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Title: Tennis
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 18 January 2009, 06:13:08 PM
For any tennis fans on the board just a reminder that the Australian Open starts at midnight tonight.

Federer,Djokovic and Roddick all in action tonight/tomorrow with Nadal and Murray on tuesday.

Can Murray win his first Grand Slam?

Anyway i will be shouting for Nadal.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Kasper on Sunday 18 January 2009, 06:26:56 PM
Jarkko Nieminen :thup:


Bitter defeat against David Nalbandian in the Sydney tournament final last week but this time he'll go all the way :razz:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: pedro111 on Sunday 18 January 2009, 09:38:00 PM
Lol, I thought this was gonna be a thread slagging them off.  The posh "Come on Tim!" type c***s.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 24 January 2009, 09:41:30 AM
Murray grafted the first set 7-5, and is now 2-0 up in ths second. Brilliant game to break his serve in the second game. Starting to rip Melzer apart this set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 24 January 2009, 10:38:08 AM
Only lost 3 more games in the match, ripped him apart in the second set and early third set. Verdasco next.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Saturday 24 January 2009, 10:48:26 AM
Rusedski is coming out of retirement.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Saturday 24 January 2009, 11:15:55 AM
Good bit of crowd trouble the of other day at the Aussie Open. Bosnians and Serbs getting stuck into in each other
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 26 January 2009, 07:56:35 AM
Murray serving to stay in the match (3-5 down in the 5th set).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 26 January 2009, 08:02:46 AM
And he's out.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 26 January 2009, 10:14:03 AM
And he's out.


Get in :celb:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:40:26 PM
Rafa Nadal in real trouble in the last 16! 2 sets to 1 down against Soderling and looks like it's heading for a 4th-set tie-break.

Murray in the Quarters of Roland Garros for the first time in his career.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:42:06 PM
Rafa Nadal in real trouble in the last 16! 2 sets to 1 down against Soderling and looks like it's heading for a 4th-set tie-break.

Murray in the Quarters of Roland Garros for the first time in his career.

He won't lose. He's the sort of infuriating knob he looks like he might lose but wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:50:06 PM
Rafa 2 mini breaks down in the tie-break! 4-1.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:50:16 PM
4-1 down in tie break!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:52:04 PM
5 match points surely hes out
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:53:12 PM
Soderling's just dropped the 1st of his 5 match points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:53:53 PM
Come on, Soderling.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Nadal is out! Thrown his side of the draw wide open inc murray
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:54:28 PM
Get in.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:54:57 PM
First time he's ever lost at the French. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:55:09 PM
Amazing stuff! One of the biggest sporting upsets in years that. Murray's path to the Final might have just cleared there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:55:18 PM
Get in! Federer has to win it now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:56:36 PM
That reaction from Soderling was class. GET OUTTA HERE! :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 31 May 2009, 04:59:31 PM
Gutted, absolutely gutted. First we go down and now my tennis hero is out.

What a week.

What next we go out of business?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 31 May 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Btw Verdasco to win it.


Maybe not, lost the first set 6-2 against Davydenko
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 05:22:38 PM
Tsonga is a good outside bet to win. Played really well against an excellent clay courter in Monaco and with the crowd behind him he may do it.

I can see Federer choking tbh. This is his big big chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 31 May 2009, 05:23:40 PM
I have £5 on Tsonga to win it. The odds were just too good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 May 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Tsonga is a good outside bet to win. Played really well against an excellent clay courter in Monaco and with the crowd behind him he may do it.

I can see Federer choking tbh. This is his big big chance.

Why would Federer choke? He just beat Nadal two weeks ago. He's not playing his best tennis right now, losing a set here and there, but as long as gets to the final, that's okay. Djokovic, someone who I thought could beat him in the semis, is out so his side of the draw is now free.

I think Tsonga will give Federer some trouble, but if he loses to Del Potro tomorrow then you can book Federer for the final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 05:56:56 PM
Tsonga is a good outside bet to win. Played really well against an excellent clay courter in Monaco and with the crowd behind him he may do it.

I can see Federer choking tbh. This is his big big chance.


Why would Federer choke? He just beat Nadal two weeks ago. He's not playing his best tennis right now, losing a set here and there, but as long as gets to the final, that's okay. Djokovic, someone who I thought could beat him in the semis, is out so his side of the draw is now free.

I think Tsonga will give Federer some trouble, but if he loses to Del Potro tomorrow then you can book Federer for the final.

Don't get me wrong, I love Federer. However, he's getting increasingly desperate and frustrated. He wouldn't beat Murray imo. Murray would frustrate him and Fed would beat himself. Tsonga would challenge him but Fed would beat him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 May 2009, 06:00:06 PM
Murray? Murray hasn't won 5 matches in a row on clay in his whole career. Murray's not winning the French.

The frenchies will give Federer trouble (Monfils if he beats Roddick tomorrow, and Tsonga in the semis). I fancy Gonzalez to beat Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 06:04:21 PM
Murray? Murray hasn't won 5 matches in a row on clay in his whole career. Murray's not winning the French.

The frenchies will give Federer trouble (Monfils if he beats Roddick tomorrow, and Tsonga in the semis). I fancy Gonzalez to beat Murray.

I see your point but I think Murray has a shot. Gonzalez is as erratic as they come. He's there for the taking and always is. Its doubtful Murray would beat Davydenko though, unless the Russian has some money on it. Murray would beat Federer if he did somehow make the final.

Shotmakers like Monfils and Tsonga won't beat Fed at the clay for me. He's too smooth around the court and can out do them in terms of shotmaking. Its the baseliners who will do him. The manner in which Federer played against Acususo was very worrying.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 May 2009, 06:05:36 PM
By the way, best thing about Soderling beating Nadal is that they really don't like each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwvgnYDTTQ0

And Nadal just whooped him 6-1, 6-0 a month or ago in which Soderling tried to cheat for a point. Must be tough for Rafa to lose on any occasion but to lose to Soderling must be f***ing awful.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 31 May 2009, 06:23:57 PM
Rocked to my socks. WTF is going on?

Murray should be licking his fingers at this, but when anything goes for him, he cocks up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 31 May 2009, 06:52:15 PM
Rocked to my socks. WTF is going on?

Murray should be licking his fingers at this, but when anything goes for him, he cocks up.

Bit harsh. The only time he's lost pretty unexpectedly when it matters over the past 18 months was when he lost in the Australian Open.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Oakie Doke on Sunday 31 May 2009, 07:13:22 PM
Tsonga is Charles N'Zogbia's cousin.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 31 May 2009, 07:20:10 PM
Rocked to my socks. WTF is going on?

Murray should be licking his fingers at this, but when anything goes for him, he cocks up.

Bit harsh. The only time he's lost pretty unexpectedly when it matters over the past 18 months was when he lost in the Australian Open.

I'm talking his whole career. He never seems to get beaten by a small margin when he has a good chance.

Starting from 08 Australian open he went out in the first round, 3rd in the French, Quarters at Wimbledon in which he was destroyed, US Open final destroyed, Australian 09 4th round.

Absolutely unbelievable chance for him, if Federer gets knocked out, i fancy him to win it, don't want/expect him to however.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 1 June 2009, 09:18:28 AM
Really interested in the French for the first time in years now. Huge number of players who could win it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 1 June 2009, 12:25:48 PM
Haas takes the first set 7-6. God damnit, Federer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Slugsy on Monday 1 June 2009, 12:27:42 PM
Rocked to my socks. WTF is going on?

Murray should be licking his fingers at this, but when anything goes for him, he cocks up.

I'm a Murray fan but agree with you on this, he does tend to c*ck up the open goals.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 1 June 2009, 01:00:34 PM
Haas up two sets to love....
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 1 June 2009, 02:12:48 PM
2 sets all into the 5th

Come on Haas
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 1 June 2009, 02:50:59 PM
Fed wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Monday 1 June 2009, 03:45:34 PM
Tsonga is Charles N'Zogbia's cousin.

Who still plays for us according to the commentators
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Oakie Doke on Monday 1 June 2009, 05:47:26 PM
Tsonga is Charles N'Zogbia's cousin.

Who still plays for us according to the commentators
they certainly both have the same miserable expression.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Monday 1 June 2009, 07:21:15 PM
Well that shows how much I know. Tsonga deservedly battered by Del Potro.

Btw, any Federer fans out there should have a look at his facebook fan page. He updates it regularly and has posted videos as well. Bit sad but whatever, I'm a fanboy.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Monday 1 June 2009, 07:25:28 PM
To all male tennis fans!!

(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81491103.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCCE1B559B7480BC935A5397277B4DC33E)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Oakie Doke on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 02:07:25 PM
I think Murray will get knocked out today  :sadnod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 02:09:10 PM
To all male tennis fans!!

(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81491103.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCCE1B559B7480BC935A5397277B4DC33E)

Bloody hell.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 02:10:48 PM
(http://www.anvari.org/db/fun/Sports/Anna_Kournikova_and_the_Gay_Sweeper.jpg)

I know it's old but it's good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 02:28:26 PM
Hadn't seen it before :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 04:12:23 PM
Gonzalez wins the first set against Murray 6-3.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:39:12 PM
Murray pretty much out.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:40:46 PM
3-6 6-3 0-6 3-5 Murray/Gonzalez

currently.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Breaks back to love!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:43:33 PM
Bloke on SSN getting distracted and telling people about the tennis during reports about cricket and the newspaper back pages. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:45:52 PM
f***ed it. Out.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 05:48:45 PM
Surely has to drop down the world rankings now? The man is over-rated.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 06:37:10 PM
Surely has to drop down the world rankings now? The man is over-rated.

Wouldn't have thought so. If anything, he'll go further ahead of Djokovic and slightly closer to Nadal due to getting further than those two, Nadal & Djokovic doing worse than last year, and Murray doing better.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 07:11:02 PM
Yep, clay is pretty much Murray's worst surface, so its the time of year where a QF is a huge achievement, whereas some of the clay stars haven't performed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 07:24:23 PM
If Murray can get to the Semi Final at Wimbledon and match his US Open run of last year, he has a great chance of ending the year in the top 2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 07:36:22 PM
If Federer had lost yesterday, Murray would actually end the tournament as world number 2. He's really close to Federer now, but actually, if Federer can win this, he'll move a lot closer to Nadal too. It's really tight at the top.

Only Monfils can beat Federer out of all the guys that are left. If he wins tomorrow, he'll win it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 2 June 2009, 10:46:21 PM
if anyone thinks murray is crap on today's performance, then they are very short sighted

gonzalez was awesome today, i've never seen anyone use such a forehand in tennis, it was like a bullet when on target
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 3 June 2009, 09:56:35 AM
if anyone thinks murray is crap on today's performance, then they are very short sighted

gonzalez was awesome today, i've never seen anyone use such a forehand in tennis, it was like a bullet when on target

Not as good as Soderling was against Davydenko. Nearly every shot was a winner.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Wednesday 3 June 2009, 11:06:38 AM
if anyone thinks murray is crap on today's performance, then they are very short sighted

gonzalez was awesome today, i've never seen anyone use such a forehand in tennis, it was like a bullet when on target
Not as good as Soderling was against Davydenko. Nearly every shot was a winner.

I agree with neesy here, although both have an amazing forehand Gonzalez on his day can hit winners from both sides from anywhere in the court, the semi will be interesting. Looking forward to Monfils and Federer today.

Federer/Gonzalez final i say.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 3 June 2009, 11:36:12 AM
if anyone thinks murray is crap on today's performance, then they are very short sighted

gonzalez was awesome today, i've never seen anyone use such a forehand in tennis, it was like a bullet when on target
Not as good as Soderling was against Davydenko. Nearly every shot was a winner.

I agree with neesy here, although both have an amazing forehand Gonzalez on his day can hit winners from both sides from anywhere in the court, the semi will be interesting. Looking forward to Monfils and Federer today.

Federer/Gonzalez final i say.

If Federer and Monfils play as they have throughout the tournament so far then i can see Monfils causing another upset. If he gets the momentum early and the support of the home crowd then we could have a classic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Thursday 4 June 2009, 01:42:37 PM
Find it really strange how he's so gash on clay, considering he spent most of his formative years training in Spain on the clay.

Right again.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Friday 5 June 2009, 10:51:50 AM
Find it really strange how he's so gash on clay, considering he spent most of his formative years training in Spain on the clay.

Right again.

I don't think you were right tbh, because you said Murray should win it. Which was never the case. Didn't see any of it this year, but it sounds like he's improving, it is strange it's his weakness though as you say.

Much more interesting now it isn't a foregone conclusion, eh?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 5 June 2009, 01:17:23 PM
Soderling a set up against Gonzalez.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 5 June 2009, 03:34:59 PM
I can see Del Potro winning today
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 5 June 2009, 06:06:57 PM
del Potro up two sets to one and quite frankly, dominating Federer, who hasn't broken del Potro in the whole match.

Federer needs to play unbelievably to win this match because he's not losing these points; it's been won by del Potro.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 5 June 2009, 06:55:55 PM
Federer won the 4th 6-1, breaking dP twice. He's up 2-0 in the fifth and playing some exquisite tennis right now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 5 June 2009, 07:36:47 PM
Federer takes the 5th, 6-4.

Federer vs Soderling on Sunday.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Friday 5 June 2009, 08:53:00 PM
Thank the lord for that. Federer really showed the heart and will of a champion today.

Del Potro was sensational though. I'd be surprised if he doesn't do the career slam if he can master grass. I reckon he could be looking at ten slams with his natural physical attributes and hitting power.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 5 June 2009, 10:23:25 PM
Yeah, I thought that when he was smacking balls right, left and center in the first and third sets. If he can learn to move better, get fitter then he's all the attributes to become a multiple grand-slam champion. I'd hesitate to say that he can win every slam because there are a few young players who should get better, and I think many people are quick to say that about new players because of the bar that Federer has set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 5 June 2009, 11:48:04 PM
When was the last time there were 5 world-class players all capable of beating each other on any given day? Think Del Potro will break into the top 4 soon, and for the next few years, there'll be nowt between Nadal, Federer, Murray, Del Potro & Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 6 June 2009, 12:13:59 PM
When was the last time there were 5 world-class players all capable of beating each other on any given day? Think Del Potro will break into the top 4 soon, and for the next few years, there'll be nowt between Nadal, Federer, Murray, Del Potro & Djokovic.

nah, Federer is on the way out now and beyond this year is finished as a top 4 player imo. His shotmaking ability isn't anywhere near what it was 2/3 years ago and turning 28 in a couple of months, he'll inevitably start to slow down and probably has already

I might just place some money on Nadal, Del Potro and Murray all winning a grand slam in 2011
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 02:23:13 PM
Soderling is choking.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 7 June 2009, 02:38:38 PM
Federer is sensational. Soderling's groundstrokes look a bit laboured though. Combination of tiredness and pressure looks to have taken hold.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 02:48:27 PM
What a f***ing dickhead.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 7 June 2009, 02:49:33 PM
What a f***ing dickhead.

How s*** was the stewarding there? He could have done anything.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 7 June 2009, 03:05:48 PM
When was the last time there were 5 world-class players all capable of beating each other on any given day? Think Del Potro will break into the top 4 soon, and for the next few years, there'll be nowt between Nadal, Federer, Murray, Del Potro & Djokovic.

Plenty of times, man. There's actually been plenty of times where all the top 5 were grand-slam winners yet this current generation can't even boast that.

At one point, you had Lendl, Connors, McEnroe, Wilander and Borg all hovering near the top. This current bunch aren't good enough yet.

Soderling's still hanging around in this set. Not over yet.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 7 June 2009, 03:07:52 PM
Soderling not even getting close to Federer's serve.

Starting to rain now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 7 June 2009, 03:27:26 PM
7-6 Federer takes the second set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 7 June 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Come on Soderling, take it to 4 at least!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 04:09:33 PM
Federer. :notworthy:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 04:19:28 PM
'Me and my coach were yolking...' :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 7 June 2009, 04:42:36 PM
Federer  :smitten:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 7 June 2009, 05:46:32 PM
Surely now Federere has cemented his place as the All Time Men's no. 2 after TIm Henman.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:00:57 PM
Soderling is even more of a t*** than Murray. URGH.

Rog  :celb:

Sad for Rafa like, but suppose he had to succumb to injury at some point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:06:33 PM
Soderling is even more of a t*** than Murray. URGH.

Rog  :celb:

Sad for Rafa like, but suppose he had to succumb to injury at some point.

:iamatwat:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:10:02 PM
Soderling is even more of a t*** than Murray. URGH.

Rog  :celb:

Sad for Rafa like, but suppose he had to succumb to injury at some point.

:iamatwat:

Why doth one jest?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:11:53 PM
I just find it funny that you're always on about Murray blaming injury etc and here you are doing the same.

Why don't you like Soderling btw? Is it because he took the p*ss out of your darling at Wimbledon? :razz:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:29:46 PM
I just find it funny that you're always on about Murray blaming injury etc and here you are doing the same.

Why don't you like Soderling btw? Is it because he took the p*ss out of your darling at Wimbledon? :razz:

Nadal has been struggling with a knee injury for quite some time now, and it NEVER get's mentioned, Murray farts and he's struggling with a crippling injury, blisters etc ffs. Nadal has come out and said that he didn't play great, no mention of injury whatsoever, you can tell he struggled, comprehensively outplayed by someone that's never gone past the 4th round of a slam before. The man who Nadal had just beaten 6-1 6-0 in Rome.


Soderling is what's wrong in a sportsman, i'll never forget the way he went on at Wimbledon in 07 i think it was. At least Murray doesn't act in cretenous ways during the course of matches or in his general manner, apart from the odd moan at the wind for his defeats. Berdych is another one who goaded Rafa in Madrid, stupid little characters that do tennis no favours, it's tennis and it's got no place in the game, not like football. Tipsaravic another t***.

Rafa crying at the end tells more of the story. He's out of Queen's and rumour has it, may be a doubt for Wimbledon. Suppose there has always been the question mark over his longevity though.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article6440055.ece



Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Sunday 7 June 2009, 08:49:07 PM
His style was always going to make him crumble sooner or later.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Saturday 13 June 2009, 08:32:03 PM
Are Blake and Roddick both American? SSN just said last time they met "the American" won.

Murray looking good as well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Saturday 13 June 2009, 08:55:59 PM
Eh? When Blake and Murray last met the American won.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Saturday 13 June 2009, 09:17:40 PM
O rite don't think they said Murray, just "they" just after talking about their match today.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 14 June 2009, 12:47:10 AM
Blake is actually half english on his mother's side
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 14 June 2009, 03:26:26 PM
Fair play to Murray, he's bossed this tournament without ever getting past 3rd gear
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Sunday 14 June 2009, 03:33:39 PM
Not dropped a set, pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:10:20 PM
Fair play to Murray for winning but the draw opened up for him, obviously you can only beat what is put in front of you but it feels a bit hollow. Take last year's semi final line up:

Nadal (1) beat Roddick (3)
Djokovic (2) beat Nalbandian (4)

Even the quarters, where Murray withdrew (easy Testa ;) ) included Gasquet, Hewitt and Karlovic.

This year we had Mardy Fish (top 20 at best), Steve Darcis, Ferrero (ok, former World Number 1 but currently ranked 100 odd and this is grass not clay)

Having said that, the 3 times Henman made the final he played a load of s*** en route, struggled in every other match then lost to Hewitt/Sampras.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:24:11 PM
Duff11 with a nice summary. Shan't be this easy at Wimby. He'll do well though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:32:50 PM
Testa bricking it. :lol:

What's the craic with Nadal then? Is he injured or what?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:34:18 PM
Aye is he playing Wimbledon or not?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:35:40 PM
I can't believe some people who just criticise him either way. Who the f*** cares if Nadal and Federer weren't here? You can only beat what's in front of you, and he's done it very well indeed. Anyone however who thinks Wimbledon will be anything like this needs their head testing.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 05:46:26 PM
I can't believe some people who just criticise him either way. Who the f*** cares if Nadal and Federer weren't here? You can only beat what's in front of you, and he's done it very well indeed. Anyone however who thinks Wimbledon will be anything like this needs their head testing.

I'm not criticising him, it's a fact that it won't be as easy at Wimbledon.

I'm not bricking it either, still don't think he'll win Wimbledon.

Rafa won't travel to London until tuesday, he's had no preparation, tendinitis in both knees. However he's been playing with that for years, only missing one or two tournaments due to that injury. He'll probably start, and end up having to pull out.

Looks good for Murray even though i think the pressure will get to him at some stage, nobody is talking about Djok though, even though he got beat in the Halle and had a shaky start in his grass preparation, he's still very good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:03:53 PM
The draw is on Friday incidentally, seeds announced on Wednesday I think. I guess if Nadal is struggling, from a Murray point of view it wouldn't be awful news if they get put in the same half. Problem with the grass court season is that it lasts less than a month and it's difficult to pick any upsets, for example del Potro has been pretty consistent all year but I've no idea how good he is on grass.

And if you're a fan of supporting the underdog Brits like I am, here's our wildcard entries:

Alex Bogdanovic (something like played 7, lost 7 at Wimbledon.)
Dan Evans (Young lad)
Joshua Goodall (Not very good)
James Ward (Young lad)

We've got the usual mob in qualifying as well, Bloomfield's been in the draw a few times and has a big serve but nout else, Chris Eaton was great last year but been struggling to replicate that form, and Jonny Marray had a little run a few years ago. And a bunch of kids in there.

Just to avoid being sexist, the British women are doing ok these days, Keothavong in the top 60 and gains automatic entry. Baltacha has another wildcard, and so does last year's junior winner Laura Robson. So we might have a woman in the second week! (Or not)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:10:00 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Keefaz on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:14:52 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Bring me back the head of Cliff Richard.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:15:10 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Tickets: how/where/how much?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:21:06 PM
Haha NOT. Laura Robson is a raw talent, but won't be a top top player. Not to mention she got dumped out early of the French junior.

It's absolute madness that we have aproximately 1 top class player in Andy Murray, who incidentally got good because he went to Spain, considering the facilities of the LTA are regarded as up their with the very best. Kids don't even get there until the age of 14 or 15, which in the grand scheme of things, is too old. Then when they do get there, they get absolutely everything, don't have to work for a thing. Think it was Ivanovic who recently done an interview pointing out the fact that the kids here don't know what they have,how rare it is to have opportunities like our kids do, Jamie Murray has said it in the past. Roehampton is awesome.

The fact is, unless your moderately rich and extremely talented/motivated, or having pyscho parents who push you, you won't be able to anything in British tennis, we need some hard luck stories. Really unfortunate.



Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:24:44 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Tickets: how/where/how much?

Haven't a clue I'm afraid, my mam's sorted it all (and paid). :smug: Think we're on Court 1, I'm not 100% though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:25:55 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Tickets: how/where/how much?

Haven't a clue I'm afraid, my mam's sorted it all (and paid). :smug: Think we're on Court 1, I'm not 100% though.

Find out for me please man. Do you just get a seat for the day like?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:27:30 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Tickets: how/where/how much?

Haven't a clue I'm afraid, my mam's sorted it all (and paid). :smug: Think we're on Court 1, I'm not 100% though.

Find out for me please man. Do you just get a seat for the day like?

Have you entered the public ballot?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:28:32 PM
No, I haven't got a clue about getting tickets hence me asking these questions.

My mum's always wanted to go that's all.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:31:28 PM
No, I haven't got a clue about getting tickets hence me asking these questions.

My mum's always wanted to go that's all.

They only release like 400-500 tickets on the actual day for the main courts, more so centre court. That's if you are wanting to queue overnight and things
The public ballot usual starts in the august so you've missed that.

Your most realistic option is to buy a debenture one OR pay massive amounts on ebay and the like.

Depends if you are going to see big names, the big courts or you're just wanting to watch some tennis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:32:17 PM
Haha NOT. Laura Robson is a raw talent, but won't be a top top player. Not to mention she got dumped out early of the French junior.

It's absolute madness that we have aproximately 1 top class player in Andy Murray, who incidentally got good because he went to Spain, considering the facilities of the LTA are regarded as up their with the very best. Kids don't even get there until the age of 14 or 15, which in the grand scheme of things, is too old. Then when they do get there, they get absolutely everything, don't have to work for a thing. Think it was Ivanovic who recently done an interview pointing out the fact that the kids here don't know what they have,how rare it is to have opportunities like our kids do, Jamie Murray has said it in the past. Roehampton is awesome.

The fact is, unless your moderately rich and extremely talented/motivated, or having pyscho parents who push you, you won't be able to anything in British tennis, we need some hard luck stories. Really unfortunate.





What makes you so sure Robson won't be a top top player? Admittedly I've seen very little of her but I would have thought winning the girls title at 14 would set her up pretty well? Especially as the women's game at the minute seems to have about 8 players who can beat each other consistently. Agree she won't do much in the main draw, it's a big ask really. Keothavong getting beat 6-0 6-0 by Safina at the French was a bit of a reminder how big the gulf can be.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:34:50 PM
Haha NOT. Laura Robson is a raw talent, but won't be a top top player. Not to mention she got dumped out early of the French junior.

It's absolute madness that we have aproximately 1 top class player in Andy Murray, who incidentally got good because he went to Spain, considering the facilities of the LTA are regarded as up their with the very best. Kids don't even get there until the age of 14 or 15, which in the grand scheme of things, is too old. Then when they do get there, they get absolutely everything, don't have to work for a thing. Think it was Ivanovic who recently done an interview pointing out the fact that the kids here don't know what they have,how rare it is to have opportunities like our kids do, Jamie Murray has said it in the past. Roehampton is awesome.

The fact is, unless your moderately rich and extremely talented/motivated, or having pyscho parents who push you, you won't be able to anything in British tennis, we need some hard luck stories. Really unfortunate.





What makes you so sure Robson won't be a top top player? Admittedly I've seen very little of her but I would have thought winning the girls title at 14 would set her up pretty well? Especially as the women's game at the minute seems to have about 8 players who can beat each other consistently. Agree she won't do much in the main draw, it's a big ask really. Keothavong getting beat 6-0 6-0 by Safina at the French was a bit of a reminder how big the gulf can be.

I've seen her, and she's just quite powerful, not particularly clever. She's done nothing on the circuit, she won in Sunderland mind you, but that was against all British players.

Another thing, Eastern European girls in abundance with moderate/massive talent.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:37:28 PM
Haha NOT. Laura Robson is a raw talent, but won't be a top top player. Not to mention she got dumped out early of the French junior.

It's absolute madness that we have aproximately 1 top class player in Andy Murray, who incidentally got good because he went to Spain, considering the facilities of the LTA are regarded as up their with the very best. Kids don't even get there until the age of 14 or 15, which in the grand scheme of things, is too old. Then when they do get there, they get absolutely everything, don't have to work for a thing. Think it was Ivanovic who recently done an interview pointing out the fact that the kids here don't know what they have,how rare it is to have opportunities like our kids do, Jamie Murray has said it in the past. Roehampton is awesome.

The fact is, unless your moderately rich and extremely talented/motivated, or having pyscho parents who push you, you won't be able to anything in British tennis, we need some hard luck stories. Really unfortunate.





What makes you so sure Robson won't be a top top player? Admittedly I've seen very little of her but I would have thought winning the girls title at 14 would set her up pretty well? Especially as the women's game at the minute seems to have about 8 players who can beat each other consistently. Agree she won't do much in the main draw, it's a big ask really. Keothavong getting beat 6-0 6-0 by Safina at the French was a bit of a reminder how big the gulf can be.

I've seen her, and she's just quite powerful, not particularly clever. She's done nothing on the circuit, she won in Sunderland mind you, but that was against all British players.

Another thing, Eastern European girls in abundance with moderate/massive talent.

Fair point, there seems to be a new Russian girl on the charge every week. Least the women's game isn't predictable, even if it's got no real British star.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:38:01 PM
Haha NOT. Laura Robson is a raw talent, but won't be a top top player. Not to mention she got dumped out early of the French junior.

It's absolute madness that we have aproximately 1 top class player in Andy Murray, who incidentally got good because he went to Spain, considering the facilities of the LTA are regarded as up their with the very best. Kids don't even get there until the age of 14 or 15, which in the grand scheme of things, is too old. Then when they do get there, they get absolutely everything, don't have to work for a thing. Think it was Ivanovic who recently done an interview pointing out the fact that the kids here don't know what they have,how rare it is to have opportunities like our kids do, Jamie Murray has said it in the past. Roehampton is awesome.

The fact is, unless your moderately rich and extremely talented/motivated, or having pyscho parents who push you, you won't be able to anything in British tennis, we need some hard luck stories. Really unfortunate.





What makes you so sure Robson won't be a top top player? Admittedly I've seen very little of her but I would have thought winning the girls title at 14 would set her up pretty well? Especially as the women's game at the minute seems to have about 8 players who can beat each other consistently. Agree she won't do much in the main draw, it's a big ask really. Keothavong getting beat 6-0 6-0 by Safina at the French was a bit of a reminder how big the gulf can be.

I've seen her, and she's just quite powerful, not particularly clever. She's done nothing on the circuit, she won in Sunderland mind you, but that was against all British players.

Another thing, Eastern European girls in abundance with moderate/massive talent.

 :aww:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 14 June 2009, 06:53:24 PM
At one point like 20 or something of the top 50 were from slavic countries,20/30 years ago there wasn't any, 5-6 years ago there was 11 or so in the top 150. Something in their system, or maybe their desire, bad circumstances is the reason. Or maybe it's just like the football and most of them go elsewhere to really better themselves, like Murray. Youzhny, Myskina, Safina, Dementieva......... it's never ending.

Kuznetsova the pick of the bunch like, it's surprising that she's never dominated tennis.

To be fair though, the Russian players rarely garner any respect in the world of tennis, barely two of them are pleasing on the eye (tennis wise), they are brought up watching the Americans, and come into tennis more so to cash in if you like on merchandising etc. Look at Chakvetadze, semi-finals of the US open in 07, infact she was pretty much fantastic all year, the commericial opportunities  came to her very quick, and she's more or less fell off the radar to 32nd, doing nothing on the circuit (apart from taking Venus close over 3 sets in Rome)or in slams.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 18 June 2009, 06:43:09 PM
Wimbledon draw tomorrow and it all starts on Monday.

Nadal to announce tomorrow if he will play or not. He just lost an exhibition match to Hewitt and could barely move so it looks very unlikely he will play. Not just a huge loss for me as a fan but to the tournament if he pulls out,.
COME ON RAFA. 
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Thursday 18 June 2009, 06:50:02 PM
So basically if Murray wins, he won't have "won" because everyone will use the totally flawed argument of "but Nadal wasn't there".
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Thursday 18 June 2009, 06:52:13 PM
So basically if Murray wins, he won't have "won" because everyone will use the totally flawed argument of "but Nadal wasn't there".

Got it in one.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Thursday 18 June 2009, 06:52:15 PM
So basically if Murray wins, he won't have "won" because everyone will use the totally flawed argument of "but Nadal wasn't there".
Even if he does play it will be "He was only 50% fit".
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Wullie on Thursday 18 June 2009, 09:54:31 PM
I'm going to Wimbledon on the first Saturday. :)

Tickets: how/where/how much?

Haven't a clue I'm afraid, my mam's sorted it all (and paid). :smug: Think we're on Court 1, I'm not 100% though.

Find out for me please man. Do you just get a seat for the day like?

Been meaning to get back to you on this Dave, apologies, only just got round to asking her:

http://www.newmarketholidays.co.uk/genre.asp?dlc=11960&WS=4&pid=364&sMnem=SPECIAL&gMnem=SPORTEV&fNPC=NMP

This is who we're going with. You get a hotel for the night and a ticket for the day (we're actually on Ct3 but you can go round all the outside courts if there's nowt good on there at a certain time). Have to book your own transport though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Thursday 18 June 2009, 09:55:26 PM
Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Thursday 18 June 2009, 11:47:18 PM
Did anyone hear Murray on FiveLive on Wednesday? The man can't even talk with saying ahhhhhh uhhhhhhhh ohhhhh after every word, ARGH. Quietly scathing of the LTA.

Hatred aside, for him to get to the final would be remarkable, because most people forget, grass is by no means his best surface either. God forbid that he does.

Why are people making excuses for him already? You say if he wins it's because Nadal wasn't there not even at 50%. Then if he goes out early, what's the excuse then?

If he wins, he wins, he can only beat what's there but it'd be daft to say if he come against a 100% Nadal somewhere in the draw it wouldn't have been another matter.

Nadal tonked by Hewitt, completely struggled, shadow of himself, struggling to bend on his serve.

Gael Monfils is out too.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Thursday 18 June 2009, 11:51:01 PM
Hoping Federer wins it.  He is a genuine great and a really nice guy to boot.

Murray is just an odious little c***.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Friday 19 June 2009, 12:00:08 AM
Would like to see Federer win it and pass Sampras for major titles won.

It'll be an historic moment and odds are it'll be happening either at Wimbledon or Flushing Meadows this year, and since I'll see more of Wimbledon then I hope it's there.

Shame Nadal won't be there though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Incognito on Friday 19 June 2009, 12:57:46 AM
Would Murray become the no. 2 seed then,if Rafa cries off?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:27:55 AM
If he pulled out beforehand then yes.

Does number 3 seed meet number 1 or number 2 seed if all goes according to seedings in the Semi Final?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:29:54 AM
If he pulled out beforehand then yes.

Does number 3 seed meet number 1 or number 2 seed if all goes according to seedings in the Semi Final?

Not definite but I think Murray is in Federer's half of the draw and Djokovic in Nadal.

However the draw will be made before Nadal makes a decision so dont know how things will change.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:29:58 AM
If he pulled out beforehand then yes.

Does number 3 seed meet number 1 or number 2 seed if all goes according to seedings in the Semi Final?

