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Offline sadnesstan

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #875 on: Sunday 19 May 2019, 11:39:28 am »
It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.

I'm speaking about the decision to be made, in relation to his future. I did think the first paragraph was enough to clarify, but just in case I quoted the exact comment which I was replying to.

Offline Greg

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #876 on: Sunday 19 May 2019, 12:04:30 pm »
I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.


Offline sadnesstan

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #877 on: Sunday 19 May 2019, 03:34:24 pm »
I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.

Established or not, the question is whether Longstaff is ready to step up. And I have no doubt he'll do fine, under Rafa, who will develop him properly, but I was talking about if Rafa left. We'd likely get some halfwit who expects Longstaff to dominate midfield for 38 games, in a team battling relegation, simply based on the fact that Man U waned him, so he must be quality.

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« Reply #878 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 12:49:19 am »
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Offline LV

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #879 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:01:03 am »
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Absolute bullshit

Offline Stottie

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #880 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:09:35 am »
I think this is bollocks, but the biggest bollocks is people mentioning the 2.25M valuation on transfermarkt. He'll be worth Phil Jones money already, which makes it all the more unlikely to happen.

Offline ElDiablo

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #881 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:17:38 am »
Get to absolute f***.

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #882 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:36:46 am »
Two rich clubs, one with no need to sell the best young talent they have who doesn't want to leave. The other club is floundering with a bad manager but bags of cash.

For us to sell it would take more than the Carroll fee.
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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #883 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:52:37 am »
I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.

Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.

Offline mrmojorisin75

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« Reply #884 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:43:56 am »
I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.

Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #885 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:02:25 am »
With Schar and Lejeune playing diagonals out from the back, Matt Ritchie hitting way more crosses than anyone else in the league, and Perez our #10 also leading the league by miles in tackles and interceptions, perhaps our midfielders aren't that overworked.

Love the Hughes comment.

Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #886 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:04:49 am »
I think the way Rafa plays definitely makes some individuals look better than they are mind. He had a great run in the team but if we got a big fee for him, I could easily see Benítez signing someone who could do the same job and role equally as effective to go towards areas of the team where you do need a bit more ability.
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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #887 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:10:48 am »
You mean, Rafas a good manager?

His centre halves will always look good as there is 2 centre mids sitting in front and the full backs aren't 25 yards up the pitch.

On the other hand, Rafa's attacking players sometimes seem isolated.
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Offline Zero

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #888 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:23:40 am »
It’s because Longstaff only played 15 games that we would ask around 20-30m. If he has played the whole season we would ask for sth close to 50m

That’s why I think it’s legit, especially considering West Ham is asking 60m for Rice

Offline Shearergol

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #889 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:30:08 am »
We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.

He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.

Offline jdckelly

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Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
« Reply #890 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:59:11 am »
We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.

He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
all depends on if him, if he wants to go it will be hard to keep him

Offline KaKa

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« Reply #891 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:46:45 pm »
Talk of a £20 million bid now.

This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.

I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.

When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.

Offline AlanSkärare

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Re: Sean Longstaff
« Reply #892 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:48:14 pm »
Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.

Offline KaKa

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« Reply #893 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:51:19 pm »
Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.

I really hope so.

Got such a good head on his shoulders too. Future captain material for goodness sake.

This interest from Man U is really irritating and forced to me. You just know if he struggles a bit they'll discard him in a heart beat and go and buy the next new thing. Urgh.

Offline Optimistic Nut

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« Reply #894 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:54:41 pm »
Talk of a £20 million bid now.

This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.

I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.

When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.

£40m plus a hefty sell-on fee/additional clauses based on apps, trophies, international caps, etc. Personally wouldn’t sell him but could see that sort of offer being difficult to refuse.
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Offline LV

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« Reply #895 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:57:08 pm »
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

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Re: Sean Longstaff
« Reply #896 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:01:58 pm »
Solskjaer will be taking advice from someone, he's not been back in the game long and they are interested in future prospects,  Longstaff, James etc. Wouldn't Surprise me if its Fergie. I still think theres a lot more to this.

Offline huss9

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Re: Sean Longstaff
« Reply #897 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:02:45 pm »
they're spunking £15m (allegedly) on a champo winger.
john gibson in the chronicle this afternoon;
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Re: Sean Longstaff
« Reply #898 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:06:58 pm »
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Offline Heake

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« Reply #899 on: Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:22:58 pm »
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Big Mike lining up the chasers as we speak