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Title: On this day...
Post by: Tooj on Saturday 20 November 2010, 10:14:50 am
37 years ago - the great Tony Green was forced to retire due to injury.

According to many that witnessed him play - the best they've ever seen in a black & white shirt.

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7804/7895151879751257978619.jpg)

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We got Tudor from Sheffield and Hibbitt from Leeds, MacDonald from luton and Smith Aberdeen, but we've got the greatest the world's ever seen, we bought him from Blackpool, his name's Tony Green...
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Post by: Ishmael on Saturday 20 November 2010, 10:17:18 am
Certainly not the best looking player to grace the black and white.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 10:25:12 am
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?
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Post by: ObiChrisKenobi on Saturday 20 November 2010, 11:01:16 am
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?

With similar figures, many still say Woodgate was the best defender we had in the modern era.
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Post by: Stu on Saturday 20 November 2010, 11:12:41 am
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?

Have you seen the quality of his crossing? Immense
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Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 11:13:13 am
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?

With similar figures, many still say Woodgate was the best defender we had in the modern era.

That's a fair point to some extent. I don't agree with them, like. Albert gets the nod from me. And there's a big difference between best defender of the modern era, and best player ever.

Of course, the fans of that era could only have seen Green play a maximum of 33 games, but probably far less. We all saw Woodgate star at Leeds, and then do OK after leaving us, which contributes to his reputation.
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Post by: matta on Saturday 20 November 2010, 11:19:06 am
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?



What strikes my mind is that he tried to come back, but got setbacks, eventually found out he would'nt be able to come back. Seems like reason many players who retire early has.



edit: seems likely hargreaves might be added to that list at some point  :undecided:

edit2: fellow norwegians Haaland and Heggem might be other, not to old, examples of the same!
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Post by: Cronky on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:11:43 pm
The treatment of knee injuries then was nowhere near as sophisticated as it is now. Hence the long period of failed rehab. In all probablity, Tony Green would have recovered if he'd been playing now.

But I'd say he was the best I've seen in a Newcastle shirt. He could absolutely dominate a game.
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Post by: Incognito on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:14:37 pm
Incidentally Woodgates defending was far superior to Alberts.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:16:34 pm
Incidentally Woodgates defending was far superior to Alberts.

I thought Albert was the glue that held our defence together in an awful lot of games. I was young, though.
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Post by: themanupstairs on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:23:04 pm
Incidentally Woodgates defending was far superior to Alberts.

I thought Albert was the glue that held our defence together in an awful lot of games. I was young, though.

 Steve Howey was the main man for me. Albert was the boisterous exotic sweeper type (when fit), but if you wanted blood and thunder Howey provided it (when fit). Never forget his late late goal against Blackburn.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:23:46 pm
That goal was at home.
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Post by: themanupstairs on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:24:29 pm
That goal was at home.

 You're quite right. At the Leazes iirc.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 November 2010, 12:25:46 pm
Yep, bundled over the line. Tim Flowers responded by throwing the ball at him while in a pile-up.
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Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 21 November 2010, 11:33:21 am
Albert was a decent defender but nothing compared to Woodgate.
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Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Sunday 21 November 2010, 12:37:57 pm
Albert was a decent defender but nothing compared to Woodgate.

You wouldn't say that to his face.
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Post by: Frazzle on Sunday 21 November 2010, 12:48:42 pm
Albert was a decent defender but nothing compared to Woodgate.

Yup, Woodgate was fantastic for us.
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Post by: BooBoo on Sunday 21 November 2010, 01:06:14 pm
Albert was a decent defender but nothing compared to Woodgate.

You wouldn't say that to his face.

Shut it, or you're getting clipped next. :)
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Post by: Incognito on Sunday 21 November 2010, 01:07:20 pm
Ahem,you'll find him in the Trent :D
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Post by: binnsy on Sunday 21 November 2010, 11:45:50 pm
Find it quite astonishing that folk can say that based on 33 games. How come it took 14 months post-injury to announce his retirement?

never saw him but everyone i know who saw him raves about him.  My old man reckons he was out of this world and tells me that all the time!!    He may only have played 33 games but still plenty time to make an impression,  look at the impression we have of the likes of Tiote and Ben Arfa and they've hardly played 10 games between them.
He would never have had his career cut short if he played now,  players recover from thoses injuries nearly all the time these days or even ten years ago.
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Post by: Incognito on Monday 22 November 2010, 12:00:57 am
To think Blackpool had Tony Green and Tommy Hutchison in the same team.Hutchison couldn't half play too.
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Post by: Heneage on Monday 22 November 2010, 12:18:01 am
I'd love to have seen him play. Is there any videos of him on the net?
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Post by: lovejoy on Monday 22 November 2010, 06:49:18 am
My dad swears he was the best he saw.
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Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:09:12 am
My dad swears he was the best he saw.

Ditto.

RE thread title: I see clearllyyyyy!
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Post by: LesPaul on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:31:32 am
Does Ronaldo actually agree with anybody on anything? It's Monday but if I said so he'd probably say it's Tuesday... :/
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Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:49:01 am
Does Ronaldo actually agree with anybody on anything? It's Monday but if I said so he'd probably say it's Tuesday... :/

Where did I disagree?
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Post by: Ginola on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:53:39 am
Does Ronaldo actually agree with anybody on anything? It's Monday but if I said so he'd probably say it's Tuesday... :/

Where did I disagree?

I don't agree with them, like.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 22 November 2010, 09:56:09 am
About Woodgate being better than Albert? I could probably find 30,000+ at SJP that don't agree with that.
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Post by: Frazzle on Monday 22 November 2010, 10:03:18 am
They'd be wrong.
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Post by: Kaizero on Monday 22 November 2010, 10:05:01 am
They'd be right.
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Post by: Frazzle on Monday 22 November 2010, 10:05:59 am
They'd be right.

Albert better than Woodgate?
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Post by: OzzieMandias on Monday 22 November 2010, 10:08:32 am
Does Ronaldo actually agree with anybody on anything? It's Monday but if I said so he'd probably say it's Tuesday... :/

Where did I disagree?

I don't agree with them, like.

:lol:
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Post by: Hughesy on Monday 22 November 2010, 12:50:24 pm
Albert was not better than Woodgate.
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Post by: neesy111 on Monday 22 November 2010, 01:02:31 pm
Albert going forward was better than Woodgate, but Woodgate was a much better defender and leader at the back.
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Post by: BooBoo on Monday 22 November 2010, 01:04:26 pm
Albert better than Woodgate? Howay man. I liked Albert, he was classy and a good ball player but when it come to defending Woodgate was in another league.
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Post by: cp40 on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 02:55:21 pm
1993.   7-1 Leicester.
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Post by: Disco on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:04:57 pm
One and only time in the Paddock as we gave them the whole Leazes for some reason. Great days.
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Post by: reefatoon on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:11:13 pm
The Andy Cole song in the second half of that game was one of the loudest things I have heard at a game, was unbelievable.
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Post by: Paully on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:33:43 pm
The Andy Cole song in the second half of that game was one of the loudest things I have heard at a game, was unbelievable.

It was - bedlam!

https://youtu.be/iOAb_QI4rVs
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Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:39:01 pm
One of the best kits we've ever had.
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Post by: Heake on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:46:32 pm
One and only time in the Paddock as we gave them the whole Leazes for some reason. Great days.

It was all awash with scaffold iirc.

Heady days indeed
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Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 03:50:26 pm
The best of memories from those days. Club was being resurrected by Keegan, again, and we knew how to enjoy it.
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Post by: ScottishMagpie on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 04:12:50 pm
The Leicester game is tattooed on my memory.  What a day!  And I was just watching it on the idiot box as well!!!  Amazing how music can bring up memories (and vice versa I suppose).  That match on the season review video and the song that was played over it (Little Angels - Too Much Too Young) go together in my head like Keegan and Terry Mac. 

Ps. got to agree.... classic strip!!! 
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Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 04:19:26 pm
24 years :lol:
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Post by: reefatoon on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 04:30:10 pm
Sshhiiiiiittttt! 24 years is crazy.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 9 May 2017, 06:47:04 pm
24 years :lol:

That season is the mid point between now, and the Fairs Cup win. :lol:
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 May 2017, 09:26:01 am
I still have the programme and Tyne Tees Television script from then signed by all the players. It was an unbelievable day and probably my first stand out happy memory of supporting Newcastle as a coincidental '92-ish-er.
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 11 May 2017, 11:52:31 am
There won't be a better day until (if!) we win something!

20 years ago - dear me!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/day-newcastle-united-champions-league-13014807
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Post by: henke on Thursday 11 May 2017, 11:58:40 am
One of the best kits we've ever had.

Yup.
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Post by: cp40 on Thursday 11 May 2017, 12:03:14 pm
Jackie Milburn Born 11 May 1924 Ashington.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 11 May 2017, 12:26:00 pm
There won't be a better day until (if!) we win something!

20 years ago - dear me!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/day-newcastle-united-champions-league-13014807

Absolutely f***ing battered Forest too. Marvelous.
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 11 May 2017, 01:00:58 pm
There won't be a better day until (if!) we win something!

20 years ago - dear me!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/day-newcastle-united-champions-league-13014807

This is a great read http://www.nufc.com/html/1997-05-11forest-h.html
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Post by: Mistle17 on Thursday 11 May 2017, 03:20:15 pm
There won't be a better day until (if!) we win something!

20 years ago - dear me!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/day-newcastle-united-champions-league-13014807

This is a great read http://www.nufc.com/html/1997-05-11forest-h.html

That made me want to cry. What a great read.
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 11 May 2017, 04:36:56 pm
There won't be a better day until (if!) we win something!

20 years ago - dear me!


http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/day-newcastle-united-champions-league-13014807

This is a great read http://www.nufc.com/html/1997-05-11forest-h.html

Superb!

Yep - before mobiles and nobody near us had a radio so we waited in SJP for the results via the tannoy!

Quite sad reading the "here's to another 50 goals" about Sir Les when he was sold just a few months later - a day before Shearer banjoed his ankle at Goodison! How very NUFC!
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Post by: Cookie1892 on Thursday 11 May 2017, 04:52:12 pm
I genuinely don't know what would happen to myself and half the match going population if we actually won a cup

maybe even the league cup man
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Post by: Wallsendmag on Thursday 11 May 2017, 04:54:23 pm
The Bigg Market that night after the Forest match was unbelievable!
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 11 May 2017, 09:11:07 pm
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“It just doesn’t get any better than this.” In truth, we both knew that one day we will win the League. In truth, we both knew that one day it WILL be better than this.

But it won’t be by much.

:okay:
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 11 May 2017, 09:21:04 pm
To be fair we were on that type of trajectory, in the same way it's enevitable Man City will one day win the CL just as Chelsea did. Then they appointed Gullit... they should have went all out for Sir Bobby after KK as we would have won something I feel and even after Sir Bobby we were well primed but they went for Souness...
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Post by: Kevo on Thursday 11 May 2017, 09:36:15 pm
I genuinely don't know what would happen to myself and half the match going population if we actually won a cup

maybe even the league cup man
I think I'd need at least a week off work. London and then the town would be bouncing for days and days!
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 12 May 2017, 06:29:18 pm
Annual Jose Bosingwa appreciation day.
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 17 May 2017, 12:18:27 pm
watch?v=KHPCQW_VdP4

You know the rules marra
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Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 18 May 2017, 02:32:38 pm
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“It just doesn’t get any better than this.” In truth, we both knew that one day we will win the League. In truth, we both knew that one day it WILL be better than this.

But it won’t be by much.

:okay:

Mannnnnnnn :(
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Post by: Chase on Thursday 18 May 2017, 03:13:39 pm
To be fair we were on that type of trajectory, in the same way it's enevitable Man City will one day win the CL just as Chelsea did. Then they appointed Gullit... they should have went all out for Sir Bobby after KK as we would have won something I feel and even after Sir Bobby we were well primed but they went for Souness...

I'm sure he said that we did but he had his contract at Barcelona which he was honouring, shame for them they didn't and very soon replaced him.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 25 May 2017, 12:36:08 pm
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Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 25 May 2017, 12:41:30 pm
 :lol:
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Post by: M4 on Thursday 25 May 2017, 12:47:08 pm
Remember watching that game live. Brilliant fun indeed.

Couldn't remember the goals too well, that turn on the first one by Mendonca is class... sends the two Sunderland defenders crashing into each other :lol:
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 25 May 2017, 12:48:01 pm
MLF too, is owld Clive.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 25 May 2017, 12:52:34 pm
MLF too, is owld Clive.

Now working at Nissan.
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Post by: ujpest doza on Thursday 25 May 2017, 01:19:49 pm
I was in the Bahamas at the time and didn't see it and couldn't contact anyone who knew the score (mam and dad and inlaws were in Florida).

Eventually a kid at the casino rang his head office in Vegas to get me the score around midnight and I partied all night long.
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Post by: Incognito on Thursday 25 May 2017, 01:25:09 pm
I was in the Bahamas at the time and didn't see it and couldn't contact anyone who knew the score (mam and dad and inlaws were in Florida).

Eventually a kid at the casino rang his head office in Vegas to get me the score around midnight and I partied all night long.
Obsessed
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Post by: leffe186 on Thursday 25 May 2017, 02:19:05 pm
Remember watching that game live. Brilliant fun indeed.

Couldn't remember the goals too well, that turn on the first one by Mendonca is class... sends the two Sunderland defenders crashing into each other :lol:

Forgot how good the goals were. Even the penalties were terrific...apart from one :lol:.
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Post by: ElDiablo on Thursday 25 May 2017, 02:28:35 pm
Remember watching that game live. Brilliant fun indeed.

Couldn't remember the goals too well, that turn on the first one by Mendonca is class... sends the two Sunderland defenders crashing into each other :lol:

Forgot how good the goals were. Even the penalties were terrific...apart from one :lol:.

Poor fella looks like he hadn't kicked a ball in 10 years. WTF was he doing? :lol:
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 25 July 2017, 09:49:39 am
Eight years to the day that Leyton Orient stuck six past us.
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Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 25 July 2017, 09:59:40 am
Eight years to the day that Leyton Orient stuck six past us.

Eight years? Christ, that was the last preseason game I went too.
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 12:20:33 pm
20 years ago ( :kasper:) today Shearer snapped his ankle at Goodison..................and then we begged Sir Les to stay!
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 04:10:09 pm

Some quality finishing there
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Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 04:57:56 pm
Christ, that Mickey Gray pen was almost as bad as some of our efforts at the KC last season.
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Post by: henke on Wednesday 26 July 2017, 07:05:36 pm
Remember watching that at my mam and dad's. Me father got quite emotional, he was so happy.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 19 September 2017, 08:44:21 am
NUFC 8-0 Sheff Wed.

Memory of this day was following it on the Sunday live Sky game (think it was Spurs) and they kept showing the goals as they went in. Remember the first update being Martin Tyler describing, 'Andy Booth thought he'd put the visitors 1 up but it was ruled out, before Aaron Hughes gave the home side the lead'. Then as the eighth was being shown Andy Gray saying, 'Jesus, not another one?'. :lol:
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Post by: QuakesMag on Tuesday 19 September 2017, 06:19:15 pm
NUFC 8-0 Sheff Wed.

Memory of this day was following it on the Sunday live Sky game (think it was Spurs) and they kept showing the goals as they went in. Remember the first update being Martin Tyler describing, 'Andy Booth thought he'd put the visitors 1 up but it was ruled out, before Aaron Hughes gave the home side the lead'. Then as the eighth was being shown Andy Gray saying, 'Jesus, not another one?'. :lol:

I was at that match. Hell of a day. Other match I went to that season was the 5-0 against Southampton. I should have hired myself out as a talisman.
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Post by: manorpark on Tuesday 19 September 2017, 08:33:12 pm
37 years ago - the great Tony Green was forced to retire due to injury.

According to many that witnessed him play - the best they've ever seen in a black & white shirt.

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7804/7895151879751257978619.jpg)

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We got Tudor from Sheffield and Hibbitt from Leeds, MacDonald from luton and Smith Aberdeen, but we've got the greatest the world's ever seen, we bought him from Blackpool, his name's Tony Green...


Tony Green was one of the greatest players we have had over the last 47 years that I have been following NUFC.

I kept these newspaper cutting from that sad time in November 1973 . . .


