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Offline TheNE40

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 12:27:52 pm »
Rumours online that the EFL are holding an emergency meeting to discuss this out of time £7m offer for Bury... watch this space

Offline Scoreboard82

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 02:41:31 pm »
I've started enjoying the EFL highlights on quest much more than MOTD. Premier league bores me silly these days.

i was honestly shocked by the standard and consistency of the goals during the highlights i watched, was incredible :lol:

Hartlepool and Harrogate both quite close to you aren't they?
Relatively close i suppose, though i'm happy with a mere passing interest in the lower leagues. I've started going to random league one and two grounds in a bid to 'do the 92' and am really enjoying my days out. At the same time i'm envious of some fans, who while small in numbers are able to passionately back their teams knowing the people at the top want the best for their club. In most cases anyway.

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #77 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 04:37:14 pm »
EFL not going back on their decision.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49509774
Steve Bruce, liar, s*** manager and general prick.

Offline HawK

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« Reply #78 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 04:51:16 pm »
Aye cause standing your ground and making a statement is exactly the right response, f***ers.

Offline TheNE40

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« Reply #79 on: Thursday 29 August 2019, 05:03:32 pm »
Bury statement here pretty scathing of the EFL here..

https://www.buryfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/bury-fc-club-statement/


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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #81 on: Friday 30 August 2019, 10:46:12 am »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7408485/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Dont-blame-elite-demise-Bury-fall-business.html

Sums up the reasons why we can't just expect the Premier League to pay for mismanagement, but it would be interesting to hear these football academics actually offer some kind of alternative solution. There's a duty of care here, and it should apply to everyone in football. A lot of people here are taking their money away from the Premier League this season and into the divisions below, for instance, which is a start. At the very least, you'd hope there'd be some more rallying calls to that end. It's not as if greater support in the lower leagues would damage the big brand; there's always a conveyor belt of customers waiting for an empty seat at a Premier League ground (as has been demonstrated at SJP).

The Premier League shouldn't front the bill. Fine, whatever. I'm sure the majority see the sense in that so hopefully we can just draw a line under it. What are we going to do then?
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Offline NEEJ

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« Reply #82 on: Friday 30 August 2019, 11:04:27 am »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7408485/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Dont-blame-elite-demise-Bury-fall-business.html

Sums up the reasons why we can't just expect the Premier League to pay for mismanagement, but it would be interesting to hear these football academics actually offer some kind of alternative solution. There's a duty of care here, and it should apply to everyone in football. A lot of people here are taking their money away from the Premier League this season and into the divisions below, for instance, which is a start. At the very least, you'd hope there'd be some more rallying calls to that end. It's not as if greater support if the lower leagues would damage the big brand; there's always a conveyor belt of customers waiting for an empty seat at a Premier League ground (as has been demonstrated at SJP).

The Premier League shouldn't front the bill. Fine, whatever. I'm sure the majority see the sense in that so hopefully we can just draw a line under it. What are we going to do then?
Unsurprisingly, that's a really sanctimonious piece from Samuel. Like you say, it's just one long criticism of how these clubs have been horrendously mismanaged with no preventative solutions offered. Of course it's not the duty of the PL/PL clubs to bail out their neighbours, but there has to be a more effective way to prevent these problems occurring in the first place.

Offline Stifleaay

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #83 on: Friday 30 August 2019, 11:11:24 am »
s*** article written by someone who knows the price of money but value of nothing else. A guy who has backed the likes of Ashley in the past, and no doubt see’s football clubs as businesses, fans as customers etc.
The Premier League probably should do more. The EFL though certainly can do more. The same day Bury were being told to p*ss off out of the league, was the same day Premier League clubs entered the EFL Cup, with somewhere between 10%-20% of all gate receipts going direct to the EFL. Where does the EFL spend their money? There is even less said about where their money goes than where the Premier League give theirs. It’s known that the EFL clubs get virtually f*** all for league positions. There is no evidence to suggest that they give significant money out to clubs for academies etc.

As has been said, the first time Bury was in trouble, the EFL could have employed an administrator/accounted to take control of the club, get it back on a good financial footing, and possibly sold it off down the line Bury supporters. Instead they let a guy buy it for £1, a man who they have allegedly deemed not fit enough to buy a club before.
The thing is the EFL could have easily done something about it, and should have. The likes of Martin Samual etc though want you to think they couldn’t and shouldn’t, because if you think that, then the only solution is for fans/customers to go and spend as much money as they can at their chosen club, and put more money into the pockets of his friends like Ashley.
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Offline Yorkie

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #84 on: Friday 30 August 2019, 11:19:20 am »
Think you're probably right about Samuel, Stif. At least the poor old Premier League has got someone fighting its corner though, eh.

A more meaningful take from Rory Smith in the NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/sports/soccer/bury-efl-pogba-twitter.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fsoccer&action=click&contentCollection=soccer&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=4&pgtype=sectionfront

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #85 on: Friday 30 August 2019, 11:47:10 am »
the premier leagues mere existance is playing a part in teams spending beyond their means in hopes of getting promotion and getting their hands on the tv cash and justifying that risk. championship overall wage to revenue percentage in 17/18 was 115% with individual clubs having up to 200% of revenue being spent on wages
http://financialfootballnews.com/championship-2018-finances-wages/

then you throw in the parachute payments distorting the competition and the changes to academy rules on cachement area meaning premier league academies hoover up all the most talented youngsters so even the chance of selling off a talented young player for big cash is reduced. So all in all I do hope for a massive crash in the tv money to watch the premier league suffer

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« Reply #86 on: Saturday 31 August 2019, 02:40:32 pm »
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Offline Gorilla

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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 3 September 2019, 03:51:02 pm »
EFL have agreed to discuss this and take another look so they may be back.

Offline TheNE40

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 3 September 2019, 04:36:43 pm »
Be very interesting to see what comes of this. I obviously want them back within the League structure but it could set a dangerous precedent for the future (and that may be what the EFL could be mindful of).

Offline geordiedean

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« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 3 September 2019, 05:06:14 pm »
Be very interesting to see what comes of this. I obviously want them back within the League structure but it could set a dangerous precedent for the future (and that may be what the EFL could be mindful of).

I think the best outcome is if the EFL and the National League can come to a trade off that results in Bury being dropped into the National league which will then result in an extra promotion spot fot the national league this season
and now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle

Offline Yorkie

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« Reply #90 on: Tuesday 3 September 2019, 09:29:58 pm »
If there's genuine hope of a genuine investor who can give assurances that bills will be paid, hopefully it'll go to a member vote and approximately 72 teams will agree on whatever feasible and fair method is put forward to welcome them back.

And then it has to go down as the one of the greatest red flags the English game has ever seen. Hopefully we can have Bury back and the whole fiasco catalyses a massive, fundamental shake-up. Dismissing the needless sentiment and ownership of 'the 92' should be where it starts.

Offline jdckelly

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Re: Bury FC expelled from the EFL
« Reply #91 on: Tuesday 3 September 2019, 09:36:38 pm »
Be very interesting to see what comes of this. I obviously want them back within the League structure but it could set a dangerous precedent for the future (and that may be what the EFL could be mindful of).
on the one hand I agree but on the other surely its better than letting a club go extinct for the idiocy of a few bad owners and utter neglect of the EFL