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Offline Minhosa

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1575 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 01:23:50 PM »
Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls.

Totally agree with this in bold.

There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing.

Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game.

For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems.

Offline TRon

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« Reply #1576 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 01:42:39 PM »
Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls.

Totally agree with this in bold.

There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing.

Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game.

For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems.

That's what happened on Saturday. Gayle was leaping as high as he could to try to win headers, but he's pretty small so was never going to work. Carroll can't even get off the ground these days, just ends up falling over when he tussles with a defender. There's probably a better way to make use of the players we've got, but Bruce hasn't got the first idea what to do other than pat the players on their arses and gee them up from the sidelines.

Offline Minhosa

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1577 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 02:26:14 PM »
Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls.

Totally agree with this in bold.

There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing.

Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game.

For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems.

That's what happened on Saturday. Gayle was leaping as high as he could to try to win headers, but he's pretty small so was never going to work. Carroll can't even get off the ground these days, just ends up falling over when he tussles with a defender. There's probably a better way to make use of the players we've got, but Bruce hasn't got the first idea what to do other than pat the players on their arses and gee them up from the sidelines.

Yeah exactly. And this Joelinton fella, I see Caulkin etc suggesting play him wide left of the forward which I just can't see at all. He's not fast, can't thread a ball, doesn't seem to have a trick, can barely score goals. I don't see what he brings to the team out wide at all.

This transfer requires investigation. Same agent as ASM?

At least we can rely on the local press to push this angle and ask all the right questions though............... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: Monday 2 December 2019, 02:59:56 PM by Minhosa »

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1578 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 02:35:45 PM »
Gayle is done imo
:lol: I dunno. I'm starting to think it was us.
Trump will do well man. Don't know why but I really feel this will be the case. Really hope it will come to be that way.

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Offline KaKa

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1579 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 02:39:13 PM »
Think Gayle has been unlucky with the teams and more importantly the managers he has been with when in the premier league.

I could see him being used the way Pukki has been at Norwich and having much more success than he has up to now in the premier league.

He should have done everything to join Leeds and Bielsa this past summer, and looked to come up and feature with them next year.
I'll be watching the games, and I'll be talking about the teams. If it's a disaster it will be quite humorous and exactly what Mike Ashley deserves and to be honest I'll quite enjoy it. I am totally indifferent to results and the team success going forward.

Now, in certain games should the team do well, I will be happy more for the players, because I feel bad for them mostly, and I still want to see some of them do well. I will still feel comfortable giving the team credit when they do well. I just don't care about any outcome at this point and none of my money goes into anything to do with Mike Ashley's operations.

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1580 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 02:47:22 PM »
Pretty mad that we've scored 1 goal from all of our attackers in 14 games, and we've got 16 points.

Radge stat when you really think about it.  :lol:

Offline Ian W

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« Reply #1581 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 04:30:29 PM »
Think Gayle has been unlucky with the teams and more importantly the managers he has been with when in the premier league.

I could see him being used the way Pukki has been at Norwich and having much more success than he has up to now in the premier league.

He should have done everything to join Leeds and Bielsa this past summer, and looked to come up and feature with them next year.

Agree, I’m surprised how few people seem to think anything of him. He’s not top level of course, but he’s a decent player and sharp finisher.

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1582 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 06:08:55 PM »
Think Gayle has been unlucky with the teams and more importantly the managers he has been with when in the premier league.

I could see him being used the way Pukki has been at Norwich and having much more success than he has up to now in the premier league.

He should have done everything to join Leeds and Bielsa this past summer, and looked to come up and feature with them next year.

Agree, I’m surprised how few people seem to think anything of him. He’s not top level of course, but he’s a decent player and sharp finisher.

Still think he would have had a relatively good season for us, first one after promotion, if he hadn't got that injury.

