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Offline madras

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« Reply #1325 on: Monday 23 March 2020, 06:29:21 PM »
Salmond cleared on all charges.
Nine women and he's been cleared.
It seems a bit strange. Would nine women just 'make it up, to get at him'?
I doubt it.
Something's off...
Doesnt matter how many if none can be proved. That's how the law works.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

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« Reply #1326 on: Monday 23 March 2020, 06:34:33 PM »
I'm sure RT will welcome him back.

Offline madras

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« Reply #1327 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 12:47:55 AM »
Cummings has to be close to the exit now, we're a couple of weeks into this thing and no short slogan for Boris to hammer at repeatedly till enough people believe everything's good.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

Offline Disco

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« Reply #1328 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 01:48:11 AM »
No chance. He has 80% onside and willingly amplifying anything put out. The big problem is the socialist NHS. Before this kicked off they were doing well with soundbites to want to improve but also castigating those they wanted to suffer who worked and used the service at their expense. 

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« Reply #1329 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 07:54:29 AM »
The Discman knows the score.

Offline madras

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« Reply #1330 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 09:19:33 AM »
No chance. He has 80% onside and willingly amplifying anything put out. The big problem is the socialist NHS. Before this kicked off they were doing well with soundbites to want to improve but also castigating those they wanted to suffer who worked and used the service at their expense. 
I wasnt really being serious. It was more a little satire on the qualities of the Prime minister and UK politics.
Bullshitters misrepresent themselves to their audience not as liars do, that is, by deliberately making false claims about what is true. In fact, bullshit need not be untrue at all.

Rather, bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant.

Offline St1pe

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« Reply #1331 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 09:36:24 AM »
There was a pretty good BBC documentary on Cummings the other night. He seems like an absolute arsehole but fascinating to see how someone has managed to seize so much power. I didn’t know he was from Durham either.

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #1332 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 09:44:40 AM »
The comms around coronavirus have been terrible really, 'social distancing' and 'self isolation' are both really complicated negative terms with vague definitions. Got nothing on 'get brexit done' or s**** like that. I'm surprised they didn't push the 'stay home, save lives' thing more clearly.

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« Reply #1333 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 09:50:47 AM »
The comms around coronavirus have been terrible really, 'social distancing' and 'self isolation' are both really complicated negative terms with vague definitions. Got nothing on 'get brexit done' or s**** like that. I'm surprised they didn't push the 'stay home, save lives' thing more clearly.

Rishi wore out 'whatever it takes' in his first briefing. He was 100 x better the second time round when he dropped the slogans

The messaging is really off mind, it should be clear and concise that we are in a battle with logistics with the NHS and staying home etc is not going to make the virus any less serious (or not depending on individual symptoms) but it will help to keep the NHS flowing - both to cope with the virus and keep a 'normal' service going for other ailments.
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Online neesy111

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« Reply #1334 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 12:38:15 PM »
Jezza's last PMQ's.

Online Skeletor

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« Reply #1335 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 01:35:34 PM »
'Rock over London, Rock on Chicago! Wheaties: breakfast of champions.'

Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #1336 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 02:03:49 PM »
Yep. :lol:
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.

Offline kingkerouac

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« Reply #1337 on: Wednesday 25 March 2020, 02:45:33 PM »

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Offline Matt

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« Reply #1339 on: Friday 27 March 2020, 11:07:20 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/mar/27/tax-avoiders-coronavirus-bailouts

f*** no. Sorting the tax system out isn't a condition of a bailout. It just needs doing. And folk shouldn't have their futures determined by the tax domicile of their employer's major shareholders.

Offline Shelvey's Hair

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« Reply #1340 on: Saturday 28 March 2020, 10:14:41 AM »
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Offline Rafalove

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« Reply #1341 on: Saturday 28 March 2020, 12:50:54 PM »
I’m not one of those who think the British Empire was a good thing, though I do think our work in slavery was pretty good. We also seized over 1500 slave shops from the Caribbean doing our best to put an end to the practice. Just a shame about the looting of India, the opium wars, Tasmanian genocide, Kenyan atrocities and the actual invention of concentration camps.

Offline Disco

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« Reply #1342 on: Saturday 28 March 2020, 01:43:44 PM »
Biggest ever approval rating for Boris’ English Blues. Superb news for the real people of England.

Getting ill was an absolute PR masterstroke. Press already comparing him to Churchill and saying if he was Labour or a remoaner he wouldn’t have loved England enough to get sick.

Gonna be 8 long years as he’s going to have free reign to go absolutely hardcore when things return to normal. Voters will be wanking themselves silly at the idea of an austerity so brutal if it’s rightly focused on the young, urban and other vermin demographics so that they’ll never recover from it.
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Offline kingkerouac

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« Reply #1343 on: Yesterday at 10:33:01 AM »
Biggest ever approval rating for Boris’ English Blues. Superb news for the real people of England.

Getting ill was an absolute PR masterstroke. Press already comparing him to Churchill and saying if he was Labour or a remoaner he wouldn’t have loved England enough to get sick.

Gonna be 8 long years as he’s going to have free reign to go absolutely hardcore when things return to normal. Voters will be wanking themselves silly at the idea of an austerity so brutal if it’s rightly focused on the young, urban and other vermin demographics so that they’ll never recover from it.

I seriously doubt it...

Offline BlufPurdi

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« Reply #1344 on: Yesterday at 10:39:17 AM »
I'd really have to consider my support for Labour as a whole if Keir puts Rachel Reeves in a position of prominence. I'll accept all manners of s***, it's his ship to right, but she can f*** off. Absolutely f*** off and snuff it.
Making mistakes is how you learn.
Every generation must fight the same battles again and again and again. There is no final victory, and there is no final defeat, and so a little bit of history may help.
“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you exercise it? To whom are you accountable? And how can we get rid of you?” If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.
That is why no one with power likes democracy and that is why every generation must struggle to win it and keep it – including you and me, here and now.