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Title: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:18:33 pm
What's going on with this guy? Already sucked up billions in taxpayer dollars and after a decade none of his ideas have made any money.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

"Early Mars was a lot like Earth," Musk says, comparing the two planets. "It's a little cold, but we could warm it up."  :laugh:


Musk contemplates the Hyperloop.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/03/15/potw-kim-jong-un_3578513k-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:30:01 pm
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Willow on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:30:21 pm
Guy is a legend.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:31:14 pm
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now?
[emoji38] Exactly. Strange O.P.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:34:48 pm
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though? Has he sold loads of Tesla cars?

''Tesla is certainly smaller, and it’s still losing money. The electric vehicle manufacturer had $7 billion in annual revenue in 2016 while Ford saw close to $152 billion. Tesla also posted a loss of $773 million last year.''
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 22 June 2017, 11:44:03 pm
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though? Has he sold loads of Tesla cars?

''Tesla is certainly smaller, and it’s still losing money. The electric vehicle manufacturer had $7 billion in annual revenue in 2016 while Ford saw close to $152 billion. Tesla also posted a loss of $773 million last year.''

Potential.  The Model S and 3 are going into mass production now with the new facilities going on-line.  Sales are expected to jump while costs decrease.

Amazon lost money for their first 10 years and make little money now based on their revenue.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Willow on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:00:04 am
Agreed POOT. He's like a Tony Stark trying to benefit us all with forward thinking ideas, he's not in it for the money, he already has lots. He has big ideas and he's trying his best to make things happen today, rather than talking bollocks and never getting anything done.

The world needs more Elons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIwLWfaAg-8
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:01:13 am
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though?

Market cap. Valuation of shares * # of shares outstanding or some such.


Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:01:23 am
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though? Has he sold loads of Tesla cars?

''Tesla is certainly smaller, and it’s still losing money. The electric vehicle manufacturer had $7 billion in annual revenue in 2016 while Ford saw close to $152 billion. Tesla also posted a loss of $773 million last year.''

Potential.  The Model S and 3 are going into mass production now with the new facilities going on-line.  Sales are expected to jump while costs decrease.

Amazon lost money for their first 10 years and make little money now based on their revenue.

I did note EV sales in the U.S. rising but there is stiff competition. And these are serious players.

By year-end there were about 30 different EV offerings, with total sales of 159,139 vehicles. Five different models sold at least 10,000 units in 2016: Tesla Model S, Tesla Model X, Chevrolet Volt, Nissan Leaf, and Ford Fusion Energi.''

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:03:09 am
Also he released the patents Tesla had for electric cars to benefit the whole car industry and innovation around electric vehicles.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:04:02 am
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though?

Market cap. Valuation of shares * # of shares outstanding or some such.




When Govt. subsidies stopped in Denmark sales of EV crashed. I think you get 7,000 dollar iirc tax credit in California for buying an EV. The stock price looks mad.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:06:18 am
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though? Has he sold loads of Tesla cars?

''Tesla is certainly smaller, and it’s still losing money. The electric vehicle manufacturer had $7 billion in annual revenue in 2016 while Ford saw close to $152 billion. Tesla also posted a loss of $773 million last year.''

Potential.  The Model S and 3 are going into mass production now with the new facilities going on-line.  Sales are expected to jump while costs decrease.

Amazon lost money for their first 10 years and make little money now based on their revenue.

I did note EV sales in the U.S. rising but there is stiff competition. And these are serious players.

By year-end there were about 30 different EV offerings, with total sales of 159,139 vehicles. Five different models sold at least 10,000 units in 2016: Tesla Model S, Tesla Model X, Chevrolet Volt, Nissan Leaf, and Ford Fusion Energi.''



The only thing that is stopping Tesla selling more cars is production capacity.  The Model 3 is the game changer.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/244898-tesla-model-3-track-september-volume-production
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:09:27 am
You do know Tesla is actually worth more than Ford now? 

How is that though?

Market cap. Valuation of shares * # of shares outstanding or some such.




When Govt. subsidies stopped in Denmark sales of EV crashed. I think you get 7,000 dollar iirc tax credit in California for buying an EV. The stock price looks mad.
I wouldn't extrapolate too much from a US-DEN comparison like that, particularly in terms of the populace's appetite for cars of any kind. US is auto crazy.

Moving on though, tax credits appear and disappear for too many criteria too quickly much for you to bank on him crashing because of it. A few years ago in Georgia (where I live) you could essentially get $500 back from the state in tax credits after buying a Nissan Leaf. You were literally paid to buy one! That's disappeared now but demand has hardly disappeared.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 23 June 2017, 12:52:27 am
doesn't really matter how many billions of dollars he's sucked up given that money doesn't exist any more
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Friday 23 June 2017, 01:13:39 am
So the guy is building companies to make electric cars (all big brands have failed on this), make solar affordable (its happening but more competition and innovation in the market is good), and to send s*** to space (this is needed since NASA doesn't bother any more. If all of these things work out the world is a better place so whats the problem?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 23 June 2017, 01:15:34 am
The man's a genius and a visionary.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Friday 23 June 2017, 01:33:07 am
The man's a genius and a visionary.

He's definitely either that or a Bond villain laying the foundation for a pointlessly convoluted world domination scheme.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Friday 23 June 2017, 05:23:40 am
His ideas havent made any money. :lol: Coming from the guy who predicted money should have died years ago.

The man's a genius and a visionary.

This. A personal hero of mine.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Friday 23 June 2017, 05:24:47 am
Can't believe theres an Elon thread on here btw and it was started by Parky. No offense Parky mate, I do like you as a poster but I feel this thread should have been started by pure fanboys like myself. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Beren on Friday 23 June 2017, 07:01:38 am
doesn't really matter how many billions of dollars he's sucked up given that money doesn't exist any more

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Beren on Friday 23 June 2017, 07:03:51 am
Jonas Salk wasted his life anarl, the penniless loser.

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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 23 June 2017, 07:21:50 am
Guy makes billions after starting with a couple of grand off his dad, pioneers commercial space flight and electric cars, champions renewable power and makes the first grid level solar / battery plant, invents the reusable rocket and is the first in the world to land a rocket stage safely after launch.  Worra mug.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Friday 23 June 2017, 08:03:39 am
He's all talk.  SpaceX was started 15 years ago and we still don't have a city on Mars.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 23 June 2017, 09:57:39 am
He's all talk.  SpaceX was started 15 years ago and we still don't have a city on Mars.

We have but they're covering it up for reasons.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Nobody on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:21:50 am
The man's a genius and a visionary.

This. A personal hero of mine.

Aye, he seems to an amazing person :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:34:42 am
Read this a few months ago:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/02/elon-musk-responds-to-claims-of-low-pay-injuries-and-anti-union-policies-at-tesla-plant/

Sounds like just another rich t***.  But hey, he likes space and technology.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:37:37 am
Read this a few months ago:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/02/elon-musk-responds-to-claims-of-low-pay-injuries-and-anti-union-policies-at-tesla-plant/

Sounds like just another rich t***.  But hey, he likes space and technology.

Yeah because everything you read on the internet is true.....
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:39:00 am
Touchy. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:40:24 am
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/16/elon-musk-tesla-wages-apology

Better? :lol:

Or is this just "the internet" talking again?

EDIT: 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk

http://fortune.com/2017/02/26/elon-musk-tesla-union-claims/

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Nobody on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:41:36 am
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html
Long read, but absolutely worth it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:51:05 am
Musk is pretty much my one hope for humanity right now, can't believe anyone can criticise the man for trying to drag the human race forward.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 23 June 2017, 10:52:48 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions, as I (and generally all of you) would with any other.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:06:31 am
I think, unless he's pulled the wool over my eyes, the difference is that his motivations are a lot different to most people like Jobs'. Jobs was just a t*** who would've exploited his grandmother for profit, whereas musk would exploit his grandmother if it would benefit mankind.

Obviously that is of little comfort to those working under such conditions but still  :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:06:48 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.


Sure, a lot of people who he employs don't like him, I've read his book, he doesn't tolerate people who don't work as hard as he does. He knows what he wants and runs people into the ground in an attempt to turn his ideas into reality.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:06:59 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions, as I (and generally all of you) would with any other.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.
From everything i've seen about him, he does actually seen like a decent person tbh, does a fair bit for charity from what I remember.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:11:46 am
Jobs was a massive c***, like. The love for him was bizarre.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:18:10 am
Musk is pretty much my one hope for humanity right now, can't believe anyone can criticise the man for trying to drag the human race forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD_9Ph8KiVM
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:19:31 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.


Sure, a lot of people who he employs don't like him, I've read his book, he doesn't tolerate people who don't work as hard as he does. He knows what he wants and runs people into the ground in an attempt to turn his ideas into reality.

That makes it okay then. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:28:16 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.


Sure, a lot of people who he employs don't like him, I've read his book, he doesn't tolerate people who don't work as hard as he does. He knows what he wants and runs people into the ground in an attempt to turn his ideas into reality.

That makes it okay then. [emoji38]


 [emoji38]  Obviously it would be better if he was going round asking everyone how their weekend was and paying everyone great wages.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:42:16 am
I like Tesla and like others on here I have enjoyed his talks and visionary mind space. But every time I look at the fundamentals I see issues. The battery tech for instance is owned by Panasonic.

BMW and Mercedes are planning to enter the market in a big way over the next 2/3 years and move over from hybrid to more EV...These are historical car companies with decades of industry knowledge and vast networks. I'm not sure how Tesla is going to withstand further saturation of an already tiny market (albeit growing) when the big boys arrive.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:44:13 am
Is it wholly owned by Panasonic? I was aware they'd signed quite a comprehensive r&d agreement with them
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:50:03 am
Is it wholly owned by Panasonic? I was aware they'd signed quite a comprehensive r&d agreement with them

Panasonic is the supplier from what I can tell although it must be that Tesla are now involved in developing new products with them. My point being the batteries aren't Tesla propitiatory. I'm not trying to take Tesla down piece by piece I really hopes he succeeds.

''Palo Alto, Calif. – Panasonic corporation and Tesla Motors finalized a supply agreement for automotive-grade lithium-ion battery cells. Panasonic is the world’s leading battery cell manufacturer and a diverse supplier to the global automotive industry. Panasonic’s automotive grade lithium-ion battery cells will be used in Tesla’s premium electric sedan, Model S.''

https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-enters-supply-agreement-tesla-motors-supply-automotivegrade-battery-c
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:57:15 am
Is it wholly owned by Panasonic? I was aware they'd signed quite a comprehensive r&d agreement with them

Panasonic is the supplier from what I can tell although it must be that Tesla are now involved in developing new products with them. My point being the batteries aren't Tesla propitiatory. I'm not trying to take Tesla down piece by piece I really hopes he succeeds.

''Palo Alto, Calif. – Panasonic corporation and Tesla Motors finalized a supply agreement for automotive-grade lithium-ion battery cells. Panasonic is the world’s leading battery cell manufacturer and a diverse supplier to the global automotive industry. Panasonic’s automotive grade lithium-ion battery cells will be used in Tesla’s premium electric sedan, Model S.''

https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-enters-supply-agreement-tesla-motors-supply-automotivegrade-battery-c

Panasonic's new battery plant is in the same building as Tesla, it's the biggest factory in the world or it will be when completed.

http://jalopnik.com/inside-the-tesla-gigafactory-the-biggest-factory-in-th-1784369456
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 23 June 2017, 11:59:35 am
Is it wholly owned by Panasonic? I was aware they'd signed quite a comprehensive r&d agreement with them

Panasonic is the supplier from what I can tell although it must be that Tesla are now involved in developing new products with them. My point being the batteries aren't Tesla propitiatory. I'm not trying to take Tesla down piece by piece I really hopes he succeeds.

''Palo Alto, Calif. – Panasonic corporation and Tesla Motors finalized a supply agreement for automotive-grade lithium-ion battery cells. Panasonic is the world’s leading battery cell manufacturer and a diverse supplier to the global automotive industry. Panasonic’s automotive grade lithium-ion battery cells will be used in Tesla’s premium electric sedan, Model S.''

https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-enters-supply-agreement-tesla-motors-supply-automotivegrade-battery-c

Panasonic's new battery plant is in the same building as Tesla, it's the biggest factory in the world or it will be when completed.

http://jalopnik.com/inside-the-tesla-gigafactory-the-biggest-factory-in-th-1784369456

Thanks.

BMW are developing their own batteries.

''The technology is clearly available and BMW is certainly deploying massive capital investment to bring lithium air batteries closer to automotive production. Sufficiently scaling the technology, which is unstable, and consistently producing it in the numbers required to power a greater share of the more than 2m vehicles BMW sell per year, is the problem.

BMW says it’s delivery date for lithium air battery cars are 2026, although Robertson cautions against believing we’ll completely divorce from unleaded or diesel soon. “The internal combustion engine has a long way to go. We (BMW) will improve the efficiency and mate them to electric vehicles in many cases.”
Our suspicion is that the first battery powered M-cars will be chief beneficiaries of lithium air. We certainly hope BMW gets the chemistry correct with those.''

http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Gear_and_Tech/so-bmw-is-developing-super-batteries-for-electric-cars-20170315
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 24 June 2017, 05:52:02 am
The gigafactory only started mass production of their own cells in January.  At full capacity (expected 2020) it'll be producing more than the entire global Li-ion battery industry made in 2013.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 24 June 2017, 10:00:52 am
The gigafactory only started mass production of their own cells in January.  At full capacity (expected 2020) it'll be producing more than the entire global Li-ion battery industry made in 2013.

Massive article on the Gigafactory and battery tech. Long boring read.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/3976731-teslas-huge-mistake-thin-film-lithium-ion-batteries-power-ev-revolution

Some chit chat on the Tesla forum.

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/question-will-lithiumion-batteries-become-obsoleted-soon
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 24 June 2017, 10:49:37 am
I can criticise him for low pay and unsafe working conditions.  He's a capitalist like the rest of the exploiters of society.  He does have some great ideas, but I'll not do what people did with Steve Jobs and pretend their inventions make them a great person or likeable.


Sure, a lot of people who he employs don't like him, I've read his book, he doesn't tolerate people who don't work as hard as he does. He knows what he wants and runs people into the ground in an attempt to turn his ideas into reality.

That makes it okay then. [emoji38]
Would you rather he was a Hank Scorpio like? [emoji38] 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 24 June 2017, 10:51:53 am
I'd rather people stop giving him a free pass cause he does something cool.  Doesn't matter what you do, you shouldn't get away with exploiting your workforce.  And I think every single one of you know this but have decided in this case it doesn't matter.   Mental. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:01:48 am
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/mars-elon-musk-city-million-people-constructed-2062-red-planet-space-a7802296.html
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:03:30 am
Nah, that's just an assumption tbh. Of course he shouldn't exploit his workforce, but that doesn't detract from his work just as much as his work doesn't excuse him.

It's a societal problem imo, no one's going to specifically single him out and go to town on him with protests etc it when it's everywhere and you can pick from a sea of other arseholes doing the same thing, with causes that deliberately kills the population and/or the planet for profit, as opposed to one who's attempting to save it for profit. It's just about picking your battles imo, it doesn't mean that it doesn't matter and shouldn't change.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OCK on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:03:59 am
I keep looking at his name thinking it some clever Harry Potter anagram to reveal something evil.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: TheHoob on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:06:28 am
I'd rather people stop giving him a free pass cause he does something cool.  Doesn't matter what you do, you shouldn't get away with exploiting your workforce.  And I think every single one of you know this but have decided in this case it doesn't matter.   Mental. :lol:

 :thup: If this quote was from one of Fat Mikes factories I'm sure the reaction (everywhere, not necessarily just people on here) would be different.

Quote
“I’ve seen people pass out, hit the floor like a pancake and smash their face open,” said Jonathan Galescu, a production technician at Tesla. “They just send us to work around him while he’s still lying on the floor.”

He was one of several workers who said they had seen co-workers collapse or be taken away in ambulances. “We had an associate on my line, he just kept working, kept working, kept working, next thing you know – he just fell on the ground,” said Mikey Catura, a worker on the battery pack line.

 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:10:21 am
I'd rather people stop giving him a free pass cause he does something cool.  Doesn't matter what you do, you shouldn't get away with exploiting your workforce.  And I think every single one of you know this but have decided in this case it doesn't matter.   Mental. :lol:

 :thup: If this quote was from one of Fat Mikes factories I'm sure the reaction (everywhere, not necessarily just people on here) would be different.

Quote
“I’ve seen people pass out, hit the floor like a pancake and smash their face open,” said Jonathan Galescu, a production technician at Tesla. “They just send us to work around him while he’s still lying on the floor.”

He was one of several workers who said they had seen co-workers collapse or be taken away in ambulances. “We had an associate on my line, he just kept working, kept working, kept working, next thing you know – he just fell on the ground,” said Mikey Catura, a worker on the battery pack line.

 


:thup:

But, didn't you know, he only expects them to work as hard as he does?

:facepalm:

For the record, he does good stuff, but let's not glorify a man that does this.  He could easily change it, could easily pay a better wage and have better conditions.  Don't kid yourselves. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:11:43 am
Nah, that's just an assumption tbh. Of course he shouldn't exploit his workforce, but that doesn't detract from his work just as much as his work doesn't excuse him.

It's a societal problem imo, no one's going to specifically single him out and go to town on him with protests etc it when it's everywhere and you can pick from a sea of other arseholes doing the same thing, with causes that deliberately kills the population and/or the planet for profit, as opposed to one who's attempting to save it for profit. It's just about picking your battles imo, it doesn't mean that it doesn't matter and shouldn't change.


I am impressed with his green credentials (although I am yet to delve into them properly). I feel he is a 'good' guy.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:15:58 am
Nah, he does some insanely good things.  I agree.

Wish he'd shut up about simulations though.  Gets gimp all giddy. :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:17:05 am
He has promised the globe infinite energy so we can all work on developing the lazy gene.

Of course he get's a free pass.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:20:52 am
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:26:11 am
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).

There will still be cars, people still need to get A to B for leisure activities etc.  I think in 20 years time the ownership idea of cars will be massively gone and we'll just call an Uber to whisk us to where we want to go without a driver.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:31:32 am
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).

There will still be cars, people still need to get A to B for leisure activities etc.  I think in 20 years time the ownership idea of cars will be massively gone and we'll just call an Uber to whisk us to where we want to go without a driver.

Yeah shared ownership of a pool of cars is surely much more energy saving. I know nobody has done the sums but mass automobile ownership has really depleted our resources on this planet.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: newsted on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:34:50 am
He has promised the globe infinite energy so we can all work on developing the lazy gene.

Of course he gets a free pass.

Misapostrophisation. FYP. :hmm:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:35:44 am
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/05/30/elon-musk-has-revealed-mock-up-vehicles-for-his-boring-tunnels-under-la/#2b3b528238a3

I trust he's considered the sinkhole aspect
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Saturday 24 June 2017, 11:37:55 am
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).

There will still be cars, people still need to get A to B for leisure activities etc.  I think in 20 years time the ownership idea of cars will be massively gone and we'll just call an Uber to whisk us to where we want to go without a driver.

Yeah shared ownership of a pool of cars is surely much more energy saving. I know nobody has done the sums but mass automobile ownership has really depleted our resources on this planet.

Pooled autonomous vehicles, or at least everyone on the same network, will not only reduce resource usage but increase productivity in city areas. Imagine no congestion.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OCK on Saturday 24 June 2017, 12:02:12 pm
So who here will be the first to give up their car?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 24 June 2017, 12:08:41 pm
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).

There will still be cars, people still need to get A to B for leisure activities etc.  I think in 20 years time the ownership idea of cars will be massively gone and we'll just call an Uber to whisk us to where we want to go without a driver.

Yeah shared ownership of a pool of cars is surely much more energy saving. I know nobody has done the sums but mass automobile ownership has really depleted our resources on this planet.

Pooled autonomous vehicles, or at least everyone on the same network, will not only reduce resource usage but increase productivity in city areas. Imagine no congestion.

Just need the infrastructure for it put in place, we are close to it now.  Autonomous vehicles really should be the norm on new cars by at least 2022.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 24 June 2017, 12:46:03 pm
I'd imagine if you really want to save the planet cars of any kind shouldn't be in the equation. Lot of jobs could be done from home offices with the internet as it is - no need for millions of people to be driving cars (one of the biggest energy sinks on the planet).

The constellation of LEO satellites he's planning to provide global Internet coverage should help with that :thup:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_satellite_constellation
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Monday 26 June 2017, 01:27:36 am
Another successful landing for SpaceX :thup:

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Under nearly perfect skies in Florida, SpaceX successfully launched the BulgariaSat-1 on its way to geostationary transfer orbit Friday afternoon. The "flight proven" booster made its second flight, and provides further indication that reusable rocketry isn't going to be an aerospace fad. It is, rather, likely the future.

The company also demonstrated its increasing proficiency with regard to booster landings. Although Elon Musk didn't provide technical details, he said the reentry force and heating faced by this booster would be greater than that of any previous flight. Despite this technically challenging, three-engine landing, the rocket made it back to a droneship in the Atlantic Ocean.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/spacex-goes-for-a-launch-doubleheader-this-weekend/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Saturday 1 July 2017, 02:15:15 pm
Model 3 might be late.

''He is not only forecasting the vehicle being late to market by over a year, but he is also predicting volumes to be significantly lower than what Tesla is forecasting. CEO Elon Musk has been talking about as many as 400,000 Model 3 sedans being produced in 2018 – compared to Jonas’ 60,000 in 2019.''

https://electrek.co/2016/11/23/tesla-model-3-late-adam-jonas-morgan-stanley/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Saturday 1 July 2017, 02:16:23 pm
Everything they ever release will be late. He sets targets that are obviously too high to make people work harder, he admits this himself. I'd have thought once admitting it you take away the magic but he's a wiser man than I
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 3 July 2017, 04:50:54 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40484488
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Monday 3 July 2017, 07:37:53 pm
Model 3 might be late.

Two days later:

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Shares in electric car maker Tesla have risen after founder Elon Musk said its new Model 3 car would be ready by Friday, two weeks ahead of schedule.

Solid work as always, Parky. :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 3 July 2017, 07:42:42 pm
Model 3 might be late.

Two days later:

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Shares in electric car maker Tesla have risen after founder Elon Musk said its new Model 3 car would be ready by Friday, two weeks ahead of schedule.

Solid work as always, Parky. :thup:
[emoji38]

I'm still waiting for his end of money prediction.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Monday 3 July 2017, 11:22:08 pm
Model 3 might be late.

Two days later:

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Shares in electric car maker Tesla have risen after founder Elon Musk said its new Model 3 car would be ready by Friday, two weeks ahead of schedule.

Solid work as always, Parky. :thup:

It's what Morgan Stanley said.

Anyway Cubricow here:

Tesla says deliveries hit by 'severe' battery production shortfall

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-says-q2-deliveries-fall-short-due-to-severe-battery-production-shortfall-2017-07-03







Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Monday 3 July 2017, 11:23:00 pm
Model 3 might be late.

Two days later:

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Shares in electric car maker Tesla have risen after founder Elon Musk said its new Model 3 car would be ready by Friday, two weeks ahead of schedule.

Solid work as always, Parky. :thup:
[emoji38]

I'm still waiting for his end of money prediction.

I'm still waiting for your mum. ;)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 3 July 2017, 11:25:12 pm


I'm still waiting for his end of money prediction.

I'm still waiting for your mum. ;)

:lol: Poor Neesy getting hammered today.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: louistoon on Friday 7 July 2017, 11:56:22 pm
Model 3 might be late.

''He is not only forecasting the vehicle being late to market by over a year, but he is also predicting volumes to be significantly lower than what Tesla is forecasting. CEO Elon Musk has been talking about as many as 400,000 Model 3 sedans being produced in 2018 – compared to Jonas’ 60,000 in 2019.''

https://electrek.co/2016/11/23/tesla-model-3-late-adam-jonas-morgan-stanley/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/03/elon-musk-tesla-model-3-mass-market-electric-car-production-line-two-weeks-early

 :hmm:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 8 July 2017, 11:44:49 am
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South Australia has suffered significant blackouts in recent months due to storms and heat. Now, the Australian state is looking for ways to fortify the grid, and it’s apparently turning to Tesla to provide some grid-tied storage.

