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Offline Yelevats

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #3625 on: Sunday 10 January 2021, 09:12:13 PM »
At least Gouffran showed some effort

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« Reply #3626 on: Sunday 10 January 2021, 09:14:21 PM »
At least Gouffran showed some effort

Scored a few goals also
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« Reply #3627 on: Sunday 10 January 2021, 09:35:40 PM »
I truly hope the rumours of him not actually being £40m and the fee being exaggerated by the club with lots of add ons is true.

I can't think of a worse player in history that has been transferred for such a sum. Sure there's been some shocking transfers over the years but this feels like the most expensive flop if he really cost as much as they said.

He's got to be up there, surely. Really feel like it flies under the radar a bit as well. He's been a f***ing horrible signing. :lol:

I mean there'll always be Torres who'll go down as arguably the worst flop when it comes to transfer fee Vs. return, but even he scored somewhere close to 50 goals for Chelsea including some crucial ones in the Champions League. There's Shevchenko for Chelsea as well but, again, twenty-odd goals in a couple of seasons. Hardly the apocalytpically bad return that big Jeff has for us.

Carroll? Kepa, maybe, if we can include non-strikers? Weird ones like Drinkwater, if you can call that a 'flop'? Soldado?

Benteke to Liverpool for 42m is very similar.

Wilfried Bony, Vincent Jansen,Eliaquim Mangala,

Bony seems to be a free agent. Though I think he completely sacked football as soon as the Man City payday happened :lol: shame as he was solid.
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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #3628 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 03:22:00 AM »
£72 million pounds ...

I'll be watching the games, and I'll be talking about the teams. If it's a disaster it will be quite humorous and exactly what Mike Ashley deserves and to be honest I'll quite enjoy it. I am totally indifferent to results and the team success going forward.

Now, in certain games should the team do well, I will be happy more for the players, because I feel bad for them mostly, and I still want to see some of them do well. I will still feel comfortable giving the team credit when they do well. I just don't care about any outcome at this point and none of my money goes into anything to do with Mike Ashley's operations.

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« Reply #3629 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 04:16:46 AM »
Least Arsenal got a couple of goals and the assist for the winning goal in the FA Cup final out of it.
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« Reply #3630 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 09:46:46 AM »
Alot of the other players being mentioned here, while perhaps have under performed and didn't deserve their price tag, all have shown far greater ability in their careers so far than Joelinton.

You also have to take into account that the clubs mentioned often spend far greater sums than we do regularly. £30m is about average for one of their squad players. Joelinton has not shown before or since we signed him, anything to suggest he should be valued anywhere close to £40m.

For a club that famously does not spend large sums on players. Then you have to suspect that this is either a massive agent/club scam or its one of the most embarrassing scouting jobs of all time.

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« Reply #3631 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 09:56:02 AM »
It's like a really extreme version of the Facundo Ferreyra loan. Obviously something dodgy.

It's probably heavily incentive-based and we haven't spent anywhere near that, and it was used to placate the fans. Exciting, young, big-money Brazilian, you could argue it worked for a bit!
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« Reply #3632 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 09:56:16 AM »
Taking away the fee and looking at him in isolation he offers very little , he’s had a very brief upturn in some sort of form but since and during xmas he’s looked disinterested, slow, almost amateurish at times .

Sorry to harp on but we need to get rid or at least drop the f***er.
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Offline Minhosa

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« Reply #3633 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 11:46:30 AM »
I've defended him quite a lot given he's playing for an absolute dinosaur and being coached by a pair of halfwits.

HOWEVER, I've now completely lost patience with the fella. I could be a lot more forgiving if he actually put the f***ing effort in but he's a half-arsed c*** as well as a total waste of money.

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« Reply #3634 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 11:53:41 AM »
It's like a really extreme version of the Facundo Ferreyra loan. Obviously something dodgy.

It's probably heavily incentive-based and we haven't spent anywhere near that, and it was used to placate the fans. Exciting, young, big-money Brazilian, you could argue it worked for a bit!
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« Reply #3635 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 03:46:16 PM »
It's like a really extreme version of the Facundo Ferreyra loan. Obviously something dodgy.

It's probably heavily incentive-based and we haven't spent anywhere near that, and it was used to placate the fans. Exciting, young, big-money Brazilian, you could argue it worked for a bit!