(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Newcastle%204/Newcastle%205/TonyGreen-November1973_0002_zpsissyiys9.jpg)


(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Newcastle%204/Newcastle%205/Tony%20Green%20-%20November%201973_0003_zpsuoakoyfr.jpg)
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Newcastle%204/Newcastle%205/Tony%20Green%20-%20November%201973_0004_zpsx0fpngqi.jpg)


(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Newcastle%204/Newcastle%205/Tony%20Green%20-%20November%201973_0001_zpskim9npnm.jpg)
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 19 September 2017, 08:39:35 pm
My dad's got the programme from his testimonial. Think Bobby Charlton played for Newcastle in it.
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Post by: newsted on Wednesday 20 September 2017, 06:55:38 pm
My dad's got the programme from his testimonial. Think Bobby Charlton played for Newcastle in it.

Aye, I went to that one.
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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 20 September 2017, 07:28:29 pm
A few of the older gen I know say Green was a combination of Beardsley (quick feet etc.) and Zidane (controlling a match, strength, aura etc. on pitch). They all say with 100% absolute certainty he was the best they've ever seen in a Toon top and one guy saw Wor Jackie in his prime. Who by all accounts wasn't the best footballer, but had a lethal shot, was quick and a cool finisher. Best player based on everything I've read for us was Hughie Gallacher. Match reports, opposition comments, fan comments, stats etc. I studied that man for like 5 years and wanted to write a book about him. My f***ing hero along with KK, Kurt Cobain and Optimus Prime...

He more than anyone in our history along with KK optimises NUFC in every way. If I could time travel... 1927, the swinging 20s, NUFC about to be crowned Champions, Wee Hughie leading the line as Captain, all 5.4 of him, terrorising defenders all over the world. We once beat a crack Brazilian team 7-0 IIRC on some world tour and were regarded as the best team in world football by the entire press the world over when it came to football. Such a tragic story for Hughie.
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Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 20 September 2017, 08:35:57 pm
A few of the older gen I know say Green was a combination of Beardsley (quick feet etc.) and Zidane (controlling a match, strength, aura etc. on pitch). They all say with 100% absolute certainty he was the best they've ever seen in a Toon top and one guy saw Wor Jackie in his prime. Who by all accounts wasn't the best footballer, but had a lethal shot, was quick and a cool finisher. Best player based on everything I've read for us was Hughie Gallacher. Match reports, opposition comments, fan comments, stats etc. I studied that man for like 5 years and wanted to write a book about him. My f***ing hero along with KK, Kurt Cobain and Optimus Prime...

He more than anyone in our history along with KK optimises NUFC in every way. If I could time travel... 1927, the swinging 20s, NUFC about to be crowned Champions, Wee Hughie leading the line as Captain, all 5.4 of him, terrorising defenders all over the world. We once beat a crack Brazilian team 7-0 IIRC on some world tour and were regarded as the best team in world football by the entire press the world over when it came to football. Such a tragic story for Hughie.

I love your posts about the 20s HTT.

In regards to Green, I've heard this many a time? !
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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 20 September 2017, 09:09:56 pm
It was our golden period, by far the best team in world football. The 50s we were the Cup Kings and famously gave up on a genuine title challenge to concentrate on the FA Cup (we won) which back then was considered glamorous, and for players laden with bonuses. The league back then was a slog and not considered glamorous at all. Friendlies against exotic teams from abroad and even Ireland would often draw in bigger crowds than league games and considered more lucrative for players.

NUFC as an institution is historically a key club in the history of the game. We were heavily involved in the creation of what is now known as the modern off-side law and the play-off system.

Players would arrive at the Central Station, here a whistle and think bloody hell we aren't even on the pitch and the ref has blown for off-side. That's how good defensively we once were.

So good they changed the god damn law...

Back to Hughie Gallacher, he arrived here and no-one knew anything about him other from a few lines of press clippings so when he first took to the pitch there were audible gasps from the crowd used to 15 stone plus Albert Shepherd, a beast of a CF for us btw. Not black either TCD...

5ft 4in or whatever, they laughed and thought no chance. He would terrorise defenders, however. Kicked black and blue, but never bettered. He famously went in at half-time during one match having taking an almighty kicking and chinned a referee for not protecting him more. His retaliation was to nut meg defenders, dribble around them 3 or 4 times, and then lob the often behemoth 'keeper from 25 yards before jiggling away to the delight of 60K plus crowds who would chant his name and make him the first darling of the Gallowgate.

We sold him to Chelsea for a world record fee and our highest ever attendance to this day stands the day he returned as an opposition player. Bear in mind back then the away team got 15% of the gate... the club fiddled the true figures. I've read reports from then respected journalists who reckoned 100K attended, with thousands outside and on the roof tops of the Leazes houses.

He was a flash bugger, he would wear a genuine fur skin coat, smoke expensive cigars, swig brandy and walk around in top hat like royalty. He famously gave his coat to a beggar at the Central Station, a packet of fags and a few shillings. A hero, but a man of the people and they loved him for it.

A wominser and alcoholic he tragically killed himself jumping into a train at ironically no man's crossing in Gateshead. He threw an ashtray at his son which struck him and marked him, social services got involved and he basically couldn't live with himself. He had lost his first wife too at that stage, was a drunkard and obviously couldn't cope without football.

A tragic end for a tragic figure who for Newcastle United scored the following in the following matches:

143 goals in 174 matches

Only Andy Cole has a better goals to minutes record.

Hughie Gallacher for me is our greatest ever player.
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Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 20 September 2017, 09:19:10 pm
It was our golden period, by far the best team in world football. The 50s we were the Cup Kings and famously gave up on a genuine title challenge to concentrate on the FA Cup (we won) which back then was considered glamorous, and for players laden with bonuses. The league back then was a slog and not considered glamorous at all. Friendlies against exotic teams from abroad and even Ireland would often draw in bigger crowds than league games and considered more lucrative for players.

NUFC as an institution is historically a key club in the history of the game. We were heavily involved in the creation of what is now known as the modern off-side law and the play-off system.

Players would arrive at the Central Station, here a whistle and think bloody hell we aren't even on the pitch and the ref has blown for off-side. That's how good defensively we once were.

So good they changed the god damn law...

Back to Hughie Gallacher, he arrived here and no-one knew anything about him other from a few lines of press clippings so when he first took to the pitch there were audible gasps from the crowd used to 15 stone plus Albert Shepherd, a beast of a CF for us btw. Not black either TCD...

5ft 4in or whatever, they laughed and thought no chance. He would terrorise defenders, however. Kicked black and blue, but never bettered. He famously went in at half-time during one match having taking an almighty kicking and chinned a referee for not protecting him more. His retaliation was to nut meg defenders, dribble around them 3 or 4 times, and then lob the often behemoth 'keeper from 25 yards before jiggling away to the delight of 60K plus crowds who would chant his name and make him the first darling of the Gallowgate.

We sold him to Chelsea for a world record fee and our highest ever attendance to this day stands the day he returned as an opposition player. Bear in mind back then the away team got 15% of the gate... the club fiddled the true figures. I've read reports from then respected journalists who reckoned 100K attended, with thousands outside and on the roof tops of the Leazes houses.

He was a flash bugger, he would wear a genuine fur skin coat, smoke expensive cigars, swig brandy and walk around in top hat like royalty. He famously gave his coat to a beggar at the Central Station, a packet of fags and a few shillings. A hero, but a man of the people and they loved him for it.

A wominser and alcoholic he tragically killed himself jumping into a train at ironically no man's crossing in Gateshead. He threw an ashtray at his son which struck him and marked him, social services got involved and he basically couldn't live with himself. He had lost his first wife too at that stage, was a drunkard and obviously couldn't cope without football.

A tragic end for a tragic figure who for Newcastle United scored the following in the following matches:

143 goals in 174 matches

Only Andy Cole has a better goals to minutes record.

Hughie Gallacher for me is our greatest ever player.

Fantastic stuff. I'd buy the book if you write it!

I knew about the offside trap. Frank Hudspeth was the genius behind it IIRC. Wasn't he basically one of the first ever coaches, using a blackboard for tactics in which he designed the then offside trap?


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Post by: newsted on Friday 22 September 2017, 09:59:57 pm

Fantastic stuff. I'd buy the book if you write it!

I knew about the offside trap. Frank Hudspeth was the genius behind it IIRC. Wasn't he basically one of the first ever coaches, using a blackboard for tactics in which he designed the then offside trap?


Bill McCracken, weren't it?
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Post by: GeordieDazzler on Friday 22 September 2017, 10:24:18 pm
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Post by: madras on Saturday 23 September 2017, 01:57:51 am

Fantastic stuff. I'd buy the book if you write it!

I knew about the offside trap. Frank Hudspeth was the genius behind it IIRC. Wasn't he basically one of the first ever coaches, using a blackboard for tactics in which he designed the then offside trap?


Bill McCracken, weren't it?
Aye.
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Post by: madras on Saturday 23 September 2017, 02:04:33 am
It was our golden period, by far the best team in world football. The 50s we were the Cup Kings and famously gave up on a genuine title challenge to concentrate on the FA Cup (we won) which back then was considered glamorous, and for players laden with bonuses. The league back then was a slog and not considered glamorous at all. Friendlies against exotic teams from abroad and even Ireland would often draw in bigger crowds than league games and considered more lucrative for players.

NUFC as an institution is historically a key club in the history of the game. We were heavily involved in the creation of what is now known as the modern off-side law and the play-off system.

Players would arrive at the Central Station, here a whistle and think bloody hell we aren't even on the pitch and the ref has blown for off-side. That's how good defensively we once were.

So good they changed the god damn law...

Back to Hughie Gallacher, he arrived here and no-one knew anything about him other from a few lines of press clippings so when he first took to the pitch there were audible gasps from the crowd used to 15 stone plus Albert Shepherd, a beast of a CF for us btw. Not black either TCD...

5ft 4in or whatever, they laughed and thought no chance. He would terrorise defenders, however. Kicked black and blue, but never bettered. He famously went in at half-time during one match having taking an almighty kicking and chinned a referee for not protecting him more. His retaliation was to nut meg defenders, dribble around them 3 or 4 times, and then lob the often behemoth 'keeper from 25 yards before jiggling away to the delight of 60K plus crowds who would chant his name and make him the first darling of the Gallowgate.

We sold him to Chelsea for a world record fee and our highest ever attendance to this day stands the day he returned as an opposition player. Bear in mind back then the away team got 15% of the gate... the club fiddled the true figures. I've read reports from then respected journalists who reckoned 100K attended, with thousands outside and on the roof tops of the Leazes houses.

He was a flash bugger, he would wear a genuine fur skin coat, smoke expensive cigars, swig brandy and walk around in top hat like royalty. He famously gave his coat to a beggar at the Central Station, a packet of fags and a few shillings. A hero, but a man of the people and they loved him for it.

A wominser and alcoholic he tragically killed himself jumping into a train at ironically no man's crossing in Gateshead. He threw an ashtray at his son which struck him and marked him, social services got involved and he basically couldn't live with himself. He had lost his first wife too at that stage, was a drunkard and obviously couldn't cope without football.

A tragic end for a tragic figure who for Newcastle United scored the following in the following matches:

143 goals in 174 matches

Only Andy Cole has a better goals to minutes record.

Hughie Gallacher for me is our greatest ever player.
Greatest ever player for us ? I'd still go Colin Veitch mind and no I never saw him live.
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Post by: cubaricho on Saturday 23 September 2017, 05:28:18 am

Nice to see some real penalties being taken rather than the garbage we're served up now.
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 12:10:28 pm
Nicely summed up by .com!


2015 mackems (a)
 0-3 (0-1)
 Premier League
 Coloccini(45+1-professional foul)(later rescinded)
 Johnson(45+3pen), Jones(65), Fletcher(86)
 47,653

 Another new mackem manager used the wear-Tyne derby to register their first victory as United were again on the wrong side of a 0-3 defeat that simply defied logic and belief.

 The fact that it was former boss Sam Allardyce, made it even more galling but referee Bobby Madley's staggering decision to send off Fabricio Coloccini and award a penalty in first half stoppage completely changed the course of the game.

 The dismissal was of course later rescinded, while the spot-kick was converted by soon-to-be convicted paedophile, Adam Johnson, still allowed to play by a club that already had in its possession overwhelming evidence that would eventually see him jailed. They f***ing knew.
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Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 12:47:05 pm
It was penalty mind, wasn't a sending off though.
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Post by: BergenMagpie on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 01:03:08 pm
The penalty we didnt get 30 sec before they got theirs must be the most clear penalty not given in PL history
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 01:09:50 pm
Also a year ago on this day we hammered Preston 6-0 in the League Cup, probably one of the most dominant Newcastle performances I've ever seen, even when it was 11 v 11. Up there with the best performances I've seen at SJP live.
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Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 05:35:49 pm
Also a year ago on this day we hammered Preston 6-0 in the League Cup, probably one of the most dominant Newcastle performances I've ever seen, even when it was 11 v 11. Up there with the best performances I've seen at SJP live.

Wasn't there but that was such a class game and result, really epitomised the upturn in mood from from the previous two-three years. 50k for a League Cup game, having paid a reasonable price to get in, and a resounding battering of a team we were so far beyond, even though we shared a division with them. Great stuff.
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Post by: Dave on Wednesday 25 October 2017, 11:44:47 pm
The last goal in that game was our 40th of the season. :lol:
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Post by: Decky on Thursday 26 October 2017, 12:19:00 am
I remember how mad I was that day. We absolutely battered them. Come to think of it didn't the same thing happen the day Tiote got sent off at their place a couple of years before that and we ended up throwing away the 3 points? Lucky b******s.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 26 October 2017, 01:31:29 pm
7 years since Paul the Octopus sadly passed away. RIP big man.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 26 October 2017, 01:47:13 pm

[emoji38]
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 26 October 2017, 03:40:35 pm
It was our golden period, by far the best team in world football. The 50s we were the Cup Kings and famously gave up on a genuine title challenge to concentrate on the FA Cup (we won) which back then was considered glamorous, and for players laden with bonuses. The league back then was a slog and not considered glamorous at all. Friendlies against exotic teams from abroad and even Ireland would often draw in bigger crowds than league games and considered more lucrative for players.

NUFC as an institution is historically a key club in the history of the game. We were heavily involved in the creation of what is now known as the modern off-side law and the play-off system.

Players would arrive at the Central Station, here a whistle and think bloody hell we aren't even on the pitch and the ref has blown for off-side. That's how good defensively we once were.

So good they changed the god damn law...

Back to Hughie Gallacher, he arrived here and no-one knew anything about him other from a few lines of press clippings so when he first took to the pitch there were audible gasps from the crowd used to 15 stone plus Albert Shepherd, a beast of a CF for us btw. Not black either TCD...

5ft 4in or whatever, they laughed and thought no chance. He would terrorise defenders, however. Kicked black and blue, but never bettered. He famously went in at half-time during one match having taking an almighty kicking and chinned a referee for not protecting him more. His retaliation was to nut meg defenders, dribble around them 3 or 4 times, and then lob the often behemoth 'keeper from 25 yards before jiggling away to the delight of 60K plus crowds who would chant his name and make him the first darling of the Gallowgate.

We sold him to Chelsea for a world record fee and our highest ever attendance to this day stands the day he returned as an opposition player. Bear in mind back then the away team got 15% of the gate... the club fiddled the true figures. I've read reports from then respected journalists who reckoned 100K attended, with thousands outside and on the roof tops of the Leazes houses.

He was a flash bugger, he would wear a genuine fur skin coat, smoke expensive cigars, swig brandy and walk around in top hat like royalty. He famously gave his coat to a beggar at the Central Station, a packet of fags and a few shillings. A hero, but a man of the people and they loved him for it.

A wominser and alcoholic he tragically killed himself jumping into a train at ironically no man's crossing in Gateshead. He threw an ashtray at his son which struck him and marked him, social services got involved and he basically couldn't live with himself. He had lost his first wife too at that stage, was a drunkard and obviously couldn't cope without football.

A tragic end for a tragic figure who for Newcastle United scored the following in the following matches:

143 goals in 174 matches

Only Andy Cole has a better goals to minutes record.

Hughie Gallacher for me is our greatest ever player.
Greatest ever player for us ? I'd still go Colin Veitch mind and no I never saw him live.

You are probably right, but Gallacher probably epitomises our club more than any other player in the club's history.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 29 October 2017, 03:41:15 pm
Three years ago today we beat City at the Etihad with a front six of Ryan Taylor, Obertan, Colback, Abeid, Aarons and Armstrong.
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Post by: Robster on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:06:52 pm
Three years ago today we beat City at the Etihad with a front six of Ryan Taylor, Obertan, Colback, Abeid, Aarons and Armstrong.
The "He's here forever" post :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Disco on Sunday 29 October 2017, 09:10:52 pm
Pardew was so f***ing s**** he couldn't even throw a game without f***ing it up. f***ing snake selling c***.
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:30:25 pm
Three years ago today we beat City at the Etihad with a front six of Ryan Taylor, Obertan, Colback, Abeid, Aarons and Armstrong.
The "He's here forever" post :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Someone find it and hoy it up again, I can't.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:36:53 pm
Three years ago today we beat City at the Etihad with a front six of Ryan Taylor, Obertan, Colback, Abeid, Aarons and Armstrong.
The "He's here forever" post :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Someone find it and hoy it up again, I can't.

