contents.

So all in I agree mainly with what you say there, the thing I’m not comfortable with is the dismissal of 10k supporters voices as twitter noise, it’s more than that and the number should be respected by all NUFC fans considering it’s not even 24 hours.

Ps, not sure how many voted in that poll where 97% wanted the takeover, but I’m sure it was also hosted on Twitter (might be wrong)

Pps...just think what 5 t***s with a coffin can do for your fans image a decade on, a petition is a good place to keep all that energy focused in one spot.  :lol:

It was a member survey, sent only to members via survey monkey or one of those things.

I was being facetious in response to your point about this place not being representative of the wider fan base (which I agree with) - we don't appear to really be disagreeing and clearly it is a little more than twitter noise - but my point being in general, all my experience in this sort of thing is that twitter (where we've seen most of the traction for the petition) clearly isn't respective of the wider fan base either - we've seen that time and time again over the years with loads of noise on twitter and little to no action on the ground by the masses that still descend on SJP.

Offline Kanji

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22180 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:21:15 AM »
Rights holders for tv rights > livelihood of football club.
N U F C

Offline chopey

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22181 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:21:22 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.

Bungs, watches, holidays, nice cars, promise of a future well paid jobs.
Mike Ashley stole my 30's

Offline jdckelly

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22182 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:22:13 AM »
Rights holders for tv rights > livelihood of football club literally everything else.
fyp

Offline Choppy Chop Chop

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22183 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:25:14 AM »
So deflated with all this, in a nutshell can someone say currently if it looks on or off

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22184 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:26:23 AM »
So deflated with all this, in a nutshell can someone say currently if it looks on or off

You'll get different answers, so it won't help.

But most likely off.

Offline Jackie Broon

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22185 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:26:30 AM »
Important line here ?

?s=20

Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. :aww:

Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me.

have SA said they'll allow prosecution of people in their courts?  cause if they don't then i could see that being a major issue based on that

That seems to be referring to lifting the ban on beIN broadcasting in SA. If that's what they're requiring they may be on incredibly dodgy ground, because there's certainly no offence involved in not allowing beIN to broadcast in SA.

Offline mrmojorisin75

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22186 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:26:48 AM »
So deflated with all this, in a nutshell can someone say currently if it looks on or off

no
So raise your fists and march around
Dont dare take what you need
I'll jail and bury those committed
And smother the rest in greed
Crawl with me into tomorrow
Or i'll drag you to your grave
I'm deep inside your children
They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

Offline junkhead

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22187 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:26:59 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.

All the PL's finance comes from the broadcasters. Sky Sports apart, BeIN are the PL's biggest broadcasting partner in terms of how much money they give to the PL. It's perfectly understandable that they have to keep them happy.. even discarding Qatar's reputation for large-scale corruption of football officials.
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Offline chopey

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22188 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:27:02 AM »
100% on,  f*** those corrupt Qataries
Mike Ashley stole my 30's

Offline jdckelly

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22189 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:27:14 AM »
So deflated with all this, in a nutshell can someone say currently if it looks on or off
nobody has the foggiest idea

Offline mrmojorisin75

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22190 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:27:57 AM »
Important line here ?

?s=20

Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. :aww:

Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me.

have SA said they'll allow prosecution of people in their courts?  cause if they don't then i could see that being a major issue based on that

That seems to be referring to lifting the ban on beIN broadcasting in SA. If that's what they're requiring they may be on incredibly dodgy ground, because there's certainly no offence involved in not allowing beIN to broadcast in SA.

i disagree, a major part of the WTO finding was SA blocking legal redress in their own country for violations
So raise your fists and march around
Dont dare take what you need
I'll jail and bury those committed
And smother the rest in greed
Crawl with me into tomorrow
Or i'll drag you to your grave
I'm deep inside your children
They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

Offline mrmojorisin75

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22191 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:28:36 AM »
100% on,  f*** those corrupt Qataries

fucken right, howay the corrupt saudis :lol:
So raise your fists and march around
Dont dare take what you need
I'll jail and bury those committed
And smother the rest in greed
Crawl with me into tomorrow
Or i'll drag you to your grave
I'm deep inside your children
They'll betray you in my name

Sleep now in the fire

Offline Judge Holden

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22192 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:29:33 AM »
100% on,  f*** those corrupt Qataries

This.

Offline r0cafella

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22193 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:31:23 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.

All the PL's finance comes from the broadcasters. Sky Sports apart, BeIN are the PL's biggest broadcasting partner in terms of how much money they give to the PL. It's perfectly understandable that they have to keep them happy.. even discarding Qatar's reputation for large-scale corruption of football officials.

In the context of the fit and proper persons test I just don’t see it.
United we stand, divided we fall.

Offline MiggysFirstGoal

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22194 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:32:44 AM »
Going to be good when the piracy thing gets sorted once and for all. Then the PL can move onto the next barrier.

“Now, about your human rights record...”

Another 15 weeks of back and forth emails.

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22195 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:32:54 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.

All the PL's finance comes from the broadcasters. Sky Sports apart, BeIN are the PL's biggest broadcasting partner in terms of how much money they give to the PL. It's perfectly understandable that they have to keep them happy.. even discarding Qatar's reputation for large-scale corruption of football officials.

In the context of the fit and proper persons test I just don’t see it.

I think it's pretty clear that they're operating outside of the guidelines for the test and making it up as they go along. I think that's probably within their right though.

Offline Jackie Broon

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22196 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:33:02 AM »
Important line here ?

?s=20

Reckon that concludes the matter. Only a matter of time. :aww:

Agreed. Cat out of the bag there for me.

have SA said they'll allow prosecution of people in their courts?  cause if they don't then i could see that being a major issue based on that

That seems to be referring to lifting the ban on beIN broadcasting in SA. If that's what they're requiring they may be on incredibly dodgy ground, because there's certainly no offence involved in not allowing beIN to broadcast in SA.

i disagree, a major part of the WTO finding was SA blocking legal redress in their own country for violations

That doesn't seem to be what he was referring to, he didn't say 'enforce rights', it seems to me that he's referring to beIN not being able to broadcast in SA.

Offline godzilla

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22197 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:33:36 AM »
?s=20

Offline jdckelly

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Re: Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure
« Reply #22198 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:34:15 AM »
Still don’t understand how BEIN have been afforded any influence in this matter.

All the PL's finance comes from the broadcasters. Sky Sports apart, BeIN are the PL's biggest broadcasting partner in terms of how much money they give to the PL. It's perfectly understandable that they have to keep them happy.. even discarding Qatar's reputation for large-scale corruption of football officials.

In the context of the fit and proper persons test I just don’t see it.
maybe but nothing occurs in a vacuum especially this one as BeIN are the victims of beoutq which is the deciding factor in this debacle its no wonder the prem would take their opinion seriously

Offline The Prophet

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« Reply #22199 on: Tuesday 30 June 2020, 11:34:26 AM »
I've still seen nothing to suggest its off like. I must be missing something.
It's basically what gives us the upper hand even in times of crisis. "Cannit wait man, we're gonna batter them, hope it's 4 or 5 nil, fancy such and such for a hat trick, we're going got Europe, they're a yo-yo team" Then five minutes into the game "s***, why haven't we scored? They've had a shot! Why aren't we all over them? How come there are two teams in the game? f***, what if we don't win? f***s SAKE CLEAR IT SHOOT TACKLE HIM BOO! What if we lose, PANIC PANIC BRUCE MAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY DID HE MISS THAT SHOT, IS HE A MAG?! IT'S BECAUSE BRUCE IS A MAG! f*** OFF STEWARD ARE YOU A f***ing MAG? BET ALL THESE COPPERS ARE MAGS, AND THE MEDIA! THE REF'S A f***ing MAG! AM I A MAG?! Wait, blacked out for a second there. Ah, f***, we've lost again."