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Offline TRon

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« Reply #575 on: Wednesday 3 February 2021, 02:57:07 PM »
Yeah I was going to say. Problem at the moment is to get any kind of midfield foothold we need 3 in there. But to get the best out of our squad we really need ASM, Fraser, Almiron and Wilson all in the team and that requires a midfield two. We're desperate for at least one midfielder who can get hold of a midfield - at least physically.

Yep. One of the biggest indictments of Bruce's supposed desire to play attacking football, to do that you really need to have midfielders who can get up and down the pitch and press the opposition high up. You can't do that with Shelvey without getting hammered on the counter.

Offline Paully

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« Reply #576 on: Thursday 4 February 2021, 06:21:34 AM »
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Online cubaricho

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« Reply #577 on: Thursday 4 February 2021, 06:45:20 AM »
That graphic is being hella generous when it comes to positions, too. 😂

Offline Abra Dubravka

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« Reply #578 on: Thursday 4 February 2021, 11:20:26 AM »
Wouldn't mind the 'throw on strikers' approach to getting an equaliser if the players were coached better, or a bit more intelligent enough to grasp the fact they collectively need to change their approach.

I remember Neville saying with Man United they had to sustain pressure on sides and waited for them to cave, like not giving/letting the other side win fouls, high temp quick and passing, ringing the box with players to keep the ball in the area when it breaks etc. 

Their all still going to play their own way, and not understand they need to all shift approaches to a way that sustains pressure and gets the ball into the box/behind the defence.

Ties into a wider disjointed approach to when Bruce plays Carroll, or subs him on - we never actually cross the ball for him that much, or he never really busts a gut to get in the box when he goes deep. Personally don't think he's even that much of a threat in air/crosses any more anyway

Offline Paully

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« Reply #579 on: Friday 5 February 2021, 04:59:38 PM »
Good angle of Shelvey’s laziness and the awful marking and positional all over!

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Offline johnny36

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« Reply #580 on: Friday 5 February 2021, 05:06:18 PM »
how poor was Batshuayi ? I advocated for us to sign him on loan a few times.  very poor for Palace

Offline Abra Dubravka

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« Reply #581 on: Friday 5 February 2021, 05:27:26 PM »
Good angle of Shelvey’s laziness and the awful marking and positional all over!

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Never developed that side of his game. Strong case to say he's a worse player than what he was when he was at Liverpool but now he's a notably slower; even in recent seasons I can remember him having a little turn of pace to shimmy away from a player.   

Never had a great physical side to his game, and never become defensively aware. That's why he never cut it at Liverpool,  Monk who'd watched him from sidelines long enough at Swansea quickly called him out as lazy once he was stuck in charge.

He's always had technique and good ball striking, that's all that's sustained him as a PL player.

In another world he'd have never joined us, got relegated with Swansea and spent the rest of his career at Championship level. Happens to countless players you always take for granted are PL standard but never find their way back.

In all seriousness, someone who's been retired seasons like Frank Lampard got to match fit they'd be better in our midfield.