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Offline Varadi

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« Reply #100 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 12:57:57 pm »
I'd personally drop Debuchy now.  Santon at right-back and Dummett at left-back.

Santon never looks particularly comfortable at right back to me.

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« Reply #101 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 12:59:36 pm »
Looked ok at U21 level for Italy there but always seems to look better on the left to me.

Offline Pilko

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« Reply #102 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 12:59:55 pm »
I would persevere with Debuchy and Santon for the time being but Dummett needs to be getting all the cup games and some sub time in the league if its appropriate. Give it another 6-8 weeks and Debuchy will either have improved or been dropped IMO.
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« Reply #103 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:01:41 pm »

I think Dummett and Santon are the same age. Not relevant but it's a curious stat given how much Davide has under his belt compared to say Dummet and Ferguson (also 22?)

I blame Thatcher.

Offline Cronky

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« Reply #104 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:04:37 pm »
Dummett looks like a top quality full back in the making. Potentially far better than anyone we've got at the moment. We should be giving him experience at every opportunity.

Regardless of how you rate Dummett at the moment, it's not like either Santon or Debuchy are looking all that great.
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« Reply #105 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:06:42 pm »

I rate Dummett highly. I'd have him pushing for Santon's place tbh.

Pardew placed a lot of support in him during the preseason & it's to see why. PLAYA.

Offline Mick

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« Reply #106 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:06:56 pm »


For me, Debuchy has been pretty consistently poor this season, including last night.  I am not writing him off altogether but when you have a player clearly not performing he needs to be dropped.  That alongside the fact that Santon's lack of a left foot is really frustrating me and I think affecting our attacks and the fact the Dummett has played well the 3 times he's been on the pitch means that I would take the chance.  We can't just stick with Debuchy while he's playing poorly just because the other option isn't experienced.  And Dummett may have things to learn but he's shown a maturity and well roundedness to his game when i've seen him and the only way this'll develop is by getting some games.

I thought Debuchy had good games against Fulham and Villa.
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« Reply #107 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:08:42 pm »

He wasn't really bad against West Ham - he just lost out to Jarvis's pace a couple of times. Because Jarvis is rapid.

Offline healthyaddiction

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« Reply #108 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 01:52:10 pm »
Fair enough, maybe i'm being too knee jerk, but there certainly has to be a point where Debuchy loses his place if his performance level does not improve and Santon at right back might be a risk but one worth taking in my opinion (and the only option if Debuchy does lose his place).  I'd also drop Cisse for Gouffran while i'm at it.  Cisse has been the clear weak point in the team so far.

Offline Disco

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« Reply #109 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 02:09:10 pm »
Can't be dropping a purple man. Ashley will turn the same colour.

Offline Segun Oluwaniyi

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« Reply #110 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 02:15:30 pm »
I would persevere with Debuchy and Santon for the time being but Dummett needs to be getting all the cup games and some sub time in the league if its appropriate. Give it another 6-8 weeks and Debuchy will either have improved or been dropped IMO.
I'd agree with this, but not 6-8 weeks. If Debuchy doesn't make a marked improvement in the next 2-3 matches, he needs to sit for youth.
 
I also don't understand the Santon criticisms at all. He had a poor second half of last season but was very useful in 2012 and has looked very solid and athletic thus far this season. As someone mentioned, he's the same age as Dummett and has made a big contribution to the team since his arrival here.


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Offline healthyaddiction

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« Reply #111 on: Thursday 26 September 2013, 02:35:13 pm »
I would persevere with Debuchy and Santon for the time being but Dummett needs to be getting all the cup games and some sub time in the league if its appropriate. Give it another 6-8 weeks and Debuchy will either have improved or been dropped IMO.
I'd agree with this, but not 6-8 weeks. If Debuchy doesn't make a marked improvement in the next 2-3 matches, he needs to sit for youth.
 
I also don't understand the Santon criticisms at all. He had a poor second half of last season but was very useful in 2012 and has looked very solid and athletic thus far this season. As someone mentioned, he's the same age as Dummett and has made a big contribution to the team since his arrival here.

I think that Santon is comfortably our best fullback, I just think there could be a much higher ceiling in his ability if he can learn to play right back as he just does not have a left foot (though he seems to be trying a bit more this season).

Offline Yorkie

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« Reply #112 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 11:26:45 am »
Having watched the goals again, I actually think Dummett's pass down the line was better than Sammy's cross. Sure, it was a great cross from Sammy, but that pass absolutely made it. It was inch perfect and sat up gloriously for Sammy, who just had to use the height on the ball to dink it across. It was a cracking ball from Dummett - through opposition players and with the exact right height and pace on it.

Offline junkhead

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« Reply #113 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 12:05:25 pm »
Dummett seems reliable enough but once Haidara is fit, I would rather play the Frenchman. We could do with more pace and power in the team. Agree that we should try Santon on the right again for a couple of games. Debuchy is being targeted as a weak link by our opposition atm.
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Offline Pip

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« Reply #114 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 12:21:57 pm »
I haven't seen Dummett yet, how fast is he? Compared to Santon and Debuchy.

Offline Yorkie

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« Reply #115 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 04:22:05 pm »
I haven't seen Dummett yet, how fast is he? Compared to Santon and Debuchy.

Difficult to say, really. Doesn't look slow, doesn't look rapid. :dontknow:

Offline Mole_Toonfan

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« Reply #116 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 04:38:47 pm »
Pace doesn't matter that much really.... Haidara is very quick but has the positional sense of an epileptic rabbit on speed.

Dummett on the other hand doesn't really seem that quick doesn't ever seem to get caught out of position so far.... even against Navas he always gave himself a few extra yards to combat against his pace.

The problem with Debuchy at the moment is he's slow and his positional sense is crap as well.... leading to what you see now.

Offline Yorkie

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« Reply #117 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 04:41:49 pm »
The problem with Debuchy at the moment is that his head's in completely the wrong place, imo. Just doesn't look like he wants to be there at all. I dare say there's a good player there somewhere but he's f***ing horrific atm. Hate seeing players like that, just mentally all wrong.

Offline Beren

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« Reply #118 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 04:44:10 pm »
Can't be dropping a purple man. Ashley will turn the same colour.

Yeah, can't see it happening. Like admitting money was wasted.

Offline Lotus

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« Reply #119 on: Friday 27 September 2013, 04:48:07 pm »
The problem with Debuchy at the moment is that his head's in completely the wrong place, imo. Just doesn't look like he wants to be there at all. I dare say there's a good player there somewhere but he's f***ing horrific atm. Hate seeing players like that, just mentally all wrong.

Think Cisse and Cabaye have the same problem tbh.
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« Reply #120 on: Monday 30 September 2013, 10:53:41 pm »
Should be starting now really.

Offline timeEd32

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« Reply #121 on: Saturday 19 October 2013, 02:09:35 pm »
 :cool:

Offline Tomato Deuce

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« Reply #122 on: Saturday 19 October 2013, 02:13:48 pm »
Perfectly timed run and shot.

Offline nemtizz

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« Reply #123 on: Saturday 19 October 2013, 02:44:10 pm »
Cracking finish. Glad it counted for something in the end.

Offline Fenham Mag

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« Reply #124 on: Saturday 19 October 2013, 02:44:25 pm »
Start him Vs Sunderland.

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