(http://i.imgur.com/S26VnXc.png)
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Post by: Robster on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:38:50 pm
:lol:
Amazing.
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Post by: Nobody on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:46:13 pm
Perfection :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:46:35 pm
 :lol: :lol: :lol: holy s*** man
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Post by: M4 on Sunday 29 October 2017, 10:49:56 pm
Oh my god... I had never seen that before!

[emoji38] unbelievably perfect.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Sunday 29 October 2017, 11:19:54 pm
It's N-O Hall of Fame level like. I'm sure it won post of the year.
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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 30 October 2017, 08:05:51 am
Mint that like 👍
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 11:14:04 am
Happy seventh anniversary everyone xxxx
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 10:56:16 pm
:smitten:

heres a quick summary for anyone who didnt see the match.






                                      ;D
                               ;D ;D ;D ;D
                               ;D ;D ;D ;D
                                    ;D ;D

                                        v
                                         
                                        :weep:







                          :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
                                             :crazy2:
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Post by: Robster on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 11:16:12 pm
:lol:
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 31 October 2017, 11:18:28 pm
It's always been Mignolet's face at the end which got me. :lol:
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Monday 13 November 2017, 02:04:56 pm
2-3 at Feyenoord 15 years ago today.
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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 13 November 2017, 02:44:23 pm
What a f***ing night that was!  Unbelievable!
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Post by: Paully on Monday 13 November 2017, 03:11:38 pm
2-3 at Feyenoord 15 years ago today.

My favourite ever NUFC match…………….”BELLAMY, IT’S IN!”

Four days in the Dam – what a trip!
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 13 November 2017, 03:22:58 pm
Still #1 for me. Never forget.
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Post by: Mikky on Monday 13 November 2017, 03:35:04 pm
Who won the CL that season? AC Milan?
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Post by: shakey jake on Monday 13 November 2017, 03:41:12 pm
Who won the CL that season? AC Milan?

Yeah on pens at old trafford v juve i think
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Monday 13 November 2017, 03:50:50 pm
2-3 at Feyenoord 15 years ago today.

15 years! god!

One game I missed that I most wish I was at. Got dropped by my boy's club for skipping training to watch it on telly. That split second sinking feeling when Dyer missed it. BELLAMY. Great commentary too.
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Post by: Disco on Monday 13 November 2017, 04:13:23 pm
"Oh Newcastle, be careful"
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Monday 13 November 2017, 04:31:35 pm
"LLLLLURLING. And now Feyenoord have the scent of the Champions League 2nd phase place up their nostrils"
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Post by: M4 on Monday 13 November 2017, 04:44:26 pm
15 years, holy f***.

My dad had to go out for a walk after they brought it back to 2-2. Luckily he was back in time :lol:
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Post by: Kevo on Monday 13 November 2017, 05:47:19 pm
I was 9. All I can remember is standing on my bed singing Newcastle songs then doing a lap of the house when Bellamy scored that goal. It was quickly followed by my Mam saying if I don't shut up she will turn the TV off.

It's those little things that stick in the memory..  :smitten:
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Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 14 November 2017, 12:03:45 am
Best game I have watched. It meant so much at the time.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 12:42:34 pm
http://www.nufc.com/html/2015-16html/2015-11-21leicester-h.html

We lost to Leicester at home 0-3 in an utterly dire performance. Fans against each other, discontent, s**** team, awful circumstances. Felt like Ashley was gonna be here until he died. 2 years on the club is now unrecognisable to what it was then. At least in some fashion. This takeover gets finished the Ashley years are probably going to be looked back on and recited as probably the worst period in this club's history. I wasn't around for the period 1988-1991 but surely the apathy and disgusting way the club has been run fans have had to endure under Ashley is worse?
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Post by: Bizza on Tuesday 21 November 2017, 01:25:52 pm
10 years ago today:

(http://du8znpjowa92.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-wally-with-the-brolly.jpg)
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Post by: Cookie1892 on Friday 24 November 2017, 01:59:31 pm
interesting

some fat spanish waiter in charge of liverpool

http://www.nufc.com/html/2007-08html/2007-11-24liverpool-h.html
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 24 November 2017, 02:05:12 pm
I remember that game. Was horrendously hungover sat behind the dugouts. The boos when N'Zogbia went off and the laughing and further boos when Smith was named Man of the Match. :lol:
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 24 November 2017, 02:19:47 pm
Was only young when that debacle happened, but I remember the side shot of Allardyce on the TV when it was 0-3 towards the end of the game and the fans next to the dugout shouting deserved dog's abuse at the fat c***.

Kinda shows how much Ashley has driven the fanbase into apathy in the past, the vitriol aimed at Allardyce and the atmosphere as a whole was utterly toxic, and the closest we've came to that is a dilute version in McClaren's final game v Bournemouth. Not the other Liverpool humiliations or mackem defeats.
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Post by: Kaizero on Friday 24 November 2017, 02:20:43 pm
Holy f*** you’re young.
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Post by: Cookie1892 on Friday 24 November 2017, 02:34:48 pm
Was only young when that debacle happened, but I remember the side shot of Allardyce on the TV when it was 0-3 towards the end of the game and the fans next to the dugout shouting deserved dog's abuse at the fat c***.

Kinda shows how much Ashley has driven the fanbase into apathy in the past, the vitriol aimed at Allardyce and the atmosphere as a whole was utterly toxic, and the closest we've came to that is a dilute version in McClaren's final game v Bournemouth. Not the other Liverpool humiliations or mackem defeats.

Ashley had only been there a few weeks man, we thought he was decent then ha
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Post by: Dave on Friday 24 November 2017, 10:34:05 pm
interesting

some fat spanish waiter in charge of liverpool

http://www.nufc.com/html/2007-08html/2007-11-24liverpool-h.html


Nicky Butt: This is our acid test

:thup:
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Post by: Dave on Friday 24 November 2017, 10:37:54 pm
Quote
In his pre-match press conference, Benitez had repeated the phrase: "I am only focused on training and coaching my team" in response to virtually every question asked of him - a reference to his ongoing feud with the club's American owners.

They are reputed to have reminded him of the extent of his responsibilities using that terminology when Benitez sought assurances regarding the availability of transfer funds next January and the need to put deals in place now with agents ahead of the next opening of the transfer window.

:laugh:
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Post by: TheGuv on Saturday 25 November 2017, 07:13:27 am
Was only young when that debacle happened, but I remember the side shot of Allardyce on the TV when it was 0-3 towards the end of the game and the fans next to the dugout shouting deserved dog's abuse at the fat c***.

Kinda shows how much Ashley has driven the fanbase into apathy in the past, the vitriol aimed at Allardyce and the atmosphere as a whole was utterly toxic, and the closest we've came to that is a dilute version in McClaren's final game v Bournemouth. Not the other Liverpool humiliations or mackem defeats.

Ashley had only been there a few weeks man, we thought he was decent then ha

I think the point he’s making is ten years ago there was still a hell of a lot of passion within the fan base. Which now doesn’t exist to the same extent.

I remember the abuse Souness, Roeder and Allardyce and latterly Wise et al received because we knew we deserved better. You forget we were quite used to being half decent then.

So many of those Allardyce performances were turgid. Even the victories! My god, Liverpool, Portsmouth and Derby at home still invoke anger to this day :lol:
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Saturday 25 November 2017, 07:40:39 am
Was only young when that debacle happened, but I remember the side shot of Allardyce on the TV when it was 0-3 towards the end of the game and the fans next to the dugout shouting deserved dog's abuse at the fat c***.

Kinda shows how much Ashley has driven the fanbase into apathy in the past, the vitriol aimed at Allardyce and the atmosphere as a whole was utterly toxic, and the closest we've came to that is a dilute version in McClaren's final game v Bournemouth. Not the other Liverpool humiliations or mackem defeats.

Ashley had only been there a few weeks man, we thought he was decent then ha

I think the point he’s making is ten years ago there was still a hell of a lot of passion within the fan base. Which now doesn’t exist to the same extent.

I remember the abuse Souness, Roeder and Allardyce and latterly Wise et al received because we knew we deserved better. You forget we were quite used to being half decent then.

So many of those Allardyce performances were turgid. Even the victories! My god, Liverpool, Portsmouth and Derby at home still invoke anger to this day :lol:

Yep, I couldn't believe the kind of apathetic passiveness we've had recently, especially during Pardews terrible runs, losing 6-0 to Liverpool, the mackems defeats etc. Games like when we lost to Sheff Utd under Roeder the crowd were so toxic, it was a horrible place to be, but there was a passion
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Monday 27 November 2017, 12:24:15 pm
Inter Milan pummelled us at SJP in the Champions League 15 years ago today.
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Post by: Incognito on Monday 27 November 2017, 12:42:56 pm
6 years since Gary Speed's passing today. According to my FB timeline thingy anyhow. [emoji17]
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 27 November 2017, 12:45:45 pm
Inter Milan pummelled us at SJP in the Champions League 15 years ago today.

Bloke I used to have my seat next to turned up 10 minutes late and refused to believe Bellamy was sent off and we were 1-0 down. Only when we insisted he counted our players did it dawn on him.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:08:17 pm
King Kev on the steps at SJP keeping his disciples calm 23 years ago  :kasper:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTMB8OuWkAA8ucA.jpg:large)
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:09:21 pm
Ah Christ. I'll never forget going into school that day and my teacher telling us. I think about three of us immediately burst into tears. :lol:
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Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:13:16 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:14:06 pm
Around 100m and Keith Gillespie
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Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:15:27 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:17:46 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:19:16 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.

There was one miss in particular vs Nottingham Forest that I honestly couldn't believe he missed. Kitson probably wasn't that bad a player, but among that lot he stood out like a sore thumb as nowhere near good enough. We'd probably kill for a striker like him now. :lol:
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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:21:01 pm
King Kev on the steps at SJP keeping his disciples calm 23 years ago  :kasper:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTMB8OuWkAA8ucA.jpg:large)

Ah the day I cried! I’ve never been more gutted with NUFC and football than that day, my idol, hero and for me one of the most important players in our history.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:23:24 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:24:10 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.

There was one miss in particular vs Nottingham Forest that I honestly couldn't believe he missed. Kitson probably wasn't that bad a player, but among that lot he stood out like a sore thumb as nowhere near good enough. We'd probably kill for a striker like him now. :lol:

True true.  Saying that though, he suffered from the same mysterious problem as a lot of other crap strikers we have had in recent times, of not being able to strike a ball with any conviction. Remember so many times watching weak as p*ss efforts, slowly rolling to the keeper.  You are right though, he probably wasn't as bad as that, but nowhere near Cole or Beardsley.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:25:53 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:27:27 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.

Yet cost less than half a Shearer.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:28:00 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:34:03 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.

Yet cost less than half a Shearer.

...under completely different circumstances. It was 18 months earlier, Cole was becoming a problem and he wanted away, Gillespie was included, it was mid-season. It was seen as a deal worth around £9m at the time with Gillespie included. Shearer came in having won the league with Blackburn, and winning the golden boot at Euro '96. We also had to pay £15m to get Shearer because Man United and Barcelona were after him at the same time. Trust me, Cole was seriously hot s***.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:35:47 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

For most of our generation it was our baptism of s*** from NUFC. :lol:
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:36:40 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.

Yet cost less than half a Shearer.

Not a fair comparison tbh, fees were accelerating pretty quickly at that time.

(https://i.imgur.com/TokhjHq.png)

Reckon Cole would have fetched 10 to 12 million in summer 1996, not as valuable as Shearer but certainly not half as valuable.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:39:40 pm
41 goals in the season before man. We will never get to see that kind of strike rate again. The bloke was a machine and that first season up was just an absolute joy to sit through.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:50:04 pm
55 in 70 in the league - (no pens - well - one but he missed it!) -  I'm sure he didn't scored one in his last 12 too  :kasper:

13 in 14 in the Cups

Unreal!
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 03:53:45 pm
On this day in 2017 Mike Ashley was a c***.

and every day before and since
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:41:28 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

For most of our generation it was our baptism of s*** from NUFC. :lol:

:lol: I love the stories, tbh.

"Ah was gannin hyem and some gadgie doon the shops said "They've only gone and flogged Cole, the t***s!" and I was like "Howay ya daft auld s****" but when I got home me da was in the garage with his heed in his hands and I knew it was true, like."
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:43:50 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

For most of our generation it was our baptism of s*** from NUFC. :lol:

:lol: I love the stories, tbh.

"Ah was gannin hyem and some gadgie doon the shops said "They've only gone and flogged Cole, the t***s!" and I was like "Howay ya daft auld s****" but when I got home me da was in the garage with his heed in his hands and I knew it was true, like."

(https://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/geordienew1_3588857b.jpg)
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:45:14 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:46:17 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

You have to remember fans were so used to seeing the club's best players (often their heroes and idols) sold to the 'bigger' clubs. The day Keegan walked into the club he said those days were over and then we sell Cole to Man Utd of all clubs. A club who he said when we went up we were gunning for in regards to their title.

Andy Cole was massive at the time, a young black kid wearing the number 9 with a smile and scoring goals for fun. If KK united a city behind their club, Cole united a fanbase behind their hero, him.  He was absolutely idolised by everyone. Old men, old women, bairns, even racists.

That chant man at home to Leicester...

They were the very best of days for us as a club and probably for them players who played in those teams. Cole went on to score loads more and win lots of stuff, but he would never ever play with that wanton abandon again in terms of being free to do what he wanted on the pitch, same with all of them.

Me, I absolutely idolised the man. When we played footy as kids we all wanted to be him, kids used their pocket money just to trade his Premier League sticker (I could never afford him) and for me personally I was so upset when we sold him. I honestly thought that was the end of the dream with NUFC. KK who I also idolised, how could he do that to me? Sell my idol to Man Utd?

I never hated Man Utd at the time, I was a kid just getting into football and loved watching Giggs, Cantona etc. but KK said they were our rivals and we had to be better than them.

Cole gets a bit of flack for singing the anti-KK song at Wembley and it disappointed me. But I've since heard him say nothing but great stuff about his time here, KK himself and the area so he remains a huge huge fave of mine and easily one of the very best players to pull on our shirt.

How much would he be worth today? 100m + easily.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:47:16 pm
:lol: You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

For most of our generation it was our baptism of s*** from NUFC. :lol:

:lol: I love the stories, tbh.

"Ah was gannin hyem and some gadgie doon the shops said "They've only gone and flogged Cole, the t***s!" and I was like "Howay ya daft auld s****" but when I got home me da was in the garage with his heed in his hands and I knew it was true, like."

:lol: f***ing hell, you've been on here too long.

It happened in the morning iirc. I was told when I arrived at school and had an emotional breakdown that's lasted 23 years.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:49:38 pm
[emoji38] You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

You have to remember fans were so used to seeing the club's best players (often their heroes and idols) sold to the 'bigger' clubs. The day Keegan walked into the club he said those days were over and then we sell Cole to Man Utd of all clubs. A club who he said when we went up we were gunning for in regards to their title.

Andy Cole was massive at the time, a young black kid wearing the number 9 with a smile and scoring goals for fun. If KK united a city behind their club, Cole united a fanbase behind their hero, him.  He was absolutely idolised by everyone. Old men, old women, bairns, even racists.

That chant man at home to Leicester...

They were the very best of days for us as a club and probably for them players who played in those teams. Cole went on to score loads more and win lots of stuff, but he would never ever play with that wanton abandon again in terms of being free to do what he wanted on the pitch, same with all of them.

Me, I absolutely idolised the man. When we played footy as kids we all wanted to be him, kids used their pocket money just to trade his Premier League sticker (I could never afford him) and for me personally I was so upset when we sold him. I honestly thought that was the end of the dream with NUFC. KK who I also idolised, how could he do that to me? Sell my idol to Man Utd?

I never hated Man Utd at the time, I was a kid just getting into football and loved watching Giggs, Cantona etc. but KK said they were our rivals and we had to be better than them.

Cole gets a bit of flack for singing the anti-KK song at Wembley and it disappointed me. But I've since heard him say nothing but great stuff about his time here, KK himself and the area so he remains a huge huge fave of mine and easily one of the very best players to pull on our shirt.

