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VAR to be used in the Premier League, are you:

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Offline thomas

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #200 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:47:19 PM »
As long as people are authoritatively stating as FACT their OPINION that it would slow the game to a crawl as every decision would be challenged, I'm going to state my opinion as fact that it would be used judiciously and wisely and be a benefit to the game.

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #201 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:49:08 PM »
As long as people are authoritatively stating as FACT their OPINION that it would slow the game to a crawl as every decision would be challenged, I'm going to state my opinion as fact that it would be used judiciously and wisely and be a benefit to the game.

Not sure anyone is stating their opinion as a fact.
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Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #202 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:49:55 PM »
There's absolutely no reason why having a review system, even a strict one where it's only ONE freaking referral per side, so two stoppages max per game, can't be quick and beneficial to the game. It will still do more to reduce human error without getting in most poeple's way.

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #203 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:53:09 PM »
Challenges or referrals would literally be the worst possible way this could be implemented
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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #204 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:54:32 PM »
So we're back to square one :lol: No compromise or solutions can be suggested because there will always be someone who'll come by saying why the solutions to problems raised are "the worst."

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #205 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 07:58:01 PM »
So we're back to square one :lol: No compromise or solutions can be suggested because there will always be someone who'll come by saying why the solutions to problems raised are "the worst."
I'm not on any side here really, probably more for the pro VAR side if anything. Challenges would be absolutely s*** though. Just use it for offsides that lead to goals, penalties and red cards
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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #206 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:00:49 PM »
The more I think about it. The less I want it used. Handballs sure. Offsides maybe. Fouls? Nah. 

A foul is too subjective.  Offsides happen very frequently. Unless there whole body is offside I would rather not use it for that. 

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #207 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:03:18 PM »
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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #208 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:06:22 PM »
I also wonder how many titles, cups, relegations (and f***ing World Cups) will be decided while we trial this s**** out too. Considering the whole point of it is meant to make the game more fair, over the next few years we're going to see some pretty unfair s*** because of it.

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #209 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:11:11 PM »
I also wonder how many titles, cups, relegations (and f***ing World Cups) will be decided while we trial this s**** out too. Considering the whole point of it is meant to make the game more fair, over the next few years we're going to see some pretty unfair s*** because of it.
It will be more fair than if its just left the way it is surely?
"Lots of young fellas runnin' around in shorts, that's the kind of think you like looking at, and I bet you like that too, only you're probably imagining what they'd look like without shorts, you're sitting there imagining that with a big smile on your face, ya dirty fecker"

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #210 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:12:28 PM »
The whole purist perspective is funny because the same purists seem to have forgotten or not paid attention to the plethora of changes to actual laws and rules of the game from country to country, from, yes, Kinshasa to Germany, even differing from competition to competition. Golden Goal rule, constant tinkering with the official off-side rule, the 6-second rule, etc. I wasn't aware all these had such a massive impact on me enjoying a pub league when these rules were being f***ed about with from country to country, league to league.

Every single one of those rule changes you mention could be/were/are implemented at all levels. There is no reason they can't, unlike VAR.

You clearly don't give a s*** about any football that's not televised, that's up to you. I don't watch much of the lower leagues either. But I care about the fundamental basics of the football pyramid across our country (and by extension the world) and don't believe the top flight should have special status and effectively its own rules.

Offline Hanshithispantz

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #211 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:15:13 PM »
But the way it is is inherently 'flawed' but that's how the game has been for decades. VAR is meant to make the game 'bulletproof', so when they f*** up and lose someone the World Cup it's going to feel far, far worse than just a referee who missed something.

Losing a world cup because FIFA randomly decided to trial some s**** system?

Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #212 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:16:01 PM »
The whole purist perspective is funny because the same purists seem to have forgotten or not paid attention to the plethora of changes to actual laws and rules of the game from country to country, from, yes, Kinshasa to Germany, even differing from competition to competition. Golden Goal rule, constant tinkering with the official off-side rule, the 6-second rule, etc. I wasn't aware all these had such a massive impact on me enjoying a pub league when these rules were being f***ed about with from country to country, league to league.

Every single one of those rule changes you mention could be/were/are implemented at all levels. There is no reason they can't, unlike VAR.

You clearly don't give a s*** about any football that's not televised, that's up to you. I don't watch much of the lower leagues either. But I care about the fundamental basics of the football pyramid across our country (and by extension the world) and don't believe the top flight should have special status and effectively its own rules.

What exactly does this have to do with televised or not? Whether in stadia or at home, you're gonna have to sit through video replays if VAR is implemented. And no need think I "don't give a s***" when I've said time and again that the goal is to make football fairer as a game, not be some elitist TV-watching w***** as you seem to have assumed I am.

