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Offline LoveItIfWeBeatU

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #450 on: Tuesday 11 December 2018, 06:47:44 pm »
You can just guarantee the first time VARS gets used in a game involving us, it's going to go against us and we get a goal ruled out, or get a penalty given against us  :lol:

On the positive side, for that to happen it would mean we had avoided relegation this season and were playing in the Premiership next season.
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Offline AsprillasShinPad

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #451 on: Saturday 15 December 2018, 04:29:49 pm »
After the string of bent decisions we've had against us this season, the debate is over.  Someone please lock this thread.

Offline TRon

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #452 on: Saturday 15 December 2018, 04:56:18 pm »
Still half expecting one of these refs to award a pen against us, then run up and whack it in himself.

Offline BlueStar

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #453 on: Wednesday 19 December 2018, 08:34:11 pm »
Going to be used in our cup game vs Blackburn
http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/dec/19/fa-cup-third-round-var-191218

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #454 on: Wednesday 19 December 2018, 08:36:29 pm »
You can just guarantee the first time VARS gets used in a game involving us, it's going to go against us and we get a goal ruled out, or get a penalty given against us  :lol:

Nailed on.

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Offline sbnufc

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #457 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 12:59:39 pm »
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2594607.html?iv=true&iv=true

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Paris Saint-Germain – Manchester United FC
Penalty award - 90'

The VAR, after checking various different angles available to him, recommended to the referee an on-field review following the penalty area incident.

Given that the referee did not recognise the incident clearly during live play (referred to as serious missed incident in the VAR protocol) an on-field review was conducted.

Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick.

All the above-mentioned decisions were made in full compliance with the VAR protocol.

Offline SteV

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #458 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 01:29:21 pm »
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2594607.html?iv=true&iv=true

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Paris Saint-Germain – Manchester United FC
Penalty award - 90'

The VAR, after checking various different angles available to him, recommended to the referee an on-field review following the penalty area incident.

Given that the referee did not recognise the incident clearly during live play (referred to as serious missed incident in the VAR protocol) an on-field review was conducted.

Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick.

All the above-mentioned decisions were made in full compliance with the VAR protocol.

Looking forward to everyone defending like penguins from now on...

Offline JCONA

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #459 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 04:46:55 pm »
Absolute bullshit. The ball was blasted at him and had a trajectory towards the moon.

Mcmanaman was almost laughing about it on the commentary, if it was awards against man u they'd all be furious.

VAR is absolutely awful

Offline Kaizero

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #460 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 05:01:33 pm »
VAR is great.
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Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #461 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 06:13:14 pm »
"Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick."

Not sure how you can blame VAR for this. This is about interpretation. It's like blaming your glasses for watching a volcano erupt.

Offline neesy111

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #462 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 06:15:49 pm »
"Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick."

Not sure how you can blame VAR for this. This is about interpretation. It's like blaming your glasses for watching a volcano erupt.

The referee had 2 mins to check the incident, if he can't see the distance to speed in that time then he shouldn't be in the job.  There's no point in var if it's not going to correct the clear and obvious errors, would rather see left it as it is.

Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #463 on: Friday 8 March 2019, 06:19:14 pm »
"Following the on-field review, the referee confirmed that the distance that the ball travelled was not short and the impact could therefore not be unexpected. The defender’s arm was not close to the body, which made the defender’s body bigger thus resulting in the ball being stopped from travelling in the direction of the goal. The referee, therefore, awarded a penalty kick."

Not sure how you can blame VAR for this. This is about interpretation. It's like blaming your glasses for watching a volcano erupt.

The referee had 2 mins to check the incident, if he can't see the distance to speed in that time then he shouldn't be in the job.  There's no point in var if it's not going to correct the clear and obvious errors, would rather see left it as it is.

We're in agreement with the outcome, but you and I seem to be blaming two different things. I don't think it's the technology's fault here, and VAR, like all tech, can be used for good as well as bad. Clearly the incompetent refs are the issue. I'd say let VAR expose these frauds, over time this will FORCE the refs, FA and UEFA to improve.

