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Re: UK Politics - Generation Tory
« Reply #525 on: Wednesday 22 January 2020, 07:15:26 PM »
‘I’ll let you have single market access anytime big boy. That’s a hard border you’ve got in your pants’

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« Reply #526 on: Wednesday 22 January 2020, 09:51:59 PM »
All at the height of New Labour too. :lol:

That's what made the deal with Murdoch so f***ed. He wouldn't pan Labour, but he'd radicalise the country whilst keeping them in power. Whilst he kept them in power, there was no incentive to deal with the problems of our apparent free press.
Read the theory once that it wasnt so much he supported Blairs Labour but realised they were going to win so jumped on board.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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« Reply #527 on: Wednesday 22 January 2020, 09:57:33 PM »
IDK what's real anymore but either way lol

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Read some of the comments, someone saying one of the girls isn't 20, isn't from Manchester etc as it states in her profile.......then she replies "where am I from then ?".....and then it stops. Would have been nice if someone asked if they were her comments.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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« Reply #528 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 07:36:48 AM »
All at the height of New Labour too. :lol:

That's what made the deal with Murdoch so f***ed. He wouldn't pan Labour, but he'd radicalise the country whilst keeping them in power. Whilst he kept them in power, there was no incentive to deal with the problems of our apparent free press.
Read the theory once that it wasnt so much he supported Blairs Labour but realised they were going to win so jumped on board.
Murdoch's modus operandi is to always look like he's on the side of a reasonable 'movement/party' then start slowly injecting poison whenever and wherever he can...

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« Reply #529 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 07:38:48 AM »
Then Blair shagged his wife :memelol:

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« Reply #530 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 08:46:46 AM »
There's very little more dispiriting than lefties I like going to bat for Richard Burgon.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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« Reply #531 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 01:33:10 PM »
There's very little more dispiriting than lefties I like going to bat for Richard Burgon.


Boregon. What a monotonous bellend he is. Just so bland.
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« Reply #532 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 05:21:25 PM »
I've nothing against him personally, but he is a right bland c***. Hilarious watching them pan Starmer for a lack of personality whilst pushing for him to become Deputy Leader. Dawn Butler was their logical choice, BAME, woman, has a bit of a personality, but let's do Burgon cause he said open selections. Control over unity.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

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« Reply #533 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 10:50:21 PM »
Butler would be a massive own goal after that video.

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« Reply #534 on: Thursday 23 January 2020, 10:56:08 PM »
Butler would be a massive own goal after that video.

After any video of her speaking tbh.
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« Reply #535 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 12:34:23 AM »
Sad as it, or as competent or incompetent as they are, having any non-whites in the firing line will keep/set Labour back.

Be amazed if you did a poll of English folk and Abbot, Khan and Lammy didn’t come top 10 of the most hated ‘English’ people alive.

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« Reply #536 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 06:56:21 AM »
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« Reply #537 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 07:48:36 AM »
Sad as it, or as competent or incompetent as they are, having any non-whites in the firing line will keep/set Labour back.

Be amazed if you did a poll of English folk and Abbot, Khan and Lammy didn’t come top 10 of the most hated ‘English’ people alive.
Sounds like you live in some vile, far-right, eastern-european, festering shithole.
The only people who have ever expressed those views to me in the past have been Sun-reading, educationally-subnormal thugs.
And even then, there would only ever be handful of these idiots, if that.

Have they been breeding!?

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« Reply #538 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 09:23:06 AM »

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« Reply #539 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 05:37:35 PM »
Sad as it, or as competent or incompetent as they are, having any non-whites in the firing line will keep/set Labour back.

Be amazed if you did a poll of English folk and Abbot, Khan and Lammy didn’t come top 10 of the most hated ‘English’ people alive.
Sounds like you live in some vile, far-right, eastern-european, festering shithole.
The only people who have ever expressed those views to me in the past have been Sun-reading, educationally-subnormal thugs.
And even then, there would only ever be handful of these idiots, if that.

Have they been breeding!?

I have no idea of which way is up any more
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« Reply #540 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 07:10:10 PM »
Unite backing RLB :anguish:

If she wins, the party is done for. Nothing has been learned from the past 4 years.

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« Reply #541 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 07:11:25 PM »
Unite backing RLB :anguish:

If she wins, the party is done for. Nothing has been learned from the past 4 years.

That was predictable.  Len McCluskey can f*** off.

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« Reply #542 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 07:26:42 PM »
Is Long Bailey as vulnerable to attack as Corbyn, or are you just saying anyone left wing is wrong?

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« Reply #543 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 08:06:29 PM »
Is Long Bailey as vulnerable to attack as Corbyn, or are you just saying anyone left wing is wrong?

Neither. Perhaps she has fewer skeletons in her closet, but a continuity candidate has no chance of winning an election under the current system.

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« Reply #544 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 08:16:43 PM »
She said she rated Corbyn's leadership as 10/10.  That to me says she doesn't think that he did anything wrong, and will just be looking to continue with the same losing strategy.

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« Reply #545 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 08:52:01 PM »
Is Long Bailey as vulnerable to attack as Corbyn, or are you just saying anyone left wing is wrong?

Will people trust her significantly more than Corbyn?
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« Reply #546 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 09:19:27 PM »
No idea, I know almost nothing about her.

I’m just trying to get people to say whether they think the lesson of the defeat is that a left winger can’t win.

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« Reply #547 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 09:23:03 PM »
She has a very small Diameter mouth
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« Reply #548 on: Friday 24 January 2020, 09:23:51 PM »
She has a very small Diameter mouth

I actually noticed that as well.

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« Reply #549 on: Sunday 26 January 2020, 05:35:01 PM »
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And people wonder why the left are disillusioned with our apparent guardians. Spend 3 years going on about the need for a woman, but oh, no, not that woman, she's run by the guys. I'm fully on the f***ing Starmer express, won't even rank RLB, but the nonsense used against her candidacy is pathetic, and certainly does Starmer few favours. Barrel scraping bullshit.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.