Offline Hanshithispantz

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #213 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:17:25 PM »
It has nothing to do with being a purist, VAR just doesn't improve the sport for me. If I think something actually improves the game then I'll probably be all for it.


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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #214 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:17:56 PM »
But the way it is is inherently 'flawed' but that's how the game has been for decades. VAR is meant to make the game 'bulletproof', so when they f*** up and lose someone the World Cup it's going to feel far, far worse than just a referee who missed something.

Losing a world cup because FIFA randomly decided to trial some s**** system?
Much lower chance of losing due to VAR than losing due to incompetent reffing though
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Offline Wullie

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #215 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:18:31 PM »
The whole purist perspective is funny because the same purists seem to have forgotten or not paid attention to the plethora of changes to actual laws and rules of the game from country to country, from, yes, Kinshasa to Germany, even differing from competition to competition. Golden Goal rule, constant tinkering with the official off-side rule, the 6-second rule, etc. I wasn't aware all these had such a massive impact on me enjoying a pub league when these rules were being f***ed about with from country to country, league to league.

Every single one of those rule changes you mention could be/were/are implemented at all levels. There is no reason they can't, unlike VAR.

You clearly don't give a s*** about any football that's not televised, that's up to you. I don't watch much of the lower leagues either. But I care about the fundamental basics of the football pyramid across our country (and by extension the world) and don't believe the top flight should have special status and effectively its own rules.

What exactly does this have to do with televised or not? Whether in stadia or at home, you're gonna have to sit through video replays if VAR is implemented. And no need think I "don't give a s***" when I've said time and again that the goal is to make football fairer as a game, not be some elitist TV-watching w***** as you seem to have assumed I am.

Absolutely kidding yourself if you think clubs are going to be installing video screens, or even that replays will be shown in grounds at all.

It has everything to do with television.
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Offline DJ_NUFC

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #216 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:20:00 PM »
The whole purist perspective is funny because the same purists seem to have forgotten or not paid attention to the plethora of changes to actual laws and rules of the game from country to country, from, yes, Kinshasa to Germany, even differing from competition to competition. Golden Goal rule, constant tinkering with the official off-side rule, the 6-second rule, etc. I wasn't aware all these had such a massive impact on me enjoying a pub league when these rules were being f***ed about with from country to country, league to league.

Every single one of those rule changes you mention could be/were/are implemented at all levels. There is no reason they can't, unlike VAR.

You clearly don't give a s*** about any football that's not televised, that's up to you. I don't watch much of the lower leagues either. But I care about the fundamental basics of the football pyramid across our country (and by extension the world) and don't believe the top flight should have special status and effectively its own rules.

What exactly does this have to do with televised or not? Whether in stadia or at home, you're gonna have to sit through video replays if VAR is implemented. And no need think I "don't give a s***" when I've said time and again that the goal is to make football fairer as a game, not be some elitist TV-watching w***** as you seem to have assumed I am.

Absolutely kidding yourself if you think clubs are going to be installing video screens, or even that replays will be shown in grounds at all.

That's something I've assumed would happen. If it doesn't, as part of VAR, then yeah, the in-person watching experience is going to differ from telly. That's an interesting difference I hadn't thought about, as I'd assumed they would be installing screens.

Offline Figures 1-0 Football

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #217 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:21:50 PM »
Not sure where we could position a screen at SJP where everyone could see it, for example.

I’d imagine Man Utd may have similar difficulties.

You’d not be able to see it from the back of the away end at Liverpool or Chelsea too, just off the top of my head.
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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #218 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:22:34 PM »
Fair points. Does change the way I imagined VAR being rolled out.

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #219 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:23:48 PM »
Make football as a game fairer by implementing a convoluted system of correcting mistakes (righto) but only for the 0.3% of English football league clubs that already have the most money by a million miles. :lol:

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #220 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:24:52 PM »
Clearly the conservative rhetoric in this thread is taking on toxic levels when it comes to tone :lol:

Calm down, for f***'s sake.

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #221 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:25:41 PM »
Make football as a game fairer by implementing a convoluted system of correcting mistakes (righto) but only for the 0.3% of English football league clubs that already have the most money by a million miles. :lol:
Is there goalline technology in the lower leagues?
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« Reply #222 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:26:02 PM »
I'm fine. :laugh:

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Re: Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will not be used in the PL next season
« Reply #224 on: Wednesday 25 April 2018, 08:26:27 PM »
Make football as a game fairer by implementing a convoluted system of correcting mistakes (righto) but only for the 0.3% of English football league clubs that already have the most money by a million miles. :lol:
Is there goalline technology in the lower leagues?

Nope. Already covered that.