I think that's drawn. Quite looking forward to Wimbledon this year, missed pretty much all of it due to holiday last time around.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:49:06 AM
If it is Murray-Federer in the Semis, Murray will overtake him as world number 2 if he beats him, regardless of how he did in the Final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 10:02:54 AM
If Nadal doesn't enter the draw, it means Murray will be the no.2 seed

in which case he'll only be able to meet Federer in the final
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 10:15:44 AM
Murray can only meet Federer in the final.

Will play Kendrick in the first round.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 10:39:48 AM
So Nadal is in the draw, but might pull out today
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 12:14:59 PM
So Nadal is in the draw, but might pull out today

Aye Nadal has a match against Wawrinka at about 2.30pm and will decide after that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 12:16:57 PM
Blatantly a NO DEAL if yesterday's match with Hewitt is owt to go by
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 12:18:59 PM
Blatantly a NO DEAL if yesterday's match with Hewitt is owt to go by

Aye you would have thought so. Shame as well because he has a decent draw.

Still i live in hope of a miracle recovery.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Friday 19 June 2009, 01:38:58 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1194086/Andy-Murray-v-Fred-Perry-The-different-lives-loves-young-pretender-triple-Wimbledon-champ.html
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: David Icke - Son of God on Friday 19 June 2009, 01:52:49 PM
I think Federer to win but I fancy Murray to get to the final, regardless of whether Nadal plays or not. He's clearly not going to be anywhere near full fitness and he has Hewitt in the second round so expect an upset there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 19 June 2009, 06:52:17 PM
Nadal conference is at 7pm where he announces what he's doing.

If he drops out:

If seeds 1-4 withdraw before the order of play is released on Sunday, the fifth seed takes their place in the draw. The 17th seed takes the place of the fifth seed.

I've no idea if that means all the seed numbers go up 1 (eg Federer 1, Murray 2) or whether we just play without a number 1 seed, but whatever. Del Potro wouldn't be too upset I don't think as he's in the same quarter as Djokovic and Haas at the minute.

The Shitbrits (Boggo, Goodall etc) all got hard draws, be surprised if any of them even take a set:

Brit men: Dan Evans v Nikolay Davydenko. Alex Bogdanovic v Tomas Berdych. Joshua Goodall v Michael Llodra. James Ward v Fernando Verdasco.

Goodnight vienna.

As for Murray, he'll beat Kendrick with ease, then he'll probably play Gulbis who can be pretty good on his day, might go to 4 sets but Murray should still win. Taylor Dent has come through qualifying, he's about 6 foot 50 with a massive serve but has been crippled for years now, he'll probably be knackered by the time the 3rd round comes around so that'll be ok. Then it'll be Wawrinka or Safin, Safin will be having a twist about grass as usual but he's considering retirement, Wawrinka is dangerous and has a decent record against Murray iirc. Then if he's still in, quarters against probably Gonzalez or Simon (James Blake is also in here but if Nadal drops out Blake takes Del Potro's place..) Gonzalez is a bit of a maverick, once his forehand gets going like at the French it could go either way. Then the potential Semi with Nadal who if he's still walking by then will surely be feeling it.

So not the worst draw, I just wish Nadal was 100%, for all I'd like Murray to win a slam it'll take the gloss off a bit that the World Number 1 can barely move at the moment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:05:07 PM
Still waiting any time now, press were only expecting a press conference if he was pulling out......
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:05:43 PM
Please Rafa be fit
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:12:19 PM
And here we go...........
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:13:16 PM
He's not playing :(
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:14:27 PM
Come on Roddick.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:15:27 PM
:lol:

Actually, Roddick was in Nadal's bit of the draw, and he's been like a new player this year
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:16:31 PM
Absolutely gutted.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:26:16 PM
Roddick hasn't got a hope in hell
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:27:58 PM
Roddick hasn't got a hope in hell

I know, plus he is carrying an injury. Anyone know how the draw has changed now?

Huge chance for Murray now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:28:49 PM
Pussy.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:30:03 PM
That pretty much ends his reign as number one, but he will be back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:30:52 PM
Roddick hasn't got a hope in hell

I know, plus he is carrying an injury. Anyone know how the draw has changed now?

Huge chance for Murray now.

Like I said on the previous page, Del Potro replaces Nadal, Blake replaces del Potro, somebody else replaces Blake.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:38:09 PM
That pretty much ends his reign as number one, but he will be back.

Haha, Testa will eat you alive for that post.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:44:35 PM
That pretty much ends his reign as number one, but he will be back.

Haha, Testa will eat you alive for that post.

Im ready ;D
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Friday 19 June 2009, 07:57:18 PM
Mon Federer or Murray
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 08:24:18 PM
The two best players by far in that draw are Federer and Murray

Should they meet in the final, and I think they will, I can only see it going Murray's way tbf
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:03:00 PM
Any chance Murray could end the year as world number 1?

I'd imagine if he reaches the final of Wimbledon, and wins his strongest tournament at Flushing Meadows, he must be pretty close.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:05:35 PM
Any chance Murray could end the year as world number 1?

I'd imagine if he reaches the final of Wimbledon, and wins his strongest tournament at Flushing Meadows, he must be pretty close.

Given his wins in the masters series, should he win a couple more plus the 2 remaining slams then yes, I think he would
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Any chance Murray could end the year as world number 1?

I'd imagine if he reaches the final of Wimbledon, and wins his strongest tournament at Flushing Meadows, he must be pretty close.

If that were to happen, he almost certainly would finish no.1 based on the points Rafa and Federer will drop as a results of him winning both. It would of course be dependent on him at least defending his points from last year, which a hard court season without a fit Rafa would certainly allow.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 19 June 2009, 09:13:47 PM
William Hill are offering just 5/1 for him to end the year number 1.

You can get 1/2 for him not to win either Wimbledon or the US Open, 6/4 for him to win one of them, and a decent looking 12/1 for him to win both.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 20 June 2009, 01:22:06 AM
Heading to wimbledon for the first few days on Monday, should be good.

I reckon Murray will show up for this. As hard I find it to imagine a brit winning Wimbledon he has gone from being the british favourite to the worlds favourite.

Well done to the lad, he has been brilliant. An inspiration!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Saturday 20 June 2009, 01:23:38 AM
Just wanged some money on Murray. He's got no chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Saturday 20 June 2009, 05:18:56 PM
That pretty much ends his reign as number one, but he will be back.

Haha, Testa will eat you alive for that post.

Why? It's a fair statement, it's knee tendonitis, it's not just going to disappear.

It won't be anything like a Mauresmo dissapearance but, you can only summise the worst.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Saturday 20 June 2009, 06:37:23 PM
They reckon Nadal's got KNEE chance of ever competing again at the top level. His legacy lies in tatters now and he's become an embarrassment to the sport. If he'd followed Tim Henman's professional example we wouldn't be seeing this fiasco emerge.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Saturday 20 June 2009, 06:41:50 PM
The only way Murray will win a grand slam is if he avoids the topl players, its one thing beating them in the masters series it's another kncking them out of the major tournaments.

Still fancy Federer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 20 June 2009, 06:52:35 PM
The only way Murray will win a grand slam is if he avoids the topl players, its one thing beating them in the masters series it's another kncking them out of the major tournaments.

Still fancy Federer.

Well he's knocked Nadal out of a major tournament (US open) and he's been beaten Fedeter several times in big matches, grand slams or not
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Saturday 20 June 2009, 06:59:46 PM
So basically if Murray wins, he won't have "won" because everyone will use the totally flawed argument of "but Nadal wasn't there".

Well yer know, it's worth repeating.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 20 June 2009, 11:46:50 PM
So how does it work for Nadal's ranking points? Does he lose all of the ones from Wimbledon last year?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 21 June 2009, 12:45:48 AM
The two best players by far in that draw are Federer and Murray

Should they meet in the final, and I think they will, I can only see it going Murray's way tbf

That's a laughable statement in all fairness.

He'll have a fair chance of winning that final should it come about, but what on earth he's done to be considered a sure bet against Federer in a Grand Slam final I don't know.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 21 June 2009, 01:07:40 AM
I think people are forgetting how awesome Federer is on grass. It's not as if he went to s*** and got turned over by Nadal in straight sets, it took 5 sets for him to lose on grass for the first time in a long time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 21 June 2009, 01:10:46 AM
The two best players by far in that draw are Federer and Murray

Should they meet in the final, and I think they will, I can only see it going Murray's way tbf

That's a laughable statement in all fairness.

He'll have a fair chance of winning that final should it come about, but what on earth he's done to be considered a sure bet against Federer in a Grand Slam final I don't know.

Completely laughable. The other point being, Murray isn't that hot on grass, it's not his best surface by far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Sunday 21 June 2009, 01:26:01 AM
So how does it work for Nadal's ranking points? Does he lose all of the ones from Wimbledon last year?

Yep, he'll lose 2000 points at least, and he has to do a few things to stop him losing another 1000 points by not being allowed to enter the next Masters Tournament. So if Federer wins Wimbledon, he is number one. It is also now very possible that Murray could overtake Nadal over the next couple of months, subject to him making the Wimbledon Final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Sunday 21 June 2009, 01:33:31 AM
Plus Nadal's Olympic Ranking Points are going to magically dissappear very soon. So basically, he is in the s*** :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 21 June 2009, 01:48:48 AM
Why do the points disappear? Because it's a year later?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 21 June 2009, 02:15:26 AM
Why do the points disappear? Because it's a year later?

Haha.

Rankings work over 52 weeks. All 4 grand slams, 9 masters, plus 4 other of the players best, so basically the best 17 singles. So Nadals olympics points fall off on August 17th. Bit daft to be allowed to include those points because it happens every four years and not every year, he gets to challenge in 3 years,Murray doing so s*** at the Olympics means he loses next to nowt.

If Murray wins he gets 2000 points, final 1200 points. Nadal will get 0. Murray won't overtake.

Nadal will lose 800points for the olympics, and he didn't get any more atp points because he didn't make the Golden Slam.

All depends when Nadal gets himself back to fitness.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Theregulars on Sunday 21 June 2009, 04:09:07 AM
The Federer in a Slam is very different from the Federer you see in a Masters series, he just performs better in them. Murray, however, is the only player aside from Nadal who seems to know how to beat him consistently, but it's a huge ask at Federer's favourite tournament. If Roger hadn't have won the French I'd easily pick Murray to win, but Federer looks like he's back to his imperious best. Not many excuses for Murray not to make the final, only really Del Potro in his way and he's kack on grass.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 21 June 2009, 12:41:24 PM
The Federer in a Slam is very different from the Federer you see in a Masters series, he just performs better in them. Murray, however, is the only player aside from Nadal who seems to know how to beat him consistently, but it's a huge ask at Federer's favourite tournament. If Roger hadn't have won the French I'd easily pick Murray to win, but Federer looks like he's back to his imperious best. Not many excuses for Murray not to make the final, only really Del Potro in his way and he's kack on grass.

Federer is 3 years past his best, his shotmaking is nowt like it was during his years of true domination
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pokerprince2004 on Sunday 21 June 2009, 05:09:42 PM
Any chance Murray could end the year as world number 1?

I'd imagine if he reaches the final of Wimbledon, and wins his strongest tournament at Flushing Meadows, he must be pretty close.

If Murray wins Wimbledon he'll be world number 1 on July 20th!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Saturday 15 August 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Murray is about to become World No. 2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Adam^ on Saturday 15 August 2009, 09:20:45 PM
People will still say he needs to smile.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Adam^ on Saturday 15 August 2009, 10:02:47 PM
Numero two
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Saturday 15 August 2009, 11:05:24 PM
Got the champas out as we speak.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Oakie Doke on Saturday 15 August 2009, 11:07:04 PM
good on him  :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 16 August 2009, 04:19:56 AM
Testa whoever will still have you believe that he's s***
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 16 August 2009, 05:54:16 AM
Slamless number 2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Sunday 16 August 2009, 08:23:43 AM
What time does the final start?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 16 August 2009, 01:15:00 PM
18.30 SS3

http://www.livesportontv.com/
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Adam^ on Sunday 16 August 2009, 06:04:50 PM
Slamless number 2.

Quite a high chance of him winning the US open this year I feel.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 16 August 2009, 06:09:01 PM
Slamless number 2.

Quite a high chance of him winning the US open this year I feel.

Yes there is, but people have been saying this for the last 4 grand slams, and I know he would rather win a slam than be number two, that is what he wants the most.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:01:53 PM
1-1 going into the final set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:12:28 PM
Is it best out of 3 or 5?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Is it best out of 3 or 5?

Three. Only grand slam events are five sets.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:15:00 PM
Best of 3. Looks like he's got it wrapped up. Could he go number 1 at the US Open?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:17:08 PM
Is it best out of 3 or 5?

Three. Only grand slam events are five sets.

I thought throughout these tournaments they played 3 but the final was 5, but obviously I'm wrong
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:24:23 PM
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9110/winnertheme.gif)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:26:13 PM
Good stuff for Murray, del Potro is/was f***ed though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 16 August 2009, 09:26:50 PM
Testa whoever will still have you believe that he's s***

Quote me saying he is s***, please. I hate the f***er though, not in question.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Sunday 16 August 2009, 10:32:10 PM
Its great that he is number 2 with only being in one slam final, just shows his form has been pretty strong all throughout the season. Still gutted that he lost the semi to Roddick but to be fair thats the best I've seen Roddick play since he burst on to the scene.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Adam^ on Monday 17 August 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Now I'm guessing he could make number 1 without winning a slam, he would just have to do really well in the other tournaments to make up for the huge amount of points you get from the slams ?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 17 August 2009, 04:18:10 AM
Murray's fantastic conditioning is really starting to shine through. There's absolutely zero chance of him not winning a Slam in the next 13 months
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 17 August 2009, 04:21:51 AM
Murray's fantastic conditioning is really starting to shine through. There's absolutely zero chance of him not winning a Slam in the next 13 months

You make absolutely ridiculous statements, FACT. I assume you mean barring an injury or anyone else happening to be better?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 17 August 2009, 05:00:42 AM
He's getting better and better all the time. His defence is absolutely incredible and I can only see one man beating him on his best day and he's falling apart with injuries

You love arguing with me, I'm convinced
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Monday 17 August 2009, 11:11:12 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

He's is not that far behind. This includes the 1000 points for the win in Canada yesterday. He seems to be out performing everyone on the masters circuit so its not impossible for him to be number 1 by the end of the year, but chances are that Federer will either win or finish runner up in New York so it would be a tough ask for Murray to get number 1 this season.

Along the lines of Ronaldo I would be surprised if no major came his way in the next 13 months.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 17 August 2009, 12:20:09 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

He's is not that far behind. This includes the 1000 points for the win in Canada yesterday. He seems to be out performing everyone on the masters circuit so its not impossible for him to be number 1 by the end of the year, but chances are that Federer will either win or finish runner up in New York so it would be a tough ask for Murray to get number 1 this season.

Along the lines of Ronaldo I would be surprised if no major came his way in the next 13 months.

Surprised, fair enough. Zero chance, stupid.

I also happen to think Drogba is the best striker in the world, so no, i don't like arguing with you.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: float one in on Monday 17 August 2009, 01:04:45 PM
Murray has seemed decent to watch whenever I've seen him over the last year or so, he seems to have quite a graceful style compared to a lot of the other players. However in interviews he comes across as a right misery, so I'm usually hoping he'll lose heroically... same as with Henman really - never wanted to see him win because he alsways seemed to be such a bottler. That time he lost to Ivanicevic, who went on to win it, was class.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Slugsy on Monday 17 August 2009, 01:11:35 PM
I support him and hope he wins but have to admit the more times he bottles it/loses in slams, the more I get frustrated with him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Monday 17 August 2009, 01:40:21 PM
He is still quite young.

He got totally blitzed by Federer in New York last year, can't blame the kid, afterall Federer has won so many US Open's on the trott and it was Murrays first GS final.

I am not sure bottled it should be used for the Wimbledon semi this year. Roddick did play out of his skin. But I think Murray looking at his draw would have been dissapointed with only a semi. If you want to take a positive spin on matters he did improve on 2008 Wimbledon.

He is frustrating to watch at times, he can be too defensive, at times you just want him to show aggression and attack, like the Nadal semi in New York, he was pretty passive against Roddick. Hopefully this will come in his game and he play a controlled but aggressive style when needed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 17 August 2009, 10:25:13 PM
The amount the British bemoan a lack of real sporting talent yet still make fun of Andy Murray. Annoys me. I say, well played for getting number 2 lad. Let's see you take down Federer like we know you can.  :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Adam^ on Monday 17 August 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Even if he wins every slam is world number 1 for 30 years, people will still pick fault at him and say other people are better than him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 17 August 2009, 10:52:08 PM
Think it would be a bit of a shame if he got to number 1 without winning a slam.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: n4e on Saturday 22 August 2009, 02:06:13 AM
Anyone seen the new Murray advert for the US Open thats been on Sky the last few days.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 22 August 2009, 12:52:15 PM
I think if Murray loses to Federer tonight, and Nadal wins the tournament then Nadal goes back to number two.

Of course Nadal has to beat Djokovic to get to the final first.

Come on Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Saturday 22 August 2009, 02:10:52 PM
I think if Murray loses to Federer tonight, and Nadal wins the tournament then Nadal goes back to number two.

Of course Nadal has to beat Djokovic to get to the final first.

Come on Rafa.

As much as i'd love that situation, atm, Murray would hammer Nadal. Federer not in a slam is very beatable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 22 August 2009, 02:12:59 PM
I think if Murray loses to Federer tonight, and Nadal wins the tournament then Nadal goes back to number two.

Of course Nadal has to beat Djokovic to get to the final first.

Come on Rafa.

As much as i'd love that situation, atm, Murray would hammer Nadal. Federer not in a slam is very beatable.

Aye unfortunately i have to agree. The most likely scenario would be a Murray Djokovic final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 22 August 2009, 07:43:18 PM
Federer takes the first set against Murray, 6-2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 23 August 2009, 01:19:41 AM
I take back what i said, Federer when he gives a s*** is too good for Murray.

Wipeout.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 23 August 2009, 02:58:04 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Sunday 23 August 2009, 03:18:19 AM
Djokovic beat Nadal so he'll face Federer in the Final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 2 September 2009, 01:11:49 AM
Vera Dushevina  :smitten:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 2 September 2009, 01:32:58 AM
Tossing my unrequited love for Dinara to the side, I must say she reminds of one Zlatan Ibrahimovic. (I don't know enough about tennis to know is this is actually true btw.) So obviously talented, so powerful, so strong. She performs so well when no one is looking, but always seems to come up short when all eyes are on here. This leads the world to underrate her abilities, even we she is so clearly great. Oh Dinara :no:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Wednesday 2 September 2009, 01:44:42 AM
Karlovic 2 sets down and Wawrinka a break down in the deciding set - both are in Murray's section of the draw, who is about to come on court :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 2 September 2009, 04:41:14 PM
Zomfg, Wawrinka and Karlovic both knocked out. MURRAY ALWAYS GETS IT EASY!1!1!!1!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Thursday 3 September 2009, 11:45:58 PM
Blake vs Rochus. Pretty good match this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Saturday 5 September 2009, 03:32:00 AM
Nadal loses the second set 6-3 to Kiefer. So far it's been a great second set, some quality rallies. Kiefer got spanked 6-0 in the first, but he's come back extremely strongly.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 5 September 2009, 11:41:42 PM
Roddick a set away from going out of the US Open
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 6 September 2009, 12:36:43 AM
Roddick wins the 3rd set, let's see if he can make it go the distance
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 6 September 2009, 01:13:43 AM
Match point for Isner
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: n4e on Sunday 6 September 2009, 01:25:51 AM
Roddick can nearly always pull out a big serve at game/match/set point, mental how many times he does it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 6 September 2009, 03:20:04 AM
How on earth did Isner win that  :lol:  When he started concentrating his energy on winning serve he looked a different player, fair play to the lad
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 6 September 2009, 05:44:35 AM
Safina (number 1 seed) vs Kvitova.

Safina 5-2 down on the Tiebreak in the final set. Stunning game this, fantastic tennis and match points galore that have been clawed back. Both players have had numerous chances to end this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 6 September 2009, 05:47:26 AM
Two match points for Kvitova.

And she misses one having done everything to set up a winner.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 6 September 2009, 05:50:45 AM
Kvitova's won. World number 72 knocks out world number 1. What a game.

Shame the stadium is half empty.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 6 September 2009, 06:37:46 PM
Kvitova's won. World number 72 knocks out world number 1. What a game.

Shame the stadium is half empty.

Worlds least worthy number 1 ever.

HATE the US Open.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Sunday 6 September 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Really happy to see Clijsters back and playing so well
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 6 September 2009, 09:21:42 PM
I was gonna say... whenever I see Safina playing, she looks nothing like a World No.1.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Monday 7 September 2009, 03:40:26 AM
Nadal through but I think he'll lose to Monfils in the next round.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 04:06:56 AM
Nadal through but I think he'll lose to Monfils in the next round.

you've nicked that straight from Barry Cowan (who made that exact comment 6 hours after Nadal won, but 2 minutes before your post)

you thief  :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 04:09:02 AM
Dent has a solid service game but Murray has looked like breaking him in every other one so far, top tennis  :thup:

EDIT: Murray breaks him again, the fourth time in 2 sets
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 04:39:31 AM
Murray a game away from the match having broken Dent 6 times in 3 sets, sensational returning
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Monday 7 September 2009, 04:43:56 AM
Walk in the park for Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 7 September 2009, 09:17:14 AM
Got a few quid on Murray at 4-1, betting in the dark really as I haven't seen any tennis since Wimbledon. It's a pisser not having SKY sometimes, still stand by my decision though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 7 September 2009, 09:38:50 AM
Cilic next, then he'll probably have to face Del Potro which will be very tough. Still think he'll make the final again though, and will make a much better fight of it against Federer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 05:01:24 PM
This could easily be his tournament, on this surface Federer is there for the taking
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 7 September 2009, 05:23:44 PM
This could easily be his tournament, on this surface Federer is there for the taking

You say that every f***ing grand slam ffs, yawnnnnn.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 05:37:03 PM
Federer's game isn't as polished on this surface, is all i'm saying. Murray has a great chance
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 7 September 2009, 06:15:27 PM
US open has always been his best chance. It was last year too.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Monday 7 September 2009, 08:35:19 PM
Federer's got an awful record at this tournament like, atrocious tbh :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Monday 7 September 2009, 08:43:31 PM
Ronaldo is hilarious like, Wimbledon was Murray's tournament to lose this year. :lol:

Can't see anyone other than Federer stopping him in this one, mind.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 08:55:20 PM
Ronaldo is hilarious like, Wimbledon was Murray's tournament to lose this year. :lol:

Can't see anyone other than Federer stopping him in this one, mind.

yeah and he lost, what's your point?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 7 September 2009, 09:19:53 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Monday 7 September 2009, 10:30:23 PM
This could easily be his tournament, on this surface Federer is there for the taking

Federer has only won it 5 times in a row like. If anything, I think its his best surface. His game is suited to the US more than Wimbledon and the main reason he has dominated Wimbledon (other than his undoubted genius) is because everyone else is useless on grass.

He just looked superb against Robredo and his side of the draw looks very good. Soderling then possibly NoDjo if he pulls his head out of his arse and starts performing. If not NoDjo, then Isnar, Verdasco or Stepanek should be a walk for Fed.

Murray has it tough over his side. Cilic, Del Potro, then Nadal/Monfils/Tsonga or Gonzalez is very tough. All those players are dangerous and all bar Nadal would say this is their preferred surface. Fed-Del Potro final for me.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Monday 7 September 2009, 11:05:32 PM
Ronaldo is hilarious like, Wimbledon was Murray's tournament to lose this year. :lol:

Can't see anyone other than Federer stopping him in this one, mind.

yeah and he lost, what's your point?

Point is it was a stupid comment, Federer being a miles better tennis player than Murray and Murray not being very good on grass anyway.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 7 September 2009, 11:23:37 PM
Ronaldo is hilarious like, Wimbledon was Murray's tournament to lose this year. :lol:

Can't see anyone other than Federer stopping him in this one, mind.

yeah and he lost, what's your point?

Point is it was a stupid comment, Federer being a miles better tennis player than Murray and Murray not being very good on grass anyway.

Miles better?

there's the stupid comment man, Murray has a 6-3 record against him

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Monday 7 September 2009, 11:38:40 PM
Federer is arguably the greatest player the game has ever seen.

Murray is a very talented player who I've already said in this thread will win a few slams in his career, but until he does then he simply can't be mentioned as being anywhere near the same level.

So yeah, he's miles better than him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 01:37:22 AM
Federer is arguably the greatest player the game has ever seen.

Murray is a very talented player who I've already said in this thread will win a few slams in his career, but until he does then he simply can't be mentioned as being anywhere near the same level.

So yeah, he's miles better than him.

So the reason that my comment about Murray having a great chance was stupid because Federer has won X amount of slams and Murrat hasn't won any yet?

He's achieved more, but he's 6 years older man. When Federer was Murray's age he wasn't the finished article either
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 11:23:13 AM
IMO Nadal, and Murray are the only two players capable of beating Federer over 5 sets. Nadal got injured again the other day so he will probably go out tonight against Monfils. Murray has a very tough looking draw ahead, assuming Del Potro gets through. Still expecting a Murray-Federer final, not sure on the outcome.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 01:37:05 PM
Federer is arguably the greatest player the game has ever seen.

Murray is a very talented player who I've already said in this thread will win a few slams in his career, but until he does then he simply can't be mentioned as being anywhere near the same level.

So yeah, he's miles better than him.

So the reason that my comment about Murray having a great chance was stupid because Federer has won X amount of slams and Murrat hasn't won any yet?

He's achieved more, but he's 6 years older man. When Federer was Murray's age he wasn't the finished article either

When you say something is someone's to lose, you're basically saying that they have it won unless they manage to make a mess of it themselves.

Saying that Wimbledon was Murray's to lose was massively over the top, given that he'd never won a slam before and he'd have to go through the best player the game has ever seen, playing on a surface that he's dominated for years, in order to achieve that.

Anyway, think Murray will win one soon enough and expect he'll rack up close to half a dozen slams by the time he's finished, especially if Nadal never gets back to the level he was a year or so ago.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Gorilla on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Tennis is crap and Murray is British he's scottish.  Would you consider Rooney a British footballer, we just use British in tennis as we are crap at it and need every chance we can to win something.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 02:01:44 PM
Tennis is crap and Murray is British he's scottish.  Would you consider Rooney a British footballer, we just use British in tennis as we are crap at it and need every chance we can to win something.

What an absolute load of bollocks throughout.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pokerprince2004 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 02:54:34 PM
Got to feel sorry for Soderling like the guy has been playing class since Madrid in April but has met Federer in the last 3 slams now. He ran him close at Wimbledon with 2 tiebreakers so perhaps he could spring a surprise. Federer was awful against Hewitt by his own standards the amount of forehands he shanked and i thought he was ok against Robredo but nowt special. Murray V Del Potro will decide the finalist on the bottom half as both have been outstanding last few months and Nadal is still not 100% prob beat Montfils but can see Tsonga beatin him
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 03:38:36 PM
Every tournament on a surface other than clay is Federer's to lose. Just look at his results over the past couple of years.

Murray's a decent player but he'll win 3 GS max. He's a great returner but he's not nearly aggressive enough which means he's always liable to lose to a consistently aggressive player (Del Potro, Federer, Nadal etc.). Obviously he can still develop but unlike Federer at 23, whose game was already there and just needed to be properly motivated, Murray needs to change his style of play to win GS. You can win best-of-3 tournaments because a few mistakes by your opponent will give you the set but in best-of-5s, you need to actually go out and 'win' the match rather than wait/force errors.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 03:40:01 PM
Every tournament on a surface other than clay is Federer's to lose. Just look at his results over the past couple of years.

Murray's a decent player but he'll win 3 GS max. He's a great returner but he's not nearly aggressive enough which means he's always liable to lose to a consistently aggressive player (Del Potro, Federer, Nadal etc.). Obviously he can still develop but unlike Federer at 23, whose game was already there and just needed to be properly motivated, Murray needs to change his style of play to win GS. You can win best-of-3 tournaments because a few mistakes by your opponent will give you the set but in best-of-5s, you need to actually go out and 'win' the match rather than wait/force errors.

This is something he has been addressing and has improved greatly imo, he used to be way too defensive and not hit enough winners. Agree it's a work in progress and he could do with a bit more agression mind.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 03:40:30 PM
By the way, here's my prediction just so it's on record: Murray to not make the final, Fed/Nadal final and all bets are off when those two play. I'll back Federer but he has a mahoosive mental problem when he plays Rafa so it should be a brilliant match with the tension above what any other matchup in tennis can provide atm.

PS. I was right about the French and Wimbledon :snod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 03:41:29 PM
I think Fed will beat Murray in the final personally. Don't know why I bet on Murray really, although I do enjoy betting on things I want to happen :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 06:17:19 PM
I know it was only Taylor Dent but I was f***ing impressed with Murray the other night, he basically looked like he wanted to break him in every single game and managed it just about every other time.

On this surface, Federer's serve wont be as effective because of the bounce. If Andy can keep his first serve percentage up I really think he has a fantastic chance of winning this one, and will win this tournament one day, without doubt.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 06:33:33 PM
Huh? Federer's serve is not effective because of the bounce, it's effective because no one, except Rafa, can consistently read it. In Cinci last week, Fed served 40% against Murray in the first set of the semis and won it 6-2 or something, then upped the % in the second set and easily held serve - Murray never had a break point in the match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 06:38:43 PM
Huh? Federer's serve is not effective because of the bounce, it's effective because no one, except Rafa, can consistently read it. In Cinci last week, Fed served 40% against Murray in the first set of the semis and won it 6-2 or something, then upped the % in the second set and easily held serve - Murray never had a break point in the match.

nobody said 'not effective' man, bloody hell.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 06:46:32 PM
Clijsters wins pretty easily.

Murray up next.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:00:29 PM
3 break points. And Cilic breaks him. 6-5, serving for the first set. Murray will raise his game though.

Murray's first serve has been s***. Think he had 47% of first serves in against Dent, a low figure. Absolutely must improve his service game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:09:06 PM
All over the place atm.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:09:07 PM
Murray a set and a break down. Uh oh
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:10:14 PM
Kiss of death from Ronaldo as per.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Keefaz on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:12:39 PM
Murray a set and a break down. Uh oh

Well, it's his to lose now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:13:14 PM
Don't write him off yet, not only can Murray only improve in this match (surely he can't get any worse) Cilic is far from the finished article, he'll have some blips yet.

Incidentally now that Cilic has grown a bit older how much of a villain does he look? He looks evil as f*** :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:17:47 PM
Double break down. Looks like he'll need five sets...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:21:46 PM
Simply being outclassed.

Wonder if Cilic can keep this up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:34:07 PM
That is the fattest ballboy I've ever seen. He's probably hoping this is over in 3 sets the little porker.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:42:25 PM
3 mistakes by Cilic, gifting two break points for Murray. Not taken.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:44:26 PM
f*** sake, break point, second serve, awful return
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:45:14 PM
Set Cilic, oh my.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:47:25 PM
Blame the wrists.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:51:49 PM
Break down already in the third. f***. Me.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 08:52:27 PM
 :kasper:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:08:08 PM
On a side note to this match, it really pisses me off when players shout 'Come on' etc at an opponent error.

Murrays done it 3 or 4 times already.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:09:54 PM
Massive forehands by Cilic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:11:56 PM
Double break, that's f***ed it completely.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:13:55 PM
Superb from Cilic but Murray has been woeful.

This will be the 4th slam in a row where he's lost to a player he should have beat (Verdasco, Gonzalez, Roddick, Cilic)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:15:05 PM
Broken.

Does anyone actually buy the supposed injury? I wouldn't be suprised if it's just him bottling it against the new kid on the block who's quite clearly owning him in every department, and coming up with excuses.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 09:19:16 PM
Broken.

Does anyone actually buy the supposed injury? I wouldn't be suprised if it's just him bottling it against the new kid on the block who's quite clearly owning him in every department, and coming up with excuses.

I think people are slowly seeing that for all Murrays variation you can hit through him a little bit with some serious sustained hitting. That and his woeful second serve are costing him dear at the moment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 10:00:13 PM
Kiss of death from Ronaldo as per.

He's f***ing awesome at predicting results apparently though. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Tuesday 8 September 2009, 10:09:43 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 12:48:42 AM
I don't believe the injury excuse to be honest, he f***ed up just like he f***ed up against Roddick. My opinion of him as a tennis players is unchanged but when genuinely challenged within a grand slam he often seems to be unable to dig deep. He needs to sort it out soon or he's basically the next Carlos Moya, full of gifts and athleticism but lacking in application and ability to change strategy.

and cheers for f***ing up my accumulator you scottish c***

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 03:21:09 AM
Nadal looks in trouble here. Lost the first set on a tie break. Monfils is playing very well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 03:22:08 AM
Moya actually won a GS so Murray will do well to get there. It's hard for him because if he wins one or two GS, he would have had a pretty awesome career, but because Federer and Nadal have set the bar ridiculously high, people are expecting Murray to win 5-6 GS. That's almost top 10 in tennis of all time - such high expectations.

He's a decent player but he's still not aggressive enough. Cilic yesterday went out to win the match whereas Murray seemed hesitant to try difficult shots, he was just pushing the ball back and rightly punished by an on-form opponent.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 03:24:40 AM
Murray's shown himself to be a serial bottler in the Slams so far. You can tell from his body language when he's given up, and it's not even towards the end of a match. Roughly half way through getting dominated, he seems to realise he needs to play the tennis of his life in every rally to stand a chance, and he just isn't up for it. Very disappointing from him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 03:35:32 AM
Nadal breaks Monfils, then gets broken back after making 3 unforced errors.