How much would he be worth today? 100m + easily.
:aww: I didn't deserve a response this good. Great post.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:55:04 pm
I was at school, one of those rare days I actually attended and our teacher used to have a radio on pretty low in the background and it came on the radio and all hell broke loose. That lesson whatever it was didn't get finished and I remember bunking off the rest of the day moping around gutted and angry. When I went home and looked at my Andy Cole poster on the wall from the pink I cried. Next week was a blur and the I lost interest in the rest of the season as we stumbled to sixth. The following season though... Sir Les who even as a kid I understood to be a much better all-round CF than Cole and I too idolised him, but not in the same was as Cole. I followed Cole's career for a time at Man Utd and always wanted him to do well unless against us.

KK has since said the reason he sold him was because the player himself struggled with the attention, was having family problems at home and would never ever be as good as he was in his first full season with us and although he did want to change how we played, he said Cole was good enough to play in any of his sides and any way he wanted us to play.

Looking back his game was actually very underrated, he was immense in the air and a clinical finisher with either foot.

I think Fergie obviously wanted such a capable goalscorer, but I also believe he wanted him away from us more than anything or just as much.

The board when KK said he wanted to sell Cole :lol: You deal with the fall out... and he did  :love:
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 04:55:30 pm
[emoji38] You guys always talk about the Cole thing like it was the day MLK was shot.

You have to remember fans were so used to seeing the club's best players (often their heroes and idols) sold to the 'bigger' clubs. The day Keegan walked into the club he said those days were over and then we sell Cole to Man Utd of all clubs. A club who he said when we went up we were gunning for in regards to their title.

Andy Cole was massive at the time, a young black kid wearing the number 9 with a smile and scoring goals for fun. If KK united a city behind their club, Cole united a fanbase behind their hero, him.  He was absolutely idolised by everyone. Old men, old women, bairns, even racists.

That chant man at home to Leicester...

They were the very best of days for us as a club and probably for them players who played in those teams. Cole went on to score loads more and win lots of stuff, but he would never ever play with that wanton abandon again in terms of being free to do what he wanted on the pitch, same with all of them.

Me, I absolutely idolised the man. When we played footy as kids we all wanted to be him, kids used their pocket money just to trade his Premier League sticker (I could never afford him) and for me personally I was so upset when we sold him. I honestly thought that was the end of the dream with NUFC. KK who I also idolised, how could he do that to me? Sell my idol to Man Utd?

I never hated Man Utd at the time, I was a kid just getting into football and loved watching Giggs, Cantona etc. but KK said they were our rivals and we had to be better than them.

Cole gets a bit of flack for singing the anti-KK song at Wembley and it disappointed me. But I've since heard him say nothing but great stuff about his time here, KK himself and the area so he remains a huge huge fave of mine and easily one of the very best players to pull on our shirt.

How much would he be worth today? 100m + easily.
:aww: I didn't deserve a response this good. Great post.

Course you do man :D
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: LionOfGosforth on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 05:06:29 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.

There was one miss in particular vs Nottingham Forest that I honestly couldn't believe he missed. Kitson probably wasn't that bad a player, but among that lot he stood out like a sore thumb as nowhere near good enough. We'd probably kill for a striker like him now. :lol:

True true.  Saying that though, he suffered from the same mysterious problem as a lot of other crap strikers we have had in recent times, of not being able to strike a ball with any conviction. Remember so many times watching weak as p*ss efforts, slowly rolling to the keeper.  You are right though, he probably wasn't as bad as that, but nowhere near Cole or Beardsley.

I quite liked Kitson, looked good at Leicester and Derby and I was pleased when he signed. I do recall he made super intelligent runs in behind defenders but his all round game wasn't much cop. He missed from about 1 yard out against Arsenal (think it was the game when Beardsley won it with a last minute screamer from distance), trundling a sad shot straight at Seaman I remember and a bloke behind me screamed "Hoo Kitson, I coulda put that in with me knob!!!"
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 05:08:47 pm
By the way I didn't want to bring his skin color into it or get all political, but we were just coming out of the 80s, an era where the National Front was active inside and outside of the stadium and the BNP was getting a foothold on local politics or communities. Although there were black people and families in Newcastle, they were not common. There was a far bigger Asian communit for example so a black person was quite rare.

Cole for me, transcended all of that because for the first time ever in Newcastle anyway, here was a black man, a young black man, in a very Northern city were racism was still quite strong, more so at football and within that part of society, and he really was the king.

Idolised by all. Cole himself who was obviously used to racism growing up was taken aback by it all. He couldn't quite believe it. I think in many respects he was socially just as important to the then psyche of the city and its people as much as he was to the club and I'd like to think he played a role in helping change attitudes towards black people and basically people that were not white, at then time especially.

And why was he idolised? Because in him we all thought we had the best player in the world, certainly the best goalscorer. A number 9, he was 21 or something and he was going to be ours for keeps. Andy Andy Cole, he gets the ball and scores a goal, Andy Andy Cole.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 05:09:43 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.

There was one miss in particular vs Nottingham Forest that I honestly couldn't believe he missed. Kitson probably wasn't that bad a player, but among that lot he stood out like a sore thumb as nowhere near good enough. We'd probably kill for a striker like him now. :lol:

True true.  Saying that though, he suffered from the same mysterious problem as a lot of other crap strikers we have had in recent times, of not being able to strike a ball with any conviction. Remember so many times watching weak as p*ss efforts, slowly rolling to the keeper.  You are right though, he probably wasn't as bad as that, but nowhere near Cole or Beardsley.

I quite liked Kitson, looked good at Leicester and Derby and I was pleased when he signed. I do recall he made super intelligent runs in behind defenders but his all round game wasn't much cop. He missed from about 1 yard out against Arsenal (think it was the game when Beardsley won it with a last minute screamer from distance), trundling a sad shot straight at Seaman I remember and a bloke behind me screamed "Hoo Kitson, I coulda put that in with me knob!!!"

He was a decent player and I was quite excited when we bought him as he was highly rated, but he wasn't suited to KK's team or way of playing at all.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: LionOfGosforth on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 05:14:38 pm
Selling Cole was devastating and made all the more painful having to watch Kitson try to fill his boots for the rest of the season.

There was one miss in particular vs Nottingham Forest that I honestly couldn't believe he missed. Kitson probably wasn't that bad a player, but among that lot he stood out like a sore thumb as nowhere near good enough. We'd probably kill for a striker like him now. :lol:

True true.  Saying that though, he suffered from the same mysterious problem as a lot of other crap strikers we have had in recent times, of not being able to strike a ball with any conviction. Remember so many times watching weak as p*ss efforts, slowly rolling to the keeper.  You are right though, he probably wasn't as bad as that, but nowhere near Cole or Beardsley.

I quite liked Kitson, looked good at Leicester and Derby and I was pleased when he signed. I do recall he made super intelligent runs in behind defenders but his all round game wasn't much cop. He missed from about 1 yard out against Arsenal (think it was the game when Beardsley won it with a last minute screamer from distance), trundling a sad shot straight at Seaman I remember and a bloke behind me screamed "Hoo Kitson, I coulda put that in with me knob!!!"

He was a decent player and I was quite excited when we bought him as he was highly rated, but he wasn't suited to KK's team or way of playing at all.

No but the potential was there. I recall he faffed around before signing, initially turning us down over wages iirc.

Mirror headline after he left without signing "IT'S PAUL TWITSON"  :lol:

Didn't work out, but surrounded by Beardsley et al, he could have improved in time. Think his debut was home to Sheff Wed and he took the ball flush in the mush and had to be substituted. Thought he was a fanny for that like.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Altamullan on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:09:36 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Not sure about that like. It's not as if he kept Shearer out of the England line-up; not even next in line.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:32:29 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Not sure about that like. It's not as if he kept Shearer out of the England line-up; not even next in line.

He was like, Shearer was still recovering from a major injury and don't use his lack of England senior appearances as an indicator of his worth at the time as back then younger players tended to gain their stripes in the under 21s before getting into the senior side.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:38:23 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Not sure about that like. It's not as if he kept Shearer out of the England line-up; not even next in line.
Nor did Wright, Ferdinand, Fowler or the other brilliant strikers England had then. Cole was constantly mentioned as someone who should be playing for England at the time as well, with Rob Lee getting his first cap along with the obligatory 'but still no place for Andy Cole'' mentioned afterwards.  Cole had just scored over 40 goals in a newly promoted side. At the time of Cole being sold he was in the same bracket imo.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Altamullan on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:38:26 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Not sure about that like. It's not as if he kept Shearer out of the England line-up; not even next in line.

He was like, Shearer was still recovering from a major injury and don't use his lack of England senior appearances as an indicator of his worth at the time as back then younger players tended to gain their stripes in the under 21s before getting into the senior side.
Nah. Cole had one England B appearance and relatively few senior appearances. For a direct comparison with a contemporary from the same nation, why not use (amongst other things) whether this 'equally valuable' player kept their equally valuable counterpart out of the Striker berth. I was a big fan of Cole (right until the 'fat Geordie b******' singing about Keegan) but Shearer was twice the player (almost literally if by value you're only talking transfer fees).
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:44:31 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.
Not sure about that like. It's not as if he kept Shearer out of the England line-up; not even next in line.

He was like, Shearer was still recovering from a major injury and don't use his lack of England senior appearances as an indicator of his worth at the time as back then younger players tended to gain their stripes in the under 21s before getting into the senior side.
Nah. Cole had one England B appearance and relatively few senior appearances. For a direct comparison with a contemporary from the same nation, why not use (amongst other things) whether this 'equally valuable' player kept their equally valuable counterpart out of the Striker berth. I was a big fan of Cole (right until the 'fat Geordie b******' singing about Keegan) but Shearer was twice the player (almost literally if by value you're only talking transfer fees).

No-one is denying Shearer was the better player, but Cole was the record transfer fee at the time and was worth just as much, the same or more than Shearer when we sold him regardless of who was the better player. He was literally the hottest property in England and one of the hottest in the world.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:44:53 pm
You're making a worthless point tbh, Venables had a preference for Shearer and he tied down the place. Using that as a measure of a player is just daft. Hindsight shows that Shearer was the better player, but we're talking about at the time Cole was sold.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:49:42 pm
You're making a worthless point tbh, Venables had a preference for Shearer and he tied down the place. Using that as a measure of a player is just daft. Hindsight shows that Shearer was the better player, but we're talking about at the time Cole was sold.


No-one could get into the side ahead of Shearer and England had arguably the best pool of strikers, forwards and goalscorers in the world at the time.

I stand by my view that Andy Cole when we sold him was the most valuable player in the league. Lets not forget KK has since said he valued Gillespie at 4m or that's how much he would have bid for him - at the time.

Shearer was the best striker in the country at the time, but he was recovering from injury, slightly older and not available at any price until we smashed the world record fee for him.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 06:56:52 pm
I remember the caretaker at school telling me and I didn't believe him, absolutely broke my heart as a 9 year old.

Also whenever you hear Cole speak it's like he never played for us. He never mentions what KK did for him and all you hear is how good it was to play with Dwight Yorke and there's never anything about Beardsley in there (he probably racially abused him now come to think of it). Either way I think Cole's a c***.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:01:13 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.

Yet cost less than half a Shearer.
I hope you're intentionally being flippant here.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:07:36 pm
I remember the caretaker at school telling me and I didn't believe him, absolutely broke my heart as a 9 year old.

Also whenever you hear Cole speak it's like he never played for us. He never mentions what KK did for him and all you hear is how good it was to play with Dwight Yorke and there's never anything about Beardsley in there (he probably racially abused him now come to think of it). Either way I think Cole's a c***.

He has given a few interviews and did a few talk ins where he has had nothing but praise for us, KK etc. He was here a short spell and while he was hugely successful I think personally it wasn't the best time for him. I've forgave him for the singing, I just think he was taken in by the moment and went along with it.

As a player on and off the pitch when he was with us... WOW! Again I loved the man and he still holds a soft spot in my heart for him.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:10:14 pm
£7m

How much would we get for him today?

Around whatever Jaime Vardy is values at I guess.

Nearer Kane than Vardy. Cole was a more well-rounded player with a much better goal scoring record. Cole was also 23 at the time, whereas Vardy's 30.

Feel like Shearer = Kane, so Cole would be someone worth half a Shearer/Kane.

No way, Cole was the hottest property in the league when we sold him. Just as valuable as Shearer.

Yet cost less than half a Shearer.
I hope you're intentionally being flippant here.

2 years later after a 36 goal campaign and top scorer in the Euros and with a new TV deal and extra CL spot opened up...

Cole would have went for a similar figure if Man Utd looked to sell him then which they may well have done had they secured Shearer. I remember Villa, Spurs, Liverpool and Arsenal all linked with him not long after we signed Shearer for fees in the same kind of bracket.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:12:50 pm
Looking back I still think we undersold him, given we paid 6m for Sir Les the following summer and Collymore went for 7.5m. I think that's more down to the fact KK badly wanted Gillespie though who KK obviously valued highly and you could see why. He wanted that head of Sir Les' to be crossed into on the wings to do what he did best, leap, head, goal.
Title: Re: On this day...
Post by: Paully on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:29:26 pm
Love this photo!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/9e548fc2841ff55c305ce8caa8620358.jpg)
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Post by: Tooj on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:43:46 pm
What a man.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 07:44:49 pm
I remember the caretaker at school telling me and I didn't believe him, absolutely broke my heart as a 9 year old.

Also whenever you hear Cole speak it's like he never played for us. He never mentions what KK did for him and all you hear is how good it was to play with Dwight Yorke and there's never anything about Beardsley in there (he probably racially abused him now come to think of it). Either way I think Cole's a c***.

He has given a few interviews and did a few talk ins where he has had nothing but praise for us, KK etc. He was here a short spell and while he was hugely successful I think personally it wasn't the best time for him. I've forgave him for the singing, I just think he was taken in by the moment and went along with it.

As a player on and off the pitch when he was with us... WOW! Again I loved the man and he still holds a soft spot in my heart for him.
In his XI on Sky it was all Man United players apart from Beardsley like. He didn't have much time to talk about it, but obviously said he was brilliant. I'm with Tooj though, he doesn't give anywhere near enough credit to Keegan and his time here imo. Whenever he talks about being here it's nigh on always about the attention being too much for him and his wife (saying that like, living in Crook was a mental choice [emoji38]) and it's all kind of fleeting comments before getting back to wanking off Man United.
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Post by: Disco on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 08:21:02 pm
He lived in Crook? The f***?
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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 08:24:06 pm
Didn't KK advise him to keep away from the City centre? A short time later Tino... :lol:
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Post by: chopey on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 08:24:36 pm
He lived in Crook? The f***?

At first, then he moved to an apartment in Jesmond, my mate installed his mirror in his newly black and white tiled bathroom the week before he left.
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Post by: Robster on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 08:28:01 pm
What a man.
The best.
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Post by: Greg on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 08:40:22 pm
Cole had a flat in Gosforth opposite the The Three Mile at one point but spent most of his time in a place in Jesmond.
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Post by: Greg on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 09:02:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9UHcRrCWlI
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Post by: Altamullan on Wednesday 10 January 2018, 10:00:23 pm
You're making a worthless point tbh, Venables had a preference for Shearer and he tied down the place. Using that as a measure of a player is just daft. Hindsight shows that Shearer was the better player, but we're talking about at the time Cole was sold.
Well, I’m making a point that isn’t compatible with your conclusion, so it probably doesn’t have any worth to you. And saying that consistently being selected above a very good pool of English strikers at the time is just to do with one manager’s bias and isn’t ‘a measure’ of a player’s value (to the team) seems ‘daft’ to me. Venables and others picked him because regardless of current form they knew his potential value.  Also, the season Cole was sold Shearer scored 34 league goals for the Champions. Cole scored 21 (12 for Manure). They had scored 31 and 34 league goals, respectively, the season before. Cole’s first full season at Old Trafford 95-96 produced 11 league goals for the champions (c***s); Shearer scored over 30 again for Blackburn who had fallen off the pace to a 7th place finish.

If I turn your worthless comment into something more sensible, then I have some sympathy for your view; in that any particular ‘stat’ doesn’t prove or disprove a point. Thing is though around ‘the time Cole was sold’ Shearer was having the best period of his career; absolutely in his pomp. Whether it is international caps, goals scored, all round contribution, there is not much support, imo, for your conclusion about their relative value. Cole was just never as good a player, imo. Not trying to persuade you; you’ll believe what you believe, doesn’t mean others who disagree are either biased or daft.
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Post by: Dave on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 11:16:10 pm
Six years ago: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jan/17/newcastle-freiburg-papiss-demba-cisse
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Post by: LFEE on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 11:22:32 pm
Six years ago: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/jan/17/newcastle-freiburg-papiss-demba-cisse

Still makes me smile :lol:

https://youtu.be/hcGAUPxnX4o
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Friday 19 January 2018, 10:25:29 am
Five years to the day since Pardle took Marveaux off at home to Reading and stuck Perch on becasise we needed to get a tackle in, then blamed the crowd for us losing because they created a negative atmosphere when Cabaye went off.
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Post by: chicken little on Monday 5 February 2018, 09:49:24 am
(https://i.imgur.com/ocNM24U.jpg)
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Post by: HTT on Monday 5 February 2018, 05:30:53 pm
I prefer to remember when KK become our manager first time around...
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Post by: Paully on Tuesday 6 February 2018, 12:12:53 pm
30 years ago!