Offline Optimistic Nut

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1583 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 07:17:39 PM »
End of that season he was missing genuine sitters. One thing he has is scoring goals and if he’s not doing that then he’s no use. Think Rafa saw that and combined with the injuries he was always going to be let go. Seem to remember a couple of the games when Slimani played in particular.
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Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1584 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 08:43:13 PM »
Slimani was boss.

Offline triggs

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1585 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 08:45:06 PM »
Slimani literally started 1 game for us. 131 minutes overall :lol:
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Offline Kanji

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1586 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 08:53:26 PM »
he was awesome in that match versus Arsenal, man.
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« Reply #1587 on: Monday 2 December 2019, 09:03:59 PM »
End of that season he was missing genuine sitters. One thing he has is scoring goals and if he’s not doing that then he’s no use. Think Rafa saw that and combined with the injuries he was always going to be let go. Seem to remember a couple of the games when Slimani played in particular.

Oh aye, without a doubt. but his injury left him short of pre-season training and his lack of sharpness, coming in, really affected his confidence. He was never going to match the likes of Aguero but with a good start to the season he could have got 12-15 goals.

All purely incidental now, like.

Offline TRon

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1588 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 07:04:31 AM »
Slimani literally started 1 game for us. 131 minutes overall :lol:


He did, but in that one game he showed what a difference a striker with some pace and presence can make. That said, our football had a bit more purpose at that time, we weren't winging high balls at a 5'9 striker.

Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #1589 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 07:17:27 AM »
Was it Huddersfield or Southampton at home (maybe both) where he came on and caused chaos. Apart from the WBA cameo where he got the ban he pretty much did what Carroll is supposed to be doing now in his couple of games.
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Offline Paully

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« Reply #1590 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 07:45:27 AM »
Was it Huddersfield or Southampton at home (maybe both) where he came on and caused chaos. Apart from the WBA cameo where he got the ban he pretty much did what Carroll is supposed to be doing now in his couple of games.

He did well at home to Arsenal too - played a big part in the winner!

Offline triggs

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1591 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 08:56:56 AM »
If you look at his thread he had a few good cameos off the bench but was poor in the one game he started. This isn't a dig at Slimani, I just think it's pointless bringing him up as he played less than 1.5 games for us in total
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Offline Kanji

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1592 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 11:29:24 AM »
He was simply never fit and when he finally did get on the pitch - did very well in the sub appearances and had a poor game in the one he started. Never really mattered anyway as we were never going to sign him permanently and we ended up getting Rondon.
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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1593 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 11:31:03 AM »
Been class this season upfront with Ben Yedder.

Offline Joey Linton

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1594 on: Tuesday 3 December 2019, 12:11:08 PM »
He's been rubbish overall, but i'd far rather persist with him than play Carroll and trigger his contract extension.

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1595 on: Thursday 5 December 2019, 11:21:28 AM »

Offline Disco

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1596 on: Thursday 5 December 2019, 11:22:55 AM »
Bent. As. f***.

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The Magpies scouted Joelinton extensively last season with both Steve Nickson and Mick Tait spending plenty of quality time in Germany viewing games in which the Alianca-born player appeared in various positions.

Indeed, United liked the potential of a player that could also be effective both out wide and as a second striker.

Liked it so much he's never played there for us. Good work Steve and Mick.

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1597 on: Thursday 5 December 2019, 11:31:26 AM »

Bullshit alert.

Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #1598 on: Thursday 5 December 2019, 12:30:15 PM »
Bent. As. f***.

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The Magpies scouted Joelinton extensively last season with both Steve Nickson and Mick Tait spending plenty of quality time in Germany viewing games in which the Alianca-born player appeared in various positions.

Indeed, United liked the potential of a player that could also be effective both out wide and as a second striker.

Liked it so much he's never played there for us. Good work Steve and Mick.

And yet do The Chronicle pull Bruce up on this? Do they f***.

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Offline Ian W

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Re: Joelinton
« Reply #1599 on: Thursday 5 December 2019, 12:33:51 PM »
Problem with playing him as a second striker is, you need another striker.