In a press release, Tesla wrote that it was chosen “through a competitive bidding process" to build a 100 MW/129 MWh battery system, which will draw energy from Neoen’s Hornsdale Wind Farm near Jamestown, South Australia. The project will be the largest grid-tied lithium-ion battery system in the world.

The news comes several months after a Twitter exchange between Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Mike Cannon-Brookes, the billionaire behind software company Atlassian. Cannon-Brookes asked Musk if he could deliver 100MW in 100 days to South Australia and Musk responded in a tweet, “Tesla will get the system installed and working 100 days from contract signature or it is free. That serious enough for you?”

https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/07/after-bet-between-billionaires-south-australia-buys-129mwh-tesla-battery/

G'wan son :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 11:13:46 am
:lol:

''Musk was received with typical credulity by the tech press, and considerable consternation by various government agencies. Several spokespeople who answered the phones at relevant city, state and federal government bodies laughed upon hearing of the claim that an interstate transit project with a significant street-level footprint in four of the east coast’s largest cities could be approved verbally.''

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/20/elon-musk-hyperloop-verbal-government-approval
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 11:55:02 am
Thing about Elon Musk is that they laughed at him when he said he'd change the way people pay for things online, they laughed at him when he said he'd make electric vehicles mainstream, they laughed at him when he said he was going to build a rocket that flies itself back and lands, they laughed at him when he said he was going to build the biggest battery factory in the world and they laughed at him when he said he was going to build utility scale battery installations.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:06:43 pm
Thing about Elon Musk is that they laughed at him when he said he'd change the way people pay for things online, they laughed at him when he said he'd make electric vehicles mainstream, they laughed at him when he said he was going to build a rocket that flies itself back and lands, they laughed at him when he said he was going to build the biggest battery factory in the world and they laughed at him when he said he was going to build utility scale battery installations.

Here goes...

EV's aren't mainstream they are under 5% of the market iirc
EV's as a concept go back to the 70's it's nothing new. The Govt subsidies for them are new.
The reason Nasa didn't bother with it is that there isn't really a cost saving as refurbishing the engine is almost as expensive. And its safer to have a new engine.
Batteries should be obsolete...The key will be to have contact-less power under roads.
.........a man in a wig...Really?  :D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:20:45 pm
It cost SpaceX $448m to develop the re-usable Falcon 9.  A NASA study estimated that to develop the same rocket would have cost them $4bn.

By the way....

(http://i.imgur.com/E46gHhy.png)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:29:22 pm
It's because Nasa did all the legwork of rocket testing over 50 years and NASA helped with the initial funding the development costs of the Falcon 9. It's cheaper to build a new version of a Bentley if Bentley help you with all their knowledge and years of testing and if Bentley mentor your whole production stream.

''SpaceX has only come this far by building upon the incredible achievements of NASA, having NASA as an anchor tenant for launch, and receiving expert advice and mentorship throughout the development process. SpaceX would like to extend a special thanks to the NASA COTS office for their continued support and guidance throughout this process. The COTS program has demonstrated the power of a true private/public partnership and we look forward to the exciting endeavors our team will accomplish in the future.[20]''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:30:45 pm
One of the things in his book that impressed me most was when they (SpaceX) were told the prices of various rocket components they were shocked they cost so much so Musk and his team decided to build the parts themselves for a fraction of the price and put them through all the rigorous testing required and they were more reliable than the outsourced parts that cost silly money.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:32:30 pm
Aye, I remember all those rockets that NASA landed.  No question they were a help but you can't deny the incredible achievements SpaceX have made.  Blue Origin are following the same path too, their new heavy launch vehicle is underway with a factory being built in Alabama.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:32:44 pm
The reusable design of the Shuttle was meant to save money, since all but the external tank could be used again post-launch. "Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way for the Shuttle," says Wayne Hale, a former manager of NASA's Space Shuttle program, and a member of the NASA Advisory Council. "It was a very complicated vehicle that took an awful lot of refurbishment to get it to fly again." The Shuttle's main engines had to be replaced after every few launches. The vehicle also needed lots of inspections and repairs between missions. Additionally, its solid rocket boosters needed constant updates once they had been recovered from the ocean, and the external tank had to be built anew for each flight. All together, this helped to drive up the cost of each Shuttle mission to somewhere between $450 million and $1.5 billion per launch.''

https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/24/10661544/spacex-reusable-rocket-refurbishment-repair-design-cost-falcon-9
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:34:31 pm
Aye, I remember all those rockets that NASA landed.  No question they were a help but you can't deny the incredible achievements SpaceX have made.  Blue Origin are following the same path too, their new heavy launch vehicle is underway with a factory being built in Alabama.

I like Space X but I get irritated when the geezer starts talking about putting 100,000 people on Mars. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:36:51 pm
The reusable design of the Shuttle was meant to save money, since all but the external tank could be used again post-launch. "Unfortunately it didn’t work out that way for the Shuttle," says Wayne Hale, a former manager of NASA's Space Shuttle program, and a member of the NASA Advisory Council. "It was a very complicated vehicle that took an awful lot of refurbishment to get it to fly again." The Shuttle's main engines had to be replaced after every few launches. The vehicle also needed lots of inspections and repairs between missions. Additionally, its solid rocket boosters needed constant updates once they had been recovered from the ocean, and the external tank had to be built anew for each flight. All together, this helped to drive up the cost of each Shuttle mission to somewhere between $450 million and $1.5 billion per launch.''

https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/24/10661544/spacex-reusable-rocket-refurbishment-repair-design-cost-falcon-9

Seriously? :lol:

The shuttle was an overpurposed space plane designed for far too many purposes.  You can't compare that to a F9 booster.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:42:34 pm
Aye, I remember all those rockets that NASA landed.  No question they were a help but you can't deny the incredible achievements SpaceX have made.  Blue Origin are following the same path too, their new heavy launch vehicle is underway with a factory being built in Alabama.

I like Space X but I get irritated when the geezer starts talking about putting 100,000 people on Mars. :lol:

How can you be irritated by a guy who’s got the vision and determination to take the species to another planet? To push boundaries? If you don’t dream big in this arena, what’s the point of it all?

Kennedy said it best
“We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard”
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:44:08 pm
Just a bit of background bro. ;)

Anyway we're talking about LEO rockets (70 year old tech).

If there is a 20/30% cost saving that's great but it isn't the next stage in space travel.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 12:47:30 pm
Aye, I remember all those rockets that NASA landed.  No question they were a help but you can't deny the incredible achievements SpaceX have made.  Blue Origin are following the same path too, their new heavy launch vehicle is underway with a factory being built in Alabama.

I like Space X but I get irritated when the geezer starts talking about putting 100,000 people on Mars. :lol:

How can you be irritated by a guy who’s got the vision and determination to take the species to another planet? To push boundaries? If you don’t dream big in this arena, what’s the point of it all?

Kennedy said it best
“We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard”

I quite like him as a sort of intelligent scallywag but I'd like him to be more serious about his statements.

I have heard nothing from him other than errant bullshit about putting people on Mars. Fire nukes on Mars poles indeed. :lol:

I think he also said that his Mars vehicle would have a restaurant. Clearly he's taking too much Ambien.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:01:30 pm
Here is a very good video informing you why it is nigh on impossible (with current technology) to build a Hyperloop system.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

The thing is though many of Musks other adventures suffer from similar problems.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:02:11 pm
 :lol: Well we’ll just have to disagree on all that Parky, I find all that enthusiasm of the possibilities inspiring and one of his most endearing qualities.

Meanwhile the rest of planet earth is trying to build walls around themselves and telling everyone not like them to p*ss off back to wherever they come from.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:06:47 pm
He's got a long term plan, you can't fault the man for that.  Here's his keynote on the ITS

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/09/spacex-reveals-mars-game-changer-colonization-plan/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:07:31 pm
Here is a very good video informing you why it is nigh on impossible (with current technology) to build a Hyperloop system.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

The thing is though many of Musks other adventures suffer from similar problems.

Such as?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:12:33 pm
:lol: Well we’ll just have to disagree on all that Parky, I find all that enthusiasm of the possibilities inspiring and one of his most endearing qualities.

Meanwhile the rest of planet earth is trying to build walls around themselves and telling everyone not like them to p*ss off back to wherever they come from.
Thing is though he knows all this stuff is bullshit and stands no chance of being pulled off. Even taking Tesla as an example, most of the tech there is from other people/companies and is open to use freely. The major car manufacturers have made big strides in the last 5-10 years, and have now caught up with if not exceeding what Tesla can offer. In that time Tesla have pretty much stood still.

Musk comes off with persona where he is trying to good for the world, trying to push humanity forward and a lot of people with noble views fall for it. In reality they guy is a conman, he's trying to sell existing technology that's been repackaged. There are countless cases of his employee's, mostly from Tesla leaving the the company, going to work for car manufacturers, computer companies etc, then quickly heading back to Tesla, the reason being is they have been found out to be hacks with no knowledge from their new employers. Musks only achievement has been PayPal, even that is argued at how much creative input he had.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:26:10 pm
Problem with musk is you get people who believe he can do no wrong and will not accept the slightest criticism and you get people who think he's a conman.

He's doing good and let's hope he continues. Does it matter if it's 100% his work if without him the progress wouldn't have been facilitated? He's a business man and a leader as well as an engineer remember.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:28:11 pm
Problem with musk is you get people who believe he can do no wrong and will not accept the slightest criticism and you get people who think he's a conman.

He's doing good and let's hope he continues. Does it matter if it's 100% his work if without him the progress wouldn't have been facilitated? He's a business man and a leader as well as an engineer remember.

:thup:

He's not going to be successful at everything he does, but unlike he others he's prepared to try.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Toondave on Friday 21 July 2017, 01:40:35 pm
Re the unrealistic stuff. Some of his ideas are definitely lofty if not unrealistic but it sets the tone. Sometimes reaching 65% of a lofty replacement target is better than 100% of an easy one.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:20:41 pm
:lol: Well we’ll just have to disagree on all that Parky, I find all that enthusiasm of the possibilities inspiring and one of his most endearing qualities.

Meanwhile the rest of planet earth is trying to build walls around themselves and telling everyone not like them to p*ss off back to wherever they come from.
Thing is though he knows all this stuff is bullshit and stands no chance of being pulled off. Even taking Tesla as an example, most of the tech there is from other people/companies and is open to use freely. The major car manufacturers have made big strides in the last 5-10 years, and have now caught up with if not exceeding what Tesla can offer. In that time Tesla have pretty much stood still.

Musk comes off with persona where he is trying to good for the world, trying to push humanity forward and a lot of people with noble views fall for it. In reality they guy is a conman, he's trying to sell existing technology that's been repackaged. There are countless cases of his employee's, mostly from Tesla leaving the the company, going to work for car manufacturers, computer companies etc, then quickly heading back to Tesla, the reason being is they have been found out to be hacks with no knowledge from their new employers. Musks only achievement has been PayPal, even that is argued at how much creative input he had.

Well, that's a load of crap.  The tech is open to use freely, that's because Musk open sourced the entire patent portfolio.

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Earlier this week, we wrote about rumors that Elon Musk was going to free up some of Tesla's patents to encourage more people to adopt the company's Supercharger system. As we noted this shouldn't be controversial, but it was still considered as such. Elon Musk has now made the official announcement and it actually goes way beyond what was originally rumored. It's not just about the Superchargers, it's all of Tesla's patents. But, better than that, Musk explains why he no longer thinks patents make sense and even demolishes the one argument that even many patent skeptics make: that they're "still needed to stop big companies from copying your innovations."

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140612/11253427557/elon-musk-destroys-rationale-patents-opens-up-all-teslas.shtml
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:25:25 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:30:32 pm
The tech was already open source, infact Tesla started off by taking tech from another company called AC Propulsions.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:35:23 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:40:57 pm
The tech was already open source, infact Tesla started off by taking tech from another company called AC Propulsions.

Nar, Tesla have come up with plenty of their own stuff and open sourced it.  You're talking about a kit car powered by lead acid batteries from 20 years ago.  You're comparing a 2017 i7 with a 386 from 1987 and saying because they're both x86 processors they're the same thing.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:42:49 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.

He made the first ever re-usable rocket booster.  Just that alone should mark him for the history books.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:45:22 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.

He made the first ever re-usable rocket booster.  Just that alone should mark him for the history books.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:47:51 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.
It's what he does ffs. Without him and Tesla, like f*** would the rest of the car industry  invest so much on electric car as they are now. He is a billionaire because he created stuff others saw the value in, don't use that against him [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:48:00 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.

He made the first ever re-usable rocket booster.  Just that alone should mark him for the history books.
NASA came up with it for the Space Shuttle. Falcon 9 is developed from that, even as it stands only limited parts of it are currently re-usable, the aim is to be more re-usable in future.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:48:58 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.
It's what he does ffs. Without him and Tesla, like f*** would the rest of the car industry  invest so much on electric car as they are now. He is a billionaire because he created stuff others saw the value in, don't use that against him [emoji38]
He's a billionaire because of PayPal which he is criticised for stealing the idea.
Any money he has since made is from government subsidies for technology he is supposedly inventing.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:51:17 pm
Stole the idea? His company merged with another company who created PayPal. How is that stealing? He got shares based on the value of x.com
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 July 2017, 03:58:58 pm
The world need more people like Musk, not sure how anyone can disagree with that like [emoji38]
No they don't. The world needs people who are actually going to change the world, and people who are going to push others to do so. They don't need another smug billionaire letting out sound bites and generally talking the talk instead of walking the walk.

He made the first ever re-usable rocket booster.  Just that alone should mark him for the history books.
NASA came up with it for the Space Shuttle. Falcon 9 is developed from that, even as it stands only limited parts of it are currently re-usable, the aim is to be more re-usable in future.

Nope.  The space shuttle isn't a booster and it isn't a rocket.  The 'limited' parts of Falcon 9 are currently the grid fins used for landing and the legs which are both being replaced in the block 5 version due to fly this autumn along with some other refinements to make it a slightly quicker turnaround.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Friday 21 July 2017, 04:05:58 pm
Thomas slams Tesla. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tuOQtsazY4
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Friday 21 July 2017, 04:23:34 pm
Seems legit
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 21 July 2017, 04:29:05 pm
 :facepalm: Some of these posts man!

If he stole all the ideas I must be selectively choosing not to see those headlines in the news about him being sued from every angle.

Also, I couldn't swore I watched a rocket launch, go into space and then return again just the other month all live on the internet. I've definitely been had.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 11:03:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Hn2symz.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Thursday 27 July 2017, 11:54:28 am
I have to say, in that scenario, a great design for a bucket is not particularly useful.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: U2 on Thursday 27 July 2017, 01:30:05 pm
Not just a bucket, a great bucket.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 27 July 2017, 04:50:57 pm
Not just a bucket, a great bucket.

A great design for a bucket isn't a design for a great bucket, though.

And if he's thinking about getting on boats without checking their rescue equipment, he's not as smart as he thinks.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 27 July 2017, 04:57:30 pm
I have to say, in that scenario, a great design for a bucket is not particularly useful.

I would say it is relative to the situation, having thought about it.

Say he is on a small, one man yacht, with no buckets or materials to make a bucket. In that situation you could cut a square from the sail and origami yourself a box, which would be a good design for a bucket, in the situation.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Thursday 27 July 2017, 05:02:47 pm
I would say you gits overanalyzing a quip is the only thing less entertaining than the greek puns thread
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Thursday 27 July 2017, 05:04:42 pm
I have to say, in that scenario, a great design for a bucket is not particularly useful.

I would say it is relative to the situation, having thought about it.

Say he is on a small, one man yacht, with no buckets or materials to make a bucket. In that situation you could cut a square from the sail and origami yourself a box, which would be a good design for a bucket, in the situation.


Well, clearly, we need to be provided more specific details regarding the situation before being able to determine the relative usefulness of said bucket design.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 29 July 2017, 12:16:08 am
Falcon Heavy to have it's maiden launch in November according to Musk.  Will be the most powerful rocket in the world when it launches :thup:

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Thursday night, SpaceX founder Elon Musk tweeted that the Falcon Heavy rocket would make its maiden launch in November from Launch Complex-39A in Florida. Although this event has been long promised by the company, with real hardware being tested and moved across the country, this date finally feels real.

If it works, the Falcon Heavy will have the capability to lift about 2.5 times more cargo into low Earth orbit than the Falcon 9 rocket, easily giving SpaceX the most powerful rocket in the world. It will be capable of sending heavier payloads into geostationary space for the military and may serve NASA as the agency seeks to ramp up its activity near the Moon.

edit to add:  Seems they're thinking about trying to return the upper stage as well as the boosters on this launch :frantic:

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 29 July 2017, 01:43:22 am
I would say you gits overanalyzing a quip is the only thing less entertaining than the greek puns thread

But without it you wouldn't be inspired to share your illuminating wit.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 July 2017, 08:52:13 am
https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/28/heres-what-its-like-to-drive-the-tesla-model-3/?utm_source=tcfbpage&sr_share=facebook
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 10 August 2017, 08:38:24 am
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Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced in April that the company is working on pushing a long-haul electric semi truck to market, which is set to be formally revealed in September. Now, Reuters has viewed e-mail correspondence between Tesla and the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles that indicate that the company has discussed testing semi trucks on the state’s roads.

The Reuters report also mentioned that the semis would be outfitted with autonomous functions, so they could traverse the nation’s highways without a driver in the front seat. The e-mails seemed to indicate that Tesla’s semis would “platoon,” that is, drive in a formation such that a number of trucks could follow a lead vehicle. It’s unclear whether the lead vehicle would have a driver or operate autonomously with a person in the front seat to monitor safety.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/08/reuters-tesla-looking-to-start-testing-autonomous-semi-in-platoon-formation/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Thursday 10 August 2017, 01:17:55 pm
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 24 November 2017, 06:38:50 am
Chalk another one up for the Big E :D

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Tesla has completed construction of a massive 100 megawatt, 129 MWh battery installation in South Australia. The new facility boasts the largest megawatt rating for any grid-connected battery installation in the world.

The project was completed less than two months after the contract was signed on September 29, putting it ahead of schedule. Musk had promised Australian authorities that he would complete the project in 100 days or the project would be free. Musk has said it would cost Tesla "$50 million or more" if the company failed to meet the deadline.

"Congratulations to the Tesla crew and South Australian authorities who worked so hard to get this manufactured and installed in record time!" Musk tweeted late on Wednesday night (Thursday in Australia).

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/elon-musk-wins-bet-finishing-massive-battery-installation-in-100-days/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Saturday 2 December 2017, 02:52:27 am
he drunk tweets too. What a c***.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 2 December 2017, 09:10:33 am
So he's gonna use the maiden flight of his new rocket to launch his car into orbit around Mars? :lol:

This is the kind of s*** you'd dream about doing if you somehow managed to become a billionaire :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 25 January 2018, 02:14:49 am
Falcon Heavy had a successful static fire the other day, should be launching within about a week. :frantic:

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There was smoke, there was fire—and, most importantly, nothing on the launch pad appeared to blow up. Shortly after noon ET on Wednesday, SpaceX test fired all 27 engines on its Falcon Heavy rocket, a key step toward launching the massive booster from Florida.

The company did not immediately provide details about the technical performance of the booster during the test. On Twitter, however, company founder Elon Musk said the test fire was "good," and that this cleared the way for a launch within "a week or so." Although the company has not provided a date for launch, it is likely to occur no earlier than some time in early February.

Musk has promised excitement during the launch—either because the most powerful rocket since the space shuttle will take off and soar into space, or there will be some kind of spectacular in-flight anomaly during the test flight. No rocket with three cores and so many engines has successfully launched from Earth before.

Because of the experimental nature of the flight, SpaceX has chosen a whimsical payload, Musk's "midnight cherry Tesla Roadster." The vehicle will be sent in an elongated orbit that will take it out into the Solar System, near Mars. "Will be in deep space for a billion years or so if it doesn't blow up on ascent," Musk said.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/spacex-has-test-fired-its-falcon-heavy-rocket/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Sunday 28 January 2018, 02:30:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKQPHC4JyAU
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 29 January 2018, 01:05:54 am
Hope elon musk runs over that nerd.

edit: every word in that sentence had 4 letters :bong:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 29 January 2018, 01:08:35 am
I’ve pre-ordered his flamethrower.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 29 January 2018, 08:07:19 am
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Rumpelstiltskin Solano on Monday 29 January 2018, 09:24:30 am
 :D :D Every billionaire should be doing this rather than just sitting around in their hot tubs in their ivory towers lunching on caviar and hanging out with Carol Smilie in Vegas
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 03:42:25 pm
Today's the day! :frantic:

(https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Falcon-Heavy-Feb-5th-2017-9964-980x1470.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Elric on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 03:53:41 pm
Dude sold $10m worth of flamethrowers. Gets a pass from me :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 04:13:38 pm
Shamelessly pinching this from another forum:

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Burning through 6 900kg/s of RP-1 and LOX (unverified throttling down to about 94% for today) giving 83GW total thermal power release, making for some 59GW at the engine end. All this goodness coming from a combined nozzle area with equivalent diameter of 4.8m.

The energy being released in a single second is enough to boil a liter of water every single day for 600years straight. (or boil and evaporate 32m3 /8450 US gallons/ of water)

At the very surface of the Sun the energy output is about 62.8MW/m2. (across the spectrum)
In other words during launch, Falcon Heavy, is using as much energy as 1 322m2 (14200sq.ft.) of the surface of the Sun is emitting!!! (square with side of half the height of FH)

Since I mentioned the Sun already, if I continue the comparison (talking about scale) but this time take into account the power output of the whole Sun it will take almost 150 Falcon Heavies firing together, non-stop, for a million years to use up the same amount of energy, the Sun is giving in a single second.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 04:58:01 pm
That might as well have been in greek.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:23:48 pm
Its amazing how this has essentially come from one man's vision. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:26:01 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:43:15 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   
I can't remember the exact date, but I'm fairly certain the plan is to get a manned mission to Mars by mid 20's iirc.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:48:45 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   

If it works it'll be the most powerful rocket in the world and the plan is for all three boosters to come back and land which is amazing enough in itself. 

It's a test flight which paves the way for further missions and gives NASA a heavy lift capability for a fraction of the cost of the current setup which means they can lob more probes out into the solar system.  The next development after this is the BFR which is going to be huge and will enable even more significant payloads to be launched to places like Mars than we're currently capable of.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:49:48 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?
I thought this was a pretty cool move tbh

https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-our-patent-are-belong-you
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 05:59:57 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   

The payload we'll be able to send into space or Mars almost doubles if the launch is a success and at a much lower cost.  Big win for science and for telecommunications across the globe.

He has plans for Mars missions and for a base on the moon.

It's one area that private companies are doing much better than Nasa at.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 06:07:34 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   

The payload we'll be able to send into space or Mars almost doubles if the launch is a success and at a much lower cost.  Big win for science and for telecommunications across the globe.

He has plans for Mars missions and for a base on the moon.

It's one area that private companies are doing much better than Nasa at.

Aye, the NASA rocket under development is plagued with vested interests and is costing an absolute fortune.  It's only planned to launch a few times too costing about $2bn a launch or something stupid.

I can understand the need to maintain expertise and capability but the SLS is using old technology, doesn't really take us forward much and has turned into a bit of a jobs program for the states with manufacturing facilites.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 06:09:43 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   

The payload we'll be able to send into space or Mars almost doubles if the launch is a success and at a much lower cost.  Big win for science and for telecommunications across the globe.

He has plans for Mars missions and for a base on the moon.

It's one area that private companies are doing much better than Nasa at.

Aye, the NASA rocket under development is plagued with vested interests and is costing an absolute fortune.  It's only planned to launch a few times too costing about $2bn a launch or something stupid.

I can understand the need to maintain expertise and capability but the SLS is using old technology, doesn't really take us forward much and has turned into a bit of a jobs program for the states with manufacturing facilites.
I assume the main advantage of this rocket is that they can be reused continually, there for youre only having to refuel it?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 06:20:55 pm
How long before he actually starts doing something meaningful though?  As fun as this is, and I know it has test qualities to it, the car just being an unconventional cargo, but like, is this the precursor to some sort of manned mission?  I don't follow him/them (SpaceX) enough to know.   