(https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article8067719.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Gazza.jpg)
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 30 March 2018, 07:44:32 am
10 years ago today. Spurs 1-4 Newcastle.

Could have been about 8 or 9 easily. Remember Beye almost smashing the bar, Barton having a couple of more chances off the top of my head...Owen in the hole behind Viduka and Martins was genius.
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Post by: Tooj on Friday 30 March 2018, 10:33:32 am
10 years ago today. Spurs 1-4 Newcastle.

Could have been about 8 or 9 easily. Remember Beye almost smashing the bar, Barton having a couple of more chances off the top of my head...Owen in the hole behind Viduka and Martins was genius.
What a game that was man, I'd arguably put it in my top 10 of all time. It just felt so Keegan like.
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Post by: mattypnufc on Friday 30 March 2018, 10:36:59 am
Cracking result that.  I was at work on my own that day and watched it on a stream...remember shouting my head off and the Ops manager telling me off.
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Post by: Interpolic on Friday 30 March 2018, 11:46:14 pm
10 years ago today. Spurs 1-4 Newcastle.

Could have been about 8 or 9 easily. Remember Beye almost smashing the bar, Barton having a couple of more chances off the top of my head...Owen in the hole behind Viduka and Martins was genius.
What a game that was man, I'd arguably put it in my top 10 of all time. It just felt so Keegan like.
Just flashed up on my fb feed, had completely slipped my mind that Ashley had "KING KEV 1" on the back of his top like :anguish:
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 25 April 2018, 11:41:25 am
Our most important goal in our history was scored 26 years ago.
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Post by: SteV on Wednesday 25 April 2018, 01:16:37 pm
Our most important goal in our history was scored 26 years ago.

Indeed. I was there that day, and for all the world I would have told you he rattled it into the stanchion, as I was right behind it. However, I've just watched it again on YouTube and wasn't in the top corner at all, only about halfway up the net. Funny how the mind plays tricks.
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Post by: bulivye on Monday 7 May 2018, 02:25:09 pm
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 12:22:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/m7uAd2D.jpg)
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Post by: George Bailey on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 12:54:29 pm
Was such a weird day for me that one.
Utterly ecstatic at the game then got home to first wife later who told me she was divorcing me!
 
Swings and roundabouts....
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Post by: chopey on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 12:56:31 pm
Cracking game as I remember however very dissapointing second half.
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Post by: Robster on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 01:05:53 pm
Cracking game as I remember however very dissapointing second half.
:lol:
Unbelievable day.
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Post by: madras on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 01:07:14 pm
Was such a weird day for me that one.
Utterly ecstatic at the game then got home to first wife later who told me she was divorcing me!
 
Swings and roundabouts....

Do you reckon she knew weeks in advance but saved it for that day ?

I missed the Man Utd game a few months later ( Papavasilou to Cole, first point in the premier league) due to moving my stuff out of the house after living with my girlfriend of the time for 3 years.

Do you see a pattern here, they just can't stand seeing us happy. 😎
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Post by: George Bailey on Wednesday 9 May 2018, 01:13:54 pm
 :lol:

Aye real dream wrecking stuff. Think it was all pre-planned in my case, just to really twist that knife.
Can look back and chuckle now but obviously at the time the smile from the game was wiped in seconds. Sobered up damn quick too  :lol:
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 24 May 2018, 10:16:28 am
One of the biggest celebrated goals I think I can remember:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd8rC4UUQAEBB3P.jpg)
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Post by: joeyt on Thursday 24 May 2018, 10:37:27 am
Was thinking about Jonas the other day and how amazing that goal was. Love him
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Post by: Jimburst on Thursday 24 May 2018, 11:28:05 am
One of the biggest celebrated goals I think I can remember:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd8rC4UUQAEBB3P.jpg)

I think I cried when he scored that :lol: Absolutely loved him.
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 24 May 2018, 11:49:43 am
I was sadly hoping we went down that day, all it did was save it for another year. Ironic it ws Jonas who saved the day given how appealing th lib had treat him towards the end.
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Post by: Greg on Thursday 24 May 2018, 01:11:40 pm
I was sadly hoping we went down that day, all it did was save it for another year. Ironic it ws Jonas who saved the day given how appealing th lib had treat him towards the end.

p*ssed at this hour?
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 24 May 2018, 01:40:06 pm
I was sadly hoping we went down that day, all it did was save it for another year. Ironic it ws Jonas who saved the day given how appealing th lib had treat him towards the end.

p*ssed at this hour?

Nah, this is at the time AO was prominent and I just wanted us to crash and burn to get the fat c*** out.
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Post by: joeyt on Thursday 24 May 2018, 04:26:02 pm
Jonas has posted about it on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjKQlNmHnSb/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=x2zdfzutjy2j
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Thursday 24 May 2018, 04:40:30 pm
Jonas has posted about it on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjKQlNmHnSb/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=x2zdfzutjy2j

That was a lovely ball with the outside of his foot.

I was the same as HTT. I enjoyed the goal for Jonas, but a large part of me definitely wanted us to go down at that point. If I remember rightly, we'd have stayed up regardless of our game because of other results.
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Post by: joeyt on Thursday 24 May 2018, 04:59:03 pm
Pretty sure Stifler went to the Hull game and missed an iconic moment [emoji38]
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Post by: Disco on Friday 25 May 2018, 11:50:56 am
Pretty sure Stifler went to the Hull game and missed an iconic moment [emoji38]

:lol::lol: I'd forgotten about that. Was some superb stiffylogic as to why too.
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Post by: Greg on Friday 25 May 2018, 12:41:03 pm
I was sadly hoping we went down that day, all it did was save it for another year. Ironic it ws Jonas who saved the day given how appealing th lib had treat him towards the end.

p*ssed at this hour?

Nah, this is at the time AO was prominent and I just wanted us to crash and burn to get the fat c*** out.

I was referring to the bit in bold!
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Post by: HTT on Friday 25 May 2018, 02:43:47 pm
I was sadly hoping we went down that day, all it did was save it for another year. Ironic it ws Jonas who saved the day given how appealing th lib had treat him towards the end.

p*ssed at this hour?

Nah, this is at the time AO was prominent and I just wanted us to crash and burn to get the fat c*** out.

Ha ha I didn’t see that, it’s my iPad, the screen needs replaced or something.
I was referring to the bit in bold!
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Post by: HTT on Friday 25 May 2018, 02:44:30 pm
This forum btw isn’t the most usable on an iPad.
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Post by: triggs on Friday 25 May 2018, 04:52:03 pm
This forum btw isn’t the most usable on an iPad.
Get tapatalk
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Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 7 June 2018, 06:51:24 pm
Signed Viduka eleven years ago today. :lol:
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 7 June 2018, 07:00:54 pm
One of my favourite players of the Premier League era.
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Post by: SteV on Thursday 7 June 2018, 07:11:21 pm
One of my favourite players of the Premier League era.

When he was at Leeds or Boro?
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 7 June 2018, 07:15:35 pm
Aye. Was classy as f*** imo.
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Post by: GavMcEl on Thursday 7 June 2018, 07:16:32 pm
Signed Viduka eleven years ago today. :lol:
That's actually  crazy !!!! Seems like 5 years ago ... I remember  this was probably the most excited  I ever was for a pre season... I remember  I was buzzing when we signed  viduka ... remember  just before  the season  started reading in one of the papers terry venables  saying we where genuine title challengers   :lol: remember  not being able to sleep the night before the opening game of the season against  Bolton lol was only  13 though  so I can be forgiven  :lol:
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Post by: Menace on Thursday 7 June 2018, 08:12:50 pm
is  your  space  bar    broken?
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Post by: GavMcEl on Friday 8 June 2018, 07:52:48 am
is  your  space  bar    broken?
Aye
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Post by: Rod on Friday 8 June 2018, 08:30:58 am
Viduka was a complete donkey at the Toon.  One of the reasons we were relegated.  Him and Owen, who would of thought it eh?
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 8 June 2018, 08:40:34 am
Viduka was injured all season until the last week or so. If he'd been fit I don't think we'd have dropped. Only a s*** refereeing decision stopped him from getting the goal to keep us up too.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 8 June 2018, 08:43:59 am
Thought he was decent when he played the season before that too, particularly the run in under Keegan.
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Post by: Rod on Friday 8 June 2018, 10:04:11 am
He scored 7 goals in 38 games for Newcastle.  He was finished when he came to the Toon.  Complete donkey.
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Post by: Rod on Friday 8 June 2018, 10:06:54 am
I agree about the refereeing decision by the way.  It still haunts me to this day.  It was Howard Webb wasn't it?
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Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 9 June 2018, 11:09:12 am
Hang on - Viduka being less than the monster he was at Boro and Leeds had as much to do with that fuckwit Kinnear telling him he didn’t have to train as much as anything else
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Post by: loki679 on Thursday 21 June 2018, 11:56:00 pm
Maradona scored the 'hand of god' goal.
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Post by: 54 on Sunday 8 July 2018, 05:04:48 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28102403
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Post by: HTT on Sunday 8 July 2018, 05:14:58 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28102403

That was one of the most devastatingly dominant displays of football from one team I’ve ever seen, they literally took Brazil apart because on that day every move, touch, pass, run and finish was simply of the highest standard or just too good. It’s rare for a team to just click like that and blow away esteemed opposition.

England have dished out a 4-1 and 5-1 to Holland and Germany in the past, but not in such a dominating and dismissive way. That German team on that day was near perfect with all the right kind of blends and talent. Such a joy and even now watching highlights you are left thinking wow.

That was the day for me Brazil stopped being Brazil and it will take them a long long time to recover. The benchmark was set that match at this level and for Germany too.
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Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Monday 17 September 2018, 10:43:09 pm
(https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article12815374.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Faustino-Asprilla.jpg)

21 Years ago today!  :undecided:
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Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:08:05 pm
(https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article12815374.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Faustino-Asprilla.jpg)

21 Years ago today!  :undecided:

FFS 21 years...time sucks balls.
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Post by: Disco on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:17:36 pm
“It’s another one, it’s Asprilla again, it’s 2-0.” :smitten:
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Post by: Yorkie on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:21:33 pm
I think that game is my earliest football memory.
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Post by: Altamullan on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:29:09 pm
It’s certainly the happiest I have ever been at half-time. Literally couldn’t stop smiling.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:31:48 pm
3 years and 3 months practically before I was born. Mint. :hmm:
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Post by: Disco on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:32:40 pm
First time in the Gallowgate for me as we got moved from our ST seats in the old East paddocks due to the higher hoardings. Couldn’t have been timed better.
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Post by: UncleBingo on Monday 17 September 2018, 11:39:42 pm
What a game, the sound when Tino's 3rd went it will live with me until my dying day....we were hanging on a bit at the end mind!
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Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 12:34:10 am
Better than humping the mackems!

Oasis were on the night before so took a couple of days off and went on it. Best ever home game.
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Post by: Bizza on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 05:54:47 am

We'll never have another night like that while fat mike is in charge :(
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Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 04:22:39 pm
What a game, the sound when Tino's 3rd went it will live with me until my dying day....we were hanging on a bit at the end mind!

I said at the game at the time if it had went on for 10 minutes more I think wed have got beat. The euphoria of Tinos 3rd and seeing Gillespie absolutely rape Sergi was sublime. we will never see days like that again
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Post by: HTT on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:46:46 pm
Great game that, we were hanging on in the end but that first half was us at our best post KK and reminiscent of our 3-0 start away to Bilboa where we were rampant too. Tino man, despite his flaws, when he was on form he was unplayable and used to work his bolocks off. Keegan man, Shearer, Sir Les and Tino :lol:
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Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:56:22 pm
Great game that, we were hanging on in the end but that first half was us at our best post KK and reminiscent of our 3-0 start away to Bilboa where we were rampant too. Tino man, despite his flaws, when he was on form he was unplayable and used to work his bolocks off. Keegan man, Shearer, Sir Les and Tino :lol:

Those were the days, the days where we had world superstars playing for us, where we actually terrified teams..Shearer, Sir Les, Tino now we have Perez,Joselu,Muto FFS man...these plebs would not have got a look in with that team in fact Keegan wouldn't have looked twice at that kind of s***
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Post by: AsprillasShinPad on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 08:58:51 pm
Even Paul Kitson was better than the utter s*** we have up front now.
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Post by: The Little Waster on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:04:33 pm
Even Paul Kitson was better than the utter s*** we have up front now.

Billy fuckin Whitehurst was better than some of the s*** served up in recent years under Ashley
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Post by: HTT on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:08:34 pm
I remember one of Coventry’s former players whose name escapes me saying years later they used to collectively s*** themselves coming to SJP under KK and they would have bets on how many their own ‘keeper could keep the score down by, was an English player I know that, not anyone good, blonde fella I think. Weirdly enough I remember Steve Ogrizovic having a blinder most games home and away against us. I can’t remember the keeper’s name, but West Ham’s back then used to always have a blinder too.

People say KK sold Cole because he was two-one dimensional or because he wanted to go more direct, he didn’t, he sold Cole because he didn’t want the team becoming too dependent on him or for hi, to be our main source of goals. When he brought in Sir Les he thought he had someone who would enable others to get more into the game so that we become a goal threat all over, so if our nu,her 9 wasn’t scoring, we could score from someone else. Adding Tino and then Shearer just added to the team’s firepower.

I didn’t look like it would work on paper and it sometimes didn’t exactly dovetail fluidly, but my god we were a constant threat in games like City are today, imagine having to play that trio individually never mind together.

Great days where I always fancied to us to win, home or away and by a few goals too. Not as dominant possession wise as City are today nor as high scoring, but in terms of constant attacking pressure and that all out attitude to wining and scoring enough goals to win the game in style, it was very much the same.

We will never see football like that again, not in that way and under that kind of atmosphere inside the stadium, around the City and around the country. When we turned up, people took to their seats knowing they were going to go home entertained even if their side lost or got a spanking, that’s why so many rivals fans chose us as their second team to watch and favour against anyone but their own team or if it meant us winning effected them.
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Post by: HTT on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:13:33 pm
Even Paul Kitson was better than the utter s*** we have up front now.

Underrated, very skilful and had a bit of pace. He did well for WHU alongside Hairston for a brief spell, but injuries effected his game. I didn’t want us to sell him, but by then I think the club were looking to trim the squad in terms of wages and players that were never going to be more than just an expensive squad member. That and they wanted to bring in cash to the coffers to make us look cash rich to investors.

One player from that era I wanted us to sign badly was Colin Hendry in defence and for some reason Peter Ndlovu who was a fave other club’s player of mine back then. Had a soft spot for Coventry because of their Morrocon player Hadji, their blue kit, and because of Micky Quinn.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 09:57:24 pm
Gillespie's 50-yard run against Sergi was a thing of beauty. Will be thinking of that on my deathbed.
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Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 10:14:39 pm
Gillespie's 50-yard run against Sergi was a thing of beauty. Will be thinking of that on my deathbed.

Proper wing play knock the ball ahead of the full back beat him for pace and whip in the perfect cross for Tino to leap like a majestic salmon and bullet header the ball home
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Post by: HTT on Tuesday 18 September 2018, 10:41:23 pm
The Bain (4 year old) his coach at the weekend, only a young lad himself, was trying to get them to dribble. He was instructing them not to run too fast because you’d lose control so take small strides, running fast with the ball at your feet will mean you won’t be able to think to do anything, risk overrrunnjng it, or be knocked off your stride.

Look at Gillespie go man...

4 years old just need a ball and that’s all.