This is a quality game. Monfils is just about matching Nadal stroke for stroke, and has looked capable of hitting winners regularly. Some massive rallies in this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 04:31:42 AM
Nadal breaks in the fourth, game over
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 05:05:28 AM
Great game. Shame Monfils lacked the stamina to keep up the intensity he showed in the first set. He was gasping for air and had to take a breather after some long rallies early on in the second set, and apart from a brief recovery in the fourth he didn't have enough in the tank to take on Nadal.

Best thing for the sport would be a Nadal Federer final, their first meeting in the US Open.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 11:18:21 AM
Great game. Shame Monfils lacked the stamina to keep up the intensity he showed in the first set. He was gasping for air and had to take a breather after some long rallies early on in the second set, and apart from a brief recovery in the fourth he didn't have enough in the tank to take on Nadal.

Best thing for the sport would be a Nadal Federer final, their first meeting in the US Open.

And a Nadal victory.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 12:53:16 PM
Great game. Shame Monfils lacked the stamina to keep up the intensity he showed in the first set. He was gasping for air and had to take a breather after some long rallies early on in the second set, and apart from a brief recovery in the fourth he didn't have enough in the tank to take on Nadal.

Best thing for the sport would be a Nadal Federer final, their first meeting in the US Open.

and for Nadal to win
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 03:41:38 PM
Great game. Shame Monfils lacked the stamina to keep up the intensity he showed in the first set. He was gasping for air and had to take a breather after some long rallies early on in the second set, and apart from a brief recovery in the fourth he didn't have enough in the tank to take on Nadal.

Best thing for the sport would be a Nadal Federer final, their first meeting in the US Open.

and for Nadal to win
Murray for the Australian? 100% his tournament? Guffaw.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 04:18:24 PM
Sorry, I forgot Murray's never going to win a grand slam according to you. Hands up, I got it completely wrong this time
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 04:42:22 PM
Whenever Monfils does that slide thing, my knees cringe a bit. Also, Serena Williams looks like Caster Semenya's older, more muscular brother. Venus isn't particularly pretty, but at least she looks like a female. Serena looks like this guy I know. Federer and the pretty Dane girl to win.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 05:05:57 PM
Venus looks a LOT more manly than Serena. Venus is horrific to look at, whereas Serena...  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 05:07:29 PM
It basically boils down to whether you'd rather f*** Mike Tyson or Didier Drogba tbh.

Iron Mike all the way for me tbh. :fwap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 9 September 2009, 07:13:15 PM
Venus looks a LOT more manly than Serena. Venus is horrific to look at, whereas Serena...  :coolsmiley:
Really? Venus is decent looking tbh. She has a regular leggy female build. Serena is basically a man. She has this wierd aggressive personality too. Little too much testosterone I think.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Thursday 10 September 2009, 03:16:03 AM
Federer just owned Soderling. 6-0 first set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 10 September 2009, 03:22:12 AM
Venus looks a LOT more manly than Serena. Venus is horrific to look at, whereas Serena...  :coolsmiley:
Really? Venus is decent looking tbh. She has a regular leggy female build. Serena is basically a man. She has this wierd aggressive personality too. Little too much testosterone I think.

Venus could easily be a man, at least Serena has curves
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Kimbo on Thursday 10 September 2009, 01:05:17 PM
Venus looks a LOT more manly than Serena. Venus is horrific to look at, whereas Serena...  :coolsmiley:
Really? Venus is decent looking tbh. She has a regular leggy female build. Serena is basically a man. She has this wierd aggressive personality too. Little too much testosterone I think.

Venus could easily be a man, at least Serena has curves

Yeah, on her arms and shoulders. She's built like Ving Rhames.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Thursday 10 September 2009, 07:29:52 PM
Doubles tennis is so s*** to watch.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Thursday 10 September 2009, 11:21:12 PM
Del Potro breezes past Cilic (aka the PWNER of Murray) after getting owned in the first set (similar to Murray). Pretty impressive display from Potro.

He's two years younger than Murray and has already shown a much stronger mentality imo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 12 September 2009, 01:04:32 AM
Monday final, again. The resuming tie-break should be brilliant to watch, I bet Gonzo fances his chances
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Saturday 12 September 2009, 05:17:16 PM
Nadal Gonzalez has finally resumed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 03:56:17 AM
Serena defaulted for allegedly threatening to kill a line judge who called an incorrect foot fault to bring up match point.

Absolutely unbelievable
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Sunday 13 September 2009, 03:58:25 AM
Funny as f*** that :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 13 September 2009, 04:56:27 AM
What a fairy story for Clijsters. Hope she wins this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:03:15 AM
I've always had quite a big thing for Clijsters, the view from behind her when she's returning  :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:01:59 PM
Nadal down 5-2 to Del Potro in the first set. It's been a quality match, so far. If Del Potro doesn't tire, he'll win this in 3.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:05:40 PM
Del Potro breaks Nadal and takes the first set, 6-2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:07:52 PM
Come on Rafa bounce back please.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:19:16 PM
Nadal continues to waste break points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:31:00 PM
Del Potro breaks again, leads 3-1 in the second set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:32:23 PM
This is going to end quite soon.

Rafa not good enough.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:35:24 PM
FFS Nadal break the Argie.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:57:28 PM
Second set Del Potro.


 :sadnod: :no: :weep:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 06:57:29 PM
What a f***ing point. Del Potro with punishing shots, moving Nadal all around the court then finally whipping a cross-court backhand that gives him three set points.

And he gets it. Breaks Nadal again and takes the set 6-2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:03:14 PM
COME ON RAFA
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:11:16 PM
Eh, is it me or did they just cut to adverts during a game? And at break point too?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:13:34 PM
Del Potro with ANOTHER break. f*** me, he's playing some awesome tennis. Up 2-0 in the third set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:14:15 PM
Del Potro breaks and lead by two sets and 2-0 in the third.

Good night Rafa, hopefully you will come back stronger next year, and be able to serve.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:22:19 PM
Dead and buried Rafa like. Which is a shame as I distinctly dislike Del Potro for some reason.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:24:17 PM
Dead and buried Rafa like. Which is a shame as I distinctly dislike Del Potro for some reason.

The falklands?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:24:42 PM
Dead and buried Rafa like. Which is a shame as I distinctly dislike Del Potro for some reason.


Aye, but he will be back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:25:21 PM
Dead and buried Rafa like. Which is a shame as I distinctly dislike Del Potro for some reason.

Didn't he call Murray's mam when they played each other before?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:26:37 PM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins the match point
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:32:46 PM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins then match point

As if that will happen. Federer will be loving this, the only two players capable of beating him are out or about to go out.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Del Potro is dismantling Nadal.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Del Potro wins
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 13 September 2009, 07:36:22 PM
Game, set, match with another break.

6-2, 6-2, 6-2. What a performance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 13 September 2009, 08:19:15 PM
Wow, reminded me a bit of Tsonga destroying Nadal in the semis of the Aussie Open a few back.

Sometimes I think players can beat Nadal if they get on top of him very early. Despite Del Potro's level, I don't think he would have beaten Fed 2, 2 & 2 on that form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Sunday 13 September 2009, 08:34:44 PM
Serena disqualified for killing a line official during her match vs Kim Clyster, it's Murray's tournament to lose now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 13 September 2009, 10:22:13 PM
Djokovic taking the game to Federer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 11:03:54 PM
come on Djokovic!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 13 September 2009, 11:23:17 PM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 13 September 2009, 11:49:14 PM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:03:11 AM
On grass I'd say Sampras was better than Federer by some margin.

Overall though (taking all surfaces into consideration) Federer is the best.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:09:26 AM
That shot from Federer. :kasper:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:09:36 AM
Holy f***, Federer.

Imagine if that was match point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:10:42 AM
What a fuckin shot by Federer.

Djokovic is a disgrace btw. When the going gets tough, he curls up into a ball and gives the f*** up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:10:52 AM
That was just incredible.  I think I woke the rest of the house up when he did that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: #9 on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:11:07 AM
That shot from Federer. :kasper:

crazy, you see it tried quite often and it never comes off
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:13:27 AM
Wonder if a robot could've played that shot.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:47:05 AM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.

He wouldn't last 5 minutes in basic training
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 14 September 2009, 01:56:08 AM
What a fuckin shot by Federer.

Djokovic is a disgrace btw. When the going gets tough, he curls up into a ball and gives the f*** up.

Your posts seems to sum up Murray not Djokovic tbh.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Monday 14 September 2009, 01:59:05 AM
Watched a bit of the game today. Didn't look like Novak gave up really. He was outplayed by the best player in the history of his sport. This will happen sometimes.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Monday 14 September 2009, 07:08:31 AM
Clisjters wins the US Open. Sporting comeback of this decade maybe?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Monday 14 September 2009, 08:01:14 AM
Watched a bit of the game today. Didn't look like Novak gave up really. He was outplayed by the best player in the history of his sport. This will happen sometimes.

During the key points of each set, his body language was a disgrace. Some of the double faults he served were ridiculous as well.

It was an observation based on more than last night's match tbf. He has all the talent in the world but a terrible attitude. How many time has he retired in Slams?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Liam Liam Liam O on Monday 14 September 2009, 08:33:14 AM
Clisjters wins the US Open. Sporting comeback of this decade maybe?

:nope:

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Monday 14 September 2009, 09:16:48 AM
That shot from Federer. :kasper:
Just seen it this morning.  :yikes:
Phenomenal
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:28:14 AM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.

Like the respect you've just shown for Nadal?  :lol:

Federer is magnificent, the 2nd best of all time. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy him winning
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:30:28 AM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.

Like the respect you've just shown for Nadal?  :lol:

Federer is magnificent, the 2nd best of all time. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy him winning

After Rod Laver?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:32:40 AM
Never saw him play, can't comment
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:39:05 AM
Never saw him play, can't comment

Remembered as soon as I posted that you're a huge Sampras fan so presumably you meant him. Laver's an interesting one, had he not gone pro by all accounts he'd probably be the top grand slam holder, pretty sure he held all four at once at one point as well. First ever tennis millionaire too. Didn't realise he was that good tbh, well before my time too though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:36:15 PM
Sampras is not better than Federer :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:37:14 PM
I hope Del Potro isn't scared today so we get a good match. You know Federer will show up but it depends on whether Del Potro can make the match an interesting one.

My prediction: Federer in straight sets.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 14 September 2009, 12:40:34 PM
Sampras is not better than Federer :lol:

no, you're probably right. Not anymore he's not, 10 years ago however........
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 14 September 2009, 03:26:55 PM
Sampras is not better than Federer :lol:

no, you're probably right. Not anymore he's not, 10 years ago however........

He still wasn't. Give them credit, both good sportsmen but neither of them would last 5 minutes in basic training. You never forget basic training, it's basically training (the basics) to make sure we are well trained to go to foreign countries and basically run around shouting, for our country.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: junkhead on Monday 14 September 2009, 03:29:49 PM
"you never forget basic training" :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on Monday 14 September 2009, 03:45:22 PM
"you never forget basic training" :lol:

Ronaldo certainly hasn't, and he never misses an opportunity to tell us incredibly interesting stories of how he ran around shouting for 4 weeks, indelibly marking his character forever and moulding him into the intellectual behemoth that he has now become.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 14 September 2009, 05:10:11 PM
I wasn't aware that i'd even mentioned the details of my basic training tbh. Of course you did tell us you you spent '5 years service in the TA'   :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Monday 14 September 2009, 06:15:14 PM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.

Like the respect you've just shown for Nadal?  :lol:

Federer is magnificent, the 2nd best of all time. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy him winning

It was a joke based on the fact that you made a judgement on Federer based on what you see for 2 hours on a tennis court. 'Robot of a human being' is an unbelievable statement.

Anyway, Federer is a far more rounded player than Sampras. How did Sampras get on at the French? Did he make 3 finals and win 1? Or did he make 1 semi final and get beat by a load of s**** year after year?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 14 September 2009, 06:50:30 PM
God I hate Federer, what a robot of a human being

Are you for real? In comparison to Nadal who can only bite trophies and shout Vamos? Or Murray who is a fuckin baby having tantrums every 5 minutes? Or Djokovic who fakes injury and gives up while defending a slam.

Federer is the greatest of all time. Show some respect and appreciate his genius.

Like the respect you've just shown for Nadal?  :lol:

Federer is magnificent, the 2nd best of all time. Doesn't mean I have to enjoy him winning

It was a joke based on the fact that you made a judgement on Federer based on what you see for 2 hours on a tennis court. 'Robot of a human being' is an unbelievable statement.

Anyway, Federer is a far more rounded player than Sampras. How did Sampras get on at the French? Did he make 3 finals and win 1? Or did he make 1 semi final and get beat by a load of s**** year after year?

Federer was the better player on clay, but Sampras had Aggassi, Moya, Kuerton, Kafelnikov and Courier to contend with. Federer has had Nadal and very little else for the past 6 years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 09:31:17 PM
Federer carrying on where he left off, extraordinary.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 14 September 2009, 10:24:44 PM
Would be fantastic if they both lost... :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Monday 14 September 2009, 10:30:12 PM
Federer was the better player on clay, but Sampras had Aggassi, Moya, Kuerton, Kafelnikov and Courier to contend with. Federer has had Nadal and very little else for the past 6 years.

Is that not because certainly Federer & maybe Nadal are way better than not only of tennis players now but of any generation?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:08:34 PM
Great fight from Del Potro.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:08:57 PM
Federer seems to have some kind of complex over the hawkeye system.  We have a match on here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:16:06 PM
Federer seems to have some kind of complex over the hawkeye system.  We have a match on here.

He's had that ever since they introduced it. At Wimbledon a few years back he was upset by one of the Hawk-Eye calls in his match against Nadal to the point that he started moaning about having it turned off to the umpire.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:38:34 PM
Federer seems to have some kind of complex over the hawkeye system.  We have a match on here.

He's had that ever since they introduced it. At Wimbledon a few years back he was upset by one of the Hawk-Eye calls in his match against Nadal to the point that he started moaning about having it turned off to the umpire.

Yeah, "this machine is killing me" or something.

Huge moment as Del Potro breaks but fails to consolidate it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:42:55 PM
Federer swearing. Seems a bit of a t***.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:43:09 PM
Haha, Federer going mental at the umpire. 'Don't tell me when I can speak, I don't give a s***' etc. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:43:26 PM
"I don't give a s***" "I don't give a f***".
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:48:27 PM
Get in.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Monday 14 September 2009, 11:48:38 PM
Ceding a set with a pair of double faults, dear me
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:11:32 AM
Come on Del Petro!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:13:30 AM
Fed's going to throw the racket soon
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:24:16 AM
f***ing p*ssed it away yet again
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:49:52 AM
Decider!

I need to go to bed. :(
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:50:27 AM
f*** that
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:50:28 AM
This match is incredible.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 12:51:15 AM
Del Potro should have won the third
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:12:41 AM
Anyone still watching? Del Porto on the brink.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:19:44 AM
Del Potro is a game away from victory.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:19:56 AM
Come on Juan Martin!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:21:19 AM
2 points..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:21:24 AM
Federer has crumbled. Fifth unforced error in the last 6 points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:21:38 AM
2 f***ing points!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:23:28 AM
Come on Federer. Make this last set one to go down in US Open history!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Joe Dynamite on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:24:49 AM
Wa going to go to bed at 2 sets to 1 but it has been brilliant.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:25:32 AM
 :wav: :wav: :wav: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

f***ing have it!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:25:56 AM
DEL POTROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:26:14 AM
Amazing win.

Let's see if there's another US Flag wankathon like last year.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:28:07 AM
An incredible performance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:47:28 AM
Rusedski saying that Federer's language was inexcusable  :kasper:

Wimbledon 2003 Greg? Refering to a fan as 'some w***** in the crowd' and 'that stupid f***ing idiot'  :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:55:12 AM
Rudesdki saying that Federer's language was inexcusable  :kasper:

Wimbledon 2003 Greg? Refering to a fan as 'some w***** in the crowd' and 'that stupid f***ing idiot'  :lol:

Who?   ;D
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:55:17 AM
Wait...Federer lost?! Wow...I had kind of written this off as another easy victory for Roger. Stunned in all honesty.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:57:05 AM
Rudesdki saying that Federer's language was inexcusable  :kasper:

Wimbledon 2003 Greg? Refering to a fan as 'some w***** in the crowd' and 'that stupid f***ing idiot'  :lol:

Who?   ;D


too many shandys
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 01:58:38 AM
Wait...Federer lost?! Wow...I had kind of written this off as another easy victory for Roger. Stunned in all honesty.

Why?

Hewitt wasn't easy, Soderling certainly wasn't easy and Djokovic wasn't a walk in the park either. Why on earth would Del Potro (6-2 6-2 6-2 Nadal) be easy?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 02:15:09 AM
Rusedski saying that Federer's language was inexcusable  :kasper:

Wimbledon 2003 Greg? Refering to a fan as 'some w***** in the crowd' and 'that stupid f***ing idiot'  :lol:
Against Roddick? Just watched it now :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 02:15:32 AM
Rusedski saying that Federer's language was inexcusable  :kasper:

Wimbledon 2003 Greg? Refering to a fan as 'some w***** in the crowd' and 'that stupid f***ing idiot'  :lol:
Against Roddick? Just watched it now :lol:

indeed
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 03:31:01 AM
Well done, Del Potro.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 04:00:16 AM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins the match point

As if that will happen. Federer will be loving this, the only two players capable of beating him are out or about to go out.

 :nope:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 11:30:41 AM
Newcastle should adopt the Del Potro approach. We should announce to the FA that we don't fancy competing in the FA Cup as we are a bit tired and would rather concentrate on the Championship as it's more important. It will reduce the risk of injury and keep our players fresher while the other clubs have that minimum of one extra cup fixture to play in January.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 05:03:57 PM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins the match point

As if that will happen. Federer will be loving this, the only two players capable of beating him are out or about to go out.

 :nope:

You can shake all you want. You say Murray will win every tournament.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 15 September 2009, 07:13:10 PM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins the match point

As if that will happen. Federer will be loving this, the only two players capable of beating him are out or about to go out.

 :nope:

You can shake all you want. You say Murray will win every tournament.

source?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Wednesday 16 September 2009, 09:45:54 PM
I hope Del Potro anihiliates Federer in the final, I really couldn't stomach and stupid Fed Celebration after he wins the match point

As if that will happen. Federer will be loving this, the only two players capable of beating him are out or about to go out.

 :nope:

You can shake all you want. You say Murray will win every tournament.

source?

Too many quotes to find. I'll await the bump of this thread for the Aussie Open with the ''It's Murray's to lose'' line.

A young player fulfilling their potential in a Grand Slam and not getting f***ed by Federer, great to see.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 16 September 2009, 10:11:04 PM
2 tournaments in the entire year?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Tuesday 13 October 2009, 11:03:19 PM
Amelie Mauresmo considering retirement.

Justin Henin gets a wild card for the Australian Open. There isn't any justice in the world.

Murray will slip to 4th.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 9 January 2010, 09:55:47 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1241839/Andy-Murray-Laura-Robson-beaten-Spain-Hopman-Cup-Final.html

Well done on getting that far. Great Britain lost in the final to Spain. Seems that Murray dragged us to the final, then when Robson finally won a singles match, Murray lost the chance to win the title by losing his first single match of the tournament against Robredo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Saturday 9 January 2010, 09:56:19 AM
Is Robson 16 yet?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Saturday 9 January 2010, 11:28:47 AM
As if Murray lost to Robredo ffs.  Still, great effort from the pair this week.

Is Robson 16 yet?

Not for a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Sunday 10 January 2010, 08:23:01 PM
Cringed at all the lolling going on when Laura Robson took the mic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Monday 18 January 2010, 02:07:33 PM
Well done to Murray for winning so comfortably today, only dropped 4 games?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 19 January 2010, 12:28:01 AM
Murray and Baltacha in round 2 and Katie O'Brien on court now. Going to be an interesting tournament when you think del Potro (if fit) has made it a big 5 and Davydenko in the form of his life, could be some really top quality matches to come :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Tuesday 19 January 2010, 01:29:49 AM
Katie O'Brien through and the Irish lad (Louk Sorensen) has won the first set of his match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 19 January 2010, 09:28:18 AM
Federer not at his best but through in 4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Tuesday 19 January 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Couple of shocks with Ferrero and Soderling perishing today.  And Tommy Robredo is out.  Ha.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 10:03:42 AM
Well done Murray - fairly straight forward in three sets, didn't do anything outstanding either.

Del Potro on the verge of losing to Blake, bit of an upset
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 10:31:14 AM
Serra beating Nieminen is decent for Murray, I know which of the two I'd rather be playing in round 3. Should be in the 4th round with minimal fuss.

Blake and Del Potro 7 all in the 5th. Del Potro's knackered wrist must be loving that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 04:26:43 PM
Baltacha went through in staight sets, into round 3.

Unfortunately, she has Safina.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 04:33:30 PM
Why does everyone like Baltacha ???
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 04:37:57 PM
Because she's British, you'd assume.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 04:49:53 PM
Because she's British, you'd assume.
Oh. I never knew that. Tbf though, when you see someone named Elena Baltacha, British doesn't really come to mine.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 20 January 2010, 07:38:54 PM
Because she's British, you'd assume.
Oh. I never knew that. Tbf though, when you see someone named Elena Baltacha, British doesn't really come to mine.

:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Thursday 21 January 2010, 02:01:11 PM
Federer with a straight sets victory, into the 3rd round.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Friday 22 January 2010, 03:27:28 AM
Baltacha was rubbished by Safina :smitten:

Safina and Tsonga to win.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 22 January 2010, 03:28:16 AM
Tsonga  :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Friday 22 January 2010, 03:29:38 AM
Tsonga  :lol:
Look, I am racist and dislike the Williams sisters. Tsonga and Monfeeee are all I have.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 22 January 2010, 03:32:38 AM
Fair play.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 January 2010, 09:48:07 AM
Del Potro out, Murray looking in excellent form but has Rafa next in the Quarter Final. I think he can take him this time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Monday 25 January 2010, 12:02:02 PM
Federer through easily against Hewitt. Tsonga survives a marathon against Almagro while Davydenko is also through.

QF line-up, where it gets fun:

Federer v Davydenko
Djokovic v Tsonga
Nadal v Murray
Roddick v Cilic
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Monday 25 January 2010, 12:57:03 PM
Djokovic has been lucky with the draw, yet to face a seed whereas Tsonga has had a couple of tough games, I wouldn't be surprised if Tsonga won that or at least pushed NoDjo to 5 sets. Davydenko's in great form but Federer will turn it up a notch and win, Roddick and Cilic will be tight, I guess you'd back Roddick on experience but Cilic is a beast on his day.

Murray is the only man not to drop a set but he's not had the hardest draw. Anderson, Gicquel and Serra aren't going to pose anybody in the top 20 a problem let alone the top 5, whilst Isner was only seeded at the last minute and is the exact type of player Murray can dominate due to his court coverage and return of serve. Nadal will probably once again have too much for him if he hits anywhere near his best form, but Murray showed at the US Open a few years ago on the hardcourts he has what it takes to beat him so let's see what happens.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 25 January 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Murray/Nadal and Federer/Davydenko look like they'll be superb matchups. The higher seeded players have to go in as favourites but there's a hell of a lot of quality in those two games and anything could happen. Really hope Murray does it, seems a big ask though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Monday 25 January 2010, 07:06:07 PM
Murray/Nadal and Federer/Davydenko look like they'll be superb matchups. The higher seeded players have to go in as favourites but there's a hell of a lot of quality in those two games and anything could happen. Really hope Murray does it, seems a big ask though.

Think the Murray match will be top draw, he played really well against that giant.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Monday 25 January 2010, 07:09:26 PM
Murray/Nadal and Federer/Davydenko look like they'll be superb matchups. The higher seeded players have to go in as favourites but there's a hell of a lot of quality in those two games and anything could happen. Really hope Murray does it, seems a big ask though.

Think the Murray match will be top draw, he played really well against that giant.

He looks in decent nick at the moment. Not sure what to make of Nadal atm, he's struggled against the top players since his injury problems really started to hit home. Gutted I'm restricted to live text commentry for this game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 26 January 2010, 12:36:54 AM
Murray needs to sort the second serve out, it's a big weakness and a fantastic returner like Nadal will eat it for Breakfast.

Murray is the favourite on skybet which i'm quite surprised at. He has an excellent chance if he performs like he did against Isner though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 27 January 2010, 12:40:16 PM
Murray does not hit the ball flat, man, what are you talking about? He's one of the biggest pushers on the tour.

Cilic plays an attacking game so it'll be him deciding whether he goes through to the final or not. Murray will defend as usual.

:lol:

What is that based on? Him beating Nadal?

Federer through again to his 23rd consecutive grand-slam semifinal. Imo, that's his most impressive record; the sheer consistent brilliance of the man.

He played like s*** in the first set and the start of the second but really turned it on after until the end of the 4th when both players hit some marvellous shots.

Tsonga's taken the first set against Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 27 January 2010, 12:43:55 PM
Pretty poor attempt at a thread merge there?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Wednesday 27 January 2010, 05:01:26 PM
Fed Xpress - 2-6 6-3 6-0 7-5.

vs

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga - 7-6 (8-6) 6-7 (5-7) 1-6 6-3 6-1.


Murray - 6-3 7-6 (7-2) 3-0 up when a right-knee injury forced Nadal to quit.

vs

Marin Cilic - 7-6 (7-4) 6-3 3-6 2-6 6-3

Quote from: BBC

Britain's Laura Robson was pushed hard by 11th seed Yulia Putintseva of Russia before winning their Australian Open girls' singles second-round match.

The 2008 Wimbledon junior champion, aged 16, came through 6-2 3-6 6-2 against an opponent a year younger.

Robson trailed by a break in the final set but reeled off five games in a row and plays Romania's Cristina Dinu next.

The Briton is already into the quarter-finals of the women's doubles with Australian Sally Peers.

They will play 15th seeds Agnieszka Radwanska and Maria Kirilenko on Wednesday, while Robson will also play Dinu on the same day.

 606: DEBATE
Can Laura Robson win a title in Melbourne? 
Asked if she could handle the workload, the Londoner said: "I don't see why not. I've worked really hard on my fitness.

"I feel a lot stronger than a year ago. I've really worked hard cross-training. I generally feel better."

Fellow Briton Oliver Golding came through a tough battle against Ireland's Sam Barry in the boys' singles second round, eventually winning it 6-7 (8-10) 6-3 6-4.

And Tom Allen and Jack Carpenter beat Kalle Averfalk and Leandro Toledo 6-2 6-3 in the second round of the boys' doubles.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Wednesday 27 January 2010, 11:45:32 PM
Why have you posted that Robson article? She lost the doubles and beat Dinu, into the quarters now.

Having watched Tsonga today, Federer will beat him with ease. Murray and Cilic will be a lot closer, Murray and his team are very good at analysing his losses and they'll have learnt a lot from the US Open defeat. Murray in 4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 28 January 2010, 08:51:25 AM
Murray on court now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 28 January 2010, 09:10:31 AM
First break of serve to Cilic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: PM on Thursday 28 January 2010, 10:00:31 AM
Cilic consolidated that break to take the 1st set, but Murray has the first break of the second in extraordinary fashion.

Yes I'm watching at work.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Thursday 28 January 2010, 11:35:40 AM
Murray playing well now, hit an outrageous winner in the second set to fire himself (and the crowd) up, double break up in the fourth - good night Cilic?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Thursday 28 January 2010, 12:30:02 PM
Well done Muzza, comfortably through in the end
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 28 January 2010, 12:44:18 PM
Has anybody seen Federer and Jimmy Carr in the same room?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 28 January 2010, 02:09:48 PM
Wow, just seen some of the Murray match. He's looking better than I've seen him play before, without doubt.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 28 January 2010, 03:45:53 PM
Can't wait for this. Too bad it's a bit early to have a couple beers with!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Thursday 28 January 2010, 09:56:57 PM
Can't wait for this. Too bad it's a bit early to have a couple beers with!

Gay
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 28 January 2010, 10:28:38 PM
Can't wait for this. Too bad it's a bit early to have a couple beers with!

Gay

Solution: holiday to Australia and watch it on tv there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Thursday 28 January 2010, 11:14:48 PM
Murray playing well now, hit an outrageous winner in the second set to fire himself (and the crowd) up, double break up in the fourth - good night Cilic?
Is that the one where Cilic lobbed him and he sprinted to get it and hit an unreachable passing shot?
What a f***ing shot  :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Thursday 28 January 2010, 11:17:46 PM
Really looking forward to the final. Almost certainly against Fed who's looked a class apart at times in this tournament but it should be a really good game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 28 January 2010, 11:24:34 PM
Baltacha was rubbished by Safina :smitten:

Safina and Tsonga to win.
It's happening.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Friday 29 January 2010, 08:08:13 AM
Murray claims that he wants to face Federer in the final...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 29 January 2010, 09:34:32 AM
I've never liked him, but Federer is miles ahead of any other player on the circuit. He's making Tsonga look like a junior.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:18:32 AM
So Federer through with minimal fuss, final should be a great match as long as Murray doesn't choke.

Laura Robson into the girls final as well, impressive again.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:44:53 AM
Was that the most pointless semi-final ever? Why didn't they just give Federer a bye?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MKSC on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:04:24 AM
So Federer through with minimal fuss, final should be a great match as long as Murray doesn't choke.

Laura Robson into the girls final as well, impressive again.

Just to check, Laura Robson is 16 isn't she?? If she's not then I need to get some counselling as I have a real problem.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:49:32 AM
She turned 16 earlier this month
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fenham Mag on Friday 29 January 2010, 12:40:07 PM
Messi is the expert on these things but Laura Robson is going to be a corker in a few years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MKSC on Friday 29 January 2010, 02:05:09 PM
Messi is the expert on these things but Laura Robson is going to be a corker in a few years.

She's not too bad now to be honest. Well at least she's legal, makes me feel better about myself.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 29 January 2010, 08:02:57 PM
Messi is the expert on these things but Laura Robson is going to be a corker in a few years.

She's not too bad now to be honest. Well at least she's legal, makes me feel better about myself.

And you saying that makes me feel better about myself :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:46:56 PM
Bit disappointed in the on court interview I just saw with Federer there "I know he wants to win it for Britains first grand slam in what.... 150,000 years". Cocky t***. You're a freak of nature as far as Swiss sport is concerned.
I like Federer but I want Murray to smash the f***er all over the court now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:52:01 PM
Bit disappointed in the on court interview I just saw with Federer there "I know he wants to win it for Britains first grand slam in what.... 150,000 years". Cocky t***. You're a freak of nature as far as Swiss sport is concerned.
I like Federer but I want Murray to smash the f***er all over the court now.


He's probably the greatest player of all time, if anyone is allowed to be cocky it's him :lol:

Really looking forward to this game, I'd love Murray to win but if they both play well it could be an epic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:58:27 PM
He's probably the greatest player of all time, if anyone is allowed to be cocky it's him :lol:
Really looking forward to this game, I'd love Murray to win but if they both play well it could be an epic.
Oh aye I agree  :laugh: but it just verged on being disrespectful. Never heard him make a comment of that type before so it just surprised me.
Federer is an absolute joy to watch. Should be a phenomenal match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Keefaz on Friday 29 January 2010, 10:59:43 PM
Has Murray learned to serve?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:02:19 PM
Has Murray learned to serve?

A few years ago now. Probably one of the first things he learnt tbh.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Cronky on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:03:45 PM
I think Murray will have the crowd behind him, and he'll make good use of that.

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be enough.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:04:08 PM
I'm disappointed in Tsonga. I really thought he would win the whole thing. I hope Federer rubbishes Murray with the same kind of alacrity, though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:04:28 PM
I think Murray will have the crowd behind him, and he'll make good use of that.

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be enough.

I don't think he will, don't they love Fed in Oz?

If Fed plays at full whack he'll win, if he's a little bit off then Murray has a chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:04:43 PM
I'm disappointed in Tsonga. I really thought he would win the whole thing. I hope Federer rubbishes Murray with the same kind of alacrity, though.

Why?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:06:44 PM
I'm disappointed in Tsonga. I really thought he would win the whole thing. I hope Federer rubbishes Murray with the same kind of alacrity, though.

Why?

Worse postioning than his cousin.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:10:13 PM
I'm disappointed in Tsonga. I really thought he would win the whole thing. I hope Federer rubbishes Murray with the same kind of alacrity, though.

Why?
On which account? For Tsonga, I just think it would be very nice to have someone with an African surname to win an Open title. I think it's a shame that the continent doesn't have any decent players. I dislike Murray. No reason, just watching him talk and play I have a negative reaction to him. I liked Henman though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Cronky on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:10:50 PM
I think Murray will have the crowd behind him, and he'll make good use of that.

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be enough.


I don't think he will, don't they love Fed in Oz?

If Fed plays at full whack he'll win, if he's a little bit off then Murray has a chance.

I think Murray's feisty character appeals to the Aussies. Plus Scotland and Australia are united in their dislike / resentment of the English. And he's the underdog.

I'd agree though that Federer's form needs to dip for Murray to win. He looks awesome at the moment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 29 January 2010, 11:25:02 PM
Has Murray learned to serve?

His first serve is one of the best on tour. Second serve still a big weakness though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Saturday 30 January 2010, 12:55:42 AM
I'm disappointed in Tsonga. I really thought he would win the whole thing. I hope Federer rubbishes Murray with the same kind of alacrity, though.