The payload we'll be able to send into space or Mars almost doubles if the launch is a success and at a much lower cost.  Big win for science and for telecommunications across the globe.

He has plans for Mars missions and for a base on the moon.

It's one area that private companies are doing much better than Nasa at.

Aye, the NASA rocket under development is plagued with vested interests and is costing an absolute fortune.  It's only planned to launch a few times too costing about $2bn a launch or something stupid.

I can understand the need to maintain expertise and capability but the SLS is using old technology, doesn't really take us forward much and has turned into a bit of a jobs program for the states with manufacturing facilites.
I assume the main advantage of this rocket is that they can be reused continually, there for youre only having to refuel it?

Which one?  The Falcons can land their first stages for re-use which obviously helps keeps costs down as well as being incredibly awesome, the NASA rocket just gets chucked away every launch.

Really, tell me this isn't one of the coolest things you've ever seen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jEz03Z8azc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEvogjdEVY

Just for reference, these things are f***ing big too:

(https://i.redd.it/pq77omcrwge01.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 07:42:04 pm
Yeah first stage, it's an incredible feat tbh. Think the second stage can land now as well.

Long term, if Space X were to form a colony on the Moon/Mars. What do you think would happen politically, will it be owned by a company, or do you think the US or else where would try and claim it as there own?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 07:58:13 pm
Yeah first stage, it's an incredible feat tbh. Think the second stage can land now as well.

Long term, if Space X were to form a colony on the Moon/Mars. What do you think would happen politically, will it be owned by a company, or do you think the US or else where would try and claim it as there own?

Initially it'd be a colony of whichever country it's from (US or China most likely) imo for a few reasons.  No company alone is gonna have the resources to build it's own colony, it'd need government involvement, the colonists would still be citizens of that country and so fall under it's laws and protections whoever 'owns' the land and it's the government that controls launches so you do it on their terms or not at all.

Asteroid mining, on the other hand, will be a capitalist free-for-all for the western companies that manage to make it.

Reckon the FH launch might get scrubbed btw.  Launch has been put back twice now due to weather conditions currently slated for 3:45 EST but the launch window is only open until 4:00 so they can't push it back much further.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 08:52:36 pm
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 08:55:37 pm
Holy f*** that was impressive.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 08:57:12 pm
f***ing hell, such a engineering masterpiece.
Love stuff like this!

Stop pointless wars and s***, let's explore space!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:00:24 pm
wew
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:03:29 pm
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:33:29 pm
One of the coolest things I've ever seen. Hats off to Space X and Elon!

f*** wars and that bullshit, inspire the world like this and spend Colback/Neymar's wedge on getting to space
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:43:39 pm
Amazing stuff, shame it looks like the central core hasn't made the landing though.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:50:59 pm

ffs :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:56:14 pm
Amazing stuff, shame it looks like the central core hasn't made the landing though.

Has this been confirmed?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: La Parka on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 09:57:19 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 10:02:34 pm
What are they going to do with it? Or is it just space litter?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 10:09:07 pm
Amazing stuff, shame it looks like the central core hasn't made the landing though.

Has this been confirmed?


No but the silence on Twitter says it all imo. Apparently on the stream they said they'd lost the central core, whether they were referring to the feed or the thing itself isn't clear. Pretty sure they'd have instantly told us about it had it landed safely.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 10:31:13 pm
What are they going to do with it? Or is it just space litter?

Was certainly not the intention, unlike the recent southern hemisphere launch of the reflective satellite. Big downer if the core rocket failed to land though, but not as if it they haven't failed the landings before.

Live and learn. And that is the point.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: The Little Waster on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 10:52:08 pm
Meh , when i was a kid we used to put humans ( as opposed to dummies ) into space and on the moon every other week with less computing power than the latest iphone
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:01:44 pm
Aye, but tbh that was borderline suicide stuff. Lucky if you got back at all.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:04:38 pm
Meh , when i was a kid we used to put humans ( as opposed to dummies ) into space and on the moon every other week with less computing power than the latest iphone
I honesty can't comprehend this train of thought tbh :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: The Little Waster on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:15:04 pm
Meh , when i was a kid we used to put humans ( as opposed to dummies ) into space and on the moon every other week with less computing power than the latest iphone
I honesty can't comprehend this train of thought tbh :lol:

It means that Musks achievement  is way less than the Apollo missions ...
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:25:50 pm
Meh , when i was a kid we used to put humans ( as opposed to dummies ) into space and on the moon every other week with less computing power than the latest iphone
I honesty can't comprehend this train of thought tbh :lol:

It means that Musks achievement  is way less than the Apollo missions ...
Obviously, but its still really freaking impressive, and i'd actually say its one of the biggest engineering feats of this century tbh.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:26:08 pm
What's the point in putting a human in space when robots can do their job much better?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:30:42 pm
 :lol:

(https://i.imgur.com/GUHPnwU.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:32:00 pm
https://gfycat.com/BlindMeanGordonsetter

So f***ing cool man.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:33:17 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be31IJxgOoK/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:36:13 pm

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:38:24 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 11:38:29 pm
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:18:51 am
The final core ran out of fuel, hit the sea at 300mph and damaged the landing ship.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:20:35 am
Unbelievable success today. What about the plan announced last year to send a tourist to the Moon this year? Was that a joke or what? :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BottledDog on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:45:39 am
How f***ing refreshing and life affirming is this press conference btw. After what this country is going through with w*****s voting to make the world smaller and the inevitable fallout from that, this is humanity pushing forward, and despite the obvious commercial investment, there is a fantastic pan national joy to it. Fair f***ing play to that.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:47:20 am
https://www.theonion.com/spacex-reveals-all-400-dogs-on-falcon-rocket-failed-to-1822775849
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 01:27:55 am
Reddit are a bit happy with this, the front page currently:

(https://i.gyazo.com/bac3cbb7124522e70853a74f1c39f278.png)

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 01:46:10 am
I legit love the fact that we just launched the most powerful rocket, but it's the damn landing of the boosters that still blow my GD mind. Those things are on the brink of space and we land them perfectly. Absolutely mind blowing.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 02:23:41 am
I legit love the fact that we just launched the most powerful rocket, but it's the damn landing of the boosters that still blow my GD mind. Those things are on the brink of space and we land them perfectly. Absolutely mind blowing.

The landing just looked like the launch tape in reverse.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 05:20:09 am
Absolutely incredible.  Been humming Bowie all morning :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 08:44:01 am
This really does change everything.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:01:00 am
That might as well have been in greek.

Oooh look at me, look at me. I can speak Greek. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:51:02 pm
To put it into context, them side boosters are 16 stories tall. Absolutely incredible.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: TheHoob on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:53:18 pm
Flat earthers fighting back I see  :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:56:04 pm
Flat earthers fighting back I see  :lol:

There's one of them with a rocket who can't even get it off the ground.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 12:57:34 pm
Flat earthers fighting back I see  :lol:

There's one of them with a rocket who can't even get it off the ground.
Every guys worst nightmare.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 01:00:01 pm
Flat earthers fighting back I see  :lol:

How they denying this one?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: TheHoob on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 01:28:35 pm
Saw a few claiming it was CGI, another few saying one of the pics from the car was obviously a fake because all you could see was ocean, as if the most nefarious minds in the world who have managed to pull the wool over everyone's eyes had made some kind of glaring oversight and they were genius for noticing  :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 02:04:54 pm
(https://i.redd.it/hhyp9xymyqe01.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 02:20:34 pm
he drunk tweets too. What a c***.


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-2Z0Y3Kk8nU/maxresdefault.jpg)


ffs :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 02:44:03 pm
he drunk tweets too. What a c***.


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-2Z0Y3Kk8nU/maxresdefault.jpg)


ffs :lol:

Lying b******.  It was 'Life on Mars'.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 03:51:18 pm
Did he have to get permission to play that?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 04:50:32 pm
Coast and final burn were successful, the orbit takes it out as far as the asteroid belt.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVZ0h3YW4AIc-9w.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 04:57:24 pm
Is there any way we can track where abouts the car is now?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 05:00:15 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 05:11:22 pm
Na, people are oblivious. My GF and my mates had no idea what it was or why it was happening. My lass seen something on twitter and thought it was an advert for a game, so scrolled past it.

She's currently orbiting Jupiter.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 05:36:46 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Plenty of people I know either aren't bothered or didn't have a clue it was happening. I guess unless they see it on Facebook they would never know. Does make me wonder how you can't be impressed with a massive rocket launching something in to space, then the two boosters landing perfectly after, though I suppose what outfit a Kardashian is wearing today is far more interesting.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:17:26 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?
Which bit? I don't give a f*** about any of it really
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:23:27 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.

I didn't really give a s*** until it took off.  I'm not into all the Musk-wankfestery and all that, but still a great feat.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:26:31 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.
It's just bullshit surely? He sent a car to space didn't he, to advertise his cars? Therefore he's just a peddler.

Was reading some stuff on Twitter earlier that rang true; do something about poverty mate. Then start firing cars into space.

You can call your space travel affordable all you want but it never will be for anyone but the 1% you're a part of, so p*ss off.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:27:51 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.
It's just bullshit surely? He sent a car to space didn't he, to advertise his cars? Therefore he's just a peddler.

Was reading some stuff on Twitter earlier that rang true; do something about poverty mate. Then start firing cars into space.

You can call your space travel affordable all you want but it never will be for anyone but the 1% you're a part of, so p*ss off.

I can't decide if you are serious with this post.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:31:01 pm
The detail he tries to avoid going into is staggering. Nobody learns space travel physics to promote the sale of an electric car ffs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sytrrdOPYzA
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:31:30 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.
It's just bullshit surely? He sent a car to space didn't he, to advertise his cars? Therefore he's just a peddler.

Was reading some stuff on Twitter earlier that rang true; do something about poverty mate. Then start firing cars into space.

You can call your space travel affordable all you want but it never will be for anyone but the 1% you're a part of, so p*ss off.

I can't decide if you are serious with this post.
I don't care about any of it, it's too far removed from reality for me to relate to. I guess the car thongs was a joke but in my defence I thought that was reputable when I was half asleep this morning.

If what he's doing is going to make a difference to the lives of poor people then please let me know how because we've literally got to the point where it's the most important thing in our lives, not 'affordable' space travel.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:34:09 pm
:lol: Daily Mojo isn't happy.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:34:15 pm
So what we should just stop trying to inovate and improve as a society, until one (admittedly massive) issue is fixed?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:37:52 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.
It's just bullshit surely? He sent a car to space didn't he, to advertise his cars? Therefore he's just a peddler.

Was reading some stuff on Twitter earlier that rang true; do something about poverty mate. Then start firing cars into space.

You can call your space travel affordable all you want but it never will be for anyone but the 1% you're a part of, so p*ss off.

I can't decide if you are serious with this post.
I don't care about any of it, it's too far removed from reality for me to relate to. I guess the car thongs was a joke but in my defence I thought that was reputable when I was half asleep this morning.

If what he's doing is going to make a difference to the lives of poor people then please let me know how because we've literally got to the point where it's the most important thing in our lives, not 'affordable' space travel.

I dunno if you are intentionally missing the point, but his goal is to save humanity by preventing / reversing global warming, whilst kick starting a space race in order to find us a new planet before we inevitably ruin this one :lol:

There will be no poor people if the earth dies :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:37:53 pm
So what we should just stop trying to inovate and improve as a society, until one (admittedly massive) issue is fixed?
Not at all, just recognise it for what it is, a rich man having a great time.  He's changing nothing in our lifetimes with this, nothing whatsoever.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:39:51 pm
Instead of kicking up a fuss about 1 mega rich person doing something productive with their money, focus on the others who simply horde it away for the good of no one.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:39:55 pm
Any of it.  I'm not really saying anything against people not caring, just that I'm surprised by the amount thinking that.
It's just bullshit surely? He sent a car to space didn't he, to advertise his cars? Therefore he's just a peddler.

Was reading some stuff on Twitter earlier that rang true; do something about poverty mate. Then start firing cars into space.

You can call your space travel affordable all you want but it never will be for anyone but the 1% you're a part of, so p*ss off.

I can't decide if you are serious with this post.
I don't care about any of it, it's too far removed from reality for me to relate to. I guess the car thongs was a joke but in my defence I thought that was reputable when I was half asleep this morning.

If what he's doing is going to make a difference to the lives of poor people then please let me know how because we've literally got to the point where it's the most important thing in our lives, not 'affordable' space travel.

I dunno if you are intentionally missing the point, but his goal is to save humanity by preventing / reversing global warming, whilst kick starting a space race in order to find us a new planet before we inevitably ruin this one [emoji38]

There will be no poor people if the earth dies :thup:
Again, yeah, lofty ambitions. Admirable.

There are literally thousands of people starving and dying every second though, so...
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:40:45 pm
That may be true, but why does it matter if it effects people in our lifetime, if it it even remotely improves the lives of people in the next generation, then it's a good thing.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:42:19 pm
f*** the people in the next generation. I'm not there.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:42:39 pm
:lol: :lol: Mojo get some rest man. Lots of people do lots of things that don't involve solving world hunger and curing cancer. Elon is taking on moving us to a new planet once we f*** this one over, it's perfectly admirable. Much more admirable than arguing about Elon Musk on an internet forum at least.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:43:53 pm
If Elon doesn't get us to Mars while I'm alive he can go f*** himself.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:46:28 pm
If Elon doesn't get us to Mars while I'm alive he can go f*** himself.

Agreed.

I'm sure that's why WWII didn't happened. Who gives a f*** about the safety and freedom of generations to come. My grandpa didn't wanna get shot running up Omaha beach. He's got his own life to take care of.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:48:29 pm
Love mojo. :lol:

In the right mood, or a bad one, I'd be agreeing with every word you've said, but I'm less cynical today.  It's down to Governments to solve poverty, not individuals. :aww:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:49:20 pm
[emoji38] [emoji38] Mojo get some rest man. Lots of people do lots of things that don't involve solving world hunger and curing cancer. Elon is taking on moving us to a new planet once we f*** this one over, it's perfectly admirable. Much more admirable than arguing about Elon Musk on an internet forum at least.
I seem to recall saying it was admirable myself, a couple of posts ago.

I suppose the point is that this rich gentleman has started PayPal, got rich, started Tesla, got richer, and now started firing cars into space to get richer.

He could have done all of these things and maybe still thought of a unique and innovative way to help the less fortunate in society...

He might have done, and in which case I apologise unequivocally, however Jezza has brought me back to reality.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:49:35 pm
If Elon doesn't get us to Mars while I'm alive he can go f*** himself.
He should take you.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:51:38 pm
It's cost him a billion quid of his own money to "fire his car" into orbit. If anything, this proves how s*** governments are that NASA has done f*** all to push this technology forward. Yet one rich bloke can.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:52:34 pm
Also, it's been reported he only has $1 yearly salary at Tesla.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:53:32 pm
If Elon doesn't get us to Mars while I'm alive he can go f*** himself.
He should take you.

I'm not leaving Earth unless Mars becomes a 1% haven.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:54:17 pm
He's working on sorting out LA traffic. If that's not helping people then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:54:52 pm
If Elon doesn't get us to Mars while I'm alive he can go f*** himself.
He should take you.

I'm not leaving Earth unless Mars becomes a 1% haven.
Sounds like a communist paradise atm mind. Careful.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:55:19 pm
bunch of coastal ingrates. ya'll don't deserve hyperloop. giv iz hyperloop elan son
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:55:43 pm
He built that battery in Oz that has the same electric producing capacity as a coal power plant. And he done it in months, not years.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 06:59:57 pm
He built that battery in Oz that has the same electric producing capacity as a coal power plant. And he done it in months, not years.
Class! When do my bills go down?

I'm being a total dick here I know, Musk rules surely. I just can't afford to eat atm so it's hard to get excited.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BottledDog on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:00:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImoQqNyRL8Y

Wait for the sonic booms (use headphones).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:04:59 pm
Mojo, That may be the most self centered thing I've read this year. Fair play. :lol:

Edit: Didn't read the second sentence, I'm a dick. Sorry.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:05:33 pm
He built that battery in Oz that has the same electric producing capacity as a coal power plant. And he done it in months, not years.
Class! When do my bills go down?

I'm being a total dick here I know, Musk rules surely. I just can't afford to eat atm so it's hard to get excited.

:thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:06:24 pm
Mojo, That may be the most self centered thing I've read this year. Fair play. [emoji38]
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:09:24 pm
Didn't read the second sentence, before posting,
 I'm a dick. My bad. Sorry.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:10:37 pm
bunch of coastal ingrates. ya'll don't deserve hyperloop. giv iz hyperloop elan son

An LA where I don't have to sit in traffic for an hour to go two miles :sweetjesus:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:12:40 pm
[emoji38] [emoji38] Mojo get some rest man. Lots of people do lots of things that don't involve solving world hunger and curing cancer. Elon is taking on moving us to a new planet once we f*** this one over, it's perfectly admirable. Much more admirable than arguing about Elon Musk on an internet forum at least.
I seem to recall saying it was admirable myself, a couple of posts ago.

I suppose the point is that this rich gentleman has started PayPal, got rich, started Tesla, got richer, and now started firing cars into space to get richer.

He could have done all of these things and maybe still thought of a unique and innovative way to help the less fortunate in society...

He might have done, and in which case I apologise unequivocally, however Jezza has brought me back to reality.

:lol: Firing cars into space is a very lucrative business to be in, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:34:26 pm
All that money could be better spent on the homeless or Ethiopia or something. Egotistical rich w*****.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:39:45 pm
All that money could be better spent on the homeless or Ethiopia or something. Egotistical rich w*****.

The homeless can just go live on the LA freeways once the hyperloops are in place.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Elric on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:46:03 pm
All that money could be better spent on the homeless or Ethiopia or something. Egotistical rich w*****.

Give them a tenner. Elon Barnes.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 07:50:35 pm
Just read that Falcon heavy has the same thrust as eighteen 747s running at full tilt :lol: Comically powerful.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 08:39:10 pm
All that money could be better spent on the homeless or Ethiopia or something. Egotistical rich w*****.

Give them a tenner. Elon Barnes.
[emoji38] :clap:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 08:43:28 pm
:lol: :lol: Mojo get some rest man. Lots of people do lots of things that don't involve solving world hunger and curing cancer. Elon is taking on moving us to a new planet once we f*** this one over, it's perfectly admirable. Much more admirable than arguing about Elon Musk on an internet forum at least.

He's finding a new planet for us to f*** over when there's nowt left to f*** over on this one. He's also making it possible that in future we might f*** over multiple planets all at the same time.

Very commendable.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 08:45:27 pm
bunch of coastal ingrates. ya'll don't deserve hyperloop. giv iz hyperloop elan son

An LA where I don't have to sit in traffic for an hour to go two miles :sweetjesus:

You couldn't walk 2 miles? Yeah, Jesus feels your pain.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 08:56:30 pm
bunch of coastal ingrates. ya'll don't deserve hyperloop. giv iz hyperloop elan son

An LA where I don't have to sit in traffic for an hour to go two miles :sweetjesus:

You couldn't walk 2 miles? Yeah, Jesus feels your pain.

I'm not a crazy hobo person. Someone walking in LA... :scared:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 09:58:49 pm
Growing up in Florida, they made us go out into the field - the entire school - and watch the shuttles go off. It was incredibly inspiring and amazing to watch.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:04:37 pm
Supposedly the last picture:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Be6VZEzgAEk/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:05:02 pm
Wait, we have instagram embedding now? :notbad:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kimbo on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:10:42 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:10:45 pm
Wait, we have instagram embedding now? :notbad:

:coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:18:18 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.
That and supersonic travel.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:20:16 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.
That and supersonic travel.
https://youtu.be/zqE-ultsWt0
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:27:23 pm
I wonder how many of Musk's idea's are actually Nikola Tesla's (obviously uses the name for his car's)

But when Tesla died the U.S government seized all his documents.

Wireless was invented by Tesla ffs.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 10:48:50 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/1jUVfPt.gif)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 11:36:13 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.

Only the fifty years or so between Wright Brothers on the beaches of North Carolina to Armstrong and the moon, but who's really counting?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 11:36:57 pm
https://www.facebook.com/rich.miller.984/posts/10215295019435927

https://www.facebook.com/tim.seymour.545/posts/10208593324910650

That is so f***ing cool. The sonic booms ahhhhhh.

The sonic booms from the shuttle used to shake my sliding glass doors at my house about 150 miles away.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kimbo on Wednesday 7 February 2018, 11:48:42 pm
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.

Only the fifty years or so between Wright Brothers on the beaches of North Carolina and us sending objects and people into space, but who's really counting?

The point is we haven't been any further since we first landed on the moon, which only happened because of the cold war. I think that would shock people from that period. If only we could dig them up and ask them.

It's possible we will never see a Mars landing, for us to make that next step big step in space travel it will take something huge like contact with Aliens or a race for necessary resources. Also future space travel will probably be using AI, which is a lot less romantic.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:04:29 am
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.

Only the fifty years or so between Wright Brothers on the beaches of North Carolina and us sending objects and people into space, but who's really counting?

The point is we haven't been any further since we first landed on the moon, which only happened because of the cold war. I think that would shock people from that period. If only we could dig them up and ask them.

It's possible we will never see a Mars landing, for us to make that next step big step in space travel it will take something huge like contact with Aliens or a race for necessary resources. Also future space travel will probably be using AI, which is a lot less romantic.

A lot of them are still alive you know.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:24:51 am
Does anyone find it strange how many people that don't give a s*** about this?  Or am hanging with the wrong folk?

Progress when it comes to space travel has been 1000x slower than we thought it was going to be, I think most people have given up it.

Only the fifty years or so between Wright Brothers on the beaches of North Carolina and us sending objects and people into space, but who's really counting?

The point is we haven't been any further since we first landed on the moon, which only happened because of the cold war. I think that would shock people from that period. If only we could dig them up and ask them.

It's possible we will never see a Mars landing, for us to make that next step big step in space travel it will take something huge like contact with Aliens or a race for necessary resources. Also future space travel will probably be using AI, which is a lot less romantic.

The rocket launched itself yesterday, but I get your bigger point.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:38:34 am
https://www.facebook.com/rich.miller.984/posts/10215295019435927

https://www.facebook.com/tim.seymour.545/posts/10208593324910650

That is so f***ing cool. The sonic booms ahhhhhh.

The sonic booms from the shuttle used to shake my sliding glass doors at my house about 150 miles away.



Welcome to the future.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:20:50 am
TIL I need to move to Florida.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:57:40 am
TIL I need to move to Florida.

:lol: are you a white Republican over the age of 65?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 8 February 2018, 02:19:37 am
TIL I need to move to Florida.

:lol: are you a white Republican over the age of 65?

He's Irish, it's close enough.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Thursday 8 February 2018, 08:55:28 am
He'd melt.