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Post by: 54 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 11:47:08 am
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Post by: pedro111 on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 12:03:09 pm
Was 15 year old going mental in the gallowgate that night against Barca. Still remember it so vividly. Also remember the high all next day at school and my mates being jealous as f*** that I was there. Amazing.
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Post by: Altamullan on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:35:09 pm
The Bain (4 year old) his coach at the weekend, only a young lad himself, was trying to get them to dribble. He was instructing them not to run too fast because you’d lose control so take small strides, running fast with the ball at your feet will mean you won’t be able to think to do anything, risk overrrunnjng it, or be knocked off your stride.
Look at Gillespie go man...
4 years old just need a ball and that’s all.
I’ve seen a lot of this kind of coaching. They seem to focus exclusively on close control and technique. The lads who progress to the highest junior levels are like automatons by the time they’re 8. Makes me wonder how many raw competitors (and characters) are missed by the current youth development ethos.
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Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 19 September 2018, 06:38:17 pm
That Sheffield Wednesday game I was checking scores on Ceefax. There were 3 pages of scores but I only cared about the Newcastle one so I pressed HOLD to freeze the screen when we were winning 4-0.

I didn't realise by freezing it it meant that the score wouldn't update. My dad got in from the match and told me that Newcastle won 8-0 I couldn't believe it and was convinced that if I checked the Newcastle score on Ceefax every week and then pressed HOLD, the score would double by full time.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 20 September 2018, 07:32:41 am
Me and dad were watching the live Sky game and they kept popping up the goals as they happened from our game. First one was, ‘moments ago Andy Booth had the ball in the back of the net...but it was ruled out...and then this happened’ showing the Hughes goal. I think by the 7th Martin Tyler said another goal at St James Park and Andy Gray sounded shocked saying, ‘What? Another one??’. :lol:
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 20 September 2018, 08:02:07 am
Quite a few people think it was SBR's first match in charge but it was his third!

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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 20 September 2018, 09:20:31 am
Chelsea and a UEFA Cup game before that.
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Post by: Greg on Friday 21 September 2018, 08:06:51 am
Yeah first home game. It was well over two weeks after he had been appointed. Remember the Chelsea game as he went and sat in the wrong dugout.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 21 September 2018, 08:25:59 pm

We'll never have another night like that while fat mike is in charge :(

A raw moment of entertainment that season, we were utter garbage for 95% of it.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 21 September 2018, 08:37:15 pm
Yeah, the Barca game was good and I know people absolutely loved it, but it didn't hit me like the 5-0 or the 7-1 Vs Spurs did. I think I spent most of that season arguing with my dad about Tomasson. [emoji38]
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Post by: M4 on Friday 21 September 2018, 09:13:14 pm
Yeah first home game. It was well over two weeks after he had been appointed. Remember the Chelsea game as he went and sat in the wrong dugout.

Makes the story even better, really. He plays his mind games on all the players for two weeks and they go and win 8-0.
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Post by: HTT on Friday 21 September 2018, 09:46:57 pm
Sir Bobby turned us around quickly, aided by the additions of Bellamy and Robert in the main who totally transformed us. That and we started the 4th place season fitter and sharper due to the InterToto Cup which gave us momentum from the start. Drawing 1-1 with Chelsea who had spent a fortune and quickly followed by thrashing Boro and then Man Utd.

It helped he had Shay, Dabizas, Speed and Shearer all top pros as his spine when fit mind. Bobby energised those players, fans and through the likes of Bellamy and Robert the team as a whole and probably himself. Great days where I thought we could just as easily thrash whoever we were playing or get thrashed. We could be absolutely brilliant one moment and absolutely shocking the next.

We were never genuine contenders though and as much as I loved Sir Bobby, it would have taken someone a bit more younger and more modern to turn that team into a genuine challenger.

Someone like Benítez maybe... We will never know, but you can look at Liverpool and see how he turned them into challengers and wonder what might have been had he replaced Bobby and not Souness who stands as the biggest managerial mistake we have ever made in modern times because it set us back to square one and made it so that we were always on the catch up after that.

A missed opportunity like when Sir Bobby rejected the job after KK left and we got Dalglish instead. I believe KK’s team would have, post his departure, been much closer to the team Bobby actually ended up building had he replaced KK. Moore than enough to have kept us challenging after him and maybe even going one further.

That 8-0 was surreal, we didn’t batter them from memory despite the scoreline and didn’t exactly play vintage stuff either. They just folded like a pack of cards and we were ruthless in capitalising on the mood swing on the stands and their calamity at the back, complete surrender in midfield and toothless threat up front against a Toon side happy to see the back of Gullit.
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Post by: loki679 on Saturday 22 September 2018, 02:03:14 am
I was there that day, it was fantastic.  4-0 half time and me and my dad were joking about betting on 8-0 full time.  Never did though, bugger :lol:
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Post by: QuakesMag on Saturday 22 September 2018, 02:14:45 am
I was lucky to be at that match as well. Did a 10 month Europe trip, and managed several games at St. James Park. I saw the 5-0 against Southampton as well.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 28 September 2018, 11:10:46 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/2IZwvvG.jpg)
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Post by: Yorkie on Friday 28 September 2018, 11:12:02 pm
That Mark Douglas' Rafa book?
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 28 September 2018, 11:12:23 pm
That Mark Douglas' Rafa book?
Martin Hardy's.
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Post by: Bizza on Saturday 6 October 2018, 12:38:52 pm

17 years? jesus, feels like yesterday. :anguish:
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Post by: newsted on Sunday 7 October 2018, 05:18:50 pm
That was amazing, he must have taken about 20 that game, the mental strength, man, last minute saver. One of the few times I've lost it watching football in a good way - Michael Thomas and Craig Bellamy spring to mind. :)
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Post by: Paully on Saturday 20 October 2018, 08:40:38 am
22 years ago........”well if the rest was the cake, there is the icing”
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 20 October 2018, 08:42:36 am
:(
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Post by: covmag on Saturday 20 October 2018, 08:53:49 am

We'll never have another night like that while fat mike is in charge :(

i sat in the Gallowgate that night in disbelief, that through ball by Rob Lee to Tino for the pen, when did we last see a player do that , a winger who runs at a fullback like that  :undecided:

never again, never again  :'(
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Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 20 October 2018, 11:03:48 am
It was Tomasson that played the through ball.

With the exception of maybe Jesus Navas, I can't think of any out and out wingers that have played at the top level in recent years. Valencia at Man United a few seasons back maybe.
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Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 20 October 2018, 11:11:36 am
What even is an out-and-out winger? Do they have to be pacey and favour the foot which is closest to the touchline? I'd probably define it at someone who just plays exclusively on the wing, meaning there's hundreds of them out there, at all levels?
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Post by: covmag on Saturday 20 October 2018, 11:16:52 am
It was Tomasson that played the through ball.

With the exception of maybe Jesus Navas, I can't think of any out and out wingers that have played at the top level in recent years. Valencia at Man United a few seasons back maybe.

oh aye  :lol:    one of the few things he ever did  :p
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Post by: covmag on Saturday 20 October 2018, 11:18:22 am
What even is an out-and-out winger? Do they have to be pacey and favour the foot which is closest to the touchline? I'd probably define it at someone who just plays exclusively on the wing, meaning there's hundreds of them out there, at all levels?

plays on the wing, crosses the ball into the box, runs down the line at a fullback most of the game?
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Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 20 October 2018, 11:24:19 am
What even is an out-and-out winger? Do they have to be pacey and favour the foot which is closest to the touchline? I'd probably define it at someone who just plays exclusively on the wing, meaning there's hundreds of them out there, at all levels?

I'd say they're generally the same foot as the side they're playing, generally hug the touchline, and concentrate on either beating their full back to cross the ball in, or cross from deep.

Players on the wings now are generally either wing forwards that concentrate on more than just the things above, or they're attacking fullbacks/wing backs. Bournemouth play with out and out wingers in a 442, but they still tend to play with a style similar to having wing forwards.
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Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 20 October 2018, 12:13:26 pm
What even is an out-and-out winger? Do they have to be pacey and favour the foot which is closest to the touchline? I'd probably define it at someone who just plays exclusively on the wing, meaning there's hundreds of them out there, at all levels?

I'd say they're generally the same foot as the side they're playing, generally hug the touchline, and concentrate on either beating their full back to cross the ball in, or cross from deep.

Players on the wings now are generally either wing forwards that concentrate on more than just the things above, or they're attacking fullbacks/wing backs. Bournemouth play with out and out wingers in a 442, but they still tend to play with a style similar to having wing forwards.

Keith Gillespie gets two assists in that vid - both perfect winger's creations, but both very different. No one really plays like he did anymore - the wide forward has indeed largely replaced the winger (who replaced the outside right or left before that)
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Post by: Paully on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 01:10:06 pm
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Post by: GavMcEl on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 04:17:32 pm
Remember  that  like it was yesterday .... mad it was 16 years ago... f***ing loved that  kit too deffo one of our most underrated ones
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Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 04:28:06 pm
Was there, Juve had a black sub ready to come on (Zalayeta) and bloke next to me said "why the f*** are we bringing Shola on", forgetting we weren't in black and white. :lol:
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Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 04:48:50 pm
Who was that with the assist?
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 04:51:41 pm
Robert. :smitten:
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Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 23 October 2018, 05:38:56 pm
Would be given as an own goal now.
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 25 October 2018, 12:27:31 pm
23 years ago  :kasper:

Unreal performance and one of Ginola's finest! It's a shame that shot didn't go in when he drifted inside! I recall that bellend Lou Macari slating him after the game for "getting" their full back sent off!

It was mental outside the ground too - absolute hell on!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFVA7CcfJ8
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Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 25 October 2018, 12:29:50 pm
Ooooh, I'll have to watch that later. IIRC that's got my favourite goal of that season in it with a lush, casual one-two on the edge of the area.
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Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 25 October 2018, 12:30:04 pm
He was unbelievable in that game like.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 25 October 2018, 12:33:40 pm
Just had a quick look at work and it was him double step-over-ing, leaving the right back on his arse and then whipping a ball in. :love:
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 7 November 2018, 02:27:55 pm
Six years ago today Hearts were given a winding-up order thanks to the antics of Romanov and their weekend game was set to be their last.

Supporters since then have raised £8m to save the club and help move forward again. They’re now top of the league.

Goes to show what can happen if a fanbase unites and pulls together.

I know the scales
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 03:12:03 pm
25 years ago today (Jesus!) – Coley’s hat-trick vs Liverpool at the Gallowgate in the snow(drops!)! Mocking the manager in the away dugout about being on the dole very soon certainly bit us well and truly on the arse 13 years later :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Some superb team goals that day!
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Post by: Rod on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 04:04:50 pm
I remember the Andy Cole hat trick that day.  Believe it or not, I had my betting slip written out with Cole hat trick and 3-0.  The wife saw my betting slip and "persuaded" me to not put the bet on.  She said it might put the "mockers" on.  I wasn't too happy with her at the final whistle.

We are still married and still have our season tickets.  However, I never tell her of any bets I have on now.
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Post by: Wallsendmag on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 04:35:15 pm
25 years ago today (Jesus!) – Coley’s hat-trick vs Liverpool at the Gallowgate in the snow(drops!)! Mocking the manager in the away dugout about being on the dole very soon certainly bit us well and truly on the arse 13 years later :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Some superb team goals that day!


"SOUNESS FOR SUNDERLAND!"
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Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 04:45:46 pm
I'm probably wrong but I remember every goal being exactly the same. Like exactly the same. :lol: Lee/Beardsley with a through ball to Sellars on the left then squared to Cole to score.
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 05:21:40 pm
I'm probably wrong but I remember every goal being exactly the same. Like exactly the same. :lol: Lee/Beardsley with a through ball to Sellars on the left then squared to Cole to score.

Ha ha - the third goal was absolutely superb - that first time ball by Rob Lee!

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Post by: HTT on Wednesday 21 November 2018, 05:24:49 pm
Grobbelar clearly on the take! Thought that at the time as well. We tore them to shreds that day though.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 27 November 2018, 11:37:33 am
Gary Speed. RIP
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Post by: bulivye on Tuesday 27 November 2018, 03:52:43 pm
Gary Speed. RIP

indeed.  :weep:
Gone but not forgotten
 :icon_salut:
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Post by: M4 on Tuesday 27 November 2018, 08:33:19 pm
Loving this photo posted by Lee:

Check out @7RobLee’s Tweet:
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 13 December 2018, 07:00:13 am
15 years ago today, Newcastle 4-0 Spurs.
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 13 December 2018, 07:18:57 am
15 years ago today, Newcastle 4-0 Spurs.

LAURENT!

LAURENT!

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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 December 2018, 11:21:08 am
15 years ago today, Newcastle 4-0 Spurs.

One of the best performances seen at SJP.

2 goals, 2 assists.
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Saturday 19 January 2019, 01:53:04 pm
Six years today since Al Pards said we needed to get a tackle in. :thup:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20996823
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 05:57:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH5BiqfFsnQ
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Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 06:32:24 pm
This is all about Kevin and everyone knows what he means but as an aside how classy is Ossie Ardiles in this ? Invites the journos into his front room and the proceeds to call the club who has just sacked him "beautiful".
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Post by: leffe186 on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 06:41:36 pm
This is all about Kevin and everyone knows what he means but as an aside how classy is Ossie Ardiles in this ? Invites the journos into his front room and the proceeds to call the club who has just sacked him "beautiful".

Met him in New York a few years back at a NY Spurs event. Diamond geezer. There were many in that team - Ardiles and Hughton are prime examples.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Friday 8 February 2019, 04:31:31 pm
https://youtu.be/t-uzL6LWn3g
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Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 8 February 2019, 11:35:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH5BiqfFsnQ

I think John Carver learned more from Keegan in that thumbnail, than he did working with Robson all those years.
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Post by: triggs on Friday 8 February 2019, 11:55:07 pm
This is all about Kevin and everyone knows what he means but as an aside how classy is Ossie Ardiles in this ? Invites the journos into his front room and the proceeds to call the club who has just sacked him "beautiful".

Met him in New York a few years back at a NY Spurs event. Diamond geezer. There were many in that team - Ardiles and Hughton are prime examples.
Mad that Chris Hughton is 60
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 6 March 2019, 12:28:42 pm
26 years since Rob Lee's disallowed goal for an offside to us!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IlNfjHUEK3o#t=665s
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Post by: Paully on Wednesday 3 April 2019, 04:07:13 pm
I was gutted leaving the ground but the feeling was 20 times worse leaving Ewood five days later  :'( :'( :'(

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Post by: TBG on Wednesday 3 April 2019, 04:09:48 pm
But lets be honest, as Newcastle fans, we'd rather get beat 4-3, than lose 1-0. LIVE ON SUPER SUNDAY
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Post by: nufcjb on Wednesday 3 April 2019, 04:21:48 pm
I was gutted leaving the ground but the feeling was 20 times worse leaving Ewood five days later  :'( :'( :'(

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Last home game of this season, Rafa's last home game. Liverpool need a win to stay alive in the title race.

Your commentary team Martin Tyler and Jamie Carragher.

93rd minute, score is 3-3.  SJP is loud and singing about Rafa.

Tyler: Perez..hanging on for man of the match..Perez..Almiron..Perez..........still Ayoze Perez....Joselu closing iiinnnnnn!!!!!! Newcastle lead in stoppage time!!!!!
Carragher: You absolute divvy! Do one you soft spanish c***.

klopp goes bonkers. SJP goes wild. Rafa doesnt know whether to celebrate or cry.
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Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 3 April 2019, 04:32:17 pm
:anguish:
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Post by: geordie john on Wednesday 3 April 2019, 04:42:24 pm
nufcjb, we can only dream but I love your optimism and style!
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 05:26:34 pm
Abysmal FA Cup semi final defeat in Cardiff and Shearer's farewell at the Mackems.

Reading the .com report on the former. Now sat all depressed in the Venetian sun. Champion.
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Post by: madras on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 06:14:49 pm
Abysmal FA Cup semi final defeat in Cardiff and Shearer's farewell at the Mackems.

Reading the .com report on the former. Now sat all depressed in the Venetian sun. Champion.
That semi we stopped overnight  in Gloucester. Drove there then train to Cardiff. Same coming out but no overnight we made Wetherby and I rang a mate to see where he was........."Still in the f***ing coach park in Cardiff!"
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Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 06:28:34 pm
We drove to Hereford of all places ffs. First ever away game, grim as f***.
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Post by: madras on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 06:48:12 pm
The night we stopped over there were a few Blackburn fans as they had played that day. Impromptu games of street football. We used a football to guide us to pubs. Punt it down the street and go in the nearest pub to where it landed.
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 07:23:56 pm
Abysmal FA Cup semi final defeat in Cardiff and Shearer's farewell at the Mackems.

Reading the .com report on the former. Now sat all depressed in the Venetian sun. Champion.

Bus to Cardiff 3am Sunday, got back 2am Monday. Was in year 11, weeks away from my GCSEs and fell asleep in double physics on the Monday morning. Cool as f*** story, I know.
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Post by: Paully on Thursday 25 April 2019, 05:42:09 am
My favourite Shearer goal! Everyone seems to forget how good Shola’s was too! Look at the black and white shirts in the ground as well! Pride in the Club back then! I’m sure we helped Arsenal win the league this day iirc as they played Spurs away after this?!