Why?
On which account? For Tsonga, I just think it would be very nice to have someone with an African surname to win an Open title. I think it's a shame that the continent doesn't have any decent players. I dislike Murray. No reason, just watching him talk and play I have a negative reaction to him. I liked Henman though.

I meant Murray, fair play though. I'm the other way around with Henman/Murray mind.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Geordiesned on Sunday 31 January 2010, 09:03:33 AM
Canny match so far this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Sunday 31 January 2010, 09:07:11 AM
Very good match so far, he is making Federer dig deep. After the 1st game of the match I thought it was going to be another New York but fair play to Murray he has fought back well and is look agressive, he plays so much better when he goes for shots.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: catmag on Sunday 31 January 2010, 09:52:28 AM
Federer is just too good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:28:40 AM
I would fancy Murray against anyone else in the world at the moment, no doubt. Unfortunately, Federer doesn't just have the potential to get to another level, he does so time and time again.

Murray hasn't been particularly bad, it's just whenever he gets close to breaking, Federer produces some fine tennis. Don't think the end is far away, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:33:40 AM
0-40, he MUST take one of these.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:34:53 AM
Murray breaks.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:35:40 AM
p*ss poor by Federer that. He's tried to coast this set when he should have went right for the kill early on.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:37:52 AM
Federer's rattled, Murray rejuvenated.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:48:35 AM
Federer breaks back, oh dear.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Sunday 31 January 2010, 10:49:16 AM
Disappointing
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:10:51 AM
Set points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:11:44 AM
Federer produces a ridiculously angled shot, Murray serves for the set..... and fluffs it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:14:55 AM
Murray should have had this tie-break sewn up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: catmag on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:17:50 AM
This is mad :lol: Even if he does win this set I don't think he could physically play another two sets! (Murray that is)

4th set point fluffed by Murray..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:21:31 AM
5th....

and Federer wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:21:48 AM
This tie break is incredible
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: James on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:22:03 AM
Federer's wife looks like his mum
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:23:40 AM
Federer too good for the first 2 sets. However you look at it, Murray had him in the 3rd set and wasted numerous opportunities.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:24:36 AM
Thank the lord that is finally over. If I had to put up with Murrays entourage, specifically the baldy one, cheering every single point he won as if he'd won the championship, I possibly would have hurt someone.

Murray will have nightmares about that 3rd set. If he could have got his first serve in at key points, he could have made a real fight of it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:48:32 AM
Must say waking up to seeing Murray loses in straight sets plastered all over SKy news with a picture of him looking more Scottish than ever fills me with great joy.

Oh happy days...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Greg on Sunday 31 January 2010, 11:49:49 AM
Federer is just too good.

This.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Cronky on Sunday 31 January 2010, 12:18:48 PM
I've never seen Murray look quite so disappointed and emotional. I think he realised that he had a chance to get back into the match in the third set and couldn't take it.

It's difficult for Murray because he was the underdog and the pressure ought to have been on Federer, but because of the expectations heaped on a British player, he ends up tightening up rather than really going for it, which would have been his best chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 31 January 2010, 12:46:11 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 31 January 2010, 02:29:18 PM
Murray got owned.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 31 January 2010, 02:55:08 PM
That 3rd set tie breaker was fantastic.

Federer just can't be beaten when he plays like that though, the guy is unreal.

Murray just needs Federer to fade and then I can't see any way he doesn't win a slam. I'd back him over anyone else in the game on the hardcourt, and with 2 slams a year played on that surface there's no way he doesn't close the deal at some point.

Which is unfortunate, cos he may be the most dislikeable sportsman the UK has ever produced. :lol:

How long more can Federer keep this up?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 31 January 2010, 06:21:51 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.

You won't stop spewing out that s**** ever will you?

Federer was supposed to have faded with the emergence of Nadal, just won't happen until he loses his passion for the game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 31 January 2010, 06:26:53 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.

You won't stop spewing out that s**** ever will you?

Federer was supposed to have faded with the emergence of Nadal, just won't happen until he loses his passion for the game.

As soon as he does the grand slam, he'll retire. Pretty certain of that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 31 January 2010, 07:30:57 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.

You won't stop spewing out that s**** ever will you?

Federer was supposed to have faded with the emergence of Nadal, just won't happen until he loses his passion for the game.

Eh? What have I said that you disagree with?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 31 January 2010, 07:40:28 PM
I think she just disagrees with you yourself as an entity, rather than anything in particular you've said, to be honest.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 31 January 2010, 07:49:41 PM
Disagrees with Andy Murray as an entity.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Sunday 31 January 2010, 08:54:08 PM
Federer was just too good tonight. The guy is playing without any kind of pressure really. After breaking the record the only thing he can do is win the Grandslam and go for gold at 2012. Nobody will be shocked if he manages it.

As people of said even if Murray had won set 3 which he should have he would have been taken out in the 4th IMO.

I think Murray's run to the final proves that he can win a Slam but at the moment Federer is just too good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Sunday 31 January 2010, 08:55:52 PM
at least we were spared tomorrows MINT headline.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 1 February 2010, 01:32:22 AM
Disagrees with Andy Murray as an entity.

I've actually warmed to him since K Sears was on the scene, and today showed he isn't a complete t***.

He's a cracking player, but you can't say that he'll definitely win a Grand Slam once RF retires. Simply -

A) You don't know that Murray won't regress at some point.
B) You don't know that players with arguably more potential than Murray won't start to realise it sometime soon.
C) You don't know if Rafa will be around or anywhere near his best ,which at times, to a certain extent is even more untouchable than Federer.
D) Federer could be around for a good few years to come.

I just don't agree with Ronaldo on tennis in general.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 1 February 2010, 12:18:35 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.

You won't stop spewing out that s**** ever will you?

Federer was supposed to have faded with the emergence of Nadal, just won't happen until he loses his passion for the game.

As soon as he does the grand slam, he'll retire. Pretty certain of that.

No way, man. He's already said, quite a few times in fact, that he'll play until 2012 Olympics, and he's also said numerous times that he wants to play until his kids are old enough to remember him play (when they're 5 or 6, I suppose). And this is also not taking into account the fact that this guy seriously lives and breathes tennis; it's his passion, not his job. He's devoted to it not because he wants to win but because he just loves playing tennis, so I don't see him retiring unless he goes a couple of years without a slam. With the way his game has evolved in the past couple of years, he could easily play until 35.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shearergol on Monday 1 February 2010, 01:39:09 PM
Too tentative on the big points, been his major problem in the last 3 Slams. But still at least the 3rd best player in the world and will get that first Slam very soon.

You won't stop spewing out that s**** ever will you?

Federer was supposed to have faded with the emergence of Nadal, just won't happen until he loses his passion for the game.

As soon as he does the grand slam, he'll retire. Pretty certain of that.

No way, man. He's already said, quite a few times in fact, that he'll play until 2012 Olympics, and he's also said numerous times that he wants to play until his kids are old enough to remember him play (when they're 5 or 6, I suppose). And this is also not taking into account the fact that this guy seriously lives and breathes tennis; it's his passion, not his job. He's devoted to it not because he wants to win but because he just loves playing tennis, so I don't see him retiring unless he goes a couple of years without a slam. With the way his game has evolved in the past couple of years, he could easily play until 35.

I didn't say he'd do the grandslam this year though did I ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Monday 1 February 2010, 09:12:57 PM
Disagrees with Andy Murray as an entity.

I've actually warmed to him since K Sears was on the scene, and today showed he isn't a complete t***.

He's a cracking player, but you can't say that he'll definitely win a Grand Slam once RF retires. Simply -

A) You don't know that Murray won't regress at some point.
B) You don't know that players with arguably more potential than Murray won't start to realise it sometime soon.
C) You don't know if Rafa will be around or anywhere near his best ,which at times, to a certain extent is even more untouchable than Federer.
D) Federer could be around for a good few years to come.

I just don't agree with Ronaldo on tennis in general.


I think the only one at the moment that looks to have more potential than Murray is Del Potro, other than that I think he is on par with the others. However, Del Potro blows hot and cold at times but I think he'll be a consistent last 4 in the future.

I just hope Nadal can gets back somewhere near his best he was a joy to watch.

You mention Murray regressing, its possible, especially after being beat so comprehensively again by Federer in a Slam final. Hopefully his self belief will remain, he knows he can beat anyone on the circuit, he really needs to work on that 2nd serve it is a big hole in his game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 23 May 2010, 02:54:08 PM
The French Open is on.

Federer lost to Nadal last week at the Madrid Masters, but it was much, much closer than the other defeats that he's had to Nadal on clay. They've both got a relatively straightforward route to the final. Here's hoping Federer can repeat, and this time beat Rafa in the process.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 23 May 2010, 03:04:17 PM
Nadal has looked over his injury problems!

amazing that federer hasn't had the injury problem's which most other players get, show's how suited he is too playing tennis
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 03:37:50 AM
Murray nearly went out yesterday. He was down 2-0 sets to Gasquet but fought back when Gasquet ran out of gas in the last 3 sets. Murray was still too defensive, imo, but did well against someone who was in good form.

Federer was also through in straights.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 25 May 2010, 10:59:01 AM
Murray nearly went out yesterday. He was down 2-0 sets to Gasquet but fought back when Gasquet ran out of gas in the last 3 sets. Murray was still too defensive, imo, but did well against someone who was in good form.

Federer was also through in straights.

I think your under estimating gasquet who has been in brilliant form recently
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:17:36 PM
Federer just got spanked by Soderling. Unbelievable tennis from the Swede.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 07:39:34 PM
Federer just got spanked by Soderling. Unbelievable tennis from the Swede.

his run last year to the final has just turned into a class act, he beat nadal last year as well
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Leazes_Lad on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:03:48 PM

Murray needs to stop going in a huff when he is loosing and just play f*cking tennis. Apparently he was a spoilt little brat growing up and got what he wanted in school (Mums mates husband was headmaster) and it shows how he plays on the court today. Henman was weak and pathetic, Murray could be a winner if he just learnt to get stuck in when things get tough
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:07:27 PM
Henman made the best of his limited ability, so he couldn't have been that weak and pathetic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:39:15 PM
Come on Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:43:43 PM
Henman made the best of his limited ability, so he couldn't have been that weak and pathetic.

what i hated was that he was the best volley player in the world, and his serve and volley percentage was pathetic
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:49:00 PM
He didn't really have the tools to come in behind, but I see what you're saying.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 08:52:56 PM
He didn't really have the tools to come in behind, but I see what you're saying.

true, but his net play was very good, shame rest of his game was very average, though he had 1 excellent chance of winning wimbledon and he blew it
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 09:17:09 PM
2001 would have been his but for the rain.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 1 June 2010, 09:24:40 PM
2001 would have been his but for the rain.

yeah that was the one I was on about! though i was happy that goran won the tournament, great character
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Leazes_Lad on Wednesday 2 June 2010, 11:12:27 PM
Henman made the best of his limited ability, so he couldn't have been that weak and pathetic.

He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 3 June 2010, 12:19:39 AM
I don't really agree, he was a very average tennis player who made the semi-finals of 3 slams including The French.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 4 June 2010, 04:24:02 PM
I hope he wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:18:05 PM
Nadal has been f***ing amazing. He's retrieved balls from impossible positions.

Soderling up 1-0 in the second set but lost the first set 6-4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:24:14 PM
Awesome from both players.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:24:56 PM
nadal on that point  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:42:45 PM
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:45:10 PM
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.

Are you p*ssed?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:47:42 PM
These two have history.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:51:53 PM
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.

11 titles in a professional career over 13 years, less than 1 a year, murray has already by quite a margin achieved more than henman
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 6 June 2010, 03:53:56 PM
And Murray to be fair is twice the player and ten times the athlete.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 6 June 2010, 04:31:11 PM
hate the f***ing french crowd
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 6 June 2010, 04:56:53 PM
GET IN RAFA
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: chicago_shearer on Sunday 6 June 2010, 05:42:43 PM
I hope Nadal wins a trophy of solid diamond or some extremely sharp carbon steel alloy at some point in his career so that he will chip his teeth and stop biting everything he gets handed. 
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 6 June 2010, 09:08:27 PM
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.

Are you p*ssed?
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.

Are you p*ssed?

No. What dont you understand.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 6 June 2010, 09:09:36 PM
He never had a 'winners' mentality. I don't think he did make the most of his ability (not that Murray has or perhaps ever will)

$11,635,542, highest ranking    No. 4, 11 titles & few GS semi finals say he wasnt bad. Tennis is game often domited by legends of certain era's, the rest are struggling really.

11 titles in a professional career over 13 years, less than 1 a year, murray has already by quite a margin achieved more than henman

I didn't realise we were comparing Tiger to Misery.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 19 July 2010, 06:06:09 PM
Thinking of Going for a game of tennis with the bird, on thursday nights while the Boy is at Rugby,as they have courts and athletics track and other stuff on the site. So bit of Advice required, not played for about 20 year- whtas a good racket for a novice, where to get it, what should I be looking for- and How do you play the game
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 20 July 2010, 12:32:47 PM
If you are just starting out again then look for something with an oversized head. Something above 100 sq inches would be good. I'd also stay away from anything that has a heavy frame. A lot of people aren't keen on rackets that are too light either but they tend to be my preference.

The Head Ti6 has a massive 115 sq inch head and is very light. I've got one in my tennis bag and use it often enough. The Babolat E-Sense Lite is another good option as it's relatively cheap and fits the criteria. They also have the XS102 09 which looks comparable.

Playing the game is probably a secondary concern to start with. I found that you can't really enjoy it until both players are comfortably able to play forehands, backhands and serve the ball. When I picked it up again the first few times out we spent just trying to get a decent rally going. Tennis is a bit unforgiving in that the slightest miscue with technique can often see the ball rocket out of the court or in my case over the back fence.

http://www.prodirecttennis.com/deptHome.asp?depthome=rackets

Decent selection of rackets on that site. Most have mini reviews etc. I'd imagine you can then go out and pick one up at your nearest sports store. Most models have the weight and head dimensions printed on frame of the racket so you know what you've just picked up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Tuesday 20 July 2010, 02:03:08 PM
 :thup:


cheers
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 30 August 2010, 02:44:51 PM
US Open starts today 4pm on Sky Sports

Come on Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 30 August 2010, 09:58:57 PM
Murray to win this.  It's his best surface, and he is also in great form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: CPL on Monday 30 August 2010, 10:47:53 PM
Murray has another great opportunity has a kind draw also.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 1 September 2010, 09:10:49 AM
Nadal won last night :thup:

Murray on tonight around 6pm our time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Sunday 5 September 2010, 02:26:17 AM
Enjoyed the US so far, good game tonight between Djokovic and Blake. Djokovic is good but I've never liked him for some reason
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:02:59 AM
Nadal vs Giles Simon tonight

Murray vs stan wawrinka

Come On Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:52:47 AM
Did anyone see the fight between the fans? :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 5 September 2010, 03:42:31 PM
Aye, hilarious.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 5 September 2010, 07:40:02 PM
Murray and Nadal on any time now. You will have to press the red button to watch Rafa.

Come On Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Sunday 5 September 2010, 08:17:37 PM
Bloody hell. Only just seen Fereder's shot through the legs from the other day. Cant believe he did that again.
Amazing.  :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:11:07 PM
Murray bottling it big time...again!!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:13:41 PM
Murray bottling it big time...again!!!

:dowie:

He's being outplayed at present. Not sure how that's him bottling it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:16:11 PM
Pity...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:18:55 PM
He was always going to lose when the dimwit commentator said the tournament was becoming a 'four-horse race' (Murray, Nadal, Federer and Djokovic) just because Nadal won and Murray was one set up on a tiebreak. Ridiculous. :angry:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:24:21 PM
Murray bottling it big time...again!!!

:dowie:

He's being outplayed at present. Not sure how that's him bottling it.

He was 3-0 up in the second and let it slip and was absolutely gash in the third. Definitely seems like bottling it to me.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:24:56 PM
Been poor all match tbf. You've got to give the opponent credit though rather than just assuming Murray is bottling it.

Edit - look at the number of winners for proof of that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:32:17 PM
I wouldn't count out Soderling just yet despite the fact he hasn't been great on the hard court surface all season and that the draw has him in the same section as Federer. Has been playing some nice stuff and because he has faded from view a little since Roland Garros he could be a good outside bet.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Sunday 5 September 2010, 11:48:13 PM
Buh-Bye
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Monday 6 September 2010, 12:06:37 AM
The dream is over
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 6 September 2010, 08:01:50 AM
Why do people keeptalking about murray wining grand slams. Whenever I watch him ( im no expert) he looks no where near the ability of the best players. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 6 September 2010, 08:49:30 AM
There are a lot of factors to take into consideration when comparing players.

Consistency is one of the key elements though and that's where Murray falls down. On a good day when his first serve is firing he is a great player. On an average day the percentage of first serves will drop below 60 and his second serve isn't good enough to keep him out of trouble.

His style of play also makes things difficult as he relies a lot on just returning the ball in the court and making the opposition play another shot. Often he drops the ball into areas of the court inviting his opponent to go on the offensive in the hope that will lead to an unforced error. There are times where his shot selection is far too defensive and safe such as last night when he had a chance to kill a point off and instead opted to play a sliced backhand into the middle of the court which was promptly thundered back at him.

His defensive style of tennis works against most players but when someone of ability like Wawrinka is having one of those days where everything he steps up to hit lands in the court then Murray doesn't have an alternative game plan. There's no way to mix his play up and give the other guy something to think about which means he has to rely on them running out of luck.

He's one of the very best at returning the ball but unfortunately you often have to do a little bit more than just dropping the ball back into play.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 6 September 2010, 09:06:37 AM
Big chance for Nadal to win his first US Open now and complete the career grand slam.

Come On Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 6 September 2010, 09:12:59 AM
Why do people keeptalking about murray wining grand slams. Whenever I watch him ( im no expert) he looks no where near the ability of the best players. :undecided:

That's just ignorance, mate. He's a hell of a player, he's been to 2 slam finals and will win one eventually. As for the other players, there's only Nadal and Federer who are better. And Federer is on the way down.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 6 September 2010, 09:33:34 AM
Why do people keeptalking about murray wining grand slams. Whenever I watch him ( im no expert) he looks no where near the ability of the best players. :undecided:

That's just ignorance, mate. He's a hell of a player, he's been to 2 slam finals and will win one eventually. As for the other players, there's only Nadal and Federer who are better. And Federer is on the way down.


How can you be so sure, it gets said every year, yet he fails every year. The longer he goes without winning one the harder it will become.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 6 September 2010, 11:57:14 AM
Why do people keeptalking about murray wining grand slams. Whenever I watch him ( im no expert) he looks no where near the ability of the best players. :undecided:

That's just ignorance, mate. He's a hell of a player, he's been to 2 slam finals and will win one eventually. As for the other players, there's only Nadal and Federer who are better. And Federer is on the way down.




and the bloke who just beat him....and the one who beat him the time before that....
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 6 September 2010, 06:38:59 PM
So going by that ridiculous logic he's better than Federer and Nadal then?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 6 September 2010, 06:41:18 PM
So going by that ridiculous logic he's better than Federer and Nadal then?


what ridiculous logic would that be?

That the better player wins the game. :lol:


(Talking about Majors Btw)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 6 September 2010, 08:53:22 PM
Yes, it's ridiculous logic. Murray has knocked Nadal out of 2 or 3 majors, doesn't make him a better player. Murray is basically the best of the rest.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 6 September 2010, 08:55:15 PM
Yes, it's ridiculous logic. Murray has knocked Nadal out of 2 or 3 majors, doesn't make him a better player. Murray is basically the best of the rest.




ok.


Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Friday 10 September 2010, 09:24:28 PM
Caroline out :(

Hopefully, Clijsters can beat V.Williams, and then win the whole thing
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: nufcmichael on Friday 10 September 2010, 11:02:56 PM
Caroline out :(

Hopefully, Clijsters can beat V.Williams, and then win the whole thing

Sadly yeah, she was really poor today Caroline
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 11 September 2010, 09:38:30 PM
Nadal through to his first US Open final. Fed just got thrashed in the second set. Hopefully he'll recover.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 11 September 2010, 11:37:22 PM
Fantastic match, this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 11 September 2010, 11:55:41 PM
Quality match.

Sad that federer lost, but djokovic showed no fear there at the end and he deserved it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 12 September 2010, 09:12:00 AM
Kim <3
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 14 September 2010, 08:23:25 AM
Nadal the US Open Champion. Beat Djokovic in4 sets.

Nadal has now completed the career grand slam.

Come On Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 14 September 2010, 05:46:39 PM
Nadal the US Open Champion. Beat Djokovic in4 sets.

Nadal has now completed the career grand slam.

Come On Rafa.

Congratulations to Nadal as I honestly thought he'd struggle on the hard court surface but it appears he has really gotten over his injuries.

The 52 week ranking system in tennis is always amusing. I see Clijsters despite retaining her title at the US Open has dropped two positions in the rankings because she couldn't do any better than she did last year while her final opponent Vera Zvonerva and semi final opponent Venus Williams both moved above her because they had better runs in the Open this year than last.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 14 September 2010, 06:45:58 PM
Stayed up for the final last night, what a great match from both players. Also watched the highlights a good 5 times today, Nadal was brilliant. Obviously a long way to go to catch Federer's 16 grand slams so far, but he has already achieved more than Federer had at the same age. Does anyone think Nadal could become the greatest of all time, or could already be considered it. I am for the latter.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 14 September 2010, 08:33:39 PM
He's been the greatest of all time for 2 years for me.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 15 January 2011, 06:56:23 PM
Australian Open starts tomorrow at midnight.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 15 January 2011, 07:25:34 PM
So giddy. Starts at 6 over here. Would be the perfect sports weekend if I didn't work today and miss the two NFL games.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 02:52:09 AM
Unseeded Dolgopolov just beat Soderling in 5 sets, going to play Murray in the next round provided he beats Melzer now :thup: Got a good feeling about this year  :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:01:29 AM
Quality game. With all Americans gone I'll be hoping for the highest seeds to get through for some great matches.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:08:36 AM
Quality game. With all Americans gone I'll be hoping for the highest seeds to get through for some great matches.

Disappointed with Roddick, just didnt look good at all. Mind you Wawrinka did look immense. Do you like Murray at all?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:11:45 AM
Wow. Amazing start..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:50:22 AM
Quality game. With all Americans gone I'll be hoping for the highest seeds to get through for some great matches.

Disappointed with Roddick, just didnt look good at all. Mind you Wawrinka did look immense. Do you like Murray at all?

Roddick was too passive I thought, he's still got skill and he's still just as athletic. I would've liked to see him be a bit more offensive. IT's pretty apparent Isner, Fish, and Querry won't be making the jump up either.

I like Murray. I have a hard time picking anyone as a favorite out of the top five, or even ten. I just kind of like of everybody and support the Americans. At this point I want a Nadal/Murray and Federer/Djokovic semi. Andy just won me some money with that first set, too.  :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:52:46 AM
Quality game. With all Americans gone I'll be hoping for the highest seeds to get through for some great matches.

Disappointed with Roddick, just didnt look good at all. Mind you Wawrinka did look immense. Do you like Murray at all?

Roddick was too passive I thought, he's still got skill and he's still just as athletic. I would've liked to see him be a bit more offensive. IT's pretty apparent Isner, Fish, and Querry won't be making the jump up either.

I like Murray. I have a hard time picking anyone as a favorite out of the top five, or even ten. I just kind of like of everybody and support the Americans. At this point I want a Nadal/Murray and Federer/Djokovic semi. Andy just won me some money with that first set, too.  :thup:

Yeah that would be a good match-up, would still like to see Murray beat Nadal and then Federer, just can't see it happening though. Ah good man what was it, correct score?

Also what is it with this tournament and green?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: LucaAltieri on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:52:58 AM
Can't believe this thread made it to 21 pages. Granted, it has taken two years but I still wouldn't have thought it possible to write 21 pages on the subject of tennis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:53:47 AM
Can't believe this thread made it to 21 pages. Granted, it has taken two years but I still wouldn't have thought it possible to write 21 pages on the subject of tennis.

You not a fan? :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 24 January 2011, 03:58:27 AM
Quality game. With all Americans gone I'll be hoping for the highest seeds to get through for some great matches.

Disappointed with Roddick, just didnt look good at all. Mind you Wawrinka did look immense. Do you like Murray at all?

Roddick was too passive I thought, he's still got skill and he's still just as athletic. I would've liked to see him be a bit more offensive. IT's pretty apparent Isner, Fish, and Querry won't be making the jump up either.

I like Murray. I have a hard time picking anyone as a favorite out of the top five, or even ten. I just kind of like of everybody and support the Americans. At this point I want a Nadal/Murray and Federer/Djokovic semi. Andy just won me some money with that first set, too.  :thup:

Yeah that would be a good match-up, would still like to see Murray beat Nadal and then Federer, just can't see it happening though. Ah good man what was it, correct score?

Also what is it with this tournament and green?

Number of games in the set, I went with 9 or less. Pretty much a crapshoot.

The green is deadly with an HDTV.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: LucaAltieri on Monday 24 January 2011, 04:00:00 AM
Can't believe this thread made it to 21 pages. Granted, it has taken two years but I still wouldn't have thought it possible to write 21 pages on the subject of tennis.

You not a fan? :lol:

Not exactly.  :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 04:00:53 AM
Can't believe this thread made it to 21 pages. Granted, it has taken two years but I still wouldn't have thought it possible to write 21 pages on the subject of tennis.

You not a fan? :lol:

Not exactly.  :lol:

Any particular reason?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: themanupstairs on Monday 24 January 2011, 04:35:28 AM

 Murray 2 sets up on Melzer. On form
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 24 January 2011, 09:57:58 AM
Murray looking in superb form, only criticism is that the games might have been too easy for him so he isn't really being tested.  Though the benefits are he will be in superb fitness for 1/4's.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 24 January 2011, 10:01:07 AM
RAFA RAFA RAFA
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 24 January 2011, 12:53:02 PM
RAFA RAFA RAFA

Improving.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 24 January 2011, 06:47:08 PM
RAFA RAFA RAFA

Improving.

He's already the best player of all time. :snod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 24 January 2011, 06:48:38 PM
RAFA RAFA RAFA

Improving.

He's already the best player of all time. :snod:

Agreed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 24 January 2011, 06:50:43 PM
RAFA RAFA RAFA

Improving.

He's already the best player of all time. :snod:

Agreed.

Not yet. Give him a year or two.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 12:29:12 AM
He's a couple of years (at least) off that, like. Sampras takes some surpassing.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 03:47:05 PM
Sampras is not even close, man.

Federer is, by far, the GOAT; in terms of how good his peak was, in terms of his dominance over a few years, in terms of his longevity. No one comes close. Nadal might, but when Nadal loses his speed, he'll lose his greatest strength, imo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:24:15 PM
Oh how I wish Nadal could have won loads against the likes of Roddick, Baghdatis and Philippoussis. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:29:25 PM
Yeah, he just lost to them instead :razz:

Who has Nadal beaten in GS finals other than Federer? Berdych, Djokovic, Soderling and Puerta. That's a list of the greats, if there ever was one.

When Nadal comes close to having a year like Federer's 2006, then he might have a case for being the GOAT based on his 'peak', and that's not even considering the other criteria that leaves Federer clearly on top.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:43:13 PM
Yeah, he just lost to them instead :razz:

Who has Nadal beaten in GS finals other than Federer? Berdych, Djokovic, Soderling and Puerta. That's a list of the greats, if there ever was one.

When Nadal comes close to having a year like Federer's 2006, then he might have a case for being the GOAT based on his 'peak', and that's not even considering the other criteria that leaves Federer clearly on top.

Yeah, agree with this.

People argue that Rafa is a better player than Fed because of his record over him but I think Rafa's game is just perfect for Federer. It doesn't necessarily make him a better player. Rafter had a great record against Agassi but I doubt anyone claims Rafter was the better player.

The debate has to be that Rafa has only enjoyed true dominance on clay. 1 Aussie, 1 US and 2 Wimbledons is amazing but it hardly compares to Federers record at those events. Rafa is without a doubt the best clay courter ever but he needs to maintain his standard of the last 12 months on other surfaces before he can claim to be anywhere near the greatest.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:49:04 PM
Yeah, he just lost to them instead :razz:

Who has Nadal beaten in GS finals other than Federer? Berdych, Djokovic, Soderling and Puerta. That's a list of the greats, if there ever was one.

When Nadal comes close to having a year like Federer's 2006, then he might have a case for being the GOAT based on his 'peak', and that's not even considering the other criteria that leaves Federer clearly on top.

Nadal has beaten Federer in 5 of his 9 grand slam victories, Soderling and Berdych had just beaten Federer (defending champion) in the same tournament and Djokovic is a superior player to any of Philippoussis, Roddick, Hewitt, Agassi, Baghdatis or Gonzalez.

Fed's 2006? Try Rafa's 2010.

Come at me bro. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:56:33 PM
Yeah, he just lost to them instead :razz:

Who has Nadal beaten in GS finals other than Federer? Berdych, Djokovic, Soderling and Puerta. That's a list of the greats, if there ever was one.

When Nadal comes close to having a year like Federer's 2006, then he might have a case for being the GOAT based on his 'peak', and that's not even considering the other criteria that leaves Federer clearly on top.

Rafa won the last 3 Grand Slams in 2010, pretty impressive after everyone had wrote him off.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 04:57:55 PM
I won't consider Federer the best until he beats Nadal at Roland Garros.  Nadal has beaten Federer on his favourite surface (Grass).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 05:01:19 PM
I won't consider Federer the best until he beats Nadal at Roland Garros.  Nadal has beaten Federer on his favourite surface (Grass).

I would debate that Federer is superior at Flushing Meadows on the DecoTurf. Fed dominated the grass but only Roddick really posed any sort of threat on Grass at the time.

Federer owned Flushing Meadows for 5 years. When I say owned, I mean owned. He was untouchable there. And this was at a time when almost every player on the tour would say American hard courts were their favourite surface.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 05:01:20 PM
Sampras is not even close, man.

Federer is, by far, the GOAT; in terms of how good his peak was, in terms of his dominance over a few years, in terms of his longevity. No one comes close. Nadal might, but when Nadal loses his speed, he'll lose his greatest strength, imo.

Not even close? What a load of s****.

Sampras dominated in an era far, far better equipped with talent than this one. Up until the last 3 years at least.

Who was Federer's competition from 2003-2007? Nadal on the clay, fair enough. Who else?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 05:12:33 PM
Yeah, he just lost to them instead :razz:

Who has Nadal beaten in GS finals other than Federer? Berdych, Djokovic, Soderling and Puerta. That's a list of the greats, if there ever was one.

When Nadal comes close to having a year like Federer's 2006, then he might have a case for being the GOAT based on his 'peak', and that's not even considering the other criteria that leaves Federer clearly on top.

Nadal has beaten Federer in 5 of his 9 grand slam victories, Soderling and Berdych had just beaten Federer (defending champion) in the same tournament and Djokovic is a superior player to any of Philippoussis, Roddick, Hewitt, Agassi, Baghdatis or Gonzalez.

Fed's 2006? Try Rafa's 2010.

Come at me bro. :undecided:

Yeah, Soderling and Berdych had just beaten an out-of-form Federer, who has since then returned to dominating Soderling. It's not about who you beat in the finals anyway, because they must have beaten good players to make it there, and you must have beaten good players to make it there as well. It's only the winning that counts.

Fed's 2006 completely dominates any other tennis season since the 60s, to be honest. This is based on him dominating three slams, making the final of another, winning the year-end tournament, winning and making the finals of Masters tournament, winning 92 matches and losing only 5. As good as Nadal was last year, he still lost 10 matches, which is actually more than Federer's second best season, his '05 season - which also included 2 GS and a total of 11 titles won.

Rafa won only 7 titles last season. Now go back to Federer's 2004 season, which was also a 3 GS season, 11 titles, and losing only 6 matches. That season is better than Rafa's '10.

From 04-06, Fed lost only 15 matches, winning 8 GS, two year-end tournaments, 34 titles and won more than 90% of his matches for three consecutive seasons. Nadal has not had a season that can better any of those seasons, and it's unlikely because he's already started playing a lighter schedule, geared around the GS.

So you might say that it's not the other titles that count, it's the GS. Well, Federer's GS record speaks for himself. Rafa will win a lot more grand slams, for sure, but I bet that Federer ends up with more at the end of both their careers, and Federer will end up owning the record for most semis and finals made at pretty much every grand slam, which goes to show how consistently awesome he was. As good as Rafa is, even at his peak - now - he's still succumbing to early exits at grand slams, something Federer never did in his peak.

The h2h record is also incredible skewed because Rafa was never good enough to make the finals - the only time he'd get to play Federer - of hardcourt tournaments until only recently, and the timing of his peak and Federer's decline has made for some very good matches in the finals of non-clay tournaments since then. But when Federer peaked and dominated the field like no one else has, Rafa was only good on clay.

Rafa's a great player. He'll probably end up #2 all time, behind Federer, which is very, very impressive.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 05:19:08 PM
Sampras is not even close, man.

Federer is, by far, the GOAT; in terms of how good his peak was, in terms of his dominance over a few years, in terms of his longevity. No one comes close. Nadal might, but when Nadal loses his speed, he'll lose his greatest strength, imo.

Not even close? What a load of s****.

Sampras dominated in an era far, far better equipped with talent than this one. Up until the last 3 years at least.

Who was Federer's competition from 2003-2007? Nadal on the clay, fair enough. Who else?

Sampras' record at the French speaks for itself. When you are s*** on one surface, you can't claim that you're the GOAT, especially when your direct competition is one of the best ever on that surface and any surface.