Anyway, Elon Musk is a weirdo and has a name that sounds like an air freshener. Off putting even if he is a bright guy.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: The Little Waster on Thursday 8 February 2018, 10:12:49 am
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/07/tesla-quarterly-loss-elon-musk-spacex

Hope you all enjoyed the fireworks show 😎
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 11:13:26 am
f*** me, I thought I was miserable until I read the last few pages in here. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 8 February 2018, 11:24:58 am
f*** me, I thought I was miserable until I read the last few pages in here. :lol:

:lol: I'm shocked at Mojo, tbh. I'm 100% SpaceX doesn't exists purely to send soft tops into space.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:43:24 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:54:55 pm
Nearly jumped to mojo's defence tbh but my rep has taken enough of a hit these last two years so thought I'd best leave this one alone [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 12:57:33 pm
I can't think of a single argument against it tbh, especially when you consider this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:00:58 pm
I'm not against any of it, I'm just not very interested in it, which I think is where it all started :) that's why i just left mojo to swing; I could have taken a position at a push but couldn't work up the enthusiasm to fight on another front
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:03:31 pm
Maybe we should all just post in threads we're not interested in, to tell people that we're not interested in the subjects that they're about, instead of the ones we're interested in. To the NFL thread!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:04:32 pm
[emoji38] very good

But somebody actively asked yesterday if there were people who weren't interested, I think that's where all the ire originated :)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:06:15 pm
:morph:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:26:11 pm
[emoji38] very good

But somebody actively asked yesterday if there were people who weren't interested, I think that's where all the ire originated :)


So disinterested that they were there in the thread, reading the thread, and ready to answer that question with a yes. :lol: I'm being pedantic like, but I do think there's some of truth in that.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:38:06 pm
The thread is called 'Elon Musk', not 'space rockets that openc doesn't care about'
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:38:57 pm
Hmm, okay.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 01:42:57 pm
Last time I read it, it was about flamethrowers. I wasn't interested in them either, just so we're straight :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 8 February 2018, 02:27:03 pm
what if the space rocket smelled nice tho
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:09:51 pm

That's why I clicked the thread originally tbh, assumed that Elon Musk was some sort of perfumery ingredient which I was previously unaware of, like Nitro Musk or Animalic Musk
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:09:59 pm
:lol: He's got you there, C.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:13:31 pm

I had never heard of the bloke until I read this thread for the first time a few weeks ago tbh, and was unaware of any of this stuff about cars feasibly leaving the atmosphere until yesterday
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:16:33 pm
I might not have been entirely serious in my passionate criticism of Mr. Musk and his spectacular Rocket show.  Of course there are always spinoffs and benefits to scientific research and development, with any luck from this one we'll find out how to stop c***s sleeping in doorways when there's houses all over the place :whistle:

On that note why are we sending aid to India when they spend money on a space program etc.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:20:03 pm

In broad agreement with mojo like

That last bit is properly Daily Mail though, gan canny
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:24:39 pm

In broad agreement with mojo like

That last bit is properly Daily Mail though, gan canny
Hahaha come on dude!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: HTT on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:50:32 pm
Meh, he’s achieved nowt until he manages to get a plane to leave the atmosphere!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 8 February 2018, 03:53:13 pm
I might not have been entirely serious in my passionate criticism of Mr. Musk and his spectacular Rocket show.  Of course there are always spinoffs and benefits to scientific research and development, with any luck from this one we'll find out how to stop c***s sleeping in doorways when there's houses all over the place :whistle:

On that note why are we sending aid to India when they spend money on a space program etc.

Look, come on.  I'm as poverty-obsessed as they come, but it's not down to private individuals to alleviate poverty.  It is down to Governments to tax these rich b******s and then use that income to deal with poverty.  In fact, through taxation, both can be done at the same time.  He can pursue a legacy in space, and we take his well earned dollars.  Or rather, Trump cuts taxes so much he barely pays anything in tax, but the theory is right. :aww:

It would be nice to see these sorts of individuals do something for the bottom, but there's no point acting like they will.  One other point, can we stop with the "he's trying to save us by getting to Mars" nonsense as well.  Thanks. :angel:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 February 2018, 04:00:53 pm
I might not have been entirely serious in my passionate criticism of Mr. Musk and his spectacular Rocket show.  Of course there are always spinoffs and benefits to scientific research and development, with any luck from this one we'll find out how to stop c***s sleeping in doorways when there's houses all over the place :whistle:

On that note why are we sending aid to India when they spend money on a space program etc.

Look, come on.  I'm as poverty-obsessed as they come, but it's not down to private individuals to alleviate poverty.  It is down to Governments to tax these rich b******s and then use that income to deal with poverty.  In fact, through taxation, both can be done at the same time.  He can pursue a legacy in space, and we take his well earned dollars.  Or rather, Trump cuts taxes so much he barely pays anything in tax, but the theory is right. :aww:

It would be nice to see these sorts of individuals do something for the bottom, but there's no point acting like they will.  One other point, can we stop with the "he's trying to save us by getting to Mars" nonsense as well.  Thanks. :angel:
[emoji38] I won't settle until Musk has sorted s*** out min
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 8 February 2018, 04:13:05 pm
I might not have been entirely serious in my passionate criticism of Mr. Musk and his spectacular Rocket show.  Of course there are always spinoffs and benefits to scientific research and development, with any luck from this one we'll find out how to stop c***s sleeping in doorways when there's houses all over the place :whistle:

On that note why are we sending aid to India when they spend money on a space program etc.

Look, come on.  I'm as poverty-obsessed as they come, but it's not down to private individuals to alleviate poverty.  It is down to Governments to tax these rich b******s and then use that income to deal with poverty.  In fact, through taxation, both can be done at the same time.  He can pursue a legacy in space, and we take his well earned dollars.  Or rather, Trump cuts taxes so much he barely pays anything in tax, but the theory is right. :aww:

It would be nice to see these sorts of individuals do something for the bottom, but there's no point acting like they will.  One other point, can we stop with the "he's trying to save us by getting to Mars" nonsense as well.  Thanks. :angel:

Depends on who you mean by 'us' because the idea is to reduce the risk of human extinction, not save 'the people'

He's also going fully balls out of the bath with renewable energy as well, which can only really have a positive impact in terms of employment and industry.

I dunno, it seems pretty obvious that the criticism he's getting is only because he's in the news and being talked about for doing something. Now the complaint from some is that he should do something else and that this is proof that he's just another rich, selfish c***. Seems a bit churlish to me to criticise the one stand out mega-rich person that's doing anything other than nothing, when there's an entire ocean of dicks with equal wealth doing f*** all for anyone.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: cubaricho on Thursday 8 February 2018, 04:29:04 pm
what if the space rocket smelled nice tho

 :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 8 February 2018, 07:23:51 pm
I might not have been entirely serious in my passionate criticism of Mr. Musk and his spectacular Rocket show.  Of course there are always spinoffs and benefits to scientific research and development, with any luck from this one we'll find out how to stop c***s sleeping in doorways when there's houses all over the place :whistle:

On that note why are we sending aid to India when they spend money on a space program etc.

Look, come on.  I'm as poverty-obsessed as they come, but it's not down to private individuals to alleviate poverty.  It is down to Governments to tax these rich b******s and then use that income to deal with poverty.  In fact, through taxation, both can be done at the same time.  He can pursue a legacy in space, and we take his well earned dollars.  Or rather, Trump cuts taxes so much he barely pays anything in tax, but the theory is right. :aww:

It would be nice to see these sorts of individuals do something for the bottom, but there's no point acting like they will.  One other point, can we stop with the "he's trying to save us by getting to Mars" nonsense as well.  Thanks. :angel:

Depends on who you mean by 'us' because the idea is to reduce the risk of human extinction, not save 'the people'

He's also going fully balls out of the bath with renewable energy as well, which can only really have a positive impact in terms of employment and industry.

I dunno, it seems pretty obvious that the criticism he's getting is only because he's in the news and being talked about for doing something. Now the complaint from some is that he should do something else and that this is proof that he's just another rich, selfish c***. Seems a bit churlish to me to criticise the one stand out mega-rich person that's doing anything other than nothing, when there's an entire ocean of dicks with equal wealth doing f*** all for anyone.

:thup:  The latest project is a 250MW distributed solar installation in partnership with South Australia.  The project will reduce carbon emissions and save 1100 families in public housing 30% off their electricity bills free of charge to them.

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Just a few months after Tesla completed the world's biggest lithium-ion battery installation outside of the Hornsdale wind farm in South Australia, the Australian state and the electric vehicle-slash-energy company look like they're ready to partner again.

This time, South Australia wants to build a 250MW virtual power plant. The plant will consist of thousands of solar panels and batteries running software that decides when the batteries charge and discharge to maximize efficiency and value to the grid.

The buildout will start with 1,100 public housing properties. Residents sign up if they're interested in the program, and a Tesla contractor comes out to the home and tries to outfit a solar and battery storage solution to the house in question.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/02/tesla-and-south-australia-at-it-again-this-time-building-a-virtual-power-plant/

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Friday 9 February 2018, 01:19:09 pm
The Tesla roadstar has now been officially logged by NASA as a celestial object:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVhUPg2WsAAvXdw.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 9 February 2018, 03:38:44 pm
Space litter. :nope:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 20 February 2018, 08:58:43 pm
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Twinport53 on Thursday 22 February 2018, 01:15:25 am
The African children will love that.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 23 February 2018, 03:44:48 am
The test satellites for the starlink constellation have gone up.  The aim is to provide global gigabit broadband coverage when the constellation is complete in 5 or six years.  Think that'll be a massive step if he can accomplish it, everyone on earth having access to gigabit speed internet.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 23 February 2018, 10:11:44 am
The test satellites for the starlink constellation have gone up.  The aim is to provide global gigabit broadband coverage when the constellation is complete in 5 or six years.  Think that'll be a massive step if he can accomplish it, everyone on earth having access to gigabit speed internet.

That's f***ing mental. Is it a humanitarian thing, I.E. it'll be cheap in third world countries? Or do you think it'll be an expensive service for high flyin travellers and big business/military types?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 23 February 2018, 10:51:39 am
Creating a constellation is impressive. Has he considered the impacts on alien astrology?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 23 February 2018, 10:56:20 am
The test satellites for the starlink constellation have gone up.  The aim is to provide global gigabit broadband coverage when the constellation is complete in 5 or six years.  Think that'll be a massive step if he can accomplish it, everyone on earth having access to gigabit speed internet.

That's f***ing mental. Is it a humanitarian thing, I.E. it'll be cheap in third world countries? Or do you think it'll be an expensive service for high flyin travellers and big business/military types?
 

Average price is said to be $62.50 a month.  Obviously it'll be cheaper in less developed countries and more expensive in modernised nations, probably wholesaled to existing ISPs where it might be difficult to set up a presence.  Really interesting implications for nations that censor the internet like China and Russia.....

The final constellation is estimated to be around 12,500 satellites from what i've read today :yikes:

article on it from last year:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/spacex-plans-worldwide-satellite-internet-with-low-latency-gigabit-speed/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 23 February 2018, 11:01:35 am
Very cool, very cool indeed. Yeah, you're right about China etc, I wonder if they'll just make it illegal to access non-state-run / sanctioned ISP's?

Happy yet, Mojo? ;)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Friday 23 February 2018, 02:32:03 pm
So many more people will be able to spread their hate at breakneck speed. Marvelous.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 6 May 2018, 06:48:38 am

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 12 May 2018, 05:09:46 pm
Falcon 9 block 5 has had its first mission.

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If everything works as SpaceX engineers hope, these rockets will not need any “regular maintenance” between each flight, and that such work would only be done every 10 flights or so. To demonstrate this is really the case, some time next year, SpaceX plans to launch a Block 5 booster and then refly it again within 24 hours. “Literally no actions taken, just like an aircraft,” Musk said.

In other words, after the rocket lands it will be rotated to a horizontal position, have its landing legs stowed, moved to an integration facility, have a an upper stage and then a payload fairing attached, and then be moved back to the launch pad. That is the goal Musk has set for his team. (Even a one-week turnaround for an orbital rocket would be both remarkable and unprecedented in the aerospace industry.)

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/05/spacexs-block-5-rocket-passes-its-first-test-but-final-exams-remain/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 2 July 2018, 11:01:41 pm
Tesla have hit production targets for the model 3. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Monday 2 July 2018, 11:57:54 pm
Getting a contract for a 1.1GWh grid scale battery facility in California too apparently :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Gorilla on Wednesday 4 July 2018, 02:32:12 pm
Getting a contract for a 1.1GWh grid scale battery facility in California too apparently :thup:
Should have been 1.21 then we could go back to the 1950's.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 7 July 2018, 12:44:58 am
Getting a contract for a 1.1GWh grid scale battery facility in California too apparently :thup:
Should have been 1.21 then we could go back to the 1950's.

It could be 1.21GW depending on the rate of discharge as GW is a measure of power and GWh is a measure of power over time.

Since the flux capacitor was charged almost instantaneously from a bolt of lightning we can assume it requires the 1.21GW to be delivered in a single short burst.  1.1GWh is equivalent to about 3600 GJ which means we could achieve up to 3600 GW if the entire capacity of the array was delivered in one second.  We'd actually be able to charge the flux capacitor nearly 3000 times if discharging that much power over one second wouldn't destroy the batteries (it would).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Saturday 7 July 2018, 01:22:24 am
when even internet communists are tired of the (constant and obviously paid for) hit pieces and antagonistic attitudes held by many towards him you have admit maybe he's cool and good

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/29/1767826/-The-War-on-Tesla-Musk-and-the-Fight-for-the-Future
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 7 July 2018, 11:17:56 pm
Quote
Elon Musk is sending a team of engineers to Thailand to see if they can help authorities racing to save a dozen boys and their coach who are stranded in a cave there.

"SpaceX & Boring Co engineers headed to Thailand tomorrow to see if we can be helpful to govt," Musk tweeted just after midnight, California time, on Thursday night. "There are probably many complexities that are hard to appreciate without being there in person."

"Boring Co has advanced ground penetrating radar & is pretty good at digging holes," Musk wrote in an earlier tweet on Thursday.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 8 July 2018, 12:03:10 am
Oh aye, he's cool. He won't be cool when the richest 1% f*** off to mars and take every resource with them.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 8 July 2018, 07:02:34 am
Ok, so his plan is to use bits of his spaceship to build a miniature escape pod light enough for divers to carry / drag out.

Dude is a legend :lol:

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 8 July 2018, 08:45:10 am
Fair play to him. :thup:

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Monday 9 July 2018, 12:20:04 am
And launch Colback into space next
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 9 July 2018, 12:21:40 am
space x meet space wretch
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Odear on Monday 9 July 2018, 12:42:45 am
He’s basically Hank Scorpio. It’s hard not to like his mildly autistic mannerisms
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 9 July 2018, 06:52:27 am
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 9 July 2018, 07:54:54 am
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:17:06 am
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Yeah, that thought entered my head.  Didn't want to come into the wankfest though. :aww:

EDIT:  Come on guys, it's kind of right, don't paint s*** a different colour.  He may not be all talk in general, he literally was here. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:28:42 am
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Yeah, that thought entered my head.  Didn't want to come into the wankfest though. :aww:

EDIT:  Come on guys, it's kind of right, don't paint s*** a different colour.  He may not be all talk in general, he literally was here. 
Not really he sent people over there to actually try to help, it's not like he's just spouting a load of stuff on Twitter, they clearly came up with a plan but it just wasn't needed in this instance.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:40:11 am
For heaven's sake.  :lol:

Yes, so whilst there's all these other people there helping, they're not tweeting about it to get PR.  He is.  It's cynical, please don't tell me it's not.  It's the by-product of capitalism. 

I'm all for his endeavours, I just detest this inability to treat him with balance by people who like space travel.  He's not perfect, nobody is.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:49:07 am
For heaven's sake.  :lol:

Yes, so whilst there's all these other people there helping, they're not tweeting about it to get PR.  He is.  It's cynical, please don't tell me it's not.  It's the by-product of capitalism. 

I'm all for his endeavours, I just detest this inability to treat him with balance by people who like space travel.  He's not perfect, nobody is.
I was thinking the exact opposite thb. :lol: I hate it when people try and bring peoples opinion of something/someone down, over medial things, he's not doing any harm and is genuinely trying to help, let people stay in there bubble.

End of the day, everyones opinion is there own, and i'd never knock that, even if I disagree :)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:50:39 am
Why the f*** didn't just ring Thailand on the sly to see if they needed any help.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 9 July 2018, 10:53:53 am
Cannot see the issue with going public like. Not too bothered if he wanted promo out of it, I doubt that was the only reason he was interested in being involved.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 9 July 2018, 02:52:22 pm
I'll retract my cynicism on this occasion, as it's quite clear he's heavily involved even if they don't use it ultimately. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-submarine-tesla-diving-underwater-a8438166.html
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 9 July 2018, 03:40:54 pm
Send somebody down in a Sinclair C5. It's unlikely to work, but it would be great if it did.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 01:58:16 am
And he actually went there with the mini sub just encase.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 03:01:35 am
worra c***. just out for PR. probably demanded 10 ladyboys in tribute
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 07:57:32 am
He's such an attention-seeking t***. Can't believe he's done a gazza and turned up at the cave :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 08:15:56 am
Dude, they asked him to help and he had ground penetrating radar equipment and specialists there within 24 hours and built a f***ing child sized submarine out of spare spaceship parts in two days :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 09:55:27 am

I can't see that from work alas :(  Is it a tube for extraction of bairns from a flooded cave which is rapidly running out of oxygen and in danger of flooding still further?  In that context, I'd probably give it a shot like
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 10:03:54 am

I can't see that from work alas :(  Is it a tube for extraction of bairns from a flooded cave which is rapidly running out of oxygen and in danger of flooding still further?  In that context, I'd probably give it a shot like

Well when you put it like that...

"Made out of old space rocket parts, built by literal rocket scientists and it'll save your life."

"...Aye, gan on then. Twist me arm."
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: summerof69 on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 02:09:11 pm
Agreed poot. How exactly did they get stuck in the cave anyway ?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 02:17:30 pm
Walked in, then rain if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 02:31:58 pm
Pretty much it from I've read.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 03:53:54 pm
I give it 18 months until it's a Major Motion Picture (but set in America, and featuring some girls as well, and a couple who were arguing but whose love was saved by the experience, and various other themes of redemption and self-discovery through adversity)

Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox / Elon Musk
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 04:03:08 pm
I reckon they'll just hire The Rock to tear the top of the mountain off so they can swim out in wonderful sunlight.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 04:04:30 pm
I give it 18 months until it's a Major Motion Picture (but set in America, and featuring some girls as well, and a couple who were arguing but whose love was saved by the experience, and various other themes of redemption and self-discovery through adversity)

Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox / Elon Musk

(https://i.imgur.com/6PTdX7n.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 04:15:44 pm

:lol: quite so :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 04:23:13 pm
I give it 18 months until it's a Major Motion Picture (but set in America, and featuring some girls as well, and a couple who were arguing but whose love was saved by the experience, and various other themes of redemption and self-discovery through adversity)

Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox / Elon Musk

:lol: :nods:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: madras on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 11:12:58 pm
It would make a fantastic documentary series explaining everything, Why they had to wait between evacuating between the groups ?, why the quarintine etc ? Explain it better than the 2mins  if that that it gets. Get Attenbrough to do it....not the History channel!!
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 11:18:43 pm
It would make a fantastic documentary series explaining everything, Why they had to wait between evacuating between the groups ?, why the quarintine etc ? Explain it better than the 2mins  if that that it gets. Get Attenbrough to do it....not the History channel!!

IIRC it was about an 11 hour round trip for the divers going in to do the rescue.  Presumably they've been using the same divers for each run as they'd be the most familiar with the cave system so they'd need to rest between rescues.

I agree on the documentary thing, i'd love to see an in depth look at how the whole situation and rescue unfolded.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: madras on Tuesday 10 July 2018, 11:27:59 pm
It would make a fantastic documentary series explaining everything, Why they had to wait between evacuating between the groups ?, why the quarintine etc ? Explain it better than the 2mins  if that that it gets. Get Attenbrough to do it....not the History channel!!

IIRC it was about an 11 hour round trip for the divers going in to do the rescue.  Presumably they've been using the same divers for each run as they'd be the most familiar with the cave system so they'd need to rest between rescues.

I agree on the documentary thing, i'd love to see an in depth look at how the whole situation and rescue unfolded.
They'd probably do it as a 1hr thing as we haven't the focus for much more. Thered be loads of them aswell, give me one good 5hr in depth doc on it that I can spread over week (if it's good probably a couple of days).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Lotus on Wednesday 11 July 2018, 10:10:08 am
I give it 18 months until it's a Major Motion Picture (but set in America, and featuring some girls as well, and a couple who were arguing but whose love was saved by the experience, and various other themes of redemption and self-discovery through adversity)

Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox / Elon Musk

(https://i.imgur.com/6PTdX7n.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 14 July 2018, 05:45:45 pm
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-mini-submarine-british-driver-tham-luang-vern-unsworth-a8447166.html

Must just be bitter though.

Perhaps Musk can just take a hit on this one before we find more absurd ways to excuse him. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 14 July 2018, 05:53:00 pm
oh dude you can't say owt bad about our elon
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 14 July 2018, 06:11:46 pm
Can you imagine being that guy, or any of the other rescuers?  This is precisely why you don't make cynical PR moves, because there's real people at the other end doing the real work whilst you glorify in the theory of doing good work despite the fact your theory is actually a crock of s***.

He may well get a hard time off some, or by paid trolls, I really don't know or care.  He deserved the stick this time and I'm glad that there's one guy that no-one can second guess (as Musk himself tried to do when a Thai official said it was of no use), has literally told him to shove it up his arse.  Well played, sir. :icon_salut:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 14 July 2018, 06:33:51 pm
The leader of the rescue told him to keep going with the sub as a plan B.....

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 14 July 2018, 06:55:33 pm
:)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 14 July 2018, 07:05:20 pm
The leader of the rescue told him to keep going with the sub as a plan B.....


Anything to keep him away from the actual rescue.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 14 July 2018, 08:15:47 pm
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 14 July 2018, 10:31:02 pm

Wealthy white dudes gotta stick together.

I’m pig-sick of the idea that we’re supposed to appeal to the Musks of the world to save us. They don’t give a s***.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 12:23:27 am



Wealthy white dudes gotta stick together.

I’m pig-sick of the idea that we’re supposed to appeal to the Musks of the world to save us. They don’t give a s***.

f*** yes.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:48:01 am
i don't really care about musk either way, just like throwing these things in here 'cause it gets people going :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:46:33 am
The Flint thing by the way is someone asked him if he could do anything to help and he said he'd arrange and pay for water filters to be installed in anyone's home that needs them.

Worra c***.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:59:04 am
The Flint thing by the way is someone asked him if he could do anything to help and he said he'd arrange and pay for water filters to be installed in anyone's home that needs them.

Worra c***.

but he's a billionaire, couldn't he have sorted it all out by now using his space scientists :shifty:

i mean there's only those two problems in the world right?  the thai cave fools and flints water...he could have sorted everything out but chose not to loki, that's the full picture right there
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 08:08:36 am
The space scientists are working on a way to fire whinging c***s into the sun.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 08:12:25 am
The space scientists are working on a way to fire whinging c***s into the sun.
I'm still here.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 08:42:42 am
The space scientists are working on a way to fire whinging c***s into the sun.
I'm still here.

I said they're working on it.

On a side note, it's actually really f***ing hard to get to the sun. It's easier to shoot something out of the solar system than to get anywhere near the sun.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:29:14 am
Elon's class man. I never really thought much of him a while back but when every c*** starts randomly twisting on about someone it's usually a decent sign that they're sound.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:35:03 am
Elon's class man. I never really thought much of him a while back but when every c*** starts randomly twisting on about someone it's usually a decent sign that they're sound.

Aye that'll be right.

Trump is actually the second coming.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:40:49 am
Elon's class man. I never really thought much of him a while back but when every c*** starts randomly twisting on about someone it's usually a decent sign that they're sound.

Aye that'll be right.

Trump is actually the second coming.

He's probably a great bloke.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:47:08 am
Elon’s great.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:56:39 am
But he donated to a GOP candidate. A GOP candidate!

It doesn't matter that he's also donated to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Democratic Midterm Victory Fund etc... he donated to a GOP candidate. His name needs to be relentlessly besmirched for the good of humanity.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 15 July 2018, 12:15:35 pm
His sister is canny also. Good family.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 12:38:33 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 12:56:53 pm
But he donated to a GOP candidate. A GOP candidate!