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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 25 April 2019, 06:04:26 am
Ray Wilkins was in awe of the stadium and atmosphere on commentary that day.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 25 April 2019, 09:38:03 am
(https://i.imgur.com/bKiCRMI.jpg)
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Post by: loki679 on Thursday 25 April 2019, 09:49:50 am
Jigsaw forgot to take his schoolbag off :lol:
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Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 25 April 2019, 09:53:35 am
Now that was an important game!
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Post by: Paully on Monday 29 April 2019, 11:38:46 am
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Post by: Shearergol on Monday 29 April 2019, 11:45:27 am
My favourite Shearer goal! Everyone seems to forget how good Shola’s was too! Look at the black and white shirts in the ground as well! Pride in the Club back then! I’m sure we helped Arsenal win the league this day iirc as they played Spurs away after this?!

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I have absolutely no memory of their keeper. I thought Cudicini was in goal that day :-D
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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 29 April 2019, 12:25:11 pm
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It saddens me a little bit that a whole generation of people will only associate Keegan with the time he kicked off with his headphones on.  Sky in particular love bringing this moment up, but never seem to point out that Ferguson’s comments were out of order and they like to make Keegan out to be some silly little jumped up man who thought he could go toe to toe with Fergie.  The man was an absolutely legendary footballer and was also a very good manager aswell.  He has a 50% win ratio over his career, compare that to someone like Fat Sam who is apparently a good manager with a 39% win ratio.  I wish he was recognised a bit more for that.
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Post by: Conjo on Monday 29 April 2019, 01:02:27 pm
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It saddens me a little bit that a whole generation of people will only associate Keegan with the time he kicked off with his headphones on.  Sky in particular love bringing this moment up, but never seem to point out that Ferguson’s comments were out of order and they like to make Keegan out to be some silly little jumped up man who thought he could go toe to toe with Fergie.  The man was an absolutely legendary footballer and was also a very good manager aswell.  He has a 50% win ratio over his career, compare that to someone like Fat Sam who is apparently a good manager and has a 39% win ratio.  I wish he was recognised a bit more for that.

What exactly were Fergusons full comments? I've searched a bit now and before and this is all I've found:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/jan/15/sir-alex-ferguson-mind-games
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Ferguson gave the interview that would eventually send Keegan into meltdown. "I can't understand the Leeds players," his diatribe began. "I'm absolutely in support of their manager. He doesn't deserve his players. If they had played like that all season they'd be near the top. They raised their game because they were playing Manchester United. It was pathetic. I think we can accept any club coming here and trying their hardest, so long as they do it every week."


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/babb/11586896/The-full-story-of-Kevin-Keegans-I-will-love-it-rant.html
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As United’s form started to look ominous, Ferguson decided to turn the screw by suggesting teams like Nottingham Forest might not try as hard against Newcastle as they did against his side.

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Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:23:23 pm
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It saddens me a little bit that a whole generation of people will only associate Keegan with the time he kicked off with his headphones on.  Sky in particular love bringing this moment up, but never seem to point out that Ferguson’s comments were out of order and they like to make Keegan out to be some silly little jumped up man who thought he could go toe to toe with Fergie.  The man was an absolutely legendary footballer and was also a very good manager aswell.  He has a 50% win ratio over his career, compare that to someone like Fat Sam who is apparently a good manager and has a 39% win ratio.  I wish he was recognised a bit more for that.

What exactly were Fergusons full comments? I've searched a bit now and before and this is all I've found:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/jan/15/sir-alex-ferguson-mind-games
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Ferguson gave the interview that would eventually send Keegan into meltdown. "I can't understand the Leeds players," his diatribe began. "I'm absolutely in support of their manager. He doesn't deserve his players. If they had played like that all season they'd be near the top. They raised their game because they were playing Manchester United. It was pathetic. I think we can accept any club coming here and trying their hardest, so long as they do it every week."


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/babb/11586896/The-full-story-of-Kevin-Keegans-I-will-love-it-rant.html
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As United’s form started to look ominous, Ferguson decided to turn the screw by suggesting teams like Nottingham Forest might not try as hard against Newcastle as they did against his side.

I don’t have the full quotes but he basically suggested that teams like Leeds and Nottingham Forest would try harder against Man Utd because it’s Man Utd and they’d rather Newcastle win the title or something along those lines. 

Some would call it clever from Fergie i guess, a bit like a player who deliberately “wins” a penalty.  Personally it’s not a part of the game i enjoy.
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Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:37:19 pm
Was it not something to do with a testimonial that had been agreed as well?
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Post by: Doctor Zaius on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:39:03 pm
He was done up like a kipper by Ferguson. As was Benitez.
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Post by: Ian W on Monday 29 April 2019, 03:39:40 pm
That was Keegan's strength and greatest weakness, very sensitive and very emotional. it's what made him such an inspiring manager and put him so closely in touch with the fans and the city. But ultimately why he couldn't handle management at the top level for very long.
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Post by: Paully on Monday 29 April 2019, 04:08:55 pm
Was it not something to do with a testimonial that had been agreed as well?

Aye, Pearce's for Forest at home to us!
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Post by: nufcjb on Monday 29 April 2019, 05:18:42 pm
Would look like an epic promo for a Wrestlemania main event
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Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 11:35:39 am
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inside-story-kevin-keegans-i-11261446

Sorry for just posting the link. The site crashes my pc when I try to scroll due to all the horrible ads, video ads and buggy scripts they force onto it so I'm not able to. Appreciate if anyone with a high end PC could copy&paste article so I can read it in its entirety as it seems to explain a bit more what Keegan meant with his Stuart Pearce comments etc.
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Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 11:51:34 am
The inside story of Kevin Keegan's 'I would love it' interview: Did it cost Newcastle the title?

Newcastle United manager Kevin Keegan delivered a broadside at Alex Ferguson live on Sky

Approaching the 20th anniversary of Kevin Keegan’s infamous ‘I would love it’ interview, we are delighted to publish the chapter of Martin Hardy’s excellent Touching Distance that deals with one of the most iconic moments of a memorable season.

This is the inside story of the interview that is still remembered to this day.
Newcastle United v Leeds United, 30 April 1996

Kevin Keegan – Love Will Tear us Apart

The headset was adjusted into position, the red light on the camera flashed, and then the manager of Newcastle United was asked about comments Sir Alex Ferguson had made.

Keegan started calmly, but then the fire inside roared into life. He was about to make a piece of television history.

Manchester United’s victory over long-term foes Leeds United on 17 April had been scrappy and tight. The Reds had won 1–0 for the eighth time in the campaign. Alex Ferguson did not have a headset on and he did not wave a finger, but his anger looked real.

“For some it’s more important to get a result against Manchester United to stop us winning the league than anything else, which to me, they’re cheating their manager,” he said to the camera. “That’s all it is. Of course, when they come to Newcastle, you wait to see the difference.”

When the Newcastle team coach pulled into the car park next to the South Stand at Elland Road, it was mobbed. Mostly they were Newcastle fans who waved bits of paper in the air, but some wore the white of Leeds as well.

Keegan could not get off the bus such were the numbers. He began signing auto- graphs as Newcastle’s players made their way to the stadium, for such a huge game.

There were 5,000 Newcastle supporters in the John Charles Stand at Elland Road. They had barely settled in a fixture in which there was historically no love lost between the supporters of both clubs when a cross came over from the right and Keith Gillespie headed the ball back across the face of the goal and into the top corner of the Leeds net.

It was a scrap. Howard Wilkinson had been given everything his struggling players possessed. It was still not enough to stop Newcastle, who were finding resilience at the right time.

The gap to Manchester United was back down to three points.

Keegan walked down the cinder track with Wilkinson and the pair chatted. He went to his players in the dressing room and said well done.

“It’s funny really,” says Terry McDermott. “He came on to the coach, he was going home in his car, he lived over in Yarm, he wasn’t far away and he got on the coach.

“I’m just going to do the TV,” he was laughing. We’d won one-nil. He was happy as Larry. “I’m going to shoot,” he said. “I’ve got to do the press and I’ll speak to you later, if not in the morning. I went, ‘OK, mate, see you later’.”

Richard Keys and Andy Gray were in the Sky studio. What followed will never be forgotten.
The interview

Richard Keys: “Why do you think all that was happening, Kevin, tension on the night?”

Kevin Keegan: “I don’t think you can discount it. We just want to keep our hopes alive and a lot of things have been said over the last few days, some of it slanderous. We’ve never commented. We’ve just got on working, trying to pass the ball like we do in training. I think you’ve got to send Alex Ferguson a tape of this game, haven’t you? Isn’t that what he asked for?”

Andy Gray: “Well, I’m sure if he was watching it tonight, Kevin, he could have no arguments about the way Leeds went about their job and really tested your team.”

Keegan: “And . . . and . . . we . . . we’re playing Notts Forest on Thursday . . . and he objected to that! Now that was fixed up for months ago. We’re supposed to play Notts Forest. I mean that sort of stuff, we . . . is, it’s been . . . we’re bet– we’re bigger than that.”

Richard Keys: “But that’s part and parcel of the psychology of the game, Kevin, isn’t it?”

Andy Gray: “No, I don’t think so.”

Keegan: “No! When you do that, with footballers, like he said about Leeds, and when you do things like that about a man like Stuart Pearce. I’ve kept really quiet, but I’ll tell you something, he went down in my estimation when he said that.

“But I’ll tell ya – you can tell him now if you’re watching it – we’re still fighting for this title and he’s got to go to Middlesbrough and get something, and I tell you honestly, I will love it if we beat them. Love it!”

Keys: “Well, quite plainly the message is, it’s a long way from over and you’re still in there scrapping and battling and you’ll take any of these as long as you continue to get the results’.

Keegan: “I think football in this country is so honest and so, honestly, when you look abroad you’ve got your doubts. But it really has got to me and I, I, I’ve not voiced it live, not in front of the press or anywhere – I’m not even going to the press conference, but the battle’s still on and Man United have not won this yet!”

The reference to Nottingham Forest’s Stuart Pearce was because Keegan had agreed to take Newcastle to the City Ground for his testimonial after the season had finished. The game would take place eight days after the two teams met in Newcastle’s penultimate game of the season. That was enough to irk Ferguson.

The first Newcastle fans who were there knew of the outburst was on the Radio Five news. It led the programme. The car park at the back of the John Charles Stand was strangled by traffic trying to get home. Keegan’s tone went up in the car speakers. Nobody said a word. As soon as the piece had finished, there was a roar in that car. ‘Come on!’

To supporters it was a rallying cry. Nobody wanted to give up.
What did the players think?

As soon as the interview had finished, the players of Newcastle United on the team bus found their mobile phones heating up.

“‘Bloody hell, have you heard Kevin?’ that’s what we were told,” says McDermott. “Listen to this. We had the telly on. Jesus Christ, I couldn’t believe it. “I’d love it, love it. This is not finished yet, we can still go and win.”

“He was right as rain going into the interview. He wasn’t saying, “I’m going to show that b******.” We’d just won, he was in good fettle. I was more shocked than anybody.

“He phoned me, I said, “What the hell was that?” He said, “Ah, sod him.” At the time he didn’t really like Ferguson.”

Keegan was unrepentant.

“Where Alex Ferguson annoyed me, it wasn’t anything about Newcastle, it was about football,” he says.

“He more or less said other teams wouldn’t try as hard against us as they would against Man United. Call it mind games, call it what you want. It got beyond football that.

“It’s insinuating in my mind that teams won’t try and they will throw games. At times it’s hard to go after a match. We’d won that match at Leeds when I did the interview. I had the cans on and I didn’t realise how loud I was shouting.
Read more: The inside story of Phillipe Albert - from Touching Distance

“You have to look at it and say it was part of that season, the emotions of that season, the roller-coaster ride.”

Ferguson had been on a long lunch with Roy Evans and two journalists by the time he sat at home, in front of his television. He was more concerned about the wrath of his wife, Cathy, than the mood of Kevin Keegan.

“I sat in my favourite seat to watch the closing minutes, hoping that Leeds would snatch an equaliser,” he said in his autobiography.

“After the final whistle, I started to attempt an explanation of why I was so late and was stopped dead in my tracks by Kevin’s outburst. God, I felt for him. Looking at replays later, I was better able to digest what he said and at first it made me feel a bit guilty.

“Then I thought to myself that I had done nothing wrong. I had said something that related to the honesty of the game, which I had a right to do.

“I stress again, my words were not directed at Newcastle or Kevin but at Leeds players. I had always got on well with Kevin and had given him some advice in his early days at Newcastle.

“Although I was a little disappointed he attacked me, I just put it down to pressure. There was plenty of that still round.”

McDermott concurs. “Mind games?” he adds. “Load of b*llocks, absolute b*llocks. Mind games don’t score a goal, a player does. Do you care what your manager says? No you don’t.”

Keith Gillespie got off the team bus in Newcastle and went to a nightclub.

“We were on the coach and somebody was speaking to a girlfriend,’ he says. “That was when somebody said what had happened. We watched it on the bus. I loved the passion he shows, not many managers would do that. He was so for us winning the league.

“Him showing that sort of passion was great for the fans. I know people take the p*ss about “I’d love it”, but to me it was an absolutely brilliant reaction. I don’t think any of the players would say it put any pressure on us.”

Touching Distance, published by deCoubertin books, is available to purchase from www.touchingdistance.com

The author, Martin Hardy, has been shortlisted for the best New Writer at the 2016 Cross Sports Book Awards for Touching Distance. Contact the author on twitter @mhardysport.
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Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 12:22:01 pm
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“Him showing that sort of passion was great for the fans. I know people take the p*ss about “I’d love it”, but to me it was an absolutely brilliant reaction. I don’t think any of the players would say it put any pressure on us.”

Exactly what Beresford, Ginola, and Howey all said on Time of Our Lives as well.
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Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 12:39:56 pm
Thanks Raconteur :)
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Post by: Robster on Saturday 4 May 2019, 11:29:54 am
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Post by: summerof69 on Monday 6 May 2019, 05:51:24 pm
Can’t post it but there a class video from the bbc archive of the welcome for the losing game cup team of 1974
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Post by: Greg on Monday 6 May 2019, 05:53:39 pm
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Post by: summerof69 on Monday 6 May 2019, 05:56:39 pm
Thanks Greg
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Post by: bigfella on Monday 6 May 2019, 09:24:53 pm

Me and my dad were in the west stand paddock for this,  just to the right of the bit with Supermac and Joe Harvey in the director's box. Absolutely staggering support,  especially considering how embarrassing we'd been in the final.
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Post by: Yorkie on Monday 6 May 2019, 11:19:56 pm

Lost for words.
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Post by: Magpie on Thursday 9 May 2019, 12:59:29 pm
Twenty six years ago. TWENTY SIX. I am old.

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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 01:09:35 pm
An 8 year old Discman getting his legs crushed in the paddock because we weirdly gave Leicester the full Leazes.
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Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Thursday 9 May 2019, 02:52:28 pm
Twenty six years ago. TWENTY SIX. I am old.

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Must be faked, Andy Cole is smiling
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Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 9 May 2019, 03:02:05 pm
15 years since we drew 1-1 with Wolves on the last day of the season to finish 5th. How times have changed - a great report by NUFC.com at the time


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Amazing, incredible, unbelievable.

Three days after the semi-final of a European Cup competition and with a top four league place up for grabs, Newcastle are booed by a section of their own supporters and then handed a colossal vote of no confidence in the manager and players by a collective walkout at the final whistle.
But when the dust settles on this apparent show of petulance and emotions are checked back enough to allow for a modicum of perspective, then the reasons for this display of social disobedience have been plain to see for months. Since around 4pm on the first day of our season to be exact.
At that juncture, Newcastle fans were filing out of Elland Road after a 2-2 draw from a Sunday afternoon early kickoff, having just seen their side scrape a point from a game they should have won against a piecemeal Leeds side who even at that juncture looked to be in the proverbial - reminiscent of back in August 1988 when losing at Everton......
In our report of Leeds game, we finished by saying, "there's no real evidence of progression from last season at this admittedly very early stage" as well as saying of Bowyer that "this right wing role doesn't seem a good use of his talents." Two statements that have almost been repeated mantra-like ever since.
Can I just say straight away, before keyboards are abused and poison pens picked up, that booing is not something that we subscribe to. The arguments for doing it in certain circumstances are beyond question, whether you choose to throw in the examples of anger expression ranging from the suffragettes to Solidarity in Poland.