The reason people think Federer had no competition was because completely owned the tour. Owned it. That's not a sign of a weak era of players. It just illustrates how great Federer was.

Going by your logic, who is Nadal's competition nowadays? Djokovic who chokes in big matches? Murray who hasn't learned how to play an attacking game? An aging Federer? There's literally no one outside of the top 4 players who shows up for the slams, with the exception of Del Potro who's been injured for a year, so Rafa's competition is pretty weak, going by your logic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 25 January 2011, 06:51:28 PM
Why are you bringing Nadal into it? I'm comparing Sampras and Federer.

Sampras had Agassi, Federer had Rodick. Sampras dominated by far the more competitive era, as I said.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:39:31 AM
Murray regaining a bit of form, into the Semi Final pretty untroubled all fortnight. Scheduled to play Nadal in the Semi Final if he wins (as expected).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:46:39 AM
Ferrer two sets up against Nadal. Wow.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:49:42 AM
Well he is injured...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:50:58 AM
Well he is injured...

Is he really...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:52:17 AM
Well he is injured...

Is he really...

Yes.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 10:53:01 AM
Rafa looked ill from the start he was sweating like Josef Fritzl on MTV Cribs after the 1st few points.

Put a fiver on Nadal @ 25/1, JUST IN CASE!!! Cant see it but thought if anyone can Rafa can.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:01:48 AM
He's pale as cum too. But look at him turning this around that spanish cockend.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:06:01 AM
He's pale as cum too. But look at him turning this around that spanish cockend.

It is over at 4-1 in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:23:32 AM
Nadal is gone.

Injury or not, that is why Federer will end up with the better career.

Watch Nadal recover to beat Fed in the French final and everyone to say 'oooh 6-2 h2h in GS finals', which is nonsense because Rafa has lost before the finals so many times.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:26:49 AM
Nadal is gone.

Injury or not, that is why Federer will end up with the better career.

Watch Nadal recover to beat Fed in the French final and everyone to say 'oooh 6-2 h2h in GS finals', which is nonsense because Rafa has lost before the finals so many times.

Calm down. :lol:  I just think all this Rafa bashing is extreme.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:36:29 AM
Federer at one point made it to 10 GS finals in a row. Then he lost in a semi. Then he made it to 8 more GS finals in a row. His consistency is what separates him from any other player. Federer owns a host of these records, notably the consecutive semis streak and the consecutive quarters streak (which is still alive), which won't be equalled by any of the top active players right now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Murray now has no excuse.


VAMOS RAFA!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:46:13 AM
Federer at one point made it to 10 GS finals in a row. Then he lost in a semi. Then he made it to 8 more GS finals in a row. His consistency is what separates him from any other player. Federer owns a host of these records, notably the consecutive semis streak and the consecutive quarters streak (which is still alive), which won't be equalled by any of the top active players right now.

I agree between 2004-2008 Federer was unbeatable and the best ever.  Now Nadal is the best player in the world.  Also federer had some shocking opposition in the earliest part of his dominating era.  What Federer and Nadal have done is raise the bar for the likes of Novak D, Murray etc.  The quality of men's tennis is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 11:50:18 AM
Also, come on Ferrer,Federer or Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ginola on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 12:36:16 PM
Hope Fed wins it really, having said that, as long as Murray doesn't I won't be too bothered.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 26 January 2011, 12:48:22 PM
Wouln't mind seeing a Djokovic Murray final tbh. As long as the Djoko won.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alpal78 on Thursday 27 January 2011, 06:41:44 AM
The women's singles draw just got boring, no point following that anymore  :angry:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 27 January 2011, 07:41:35 AM
I'm not sure why you think it has become boring. Clijsters has never won the Australian before and Na Li has never even been in a Grand Slam final. Na Li beat Clijsters the other week in Sydney for a minor title therefore it should be a bit of a contest.

From my perspective though I'm out of pocket having had £10 on Zvonareva at 14/1.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alpal78 on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:08:21 AM
I'm not sure why you think it has become boring. Clijsters has never won the Australian before and Na Li has never even been in a Grand Slam final. Na Li beat Clijsters the other week in Sydney for a minor title therefore it should be a bit of a contest.

From my perspective though I'm out of pocket having had £10 on Zvonareva at 14/1.

Don't mean to do a Keys + Gray, but you really think I'm watching women's singles because of the quality of the tennis?  :pow:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:18:51 AM
I guessed as much. It hasn't been a tournament for pretty girls though. Ivanovic went out in the first round and Kirilenko didn't last much longer. I'd acknowledge Wozniacki as pretty but Adidas have managed to distract me from noticing with a dress more silly than anything Venus Williams has turned up in.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:40:22 AM
Djokovic takes the opening set against Federer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:48:40 AM
Come on Novak, slay this gland slam hog.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:53:35 AM
Djokovic now a set and a break up, Federer in real trouble.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:00:15 AM
Fed breaks back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:04:03 AM
Djoker with all the errors now, has to hold here. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:06:04 AM
That's 0-40 and that's Djoker done.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:07:43 AM
Fed on fire right now... breaks again .
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:40:15 AM
Djokovic has turned it right round, should go 2-0 up.

Murray's best ever chance of a major right now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ocho on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:34:47 AM
11/2 on Fed making a comeback and winning?

At work, but is it worth a punt?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:37:04 AM
No chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:37:38 AM
Djokovic is hitting so well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:43:16 AM
GSM Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Such a tense match. Djokovic hit the ball so well. He deserved that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:47:18 AM
Good win for Djokovic. Good player but no Nadal or Federer so Murray really has no better chance.

Now watch him lose to Ferrer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Colocho on Thursday 27 January 2011, 12:14:39 PM
Murray's ganna win it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Thursday 27 January 2011, 01:49:57 PM
You just know something's going to go wrong here. Nadal out, Federer out, a favourable draw already has been made the best draw he could have possibly hoped for now those 2 have departed.

Ferrer in 5. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Slugsy on Thursday 27 January 2011, 02:07:53 PM
I am a Murray fan but he will no doubt screw up what is a golden opportunity
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 27 January 2011, 02:44:27 PM
Very negative in here but I'll just put that down to everyone being a NUFC supporter.

Ferrer's had a nice draw as well. Avoided Nalbandian and instead played Berankis, Raonic and a barely mobile Nadal in his last three games. He'll be sticking to the baseline as much as he can and trying to run the ball down a lot if he tries to play his normal game. Unlike most of the top players he doesn't have a great deal in his locker. The inside-out forehand is one he tends to favour though so Murray would do well not to play into it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 27 January 2011, 03:27:14 PM
No better chance for him to finally win a major but l've got a sneaky feeling he's going to bottle it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:11:53 PM
Murray's the best player left in the drawand this chance represents a real crossroad in his career. Win this one and there's no reason he cannot relax a little and win a load of slam tournaments in the next 5 or 6 years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:29:31 PM
Murray's the best player left in the drawand this chance represents a real crossroad in his career. Win this one and there's no reason he cannot relax a little and win a load of slam tournaments in the next 5 or 6 years.

Djokovic is the best player left in the draw.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:42:39 PM
You're biased.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:44:42 PM
Murray's the best player left in the drawand this chance represents a real crossroad in his career. Win this one and there's no reason he cannot relax a little and win a load of slam tournaments in the next 5 or 6 years.

I'd go along with that. The way things have just opened up for him here are ideal, they really couldn't have presented themselves any more perfectly. You have to worry a bit if he can't take this opportunity.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:45:21 PM
You're biased.

A little, but i think he has more in his locker than Murray, would be a great final like.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:46:50 PM
Supertoon, your dislike of Murray is clouding your judgement. Although Djokovic does have a slightly better record in the head-to-head at 4-3.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:47:56 PM
Supertoon, your dislike of Murray is clouding your judgement. Although Djokovic does have a slightly better record in the head-to-head at 4-3.

Not really, if you look at there game i think Djokovic has a wider range of shots, i don't see any area where Murray is stronger.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:51:19 PM
Djokovic is the strongest player left in the draw, but it is very close on this surface, mentally Djoker has the edge though, which could tell, if Murray wins in the morning.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 27 January 2011, 05:51:19 PM
Murray's the best player left in the drawand this chance represents a real crossroad in his career. Win this one and there's no reason he cannot relax a little and win a load of slam tournaments in the next 5 or 6 years.

Djokovic is the best player left in the draw.

Can't disagree with that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 27 January 2011, 06:10:20 PM
At least we're assured of one Scotsman in the final with Jockovic already there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Thursday 27 January 2011, 07:29:12 PM
Canny sad how people want Murray to fail just so they can slag him off once again. Piece of p*ss getting to a grand slam semi of course.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:22:40 PM
Even if he reaches the Final and loses it doesn't mean he's bottled it. He'll be playing a player who's been in better form the last 12 months so he's going to have to play his very best with perhaps Djokovic having an off day just to stand a chance.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:41:41 PM
Canny sad how people want Murray to fail just so they can slag him off once again. Piece of p*ss getting to a grand slam semi of course.

It'll be 3 GS finals if he wins tonight, The people's champ Henman failed to manage one.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 27 January 2011, 09:47:57 PM
Even if he reaches the Final and loses it doesn't mean he's bottled it. He'll be playing a player who's been in better form the last 12 months so he's going to have to play his very best with perhaps Djokovic having an off day just to stand a chance.

:lol:
He isn't playing Nadal, he's playing Novak Djokovic, man. He doesn't have to play his best tennis to beat him. Nor does Novak need to experience an off day for it to be competitive, as Murray's beaten him on the last 3 occasions they've met without dropping a set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 27 January 2011, 10:11:23 PM
He's got to beat Ferrer yet....
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:16:57 PM
Even if he reaches the Final and loses it doesn't mean he's bottled it. He'll be playing a player who's been in better form the last 12 months so he's going to have to play his very best with perhaps Djokovic having an off day just to stand a chance.

:lol:
He isn't playing Nadal, he's playing Novak Djokovic, man. He doesn't have to play his best tennis to beat him. Nor does Novak need to experience an off day for it to be competitive, as Murray's beaten him on the last 3 occasions they've met without dropping a set.

Murray's going to have to produce his best performance since Wimbledon to beat him. Djokovic has been much better over the last 12 months. I think Murray will win, but all I was saying was that if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's bottled it like some people are making out. He's still playing the 3rd best player in the world. (if he wins tonight of course)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 27 January 2011, 11:55:02 PM
I'm cheering for the Brit anyhow...doesn't he have some Geordie lineage?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:24:36 AM
Think so, also seemed as shocked as us when Hughton was sacked. :lol:

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Friday 28 January 2011, 03:11:21 AM
Even if he reaches the Final and loses it doesn't mean he's bottled it. He'll be playing a player who's been in better form the last 12 months so he's going to have to play his very best with perhaps Djokovic having an off day just to stand a chance.

:lol:
He isn't playing Nadal, he's playing Novak Djokovic, man. He doesn't have to play his best tennis to beat him. Nor does Novak need to experience an off day for it to be competitive, as Murray's beaten him on the last 3 occasions they've met without dropping a set.

Murray's going to have to produce his best performance since Wimbledon to beat him. Djokovic has been much better over the last 12 months. I think Murray will win, but all I was saying was that if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's bottled it like some people are making out. He's still playing the 3rd best player in the world. (if he wins tonight of course)

I haven't seen Murray play a better match than he did in the US Open against Nadal in the semis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 07:15:48 AM
Ferrer shouldn't be written off. Murray will typically offer him the opportunity to step up and dictate play and if he gets his tactics right and keeps Murray a few feet behind the baseline then he's in with a good chance of winning. This will require a more attacking style of play than Ferrer is typically associated with and he'd need to be looking towards hitting long into the baseline a lot which would require consistency.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:08:33 AM
Pretty even start so far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:09:51 AM
And just as I say that, Murray gets the first break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:15:12 AM
Superb from Ferrer, back to 4-4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:20:07 AM
2 more BPs gone for Murray, poor.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:26:08 AM
What a point that was.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Cracking point that. Might have just saved the set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:28:49 AM
1st set to Ferrer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:28:50 AM
Maybe not. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:30:45 AM
Murray is the most pathetic human on the planet, put him under pressure, no first serves, no winners. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:32:01 AM
Give over man. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:33:45 AM
Not a shock. Ferrer has set out to do exactly as I thought he would. Pin Murray to the baseline where he can't do any damage and keep him there. Typically Ferrer isn't looking to hit a ton of winners from the back of the court himself and will just keep running the ball down until Murray inevitably hits short.

First serve thus far has been a massive let down for Murray. If he starts landing it in then he'll benefit tremendously from not having to expend energy playing long rallies with Ferrer. It will also allow him to step into the court as opposed to slugging with Ferrer.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:35:58 AM
Give over man. :lol: :lol:

It's true, he struggles badly with his serving under pressure, and he plays a fully defensive game, it's just pathetic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:38:04 AM
Murray breaks.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:38:13 AM
Most pathetic man on the planet pulls back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:38:15 AM
Murray breaks in 1st game of 2nd set.  :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:38:18 AM
Some brilliant tennis here by the way.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:39:44 AM
And that ladies and gents is what you call bottling it!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:40:33 AM
And that ladies and gents is what you call bottling it!

:kinnear:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:40:49 AM
And that ladies and gents is what you call bottling it!

...or poor shot selection.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:40:58 AM
Most pathetic man on the planet pulls back.

0-40 very next game. :undecided:

Unbelievably poor.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:43:26 AM
Ferrer wastes two break points one left.................
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:43:34 AM
Break back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:43:37 AM
1-1 now.  Murray struggling badly on his serve.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Murray's left his first serve in the locker room. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:45:27 AM
Both struggling on serve.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Murray's serve returns.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:52:49 AM
It's actually really patchy from both players. Ferrer making less errors and serving better but he's not producing spectacular tennis of any sort. Every time the game threatens to take off it falls flat again with another series of unforced errors. Hopefully it'll pick up a little.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:54:29 AM
It's actually really patchy from both players. Ferrer making less errors and serving better but he's not producing spectacular tennis of any sort. Every time the game threatens to take off it falls flat again with another series of unforced errors. Hopefully it'll pick up a little.

That's why I think Murray will still win this. Ferrer's consistency will no doubt drop.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:56:39 AM
25 errors from Murray in 15 games. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:57:48 AM
Ferrer must do some miles in his games.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 09:58:13 AM
The longer Murray stays on the baseline the more problems he is going to cause himself though. Ferrer is miles behind the baseline himself and that's what is giving him the time to dart back and forward and keep returning the ball. If Murray reduces the distance between the two players he won't have the extra time to read the flight of the ball and cover the ground so easily.

But you are right. I'd expect Ferrer to suffer a patch eventually where he stops landing the ball in the court. The question will be how he reacts when it does happen. If he starts trying to fire winners he may start producing more and more errors. But I think he'll stick to what's working for him right now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:02:23 AM
3 more break points saved by Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:04:26 AM
Murray's serve starting to get better.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:05:08 AM
Finally getting some first serves in, but his ground strokes are becoming worse and worse.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:08:16 AM
Needs to buck his ideas up mind. The fact Ferrer hasn't fully taken advantage though gives some hope.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:09:01 AM
Murray moving in more, chance here....
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:09:03 AM
Murray gradually getting better, all of the games this set have been soo tight though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:09:59 AM
Well played Ferrer again.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:15:35 AM
Better from Murray, now needs to take a break point here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:17:54 AM
 :lol: Murray punching himself in the head. He needs to calm down.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:18:18 AM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:18:31 AM
Murray just imploded there, could be a tie-break this set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:24:25 AM
Clutch.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:28:22 AM
Mini chance here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:29:00 AM
Blown it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:29:47 AM
Blown it.

Yeah he has....... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:30:07 AM
Or not, canny from Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:31:58 AM
Despite the change in momentum in the last game I've never seen Murray play so poorly. The forehand when he steps into the court has been horrible. The first serve has been dreadful and even the backhand seems to be flying into the net.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Despite the change in momentum in the last game I've never seen Murray play so poorly. The forehand when he steps into the court has been horrible. The first serve has been dreadful and even the backhand seems to be flying into the net.

= bottling it. :sadnod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:34:57 AM
Pretty much. It's almost like he's trying to play too safe.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:35:03 AM
Break point Ferrer, huge point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:35:19 AM
Wow by Ferrer, 2 awesome points there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:36:25 AM
Tie-break now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:36:33 AM
Andy Murray serving. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:37:02 AM
Mistake on the break point was that he refused to come into the net again when given the opportunity to attack. Ferrer will lap that up constantly.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:37:22 AM
Definitely bottling it, his unforced errors prove he is. Pressure gets to him and he can't handle it and that to me is bottling it. And don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win a major, just don't think he ever will.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:37:44 AM
Murray with mini-break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:38:29 AM
3-0 in the tiebreak, must, must win.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:39:36 AM
4-0.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:39:56 AM
5-0, looks like it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:40:03 AM
5-0. Surely? :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:40:26 AM
5-0. Surely? :lol:

6-0, yes. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:40:46 AM
Mentally, this could be pivotal. Ferrer has been the one to bottle it here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:41:00 AM
Absolutely blown him away in this tie-break. Maybe it's the massive kick up the arse he needs.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:41:20 AM
6 Set Points :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:42:31 AM
Level.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:42:55 AM
Phewww, great tie break though by Murray.  Shot in the arm that he needs.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:43:39 AM
Too defensive on the big points and he's still making errors, 34 of them in 2 sets is completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:44:34 AM
Too defensive on the big points and he's still making errors, 34 of them in 2 sets is completely unacceptable.

Unacceptable, but now level.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:48:20 AM
Too defensive on the big points and he's still making errors, 34 of them in 2 sets is completely unacceptable.

Unacceptable, but now level.

Nowhere near comfortable, and he needs to up his game, struggling again on serve here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:49:59 AM
Big hold though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:52:15 AM
Definitely bottling it, his unforced errors prove he is. Pressure gets to him and he can't handle it and that to me is bottling it. And don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win a major, just don't think he ever will.

Bit harsh to be saying that, still early in his career and got a lot of Majors to play and progress in before you can start saying he's too much of a bottler and will never win one.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:54:06 AM
Definitely bottling it, his unforced errors prove he is. Pressure gets to him and he can't handle it and that to me is bottling it. And don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win a major, just don't think he ever will.

Bit harsh to be saying that, still early in his career and got a lot of Majors to play and progress in before you can start saying he's too much of a bottler and will never win one.

He's 24 this year, this is possibly the middle of his career right here, at best.

Double fault then an ace, dear me Andy. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:55:22 AM
Commentators over here saying he might have a thigh strain.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:58:04 AM
Commentators over here saying he might have a thigh strain.

If he has then Ferrer is a very lucky man. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 10:59:38 AM
Murray hanging on in there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:02:33 AM
Much better from Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:04:10 AM
Break to love, a slight increase in quality and he takes him apart there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: catmag on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:06:37 AM
He's definitely stepping it up like.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:07:41 AM
He finally consolidates a break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:13:36 AM
What a shot!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: catmag on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:14:04 AM
Whooo! Double break in spectacular fashion :D
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:18:00 AM
Definitely bottling it, his unforced errors prove he is. Pressure gets to him and he can't handle it and that to me is bottling it. And don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win a major, just don't think he ever will.

Bit harsh to be saying that, still early in his career and got a lot of Majors to play and progress in before you can start saying he's too much of a bottler and will never win one.

He's 24 this year, this is possibly the middle of his career right here, at best.

Double fault then an ace, dear me Andy. :lol:

24, still another 6 years at least bar any serious injury. Are you supporting Murray or Ferrer here? Confused with the Spanish flag.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:21:57 AM
Definitely bottling it, his unforced errors prove he is. Pressure gets to him and he can't handle it and that to me is bottling it. And don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win a major, just don't think he ever will.

Bit harsh to be saying that, still early in his career and got a lot of Majors to play and progress in before you can start saying he's too much of a bottler and will never win one.

He's 24 this year, this is possibly the middle of his career right here, at best.

Double fault then an ace, dear me Andy. :lol:

24, still another 6 years at least bar any serious injury. Are you supporting Murray or Ferrer here? Confused with the Spanish flag.

Doubt he has 6 years left with his body, certainly not at his peak, Federer's only 29 and the way he plays and the way his fitness has been for about 6/7 years, no one could last any longer at that level.

:lol: I'm supporting Murray because I have money on him, I will be supporting Djokovic in the final though, against either of these.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:27:35 AM
What a bloody shot.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:28:19 AM
Break to love. Murray is storming now.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:29:08 AM
This is why it should have been so easy for him, Ferrer has dropped a little but Murray has cut out the errors and found his serve and he's dominating because of it.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:33:08 AM
This is why it should have been so easy for him, Ferrer has dropped a little but Murray has cut out the errors and found his serve and he's dominating because of it.

Absolutely. I think there was no doubt that if Murray played well, he'd win this, and now as you say he's cutting out the silly unforced errors he's doing what he should be doing - in some ways, this looks like being very rewarding. He's had to show some resolve here.

Murray's on a different level now to Ferrer. *kiss of death*
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:37:42 AM
This is why it should have been so easy for him, Ferrer has dropped a little but Murray has cut out the errors and found his serve and he's dominating because of it.

Absolutely. I think there was no doubt that if Murray played well, he'd win this, and now as you say he's cutting out the silly unforced errors he's doing what he should be doing - in some ways, this looks like being very rewarding. He's had to show some resolve here.

Murray's on a different level now to Ferrer. *kiss of death*

Aye, you're right like, still the occasional poor error that Djokovic will punish mind, can't afford to get away poorly in the final.

Definitely on a different level, he's won this with ease...
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:40:31 AM
I say that, 0-30. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:46:05 AM
3-2 Ferrer, f***'s sake. :lol:
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Post by: alpal78 on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:46:33 AM
is Murray injured like?
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Post by: Adam^ on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:46:57 AM
Why is Murrary swearing, I'm watching at uni and I've got no sound!
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:48:03 AM
Don't think he's injured like, but don't think he's at 100% either.

Adam: think he's just p*ssed off he's let slip a 2-0 lead and was looking like coasting to the final. :lol:
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Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:48:17 AM
This is why it should have been so easy for him, Ferrer has dropped a little but Murray has cut out the errors and found his serve and he's dominating because of it.

Absolutely. I think there was no doubt that if Murray played well, he'd win this, and now as you say he's cutting out the silly unforced errors he's doing what he should be doing - in some ways, this looks like being very rewarding. He's had to show some resolve here.

Murray's on a different level now to Ferrer. *kiss of death*
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Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:48:24 AM
is Murray injured like?

I'm not too sure. Suddenly he looks short on fitness which is a little irregular for Murray.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:49:52 AM
Ferrer suddenly looks the better player. :lol:
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Murray started playing well when I went into a meeting, now back at Desk and Ferrer starts playing well.
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Post by: Oakie Doke on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:51:46 AM
great shot Murray, 3-3.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:51:48 AM
What a shot!
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:58:39 AM
Come on Andy, Joke's over, you can win this now...
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Post by: alpal78 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:08:18 PM
If he plays like this, no way he can beat Djokovic. Some brilliant shots but too many silly mistakes
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Post by: Colocho on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:11:39 PM
Will need to step up his game big time in the final.
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Post by: Magpie on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:12:03 PM
Cracking backhand spin shot!!!
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:12:51 PM
Cracking backhand spin shot!!!

Absolutely incredible that one.

Deuce here, come on, break him.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:14:51 PM
Ouch, can't believe he missed that.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:14:51 PM
So many times he's wasting well crafted opportunities.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:16:17 PM
Murray to get broken here? He's so vulnerable in situations like this.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:17:36 PM
I fancy Ferrer if it goes to a 5th - which means Murray will win in 5.

Lovely spin there like.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Tie break.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:20:40 PM
Big tiebreak, Ferrer to win it for me...
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Post by: alpal78 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:21:10 PM
I fancy Ferrer if it goes to a 5th - which means Murray will win in 5.

Lovely spin there like.

Nah if it goes to the 5th set, Murray will bottle it for sure
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:22:18 PM
Mini break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:22:47 PM
Again, everyone quick to jump on Murray's back as usual and it's pathetic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:23:57 PM
Again, everyone quick to jump on Murray's back as usual and it's pathetic.
:undecided:

He deserves it for this man, so inconsistent.

So close to 3-0 there. :(
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:25:40 PM
Another break each way, 3-1.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:26:14 PM
4-1, two mini breaks.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:26:20 PM
Here we go.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:26:41 PM
Murray needs to win this first point on serve...

ACE!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:26:53 PM
5-1
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:27:17 PM
Again, everyone quick to jump on Murray's back as usual and it's pathetic.

I know, soon as things go bad everyone points at his weaknesses, when things are going smoothly everyone goes on how brilliant he is and right up with the best in the world.

I can see the jokes happening already....
What's the diffrence between Andy Murray and a Pornstar?

A pornstar wouldn't choke on a semi!
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Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:27:54 PM
Let's be honest a lot are on the other end of the scale, you can't say a bad word about 'Muzza' or you automatically hate him/don't know what you're talking about.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:27:57 PM
Again, everyone quick to jump on Murray's back as usual and it's pathetic.

I know, soon as things go bad everyone points at his weaknesses, when things are going smoothly everyone goes on how brilliant he is and right up with the best in the world.

I can see the jokes happening already....
What's the diffrence between Andy Murray and a Pornstar?

A pornstar wouldn't choke on a semi!
:boomboom:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:11 PM
5 match points!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:19 PM
5 Match Points.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:35 PM
Again, everyone quick to jump on Murray's back as usual and it's pathetic.

I know, soon as things go bad everyone points at his weaknesses, when things are going smoothly everyone goes on how brilliant he is and right up with the best in the world.

I can see the jokes happening already....
What's the diffrence between Andy Murray and a Pornstar?

A pornstar wouldn't choke on a semi!

:lol:

I don't think anyone's been overly critical of him, he's been so inconsistent today and if he plays like this against Djokovic he doesn't stand a chance.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:40 PM
4 Match Points!
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:57 PM
And that's a wrap.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:28:58 PM
GSM, comfortable. :undecided:
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:29:00 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:29:40 PM
Fact is, Murray has been poor and still has won, shows he can dig out results.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:30:56 PM
Fact is, Murray has been poor and still has won, shows he can dig out results.

Against David Ferrer, who is very solid, but he doesn't have the game to get to grand slam finals.
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Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:31:15 PM
Fact is, Murray has been poor and still has won, shows he can dig out results.

Exactly, obviously needs to up his game against Djokovic but their isn't a huge amount between them on their day. Should be an exciting final.
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Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:32:01 PM
Fact is, Murray has been poor and still has won, shows he can dig out results.

Against David Ferrer, who is very solid, but he doesn't have the game to get to grand slam finals.

Can't say things like that, you'll be taken to the gallows.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:32:33 PM
Very rarely does a player get to a GS Final playing their best tennis throughout the tournament.  He'll be the 1st person to know he'll need to be at his best v Novak.

Should be a great match though.
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Post by: Loven11 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:33:16 PM
Really hope he wins the final.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:33:36 PM
Murray is the most pathetic human on the planet, put him under pressure, no first serves, no winners. :lol:

Don't you look ridiculous.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:33:41 PM
Very rarely does a player get to a GS Final playing their best tennis throughout the tournament.  He'll be the 1st person to know he'll need to be at his best v Novak.

Should be a great match though.

Yes, but he has had a very easy route, he's avoided Soderling and Nadal, amazingly.
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Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:33:58 PM
Should be an interesting match, Djokovic probably just shades it in terms of ability but there's no reason Murray can't win.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:34:24 PM
Murray is the most pathetic human on the planet, put him under pressure, no first serves, no winners. :lol:

Don't you look ridiculous.

Not really, he was playing David Ferrer. Not sure if you watched the first 2 sets. :lol:

He's pathetic mentally, and today hasn't changed a thing there.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:34:38 PM
Mission accomplished, he's got himself to another GS final and he knows more than anyone that if he doesn't bring his A-game to the final, he'll get beat. He made a bucketload of unforceds today and those will get punished on Sunday. I'd rate Djokovic as slight favourite but if Murray can cut out some of the fairly basic errors, he's got every chance.
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Post by: Dave on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:36:26 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:37:30 PM
Murray is the most pathetic human on the planet, put him under pressure, no first serves, no winners. :lol:

Don't you look ridiculous.

Not really, he was playing David Ferrer. Not sure if you watched the first 2 sets. :lol:

He's pathetic mentally, and today hasn't changed a thing there.

Your criticism is ridiculous of him.  Clearly you have an Agenda against him.  The fact is he's made his 2nd Aussie Open Final in a row, so he can't be that bad of a tennis player.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:37:33 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

An injured Nadal, it's fairly irrelevant.
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Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:37:53 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

But he was injured apparently.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:37:55 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:39:26 PM
Murray is the most pathetic human on the planet, put him under pressure, no first serves, no winners. :lol:

Don't you look ridiculous.

Not really, he was playing David Ferrer. Not sure if you watched the first 2 sets. :lol:

He's pathetic mentally, and today hasn't changed a thing there.

Your criticism is ridiculous of him.  Clearly you have an Agenda against him.  The fact is he's made his 2nd Aussie Open Final in a row.  So he can't be that bad of a tennis player.

It's not at all, I've never said he was a bad tennis player.

There aren't many better players in the world, 3, if that.

There are many better players in the big points in the big games though, he flatters to deceive time and time again.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:40:17 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.
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Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:43:54 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.

You can only beat what is put in front of you and if the other ranking players around him failed to do that, then that is their problem not Murray's. If the A game comes out against Novak, then we could be in for a cracking final in which i hope Murray comes out on top. Might  even put a little wager on him if the price isn't too bad.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:46:11 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.

You can only beat what is put in front of you and if the other ranking players around him failed to do that, then that is their problem not Murray's. If the A game comes out against Novak, then we could be in for a cracking final in which i hope Murray comes out on top. Might  even put a little wager on him if the price isn't too bad.

Yes, I'm not saying he's a bad player and I'm not saying he'll never win a grand slam, but he needs to improve mentally to have a chance, and it's always been a problem with him, he can do it though, not saying he can't at all.

Djoker 1.77
Murray 2.28
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:46:23 PM
Sunday will be a huge test of his mentallity, the press are going to go into absolute overdrive over the next day or two and he'll know it.
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Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:48:32 PM
Come on Djokovic.
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Post by: BrettNUFC on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:48:36 PM
Can never work with the decimal odds haha just checked my william hill account and he's evns! Worth a purpley on it.
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Post by: Tisd09 on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:51:04 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.
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Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:52:54 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

 :thup:

For as long as he hasn't got a GS behind him, IMO, he'll continue to have moments where he doubts himself; and no player can realise their potential if they doubt the way they play. He has to have full belief in himself.
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Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:54:26 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

 :thup:

Agreed, however if he fails to win it then it really looks as though he will be another nearly man.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 12:55:23 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

 :thup:

Agreed, however if he fails to win it then it really looks as though he will be another nearly man.

If he doesn't, it'll point to that, yes. But it would still be naive to write him off like.
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Post by: Tisd09 on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:00:10 PM
I think most people can see he is not the same type of nearly man as Henman, there is real talent with Murray not that Henman wasn't talented. Murray has been consistent in the ATP Masters events didn't Henman only win 1? I know nobody is comparing the two but when I think of nearly men I think of Henman.

I still think that Murray will win a major even if its not this one, but I would say this is his biggest chance by far, Djokovic is not much more experienced than Murray but he does have that slam under his belt, it should be a cracker of a game.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:04:58 PM
I think most people can see he is not the same type of nearly man as Henman, there is real talent with Murray not that Henman wasn't talented. Murray has been consistent in the ATP Masters events didn't Henman only win 1? I know nobody is comparing the two but when I think of nearly men I think of Henman.

I still think that Murray will win a major even if its not this one, but I would say this is his biggest chance by far, Djokovic is not much more experienced than Murray but he does have that slam under his belt, it should be a cracker of a game.


Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was a complete bottler, he was never going to win a major, I think most accepted that early, he would have had to get lucky.

Murray is one of the best players in the world, he'll find it harder than the other top players to win a major (NB: Look who I'm comparing him to), but he certainly has the talent, he's got experience of finals but he's not been close to a winning position yet, Sunday should be different, we'll know much more after that.
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Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:05:42 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

More like Roddick was just too good for him, best he's played in years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:05:55 PM
Wonder if the match today has took too much out of him, Djokovic will be fresh in comparison.
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Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:07:09 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

More like Roddick was just too good for him, best he's played in years.

Murray was appalling that day. His serve went to hell in the last 2 sets.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:08:02 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

More like Roddick was just too good for him, best he's played in years.

Murray was appalling that day. His serve went to hell in the last 2 sets.

He was, he was much better v Nadal last year, but lost it on the big points...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:08:10 PM
Wonder if the match today has took too much out of him, Djokovic will be fresh in comparison.

5th set and I would have made Djok a fairly clear favourite. Still a heavy match but there'll be a huge feeling of relief of getting it done in 4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:08:14 PM
Wonder if the match today has took too much out of him, Djokovic will be fresh in comparison.

 :lol:

He'll be fine man.
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Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:09:56 PM
Wonder if the match today has took too much out of him, Djokovic will be fresh in comparison.

 :lol:

He'll be fine man.

Depends upon his injury (thigh?), normally it would be fine with a day's rest though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:21:43 PM
Will Djokovic have bottled it if Murray wins btw?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:23:12 PM
Will Djokovic have bottled it if Murray wins btw?

Depends entirely on the circumstances, as it would do if Djokovic wins. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:25:04 PM
Will Djokovic have bottled it if Murray wins btw?

Depends entirely on the circumstances, as it would do if Djokovic wins. :undecided:

 :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:25:12 PM
Will Djokovic have bottled it if Murray wins btw?