Offline SteV

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #464 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 10:20:16 am »
It struck me when looking at that glorious picture of the crowd following Perez's second goal, this is the kind of thing that VAR is going to take away from us. And I don't just mean because it was offside, and hence would subsequently have been disallowed. Even if Rondon had been onside, they would have referred it to be checked. So you would have had those few seconds of total joy, then the ref would have been like, hold on lads, we're just checking VAR to see if it counts. So everybody puts celebrations on hold while they check it for a couple of minutes. Oh, it's alright, start your celebrations again.

VAR will undoubtedly result in more 'right' decisions being made, certainly in respect of offside anyway, so in that sense it's difficult to argue it's a 'bad' thing. But, IMO, it's definitely going to take something away from the matchday experience. Even if you're just watching on the telly. Those spontaneous moments of sheer joy in the aftermath of a goal, so well captured in the Perez picture, are going to be diluted, and that is to the detriment of the game.

Offline Wullie

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #465 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 10:30:45 am »
:thup: One of the things I hate most about it.
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Offline samag

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #466 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:05:19 am »
It struck me when looking at that glorious picture of the crowd following Perez's second goal, this is the kind of thing that VAR is going to take away from us. And I don't just mean because it was offside, and hence would subsequently have been disallowed. Even if Rondon had been onside, they would have referred it to be checked. So you would have had those few seconds of total joy, then the ref would have been like, hold on lads, we're just checking VAR to see if it counts. So everybody puts celebrations on hold while they check it for a couple of minutes. Oh, it's alright, start your celebrations again.

VAR will undoubtedly result in more 'right' decisions being made, certainly in respect of offside anyway, so in that sense it's difficult to argue it's a 'bad' thing. But, IMO, it's definitely going to take something away from the matchday experience. Even if you're just watching on the telly. Those spontaneous moments of sheer joy in the aftermath of a goal, so well captured in the Perez picture, are going to be diluted, and that is to the detriment of the game.
To be honest the V.A .R has not done the game any favors  here in Australia  . Seems to be just as many bad decisions. 
Rather  not have it myself , 

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #467 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:09:19 am »
I can't believe any NUFC fan doesn't want VAR like. :lol:

Offline SteV

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #468 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:20:28 am »
I can't believe any NUFC fan doesn't want VAR like. :lol:

My point isn't really about whether it's going to benefit NUFC particularly (although just because we've had the rough end of decisions over the past couple of seasons, and would have theoretically benefited from it's use, doesn't necessarily mean it's going to play out like that going forward, but anyway). It's more about what it takes away from the game as a whole (from a fan perspective).

Perhaps we shouldn't care about being joyous in the moment, during a game. Perhaps we should all just be happy afterwards that the correct decision was made and we can all agree on that (unless it involves a handball decision obviously, which is a complete shambles at the moment).

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #469 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:24:17 am »
Yup, that's the price we will have to pay to get more correct decisions, which is fine with me.

Offline SteV

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« Reply #470 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:28:13 am »
Yup, that's the price we will have to pay to get more correct decisions, which is fine with me.

We fundamentally disagree there then.

Offline Disco

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #471 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:33:43 am »
:thup: One of the things I hate most about it.

Yup. It's s****.

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #472 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:45:27 am »
To be honest when i'm at the match and we score, i always delay my celebration by a second to see if the lino has his flag up or anything anyway.

Offline SteV

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« Reply #473 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:49:50 am »
To be honest when i'm at the match and we score, i always delay my celebration by a second to see if the lino has his flag up or anything anyway.

Bit weird mate  :lol:

Nonetheless, hanging fire for a second or so is a bit different to a couple of minutes...

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) - to be used in the Premier League next season
« Reply #474 on: Monday 11 March 2019, 11:51:51 am »
To be honest when i'm at the match and we score, i always delay my celebration by a second to see if the lino has his flag up or anything anyway.

Bit weird mate  :lol:

Nonetheless, hanging fire for a second or so is a bit different to a couple of minutes...

So no one else looks at the lino to check? :lol: