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firetotheworks

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12550 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 10:42:11 am »
Well it's the right day for it.

Offline Ketsbaia

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« Reply #12551 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 10:57:14 am »
Edwards reckons he's almost certainly staying.

It isn't quite the 'fighting behind Des Lynam' Grandstand prank but it's not a bad effort.

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12552 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 10:59:26 am »

Offline Ian W

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12553 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:06:09 am »
I'd love to know how Ashley is going to shaft him after he signs.

Offline Darth Crooks

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12554 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:08:34 am »
That’ll be in January. I expect him to leave then. Sorry but these c***s don’t get the benefit of doubt from me.

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12555 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:31:16 am »
Ridiculously optimistic piece from Edwards. :lol:

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12556 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:34:42 am »
Edwards reckons he's almost certainly staying.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/01/now-seems-almost-certain-rafa-benitez-will-sign-new-contract/

Anyone fancy copying and pasting as I've reached my limit of free articles. Apparently.
It is always a risk to make a definitive statement on anything to do with Rafa Benitez’s future at Newcastle United, but we have reached the stage where it is now almost certain he will sign a new contract at St James’ Park.

It is a fear that has stalked supporters all season, the risk that Benitez would abandon them, his relationship with the club’s owner Mike Ashley so riddled with mistrust and animosity, it made it impossible for him extend his contract. Things have changed.

There is no running commentary on the progress being made in negotiations. No leaks, no off-the-record briefings, no attempts to put pressure on the other in the court of public opinion. But, make no mistake, constructive talks are taking place, quietly, without fuss, in the background. It is hugely encouraging.

To put it simply, it would now be a far bigger shock if Benitez left Newcastle than if he stayed. The manager Newcastle supporters have loved more than any other since Sir Bobby Robson is preparing himself to sign a new contract.

Ashley wants Benitez to remain in charge of the team, that is not in doubt. He has finally learned to appreciate what he has in the Spaniard and has made it clear in conversations with those around him that losing Benitez now would be a failure of those tasked to keep him. This is crucial. The boss has spoken.

 Rafa Benitez oversees Newcastle training
Rafa Benitez oversees Newcastle training CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

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Nothing happens at Newcastle without Ashley giving a green light and having worked under the assumption that he did not enjoy working with a manager who has challenged him at every turn - and he has not at times - it seems Ashley has decided a manager as good as Benitez is worth the hassle after all.

Ashley has never had a manager as good as Benitez. Everybody else could see it, everyone else knew it would be foolish to lose him and for a man like Ashley, who sees the world through £ signs, it seems the penny has eventually dropped.

If the two have spent most of the last 18 months dancing around each other like a matador taunting an angry Spanish bull, things have changed. If they are dancing, it is to a soft rock ballad. They have not quite embraced, but eye contact has been made and the flames of mutual attraction have sparked.

English Premier League
Team   P   W   D   L   GD   Pts
1   Liverpool   32   24   7   1   53   79
2   Manchester City   31   25   2   4   60   77
3   Tottenham Hotspur   31   20   1   10   24   61
4   Manchester United   31   18   7   6   19   61
5   Arsenal   30   18   6   6   24   60
6   Chelsea   31   18   6   7   18   60
7   Wolverhampton Wanderers   31   12   8   11   0   44
8   Leicester City   32   13   5   14   -1   44
9   Everton   32   12   7   13   3   43
10   Watford   31   12   7   12   -3   43
11   West Ham United   32   12   6   14   -7   42
12   Bournemouth   32   11   5   16   -15   38
13   Crystal Palace   31   10   6   15   -3   36
14   Newcastle United   31   9   8   14   -9   35
15   Brighton and Hove Albion   30   9   6   15   -11   33
16   Southampton   31   8   9   14   -15   33
17   Burnley   32   9   6   17   -22   33
18   Cardiff City   31   8   4   19   -31   28
19   Fulham   32   4   5   23   -43   17
20   Huddersfield Town   32   3   5   24   -41   14
Benitez’s preferred option has always been to remain at Newcastle. He just could not allow himself to do so if he was not going to be able to turn the club into a proper force in the Premier League again. He could not simply swallow another two years of the stress and strain of merely trying to stay in the Premier League.

It has always been about the project for Benitez. First came promotion from the Championship, then a season to stabilise in the top flight. He was let down badly last summer, he did not want to navigate the club through another relegation battle, but that he is what he got because the club either refused or failed to land enough of his first-choice transfer targets. Trust broke down and a divorce was on the cards.

Benitez was, indeed, preparing to leave but, importantly, was always open to the idea of staying. He just needed to receive the right assurances, to be offered the resources he needs to try and turn Newcastle into a top-eight club again. If Ashley is willing to give those guarantees, if he is willing to promise to fulfil Benitez’s demands, if he makes a concerted effort to keep him, then he will stay.

 Mike Ashley
Mike Ashley recognises Rafa Benitez's worth CREDIT: AFP
He loves Newcastle, the club and the city, the adulation he receives, the passion that engulfs everything to do with the club, it stirs powerful emotions in a manager who has not been idolised like this since he was at Liverpool. Everybody wants to be loved.

We are not quite there yet, but everything points to a positive conclusion in negotiations. Nobody has told me this is certain, or that everything has been agreed, but as far as I am concerned, Benitez will be Newcastle United’s manager next season.

It will be the best news Newcastle supporters have had in years and it puts the Magpies into arguably their strongest position during Ashley’s 12-year reign. Whisper it, but Newcastle might just be a club to respect again.

Offline Wilson

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12557 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:41:10 am »
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If they are dancing, it is to a soft rock ballad. They have not quite embraced, but eye contact has been made and the flames of mutual attraction have sparked.

This is disgusting :lol:

Offline Disco

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12558 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:44:40 am »
Why is Fat Mike trying to neck on with Rafa?

Offline Scoot

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12559 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 12:01:11 pm »
Edwards reckons he's almost certainly staying.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/01/now-seems-almost-certain-rafa-benitez-will-sign-new-contract/

Anyone fancy copying and pasting as I've reached my limit of free articles. Apparently.
It is always a risk to make a definitive statement on anything to do with Rafa Benitez’s future at Newcastle United, but we have reached the stage where it is now almost certain he will sign a new contract at St James’ Park.

It is a fear that has stalked supporters all season, the risk that Benitez would abandon them, his relationship with the club’s owner Mike Ashley so riddled with mistrust and animosity, it made it impossible for him extend his contract. Things have changed.

There is no running commentary on the progress being made in negotiations. No leaks, no off-the-record briefings, no attempts to put pressure on the other in the court of public opinion. But, make no mistake, constructive talks are taking place, quietly, without fuss, in the background. It is hugely encouraging.

To put it simply, it would now be a far bigger shock if Benitez left Newcastle than if he stayed. The manager Newcastle supporters have loved more than any other since Sir Bobby Robson is preparing himself to sign a new contract.

Ashley wants Benitez to remain in charge of the team, that is not in doubt. He has finally learned to appreciate what he has in the Spaniard and has made it clear in conversations with those around him that losing Benitez now would be a failure of those tasked to keep him. This is crucial. The boss has spoken.

 Rafa Benitez oversees Newcastle training
Rafa Benitez oversees Newcastle training CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

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Newcastle
Nothing happens at Newcastle without Ashley giving a green light and having worked under the assumption that he did not enjoy working with a manager who has challenged him at every turn - and he has not at times - it seems Ashley has decided a manager as good as Benitez is worth the hassle after all.

Ashley has never had a manager as good as Benitez. Everybody else could see it, everyone else knew it would be foolish to lose him and for a man like Ashley, who sees the world through £ signs, it seems the penny has eventually dropped.

If the two have spent most of the last 18 months dancing around each other like a matador taunting an angry Spanish bull, things have changed. If they are dancing, it is to a soft rock ballad. They have not quite embraced, but eye contact has been made and the flames of mutual attraction have sparked.

English Premier League
Team   P   W   D   L   GD   Pts
1   Liverpool   32   24   7   1   53   79
2   Manchester City   31   25   2   4   60   77
3   Tottenham Hotspur   31   20   1   10   24   61
4   Manchester United   31   18   7   6   19   61
5   Arsenal   30   18   6   6   24   60
6   Chelsea   31   18   6   7   18   60
7   Wolverhampton Wanderers   31   12   8   11   0   44
8   Leicester City   32   13   5   14   -1   44
9   Everton   32   12   7   13   3   43
10   Watford   31   12   7   12   -3   43
11   West Ham United   32   12   6   14   -7   42
12   Bournemouth   32   11   5   16   -15   38
13   Crystal Palace   31   10   6   15   -3   36
14   Newcastle United   31   9   8   14   -9   35
15   Brighton and Hove Albion   30   9   6   15   -11   33
16   Southampton   31   8   9   14   -15   33
17   Burnley   32   9   6   17   -22   33
18   Cardiff City   31   8   4   19   -31   28
19   Fulham   32   4   5   23   -43   17
20   Huddersfield Town   32   3   5   24   -41   14
Benitez’s preferred option has always been to remain at Newcastle. He just could not allow himself to do so if he was not going to be able to turn the club into a proper force in the Premier League again. He could not simply swallow another two years of the stress and strain of merely trying to stay in the Premier League.

It has always been about the project for Benitez. First came promotion from the Championship, then a season to stabilise in the top flight. He was let down badly last summer, he did not want to navigate the club through another relegation battle, but that he is what he got because the club either refused or failed to land enough of his first-choice transfer targets. Trust broke down and a divorce was on the cards.