Yes, but since he already has a GS title behind him, it would be to a lesser extent I'd argue. I'd say there's more pressure on Murray here - things have opened up for him in perfect fashion, he got the easiest route to the final he could have hoped for and Murray not winning it would be more of an opportunity lost than if Djokovic lost IMO.

Edit: and aye, as Ali says, obviously how the match itself unfolds will be a determinant in whether he bottles it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:34:11 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.

To be honest I'd have taken Ferrer's route looking back. Neimenen, Russell, Berankis, Raonic and a crocked Nadal.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:47:06 PM
Will Djokovic have bottled it if Murray wins btw?

Depends on how the match goes surely?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 01:50:14 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.

To be honest I'd have taken Ferrer's route looking back. Neimenen, Russell, Berankis, Raonic and a crocked Nadal.

Ferrer isn't a top player with a good chance of winning the tournament though. :undecided:

Murray was supposed to face Soderling and then Nadal which would have been a big test for him, not his fault that he hasn't faced them obviously, but it still means he's had an easier route.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Friday 28 January 2011, 02:52:12 PM
Every player who's lost so far in the competition has bottled it, because they lost.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 02:53:42 PM
Every player who's lost so far in the competition has bottled it, because they lost.

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Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tisd09 on Friday 28 January 2011, 02:59:20 PM
Murray is so frustrating to watch he is so good at times, I seem to remember the his semi final against Nadal in New York where he was immense and then remember the semi against Roddick at Wimbledon when he was p*ss poor. I was really worried after the 1st set but fair play he turned it around. He has proven he can beat anybody on his day and I believe this Australian open can be the 1st of many major wins, I don't think he'll dominate like Nadal and Federer but he win the odd one here and there in my opinion. Winning his 1st will lift a massive weight off his shoulders and maybe after that can play a more carefree game knowing he has a major win behind him.

More like Roddick was just too good for him, best he's played in years.

Roddick played well and was in good form but Murray was poor that night. I remember that semi well given I had tickets for the final that year and was hoping to see Murray, he was very passive in that match, but Roddick certainley played well aswell!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 03:56:41 PM
That would be the same Ferrer who was playing well enough to beat Nadal in the last round. Aye, well rubbish.

In fairness, Nadal was hampered by his injury it seemed. Ferrer is a good player, works tremendously hard but isn't a top player IMO. Still, some slightly harsh criticism of him on here - he made errors today and those will get punished by Djok but at the end of the day, he came through in 4. That's a result in my book.

Yes, he got the job done, but the easiest route to the final he could have wished for, and 63 unforced errors is not good enough.

To be honest I'd have taken Ferrer's route looking back. Neimenen, Russell, Berankis, Raonic and a crocked Nadal.

Ferrer isn't a top player with a good chance of winning the tournament though. :undecided:

Murray was supposed to face Soderling and then Nadal which would have been a big test for him, not his fault that he hasn't faced them obviously, but it still means he's had an easier route.

I can't argue that point. Ferrer has never been a top top player but he's always been a dangerous player who has a very solid game. He isn't very dynamic though and if what he's doing isn't working then he doesn't have much else to offer. Fortunately his defensive approach from the baseline is at a high enough level that majority of players struggle to play against him because they aren't consistent enough to break him down. In a way it's sort of similar to where Murray was a few years ago but Murray has gone on to add a bit more to his game.

When I saw the draw I was certainly concerned that Murray would have a tough time reaching the final again. I would favour him against Soderling but obviously Nadal would be a huge hurdle for him to overcome. What intrigued me more was that he seemed to land in a quarter of the draw with a lot of other dangerous players. The likes of Del Potro, Melzer, Gulbis (http://fhoneill.wordpress.com/2011/01/18/the-problems-of-being-ernests/ - read my thoughts on him here) and Tsonga could have all caused him massive problems. So in effect he's had an easier than expected path through the draw he was given although I think Dolgopolov was a tough match as he's very much an unknown quantity and plays a rather unorthodox style of tennis.

I think it's hard to be too critical of his route through though as Dolgopolov earned his spot in the fourth round by beating Soderling. He was obviously fortunate that he didn't have to play Nadal due to Rafa's injury but that's tennis. I just feel that Ferrer has had even more fortune than Murray. He benefited massively from Nalbandian playing Hewitt in the first round. Nalbandian didn't have the gas to beat Berankis (who you can also read about on my blog) and then Ferrer wiped the floor with him and was fortunate enough to face the injured Rafa.

At the end of the day thought it's all tennis and you have to beat whoever is in front of you whether they've played their way into that position or gotten the luck of the draw and injuries.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:11:00 PM
 :thup:

In the end it is two top players in the final and that's what really matters, should be a good one.

Just got an email from 888bet, if you place a bet between £5 and £50 on either Murray or Djokovic, and it either goes to 5 sets or there's at least 3 tiebreaks, and your bet loses, you get your full stake back, pretty generous for a final which should be tight...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:16:31 PM
I've already got/had a couple of bets on. I've got singles of Murray and Clijsters still to be seen out. Already lost on Federer and Zvonareva. The 14/1 on Zvonareva alone was too much not to have a go given that she was a certainty to get to the semis at the very least.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:25:26 PM
Good luck with those, I'm not a fan of women's tennis but I imagine Clijsters will win in straight sets, and I've backed Djokovic. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:35:56 PM
She had signs of a hamstring strain the other night when I was watching and I'm now incredibly wary as Na Li beat her the other week in the final over in Sydney. You are probably right to back Djokovic but I'm never keen on putting any money on him since he's another one that can go off the boil on the big occasions. What has been putting me off is that despite having a good year and finishing third in the rankings he didn't haul in any of the Slams or Masters 1000 trophies last season. It's a little unusual to have a good season and not take at least one Masters event.

It's hardly an important point but I always feel the top 4/5 guys should at least pick up one of those trophies with an outside bet or a player having a good season stealing one from time to time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:42:28 PM
Every player who's lost so far in the competition has bottled it, because they lost.

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Not :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 28 January 2011, 04:47:08 PM
She had signs of a hamstring strain the other night when I was watching and I'm now incredibly wary as Na Li beat her the other week in the final over in Sydney. You are probably right to back Djokovic but I'm never keen on putting any money on him since he's another one that can go off the boil on the big occasions. What has been putting me off is that despite having a good year and finishing third in the rankings he didn't haul in any of the Slams or Masters 1000 trophies last season. It's a little unusual to have a good season and not take at least one Masters event.

It's hardly an important point but I always feel the top 4/5 guys should at least pick up one of those trophies with an outside bet or a player having a good season stealing one from time to time.
He's a strange one alright, just a bit of an oddball all around really. Got to remember that the first half of last year he was in the worst form of his life, and he's just been back improving and improving and now looks like he's in the best form of his life...

Every player who's lost so far in the competition has bottled it, because they lost.
Not :lol:
Thank f*** for that. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 28 January 2011, 06:24:56 PM
She had signs of a hamstring strain the other night when I was watching and I'm now incredibly wary as Na Li beat her the other week in the final over in Sydney. You are probably right to back Djokovic but I'm never keen on putting any money on him since he's another one that can go off the boil on the big occasions. What has been putting me off is that despite having a good year and finishing third in the rankings he didn't haul in any of the Slams or Masters 1000 trophies last season. It's a little unusual to have a good season and not take at least one Masters event.

It's hardly an important point but I always feel the top 4/5 guys should at least pick up one of those trophies with an outside bet or a player having a good season stealing one from time to time.
He's a strange one alright, just a bit of an oddball all around really. Got to remember that the first half of last year he was in the worst form of his life, and he's just been back improving and improving and now looks like he's in the best form of his life...

I feel much the same can be said about Murray. He took months to recover from the loss to Federer which resulted in horrible tournaments at Indian Wells and Miami. He's not a big name when it comes to playing on clay but a first round exit in Monte Carlo was just unacceptable. He did start to pick up once the clay court season was over and since he's been on the hard court surface again has looked good. He had the one blip at the US Open against Wawrinka but I think he's learned from that as Shanghai and the performances at the Tour Finals were good.

Neither man has had the sort of straight forward progression that I've seen from Soderling though. Both Djokovic and Murray seem to leap forward in bounds and then seem to level off for a bit before upping their game again. Soderling seems to have gotten better in smaller but more consistent steps.

The next few years should be fairly exciting though as more guys are going to be competitive at the top end of the game. Del Potro could return assuming he has no more major injury troubles. Berdych made significant steps last year and with a little refinement could push himself on. There are a lot of young guys out there that are going to develop as well. Dolgopolov is the obvious one that stood out in Melbourne but needs a better coach. Then there are the likes of Gulbis, Berankis, Raonic and Tomic who will all be looking to climb the ladder as they develop.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 28 January 2011, 11:48:07 PM
http://yfrog.com/0bws5z
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Saturday 29 January 2011, 12:16:12 AM
You know I really do like Murray as person as well as a tennis player, bet he'd be a laugh to have a drink with. And I know a lot of people think he's this dire Scottish bellend but I think that's just the front. Really hope he wins Sunday morning.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 29 January 2011, 12:19:32 AM
You know I really do like Murray as person as well as a tennis player, bet he'd be a laugh to have a drink with. And I know a lot of people think he's this dire Scottish bellend but I think that's just the front. Really hope he wins Sunday morning.

Should never judge a person on the way they act when they are playing sport, i get into f***ing bad mood's easily when playing any sport which is opposite my personality.

I like Murray as well, people complain about his attitude and character but at least he has some unlike boring boring Tim Henman.  Also he's our most successful tennis player since the 1930's ffs, why can't people get behind our sporting stars.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Saturday 29 January 2011, 12:43:54 AM
He's got quite a sense of humour, that episode of QoS with Jamie was funny as owt!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Saturday 29 January 2011, 12:56:45 AM
Absolutely buzzing about this final, reckon it could be a great game if they both get going. Really hope murray wins, he's got it in him but it'll be a very close game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Oakie Doke on Saturday 29 January 2011, 01:00:07 AM
I can remember him coming across as a very affable chap on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross. He gets a bad rep but you can tell in interviews he's actually a good guy.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mowen on Saturday 29 January 2011, 01:09:05 AM
I actually quite like Murray. He's a grumpy f***er half the time but I respect that, so am I.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Sunday 30 January 2011, 08:41:50 AM
Anyone up?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 08:47:12 AM
Me. Go Murray  :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 08:50:52 AM
Can imagine a lot of rallies in this match, too fairly defensive players, both will be hoping for unforced errors from their opponent. First serves could be a key point in both players game. Cmon Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 08:52:38 AM
Djokovic has started much better than Murray, worrying signs.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 08:54:58 AM
:lol: Love that, Murray challenges a first serve called out, then in the replayed point he hits a perfect ace.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:00:38 AM
Good start.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:03:06 AM
Murray getting into it now, but Djokovic probably should have broken last game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:06:13 AM
Made hard work for himself in his first service game. Going to need to get cheaper points than that throughout the game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:09:09 AM
Encouraging that Djokovic had to resort to a couple of Murray-style drop-shots in that game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:12:24 AM
Superb shot.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:21:14 AM
Djokovic seems to be the one making the mistakes so far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:21:19 AM
Murray has to attack his backhand, its looking much weaker than his forehand
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:24:09 AM
Murray's serve is much better than Friday.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:30:44 AM
Very even this now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:40:01 AM
Incredible Tennis this by both players.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:40:10 AM
Superb Djokovic there. Set points
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:40:35 AM
Awesome point.

That's the modern-day tennis game. That was great to watch but I also lament the fact that it took 40 shots for someone to try to approach the net.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:41:15 AM
Set, Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:41:23 AM
1st Set Novak.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:41:30 AM
One down, but definitely in this one.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:42:12 AM
One down, but definitely in this one.

Yeap, very little between them.

Murray's serve dropped off end of the set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:42:16 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:44:18 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:46:10 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

:lol: I knew I shouldn't have said crumble.

His level dropped, a fair bit in that game.

Am I allowed to criticise Murray if he loses this in straight sets? :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:46:45 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

Knew someone would say he bottled it, absolute dog s***.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:47:35 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

:lol: I knew I shouldn't have said crumble.

His level dropped, a fair bit in that game.

Am I allowed to criticise Murray if he loses this in straight sets? :undecided:

If he is outplayed by Djokovic no. If it's is own doing then yes.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:48:28 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

:lol: I knew I shouldn't have said crumble.

His level dropped, a fair bit in that game.

Am I allowed to criticise Murray if he loses this in straight sets? :undecided:

If he is outplayed by Djokovic no. If it's is own doing then yes.

:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:53:00 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

:lol: I knew I shouldn't have said crumble.

His level dropped, a fair bit in that game.

Am I allowed to criticise Murray if he loses this in straight sets? :undecided:

If he is outplayed by Djokovic no. If it's is own doing then yes.

:lol:

I think it was you that said Djokovic was the better player, so relatively speaking, if they are both playing well then Djokovic will win because he is better than Murray. He could still lose in straight sets by playing his best tennis because Djokovic can outplay him. I admit I didn't phrase my last statement very well though :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:56:11 AM
First big pressure service game (maybe bar his first) and he crumbles, starts off with a double fault...

Murray playing better than he was v Ferrer though.

God you are such a harsh t***.  He didn't crumble, if he had crumbled they would never have been a 38 shot rally as 1 point.

:lol: I knew I shouldn't have said crumble.

His level dropped, a fair bit in that game.

Am I allowed to criticise Murray if he loses this in straight sets? :undecided:

If he is outplayed by Djokovic no. If it's is own doing then yes.

:lol:

I think it was you that said Djokovic was the better player, so relatively speaking, if they are both playing well then Djokovic will win because he is better than Murray. He could still lose in straight sets by playing his best tennis because Djokovic can outplay him. I admit I didn't phrase my last statement very well though :lol:

Aye, I believe Djokovic is the better all round player, but physically they are not so different, they both have very similar talent as it were, but it's the way they approach the game and handle pressure that separates them.

Murray goes into his shell and plays defensively very often on the big points, Djokovic doesn't change his game all that much.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:56:56 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:58:17 AM
Pretty frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:01:35 AM
Aye, looks a lost cause now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:02:00 AM
He has crumbled now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:02:22 AM
Djokovic has bottled it in big matches quite a few times in his career. Maybe only in the past 6-12 months has he shown that he can raise his game in the big points. I think beating Federer after being down match points at the US Open has given Djokovic the belief required to play well on the big points, and he has done so since then.

Double break. That's the set done.

Murray's giving it away now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:02:57 AM
That should be 2-0 to Djoker then.

Pressure off for Murray, we've seen him come back from 2-0 down before, this is obviously different circumstances, but it could see him at his best.

As I type that he smashes a return winner for the first time...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:03:45 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:05:10 AM
Djokovic has bottled it in big matches quite a few times in his career. Maybe only in the past 6-12 months has he shown that he can raise his game in the big points. I think beating Federer after being down match points at the US Open has given Djokovic the belief required to play well on the big points, and he has done so since then.

Double break. That's the set done.

Murray's giving it away now.

Aye, definitely, it is something that Murray can change.

Djokovic will feel comfortable in this position, at the start of the match, and now in command of the Australian Open final, he's been here and done it.

The worry for Murray comes if he loses in straight sets this meekly, 3 grand slam finals and he's not been remotely close in any of them, if he doesn't here...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:06:09 AM
Some incredible tennis by Novak here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:06:49 AM
Anyone watching can see he lost the tactics in the first set. Djokovic can't hit winners on the backhand and is prone to hitting short or long from that side. Murray seemed to be utilising that then suddenly he started playing into the forehand where Djokovic is a lot more dangerous. The second massive frustration I'm seeing is that Murray doesn't kill points off from the midcourt. If the ball lands short he plays a 'safe' return at times where he needs to play a winner. I understand he's desperate to keep the ball in play but in such scenarios the odds of success increase by gambling on hitting a winner as opposed to letting the opponent back into the rally. This is more true here where Djokovic is winning the longer rallies.

In the last few games Murray has netted or over-hit several shots that were neither attacking or defensive shots. At this level that sort of play on a routine shot is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

I don't terribly mind him as a player, I sway, sometimes I do like him but sometimes not. I think what has got me in the past was his constant whining about small things, and constant doing things like holding his leg and the like, he still does it now but less so. I think it gives his opponents encouragement too, you don't see Nadal or Federer do anything like it, and no longer do you see Djokovic do it.

As you say, it's because he cares so much, but I just really don't think it's necessary.

I don't mind his interviews, I actually quite like the, very dry. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:09:31 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:10:56 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

Once or twice a year viewers? :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:13:04 AM
3 Break Points for Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Murray's just not hitting enough winners to scare Djokovic. As soon as they set into a rally, Djokovic knows that he can wait for a nice shot to attack because Murray's not going to attack first. Unless Murray starts taking balls earlier and tries to end the points quicker, Djokovic will continue to dominate the match. Murray's game is the reason that he lost to Federer twice in GS finals before, because when Federer changed gears on the big points, Murray simply remained passive. That might work in other tournaments where you're playing best of 3 sets and the best players use it as warmups for the slams, but it doesn't work in GS finals when players like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic will give everything they've got.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:13:44 AM
3 Break Points for Murray.
Taken
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:14:39 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

The media hype him up so that the British public believe he has a very good chance of winning every time a GS comes around. It's not like we are having much success in any other sports at the moment bar cricket, and he is the only Briton worth following in tennis. He plays better tennis than Henman, he just doesn't come across as 'pleasant'. Criticism that is deserved isn't frowned upon, but when people start mentioning 'crumbling' after losing 6-4 in a close set in a final of a GS that's a different matter.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:16:05 AM
No Grand Slam winner for 73 years, no wonder why there is the media frenzy for him to win one.

As a country utter disgraceful tactic for which the LTA should be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:18:24 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

The media hype him up so that the British public believe he has a very good chance of winning every time a GS comes around. It's not like we are having much success in any other sports at the moment bar cricket, and he is the only Briton worth following in tennis. He plays better tennis than Henman, he just doesn't come across as 'pleasant'. Criticism that is deserved isn't frowned upon, but when people start mentioning 'crumbling' after losing 6-4 in a close set in a final of a GS that's a different matter.

As I said, crumbling was the wrong word, but in his first service game to stay in the set, he got broken to 15. He did the same against Ferrer, and actually got broken twice in a row to lose the first set after being a break up, it's poor, and there is no denying it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

The media hype him up so that the British public believe he has a very good chance of winning every time a GS comes around. It's not like we are having much success in any other sports at the moment bar cricket, and he is the only Briton worth following in tennis. He plays better tennis than Henman, he just doesn't come across as 'pleasant'. Criticism that is deserved isn't frowned upon, but when people start mentioning 'crumbling' after losing 6-4 in a close set in a final of a GS that's a different matter.

Good post :thup:

I actually enjoyed and appreciated Henman's tennis more funnily enough - good style to his game. Thought he was underrated but obviously never the best so subject to lots of stick.

Hope Novak can finish him here :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:19:20 AM
Got to say Novak's defensive play is nothing short of sensational today.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:19:25 AM
Little smirk from Novak going 0-40 down. Suppose he can afford to laugh given the position he is still in.  :shifty:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:19:39 AM
That was a good forehand winner by Murray to win the 15-30 point, but the way he played the point after the lob was very weird. He had a few opportunities to run around the backhand to attack but didn't, then actually ran around the forehand to hit the backhand once. So passive. At least he went for the winner in the end.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:20:51 AM
Incredible shot from Djoker.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:21:01 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

The media hype him up so that the British public believe he has a very good chance of winning every time a GS comes around. It's not like we are having much success in any other sports at the moment bar cricket, and he is the only Briton worth following in tennis. He plays better tennis than Henman, he just doesn't come across as 'pleasant'. Criticism that is deserved isn't frowned upon, but when people start mentioning 'crumbling' after losing 6-4 in a close set in a final of a GS that's a different matter.

Good post :thup:

I actually enjoyed and appreciated Henman's tennis more funnily enough - good style to his game. Thought he was underrated but obviously never the best so subject to lots of stick.

Hope Novak can finish him here :)

Henman underated, nah.  Henman for his talent did exceptionally well to which he reached 6 GS Semi's.  As apart from him volleying his game was very very average.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:21:01 AM
Excellent point!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:21:43 AM
Why is criticising Murray so frowned upon? His competitors are more affable than he is and tend to play better/more attractive tennis IMO.

Fair play for becoming a top level player, but I don't feel obliged to support him because his homeland is geographically closer than Switzerland, Spain or Serbia :lol:

That's not why I like him and I dont think it is for many people with even a vague interest in tennis :lol: I like his style of play, and his determination to get to every ball. He actually shows emotion on court and although he doesn't seem very likeable in interviews, which is what a lot of people seem to judge him on, I don't think he is like that in real life, he just isn't comfortable in front of a camera.

Edit: Not much battling to be seen now though..

You're kidding, right? People in the UK get whipped up into a frenzy at his progress and that he is British is only coincidental? Why not the ever-plucky Lleyton Hewitt then for whom no cause is too lost? ;)

The media hype him up so that the British public believe he has a very good chance of winning every time a GS comes around. It's not like we are having much success in any other sports at the moment bar cricket, and he is the only Briton worth following in tennis. He plays better tennis than Henman, he just doesn't come across as 'pleasant'. Criticism that is deserved isn't frowned upon, but when people start mentioning 'crumbling' after losing 6-4 in a close set in a final of a GS that's a different matter.

Good post :thup:

I actually enjoyed and appreciated Henman's tennis more funnily enough - good style to his game. Thought he was underrated but obviously never the best so subject to lots of stick.

Hope Novak can finish him here :)

But you always had that sense that Henman was going to let you down :lol: At least with Murray there is a glimmer of hope when he is getting into GS finals. I do appreciate that with Murray it's a love/hate thing, I know a lot of people who just don't like him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:22:30 AM
The DTL forehand won Djokovic that point. He was aggressive when defending a deep Murray shot and took charge of the point.

I think Murray needs an early break in the third or he's done.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:23:11 AM
Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was up against Sampras in that regard who was so 'clutch' it's untrue. He lost his big chance in 2001 and that will always dampen what was a very good career.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:23:57 AM
Needs to sort out his first serve although Djokovic looks more sprightly and 'up for this'
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:24:48 AM
Henman would have won Wimbledon minus Sampras and I reckon Murray would have won one of his two finals against anyone but Federer. Think it's harsh to criticise either given they're the 2 best players of the last 20 years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:25:17 AM
Early sign of more attacking approach in that point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:26:30 AM
The quality of tennis hasn't been that good, imo.

A GS final needs Federer or Nadal to be there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:27:18 AM
It's an indictment of the fact we can't produce tennis players in this country despite having very good funding.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:28:18 AM
Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was up against Sampras in that regard who was so 'clutch' it's untrue. He lost his big chance in 2001 and that will always dampen what was a very good career.

I always felt that way. :thup:

Neesy you're on crack man. Intimating he overachieved would be a better argument if he'd reached one GS semi not six. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:30:20 AM
Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was up against Sampras in that regard who was so 'clutch' it's untrue. He lost his big chance in 2001 and that will always dampen what was a very good career.

I always felt that way. :thup:

Neesy you're on crack man. Intimating he overachieved would be a better argument if he'd reached one GS semi not six. :lol:

His talent was limited, so I'm actually praising him for what he did.

4 of those semi's were at wimbledon, when the crowd basically helped to win some his points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:30:30 AM
Wahooo Break for Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:30:37 AM
It's an indictment of the fact we can't produce tennis players in this country despite having very good funding.

I think it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way, it's a big sport in this country but maybe not big enough, we need that one player to come through and win a few big ones to really get something going in this country, maybe Murray could be the player, but there has been already been a few good Swiss players coming partially because of Federer...

Murray breaks, 2 horrible errors from Djoker, as I said, this is when Murray is most dangerous. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:30:52 AM
Nice pass.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:31:23 AM
His ma looks like a right stern woman.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:31:45 AM
Djokovic bottling it? ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:31:58 AM
Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was up against Sampras in that regard who was so 'clutch' it's untrue. He lost his big chance in 2001 and that will always dampen what was a very good career.

I always felt that way. :thup:

Neesy you're on crack man. Intimating he overachieved would be a better argument if he'd reached one GS semi not six. :lol:

His talent was limited, so I'm actually praising him for what he did.

4 of those semi's were at wimbledon, when the crowd basically helped to win some his points.

What did they do, hold the other play down?! :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:31:59 AM
Why not earlier Andy, why  :-[
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:33:16 AM
Djokovic bottling it? ;)

Certainly 2 poor points, but it was out the ordinary, if it happens again then maybe. ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:33:37 AM
It's an indictment of the fact we can't produce tennis players in this country despite having very good funding.

I think it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way, it's a big sport in this country but maybe not big enough, we need that one player to come through and win a few big ones to really get something going in this country, maybe Murray could be the player, but there has been already been a few good Swiss players coming partially because of Federer...

Murray breaks, 2 horrible errors from Djoker, as I said, this is when Murray is most dangerous. :undecided:

Tennis is popular, but a couple of things are the costs are quite ridiculous in some places to pay tennis, and the quality of courts are very poor.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:03 AM
Henman was arguably the best grass court player around for a period, but he was up against Sampras in that regard who was so 'clutch' it's untrue. He lost his big chance in 2001 and that will always dampen what was a very good career.

I always felt that way. :thup:

Neesy you're on crack man. Intimating he overachieved would be a better argument if he'd reached one GS semi not six. :lol:

His talent was limited, so I'm actually praising him for what he did.

4 of those semi's were at wimbledon, when the crowd basically helped to win some his points.

What did they do, hold the other play down?! :lol:

In some matches Yes.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:13 AM
Jesus, poor that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:16 AM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:19 AM
Murray :mackems:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:23 AM
Bellend.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:34 AM
Murray gets broken straight back.

Cotter: "Murray crumbles again". :shifty:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:55 AM
I think he may explode into a murderous rampage if/when he loses this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:34:56 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:36:12 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:36:35 AM
What odds he breaks down in tears again when he loses?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:37:11 AM
It's an indictment of the fact we can't produce tennis players in this country despite having very good funding.

I think it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way, it's a big sport in this country but maybe not big enough, we need that one player to come through and win a few big ones to really get something going in this country, maybe Murray could be the player, but there has been already been a few good Swiss players coming partially because of Federer...

Murray breaks, 2 horrible errors from Djoker, as I said, this is when Murray is most dangerous. :undecided:

Tennis is popular, but a couple of things are the costs are quite ridiculous in some places to pay tennis, and the quality of courts are very poor.

Yep, and I'm sure all of these factors will be improved if there's some success to aspire to, I think anyway, it's always hard when it may seem to some people that it's impossible for someone British to succeed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:37:34 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:38:05 AM
Just on a seperate note what ever happened to Juan Martin Del Potro? I know he got injured but he seems to have disappeared. He was everywhere in Argentina when I was there. Billboards, magazines, everything.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:38:37 AM
Seems to have been a lot of poor calls made by the linesmen in just over two sets.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:38:42 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:39:25 AM
Just on a seperate note what ever happened to Juan Martin Del Potro? I know he got injured but he seems to have disappeared. He was everywhere in Argentina when I was there. Billboards, magazines, everything.

Lost in 2nd Round.  Could drop out of top 500. :yikes:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:39:37 AM
Just on a seperate note what ever happened to Juan Martin Del Potro? I know he got injured but he seems to have disappeared. He was everywhere in Argentina when I was there. Billboards, magazines, everything.

Only just coming back really after a horrible/non-existent 2010, it will take a while for him, but he has time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:39:57 AM
Seems to have been a lot of poor calls made by the linesmen in just over two sets.

Yeah, a lot of challenges being successful.  Have they crumbled under the pressure as well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:40:41 AM
Wrist injury so he's been out for a year. Just recently came back at the end of last year, so he'll time to get back into the swing of things.

Murray's playing so passively.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:41:30 AM
Seems to have been a lot of poor calls made by the linesmen in just over two sets.

Yeah, a lot of challenges being successful.  Have they crumbled under the pressure as well.

Cheeky..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: BrettNUFC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:42:21 AM
Seems to have been a lot of poor calls made by the linesmen in just over two sets.

Yeah, a lot of challenges being successful.  Have they crumbled under the pressure as well.

If you have a bad game, obviously crumbled under pressure  :shifty:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Seems to have been a lot of poor calls made by the linesmen in just over two sets.

Yeah, a lot of challenges being successful.  Have they crumbled under the pressure as well.
:knuppel2:

It happens to be fair, although a lot of them have been very close, and these two hit the ball hard. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:42:32 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Two break points for Djokovic. This has been a pathetic match in terms of competitiveness.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:44:20 AM
Someone get the guy a sports therapist.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:44:31 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Hmm...I disagree massively, but I suppose we'll see, the rankings are a strange thing, but he'll lose a fair bit for not winning here after winning last year won't he? :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:45:00 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Hmm...I disagree massively, but I suppose we'll see, the rankings are a strange thing, but he'll lose a fair bit for not winning here after winning last year won't he? :undecided:

Yeap he will.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:45:23 AM
Murray coming up with some decent serves now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:45:33 AM
Just got up to watch this. I see Murray is having an absolute shitter.

Should have stayed in bed.

So should I.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:46:21 AM
Murray not getting much luck as well, not going to be his day.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Hmm...I disagree massively, but I suppose we'll see, the rankings are a strange thing, but he'll lose a fair bit for not winning here after winning last year won't he? :undecided:

Yeap he will.

Though he won't have much to defend for rest of the year, compared to Nadal anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:48:02 AM
That was excellent from Murray. Nice, strong backhand to save the game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:48:07 AM
Just got up to watch this. I see Murray is having an absolute shitter.

Should have stayed in bed.

So should I.

He's crumbled under the pressure we've agreed  :fishing:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:49:04 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Hmm...I disagree massively, but I suppose we'll see, the rankings are a strange thing, but he'll lose a fair bit for not winning here after winning last year won't he? :undecided:

Yeap he will.

Though he won't have much to defend for rest of the year, compared to Nadal anyway. :lol:

Yeap, it's difficult to predict how Federer will do.  Not the same player he was, but does sometimes put in an classic performance of his oldself.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:49:49 AM
Just got up to watch this. I see Murray is having an absolute shitter.

Should have stayed in bed.

So should I.

He's crumbled under the pressure we've agreed  :fishing:

To be honest, I think you could get away with saying that now :lol: Just at the time it was a bit on the harsh side.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:49:54 AM
Just on a seperate note what ever happened to Juan Martin Del Potro? I know he got injured but he seems to have disappeared. He was everywhere in Argentina when I was there. Billboards, magazines, everything.

Only just coming back really after a horrible/non-existent 2010, it will take a while for him, but he has time.

Hopefully he gets himself fit and playing again. Looked a pretty exciting player and its always good to have a few players at the very top level. Makes it a bit more exciting.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:50:22 AM
What a f***ing point to break, what a f***ing point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:50:23 AM
Amazing.  Novak is unbeatable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:50:27 AM
Game over. What a point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:50:46 AM
Well that's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:51:04 AM
Got to say again, the defensive play by Novak has been astounding.

Yep, and when married with his selective aggressive game you've got a hell of a player.

Yeap, he's upped his game massively the last 12 months.  Should we be calling it a top 3 in tennis now ???

Not sure, I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year, Federer is 4th behind Djokovic and Murray. :undecided:

No, that won't happen.

I think there's more chance of Federer retaking the #1 than there is of him dropping to 4th in the rankings.

Hmm...I disagree massively, but I suppose we'll see, the rankings are a strange thing, but he'll lose a fair bit for not winning here after winning last year won't he? :undecided:

Yeap he will.

Though he won't have much to defend for rest of the year, compared to Nadal anyway. :lol:

He'll lose over a thousand points, but he'll still be on nearly 8000, I think. Djokovic will obviously be very close to him, but Federer's got f*** all to defend from now on until the US Open series, and by f*** all, I really mean f*** all because his clay season was pathetic, he lost early in the French and at Wimbledon, and didn't even win at Halle. Federer just needs to have an average Federer season to overtake Rafa by Wimbledon, then there's 4 months for them to battle it out for the #1 ranking.

Obviously now Djokovic will have a lot of say in this, especially if he plays well on clay, which he's very capable of.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:51:19 AM
Genius from Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:52:21 AM
His defences are absolutely outstanding, no way past for Murray
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:54:21 AM
2 BPs for Murray after Djoker misjudged a volley badly. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:54:22 AM
Well Done Murray, chance to break back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:55:02 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. Nowt to do with the opponents being brilliant then? It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:55:41 AM
Wow, what a s**** shot by Djokovic. Murray breaks back.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:56:03 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

For the record I watch an obscene amount of tennis. :lol:

As I do a lot of sports. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:56:12 AM
Good grit by Murray to keep going.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:56:28 AM
Complacency setting in for Djokovic there?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:56:36 AM
He's living off Djokovic errors.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:56:51 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

For the record I watch an obscene amount of tennis. :lol:

As I do a lot of sports. :undecided:

It doesn't tell. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:57:44 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. Nowt to do with the opponents being brilliant then? It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

BBC's coverage of non-Wimbledon tournaments is a joke compared to the fact Wimbledon is on all day for 2 weeks on two channels.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:57:54 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

For the record I watch an obscene amount of tennis. :lol:

As I do a lot of sports. :undecided:

It doesn't tell. :lol:

:lol: Cheers.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:57:55 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

For the record I watch an obscene amount of tennis. :lol:

As I do a lot of sports. :undecided:

It doesn't tell. :lol:

You've really taken that crumble comment badly haven't you neesy :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:58:34 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. Nowt to do with the opponents being brilliant then? It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

Could have saved yourself a lot of bother and just typed: "Shut up, GM". 

:undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:59:18 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. Nowt to do with the opponents being brilliant then? It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

The Beeb have broadcast every Murray match on BBC2 and every night session (8am here) on the red button. Not ideal but more than you suggested. I agree though, a lot of people jump on the "damn Jock, threw it away again" bandwagon. He's playing number 3 in the world, not some hopeless nobody.

Having said that, Murray's record against the top 4/5 in major stages of Grand Slams is becoming a bit of a concern, he's not got close to Djokovic here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 10:59:24 AM
His ma looks like a right stern woman.

Cut that out you filthy little pervert. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:00:15 AM
Not long to go before the British hope becomes the dour Scot c*** who cant win a major.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:00:53 AM
Not long to go before the British hope becomes the dour Scot c*** who cant win a major.

And why not? :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:02:01 AM
Again Novak's defence, immense.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:02:16 AM
That was a dodgy looking smash :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:02:58 AM
Murray is defo playing much better this set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:03:11 AM
Murray's forehand steadily becoming more precise and harder...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:03:15 AM
Murray is defo playing much better this set.

Typical Jock.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:03:19 AM
Not watched any of this, seems like Murray has had a shocker and Djokovic has been very good.

I actually don't mind seasoned tennis watchers criticising Murray, it's when people aren't f***ing interested until the final that winds me up. For example how much of the rest of the tournament was live on the BBC? f*** all until it looks like he might win, then every part time prick claims they're big tennis fans and how he crumbled under the pressure if he loses. Nowt to do with the opponents being brilliant then? It was exactly the same when Henman played, and the same thing as when folks who've never even been to a football match moan about England at the major tournaments.

Came in here to post near enough the exact same thing. I'm only a casual watcher myself but some of the s*** on Facebook atm about him 'bottling it'. Rage-inducing.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:05:49 AM
Horrible luck for Murray. :undecided:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:05:55 AM
Typical Jock. He's bottled it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:06:20 AM
It's a real shame Federer lost to Djokovic. This would have been the easiest of his matches against Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:06:34 AM
Horrible luck for Murray. :undecided:

yeap, got to say Novak has had the run of the ball today as well with amount of defence hit and hopes staying in.

Great shot again.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:07:21 AM
It's a real shame Federer lost to Djokovic. This would have been the easiest of his matches against Murray.

Biased comment as always.  No one could beat Djokovic on this form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:07:58 AM
Murray is defo playing much better this set.

Typical Jock.

I always find it strange when people comment on the Scots & say "They always fight till the end" it is bull crap they only start fighting at the end.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:09:44 AM
Murray is defo playing much better this set.

Typical Jock.

I always find it strange when people comment on the Scots & say "They always fight till the end" it is bull crap they only start fighting at the end.

Very True.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:10:55 AM
Another great lob by Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:11:09 AM
Let him win  :tickedoff: Those were good enough shots to win against anyone else  :angry:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:11:10 AM
Great shot by Murray.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:11:15 AM
Awesome forehand.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:12:47 AM
It's a real shame Federer lost to Djokovic. This would have been the easiest of his matches against Murray.

Biased comment as always.  No one could beat Djokovic on this form.

Djokovic played better in his match against Federer. He's winning easily here because Murray's giving too many points away. The Federer-Djokovic, although it went only three sets, was of a much higher quality than this match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:15:02 AM
BREAK.

Serving for the match now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:15:11 AM
And that is Murray folding, yet again, in a big point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:15:51 AM
That's all folks. Get a box of tissues out there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:16:00 AM
And that is Murray folding, yet again, in a big point.

Looked very unsure what exactly to do.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:16:27 AM
He'll be getting the belt off his ma tonight will old Andy.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alpal78 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:17:10 AM
really one sided this final
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:17:37 AM
Pathetic from Murray. Honestly, man, he built up that point so well only to pussy out right exactly when he should have gone for the kill.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:20:05 AM
Match point, only 1 though...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:20:24 AM
Djokovic played that point so well, just sending Murray running from side to side and forcing the error.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:21:15 AM
Djokovic has thoroughly outclassed Murray today and played a sublime tournament. Deserves another GS (in case the first seemed like some kind of aberration). Surprised it has taken him this long to notch his second, although he has struggled with consistency.

Well done Novak  :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:21:23 AM
GSM.

Murray with 3 (or was it 4) errors to lose the game and match :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:22:31 AM
Well done Novak.

3 Grand Slam finals without coming close for Murray...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:22:31 AM
GSM.

Murray with 3 (or was it 4) errors to lose the game and match :lol:

Yeap, but forced errors most of them by Djokovic's awesome play.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:22:55 AM
Be dancing on the streets of Belgrade.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:23:00 AM
Superb from the Serb  :clap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:23:34 AM
Average by Murray, brilliant from Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:23:42 AM
He'll be getting the belt off his ma tonight will old Andy.

You have issues. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:24:25 AM
And Murray still does not have a set in a GS final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:24:34 AM
He'll be getting the belt off his ma tonight will old Andy.

You have issues. :lol:

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Disco on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:25:57 AM
He'll be getting the belt off his ma tonight will old Andy.

You have issues. :lol:

 :knuppel2:  :snod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:27:12 AM
Well done Novak.

3 Grand Slam finals without coming close for Murray...

Not unsurprising though. The problems he displayed today weren't to do with 'choking' as they've been persistent in his last three matches. The first serve % is not high enough, he hasn't been attacking when then serve has been landing in and he has been letting high calibre opponents back into rallies with far too safe shots. It's time to get a coach in again as tactically he isn't getting it right and technically he needs to develop a few shots.

On the other hand Djokovic has improved greatly since the middle of last year where he was absolutely awful for being inconsistent.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:27:49 AM
Murray needs to change his game in the big games, he didn't do badly in 1st and 3rd sets but it wasn't good enough.

Still he's done well in this tournament, and still has plenty to improve upon.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:28:33 AM
You talk a lot of sense in this thread O'Neill  :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:30:48 AM
Well done Novak.

3 Grand Slam finals without coming close for Murray...

Not unsurprising though. The problems he displayed today weren't to do with 'choking' as they've been persistent in his last three matches. The first serve % is not high enough, he hasn't been attacking when then serve has been landing in and he has been letting high calibre opponents back into rallies with far too safe shots. It's time to get a coach in again as tactically he isn't getting it right and technically he needs to develop a few shots.

On the other hand Djokovic has improved greatly since the middle of last year where he was absolutely awful for being inconsistent.

Agreed, he's not really developed at all for a while now, and Djokovic has gone from a player with terrible problems just 6/7 months ago, to this.

He played better than he did against Ferrer, but still far from good enough, obviously.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:31:12 AM
1    Nadal                360  12,390
2    Federer              720   7,965
3    Djokovic            2000   7,880         
4    Soderling            180   5,955
5    Murray              1200   5,760         

The fourth column is how many points they gained this week.

That's how things stand right now. Nadal has a historic clay season to defend, which imo he won't. Federer has f*** all to defend - including at the two Masters 1000 which he went out really early last year - so I reckon he could get up to 9000 or so points after Wimbledon, and Djokovic doesn't have much to defend as well, so he's also now got a shot at the #1 ranking.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:32:43 AM
1    Nadal                360  12,390
2    Federer              720   7,965
3    Djokovic            2000   7,880         
4    Soderling            180   5,955
5    Murray              1200   5,760         

The fourth column is how many points they gained this week.

That's how things stand right now. Nadal has a historic clay season to defend, which imo he won't. Federer has f*** all to defend - including at the two Masters 1000 which he went out really early last year - so I reckon he could get up to 9000 or so points after Wimbledon, and Djokovic doesn't have much to defend as well, so he's also now got a shot at the #1 ranking.

Murray has nothing to defend as well, as his form after the Aussie open last year till Wimbledon was dire.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:35:16 AM
1    Nadal                360  12,390
2    Federer              720   7,965
3    Djokovic            2000   7,880         
4    Soderling            180   5,955
5    Murray              1200   5,760         

The fourth column is how many points they gained this week.

That's how things stand right now. Nadal has a historic clay season to defend, which imo he won't. Federer has f*** all to defend - including at the two Masters 1000 which he went out really early last year - so I reckon he could get up to 9000 or so points after Wimbledon, and Djokovic doesn't have much to defend as well, so he's also now got a shot at the #1 ranking.

Murray has nothing to defend as well, as his form after the Aussie open last year till Wimbledon was dire.

He has two ATP 500 level events coming up in Rotterdam and Dubai during February. He should be looking to try a few new things out at those events before the Masters 1000 tournaments at Indian Wells and Miami in March. It would also be a really good time to go out and get a new coach in. Even Federer has had to get a little help to refine his game recently as the standard keeps going up so quickly.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:36:30 AM
Yeah but his game on clay is s*** so I don't think he'll make up too many points on the top 3.

OTOH, Djokovic has a good game on clay and lots of points to gain, so he'll put up a challenge. Federer has actually been in supreme form since the beginning of the US Open series last year - even though he's lost in the semis in GS twice in a row now. I think Federer's actually got the most points since Wimbledon last year (don't quote me on this), so if he can keep this up I see him getting real close to Rafa for the #1 ranking.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:39:57 AM
Maybe Murray needs to go the Rafa route, beef up like hell and just try to outlast his opponents, because Rafa's game early on was quite similar to Murray in that he was very defensive and relied more on his opponents committing mistakes rather than attacking and controlling the match. Obviously his game is much more developed now, but there are similarities between Murray's game now and Rafa's game back when.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:46:44 AM
Maybe Murray needs to go the Rafa route, beef up like hell and just try to outlast his opponents, because Rafa's game early on was quite similar to Murray in that he was very defensive and relied more on his opponents committing mistakes rather than attacking and controlling the match. Obviously his game is much more developed now, but there are similarities between Murray's game now and Rafa's game back when.

It's a fairly good idea but I think that it works more for Rafa because he plays the big topspin forehand with a different grip. It's a shot Murray doesn't have and to be honest most coaches wouldn't be keen on teaching it to players as it's a little unorthodox. It works for Rafa though and that's to his credit. What I think Murray needs is just to step into the court more and attack the ball. The top players are so good at staying in rallies that it's worth taking the gamble if the ball lands mid-court. Hitting the ball flat without the top spin is one of the best ways to hurt the big players, especially the clay courts who are looking for spin on the ball all the time. Berdych who has gone off the boil a bit recently had a lot of success doing this last year, as did Soderling.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:49:23 AM
1    Nadal                360  12,390
2    Federer              720   7,965
3    Djokovic            2000   7,880         
4    Soderling            180   5,955
5    Murray              1200   5,760         

The fourth column is how many points they gained this week.

That's how things stand right now. Nadal has a historic clay season to defend, which imo he won't. Federer has f*** all to defend - including at the two Masters 1000 which he went out really early last year - so I reckon he could get up to 9000 or so points after Wimbledon, and Djokovic doesn't have much to defend as well, so he's also now got a shot at the #1 ranking.



If he is fit then it is highly likely he will win the lot again. He is so far ahead on clay already, plus he has improved his game since last year.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:53:15 AM
The thing is, I've heard that being recommended to Murray ever since he first broke through in 2008, so I'm not sure why Murray hasn't tried it yet. Maybe he has and hasn't fully committed, or has tried it in tournaments but felt uncomfortable or didn't achieve the best results, or most likely is that he doesn't need to attack against the bad players so he's developed his style and habits that make him very successful against the shittier players but struggles against the best players because he can't flip the switch from defensive to offensive.

Last year against Rafa in the WTF was a prime example of him being unable to stay committed to attacking, and he gave away control to Rafa.

I don't think there's a doubt that Murray has the technical ability to succeed i.e. he can hit every shot in the book, but he just doesn't look to hit the attacking shots enough and settles into rallies against players who seize control very quickly. Against the non top-3, he induces errors and wins easily, but against the top 3 those players just play him off the court in the big matches.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:55:31 AM
Djokovic will be a threat on clay this year. He's shown that he has the game (has pushed Rafa on clay, most notably Madrid '09), but mentally he hasn't always been there.

He looks very confident right now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 30 January 2011, 11:56:55 AM
Djokovic will be a threat on clay this year. He's shown that he has the game (has pushed Rafa on clay, most notably Madrid '09), but mentally he hasn't always been there.

He looks very confident right now.

Rafa has improved massivley since then, looking at it right now, they seem to be the main contenders,.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 12:01:00 PM
Djokovic will be a threat on clay this year. He's shown that he has the game (has pushed Rafa on clay, most notably Madrid '09), but mentally he hasn't always been there.

He looks very confident right now.

It's hard to tell. We aren't near the clay court season yet and form can change very quickly. But that aside you have to remember that on the clay courts other players start to become more dangerous. Most of the Spanish players and a selection of the French guys who have been brought up playing on clay courts become tough opposition. The likes of Ferrer and Verdasco are certainly beatable but they become four and five set match opponents and not guys that are going to get blown away in three. Soderling, Berdych, Melzer etc should all be tough opponents because they are aggressive and will hit through the ball. Don't be surprised if Dolgopolov has a good run on the clay either, he looks just the same type of player as the three mentioned.

On this form I'd expect Djokovic to do well though but it will be very different.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 30 January 2011, 12:01:07 PM
I'm not sure it's possible for Rafa to improve on last year's clay season :lol:

Did he even lose a set in winning the three Masters and the French? He had an utterly ridiculous six weeks.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 12:01:44 PM
Agassi & Lendl lost their 1st 3 GS finals and they didn't turn out too bad.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 30 January 2011, 12:04:03 PM
I'm not sure it's possible for Rafa to improve on last year's clay season :lol:

Did he even lose a set in winning the three Masters and the French? He had an utterly ridiculous six weeks.

Yeah to my favourite under achiever Ernests Gulbis in Rome in the semis and I think he lost a set to Almagro in Madrid as well. Didn't lose one at Roland Garros though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:28:09 PM
It's a bit crazy to say '3 grand slams and he hasn't come close'. He got to the f***ing final, that's pretty close.

Well done Andy, you'll get one yet :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:37:56 PM
It's a bit crazy to say '3 grand slams and he hasn't come close'. He got to the f***ing final, that's pretty close.

Well done Andy, you'll get one yet :thup:

Losing 3-0 in each one is a million miles away.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Sunday 30 January 2011, 09:39:25 PM
come on Tim...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 19 March 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Nadal playing Del Potro at the moment. Quite a good match.

Federer is up after, playing Djokovic in the semis of the BNP Masters 1000.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Sunday 20 March 2011, 11:05:21 PM
Nadal struggling atm.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 21 March 2011, 02:04:38 PM
Nadal's serve went. When that happens it's easy to get caught in the trap of picking the wrong option of trying to keep firing it at full pace and making the same mistakes as opposed to taking a little pace off to find the court.

You can't rely on second serves against a player who is either very good (Djokovic) or having one of those days where everything they step into the court and hit is a winner.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 21 March 2011, 02:14:08 PM
Nadal was comfortably the better player for a set and a half, then as O'Neill says, his serve went, then he started making errors, but Djokovic also cut the errors out of his game too, think this year is between these 2, can't see Murray or Federer either getting up to or staying at the level that these two are currently at.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 21 March 2011, 02:25:34 PM
I don't see why people are ruling Federer out so easily. Djokovic is becoming a lot more consistent but even in his last three victories, the match was on Federer's racket, as it has always been, even against Nadal.

Of course, these players get back so many balls and eventually forces Federer into an error, but they're usually playing at close to their best while Federer is far from his peak. On Federer's day, which is not that rare, he's still the best.

He's still been a top player over the past 9 months (getting to the semis in every tourney since Wimbledon) and his current #3 ranking actually disguises this fact.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 21 March 2011, 03:05:25 PM
Novak is really impressing me at the moment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 12:34:35 PM
Nadal was comfortably the better player for a set and a half, then as O'Neill says, his serve went, then he started making errors, but Djokovic also cut the errors out of his game too, think this year is between these 2, can't see Murray or Federer either getting up to or staying at the level that these two are currently at.

Everything changes so quickly though. Djokovic has been hitting very well on the hard court surfaces but we only have one more big tournament to go before the clay court season starts. It will be interesting to see how he adapts. Even then, he's not going to remain undefeated forever and he could easily suffer a slump in form if he takes a loss off the wrong person. Similarly it would be a massive confidence boost to anyone who can defeat him.

My Miami Masters preview is on my blog here:
http://fhoneill.wordpress.com/

Look out for Del Potro vs Soderling in the early rounds. Del Potro is starting to play well again after his return from long term injury and Soderling has already picked up two titles this season so is also in form. Will be a great match if both guys make it to round three.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 22 March 2011, 05:17:19 PM
Well-written blog.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 24 March 2011, 07:56:53 PM
Well-written blog.

Ta.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 26 March 2011, 01:11:41 AM
What the hell is up with Murray?

Djokovic is in stunning form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 26 March 2011, 09:07:05 AM
What the hell is up with Murray?

Djokovic is in stunning form.

Doing his major sulk like last year.  Will come into form for the French Open though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 26 March 2011, 10:54:53 AM
What the hell is up with Murray?

Djokovic is in stunning form.

Doing his major sulk like last year.  Will come into form for the French Open though.

Sarcasm?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 3 April 2011, 06:27:55 PM
This has been excellent so far. Both hitting the ball so well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 16 April 2011, 04:40:38 PM
Murray :clap:

Has broken Nadal twice in the second set of the semis of the Monte Carlo Masters. It's unbelievable that he's gotten this far on clay, but even more unbelievable that he's giving Rafa a lot of trouble.

Rafa won the first set, though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Saturday 16 April 2011, 04:51:34 PM
Not a massive Tennis fan, but enjoying this game. Murray is pushing him all the way :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 16 April 2011, 04:55:04 PM
Murray takes the second set, 6-2 :thup:

It's the third set Rafa has lost on clay in over a year. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:06:15 PM
Looks like Nadal is back in control now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:08:01 PM
Murray is still in the points, but hasn't been able to finish them off. He can still break here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:37:19 PM
Rafa wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:38:06 PM
That match proves just how much it will take to beat him over 5 sets in the french open.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:42:23 PM
Thought Murray was good there, shame about the third set but its nice to see a return to form, a much shorter slump compared to last year. Nadal is just a beast.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Saturday 16 April 2011, 05:47:12 PM
That match proves just how much it will take to beat him over 5 sets in the french open.

It's impossible if he's remotely near his best fitness.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 16 April 2011, 06:27:38 PM
Bjorn Borg wouldn't beat Nadal on clay on his best day. It's like shoveling s**** against the tide.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 16 April 2011, 06:42:13 PM
He looked pretty vulnerable against Murray today. It just looked like his groundstrokes were weaker than normal. Maybe he just had an off day. Who knows.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 17 April 2011, 08:41:21 PM
Nadal beat Ferrer in the final today, that is his 7th straight Monte Carlo masters title.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Sunday 1 May 2011, 10:11:38 AM
Does anybody know how you book/ how much? it is to use North tyneside tennis courts- thinking churchill, crawford park- anyone know any others around monky/ rake lane?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 8 May 2011, 07:14:28 PM
Nadal getting a beat of a beating by Djokovic here, the king of clay about to be dethroned.


Never seen him serve this badly.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 8 May 2011, 08:04:17 PM
Game over, Djokovic wins.

Not sure where Nadal goes from here, can't serve, isnt moving well and is shots look ordinary. Djokovic is in his head, he can't get near him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 8 May 2011, 08:06:39 PM
Quick maths, vut if Djokovic wins in Rome next week, and Nadal doesn't make the semi's then Djokovic is the new number 1.


Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 8 May 2011, 08:14:02 PM
Unbeaten in 2011 isn't he? On fire!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Sunday 8 May 2011, 08:48:53 PM
Bellucci is going to surprise everyone. Just wait for it my friends.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:16:47 PM
Nadal struggling against the world number 148 at the Rome masters.

Nadal's king of clay tag is certainly coming to an end.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:22:02 PM
Nadal struggling against the world number 148 at the Rome masters.

Nadal's king of clay tag is certainly coming to an end.

Paolo Lorenzi beat Bellucci yesterday and apparently the supporters have been frustrating his opponents since he's Italian. They went out hard on Belluci yesterday and are probably doing the same today. Nadal will win anyways and also you have to remember that it's his 5 game in approximately 7 days now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:23:48 PM
Nadal struggling against the world number 148 at the Rome masters.

Nadal's king of clay tag is certainly coming to an end.

Paolo Lorenzi beat Bellucci yesterday and apparently the supporters have been frustrating his opponents since he's Italian. They went out hard on Belluci yesterday and are probably doing the same today. Nadal will win anyways and also you have to remember that it's his 5 game in approximately 7 days now.

It certainly had an affect on Belucci, but Nadal is missing easy shots in every rally, and his serve is woeful

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:27:32 PM
Nadal struggling against the world number 148 at the Rome masters.

Nadal's king of clay tag is certainly coming to an end.

Paolo Lorenzi beat Bellucci yesterday and apparently the supporters have been frustrating his opponents since he's Italian. They went out hard on Belluci yesterday and are probably doing the same today. Nadal will win anyways and also you have to remember that it's his 5 game in approximately 7 days now.
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That is why with the french open just over a week away, it won't be so bad if he suffers an early exit. Doesn't seem to have bothered Djokovic though, he won 6-0 6-3 in an hour. Can't see anyone stopping him at the french.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:28:57 PM
Djokovic is riding his hot hand right now, it's ridiculous though. He'll lose at some point though. Nadal will probably win this anyways today.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Djokovic is riding his hot hand right now, it's ridiculous though. He'll lose at some point though. Nadal will probably win this anyways today.

Currently 5-5 first set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:38:47 PM
Tie-break time..... and Nadal starts of with another unforced error.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 11 May 2011, 01:49:26 PM
First set Lorenzi.

Nadal is terrible.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 12 May 2011, 07:07:47 PM
Nadal won again today against Lopez, through to the quarters, he is ill at the minute he said he is likely to pull out of the tournament.

Federer has just been beaten by Gasquet in 3 sets.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 12 May 2011, 07:09:32 PM
Murray also just won, would meet Djokovic in the semi if both get there.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Friday 13 May 2011, 11:44:11 AM
Murray getting his arse handed to him on a plate in the Quarters.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: toon25 on Friday 13 May 2011, 11:45:37 AM
Murray getting his arse handed to him on a plate in the Quarters.

Good. f***ing t*** of the highest order imo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Friday 13 May 2011, 12:17:25 PM
And Murray's back in it. 1-1.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Friday 13 May 2011, 12:19:21 PM
Murray getting his arse handed to him on a plate in the Quarters.

Good. f***ing t*** of the highest order imo.

Why?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 13 May 2011, 12:23:19 PM
Djokovic must be loving this, there are only 4 men capable of beating him over 5 sets. Nadal, Federer, Murray and Del Potro. Del Potro and Nadal are struggling with fitness, and Murray and Federer are on a bad run of form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 13 May 2011, 12:50:34 PM
Murray rapes him. 1-6 6-1 6-1.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Saturday 14 May 2011, 11:45:37 AM
Nadal Vs Gasquet first on today, then Murray gets the chance to become the first man to beat Djokovic this year. Should be a cracker.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Saturday 14 May 2011, 06:04:04 PM
Djokovic will wipe the floor with him in his current form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 07:38:25 PM
Murray holding his own so far 2-1 down with Murray to serve, each have broken each other once  :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Saturday 14 May 2011, 07:43:35 PM
Getting paggered now though. Djokovic is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 14 May 2011, 08:30:26 PM
Making it interesting, at least.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 08:48:09 PM
Game on, lovely fightback from Murray with Novak missing some easy slams and volleys.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:24:00 PM
Murray breaks to love, 4-3 up in the deciding set  :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Loven11 on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:24:38 PM
Murray 4-3 ahead now in the 3rd set.

Too slow.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:34:26 PM
Break back from Novak.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:42:58 PM
Murray heroics, serving to win the match at 5-4
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:53:10 PM
Djokovic breaks back. 5-5, tense stuff.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Robster on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:54:21 PM
Sounds like an amazing match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:58:15 PM
6-5 Djokovic  :no: Murray serving to stay in it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 14 May 2011, 09:59:38 PM
Seen it all before
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:03:12 PM
Djokovic falls heavily at 15-30, Murray with a great volley to make it 40-30
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:06:14 PM
6-6, final set tie-break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:06:14 PM
Ffs it's like watching a better Henman
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:07:59 PM
Murray and tie-breaks don't go well :lol: Murray misses relatively simple volley.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alexf on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:08:08 PM
Ffs it's like watching a better Henman

absolutely
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:09:55 PM
Such a good match this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:11:31 PM
Djokovic will close out from here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:12:25 PM
Yep, 5-1 Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:13:50 PM
Murray makes me hate tennis, hours of tennis and you already know how it ends come the big points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:15:24 PM
Superb match, that. So much for Murray being battered. Too many unforced errors though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:16:33 PM
Djokovic wins, what a game. You could accuse Murray of bottling again but tbf he came up against a better player who is playing some of his best ever tennis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:16:54 PM
Murray you complete t***; so good, so s****.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:19:48 PM
Should add that I'm annoyed with myself for watching that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 14 May 2011, 10:20:06 PM
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTd3uYQ52uzrao1mZIF0RWtze_k-e3dHWaWvSClH6SBDE-j5XxCuA)

"I cannot be defeated!"
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 15 May 2011, 07:02:08 PM
Djokovic!

High quality so far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 15 May 2011, 07:13:07 PM
Djokovic takes first set 6-4.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 15 May 2011, 07:13:08 PM
He's on fire!!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 15 May 2011, 08:29:11 PM
Djokovic can't lose atm.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 15 May 2011, 08:46:08 PM
Djokovic can't lose atm.

True. At the moment Djokovic has more to fear from Murray than Nadal. He's figured out how to play against players who are going to defend the baseline from very deep and try to run down every return. It's a problem for Nadal given that his whole game is based around that style. If Djokovic isn't going to commit a lot of unforced errors and is going to strike the ball clean and hard often then he'll simply break down anyone who's going to try and sit deep to defend. If you look at a lot of the points from last night where Murray was well behind the baseline he was doing nothing but chasing the ball until he played a poor shot either landing mid-court or out. Novak is hitting so consistently that counter attacking isn't possible often enough for it to be an effective strategy. Murray had a lot more success when he was up on the baseline trying to push Djokovic around the court and then forcing him to hit backhand as often as possible.

I'm sure Nadal will have a look at the last two finals though and adapt his game going forward to better deal with the improved consistency of Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 15 May 2011, 09:04:52 PM
Djokovic can't lose atm.

True. At the moment Djokovic has more to fear from Murray than Nadal. He's figured out how to play against players who are going to defend the baseline from very deep and try to run down every return. It's a problem for Nadal given that his whole game is based around that style. If Djokovic isn't going to commit a lot of unforced errors and is going to strike the ball clean and hard often then he'll simply break down anyone who's going to try and sit deep to defend. If you look at a lot of the points from last night where Murray was well behind the baseline he was doing nothing but chasing the ball until he played a poor shot either landing mid-court or out. Novak is hitting so consistently that counter attacking isn't possible often enough for it to be an effective strategy. Murray had a lot more success when he was up on the baseline trying to push Djokovic around the court and then forcing him to hit backhand as often as possible.

I'm sure Nadal will have a look at the last two finals though and adapt his game going forward to better deal with the improved consistency of Djokovic.

:thup:

Only caught the second set today, but Nadal did better than he has done previously as the set wore on - abandoning his defensive game (which was ultimately a plan of staying in points long enough and hoping for unforced errors), and pushing on to play a little more aggressively. He wasn't learning fast enough, and as ever, I just don't think he has the range of shots necessary to dominate against another powerful player who can hit winners for fun/consistently.

Djokovic was still too good for him though, and I think he'll take him at Roland Garros too.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Sunday 15 May 2011, 09:12:53 PM
I'm not particularly a tennis expert but I watch/play it when I can, and I can't really remember off the top of my head a recent example of such domination like the past few months. Djok has been utterly immense.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Sunday 15 May 2011, 09:14:59 PM
Pre-injury Nadal vs. current Djokovic would have been a great match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 15 May 2011, 09:26:43 PM
I'm not particularly a tennis expert but I watch/play it when I can, and I can't really remember off the top of my head a recent example of such domination like the past few months. Djok has been utterly immense.

He has been amazing and very consistent on the court but he has also read the state of the game very well. Most of the top guys like to defend from behind the baseline and chase every ball down. For the last few years it has been the way to play but now Djokovic has found that if you can be consistent and step up to take the ball early then you can dominate rallies and force the defenders into making mistakes or leaving you easy opportunities to clean up. The bonus with Djokovic is that he has a strong defensive game himself which helps a good deal with offensive players like Soderling and Berdych who are going to step up and hit the ball harder than he can.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 23 May 2011, 07:33:10 PM
Need to get across to Roland Garros sharpish tomorrow morning. I've got tickets on the Suzanne Lenglenn court. Murray is on first, followed by Ivanovic, Soderling and then Clijsters. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 03:45:31 PM
Nadal 2-1 down against Isner in the first set.

Resent being at work, tremendously!

Nadal Is Ner Djokovic, was never gonna win it ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 03:46:12 PM
Isner now up two sets to one. Getting nervous now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 03:59:03 PM
I've just seen Murray's potential run. He couldn't really have asked for a better draw (on paper!)

Nadal's, if he comes back here, is the opposite. Davydenko round of 16, Soderling 1/4s?

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Incognito on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 03:59:19 PM
Wasn't Isner in that marathon game at Wimbledon last year?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 03:59:58 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Wasn't Isner in that marathon game at Wimbledon last year?

Aye he was. Utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 04:00:20 PM
Wasn't Isner in that marathon game at Wimbledon last year?

Yep, against Mahut.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 04:04:57 PM
If there was one person to get in a match like that it would have been Isner. There was no way Mahut was ever going to get a break the way Isner was serving, but also equally unlikely Isner got anything as his conditioning is so low.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 04:15:41 PM
into the 5th
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 04:27:51 PM
About over after that break, Nadal is too good for him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 24 May 2011, 05:50:00 PM
What a match, unbelievable serving from Isner but credit to Rafa for getting through. Could be what he needs. Rafa served brilliantly throughout was only broken once yet lost two sets.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 25 May 2011, 05:59:21 PM
Djokovic Vs Del Potro on friday.

This should/could be a classic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Friday 27 May 2011, 01:31:10 PM
Federer seems on song.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Friday 27 May 2011, 07:46:04 PM
Djokovic-JMDP on now, pretty great match so far
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Friday 27 May 2011, 07:53:11 PM
Best tennis I've seen in ages.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 27 May 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Suspended
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 28 May 2011, 12:39:33 PM
Murray's done his ankle in, trainer coming in  :no:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 28 May 2011, 12:52:56 PM
Lots of strapping and hes taken painkillers. Hitting very aggressively in an attempt to reduce the rally length and his overall movement.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Saturday 28 May 2011, 12:57:43 PM
Broken him twice since the treatment though, hopefully can get this match done in 3.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 28 May 2011, 01:04:12 PM
Rafa seems to be back on form. Let's hope verdasco or ljubicic pushes him more in the next round.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Saturday 28 May 2011, 01:04:57 PM
Murray wins set 2
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 28 May 2011, 01:48:28 PM
Impressive effort by Murray after the injury. However, Berrer's performance was one of the most inept I've ever seen from a tennis player.

Djokovic v JMDP Part 2 now, excellent.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Saturday 28 May 2011, 04:16:21 PM
Murray will have to play in the same way against Troicki, just go for everything. By beating Berrer he's reached the same stage he did last year and should therefore have defended his points. He needs to be right for Wimbledon really which is a month away. He lost his first match at Queens last year so won't lose a lot of points by not playing there, I'm hoping it's not so bad as he managed to play 2 sets on it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 05:25:47 PM
Murray v Troicki starting any minute.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 05:43:53 PM
Gutted for Murray here, his ankle is clearly not sorted and his movement is nowhere near 100%. A real shame with the draw he had.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Monday 30 May 2011, 05:55:45 PM
Just got at 2/5 on the other guy before SKYBET pulled the betting.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:08:05 PM
Erm from 5-0 down its now 5-3 with Murray to serve..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:09:00 PM
Erm from 5-0 down its now 5-3 with Murray to serve..

Looking nailed on for 5-4
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:09:35 PM
Just got at 2/5 on the other guy before SKYBET pulled the betting.

Hope you didn't put too much on O0 5-4 now
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Thespence on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:14:50 PM
Just got at 2/5 on the other guy before SKYBET pulled the betting.

Hope you didn't put too much on O0 5-4 now

Nah. Looking like 5-5 6-4 coming up.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:17:03 PM
Troicki holds.. just. 6-4 and Murray breaks a racket.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:17:27 PM
Just got at 2/5 on the other guy before SKYBET pulled the betting.

Hope you didn't put too much on O0 5-4 now

Nah. Looking like 5-5 6-4 coming up.


I had 5-5 written down for ages aswell :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:47:52 PM
Murray a break up in set 2. 4-2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 30 May 2011, 06:47:59 PM
Huge break there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 30 May 2011, 08:20:01 PM
Cracking match this, Murray up 4-2 in the 4th, probably going to a 5th set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 30 May 2011, 08:27:15 PM
5-2 Murray now. Serving for the set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Monday 30 May 2011, 08:27:33 PM
Unbelievable Jeff. Murray blundering and shouting his way back into it, mixed with some lovely winners.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 30 May 2011, 08:30:09 PM
Murray wins 4th set. Play suspended for bad light, will return tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SGSC on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 01:37:57 PM
 :lol: The ball boy. He's almost in tears, feel bad for the kid.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 02:00:58 PM
5-5 final set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 02:05:41 PM
Biggest bottle job ever from Troicki.