It doesn't matter that he's also donated to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Democratic Midterm Victory Fund etc... he donated to a GOP candidate. His name needs to be relentlessly besmirched for the good of humanity.

the GOP thing was kind of funny to me, he donated x to a political party but only gave y to this totally unrelated other thing :lol:

might as well have been complaining about Puerto rico or whatever, but then he's probs given them shedloads
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:06:18 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
But even if he was doing it for publicity, he still came up and found another potential viable solution, that was considered a plan B by the person running the whole operation, yes it didn't get used, but if and when something like this happens again in the future then there is an actual solution that can be used at a moments notice. Thats pretty rational isnt it?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:12:42 pm
We’ve essentially outsourced innovation to billionaire playboys. Which is a searing indictment of the system. It’s not Musk’s fault that NASA is a shell of its former self, and he’s free to spend his money as he pleases. But I’m also deeply skeptical of him.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:15:29 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
That's the thing though, it's not a case of pointing out flaws and saying he shouldn't have done this or that, it's an attempt to destroy his name and credibility.
They're doing the same s*** the likes of the Mail do with Corbyn.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:16:08 pm
It couldn't have been used, 54.  Are you just refusing to listen to the guy?  Don't listen to who Musk says was the leader of the group, listen to the actual guy that led every single other person to the missing children. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:17:17 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
That's the thing though, it's not a case of pointing out flaws and saying he shouldn't have done this or that, it's an attempt to destroy his name and credibility.
They're doing the same s*** the likes of the Mail do with Corbyn.

Who is?  As far as I can see we're trying to talk about his cynical approach to the Thai cave problem because the real hero of the group said he was a t***.  We're not talking about his silly cars, or fantastic rockets.  As far as I can see, he's allowed to cynically promote his brand because he fired a rocket into space, there's no balance from his fans.  There probably isn't from his detractors either, but we're neither, here, we're having a discussion and it's quite hilarious watching the excuses being constantly made for him.  One of our own, a Brit, a real hero in this story, is telling him to shove it, and we're like, "but come on, he was just trying to be helpful".  If he was simply trying to be helpful, there'd have been no need to go on Twitter, he could have gone there quietly. 
 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:34:21 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
That's the thing though, it's not a case of pointing out flaws and saying he shouldn't have done this or that, it's an attempt to destroy his name and credibility.
They're doing the same s*** the likes of the Mail do with Corbyn.

Who is?  As far as I can see we're trying to talk about his cynical approach to the Thai cave problem because the real hero of the group said he was a t***.  We're not talking about his silly cars, or fantastic rockets.  As far as I can see, he's allowed to cynically promote his brand because he fired a rocket into space, there's no balance from his fans.  There probably isn't from his detractors either, but we're neither, here, we're having a discussion and it's quite hilarious watching the excuses being constantly made for him.  One of our own, a Brit, a real hero in this story, is telling him to shove it, and we're like, "but come on, he was just trying to be helpful".  If he was simply trying to be helpful, there'd have been no need to go on Twitter, he could have gone there quietly. 
 

Thing is, Bluf, he didn't go to twitter, people went to him on twitter.  If he'd just ignored it all people would be slagging him for that.

For me, yeah, the submarine thing maybe wouldn't have worked but at least he tried to do something.  He doesn't always get it right and sometimes maybe he's a bit eager in his efforts but at least he's trying.

I'd rather have a billionaire who's using his wealth to try and help and advance mankind than some dick that's just trying to make more money for himself and the 1%.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:42:00 pm
That's fair enough to some degree.  But you can still approve of the good things he does whilst wishing he'd f*** off with his unworkable solid, rigid rocket that nobody wanted at the cave (bar one guy, who I personally think was being polite and not telling him to f*** off like his colleague soon did). 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:53:21 pm
We’ve essentially outsourced innovation to billionaire playboys. Which is a searing indictment of the system. It’s not Musk’s fault that NASA is a shell of its former self, and he’s free to spend his money as he pleases. But I’m also deeply skeptical of him.

is this the thing with him, are people hoping he's going to prove not all billionaires are selfish c***s and he's letting them down?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:54:49 pm
FWIW, the Thai government asked Elon to deliver the equipment as it could be useful for future rescue missions, and he gave it to them.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:54:57 pm
Aye, alright, I can see the point there.  Just think the hate for him is a little harsh considering his intentions.

You have any idea how much the Tesla patent portfolio is worth?  He gave it away.  Literally gave it away to try and accelerate electric vehicle adoption to stave off climate change.  He goes over the top sometimes but I believe he genuinely has good intentions beyond just making money in what he does.

edit: @Bluf
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 01:56:42 pm
That's fair enough to some degree.  But you can still approve of the good things he does whilst wishing he'd f*** off with his unworkable solid, rigid rocket that nobody wanted at the cave (bar one guy, who I personally think was being polite and not telling him to f*** off like his colleague soon did). 

reminds me of the chinese guy in the staircase...

"i'm not gonna tell him his rocket submarine is bullshit am i?" :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 02:11:21 pm
You ever read how SpaceX got started?  He actually only wanted three rockets and went to Russia to buy some ICBMs but they took the p*ss and now he's taken their lunch money.

Quote
    They had two more trips scheduled to Russia; now Ressi decided, as he says, "I didn't like dealing with Russians," and told Musk he wasn't going back. Musk went anyway. On the second trip, Musk brought his wife, Justine — "I think that's the trip when the lead Russian designer started spitting at us," Cantrell says — and on the third and final trip he brought his money. He was ready to buy three Russian ICBMs for $21 million when the Russians told him that no, they meant $21 million for one. "They taunted him," Cantrell says. "They said, 'Oh, little boy, you don't have the money?' I said, 'Well, that's that.' I was sitting behind him on the flight back to London when he looked at me over the seat and said,

        'I think we can build a rocket ourselves.'"
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 02:14:53 pm
Don't care about that much, rich c*** backing political c*** shocker.  I do think he was a prick with the cave stuff though, and no one is changing my mind on that.  Vern Unsworth was the leader of the group, it was he who got Richard Stanton over, and you can see the disdain he has for Musk whilst he was actually in there saving lives. 

SpaceX?  Yep, he's great, but let's just accept he was a t*** making the most out of his literally unworkable "back up plan" for the caves.

f***ing hate the lack of rationality.  Doing other cool things doesn't mean he can't be a t*** at times.
That's the thing though, it's not a case of pointing out flaws and saying he shouldn't have done this or that, it's an attempt to destroy his name and credibility.
They're doing the same s*** the likes of the Mail do with Corbyn.

Who is?  As far as I can see we're trying to talk about his cynical approach to the Thai cave problem because the real hero of the group said he was a t***.  We're not talking about his silly cars, or fantastic rockets.  As far as I can see, he's allowed to cynically promote his brand because he fired a rocket into space, there's no balance from his fans.  There probably isn't from his detractors either, but we're neither, here, we're having a discussion and it's quite hilarious watching the excuses being constantly made for him.  One of our own, a Brit, a real hero in this story, is telling him to shove it, and we're like, "but come on, he was just trying to be helpful".  If he was simply trying to be helpful, there'd have been no need to go on Twitter, he could have gone there quietly.
He's getting a lot of negative press at the minute and little things he does are being picked up and woven into the narrative that he's an absolute c***. The GOP thing is a non-story that's been twisted as him being a secret conservative who's hypocritically supporting climate change.

I'm all for criticising things someone has done but not for just flat out twisting anything in an attempt to assassinate someone's character. I mean I'm glad people aren't just running up his arse about this Thai rescue mission, but I don't think it's fair to try and paint it purely as a vanity project instead of something that he probably thought he could help with (and which he might actually be better equipped to help with in the future).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 02:25:41 pm
That's fair enough to some degree.  But you can still approve of the good things he does whilst wishing he'd f*** off with his unworkable solid, rigid rocket that nobody wanted at the cave (bar one guy, who I personally think was being polite and not telling him to f*** off like his colleague soon did). 

reminds me of the chinese guy in the staircase...

"i'm not gonna tell him his rocket submarine is bullshit am i?" :lol:

:lol: :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Sunday 15 July 2018, 03:46:43 pm
He’s just had a total meltdown on Twitter. Nonce status affirmed.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:05:05 pm
He’s just had a total meltdown on Twitter. Nonce status affirmed.

(https://i.imgur.com/jV6oaLB.jpg)

That's a meltdown?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:07:15 pm
Called someone a Paedo
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:07:16 pm
He’s just had a total meltdown on Twitter. Nonce status affirmed.

That's a meltdown?
Check out the replies tab.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:07:27 pm
Probably the one calling the British bloke a pedo. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:07:31 pm
Click 'tweets and replies'. I think he's called the Vurn bloke a paedo :lol:

He's claiming that guy is talking s**** basically, interested to see where this goes like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:08:25 pm
Invalid Tweet ID
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:10:14 pm
Yeah, that's not good :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:10:44 pm
Linkage!?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:10:46 pm
Well that's not great :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:10:53 pm
f***ing hell [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:11:32 pm
Wow, that's bad.  :lol:

4 Navy seals ended out in hospital because they were blown off track by the currents, then lacked the oxygen to stay safe, but aye, could've just sauntered through there.  I know who I believe.

Tell me more about how decent he is, guys. :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:13:08 pm
Says it's sus he lives over there.

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What a nutter.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:14:30 pm
Self-destruction mode from Elon.  What a clown.  Take the jibe on the chin, move on, you're a f***ing billionaire you sad c***.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:15:01 pm
Wow, that's bad.  :lol:

4 Navy seals ended out in hospital because they were blown off track by the currents, then lacked the oxygen to stay safe, but aye, could've just sauntered through there.  I know who I believe.

Tell me more about how decent he is, guys. :thup:

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:16:09 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:18:11 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
Well that's just complete BS. :lol:

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:19:07 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
I mean he is being attacked and called a liar, no one likes that and most people do respond with a modicum of emotion, if he's making things up f*** him but "no better than trump" come on :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:19:27 pm


He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
Well that's just complete BS. [emoji38]

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.

You saying the British diver is a nonce?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:20:06 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
I mean he is being attacked and called a liar, if he's making things up f*** him but "no better than trump" come on :lol:
Exactly this. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:20:10 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
Well that's just complete BS. :lol:

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong.

He just called someone a paedo, aye, ok.  It's just because I don't agree with it. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:21:06 pm
He's literally behaving no better than Trump.  Thin skin, petty, and ultimately, wrong.
I mean he is being attacked and called a liar, no one likes that and most people do respond with a modicum of emotion, if he's making things up f*** him but "no better than trump" come on :lol:

You know exactly what I mean.  But let's get pedantic to save our boy's cred'! :frantic:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: DMC on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:24:04 pm
Someone from his team of advisors needs to grow a set of bollocks and tell him to shut the f*** up.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:27:43 pm
Tbh Bluf, you seem to have a problem with the guy because he has a lot of money.  He made that from scratch beginning by teaching himself programming at like 11 years old. He's spending his money and time trying to make the world a better place and move us forward and although he can f*** up now and again he's doing a pretty good job so far.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:28:21 pm
nah he's literally satan because he doesn't immediately give away all his money to the causes I think he should, as all billionaires are
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:30:58 pm
Tbh Bluf, you seem to have a problem with the guy because he has a lot of money.  He made that from scratch beginning by teaching himself programming at like 11 years old. He's spending his money and time trying to make the world a better place and move us forward and although he can f*** up now and again he's doing a pretty good job so far.

I couldn't care less about his money, you absolute fud. :lol:

I thought we left it at a decent point earlier, then he starts calling c***s paedos.

But yeah, I clearly hate the rich, that's what it is. :mackems:

Any time he does something remotely not great, it's back to "but SpaceX, but mankind, but poor boy made good", it's embarrassing as f*** from posters I hugely respect. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:33:05 pm
Tbf if the bloke is a nonce he should be commended for his commitment to the cause. Risking his life too touch up some football lads in trapped in a cave is really going the extra mile.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:33:11 pm
If it helps I hate him because he's rich and all other rich people too. f*** em, f*** em all.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:34:46 pm
Tbf if the bloke is a nonce he should be commended for his commitment to the cause. Risking his life too touch up some football lads in trapped in a cave is really going the extra mile.

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:35:12 pm
Tbf if the bloke is a nonce he should be commended for his commitment to the cause. Risking his life too touch up some football lads in trapped in a cave is really going the extra mile.

[emoji38]
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:35:38 pm
You keep jumping to auto-defensiveness, loki. You thought you had game, set and match with the "that's a meltdown?", only to be shown that he is indeed having a meltdown.  Perhaps it's yourself that can't see Musk clearly as you've evidently attained a fawning level of admiration for him that your objectivity has gone completely out the window. 

Or I just hate the rich. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:37:01 pm
You cannot be calling a bloke heavily involved with rescuing bairns from death a paedo on Twitter like :lol: Even if the bloke was being unnecessarily harsh in his comments (maybe he was maybe he wasn't) there's absolutely no call for that :lol:

So aye, he's acted like a bit of c*** here, not really sure what I'm meant to do? Retract any other comment I've made about people going overboard in their efforts to ruin his name? Join the anti-Elon brigade?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:39:44 pm
No, nothing, just don't pretend it's cool, or understandable or start waffling on about his past life as it has anything with this. 

I can throw that right back at you.  Am I just meant to ignore him being a c*** because he does some cool things elsewhere?  No.  We're just discussing his being a t*** in this moment.  Big deal, we'll survive, no one is asking for his assassination, or that he hand over his money.  We're just calling him out for being a t***, and he was. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:40:37 pm
Tbh Bluf, you seem to have a problem with the guy because he has a lot of money.  He made that from scratch beginning by teaching himself programming at like 11 years old. He's spending his money and time trying to make the world a better place and move us forward and although he can f*** up now and again he's doing a pretty good job so far.

I couldn't care less about his money, you absolute fud. :lol:

I thought we left it at a decent point earlier, then he starts calling c***s paedos.

But yeah, I clearly hate the rich, that's what it is. :mackems:

Any time he does something remotely not great, it's back to "but SpaceX, but mankind, but poor boy made good", it's embarrassing as f*** from posters I hugely respect. 

Nah, man, it's just you keep saying billionaire like it's some kind of pejorative.  The dude made a lot of money and look what he's trying to do with it.

Help get us off fossil fuels by accelerating electric vehicle adoption
Opening up every invention related to electric vehicles to the world for free
Promoting and helping the adoption of renewable energy sources
Making f***ing rockets that can land
Deploying a constellation of satellites so literally the entire world can have internet access

s***, if I had his money I don't think i'd do much different.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:43:58 pm
No, nothing, just don't pretend it's cool, or understandable or start waffling on about his past life as it has anything with this. 

I can throw that right back at you.  Am I just meant to ignore him being a c*** because he does some cool things elsewhere?  No.  We're just discussing his being a t*** in this moment.  Big deal, we'll survive, no one is asking for his assassination, or that he hand over his money.  We're just calling him out for being a t***, and he was. 

Went for a cig and there was about 10 posts :lol:

Calling the guy a paedo was obviously stupid.  I'm just saying don't dismiss the good s*** Musk is doing because of some of the stupid s*** he does,
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:44:28 pm
Anyway, I do not care.  I really don't care that he's called someone a paedo either, but it does say much about his character, for me.  That's the end of it, I won't dare come in again, what a farce. :lol:

EDIT:  Just seen the last post.  No, I won't forget the cool s***.  I very much enjoyed watching Starman, I have nothing in this game other than wanting to annoy a few fans. :aww:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:47:10 pm
I still love you Bluf :D
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:50:42 pm
:smitten:

Half of all this is pure WUM stuff, for the record. :angel:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: 54 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:53:40 pm
:smitten:

Half of all this is pure WUM stuff, for the record. :angel:
Am I allowed to call you a dick? :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 04:57:13 pm
Of course. :aww:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 05:28:42 pm
is it wrong to hate horribly rich c***s now like?  then i don't wanna be right
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 05:32:25 pm
is it wrong to hate horribly rich c***s now like?  then i don't wanna be right
  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180715/4afac66d8aa610a7d06a8ab136226d08.gif)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:09:11 pm
Did he not just misspell pedalo?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:11:29 pm
Did he not just misspell pedalo?

No, he later backed it up.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:14:27 pm
Did he not just misspell pedalo?

No, he later backed it up.

OK. Just I knew somebody once, who said they ere a diving instructor, and when we turned up it turned out he just hired out pedalos. Thought maybe it was the same guy.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:15:26 pm
"pedo guy" :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:18:47 pm
Invalid Tweet ID
Wew.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:19:16 pm
:lol: f***ing rattled
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:19:22 pm
PR disaster
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:22:53 pm
Someone's getting sued then.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:26:00 pm
That British diver guy better be a provable "pedo" or Elon Musk has just got himself a lawsuit.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:34:12 pm
I've always been struck by the "they live in Thailand, must be a paedo" thing.  My old man used to say it, then of course Gary Glitter made it his home. :lol:

Imagine, just imagine, Elon ends out being right. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:35:07 pm
I've always been struck by the "they live in Thailand, must be a paedo" thing.  My old man used to say it, then of course Gary Glitter made it his home. [emoji38]

Imagine, just imagine, Elon ends out being right. [emoji38]
Could just as easy be lady boys. Can't rush to snap conclusions.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:35:32 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:36:20 pm
FWIW, I also think most 50+ men moving to Thailand are absolute pedos. But that's because it's always on the news when they arrest the f***ers. I'm sure there's many non-pedos there, but you don't hear about them on the news :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:36:26 pm
I've always been struck by the "they live in Thailand, must be a paedo" thing.  My old man used to say it, then of course Gary Glitter made it his home. :lol:

Imagine, just imagine, Elon ends out being right. :lol:

Did see a lot of old British blokes with young Thai lasses when I was over there, obviously can't go round saying things like Musky has though :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:39:54 pm
Maybe this is Elon's big get out of jail card here, that the rocket device he sent over wasn't to save them from suffocating in a cave, but to propel them away from nonces trying to capture them.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Sunday 15 July 2018, 06:42:25 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiKPXBxUcAE6x7d.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:05:10 pm
I've always been struck by the "they live in Thailand, must be a paedo" thing.  My old man used to say it, then of course Gary Glitter made it his home. [emoji38]

Imagine, just imagine, Elon ends out being right. [emoji38]
Could just as easy be lady boys. Can't rush to snap conclusions.

he'll have had a team working up a dossier on the bloke the moment he chelped about musk, uncovering darkest secrets and s***
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ElDiablo on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:06:01 pm
Interested to see how they weave this segment into the film. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:08:19 pm
I've always been struck by the "they live in Thailand, must be a paedo" thing.  My old man used to say it, then of course Gary Glitter made it his home. :lol:

Imagine, just imagine, Elon ends out being right. :lol:

Did see a lot of old British blokes with young Thai lasses when I was over there, obviously can't go round saying things like Musky has though :lol:

it's as depressing as f*** thailand for that like, horrible s*** to see
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 15 July 2018, 07:28:04 pm
Maybe this is Elon's big get out of jail card here, that the rocket device he sent over wasn't to save them from suffocating in a cave, but to propel them away from nonces trying to capture them.

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 09:54:25 pm
Seems he's deleted those tweets :lol:

Probably got a pretty strong phone call.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 09:55:07 pm
Wow, that's bad.  :lol:

4 Navy seals ended out in hospital because they were blown off track by the currents, then lacked the oxygen to stay safe, but aye, could've just sauntered through there.  I know who I believe.

Tell me more about how decent he is, guys. :thup:

What's with these repetitive digs at posters, Bluf? I (for example) said one positive thing about him (and didn't dig at anyone) and you've been wound up since. You've went on more about him than anyone else. Clearly you care more than most of us casual observers.

Elon and Bluf, sitting in a tree, K, I...

:lol:

Nice try. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 10:22:46 pm
O0

Gutted he's taken them down.  I'd almost gotten into the position of wanting him to try and prove it. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 15 July 2018, 10:49:08 pm
Too late now surely? He posted it and loads of people commented on it. He can't unsay it by deleting the tweet.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 15 July 2018, 10:54:15 pm
Guardian and others running with it now.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:03:51 pm
It was on the Indy site ages ago, so it's 'out there'.  But basic libel threat starts with take the original comment down, no?  Can imagine a formulaic apology to follow tomorrow? :dontknow:

EDIT:  FAO - POOT

(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/07/15/21/pedo-3.jpg)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-british-diver-vern-unsworth-twitter-pedo-a8448366.html
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:08:49 pm
It was on the Indy site ages ago, so it's 'out there'.  But basic libel threat starts with take the original comment down, no?  Can imagine a formulaic apology to follow tomorrow? :dontknow:

EDIT:  FAO - POOT

(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2018/07/15/21/pedo-3.jpg)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-british-diver-vern-unsworth-twitter-pedo-a8448366.html
Aye he'll not be taking it down to try and hide it, it'll be because it looks a lot better than leaving it up (and like you say might be part of an official process). Like you say he'll probably apologise tomorrow after being in talks with his solicitors or whoever.

Still creased at him calling the bloke a nonce though, f***ing hell man :lol: He has like 20m followers too.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:23:17 pm
What a pillock he is :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:24:09 pm
The guy was a cave explorer who knew the caves and was involved in getting British experts in to help I think. He said Musk's plan wouldn't have worked and told him to shove his submarine where it hurts. Musk responded by calling him a toucher :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:24:44 pm
From top-to-bottom for the tweets. 

The guy is a diver, rescuer, and had told Musk to shove his rocket up his arse.  Essentially. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thai-cave-rescue-elon-musk-mini-submarine-british-driver-tham-luang-vern-unsworth-a8447166.html

It probably wasn't entirely necessary, but can imagine being asked about it getting annoying.  He was basically the one that led the way from what I can tell. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Sunday 15 July 2018, 11:33:55 pm
:thup: Got it :thup:

It reads like he's suggesting he's going to go to the cave and film his pod despite it all being over :lol: :idiot2: :lol:

He set up a gofundme to put the kids back in the gave so he can rescue them with his rocket.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 16 July 2018, 12:02:50 am
:thup: Got it :thup:

It reads like he's suggesting he's going to go to the cave and film his pod despite it all being over :lol: :idiot2: :lol:

He set up a gofundme to put the kids back in the gave so he can rescue them with his rocket.

I genuinely want a journalist to believe that, it would be amazing scenes :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jaqen on Monday 16 July 2018, 12:51:59 am
It’s an incredible tweet really :lol: Not only accusing the hero who saved the team but managing to have a pop at the whole of Thailand too by suggesting the only reason a white man would want to live there is to nonce on their kids.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 16 July 2018, 12:57:13 am
the only reason a white man would want to live there is to nonce on their kids.

What other reason is there? Other than nicking themselves a local who wants to feed her family.

I have horrible preconceptions about old/middle aged men moving to Thailand. I challenge anyone to debunk these views.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 16 July 2018, 01:47:10 am
Could also be the low cost of living, relative security/stability, great weather, excellent cuisine, and breathtaking scenery.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 16 July 2018, 01:59:41 am
nah, it's the sexy kids
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:05:51 am
Could also be the low cost of living, relative security/stability, great weather, excellent cuisine, and breathtaking scenery.

:lol: Thailand has a pretty set reputation.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:15:17 am
Could also be the low cost of living, relative security/stability, great weather, excellent cuisine, and breathtaking scenery.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/08/article-0-13F8DB20000005DC-494_964x642.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:19:07 am
Least we know it's him on his Twitter and not some random PR dick.

He's f***ed up a bit here but f*** it, I still love the guy.  At least he's real.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:23:04 am
Could also be the low cost of living, relative security/stability, great weather, excellent cuisine, and breathtaking scenery.

(https://i.giphy.com/media/qAfSEmVQMynoA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:27:56 am
Could also be the low cost of living, relative security/stability, great weather, excellent cuisine, and breathtaking scenery.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/08/article-0-13F8DB20000005DC-494_964x642.jpg)

:lol: jesus
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:32:44 am
:lol: I don't say this to brag, but I feel like I could beat up most kids. That kid would absolutely murder me.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:47:34 am
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:47:47 am
:lol: Wouldn't dare guess what Quakes had to type into google to get that picture, like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:48:57 am
:lol: I don't say this to brag, but I feel like I could beat up most kids. That kid would absolutely murder me.

At least you have the sense to go for easier prey.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:49:50 am
:lol: I don't say this to brag, but I feel like I could beat up most kids. That kid would absolutely murder me.

At least you have the sense to go for easier prey.

:lol: This is currently the Thailand thread so I'm not going to call myself a predator.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 16 July 2018, 02:49:52 am
:lol: Wouldn't dare guess what Quakes had to type into google to get that picture, like.

Didn't have to. Bookmarks, some technology.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:00:56 am
:lol: I don't say this to brag, but I feel like I could beat up most kids. That kid would absolutely murder me.