It's just something that just doesn't come into our heads - a bit like loser's parades. Just give us a quick wave and then everyone can go home and forget about it, don't play the extra extended 12 inch half-paced mix of Local Hero before traipsing out long-forgotten juniors and glum-looking crocks.
We didn't even have the Northumberland Senior Cup to hide behind this year - the only thing we've won was when Shearer's horse was first past the post....perhaps that should have been on the field, a nice bit of manure might have improved things.... 
No, something snapped collectively amongst the crowd on Sunday when Wolves equalised. It had been almost eerily quiet beforehand, aside from the celebration of the Bowyer goal, people too tense, depressed or sullen to try and lift the team.

A second goal before the interval might have masked the fraying edges and extinguished any remaining embers of ambition for the visitors, but the same piece of woodwork that had denied Drogba and Terry in the last two games was there at the Leazes end for Shola to bounce his shot off.

As it was we left the field for the interval having missed three good chances to augment Bowyer's effort and if the atmosphere wasn't hostile, then there was a certainly an air of apprehension.

That had become outright hostility by the time Wolves scored and then festered as Robert embarked upon a series of ludicrous efforts to tackle, win and then keep and pass the ball, to howls of derision. He was eventually withdrawn and replaced via a mixed reception of boos, catcalls and applause, but missing was the old shout of "Hugo Hugo" when the Portuguese midfielder emerged, the booing continuing as he entered the action. Some people were so het up I doubt they knew Chopra was on as well.

Amid an atmosphere of total negativity and fractiousness, those on the field became ever more desperate in their efforts and consequently their waywardness. In a word, rattled. Wolves sensed it and in their own half-baked style tried to impose themselves, Ince producing a cameo of his former fiery self with some thuggery and arguing with colleagues.
Then, apparent salvation. From the far end of the ground there was mixed opinion over why we were awarded a spot kick, but no doubt that the ball was on the spot and that the man placing it there was en route to his 29th goal of the season.

Only there was a doubt. A colossal doubt. Not for one second did I believe Al would score and the same line was repeated time and time again when asking fellow drinkers after the match. Who knows why? Maybe we are just fated to foul up, very publicly.
Under those strained circumstances, the announcement from the "I was only obeying orders" PA man of a post-match tramp round the field just further stirred up the emotions of people who had seen enough.
Seen enough: bad play, boring games, questionable tactics, unenjoyable wins, players not trying, fellow fans not getting involved, people walking out, inaccurate newspaper articles, patronising player interviews.

Ten months of slowly fermenting frustration, now mutating into sheer bloody disappointment once more. 

I think it's safe to say that not one person walked out of this ground thinking about Boro winning the tinpot league cup, but in a way that's part of the problem. We may mock, but we cannot even excel to that extent. Generations of fans are now reared on disappointment.

Bobby and Co. may have cringed and griped at the booing, but they should reflect that it was typically British - in other places they would have waved handkerchiefs, (like his beloved Barca) hoyed cushions or bottles or come on the field and attacked those held to account.
(Long gone from proceedings, television footage later confirmed that Robert had taken part in the post-match cortege, filming his own personal long march with a camcorder - maybe he just wanted to gather evidence in case someone came out of what remained of the crowd and smacked him one.)

Partizan Belgrade is seen as a watershed for the club in recent times, but the seeds of discontent were sewn at Elland Road and the countless other homes of second-rate clubs that we underachieved in all season.

That feeling was crystalised on Thursday, when we were potentially ten minutes away from a UEFA Cup final. One goal would have put us level with Marseille and made for a nervous end to the game amongst the citizens of the Velodrome. But we never looked like getting it and continued to play in an unconvincing, dispiriting manner right to the end.
And here on Sunday it all fell down. Would 50,000 fans cheering themselves hoarse at the end of this game have sent the team off in better shape to win those last two games? It would have been nice to find out, but I doubt it - things like that don't seem to matter to that lot on the field anymore, expect when tossing off bland platitudes in interviews. After all, it didn't work at Wembley did it?
Never mind that we were without certain players. We've been without Bellamy and Woodgate as much as we've seen them and the contributions of Jenas and Dyer overall this season could be recorded on the back of a Bacardi Breezer bottle top. 
On Thursday and Sunday, we had a team on the pitch composed of professional footballers acquired at great expense, cosseted, well-remunerated and with the potential to be the focus of adulation for decades to come. Just ask Bob Moncur.

Once again though as Jim Bowen would say, we got close enough to see what we could have won, before tossing it all away. We failed to beat a tinpot, tosspot team from Wolverhampton yet again and you wonder why people get upset?
Paying through the nose to sit (and stand) through a mind-bogglingly mediocre campaign doesn't leave one well-disposed to sympathising with the people appointed to carry your hopes and dreams, who week after week do a good impression of rubbing your face in the muck. And knowing that the rest of the league barring one team are utterly bloody ordinary just makes it worse.

Bobby may wail about bleeding black and white and pin on his toon army medals, but he was many, many miles away when we suffered in near-silence the tribulations of the Dalglish and Gullit eras. It's a mite unfair, but those on the field on Sunday bore the brunt of successive failed administrations and countless regrettable signings in recent decades.
Thanks for trying Bobby, but it's defeated you, like all the rest. We've cheered you, we've supported you and now we just plain don't believe you anymore. And neither do the players. We got close, we've almost failed. Again.
We'll now trudge off to Hampshire and Merseyside with whatever the opposite of hope in our hearts is. But not boo.
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Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 9 May 2019, 05:53:32 pm
Hmm, still a pretty controversial take in hindsight imo. Only lost once at home after August and participated in an exciting European campaign which helped to remedy the Partizan fiasco; probably earned them a better send off. They beat Abromivich Chelsea Version I only a week prior to that Wolves game, too.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:21:20 pm
Hmm, still a pretty controversial take in hindsight imo. Only lost once at home after August and participated in an exciting European campaign which helped to remedy the Partizan fiasco; probably earned them a better send off. They beat Abromivich Chelsea Version I only a week prior to that Wolves game, too.

From what I've heard (as I was only 3 going on 4 year old at the time :lol:) was that a large section of fans had had enough after the performance in Marseille and that being our 15th draw in a season which the football became a bit dour. Whether that was down to Sir Bobby, the people above him or the players' performances I don't know.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:21:39 pm
Some fair rubbish in that IMO.

But the authors will likely be delighted booing foreign soft c***s hasn’t gone out of fashion and nor has bemoaning players that cost money. They’ll still be yearning for the heroes of yesteryear who were real British men and would be wildly out of place in the modern game. They got exactly what they wished for too.

I don’t remember it being that bad at all. And I used to regularly travel up for games from the south coast that could have easily been sacked off. I still think a portion of fans don’t want success because they want to be able to reminisce about a past that didn’t exist whinging as they do so about how it’s not as good as it used to be. Same people who were pro Pards and are ambiguous against Ashley as in the 70s you used to have to bathe in p*ss at half time or whatever bollocks.
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:38:23 pm
It was just apathy from what I recall. My mate and I stayed for the lame lap like, cos we were 15 and had nowhere else to be. You could take the game as a microcosm - we failed to kill off a s*** side and it felt like it'd been the story of the season.

The blame lay - and still lies - with Shepherd and the board. We'd been in the CL the season before, finished third only signed Lee Bowyer. A proper chance to kick on and we well and truly f***ed it.

Said it in the other thread when we were discussing the worst strikers/midfielders/defenders - we got into the CL with a below-par back four. We were punching.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:42:48 pm
We won 2 out of 19 games away from home and for much of the season were battling with Charlton & Aston Villa around the top 5/6 places. Obviously now we’d be chuffed with 5th but from where we should have been, it was a below average season. We were only close to 4th for so long because Liverpool weren’t at their best either. I think 60 points would have got CL football that season.
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:46:32 pm
We won 2 out of 19 games away from home and for much of the season were battling with Charlton & Aston Villa around the top 5/6 places. Obviously now we’d be chuffed with 5th but from where we should have been, it was a below average season. We were only close to 4th for so long because Liverpool weren’t at their best either. I think 60 points would have got CL football that season.

Should've beaten Southampton in the midweek afterwards, too.
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Post by: Disco on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:49:08 pm
We won 2 out of 19 games away from home and for much of the season were battling with Charlton & Aston Villa around the top 5/6 places. Obviously now we’d be chuffed with 5th but from where we should have been, it was a below average season. We were only close to 4th for so long because Liverpool weren’t at their best either. I think 60 points would have got CL football that season.

Should've beaten Southampton in the midweek afterwards, too.

Alan f***ing Blayny. t***.
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Post by: HTT on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:49:22 pm
Twenty six years ago. TWENTY SIX. I am old.

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❤️
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Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 9 May 2019, 06:54:03 pm
We won 2 out of 19 games away from home and for much of the season were battling with Charlton & Aston Villa around the top 5/6 places. Obviously now we’d be chuffed with 5th but from where we should have been, it was a below average season. We were only close to 4th for so long because Liverpool weren’t at their best either. I think 60 points would have got CL football that season.

Should've beaten Southampton in the midweek afterwards, too.

Alan f***ing Blayny. t***.

At least Leandre Griffit went on to be a raving success with Union Royale La Louvière Centre
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:45:28 pm
Hmm, still a pretty controversial take in hindsight imo. Only lost once at home after August and participated in an exciting European campaign which helped to remedy the Partizan fiasco; probably earned them a better send off. They beat Abromivich Chelsea Version I only a week prior to that Wolves game, too.

From what I've heard (as I was only 3 going on 4 year old at the time :lol:) was that a large section of fans had had enough after the performance in Marseille and that being our 15th draw in a season which the football became a bit dour. Whether that was down to Sir Bobby, the people above him or the players' performances I don't know.

:thup:

My dad said fans had enough of too many near misses, that Marseille performance was pitiful mind.
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Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:46:27 pm
That was the moment we should have moved Robson upstrairs as well, some of his decisions that season were utterly bizarre.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:47:28 pm
:thup:
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Post by: Tsunami on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:50:10 pm
That .com report is a bit ott. The players let Bobby down as they threw away a CL place. The booing was for those players and it wasn’t that much where I was. Not many stayed behind because of the performances late in that season.

On a different note; that Leicester first half, bloody hell that was good.
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Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 9 May 2019, 08:56:20 pm
When reading some of the .com reports that pop up on the On This Day section of the home page from like between 1996 and 2005 they seemed to be far more opinionated in match reports than they do now.
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Post by: Raconteur on Friday 10 May 2019, 02:25:29 am
When reading some of the .com reports that pop up on the On This Day section of the home page from like between 1996 and 2005 they seemed to be far more opinionated in match reports than they do now.

They certainly hated Freddy more than they ever did Ashley
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Post by: HTT on Friday 10 May 2019, 08:36:09 am
When reading some of the .com reports that pop up on the On This Day section of the home page from like between 1996 and 2005 they seemed to be far more opinionated in match reports than they do now.

They certainly hated Freddy more than they ever did Ashley

That’s because FS tried to get their domain name off them...
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Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 15 May 2019, 11:38:19 am
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:smitten:
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Post by: Disco on Friday 24 May 2019, 11:11:07 am
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Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 24 May 2019, 11:22:12 am
Also relegated in 09
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Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 09:08:06 am
Finally reached 50 years to the day since we won anything, here's to another 50 more!  :Jonny2J: :'(
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 09:10:26 am
Gerrin!
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Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 09:27:40 am
Ridiculous, we've went that long considering we've have periods where we have had chances to win a trophy.
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Post by: huss9 on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 08:09:16 pm
3 fa cup final defeats
1 league cup final defeat
2 premier league runners up
and numerous semi finals home and in europe.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 11 June 2019, 08:18:21 pm
The 5 closest occasions?

1976 - a wonder goal at 1-1.
1996 - obvious.
2000 - 1-1 and playing well, lose to a goal from a free-kick which should have been retaken with Villa waiting in the final.
2002 - Worthington Cup late on, O’Brien misses a sitter at Chelsea before JFH won it in injury-time. We’d have had mid-table Spurs in the Semi then relegation threatened Blackburn in the Final.
2005 - We p*ssed through the competition up to half-time in the Second Leg of the 1/4s, with AZ and CSKA Moscow to come.


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Post by: Paully on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 12:31:37 pm
Just to cheer everyone up!

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Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 02:52:21 pm
Just to cheer everyone up!

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Happy days when we were a real force. Never to be seen again unfortunately. I do feel for the supporters who weren't around to see how good we were between 93 and 97. Teams used to rock up to SJP and be grateful of leaving without being hammered
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 02:53:22 pm
Said it on the club’s Twitter feed, but today’s Newcastle would have offered £8m, then signed Patrice Loko from PSG for £3.5m instead.
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Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 30 July 2019, 03:08:45 pm
Said it on the club’s Twitter feed, but today’s Newcastle would have offered £8m, then signed Patrice Loko from PSG for £3.5m instead.

Scarily accurate
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Post by: Disco on Wednesday 11 September 2019, 01:48:58 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1558855.stm
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Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 11 September 2019, 02:12:01 pm
Said it on the club’s Twitter feed, but today’s Newcastle would have offered £8m, then signed Patrice Loko from PSG for £3.5m instead.

Pretty impressive to think about Patrice Loko. Perfect for the example :lol:
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Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 11 September 2019, 02:14:20 pm
I was away in Scotland with my Mam when we signed Shearer, my Dad faxed that front page to the hotel reception :lol:

Couldn't believe it.
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Post by: Pandamninator on Thursday 12 September 2019, 04:40:32 am
The 5 closest occasions?

1976 - a wonder goal at 1-1.
1996 - obvious.
2000 - 1-1 and playing well, lose to a goal from a free-kick which should have been retaken with Villa waiting in the final.
2002 - Worthington Cup late on, O’Brien misses a sitter at Chelsea before JFH won it in injury-time. We’d have had mid-table Spurs in the Semi then relegation threatened Blackburn in the Final.
2005 - We p*ssed through the competition up to half-time in the Second Leg of the 1/4s, with AZ and CSKA Moscow to come.

2004 UEFA Cup as well - tied after the first leg of the semi with Woodgate shutting down Drogba.  If Woodgate was fit for the second leg, a single away goal would've done it for us.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 12 September 2019, 06:10:01 am
I didn’t include that because I didn’t think we’d have beaten Rafa’s Valencia in the Final with those injuries.
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Post by: sadnesstan on Thursday 12 September 2019, 09:10:38 am
The 5 closest occasions?

1976 - a wonder goal at 1-1.
1996 - obvious.
2000 - 1-1 and playing well, lose to a goal from a free-kick which should have been retaken with Villa waiting in the final.
2002 - Worthington Cup late on, O’Brien misses a sitter at Chelsea before JFH won it in injury-time. We’d have had mid-table Spurs in the Semi then relegation threatened Blackburn in the Final.
2005 - We p*ssed through the competition up to half-time in the Second Leg of the 1/4s, with AZ and CSKA Moscow to come.

Two consecutive FA Cup finals?
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 12 September 2019, 09:56:30 am
The 5 closest occasions?

1976 - a wonder goal at 1-1.
1996 - obvious.
2000 - 1-1 and playing well, lose to a goal from a free-kick which should have been retaken with Villa waiting in the final.
2002 - Worthington Cup late on, O’Brien misses a sitter at Chelsea before JFH won it in injury-time. We’d have had mid-table Spurs in the Semi then relegation threatened Blackburn in the Final.
2005 - We p*ssed through the competition up to half-time in the Second Leg of the 1/4s, with AZ and CSKA Moscow to come.

Two consecutive FA Cup finals?

Again, I don’t think we had any realistic chance of beating Arsenal or Man Utd in those finals. They were two of the best sides the league has seen.
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 12 September 2019, 09:59:40 am
I’ll throw the 2002 FA Cup in there though. We probably should have beaten Arsenal at home before they tanked us in the replay. It would have been Boro in the Semi then Chelsea who we’d finished higher than in the table in the Final.
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Post by: joeyt on Sunday 15 September 2019, 08:31:04 pm
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Post by: Inferior Acuña on Sunday 15 September 2019, 11:10:30 pm
I’ll throw the 2002 FA Cup in there though. We probably should have beaten Arsenal at home before they tanked us in the replay. It would have been Boro in the Semi then Chelsea who we’d finished higher than in the table in the Final.

Yeah I think about that one.

Also went into the two FA Cup finals thinking we didn't have much chance - then again, it was just one game away.

For me the Chelsea semi final's the closest. A game we were right in, and win that and we're favourites for the final.

The 97 runner up place wasn't so far off either, though it felt a lot different to 96. But that's just a few stupid draws/defeats off.

I get so frustrated thinking about how none of the times we got to finals or semi finals were at our best (either KK or Bobby best).
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Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 15 September 2019, 11:22:27 pm
Chelsea semi was so frustrating, felt we were the better team.