But with Chucky and Xisco it was obvious that there was some other reason they were brought here, the managers would never actually play them. How do you account for Bruce including in the starting line most every week? I mean I know the answer I'm going to get but....:lol:

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« Reply #3636 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 05:00:08 PM »
It's like a really extreme version of the Facundo Ferreyra loan. Obviously something dodgy.

It's probably heavily incentive-based and we haven't spent anywhere near that, and it was used to placate the fans. Exciting, young, big-money Brazilian, you could argue it worked for a bit!

But with Chucky and Xisco it was obvious that there was some other reason they were brought here, the managers would never actually play them. How do you account for Bruce including in the starting line most every week? I mean I know the answer I'm going to get but....:lol:

Xisco was better than this lazy f***er.
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« Reply #3637 on: Monday 11 January 2021, 05:01:46 PM »
I've defended him quite a lot given he's playing for an absolute dinosaur and being coached by a pair of halfwits.

HOWEVER, I've now completely lost patience with the fella. I could be a lot more forgiving if he actually put the f***ing effort in but he's a half-arsed c*** as well as a total waste of money.

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« Reply #3638 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 01:20:52 AM »
It's like a really extreme version of the Facundo Ferreyra loan. Obviously something dodgy.

It's probably heavily incentive-based and we haven't spent anywhere near that, and it was used to placate the fans. Exciting, young, big-money Brazilian, you could argue it worked for a bit!

But with Chucky and Xisco it was obvious that there was some other reason they were brought here, the managers would never actually play them. How do you account for Bruce including in the starting line most every week? I mean I know the answer I'm going to get but....:lol:

Xisco was better than this lazy f***er.

I thought “Xisco is better than...” would never be said about a starting NUFC striker. I think it’s hyperbole, but it’s pretty striking that the comparison is even suggested.
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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #3639 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 07:08:40 AM »
Xisco technically has a better goal scoring record with us. :lol:

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« Reply #3640 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 07:10:58 AM »
If there is no above (or contractual?) influence to keep picking him then it shows up Bruce to be an even worse manager than he currently is and that takes some doing!

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« Reply #3641 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 09:02:50 AM »
1st name on the sheet for tonight
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« Reply #3642 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 09:15:47 AM »
I would actually agree with his selection tonight because Sheffield United are a big side and we need his height for set pieces. Say what you want about his general play and ability, but he adds something to the team aerially when we defend even if it is just a taller body

Offline Minhosa

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« Reply #3643 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 10:02:15 AM »
I would actually agree with his selection tonight because Sheffield United are a big side and we need his height for set pieces. Say what you want about his general play and ability, but he adds something to the team aerially when we defend even if it is just a taller body

I'd rate his heading ability at no more than 5/10 tbh.

Offline Rod

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« Reply #3644 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 12:20:21 PM »
I would actually agree with his selection tonight because Sheffield United are a big side and we need his height for set pieces. Say what you want about his general play and ability, but he adds something to the team aerially when we defend even if it is just a taller body
He is an absolute crap header of a ball.  If that's your way of thinking then Gayle is twice the threat in the air.

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« Reply #3645 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 12:23:45 PM »
We absolutely can’t be picking our attackers based on how well they defend set pieces.

FFS.

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« Reply #3646 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 12:44:09 PM »
I would actually agree with his selection tonight because Sheffield United are a big side and we need his height for set pieces. Say what you want about his general play and ability, but he adds something to the team aerially when we defend even if it is just a taller body

But he’s s*** in the air?
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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #3647 on: Tuesday 12 January 2021, 01:08:10 PM »
We absolutely can’t be picking our attackers based on how well they defend set pieces.

FFS.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

This club man. We are so depressingly bad.

In actuality, we might as well pick them based on how they do defend set pieces because they don't do any attacking.
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Now, in certain games should the team do well, I will be happy more for the players, because I feel bad for them mostly, and I still want to see some of them do well. I will still feel comfortable giving the team credit when they do well. I just don't care about any outcome at this point and none of my money goes into anything to do with Mike Ashley's operations.

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #3648 on: Friday 15 January 2021, 01:17:21 PM »
he'll be back in against arsenal.
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« Reply #3649 on: Friday 15 January 2021, 03:42:41 PM »
he'll be back in against arsenal.


Good because he’s been better than almost everyone in that shower on Tuesday night
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