At least you have the sense to go for easier prey.

:lol: This is currently the Thailand thread so I'm not going to call myself a predator.

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:15:14 am
:lol: Wouldn't dare guess what Quakes had to type into google to get that picture, like.

Didn't have to. Bookmarks, some technology.
(https://i.imgur.com/WmcKg9U.png)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:16:09 am
:lol: I don't want to be in that post.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:28:12 am
Jesus, thomas. Now some serious questions are being raised. Were you doing some Pete Townsend style research?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:34:43 am
The implication is it was his bookmarks folder goddamnit
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:46:09 am
I took thomas to be into a lot of weird thing, but pedophilia was far down the list.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 03:55:57 am
The implication is it was his bookmarks folder goddamnit

:lol: That'll fly at the trial.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 16 July 2018, 04:17:20 am
I took thomas to be into a lot of weird thing, but pedophilia was far down the list.

the list was cut off at crying, so you're probably right.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 16 July 2018, 08:44:27 am
[emoji38] Wouldn't dare guess what Quakes had to type into google to get that picture, like.

Didn't have to. Bookmarks, some technology.
(https://i.imgur.com/WmcKg9U.png)
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 16 July 2018, 09:01:54 am
not kids :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 16 July 2018, 09:13:50 am
Least we know it's him on his Twitter and not some random PR dick.

He's f***ed up a bit here but f*** it, I still love the guy.  At least he's real.
If anything I think more of him :lol:

That tweet was f***ing outstanding. Just went completely off the rails.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 16 July 2018, 09:15:14 am
Least we know it's him on his Twitter and not some random PR dick.

He's f***ed up a bit here but f*** it, I still love the guy.  At least he's real.
If anything I think more of him :lol:

That tweet was f***ing outstanding. Just went completely off the rails.

same, glorious stuff
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 16 July 2018, 09:18:16 am
Thomas :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:59:59 am
:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Anderson on Monday 16 July 2018, 06:06:51 pm
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 16 July 2018, 07:34:46 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 16 July 2018, 07:52:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/pvsCmf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 16 July 2018, 08:03:58 pm
Elon Musk sounds like a deodorant for Scientolgists. ‬
Elon Musk :spray: because you are definitely not a Paedo.

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 16 July 2018, 08:44:02 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/pvsCmf4.jpg)
:lol: this has legs
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 16 July 2018, 09:30:32 pm


[emoji38]

Has he gone radio silent? [emoji38]



He's silent running the paedo is dropping depth charges.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:28:43 pm
:lol:

Has he gone radio silent? :lol:

Seems potential for a media storm but the insulted dude has also gone quiet :shifty:

No he hasn't: -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44846945

I don't get the joke. Calling someone a pedophile is one of the worst things you can call someone. If the guy actually was a pedophile it would be far from funny too.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:31:06 pm
He looks a bit like Pete Thownsend, like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:33:17 pm
He looks a bit like Pete Thownsend, like.
A sadnesstan post, I won't get fooled again.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:33:19 pm
Aye it's c*** behaviour. Smacks of an ego being hurt and lashing out like a child. I've read the divers comments that are little brusque but at the end of the day he's just been part of saving lives and doesn't need telling that.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 16 July 2018, 10:41:10 pm
This article came before Musk's meltdown but it still raises relevant points: -

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/opinion/sunday/elon-musk-thailand-hubris.html

Quote
What Elon Musk Should Learn From the Thailand Cave Rescue
By Zeynep Tufekci
Dr. Tufekci is a professor who writes about the social impact of technology.
July 14, 2018

Silicon Valley moguls seem to believe they can fix most anything, and they appear befuddled when their attempts to do so aren’t met with unbridled enthusiasm.

The tech billionaire Elon Musk was among the millions of people captivated by the plight of the 12 boys and their soccer coach recently trapped in a cave in Thailand. But Mr. Musk didn’t just follow the story on the news and social media; he has vast resources, so he also tried to help.

He directed his engineers to build a miniature “submarine” (basically a sophisticated metal cylinder) that he hoped could be used for the rescue. He shared videos of the submarine with his 22 million followers on Twitter. And he received widespread media coverage and encouragement from his many fans.

Mr. Musk’s desire to help was commendable. But when the head of the rescue operation, Narongsak Osottanakorn, declared that Mr. Musk’s contraption was impractical for the task at hand — a task that had been completed, at that point, by some of the world’s top cave divers — Mr. Musk responded with irritation. He insisted on Twitter that leaders of the operation had in fact welcomed his assistance and that Mr. Narongsak was not the “subject matter expert.” He also expressed frustration that he was being criticized while trying to help.

Instead of venting, Mr. Musk — indeed, Silicon Valley as a whole — can perhaps see the Thai operation as a lesson. This was a most improbable rescue against the longest odds. Safely navigating 12 kids and one adult, many of whom were not swimmers, through a dangerous cave relied on a model of innovation that Silicon Valley can and should learn from.

The Silicon Valley model for doing things is a mix of can-do optimism, a faith that expertise in one domain can be transferred seamlessly to another and a preference for rapid, flashy, high-profile action. But what got the kids and their coach out of the cave was a different model: a slower, more methodical, more narrowly specialized approach to problems, one that has turned many risky enterprises into safe endeavors — commercial airline travel, for example, or rock climbing, both of which have extensive protocols and safety procedures that have taken years to develop.

This “safety culture” model is neither stilted nor uncreative. On the contrary, deep expertise, lengthy training and the ability to learn from experience (and to incorporate the lessons of those experiences into future practices) is a valuable form of ingenuity.

This approach is what allowed the airline captain Chesley Sullenberger to safely land a commercial airplane on the Hudson River in 2009 after its engines were disabled. Captain Sullenberger’s skill and composure were, of course, a credit to him personally. But they also rested on decades of training and learning in an industry that had been government-regulated and self-regulated to such a degree that hurling through the atmosphere in giant metal cans at 35,000 feet is now one of the safest ways to travel.

By contrast, Silicon Valley moguls seem to favor spending money on improbable but impressive-sounding long shots. In 2010, Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Facebook, donated $100 million to New Jersey schools as part of a multiyear plan to improve them. The centerpiece of the plan was teacher evaluation and charter schools, but it didn’t work well. Some aspects of the plan even made things worse. Education is a complex topic, and making a lot of money in tech is not a qualification for solving educational problems.

Silicon Valley also tends to ignore problems in its own house. Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, has declared that space exploration is one of the main things he should spend his money on. But poorly paid workers in Amazon warehouses, who work under grueling conditions, may have other ideas about how Mr. Bezos might best spend his money.

In the case of Mr. Musk and his submarine, the Thai authorities understood that they needed to let the expert cave divers plan and direct the rescue operation (and Mr. Musk, to his credit, said he would take the lead from the divers). But the kind of publicity Mr. Musk created can take on a life of its own and exert undue influence.

I don’t mean to dismiss the role of technological innovation. Maybe in the future, some version of Mr. Musk’s contraption could be useful. But that would require long-term development, testing and collaboration with a variety of experts — not just a handful of Mr. Musk’s engineers.

If Silicon Valley wants to help the world, there is a lot it can do, starting with making its own products safer and its own companies more just. Perhaps most important, it can develop respect for hard-earned expertise in areas other than its own.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:48:57 am
If he invents self driving vans, I’d hail him f***ing god himself. Never mind messing with stuff to save people trapped in caves, make f***ing vans that can drive themselves, won’t crash and don’t cost the earth to fill up.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:45:31 am
not sure how high on his agenda that is, give him a shout on twitter about it mate he seems pretty responsive atm

oh wait 240 characters
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:56:27 am
I guess he didn't manage to unearth any evidence as he's issued an apology
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44870303
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:59:52 am
Reckon it'll come out he's the one who's actually a nonce. Clues are all there. Mad into science, daft name, South African, total freak, absolute weirdo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:32:25 am
Talulah Riley looked about 15 ten years ago as well.  Case closed imo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 11:01:37 am
Got worked up because the diver called him a submarine nonce. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:11:26 pm
Soyboy hero.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:15:42 pm
thai cave dweller press conf, pls one of them say musk touched iz
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:16:48 pm
thai cave dweller press conf, pls one of them say musk touched iz

Or the diver did.  Scenes.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:17:24 pm
thai cave dweller press conf, pls one of them say musk touched iz

Or the diver did.  Scenes.

fuuuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 12:17:36 pm
Few thousand Tesla owners in Germany have to pay their subsidy back due to EV rule breaking or something.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-18/german-tesla-drivers-told-to-return-4-650-electric-subsidy
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:16:31 pm
Would anyone accept just a "sorry" from Elon Musk if he'd wrongly accused you of being a "pedo" to the world?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:19:51 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: it's such a go to around here (nonce, admittedly, a little different in tone) that I hardly blinked tbh
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:23:20 pm
It'll be canny ironic if he sues for millions and blows the lot on young boys.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:29:07 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: it's such a go to around here (nonce, admittedly, a little different in tone) that I hardly blinked tbh

That's true. I've worked with people who think it's funny to call each other pedo or nonce. I can't imagine how hearing that sort of thing is for someone who has been molested. It's all a big joke apparently.

As for falsely calling someone "pedo" via social media, I don't know the laws around it but I imagine legally you'd be in big trouble.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:06:37 pm
It'll be canny ironic if he sues for millions and blows the lot on young boys.

:lol: Wow
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:12:26 pm
It's an old white dude living in Thailand. No way he's not a pedo or a full time alcoholic - most likely a combination of both.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:21:14 pm
It'll be canny ironic if he sues for millions and blows the lot on young boys.

:lol:

It's an old white dude living in Thailand. No way he's not a pedo or a full time alcoholic - most likely a combination of both.

Fancy buying a football team, Elon?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:33:53 pm


It'll be canny ironic if he sues for millions and blows the lot on young boys.

[emoji38]

It's an old white dude living in Thailand. No way he's not a pedo or a full time alcoholic - most likely a combination of both.

Fancy buying a football team, Elon?

Young Boys?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:35:27 pm
:lol: well that worked out perfectly
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:41:29 pm
Team work [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Thursday 19 July 2018, 01:52:42 am
It'll be canny ironic if he sues for millions and blows the lot on young boys.

:lol:

It's an old white dude living in Thailand. No way he's not a pedo or a full time alcoholic - most likely a combination of both.

Fancy buying a football team, Elon?

Kaiz has got a point, though. He's an ex-pat living in Thailand. Are we actually pretending there's not, like, a 95% chance he moved there to f*** children?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 19 July 2018, 01:59:36 am
Could be there for research purposes on banks funding a giant child sex ring out of Bangkok and Chiang Mai. Worked for Pete Townsend.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 19 July 2018, 02:31:40 am
This is exactly why he should take Musk to the cleaners. :lol:

He's a professional caver (whatever the f*** that really is), and that part of the world has some of the best and more complex caves.  It could really be that simple, guys. :thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 19 July 2018, 02:56:51 am
This is exactly why he should take Musk to the cleaners. :lol:

Don’t encourage the man, we don’t need more pedo millionares :frantic:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:14:57 am
We don't need to know the way home.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:16:29 am
This is exactly why he should take Musk to the cleaners. :lol:

He's a professional caver (whatever the f*** that really is), and that part of the world has some of the best and more complex caves.  It could really be that simple, guys. :thup:
Boy caves aye
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:22:17 am
'Something about Musk's stiff rigid missile not getting the job done'

This diver must have thumbed it in.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Parky on Monday 20 August 2018, 03:29:10 pm
It begins.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 12:09:37 am
Getting stuck in to that cave diver again.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 12:10:58 am
Mental.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 09:53:45 am
:lol: nonce craic was one of this years highlights, I hope for more.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 10:39:55 am
Elon Musk calls Thailand diver 'child rapist' in latest baseless attack

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/sep/04/elon-musk-claims-diver-in-thai-cave-rescue-is-child-rapist-without-evidence?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

He's unhinged, should be a decent wedge of compo though.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 10:48:59 am
Elon needs to cut back on his 120 hour working week. He needs to get some sleep. The Tesla board and investors will be livid over his latest outburst.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:06:38 am
Elon needs to cut back on his 120 hour working week. He needs to get some sleep. The Tesla board and investors will be livid over his latest outburst.
Parklife.


Sorry had it stuck in my head since yesterday  [emoji38]

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:13:09 am
Elon Musk calls Thailand diver 'child rapist' in latest baseless attack

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/sep/04/elon-musk-claims-diver-in-thai-cave-rescue-is-child-rapist-without-evidence?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

He's unhinged, should be a decent wedge of compo though.

He seems pretty convinced that he's a paedophile based on him living in an area that's renowned for child sex trafficking. If that's genuinely all his accusation is based on then he's a complete f***ing prick like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:16:09 am
He's really gone off the rails these last few months like. I didn't bear any ill will to him and liked the ideas behind his progressive use of his billions, but f*** me...he's making a total prick of himself these days.

Seems very entitled, basically calling a guy a paedo cos he didn't get to help save some kids.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:18:00 am
If Elon's accusation was based on evidence surely he'd have handed the evidence over to the relevant authorities (or media).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:23:00 am

f***ing hell. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 12:37:59 pm
Some of the comments are scary. Some people are saying the cave diver has to prove he isn't a pedo (rather than Musk proving his claims). They are also upset that a journalist has published emails which Musk asked to be 'off the record' (even though the journalist didn't agree to that). A guy going up against a multi billionaire with legions of fans/followers. What a time to be alive.

Even if the guy was a pedo (which I obviously hope he isn't), Musk's approach would be totally wrong. Report it to the authorities. Musk's done the equivalent of forming a torch wielding mob based on a presumption that a Westerner who visits Thailand must be a pedo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 12:48:56 pm
Not me. Run of the mill bot a ladyboy for ol DC.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:19:50 pm
Some of the comments are scary. Some people are saying the cave diver has to prove he isn't a pedo (rather than Musk proving his claims). They are also upset that a journalist has published emails which Musk asked to be 'off the record' (even though the journalist didn't agree to that). A guy going up against a multi billionaire with legions of fans/followers. What a time to be alive.

Even if the guy was a pedo (which I obviously hope he isn't), Musk's approach would be totally wrong. Report it to the authorities. Musk's done the equivalent of forming a torch wielding mob based on a presumption that a Westerner who visits Thailand must be a pedo.

:thup:

This is it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:20:52 pm
I like how this is basically just #metoo but with the left and right unknowingly switching sides :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:21:59 pm
He has to be inhaling bags of coke though.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:28:41 pm
He has to be inhaling bags of coke though.

He was complaining about mental health issues last month, which I have all the time for in the world.  But it's not an excuse for reckless cuntery. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:31:48 pm
does him losing his f***ing mind tie into him starting to knock about with that pretty musician lass by any chance?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: James on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:36:00 pm
Musk will be dead or in jail within 5 years imo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 01:48:23 pm
 :lol: Dude's on some serious Howard Hughes s***.

https://youtu.be/067ZRcsrdeM
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 05:49:50 pm
He has to be inhaling bags of coke though.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 05:54:14 pm
You would though tbf. Most of us would lose at least a year with that amount of money.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 05:55:50 pm
My nose would just be my visible skull if I had his cash.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 05:57:53 pm
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 06:00:05 pm
Paedo.

That's 2 hours saved.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 06:01:24 pm
My nose would just be my visible skull if I had his cash.

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:12:19 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmR3M5rV4AAVN6v.jpg)

Looking at the size of the black box, his e-mail is certainly "elon@tesla.com" :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:18:49 pm
Found the uncensored version, surprising but each to their own I guess.

(https://i.imgur.com/HsfEABS.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:21:02 pm
:lol: f***'s sake.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:22:04 pm
You using that as an insult says more about you than anything else, there's nothing wrong with being gay.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:23:37 pm
The ridiculousness of using it was part of the fun man, I'm no homophobe, that's Elon.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:24:25 pm
The ridiculousness of using it was part of the fun man, I'm no homophobe, that's Elon.

:lol: Nonce was the play, tbh.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:24:58 pm
Mike's on the ball.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:25:33 pm
Where as you're just groping them.

(sorry Kaizero, I've had my fun)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 07:27:08 pm
Better.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 08:27:21 pm
Musk will be dead or in jail within 5 years imo.

Or hiding out in a volcano lair, tweeting that James Bond is a nonce.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 09:52:21 pm
Rogan to calm him down with a massive creamy bucket.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:26:57 pm
Rogan to calm him down with a massive creamy bucket.

StompX
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 5 September 2018, 11:34:15 pm
Musk will be dead or in jail within 5 years imo.

Or hiding out in a volcano lair, tweeting that James Bond is a nonce.

'The names Nonce, Caves Nonce.'
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Friday 7 September 2018, 08:59:26 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI

Some broken clips on here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxGkOGNMqQEUMvroOWps6Q
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Astroblack on Friday 7 September 2018, 09:09:22 am
Thought it was interesting when he said we're basically cyborgs. I hadn't thought of it that way.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: summerof69 on Friday 7 September 2018, 12:59:31 pm
Seems quite unhappy there
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Friday 7 September 2018, 01:04:09 pm
Surprised to hear a fair amount of pessimism coming from him in this interview, although he does acknowledge someway in that he'd rather be optimistic & wrong than pessimistic & right. He's a interesting guy, obviously incredibly intelligent yet doesn't really come across as it in his general conversing, which I really like tbh.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: pbxtn on Friday 7 September 2018, 03:02:26 pm
Just finished watching the Joe Rogan thing, enjoyed it.

Twitter is being typically Twitter about him smoking weed in the interview I see  :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: biggs on Sunday 9 September 2018, 07:10:36 pm
Must be pretty sure that bloke is a kiddie fiddler mind to say that and if the bloke doesnt take legal action wonder if there is something in it  :kasper:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Sunday 9 September 2018, 07:11:36 pm
Must be pretty sure that bloke is a kiddie fiddler mind to say that and if the bloke doesnt take legal action wonder if there is something in it  :kasper:
Or he's mental.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: biggs on Sunday 9 September 2018, 07:12:10 pm
Must be pretty sure that bloke is a kiddie fiddler mind to say that and if the bloke doesnt take legal action wonder if there is something in it  :kasper:
Or he's mental.
yeah possibly
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Sunday 9 September 2018, 08:13:36 pm
I still say it's like 95% that he's right about cave dude being a kiddy-f***er. Middle age white dudes don't move to Thailand for any other reason.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 9 September 2018, 08:47:23 pm
I still say it's like 95% that he's right about cave dude being a kiddy-f***er. Middle age white dudes don't move to Thailand for any other reason.

Surely it's more than 5% that move there to get Thai women of legal age?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 9 September 2018, 08:56:19 pm
While I'm not saying Musk isn't losing it in general, I'm 100% with him on that guy being a kiddie fiddler.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 10 September 2018, 09:19:56 am
I still say it's like 95% that he's right about cave dude being a kiddy-f***er. Middle age white dudes don't move to Thailand for any other reason.

Surely it's more than 5% that move there to get Thai women of legal age?

when i was there, which was over 20 years ago granted...on the whole the old white guy thing seemed less about f***ing bairns than it did about fat, divorced guys getting to shag women miles out of their league because they could pay for it

granted i didn't do a proper analysis of the situation
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 10 September 2018, 12:27:59 pm
Do people not also just move there because it's an absolutely beautiful area of the world? :lol: I'd choose it over the South of France or Spain if I was emigrating like, it seems daft to just label anyone that moves there a nonce. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Monday 10 September 2018, 01:08:27 pm
Yep I'm with KI on this one. I would absolutely consider there if I was moving to a new country, and I'm no nonc... oh wait...

(it's a joke)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 10 September 2018, 01:18:19 pm
yeah there's that as well, it's relatively cheap to have a great lifestyle over there so there's loads living a good life in the sun...with the added advantage it'll be p*ss easy to rattle bairns if it takes their fancy
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Monday 10 September 2018, 01:18:57 pm
Rattle bairns :lol: f***ing hell
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 10 September 2018, 01:35:12 pm
I still say it's like 95% that he's right about cave dude being a kiddy-f***er. Middle age white dudes don't move to Thailand for any other reason.

Surely it's more than 5% that move there to get Thai women of legal age?

when i was there, which was over 20 years ago granted...on the whole the old white guy thing seemed less about f***ing bairns than it did about fat, divorced guys getting to shag women miles out of their league because they could pay for it

granted i didn't do a proper analysis of the situation

I was there in March this year,  few days at the beginning then end my trip, was similar.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Monday 10 September 2018, 01:47:21 pm
Rattle bairns :lol: f***ing hell

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Monday 10 September 2018, 05:54:18 pm
I'll admit my perception is based wholly on uninformed stereotypes, but, as an American, my uninformed stereotypes are backed by the awesome twin powers of Jesus and Freedom, so... Thailand is 100% nonces. Fact.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Monday 10 September 2018, 06:30:38 pm
yeah there's that as well, it's relatively cheap to have a great lifestyle over there so there's loads living a good life in the sun...with the added advantage it'll be p*ss easy to rattle bairns if it takes their fancy
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: wormy on Monday 10 September 2018, 06:51:18 pm
:lol: This is all news to me. Never been myself but I genuinely never knew Thailand had such a kid diddlin' rep. I would've guessed ladyboys ahead of it as far as stereotypical reasons to move there.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 10 September 2018, 06:54:16 pm
:lol: This is all news to me. Never been myself but I genuinely never knew Thailand had such a kid diddlin' rep. I would've guessed ladyboys ahead of it as far as stereotypical reasons to move there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_prostitution_in_Thailand
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 10 September 2018, 06:55:28 pm
Was tempted to edit in "Known nonces in Thailand" and throw that guy in with the source being an article about the Musk tweet :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: wormy on Monday 10 September 2018, 06:57:09 pm
Damn. I knew there were other southeast Asian places that were a bit of a 'hub' but Thailand's notoriety had escaped me.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 10 September 2018, 07:03:06 pm
Not sure if they do it anymore after it came out in the news, but Norwegian police put you on a watch list if you're a 30+ man going to Thailand alone. They collaborated with Thai police and took down around 20-30 nonces that way.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 10 September 2018, 08:07:55 pm
I'll admit my perception is based wholly on uninformed stereotypes, but, as an American, my uninformed stereotypes are backed by the awesome twin powers of Jesus and Freedom, so... Thailand is 100% nonces. Fact.

one of the most disturbing things i've seen in public over there was a massive pair of fat lads, disability scooter types, and a father and son combo no less pawing at every f***ing lass that walked past them in the bar and sitting with them on their knees etc. :anguish:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 10 September 2018, 08:47:00 pm
never really fancied thailand until now
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Monday 10 September 2018, 10:52:25 pm
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 10 September 2018, 10:54:53 pm
never really fancied thailand until now

(https://static.spin.com/files/2018/09/elon-musk-joe-rogan-blunt-1536341297-640x428.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 11 September 2018, 01:40:46 am
yeah there's that as well, it's relatively cheap to have a great lifestyle over there so there's loads living a good life in the sun...with the added advantage it'll be p*ss easy to rattle bairns if it takes their fancy
[emoji38]

:lol: f***ing hell
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 11 September 2018, 05:18:30 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPr5-27vSI

Some broken clips on here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnxGkOGNMqQEUMvroOWps6Q

Cheers for posting. I've never seen him talk live before. Reminded me of a mix of Zuckerberg, Stephen Hawkin crossed with Freddie Mercury's gnashers.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 11 September 2018, 08:01:49 pm
Reminded me of a sixth former, during revision periods.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Monday 17 September 2018, 08:25:17 pm
Aye so he's being sued now.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 17 September 2018, 08:52:46 pm
nice of the mail to report the guy's name accurately

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 17 September 2018, 08:53:53 pm
Thought it must have been the Daily Star at first glance.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 17 September 2018, 08:54:54 pm
The shocked headline also makes it look the Mail are convinced he actually is a paedo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Monday 17 September 2018, 09:36:23 pm
Can't wait for it to be proven the middle aged white dude moving to Thailand is a paedo in a court of law.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Monday 17 September 2018, 09:43:43 pm
nice of the mail to report the guy's name accurately


Sounds like a Jim Carrey sequel.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Decky on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 07:39:25 am
Sending a load of artists to Lunar orbit in 2023.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Sima on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:07:47 am
Sending a load of artists to Lunar orbit in 2023.