Benitez was, indeed, preparing to leave but, importantly, was always open to the idea of staying. He just needed to receive the right assurances, to be offered the resources he needs to try and turn Newcastle into a top-eight club again. If Ashley is willing to give those guarantees, if he is willing to promise to fulfil Benitez’s demands, if he makes a concerted effort to keep him, then he will stay.

 Mike Ashley
Mike Ashley recognises Rafa Benitez's worth CREDIT: AFP
He loves Newcastle, the club and the city, the adulation he receives, the passion that engulfs everything to do with the club, it stirs powerful emotions in a manager who has not been idolised like this since he was at Liverpool. Everybody wants to be loved.

We are not quite there yet, but everything points to a positive conclusion in negotiations. Nobody has told me this is certain, or that everything has been agreed, but as far as I am concerned, Benitez will be Newcastle United’s manager next season.

It will be the best news Newcastle supporters have had in years and it puts the Magpies into arguably their strongest position during Ashley’s 12-year reign. Whisper it, but Newcastle might just be a club to respect again.

Cheers. Very positive news.

Offline Joe_F

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12560 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 12:19:57 pm »
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There is no running commentary on the progress being made in negotiations. No leaks, no off-the-record briefings, no attempts to put pressure on the other in the court of public opinion. But, make no mistake, constructive talks are taking place, quietly, without fuss, in the background. It is hugely encouraging.

I hope it's true but to state there's no leaks or off the record briefings. It kind of contradicts his next sentence.

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12561 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 12:39:40 pm »
 :frantic:

Offline Paully

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12562 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 12:52:11 pm »
It's obvious that he's desperate to stay - my main worry was Leicester so thankfully that's off!

Only Ashley could screw this up  :tickedoff:

Offline Ian W

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12563 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 01:25:08 pm »
My main worry wasMike Ashley, can’t see that ever changing.

Offline Tiresias

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12564 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 01:35:14 pm »
So has he agreed to fund improving facilities? Or is it just more empty promises? I believe Rafa is desperate to stay but he can't be foolish enough to trust anything Ashley says.
Just waiting for the glasses to go in the pocket

Offline Altamullan

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12565 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 01:35:41 pm »
which one of you is this then?


Loving this! Still trying to fathom steel band choice but genuinely laughed out loud at Horse Punching dance. Crazy and brilliant in equal measure (...actually, nah. The brilliant nicks it).   :clap:
No se ganó Zamora en una hora y lo barato sale caro

Offline ToonArmy1892

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12566 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 01:38:24 pm »
The horse punching bit is funny like.

Offline Paully

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12567 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 01:42:17 pm »
My main worry wasMike Ashley, can’t see that ever changing.

Ha ha true!

Offline Ketsbaia

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12568 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 02:24:04 pm »
The board are desperate for him to stay because they know what they've got - a £5m manager keeping this squad up, vs McClaren relegating expensive signings. Much cheaper this way, with the benefit of mid-table finishes.

They'll say just enough to get his signature.

Offline Ian W

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12569 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 02:42:14 pm »
I mean, that could be true, but Ashley's never been 'desperate' to do anything else that helps Newcastle.

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12570 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 02:45:59 pm »
Whatever may be the case, just hope Rafa does sign on and get something to get this club progressing. Sport/Life is much more fun just watching football and not caring about the off the pitch crap
"We are not a stepping stone, we are Newcastle United." - Rafa Benitez

Offline Mattoon

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12571 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 02:54:53 pm »
We've said it for 12 years but all it would take for Ashley to get left alone would be to give Rafa what he needs and stop meddling, just disappear into the background and let the club be run by people who know what they're doing. He could have his tatty advertising, his sponsorships and deals, so long as Rafa has the tools to compete. It'll never happen, but it would be so easy!
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Offline Ian W

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12572 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 03:27:53 pm »
Whatever may be the case, just hope Rafa does sign on and get something to get this club progressing. Sport/Life is much more fun just watching football and not caring about the off the pitch crap

True, snag being if Rafa signs and the club still can't progress because he never gets the resources he needs.

Offline huss9

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12573 on: Monday 1 April 2019, 11:05:51 pm »
seems to have gone off shelvey.
john gibson in the chronicle this afternoon;
"John Carver has talked of playing two up top in an effort to score goals, tactically be more direct to grind out points, and just about every other possibility known to man or beast. They are the ramblings of a drowning desperado."

Offline Tribesman

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Re: Rafael Benítez
« Reply #12574 on: Tuesday 2 April 2019, 10:10:14 pm »
He will be seen to being over demanding after his quotes after the match, but he is right we need to spend big in the summer on our attack. Only the teams currently in the relegation zone have scored less goals than us this season.