Any nonces gan’ up?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:27:21 am
That headline backs up the guys claim.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:18:10 pm
Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:19:04 pm
that nonce totally hit the jackpot like
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:22:36 pm
Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:34:15 pm
Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:35:03 pm
I just feel bad for all the underage Thai prostitutes that the cave nonce has now murdered in order to cover his tracks before filing the suit.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:37:14 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:40:22 pm
Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.
Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

A good example of the character damage done to this guy by Musk's comments. Elon Musk fans assume Elon must be right.

It's all a big joke to some people. Imagine if a mega rich, famous person with thousands of followers decided to accuse you of being a pedophile on Twitter because you dared to say something negative about them.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:44:25 pm
Elon Musk is the African-American of their patriotic dreams.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:44:49 pm
Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.
Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

A good example of the character damage done to this guy by Musk's comments. Elon Musk fans assume Elon must be right.

It's all a big joke to some people. Imagine if a mega rich, famous person with thousands of followers decided to accuse you of being a pedophile on Twitter because you dared to say something negative about them.

He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:50:08 pm
Well aye it’s ridiculous but the bloke did sort of bring it on himself.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kimbo on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:50:31 pm
I have to say he seemed pretty desperate to find those kids. He had a camera on him as well.


But really, Musk is out of order. I would assume someone with his resources will have someone looking into this guys background, he might think something has been found, but on the other hand his face will have been all over the news and no one has come forward.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:55:43 pm
But really, Musk is out of order. I would assume someone with his resources will have someone looking into this guys background, he might think something has been found, but on the other hand his face will have been all over the news and no one has come forward.

Musk only decided this guy was a peado when the guy criticised him. I'd hope if he had evidence the guy was a peado he'd give it to the authorities rather than post it on Twitter.

I presume Musk also thinks all the Westerners based in Thailand who were helping are also all peados?

Having met and known quite a few white South Africans I'm going to assume Musk is a massive racist like them.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kimbo on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 01:58:52 pm
Musk called him a paedo because he was upset, but I'm assuming that after being called out on it and threatened with legal action he would send someone to Thailand to investigate it. Not saying the guy is guilty at all, but if Musk didn't do that then he's not being a very good billionaire.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 02:02:59 pm
You can't just spit your dummy and call people pedos in the public domain. He's obviously academically very smart but that doesn't preclude him from moronic behavior. See Richard Dawkins for many examples
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 02:06:16 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 02:16:02 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 03:44:25 pm
Pedo guy started it tbf.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 03:52:48 pm
You can't just spit your dummy and call people pedos in the public domain. He's obviously academically very smart but that doesn't preclude him from moronic behavior. See Richard Dawkins for many examples

:thup:

I took a liking to Musk more recently after the Rogan chat, he felt a lot more normal and not some random billionaire.  But if he is a normal as people try to paint, that's exactly why he's just like anyone else that can be corrupted by the power they have gathered.  He should be a lot more responsible, and there's no 'he started it' to this.  He's been a c***, doubled down on it, and deserves to be rinsed for it.  If a billionaire can't handle a little diss from someone who is actually a f***ing hero (by the way, let's just forget that though eh), then he's literally, and I said this a few week back as a joke, but he's literally another Trump.   Don't paint it any other way because you admire his businesses, be consistent and call a c*** a c***.  His Rogan trip was pretty much his PR offensive from this moronacy. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 04:03:50 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:09:56 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:12:00 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.

Alright Musky lad.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:27:36 pm



Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.

Alright Musky lad.

Funny thing is, I don't even like Musk very much. The sub was stupid and he's generally a self--aggrandizing dick who could do far more good if he actually cared about helping people instead of making headlines and building fanciful gadgets. But that cave dude is 100% paedo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:32:09 pm
^ and that sort of irresponsible speculation is why - providing he's not a paedophile - I hope he takes Musk for everything he can get.

Getting canny sick of this whole disregard for innocent until proven guilty like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:35:54 pm
lols. He'll probably get paid off with whatever Elon made in interest that day. Probably even sign a deal where he admits he's a paedo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 06:03:48 pm



Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.

Alright Musky lad.

Funny thing is, I don't even like Musk very much. The sub was stupid and he's generally a self--aggrandizing dick who could do far more good if he actually cared about helping people instead of making headlines and building fanciful gadgets. But that cave dude is 100% paedo.

100% You can't know that for sure like  :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 06:33:37 pm



Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.

Alright Musky lad.

Funny thing is, I don't even like Musk very much. The sub was stupid and he's generally a self--aggrandizing dick who could do far more good if he actually cared about helping people instead of making headlines and building fanciful gadgets. But that cave dude is 100% paedo.

100% You can't know that for sure like  :lol:

I can, like. We took turns in a kiddie brothel in Bangkok once. He weaseled out of paying his half, cheap b******.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 06:34:20 pm
This is going well.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 06:43:10 pm



Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

Bit weird innit

I’d be happy a pedo got outed and stopped so he cannot diddle any more kids.

Wouldn't you rather he just, ye nah, wasn't a paedophile? :lol:

Well sure, but that's not an option because he clearly is.

Alright Musky lad.

Funny thing is, I don't even like Musk very much. The sub was stupid and he's generally a self--aggrandizing dick who could do far more good if he actually cared about helping people instead of making headlines and building fanciful gadgets. But that cave dude is 100% paedo.

100% You can't know that for sure like  :lol:

I can, like. We took turns in a kiddie brothel in Bangkok once. He weaseled out of paying his half, cheap b******.

 :scared:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:11:52 pm
I don't reckon he's a pedo
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:12:49 pm
I don't reckon he's a pedo
Either way it's a gamble of a post.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:14:18 pm
Sure, but I'll delete it if I'm wrong  O0
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:16:05 pm
I was talking about Yankee Toon [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:17:39 pm
I was talking about Yankee Toon [emoji38]

:lol: damn
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 11:24:05 pm
He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 11:26:49 pm


Assuming the guy is innocent (as far as we know, there's no evidence to say he isn't (the media will have been investigating and the authorities said they have nothing on him)) I hope Musk gets taken to the cleaners.

A Multi billionaire deciding to destroy someone on a petulant whim and then have his supporters assume they must be correct is a dangerous world to live in.
Tbf he was responding to the bloke griefing him like. His comments were needlessly cuntish.

Calling him a peado is obviously ridiculous though and he (the cave diver) should get something.


Yeah, being exposed as a pedophile :pow:

Kaiz is gonna be so happy if some little kids got diddled.

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 11:28:26 pm
But really, Musk is out of order. I would assume someone with his resources will have someone looking into this guys background, he might think something has been found, but on the other hand his face will have been all over the news and no one has come forward.

Musk only decided this guy was a peado when the guy criticised him. I'd hope if he had evidence the guy was a peado he'd give it to the authorities rather than post it on Twitter.

I presume Musk also thinks all the Westerners based in Thailand who were helping are also all peados?

Having met and known quite a few white South Africans I'm going to assume Musk is a massive racist like them.

I’d say this is far likelier than the other dude being a nonce :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 11:34:34 pm
True, only needs to start speaking in that slow Afrikaan accent and he'd be your typical apartheid sympathiser.

He like 99.999999% of humans has his faults, he just stupidly shares it on the internet.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 07:37:54 am
He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 07:45:34 am
The guy is a diver and a cave diver. Thailand has a vast network of caves and other location where you can go diving. Him moving there makes sense.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 07:57:26 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 08:11:02 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 08:16:12 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.
So they arrested 25 people last year out of all the 30+ year old white males travelling too Thailand from Norway. So what about the thousands that fit the demographic who didn’t get arrested?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 08:20:10 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.
So they arrested 25 people last year out of all the 30+ year old white males travelling too Thailand from Norway. So what about the thousands that fit the demographic who didn’t get arrested?

The point is that if the police did see that demographic as the most likely to be pedos, they’d still be on the loose. Healthy suspicion of people willingly travelling alone to places where child prositution is an issue is a good thing. The larger the awareness of the issue the larger the chance of taking down the criminals.

Not defending Musk here either, a man in his position obviously shouldn’t say the things he did on a public platform. But that doesn’t mean men in the demographic of the cave diver needs to be watched in places such as Thailand.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 08:59:40 am
It's f***ing Thailand, it's one of the premier tourist hotspots on Earth. Kaiz you sound like a total dunce here like.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:02:27 am
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:05:18 am
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:06:23 am
No you have to prove that you aren't a paedo
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:08:27 am
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

I would personally be a lot more inclined to believe you are, but that doesn't mean you are. I realize I've been over the top with the general strength of my accusation towards this particular dude for humorous purposes, but just because you are in Thailand doesn't mean you're a pedo. It just means that in my opinion, it's now more likely that you might be one than if you hadn't gone alone to Thailand. I'd go into more detailed reasons as to why I harbor this view, but it's not that vital for me that people on here understand where I'm coming from. I have no issues with anyone calling my opinion s*** because it's not the same as theirs.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Papavasiliou on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:25:43 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.
So they arrested 25 people last year out of all the 30+ year old white males travelling too Thailand from Norway. So what about the thousands that fit the demographic who didn’t get arrested?

You culd probably get similar numbers if you spent a year investigating everyone going to any relatively popular country.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 09:29:34 am


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.

Not sure what any of that has to do with presuming people are paedophiles until it's proven they're not solely because they're a male travelling to Thailand alone. Literally the thick mindset of the No Smoke Without Fire c***s, Tommy Robinson, and the sort of idiots who end up burning down paediatricians because they don't understand the difference. You're having zero affect on my life :lol: I'm just saying that you're acting like an idiot, when normally you're not.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 02:11:04 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Glad I was with my ex when I went, probably looked less suspicious.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 02:19:50 pm
Depends how old she was
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hughesy on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 02:42:57 pm
If people are going to smear this bloke's name for having the audacity to live in Thailand, can people at least spell "paedo" correctly?  It's not much to ask.  It's not "pedo".  Thanks.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 02:56:13 pm
Depends how old she was

:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: wormy on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 02:59:03 pm
This thread has genuinely concerned me as far as future travelling though, despite the fact I wouldn't plan to do so until I had a partner to go with anyway. Would love to see more of Southeast Asia but I didn't realise it'd make me a paedo. Where in Southeast Asia is acceptable?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 03:01:02 pm
This thread has genuinely concerned me as far as future travelling though, despite the fact I wouldn't plan to do so until I had a partner to go with anyway. Would love to see more of Southeast Asia but I didn't realise it'd make me a paedo. Where in Southeast Asia is acceptable?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/0b771023ad6cdb3a6f7949ecbd5dad11/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 03:01:47 pm
If people are going to smear this bloke's name for having the audacity to live in Thailand, can people at least spell "paedo" correctly?  It's not much to ask.  It's not "pedo".  Thanks.

Actually pedo comes from the greek root so is strictly speaking more correct however the British adaptaion, paedo, does eliminate confusion with 'ped' meanng foot.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 03:02:30 pm
This thread has genuinely concerned me as far as future travelling though, despite the fact I wouldn't plan to do so until I had a partner to go with anyway. Would love to see more of Southeast Asia but I didn't realise it'd make me a paedo. Where in Southeast Asia is acceptable?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/0b771023ad6cdb3a6f7949ecbd5dad11/tenor.gif)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: hakka on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 03:08:15 pm
Depends how old she was

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 03:10:26 pm
I was not aware of the paedo stereotype. Always thought the stereotype of the single white 30+ male was that of a socially awkward, not so successful nor handsome guy travelling down there to get laid and potentially even get a younger wife normally considered as being way out of his league. They even made a TV show about the concept here in Norway, based in a little village where there was an abnormally high percentage of males that were married with thai women.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hughesy on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 04:06:51 pm
If people are going to smear this bloke's name for having the audacity to live in Thailand, can people at least spell "paedo" correctly?  It's not much to ask.  It's not "pedo".  Thanks.

Actually pedo comes from the greek root so is strictly speaking more correct however the British adaptaion, paedo, does eliminate confusion with 'ped' meanng foot.
Incorrect - for my sins, I've studied Ancient Greek and the Greek for a child is, in anglicised form, "pais", genitive being "paidos".  The "ai" section of the word is much closer to the English version, not the US version.

 :milner:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 04:25:48 pm
I was not aware of the paedo stereotype. Always thought the stereotype of the single white 30+ male was that of a socially awkward, not so successful nor handsome guy travelling down there to get laid and potentially even get a younger wife normally considered as being way out of his league. They even made a TV show about the concept here in Norway, based in a little village where there was an abnormally high percentage of males that were married with thai women.
That's also the UK stereotype of single, older men who go to Thailand too.

Louis Theroux did a documentary on it: -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00b992v
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 05:31:11 pm


He's a middle aged white male that moved to Thailand. I would assume he was a pedophile with or without Elon Musk pointing it out, just as I believe every single middle aged white male from a western country that's moved to Thailand is, in fact, a pedophile until proven otherwise.

How do you know he didn't move there for the ladyboys?  Or you know, because it's a beautiful country with a low cost of living?  Or because he can pull a lass over 20 years younger than him (but legal) and well out of his league?

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/sei_28155947-368f.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C540)



I don’t know, but the stereotype exists for areason. Thailand is horrible with regards to child prostitution, and as mentioned earlier, over here if you’re a single white male 30+ you even got put on a watchlist if you travel alone to Thailand. Naturally there’s less pedos than pedos travelling to Thailand (I assume). But if you’re 30+, white and travel there alone, you are a pedo in my eyes until you prove me otherwise. If you travelled to a country where child prostitution wasn’treadily available and you’re in the key demographic, I’d not think you’re a pedo. But if you do, I’ll think you’re a pedo. There’s other countries with easily accessible legal men/women and a similar cost of living, but you’re going to the oneknown for child prostitution. Just no. Don’t do it.

You really have turned into a bit of an idiot recently like Kaiz. [emoji38]


Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.

Such a weird view from someone that loves everything about America and being free.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 05:42:11 pm
Creased that this is the hill Kaiz is choosing to die upon. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:08:54 pm
Absolutely spectacular assertions here like, spectacular [emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Si on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:28:03 pm
Absolutely spectacular assertions here like, spectacular [emoji38]
Basically saying the passport stamp on entry should just be nonce. It's staggering, and a bit racist to boil the only reason for a certain demographic to visit the country is one horrific element.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:32:53 pm
Why are yous all DEFENDING NONCES
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: OpenC on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:33:53 pm
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 07:08:36 pm
Why are yous all DEFENDING NONCES

Think we may have stumbled upon another way to profile nonces.

Rescue little Thai boys from cave? NONCE
Middle aged white man travelling from Norway to Thailand on your own? NONCE
Enter online discussions defending middle aged men who travel from Norway to Thailand on their own? NONCE
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 10:25:19 pm
I was not aware of the paedo stereotype. Always thought the stereotype of the single white 30+ male was that of a socially awkward, not so successful nor handsome guy travelling down there to get laid and potentially even get a younger wife normally considered as being way out of his league. They even made a TV show about the concept here in Norway, based in a little village where there was an abnormally high percentage of males that were married with thai women.
Same. But that's because I know loads of rancid rig dwellers that had done it and don't know any nonses. That I'm aware of.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 10:36:04 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Depends, do you have a custom submarine?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 10:37:26 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 20 September 2018, 12:15:15 am
If people are going to smear this bloke's name for having the audacity to live in Thailand, can people at least spell "paedo" correctly?  It's not much to ask.  It's not "pedo".  Thanks.

Actually pedo comes from the greek root so is strictly speaking more correct however the British adaptaion, paedo, does eliminate confusion with 'ped' meanng foot.
Incorrect - for my sins, I've studied Ancient Greek and the Greek for a child is, in anglicised form, "pais", genitive being "paidos".  The "ai" section of the word is much closer to the English version, not the US version.

 :milner:

With respect, both the internet and my Greek language teacher friend disagree.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hughesy on Thursday 20 September 2018, 12:28:34 am
If people are going to smear this bloke's name for having the audacity to live in Thailand, can people at least spell "paedo" correctly?  It's not much to ask.  It's not "pedo".  Thanks.

Actually pedo comes from the greek root so is strictly speaking more correct however the British adaptaion, paedo, does eliminate confusion with 'ped' meanng foot.
Incorrect - for my sins, I've studied Ancient Greek and the Greek for a child is, in anglicised form, "pais", genitive being "paidos".  The "ai" section of the word is much closer to the English version, not the US version.

 :milner:

With respect, both the internet and my Greek language teacher friend disagree.
I did a degree in Latin and Ancient Greek. It's one of the first words you learn. There's literally no way "Pais" can be pronounced in the US fashion. The "ai" in Ancient Greek is far closer to the UK "pae" than "ped". We can agree to disagree though.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 20 September 2018, 01:02:56 am
Only a pedophile would be that pedantic about paedophilia.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Thursday 20 September 2018, 01:20:12 am
Norwegian police arrested around 25 people last year, and discovered a child porn ring consisting of 1000+ people thanks to their watch list. I’m quite content with my worldview, these people need to be kept off the street and if the police didn’t do what they did they’d still be on the loose. Which people I would suspect if being pedo or not has no effect on your life, and if it does, that is weird.

That just says there's a high rate of noncery in Norwegians, not white men.

I've just got back from LA, there were a lot of kids there.  Wouldn't trust any Norwegians who travel there for "work".
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 20 September 2018, 09:48:20 am
:lol: "lotta kids in LA...very suspicious..."
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 September 2018, 11:18:30 am
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 20 September 2018, 11:32:12 am
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
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:lol: Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 20 September 2018, 01:44:45 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
[close]

:lol: Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.

It's short and sharp atm, man. Phresh, some might say.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 20 September 2018, 02:43:06 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
[close]

:lol: Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.

It's short and sharp atm, man. Phresh, some might say.

Man, it's like you want it to happen :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 20 September 2018, 03:57:02 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
[close]

:lol: Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.

It's short and sharp atm, man. Phresh, some might say.

Red flag - nits
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 20 September 2018, 04:08:37 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
[close]

:lol: Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.

It's short and sharp atm, man. Phresh, some might say.

Sounds like a short back n daft c***
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Thursday 20 September 2018, 04:51:54 pm
I've got my reasons, and that's what matters to me.

I'm about to turn 29, and I'd love to go travelling before I start a PhD. if I go to Thailand in 1 year, will I have to become a paedo?

Cant be that much of a stretch with that beard.

You gonna let @Super Duper Branko Strupar get away with this @Jimburst

Spoiler
[close]

[emoji38] Yeah man, like water off Branko's greasy mop.

It's short and sharp atm, man. Phresh, some might say.

Red flag - nits
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Friday 21 September 2018, 12:26:46 am
Spoilers in spoilers break the theme.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: tgarve on Friday 21 September 2018, 04:28:11 am
Literally kaizero spouting the biggest pile of s**** I’ve seen on the Internet here. Potentially libel and criminal views. Probably a pedo himself
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 21 September 2018, 05:48:10 am
Literally kaizero spouting the biggest pile of s**** I’ve seen on the Internet here. Potentially libel and criminal views. Probably a pedo himself

Norwegian in LA by himself for work, checks out.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 09:44:14 am
(https://i.giphy.com/media/gl0mkIZOW6Nwc/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 09:45:21 am
Never existed a watchlist and never been any arrests made from one either. I mean, come the f*** on guys :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 21 September 2018, 10:12:01 am
Who's saying there isn't a watchlist made up of white males over 30 travelling to Thailand from Norway? It's your assumption that everyone on that list is a paedophile until proven otherwise that's the braindead bit.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 10:14:23 am
It's not my actual assumption, man :lol: I even went through all the best stupid cliches for arguing s*** viewpoints like "I know more.... BUT I WON'T TELL YOU" :frantic: and just handing out made-up facts :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 21 September 2018, 10:32:50 am
TBF we all just called you out as being unusually stupid.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 10:36:46 am
Yeah, there's no issue with the response :lol: It just made me realize how easy it is to get stuck in defending s*** opinions as everything you get thrown against you when you have one is people calling you names and s***, rather than some well thought out responses. Not that I think any well thought out responses could change a s*** opinion, as most people harboring one would probably just start throwing s*** back when faced with having to think about things, but still. If I actually had this opinion, I'm sure the responses to it would make me even more adamant it was correct. It's such a weird cause and effect.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 21 September 2018, 10:40:11 am
It's very hard to argue with people that say "that's what I believe and I'm not going to give any reasons", there's no level of debate.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 21 September 2018, 12:56:42 pm
Haha, made you all think I'm an idiot!

^ That sort of thing? I'm a bit lost.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 21 September 2018, 01:08:36 pm
We’ve all said something daft and then just refused to let it go like, Kaiz just expanded on the genre and made it his own.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 02:45:57 pm
Haha, made you all think I'm an idiot!

^ That sort of thing? I'm a bit lost.

It started as a fun Elon-fanboy joke thing, then morphed into an experiment for my own benefit to try to "get" the viewpoint of defending a dim opinion and to see what opposing arguments could pop up. The entire point of why I did it is almost as dumb as the stance, tbf. And the result was just what I already thought, there's no way to discuss with someone having a dumb opinion, but also nobody actually tries to counter argue properly because the opinion is as dumb as it is. Kinda disappointed the other Norwegian who joined the discussion didn't pick up on the obvious fake news I had thrown in there, though :lol:

tl;dr, I learnt nothing new and wasted everyone's time, as I do :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 21 September 2018, 02:49:16 pm
We’ve all said something daft and then just refused to let it go like, Kaiz just expanded on the genre and made it his own.

:snod:

Peeps are so f***ing uptight. It was grade A nonsensery, exactly what the Internet is for. Top work by Noncero imo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 02:51:53 pm
We’ve all said something daft and then just refused to let it go like, Kaiz just expanded on the genre and made it his own.

:snod:

Peeps are so f***ing uptight. It was grade A nonsensery, exactly what the Internet is for. Top work by Noncero imo.

:lol: :clap:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 21 September 2018, 03:01:53 pm
Haha, made you all think I'm an idiot!

^ That sort of thing? I'm a bit lost.

It started as a fun Elon-fanboy joke thing, then morphed into an experiment for my own benefit to try to "get" the viewpoint of defending a dim opinion and to see what opposing arguments could pop up. The entire point of why I did it is almost as dumb as the stance, tbf. And the result was just what I already thought, there's no way to discuss with someone having a dumb opinion, but also nobody actually tries to counter argue properly because the opinion is as dumb as it is. Kinda disappointed the other Norwegian who joined the discussion didn't pick up on the obvious fake news I had thrown in there, though :lol:

tl;dr, I learnt nothing new and wasted everyone's time, as I do :lol:

Probably the worst 'experiment' I've seen this side of Joey Salads tbh. :lol: The only thing you learned is that everyone thought your were capable of being that stupid instead of assuming it was a wind-up. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 03:13:17 pm
Haha, made you all think I'm an idiot!

^ That sort of thing? I'm a bit lost.

It started as a fun Elon-fanboy joke thing, then morphed into an experiment for my own benefit to try to "get" the viewpoint of defending a dim opinion and to see what opposing arguments could pop up. The entire point of why I did it is almost as dumb as the stance, tbf. And the result was just what I already thought, there's no way to discuss with someone having a dumb opinion, but also nobody actually tries to counter argue properly because the opinion is as dumb as it is. Kinda disappointed the other Norwegian who joined the discussion didn't pick up on the obvious fake news I had thrown in there, though :lol:

tl;dr, I learnt nothing new and wasted everyone's time, as I do :lol:

Probably the worst 'experiment' I've seen this side of Joey Salads tbh. :lol: The only thing you learned is that everyone thought your were capable of being that stupid instead of assuming it was a wind-up. :lol:

It was a fairly horrible experiment, admittedly. All it did was f*** up my sense of how people view by seeing everyone assume I was an idiot :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Conjo on Friday 21 September 2018, 03:43:32 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/sheppy2003/intarg1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 21 September 2018, 03:49:00 pm
I'm not winning anything, man. This'll stick for months, either way.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 23 September 2018, 02:59:53 am
Months?  Ask Ian how long s*** sticks around these parts :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Sunday 23 September 2018, 03:36:43 am
:lol:  Yorkie's plane left the atmosphere nearly five years ago.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Sunday 23 September 2018, 04:00:04 am
I said concept of tits in like 2010.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 23 September 2018, 05:00:00 am
:lol:  Yorkie's plane left the atmosphere nearly five years ago.

f***ing hell :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 23 September 2018, 02:38:18 pm
I said concept of tits in like 2010.
2010 was probably peak N-O imo.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: newsted on Sunday 23 September 2018, 03:12:47 pm
Twin Peaks iyam.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Friday 28 September 2018, 12:45:50 am
Sued again.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Friday 28 September 2018, 01:06:34 am
Sued again.

Another paedo, or the same one again?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Friday 28 September 2018, 01:20:35 am
Sued again.

Another paedo, or the same one again?

Fraud, something to do with him trying to take Tesla public.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 28 September 2018, 04:08:24 am
Sued again.

Another paedo, or the same one again?

Fraud, something to do with him trying to take Tesla public.

Wasn't it the opposite? Him saying without foundation on Twitter that he was going to take Tesla private, which made the stock drop drastically.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 28 September 2018, 04:42:54 am
Sued again.

Another paedo, or the same one again?

Fraud, something to do with him trying to take Tesla public.

Wasn't it the opposite? Him saying without foundation on Twitter that he was going to take Tesla private, which made the stock drop drastically.

Other way around wasn't it?  He stupidly tweeted that he'd secured funding to take Tesla private for $420 a share which was a lot higher than the current price so a load of shorters lost a bundle closing out their positions.

You can go to jail for that s***, don't know what he was thinking.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Dave on Sunday 30 September 2018, 01:23:44 am
Quote
Elon Musk must step down as Tesla chair and pay a fine after reaching a deal with US regulators over tweets he posted about taking the firm private.

It follows Thursday's decision by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to sue Mr Musk for alleged securities fraud.

Under the deal, Mr Musk will remain as Tesla CEO but will step down as chairman for three years.

Both he and Tesla will also have to pay a $20m (£15m) fine.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: newsted on Sunday 30 September 2018, 05:51:07 am
Is that going to hurt him much? His stupid tweets haven't done anywhere near as much damage as another megalomaniac I can think of immediately.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: wacko on Sunday 30 September 2018, 10:33:44 am
Is that going to hurt him much? His stupid tweets haven't done anywhere near as much damage as another megalomaniac I can think of immediately.

… who's doing everything he can to shut down a host of investigations before they reach him and/or give himself immunity.

Arguably, Trump has a boner for Kavanaugh because of the pending Gamble v. United States case (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamble_v._United_States), and Kavanaugh would rule Trump's way.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 11 October 2018, 03:59:00 pm
James Murdoch in line to replace Musk. According to the FT
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Thursday 11 October 2018, 04:07:07 pm
James Murdoch in line to replace Musk. According to the FT

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 11 October 2018, 05:48:27 pm
Oh oh, Musk is on Twitter :frantic:

Areet, it's me, two thousand and nine.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 11 October 2018, 05:52:18 pm
The article did imply that Musk wasn't happy about it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 25 November 2018, 08:35:45 pm
Going to kill himself by trying to go to Mars in the next 7 years despite being told by experts theirs a high probability of him dying.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: YankeeToon on Monday 26 November 2018, 12:13:35 am
Going to kill himself by trying to go to Mars in the next 7 years despite being told by experts theirs a high probability of him dying.

Doesn't want to live in a world where nonces are heroes anymore.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Odear on Monday 26 November 2018, 01:36:42 am
I often wonder where on the spectrum this chap is. He’s not the full shilling is he?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Monday 26 November 2018, 02:08:07 am
Seems a bit suspicious.  Mars has even fewer noncery laws than Thailand.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Monday 26 November 2018, 04:04:11 am
[Norway] He's not going alone though so he's alright [/Norway]
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Monday 26 November 2018, 04:07:15 am
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Monday 26 November 2018, 04:14:50 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRRw1ERj2Gc
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 28 November 2018, 03:24:22 pm
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/elon-musk-work-16-hours-day/

Quote
Elon Musk thinks people should work 16 hours a day
By Ethan Jupp| November 27th, 2018

The CEO of Tesla, Elon Musk, has claimed that you need to work 80 hours a week to “change the world”.

Musk has been responding to news via Twitter that Tesla is one of the Silicon Valley region’s most popular companies to work for. The proud, if controversial, father of a number of pioneering businesses openly invited Twitter users to join his corporate family.

His sell? “If getting things done matters to you” then Tesla, SpaceX, Boring Company and Neuralink is where you belong. According to a follow-up Tweet, getting things done means serious work hours – “nobody ever changed the world on 40 hours a week”.

When asked how many hours you need to get things done, Musk’s response was “about 80 sustained, peaking above 100 at times”. Even he goes on to admit that “pain level increases exponentially above 80”.

His logic is reasonably sound, for those it applies to at least, “if you love what you do, it (mostly) doesn’t feel like work”.

Does he think Tesla employees doing 100+ hours a week to keep Model 3 deliveries going are working their dream jobs? That’s still unclear.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 28 November 2018, 03:27:44 pm
The sooner he f***s off to Mars, the better.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 28 November 2018, 04:14:14 pm
But he's doing it for mankind, Deuce. 

In fairness, it does seem a little twisted in what he actually said.  He's right about enjoying work, you'll easily go overboard for something you love (and get paid handsomely to do).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 28 November 2018, 04:23:35 pm
But he's doing it for mankind, Deuce. 

In fairness, it does seem a little twisted in what he actually said.  He's right about enjoying work, you'll easily go overboard for something you love (and get paid handsomely to do).

That's what entrepreneurs do.  It's the reason why it's good for people to be owners of micro businesses they love.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Wednesday 28 November 2018, 04:24:59 pm
:thup:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 27 December 2018, 08:18:01 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46693736

Quote
Musk seeks to dismiss 'pedo' defamation claim

Elon Musk is seeking to dismiss a defamation claim by saying that "over-the-top" paedophilia claims he tweeted should not be taken seriously.

He is being sued by Vern Unsworth, who aided the rescue of 12 boys from Thailand's Tham Luang caves.

The two clashed over how to free the boys in an exchange that led to Tesla's chief calling Mr Unsworth "pedo guy".

Mr Musk's lawyers said the "insult" had been made in response to Mr Unsworth's own disparaging remarks.

Mr Unsworth is from St Albans, Hertfordshire, but now lives near Chiang Rai in Thailand.

Angry response
The "vituperative" exchange between Mr Musk and Mr Unsworth took place during frantic attempts to rescue the 12 boys and their coach from deep within the partially flooded caves in July 2018. Mr Unsworth helped recruit experienced UK cave divers, who were instrumental in freeing the boys.

Mr Musk mobilised a group of Tesla engineers to help with the rescue effort and left behind a specially designed mini-submarine that he claimed could help transport the children out of the caves. The submarine was never used to free the boys.

In an interview on CNN, Mr Unsworth ridiculed the submarine calling it a "PR stunt".

Responding in a series of tweets, Mr Musk gave more details about how the submarine might work and posted the "pedo" comment.

When quizzed for his response, Mr Unsworth said he was considering legal action.Soon after, Mr Musk apologised and deleted the offending tweets saying he had acted "in anger".

He added: "His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologise."

But the row escalated after Mr Musk referenced his initial insult in a separate Twitter exchange.

In this, he said it was "strange" that Mr Unsworth had not sued him over the allegation despite being offered free legal advice.

Soon after, Mr Unsworth's lawyers posted a series of tweets criticising Mr Musk and his characterisation of their client.

Documents prepared by Mr Musk's attorney said he responded to this via "off the record" emails to Buzzfeed journalists seeking comment in which he issued further "insults", some of which alleged Mr Unsworth had a "child bride".

Despite being labelled as "off the record", the emails were published and led to the lodging of the defamation claim in a California court.

Mr Musk wants the court to throw out the defamation claim because, his lawyers say, his comments were "non-actionable opinion".

The legal team said the Tesla chief had never met Mr Unsworth so his comments had no "factual basis".

Instead, the words were "over-top-insults not driven by first-hand knowledge".

Mr Musk's lawyers argue at length that because the "schoolyard spat" blew up on Twitter, which they say is "infamous for invective and hyperbole", no-one could reasonably believe the comments were truthful.

The fact that they were on social media served to underline how different they were from a proper press expose or criminal complaint, the lawyers add.

Neither Mr Unsworth nor his own legal team have responded to requests for comment by the BBC.

How defamation works in the US

By Clive Coleman, BBC legal correspondent
The first amendment of the United States Constitution, which protects free speech, makes defamation a challenging legal action to bring.

A plaintiff - the person bringing the case - has to prove the statement made about them is false and that it has caused them material harm.

However, the toughest hurdle is that if the person bringing the case is regarded as a public figure - and "public figure" is given a pretty wide interpretation - it has to be proved that the defendant acted maliciously.

In other words, that the person making the statement knew it to be false and went on to make it.

Another way of putting it would be that it must be proved that the defendant knowingly lied with the intention of harming the plaintiff.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 27 December 2018, 08:21:46 pm
And people wonder why the guy nearly didn't bother trying to sue?  Cause he's got the best lawyers in the world that'll twist this to f***.  Shame on Musk, give the guy a decent wee bung and move on, but he's an immoral c*** pretending to be humanity's saviour so he'll not do one single person a goodness.  His weed PR push failed, it lasted about a month before c*** returned. 

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Mr Musk's lawyers argue at length that because the "schoolyard spat" blew up on Twitter, which they say is "infamous for invective and hyperbole", no-one could reasonably believe the comments were truthful

But that's pretty much what happened.  "He wouldn't make these comments without proof surely" and moronic s**** like that. 
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Thursday 27 December 2018, 10:19:34 pm
:lol:  It's not like he just channeled Disco, didn't he actually claim to have evidence?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 27 December 2018, 11:34:57 pm
:lol:  It's not like he just channeled Disco, didn't he actually claim to have evidence?

His evidence was probably some Norwegian guy explaining the finer points of pedo tracking based on travel habits.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 27 December 2018, 11:39:07 pm
:lol:  It's not like he just channeled Disco, didn't he actually claim to have evidence?

His evidence was probably some Norwegian guy explaining the finer points of pedo tracking based on travel habits.

:lol: :lol:

@Kaizero
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 27 December 2018, 11:42:33 pm
:lol:  It's not like he just channeled Disco, didn't he actually claim to have evidence?

His evidence was probably some Norwegian guy explaining the finer points of pedo tracking based on travel habits.

:lol: :lol:

@Kaizero

Me and Elon are developing a travel based pedo-tracking business together as we speak.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 27 December 2018, 11:47:03 pm
Can imagine the conversation with his lawyers, 'No, it doesn't work like that, yes, I know he's Norwegian, no, Elon, really, it won't hold up, yes, even if he's traveling by himself, ok, see you tomorrow, bye.  <click>  f***ing Scandos.'
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 11 January 2019, 04:44:11 am
Chinese government have offered him a Chinese green card. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Mike on Friday 11 January 2019, 05:08:07 am
I feel like China wouldn't be the best place to be inevitably caught with weed?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 11 January 2019, 05:32:35 am
Not if you're Chinese :lol:  Certain....... blind eyes get turned when it comes to foreigners recreational activities. Especially ones that have just broken ground on a huge new car factory  :shifty:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 04:01:05 am
Getting ready for suborbital hop testing

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwnklVpUUAEOKTe?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:00:23 am
His twatness aside, this is all cool.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 02:58:08 pm
Even better:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SGFB2TjkVGE/XDUOWN0kVNI/AAAAAAAAAUg/gZLttEaADIkvjy9lIiYcK3Waklc50mKyQCLcBGAs/s2048/SpaceX%2BStarhopper%252C%2BStarship%2Band%2BSuper%2BHeavy%2Bmodel%2Bcomparison%2Bwith%2Bheight%2Bby%2BKimi%2BTalvitie.jpg)

Building them out of stainless steel makes them look all kinds of awesome.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 04:10:17 pm
Looks like a vape pen on the right. Tries his hand at everything, does Elon.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 04:20:20 pm
:lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:00:32 pm
Pretty much pissing Tesla down the drain now.
He’s announced that Tesla will no longer sell the cars with entry level range anymore, meaning some wars will start off at a price point over $70k. Meanwhile the generic manufacturers are all starting to introduce their own cars which has the same range as the Tesla’s at much much lower price points.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Kaizero on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:14:12 pm
Pretty much pissing Tesla down the drain now.
He’s announced that Tesla will no longer sell the cars with entry level range anymore, meaning some wars will start off at a price point over $70k. Meanwhile the generic manufacturers are all starting to introduce their own cars which has the same range as the Tesla’s at much much lower price points.

Or, it's a wise strategy move, shifting Tesla into being the "exclusive/expensive" electric car brand now that every brand is starting to throw out cheap electric options.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 13 January 2019, 12:17:15 am
I can't see how Tesla will survive now Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, etc have their own electric vehicles. Most of those companies make huge profits (not losses like Tesla).

Tesla moving further upmarket will have them competing with Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, McLaren, Bentley, Rolls Royce, etc. who will have their electric vehicles available in a couple of years. Most of those brands are owned by companies with deep pockets. Tesla will have to go niche and therefore small volume.

All other manufacturers are coming with their electric vehicles. Tesla won't stand a chance against Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Adam^ on Sunday 13 January 2019, 12:52:29 am
Pretty much pissing Tesla down the drain now.
He’s announced that Tesla will no longer sell the cars with entry level range anymore, meaning some wars will start off at a price point over $70k. Meanwhile the generic manufacturers are all starting to introduce their own cars which has the same range as the Tesla’s at much much lower price points.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/9/18176198/tesla-75kwh-battery-model-s-x-price

Thats only for the S and X though, you can still get a 3 with the smaller battery pack. I dont see what the issue is here, all brands have more expensive bigger cars, the S and X are the tesla premium models.

As for how they compete with the other companies that will depend on how much their electric versions cost going forward, the tesla self driving stuff is crazy and I havent see anything on a similar level from BMW Audi etc.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 13 January 2019, 12:26:43 pm
Tesla will become a footnote. Tesla don't have a bottomless pit of money like e.g. the VW group. VW and the like can pour billions into R&D and technology whilst still making a profit.

The Jaguar I-PACE has arrived and compares very favorably with the Tesla equivalent (according to the various reviews). It's the first of many electric vehicles from the major manufacturers aimed at Tesla's market.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: chopey on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:14:25 pm
Can't believe its 2019 and we still use rockets to get to space, Richplanet seems to think its bullshit

 https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=254&part=1&gen=5
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:16:27 pm
The same jaguar that are losing stupid amounts of money.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:23:23 pm
Where are these car companies planning to get their batteries?  Which company owns the biggest battery factory in the world?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:24:32 pm
Also, don't see any other major manufacturer planning to build electric cars in China itself which is already the biggest market in the world for electric cars.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:32:33 pm
That's even without mentioning the utility scale grid projects Tesla does.  Can't really see BMW installing a power plant backup :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 13 January 2019, 01:50:05 pm
You back Tesla, I'll back the VW group. We'll see who's correct.

We're talking cars here not batteries. Tesla will do better with the battery side of the business than the car business.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:13:03 pm
You back Tesla, I'll back the VW group. We'll see who's correct.

We're talking cars here not batteries. Tesla will do better with the battery side of the business than the car business.

Ok, fine, but where are they going to get their batteries?  Global production is at 198 GWh and Tesla is 105GWh of that.

No batteries, no car....
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 13 January 2019, 03:20:42 pm
So the batteries Jaguar, Mercedes, etc are using now are from Tesla are they?

Like I said, I think Tesla's car business isn't going to beat the established car manufacturers over the medium to long term.

Tesla are more likely to succeed with batteries than cars.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Elric on Sunday 13 January 2019, 07:34:39 pm
Needs to just concentrate on Neuralink and space exploration now, tbh.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 13 January 2019, 09:20:43 pm
Also, don't see any other major manufacturer planning to build electric cars in China itself which is already the biggest market in the world for electric cars.
Utter horse s***.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/11/23/6-10-big-electric-car-companies-china/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 20 January 2019, 12:36:30 am
Daily Mail reporting that those thai kids were sedated and handcuffed in order to be rescued. What kind of diver carries around handcuffs and chloroform, asks Elon.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 20 January 2019, 12:55:36 am
:lol:

I'd heard they had to be sedated, didn't realise that was breaking news.  Handcuffed seems a bit extreme. :lol:

Imagine it went wrong and you were handcuffed as you drowned. :anguish:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 20 January 2019, 01:17:33 am
Panic would have been the worst thing that could have happened during the rescue (pedo divers notwithstanding).  Kid panics and starts thrashing around or kicking out and they'd be killing both themselves and the rescue divers.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 20 January 2019, 01:33:34 am
So the batteries Jaguar, Mercedes, etc are using now are from Tesla are they?

Like I said, I think Tesla's car business isn't going to beat the established car manufacturers over the medium to long term.

Tesla are more likely to succeed with batteries than cars.
:thup: This has been the industry view for a while too, e.g. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenrwald/2017/04/15/tesla-is-a-battery-business-not-a-car-business/#4b270cd86ba9
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 20 January 2019, 01:42:48 am
Panic would have been the worst thing that could have happened during the rescue (pedo divers notwithstanding).  Kid panics and starts thrashing around or kicking out and they'd be killing both themselves and the rescue divers.

Aye, I mean I get it, but just would have thought sedation might be enough for pretty hungry, tired kids. :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Troll on Sunday 20 January 2019, 01:59:27 am
Their masks didn't fit properly, and they could have easily been pulled off.  Handcuffs (cable ties actually) were to stop them from being able to do it.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Disco on Sunday 20 January 2019, 02:18:35 am
Makes more sense why he was fewmin now. He could’ve made his Dad proud hog tying some non-whites like the good old days.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: HTT on Sunday 20 January 2019, 02:33:24 am
Tesla will be around for a long time yet and I’d wager will outlive some of the more traditional car makers. They will be future market leaders in the automative industry ahead of even some of the bigger traditional names that dominate the industry today.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 20 January 2019, 03:34:04 am
Yeah, I totally get why. You don't want a panicky kid thrashing about (reminds me of an Oor Wullie story, when he claimed he got a black eye rescuing a guy from drowning, when he was embarrassed to admit he'd been  hit with a baby's rattle. Toxic masculinity never did him any harm).
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 20 January 2019, 02:16:13 pm
Tesla will be around for a long time yet and I’d wager will outlive some of the more traditional car makers. They will be future market leaders in the automative industry ahead of even some of the bigger traditional names that dominate the industry today.

Is your opinion based on any facts or just a hunch? It's a bit vague to say "some of the more traditional car makers". The big players (Toyota, VW Group, Honda, etc) are always likely to be around. Smaller manufacturers get swallowed up by other manufacturers or simply go out of business. It's no yard stick to say Tesla may outlast a non giant manufacturer.

Read the article 'thomas' posted: -
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenrwald/2017/04/15/tesla-is-a-battery-business-not-a-car-business/#4b270cd86ba9

Speaking of batteries, Panasonic (who have just announced a joint venture with Toyota to produce batteries for electric vehicles) make batteries for Tesla.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/toyota-panasonic-to-set-up-ev-battery-jv-in-2020-source/ar-BBSuh3I?ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 20 January 2019, 07:33:49 pm
wait a damn minute why's my name in inverted commas :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 20 January 2019, 09:37:54 pm
wait a damn minute why's my name in inverted commas :lol: :lol:
If thomas is your real name you should respect yourself more and start it with a capital T.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: BlufPurdi on Sunday 20 January 2019, 09:40:46 pm
:lol:  Get him told.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 20 January 2019, 10:17:26 pm
"self respect"  :spit:
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 05:43:22 am
Starlink getting closer to operation, could begin limited service next year.  This really does have the potential to change the world.

Quote
SpaceX is seeking US approval to deploy up to 1 million Earth stations to receive transmissions from its planned satellite broadband constellation.

The Federal Communications Commission last year gave SpaceX permission to deploy 11,943 low-Earth orbit satellites for the planned Starlink system. A new application from SpaceX Services, a sister company, asks the FCC for "a blanket license authorizing operation of up to 1,000,000 Earth stations that end-user customers will utilize to communicate with SpaceX's NGSO [non-geostationary orbit] constellation."

The application was published by FCC.report, a third-party site that tracks FCC filings. GeekWire reported the news on Friday. An FCC spokesperson confirmed to Ars today that SpaceX filed the application on February 1, 2019.

If each end-user Earth station provides Internet service to one building, SpaceX could eventually need authorization for more than 1 million stations in the US. SpaceX job listings describe the user terminal as "a high-volume manufactured product customers will have in their homes."

"These user terminals employ advanced phased-array beam-forming and digital processing technologies to make highly efficient use of Ku-band spectrum resources by supporting highly directive, steered antenna beams that track the system's low-Earth orbit satellites," SpaceX's new application says. "Consistent with SpaceX's space station authorization, these Earth stations will transmit in the 14.0-14.5 GHz band and receive in the 10.7-12.7 GHz band... SpaceX Services seeks authority to deploy and operate these Earth stations throughout the contiguous United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands."

Each user terminal "will communicate only with those SpaceX satellites that are visible on the horizon above a minimum elevation angle," the application says.

"The proposed user terminal is a flat phased array capable of steering its beams to track SpaceX's NGSO satellites passing within its field of view," the application also says. "As the terminal steers the transmitting beam, it also adjusts the power to maintain a constant level at the receiving antenna of its target satellite, compensating for variations in antenna gain and path loss associated with the steering angle."

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/spacex-seeks-fcc-ok-for-1-million-satellite-broadband-earth-stations/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 14 February 2019, 04:09:32 pm
Can anyone run that through google translate for luddite's like me?
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Thursday 14 February 2019, 04:29:39 pm
Internet from satellites, marra.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:45:07 pm
Someone will have to send the link to Elon: -

The untold story of the daring cave divers who saved the Thai soccer team

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/2019/02/national-geographic-2019-adventurers-of-the-year/thai-rescue-cave-divers/
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: thomas on Sunday 31 March 2019, 05:50:27 pm
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/436631-elon-musk-drops-surprise-rap-single-about-harambe



https://soundcloud.com/user-209448905/rip-harambe1

Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 31 March 2019, 06:30:21 pm
oh no
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 5 April 2019, 03:20:51 am
Falcon Heavy could be launching again in a week or so.  Going for engine tests and, if successful, will be launching a comms satellite.  Hopefully they'll manage to land all three boosters this time.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: loki679 on Friday 12 April 2019, 05:44:51 am
Falcon Heavy could be launching again in a week or so.  Going for engine tests and, if successful, will be launching a comms satellite.  Hopefully they'll manage to land all three boosters this time.

This will never get old. Landed all three boosters this time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1110&v=TXMGu2d8c8g
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 27 April 2019, 09:06:52 am
Apparently he's agreed to have his tweets checked by lawyers, prior to posting. The most expensive free speech, ever.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 12 May 2019, 12:21:35 am
"Elon Musk faces trial over 'pedo' tweet"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48238576
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 12 May 2019, 07:18:40 am
"Elon Musk faces trial over 'pedo' tweet"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48238576

Just another tiny example of how the BBC has gone to s***. That's a tabloid headline right there. Once upon a time the beeb wouldn't have lowered itself. This no doubt contributed to it's reputation as 'a bit stuffy', and competition for clicks has probably played a part, but there really isn't any need. But then the beeb have been obsessed with paedophilia recently.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 12 May 2019, 08:59:53 am
So what should their headline have been? It's factually correct and 'pedo' is in quotes as it's what Musk tweeted.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 12 May 2019, 10:08:48 am
So what should their headline have been? It's factually correct and 'pedo' is in quotes as it's what Musk tweeted.

Elon Musk faces trial over tweets, would have been sufficient, surely.
Title: Re: Elon Musk
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Sunday 12 May 2019, 11:48:34 am
So what should their headline have been? It's factually correct and 'pedo' is in quotes as it's what Musk tweeted.

Elon Musk faces trial over tweets, would have been sufficient, surely.

I don't see what is wrong with their headline narrowing down which tweets he was facing trial over.