5-3 up serving for the match and was broken, now broken again and Murray is serving for the match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 02:12:14 PM
3 match points saved so far, number 4.............................. Murray wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 02:15:12 PM
Pheeeew  :celb:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 02:21:10 PM
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To celebrate here's a picture I took when I was at his first round match last Tuesday. :) Plenty more to come in the following days from last Tuesday/Wednesday including Djokovic and Soderling.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 03:01:26 PM
I can't believe this women's match went to the third set, making it a longer wait for the fed monfils match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 03:30:09 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only Murray fan on here then.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 06:53:52 PM
Nadal Vs Soderling tomorrow, as well as Murray vs Chela.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Tuesday 31 May 2011, 07:15:08 PM
Also Djokovic vs Federer in the Semi-final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Bish on Wednesday 1 June 2011, 05:54:59 PM
Allez Andy  :celb: Through to the semis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 1 June 2011, 06:05:31 PM
Vamos Rafa. Finally a return to form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Wednesday 1 June 2011, 06:29:45 PM
And to celebrate I'll post another of my photographs from last week. :)

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Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 1 June 2011, 07:10:30 PM
Was disappointed to see Monfils fall, but Federer is undoubtedly the better player. So much class and amazing that he might only be the fourth best player in the world right now. Would like Djokovic to win, if only to cement himself as the top player in the world right now. It would be interesting to see the reaction from his rivals throughout the rest of the season.

For the women, I am firmly behind Bartoli. Would love to see a French person win this title, and I find her style quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Wednesday 1 June 2011, 08:09:43 PM
Cool pics O'Neill :thup: Hoy more up!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Thursday 2 June 2011, 10:20:21 AM
Cool pics O'Neill :thup: Hoy more up!

More coming in the next few days. Just working my way through them picking out the better ones. I think there's around 1400 shots which I'm trying to narrow down as much as I can by getting rid of the uninteresting and out of focus snaps.

If it's of any interest I watched the following at some point over the two days so expect photos of these players to appear soon:

Murray, Ivanovic, Soderling, Clijsters, Wozniacki, Djokovic, Monfils, Schiavone, Azarenka, Kirilenko, Karlovic, Cibulkova.

I was also fortunate enough to get down to Roland Garros very sharp so that I was at the front of the queue both mornings. That meant I had plenty time to wander round the courts during practice as well.

Oh and here's one of Djokovic that I posted in the photography thread.

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Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Thursday 2 June 2011, 10:30:53 AM
None of the lasses? ;)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Thursday 2 June 2011, 11:10:14 AM
Sharapova is back :thup: roll on Wimbledon and those white outfits O0
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Thursday 2 June 2011, 12:06:28 PM
And to celebrate I'll post another of my photographs from last week. :)

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Fabregas watching in the background.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Thursday 2 June 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Sharapova on now against Li Na.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: wormy on Thursday 2 June 2011, 08:04:22 PM
When did Sharapova decide she was making a comeback?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Thursday 2 June 2011, 10:26:19 PM
Was disappointed to see Monfils fall, but Federer is undoubtedly the better player. So much class and amazing that he might only be the fourth best player in the world right now. Would like Djokovic to win, if only to cement himself as the top player in the world right now. It would be interesting to see the reaction from his rivals throughout the rest of the season.

For the women, I am firmly behind Bartoli. Would love to see a French person win this title, and I find her style quite enjoyable.

How in the hell is Federer only the 4th best player in the world?

Please god don't tell me you have Murray ahead of him?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Thursday 2 June 2011, 10:31:50 PM
He's clearly behind Rafa and Novak. 3rd at absolute best.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 3 June 2011, 09:59:18 AM
How people still criticize Murray still is beyond me.  He's made the Final against an superb Novak in Aussie Open and has made Semi's of French Open despite an ankle injury and it being his least favorite surface.

Let's get behind him for once?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 3 June 2011, 10:27:30 AM
How people still criticize Murray still is beyond me.  He's made the Final against an superb Novak in Aussie Open and has made Semi's of French Open despite an ankle injury and it being his least favorite surface.

Let's get behind him for once?

If he wasn't playing Rafa i would maybe support him.


Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Friday 3 June 2011, 12:31:10 PM
VAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :D
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 3 June 2011, 12:50:40 PM
What a day for tennis fans today. Allez Roger!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Friday 3 June 2011, 12:52:14 PM
 :nope: Hmm i wonder how badly his ankle will hurt today??
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:02:53 PM
He's clearly behind Rafa and Novak. 3rd at absolute best.

Of course he's 3rd best. He's 3rd best by a mile from anyone else.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:09:14 PM
Murrays getting better. He needs to move Rafa around and not let him get into a rhythm on the baseline.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:19:56 PM
Murrays getting better. He needs to move Rafa around and not let him get into a rhythm on the baseline.

Keep trying to put him on the backhand, he's nowhere near as dangerous on that side as he is with the forehand. You'll notice that where possible Nadal will try to step around and hit his forehand as it even on the wrong side of the court it can be devastating. Not that his backhand is bad, it's just more prone to landing short or firing out.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:24:28 PM
Murrays getting better. He needs to move Rafa around and not let him get into a rhythm on the baseline.

Keep trying to put him on the backhand, he's nowhere near as dangerous on that side as he is with the forehand. You'll notice that where possible Nadal will try to step around and hit his forehand as it even on the wrong side of the court it can be devastating. Not that his backhand is bad, it's just more prone to landing short or firing out.

Djokovic was very effective (on the second day) of keeping Del Potro on his backhand :thup: Though the disparity between Nadal's forehand and backhand is obviously not so great.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:34:59 PM
I actually think nadal's forehand has been getting very tight on the big points so it'd be wise to change his attacking strategy on the big points, like he did pretty well in the last game there even though Rafa held for the set. Tell you what, it looks like Rafa is really feeling the pressure this year. Djokovic will eat him alive if he's this hesitant on the big points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 3 June 2011, 02:36:43 PM
Djokovic was very effective (on the second day) of keeping Del Potro on his backhand :thup: Though the disparity between Nadal's forehand and backhand is obviously not so great.

At this level you are just looking for margins where you can gain some sort of advantage. Anywhere you can put the ball and know that the opposition doesn't have as high a percentage success rate as other parts of their game is a bonus. Obviously with the better players like Nadal the differences are very small and the opportunities to exploit are much fewer but they do exist.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Friday 3 June 2011, 03:27:24 PM
French Open looks interesting this year, everyone out at the same time and all racing for the finish line. Rafa and Djokovic have a small gap but the rest of the pack are keeping up pretty well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Friday 3 June 2011, 03:28:23 PM
Murray will bottle this again. Rafa is there for the taking.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Friday 3 June 2011, 04:37:51 PM
Murray will never win anything unless he quickly sorts a top coach out and tackles the mental side of his game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 3 June 2011, 05:04:23 PM
Murray will never win anything unless he quickly sorts a top coach out and tackles the mental side of his game.

He's won plenty already. They might all be the equivalent of the Carling Cup but they are still wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 3 June 2011, 05:11:40 PM
Aye. Silly post.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 3 June 2011, 05:43:10 PM
Anyone criticizing Murray should look at the British History of Tennis since the 1930's.  He's probably won more tournaments than all of the players before him put together.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 3 June 2011, 05:44:45 PM
Anyone criticizing Murray should look at the British History of Tennis since the 1930's.  He's probably won more tournaments than all of the players before him put together.

He has the talent to win more, which I think is the issue here.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 3 June 2011, 05:59:17 PM
Anyone criticizing Murray should look at the British History of Tennis since the 1930's.  He's probably won more tournaments than all of the players before him put together.

He has the talent to win more, which I think is the issue here.

He does, but playing Nadal at Roland Garros is always a tough ask for anyone.  Think he'll do very well at Wimbledon as he's going in with some form unlike last year.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Friday 3 June 2011, 06:18:30 PM
Anyone criticizing Murray should look at the British History of Tennis since the 1930's.  He's probably won more tournaments than all of the players before him put together.

He has the talent to win more, which I think is the issue here.

He does, but playing Nadal at Roland Garros is always a tough ask for anyone.  Think he'll do very well at Wimbledon as he's going in with some form unlike last year.

Christ sake, its the same crap said every year, he never fails to disappoint. He doesn't win because there are always better players in the way. SIMPLE. Every bloody year, he'll win in Australia, oh he'll probably run Nadal close in Paris and so on and so forth. Since the Australian final he has gone considerably backwards.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 3 June 2011, 06:58:38 PM
He's lost two Finals to Federer, one to Djokovic who still hasn't lost, two Semis to Rafa. The only one he really let himself down over was the Semi to Roddick.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 3 June 2011, 07:52:23 PM
This match would be even better if we knew it could go all the way and still finish tonight. Stupid French.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:14:15 PM
Federer reminds me of a sleazy Spainish holiday rep.

Listen to these stupid French tossers.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:15:28 PM
People still moaning about Murray? :D Best male player we've had for about 70 years, unluckily for him Fed, Nadal and Djokovic are in a different league. In any other era, he'd be a multiple Grand Slam champion.

This Djokovic-Fed match is the best I've seen for a long while.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:36:41 PM
two match points Federer.......................
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:37:54 PM
Federer wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:45:47 PM
Rafa Vs Roger on Sunday.

Vamos Rafa.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 3 June 2011, 08:59:26 PM
Magical federer today. He needs to keep Rafa off-balanced in the final and not get into a cross court rally that is rafa's forehand vs his backhand. He's hitting the ball very well so he'll have a shot but obviously Rafa is the favorite. It would be quite a story if federer won it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Saturday 4 June 2011, 12:09:08 AM
Rafa will win comfortably in three sets.

It still shouldn't take away from the fact that Federer is possibly the third best clay courter of all time. He record at the French is amazing. 5 finals in 6 years. He's unbelievably unlucky to be playing in the same era as Rafa when it comes to the red stuff.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 4 June 2011, 09:56:02 AM
Anyone criticizing Murray should look at the British History of Tennis since the 1930's.  He's probably won more tournaments than all of the players before him put together.

He has the talent to win more, which I think is the issue here.

He does, but playing Nadal at Roland Garros is always a tough ask for anyone.  Think he'll do very well at Wimbledon as he's going in with some form unlike last year.

Christ sake, its the same crap said every year, he never fails to disappoint. He doesn't win because there are always better players in the way. SIMPLE. Every bloody year, he'll win in Australia, oh he'll probably run Nadal close in Paris and so on and so forth. Since the Australian final he has gone considerably backwards.



Utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Saturday 4 June 2011, 12:58:16 PM
That is nonsense, he has the same talent as the others. What I meant above is a major. I know he's won plenty but to go on and win a major some things will need to change. And don't get me wrong, I think he's mint, I love watching him when he's at his pomp.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Saturday 4 June 2011, 01:12:20 PM
That is nonsense, he has the same talent as the others. What I meant above is a major. I know he's won plenty but to go on and win a major some things will need to change. And don't get me wrong, I think he's mint, I love watching him when he's at his pomp.

Obviously not.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Saturday 4 June 2011, 03:55:36 PM
(http://www.blog.tradesharktennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/francesca-schiavone.jpg)

WA-HE! WA-HE! WA-HE!

Horrible. Come on Li Na!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Sunday 5 June 2011, 02:20:58 PM
Federer-Nadal just started.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 02:47:30 PM
Nadal calling for the trainer when his opponent is on top. Shock horror.

Horrible cheating c***.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:01:25 PM
Not one first serve from Federer in that game.

Nothing to do with Nadal cheating like a cock and disrupting his rhythm.

No matter what Nadal achieves in his career, it will always be soured by s*** like this from him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:06:29 PM
No reason Federer should have let that slip away.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:09:45 PM
Why is nothing said about this cheating? Calls the trainer at 2-5. Gets back to 5-5 and then leaps 5 foot in the air when he wins the first point.

He's done in at least 10 times in his career and everyone just says people should be able to deal with it.

Federer was serving at 81% first serves. Nadal cheats. He misses 6 in a row. Serving is about rhythm which Nadal knows fine well.

It's a disgrace frankly and the injury timeouts should be banned if they're going to be abused.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:11:32 PM
No one mentioned it on the coverage over here either. It does seem weird that it's not even a talking point.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:13:00 PM
Ffs. Fed is playing pretty well so far. He's doing his best.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:15:58 PM
Ffs. Fed is playing pretty well so far. He's doing his best.

Course he is. But when you're playing the greatest clay courter ever, it's difficult.

It's more difficult when, as soon as you built momentum, your opponent cries about a blister and takes 5 minutes off.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 03:20:32 PM
Time to turn off.

I can't bear this f***ing arse licking. Not one mention of the cheating. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:28:19 PM
I f***ing love Federer. :smitten:

Heart of a champion. Even if he loses, he's really done well executing his strategy and this has not been easy for Rafa at all.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:28:45 PM
Really done well here Federer, back from a break down in the 2nd.

2 sets down against Nadal on clay and you're as good as beaten, needs this set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:29:55 PM
Again Pipisith, can I just say how SHOCKED I am that you're a Federer fan.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:42:15 PM
:lol: I've been one for years.

This is almost over now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:44:49 PM
God damn hate Nadal.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:47:12 PM
Me too. He's the Mourinho of tennis with how negative he is.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 5 June 2011, 04:57:21 PM
Me too. He's the Mourinho of tennis with how negative he is.

That's actually a good comparison.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:03:16 PM
How is that a good comparison like? :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:09:39 PM
Both cheats and people turn a blind eye to it because of their greasy Iberian charms.











:bluestar:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Rafa has taken 20+ seconds to serve on nearly every point. It's hard for Federer to get into a rhythm when his opponent continues to delay the game (when the rule is a maximum of twenty seconds).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:27:04 PM
Game on now.

Federer serving for the 3rd.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:31:54 PM
f***ing come on.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 05:53:12 PM
Rafa has taken 20+ seconds to serve on nearly every point. It's hard for Federer to get into a rhythm when his opponent continues to delay the game (when the rule is a maximum of twenty seconds).

f***ing Hell, you say you've been watching tennis for years.  Rafa has done that for years ffs.  Excuses.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:03:11 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:07:58 PM
Err, neesy, of course he's done that for years. That's why he's been criticized for it for years as well. My criticisms of Rafa are certainly not exclusive to this match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:08:32 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

He's from Mallorca but supports Real Madrid = c***.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:09:03 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

Nadal's game is not pleasing on the eye, but from someone who follows and plays tennis a lot his game is just simply the greatest imo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:09:34 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

He's from Mallorca but supports Real Madrid = c***.

Most of Spain support either Barcelona or Real Madrid tbh.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:11:37 PM
VAMOS RAFA!!!!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:12:11 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

Can't deny his talent though?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:12:22 PM
His game is obviously not the greatest. He's a winner, sure. Like Mourinho is a winner. But his game, his style and his general strategy is certainly not the 'greatest' because being great encompasses so much more than just being a winner.

He's the best clay courter in history, though. There's no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean he's the greatest.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:13:09 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

He's from Mallorca but supports Real Madrid = c***.

Most of Spain support either Barcelona or Real Madrid tbh.

Most of Scotland support Rangers or Celtic, doesn't mean they're not a pack of glory hunting b******s.

Glory hunting's more than enough for me to take umbrage with anyone.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:14:19 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

Can't deny his talent though?

Of course. I'd just rather see others win.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:15:06 PM
Btw he is actually a Real Mallorca fan, but when asked if he prefers Barcelona or Madrid he picked Madrid.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:17:03 PM
I really enjoy watching Nadal, really like how he can gradually just wear you down in a rally. Generally I don't tend to like the big serving guys, that's boring tennis to me. Not like Nadal doesn't hit some great winners either, though he does so less on clay for obvious reasons.

He does seem a bit of a tit though, tbh. But I've got twenty quid riding on him winning more majors than Federer by the time they're both finished, so that takes priority.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:17:26 PM
His game is obviously not the greatest. He's a winner, sure. Like Mourinho is a winner. But his game, his style and his general strategy is certainly not the 'greatest' because being great encompasses so much more than just being a winner.

He's the best clay courter in history, though. There's no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean he's the greatest.

Very doubtful imo.

Federer hasn't beaten Nadal on Clay but Nadal has beaten Federer at Wimbledon.  The way things are going Nadal will be right next to Federer on the Grand Slam count as well.  No grand slam win for federer since Aussie 2010 now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:19:25 PM
From the BBC live text.

"Roger comes forward to collect his runner-up trophy. Wonderful ovation. Now here comes Rafa... la Coupe des Mousquetaires is his. Aloft it goes. The sun has emerged to light up the Paris sky. What a moment. Now for the Spanish national anthem. Great tune. These are special times."

Aye, Spanish anthem gets me dancing every time like. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:21:24 PM
Nadal will go down as the best player in the history of the game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:22:27 PM
Spain dominate another Sport again.  They must be doing something right in Spain they have the best Tennis player in the world, best football team and the best cyclist.

I now know why Aligupter has the spain flag as his avatar.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:24:20 PM
Err, Federer has beaten Nadal on clay twice, and he did it in a five setter once as well. I'm not saying Nadal doesn't own him on clay but it's not fair to judge the overall head to head record now when Federer is obviously in decline. I bet Djokovic will end up winning his head to head with Nadal but that's because Nadal is no longer as dominant as he used to be.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:25:11 PM
Best cyclist :lol:

You mean that doping c*** Contador?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:25:16 PM
Also can I just say Tennis for me has much more drama than any football game imo.  Despite my utter love for football.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ponsaelius on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:26:25 PM
Also can I just say Tennis for me has much more drama than any football game imo.  Despite my utter love for football.

Nar, like.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:31:08 PM
Err, Federer has beaten Nadal on clay twice, and he did it in a five setter once as well. I'm not saying Nadal doesn't own him on clay but it's not fair to judge the overall head to head record now when Federer is obviously in decline. I bet Djokovic will end up winning his head to head with Nadal but that's because Nadal is no longer as dominant as he used to be.

Well Nadal has thrashed Federer in every single Roland Garros final he's been in against Federer, that is what counts.  Only 1 player has ever beaten Nadal at Roland Garros that is such an amazing feat.

Nadal is not as dominant, but Federer imo will be lucky to win another Grand Slam unless Nadal and Novak both crash out before the final stage.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:32:25 PM
Best cyclist :lol:

You mean that doping c*** Contador?

That is slander and is utter bollocks according to Sports court of law.  Could say that Lance Armstrong is a doping c*** with the allegations he is facing.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:33:17 PM
Best cyclist :lol:

You mean that doping c*** Contador?

That is slander and is utter bollocks according to Sports court of law.  Could say that Lance Armstrong is a doping c*** with the allegations he is facing.

Not really..
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:33:45 PM
Also can I just say Tennis for me has much more drama than any football game imo.  Despite my utter love for football.

:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:38:43 PM
Best cyclist :lol:

You mean that doping c*** Contador?

That is slander and is utter bollocks according to Sports court of law.  Could say that Lance Armstrong is a doping c*** with the allegations he is facing.

Not really..

Calling him a doping c*** when he's been found not guilty is libelous.  Which matches with Slander.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:44:34 PM
All the top cyclists dope. It's common knowledge. What they do is biologically impossible if they don't dope.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 June 2011, 06:50:16 PM
All the top cyclists dope. It's common knowledge. What they do is biologically impossible if they don't dope.

On the tour de France totally agree.  Most gruesome sporting challenge ever IMO.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 5 June 2011, 07:52:41 PM
Hilarious how the Murray bumboys in here are talking about Nadal being a cheat. Murrays histrionics are by far and away the worst in the entire sport. As for the arselicking of Nadal I find that hilarious. The crowd was about 80/20 fed clearly, both the BBC and eurosport commentary were itching for Rog to win.

Hate how it's billed beauty and the beast, both of them play beautiful tennis, Rog played some particularly great stuff.
Nadals character is unquestionable, him, nolle and Roger, most gracious players around. How many time against Murray did he not go with a bad line call? Simply conceded the points. He's incredibly gracious post match too.

Fantastic game. Best player won. Vamossss Rafa!!! :clap2: :hello2:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:18:08 PM
Only you mentioned Murray. Textbook.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:18:10 PM
Never once referred to Nadal as a cheat and I'm probably the biggest Murray fan on here.

Really like Rafa actually. Great character, great attitude towards the game and his opponents and obviously a fantastic player. The only thing I don't like is that he always seems to escape me when I'm at a tournament in person. Didn't catch him at Wimbledon last year and missed him the two days I was at Roland Garros this year. I have a ticket for the Wimbledon final this year so I'm hoping to finally see him live.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:22:14 PM
Hilarious how the Murray bumboys in here are talking about Nadal being a cheat. Murrays histrionics are by far and away the worst in the entire sport. As for the arselicking of Nadal I find that hilarious. The crowd was about 80/20 fed clearly, both the BBC and eurosport commentary were itching for Rog to win.

Hate how it's billed beauty and the beast, both of them play beautiful tennis, Rog played some particularly great stuff.
Nadals character is unquestionable, him, nolle and Roger, most gracious players around. How many time against Murray did he not go with a bad line call? Simply conceded the points. He's incredibly gracious post match too.

Fantastic game. Best player won. Vamossss Rafa!!! :clap2: :hello2:

I'm glad Nadal won, but you're a complete and utter embarrassment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Tooj on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:22:18 PM
There's something about Nadal I really don't like. Not sure exactly what it is but I don't feel it with any of the other top players.

Might be something to do with his bumboys on here, but he strikes me as a bit of a c***. And his game is pretty boring to me.

He's from Mallorca but supports Real Madrid = c***.

Most of Spain support either Barcelona or Real Madrid tbh.

It's even worse though, when you consider his uncle's legendary status in Barcelona.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: captainhaircut on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:38:28 PM
Never once referred to Nadal as a cheat and I'm probably the biggest Murray fan on here.

Really like Rafa actually. Great character, great attitude towards the game and his opponents and obviously a fantastic player. The only thing I don't like is that he always seems to escape me when I'm at a tournament in person. Didn't catch him at Wimbledon last year and missed him the two days I was at Roland Garros this year. I have a ticket for the Wimbledon final this year so I'm hoping to finally see him live.

I called him a cheat about 5 times and I hate Murray!

He is a cheat. Sensational player which is why it annoys me so much. He has faked injuries countless times now to break momentum of people and the reason he does it is because he knows it takes an unreal level to beat him. If a player reaches that level, its not easy to pick back up after a 5/10 minute break.

What annoys me the most is that no one mentioned it today. He reals off 7 games in a row and everyone is saying how amazing it was. It was amazing, yes. But it was contributed to by the delay. It was almost like it never happened.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 5 June 2011, 08:44:46 PM
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Hilarious how the Murray bumboys in here are talking about Nadal being a cheat. Murrays histrionics are by far and away the worst in the entire sport. As for the arselicking of Nadal I find that hilarious. The crowd was about 80/20 fed clearly, both the BBC and eurosport commentary were itching for Rog to win.

Hate how it's billed beauty and the beast, both of them play beautiful tennis, Rog played some particularly great stuff.
Nadals character is unquestionable, him, nolle and Roger, most gracious players around. How many time against Murray did he not go with a bad line call? Simply conceded the points. He's incredibly gracious post match too.

Fantastic game. Best player won. Vamossss Rafa!!! :clap2: :hello2:

I'm glad Nadal won, but you're a complete and utter embarrassment.

Why because Ive pointed out that there are Murray fans who don't seem to mention his histrionics yet call Nadal a cheat? I could have said Soderling but u don't see much about him on here.

When will it sink into you that just because I don't like murray or his personality, I don't think he's a cracking player just not as good as those above him?

Besides in this particular thread being called an embarrassment by you is quite the compliment.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 5 June 2011, 09:35:14 PM
Never once referred to Nadal as a cheat and I'm probably the biggest Murray fan on here.

Really like Rafa actually. Great character, great attitude towards the game and his opponents and obviously a fantastic player. The only thing I don't like is that he always seems to escape me when I'm at a tournament in person. Didn't catch him at Wimbledon last year and missed him the two days I was at Roland Garros this year. I have a ticket for the Wimbledon final this year so I'm hoping to finally see him live.

I called him a cheat about 5 times and I hate Murray!

He is a cheat. Sensational player which is why it annoys me so much. He has faked injuries countless times now to break momentum of people and the reason he does it is because he knows it takes an unreal level to beat him. If a player reaches that level, its not easy to pick back up after a 5/10 minute break.

What annoys me the most is that no one mentioned it today. He reals off 7 games in a row and everyone is saying how amazing it was. It was amazing, yes. But it was contributed to by the delay. It was almost like it never happened.

His physios came down when it was break anyway.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 5 June 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Never once referred to Nadal as a cheat and I'm probably the biggest Murray fan on here.

Really like Rafa actually. Great character, great attitude towards the game and his opponents and obviously a fantastic player. The only thing I don't like is that he always seems to escape me when I'm at a tournament in person. Didn't catch him at Wimbledon last year and missed him the two days I was at Roland Garros this year. I have a ticket for the Wimbledon final this year so I'm hoping to finally see him live.

I called him a cheat about 5 times and I hate Murray!

He is a cheat. Sensational player which is why it annoys me so much. He has faked injuries countless times now to break momentum of people and the reason he does it is because he knows it takes an unreal level to beat him. If a player reaches that level, its not easy to pick back up after a 5/10 minute break.

What annoys me the most is that no one mentioned it today. He reals off 7 games in a row and everyone is saying how amazing it was. It was amazing, yes. But it was contributed to by the delay. It was almost like it never happened.

Wasn't referring to anyone in particular. It's not just him alot of players do it. Despite the delay players don't usually lose 7 on the bounce when it happens. It is the same as his obsessive routine, it was looked into but the delays weren't sufficient to warrant a warning, Federer looked up to the Umpire half a dozen times.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 5 June 2011, 11:59:28 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157626893308376/

First batch of images from my trip to Roland Garros this year. Will be adding more later in the week before I get onto the Formula 1 shots.

Shots include: Murray, Ivanovic, Soderling, Clijsters, Djokovic, Wozniacki, Azarenka, Monfils, Schiavone, Cibulkova and Kirilenko amongst others.

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Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 6 June 2011, 12:42:09 AM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157626893308376/

First batch of images from my trip to Roland Garros this year. Will be adding more later in the week before I get onto the Formula 1 shots.

Shots include: Murray, Ivanovic, Soderling, Clijsters, Djokovic, Wozniacki, Azarenka, Monfils, Schiavone, Cibulkova and Kirilenko amongst others.

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How did you find it? By far and away my favourite Tennis venue. First year I haven't been able to make it in about 8,gutted. Good pictures.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ash on Monday 6 June 2011, 12:47:31 AM
Really enjoyed the French Open, some superb tennis on show.

Hoping to get to a day or two at Flushing Meadows, can't wait. :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 6 June 2011, 12:53:50 AM
Really enjoyed the French Open, some superb tennis on show.

Hoping to get to a day or two at Flushing Meadows, can't wait. :)

I'm off to the Aussie open next year. Looking forward to the ATP finals again this year, last years was fantastic, even though I was in the gods. My highlight this year was Novak in Rome.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ash on Monday 6 June 2011, 12:57:59 AM
Really enjoyed the French Open, some superb tennis on show.

Hoping to get to a day or two at Flushing Meadows, can't wait. :)

I'm off to the Aussie open next year. Looking forward to the ATP finals again this year, last years was fantastic, even though I was in the gods. My highlight this year was Novak in Rome.

You get around a bit!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 6 June 2011, 01:08:57 AM
Really enjoyed the French Open, some superb tennis on show.

Hoping to get to a day or two at Flushing Meadows, can't wait. :)

I'm off to the Aussie open next year. Looking forward to the ATP finals again this year, last years was fantastic, even though I was in the gods. My highlight this year was Novak in Rome.

I'm at a wedding in Australia so killing two birds really. Going with my aunties boss who gets corporate seats so I'm pissing my pants! I'm usually in crap seats. ATP  finals was a chrimbo present and Rome a birthday one. Going away next month so could not afford Wimbledon or Paris.
You get around a bit!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 6 June 2011, 07:44:44 AM

How did you find it? By far and away my favourite Tennis venue. First year I haven't been able to make it in about 8,gutted. Good pictures.

I thought it was excellent. The complex feels a little small in comparison to Wimbledon so I can see why they want to expand it somewhat. The main avenue between the  Chatrier and Lenglen courts always seemed to be crammed full of people which made travelling from Lenglen to court 3 and Chatrier to court 14 to catch matches a little time consuming but it was to be expected.

As with most venues I quite enjoyed the smaller courts as you get up closer to the action. I was surprised at just how good the layout is in comparison to Wimbledon. A few rows of seating on every outside court is much more favourable than the park benches that Wimbledon have on some of their outside courts.

The staff were just superb. Majority operated on a common sense approach and were very helpful. The security lad on Lenglen was quite happy to let me roam around a bit with the camera as opposed to forcing me to stay in my allocated seat. Only one steward got a bit over the top about 'professional looking camera equipment' but there were enough people with them that he just gave in and went away as opposed to getting silly about it.

The only thing I was disappointed about was that I only went for the two days as I don't really know anyone else who is enthusiastic enough about tennis that I could drag along for longer. Ideally I could have gone for a week or longer without ever getting bored. :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 6 June 2011, 10:28:24 AM
Hilarious how the Murray bumboys in here are talking about Nadal being a cheat. Murrays histrionics are by far and away the worst in the entire sport. As for the arselicking of Nadal I find that hilarious. The crowd was about 80/20 fed clearly, both the BBC and eurosport commentary were itching for Rog to win.

Hate how it's billed beauty and the beast, both of them play beautiful tennis, Rog played some particularly great stuff.
Nadals character is unquestionable, him, nolle and Roger, most gracious players around. How many time against Murray did he not go with a bad line call? Simply conceded the points. He's incredibly gracious post match too.

Fantastic game. Best player won. Vamossss Rafa!!! :clap2: :hello2:

I'm glad Nadal won, but you're a complete and utter embarrassment.

Agree with Ronaldo here.  Ridiculous comments.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Monday 6 June 2011, 11:07:29 AM
Hilarious how the Murray bumboys in here are talking about Nadal being a cheat. Murrays histrionics are by far and away the worst in the entire sport. As for the arselicking of Nadal I find that hilarious. The crowd was about 80/20 fed clearly, both the BBC and eurosport commentary were itching for Rog to win.

Hate how it's billed beauty and the beast, both of them play beautiful tennis, Rog played some particularly great stuff.
Nadals character is unquestionable, him, nolle and Roger, most gracious players around. How many time against Murray did he not go with a bad line call? Simply conceded the points. He's incredibly gracious post match too.

Fantastic game. Best player won. Vamossss Rafa!!! :clap2: :hello2:

I'm glad Nadal won, but you're a complete and utter embarrassment.

Agree with Ronaldo here.  Ridiculous comments.

How is that exactly? Rafa is incredibly gracious.The game is often billed as style over brute force. Nadal is number 1 in the world, Roger is 3. Murrays histrionics spoil his own game, his attitude against Nadal was the best he's displayed all year, even though he let it slip a few times.

What is ridiculous about stating facts?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 6 June 2011, 11:10:33 AM
Spain dominate another Sport again.  They must be doing something right in Spain they have the best Tennis player in the world, best football team and the best cyclist.

I now know why Aligupter has the spain flag as his avatar.

To be fair if the UK had their climate we'd be a helluva lot better as well.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: The Prophet on Wednesday 8 June 2011, 10:33:51 PM
http://newsthump.com/2011/06/08/andy-murray-to-watch-wimbledon-final-in-3d/ (http://newsthump.com/2011/06/08/andy-murray-to-watch-wimbledon-final-in-3d/)

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Andy Murray to watch Wimbledon final in 3D

The BBC will show the finals at this year’s Wimbledon Championships live in 3D, giving Andy Murray the opportunity to feel like he is actually there.

The matches will be shown in a free-to-air broadcast and will be available to Andy Murray and other viewers if they have access to a 3D TV and HD channels, and do not consider the experience too painful.

Danielle Nagler, head of BBC 3D said, “We wanted to give Andy a more realistic way of experiencing all the drama.”

“It looked like he may have had a chance of reaching the final this year, but Roger Federer’s return to form has given him a bit of a wake-up-call and this is our way of softening the blow.”

“So Britain’s number one will now be able to watch the player that beats him in the semi-final lining up against the player that would’ve beaten him in the other semi-final – all in glorious 3D.”

Murray to watch 3D Wimbledon
Experts have said the technological development will see a male British tennis player feel like he is actually in the final for the first time in 75 years.

“There has never been a more exciting time to be a British tennis player with a 3D television.” Said Lawn Tennis Associate spokeswoman Laura Williams.

“In many ways, the experience will be even better than playing in it.  You’ll be cooler, will have drinks on hand, and can switch over to see if there’s anything good on the other side whenever you feel like it.”

Fans of the Scotsman and other masochists have been assured that all of Andy Murray’s matches, including his semi-final defeat, will still be screened in 2D.


 :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 10 June 2011, 08:49:04 PM
Well played James Ward reaching the Semi Finals of Queen's this week. Can't do his ranking any harm at all.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 10 June 2011, 08:59:51 PM
Well played James Ward reaching the Semi Finals of Queen's this week. Can't do his ranking any harm at all.

He should rise up above 200, although I'm not sure if he's playing Eastborne next week which means he'd lose half the ranking points he gains given that he'd not be defending 45 of the minimum 90 he'll pick up here. Effectively it should put him in a better position to qualify for more ATP250 events as opposed to playing on the Challenger tour. He's on the wildcard list for Wimbledon too so will go straight into the first round. If he is fortunate enough to get a kind draw then maybe he can do himself more good.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Saturday 11 June 2011, 02:12:13 PM
Murray playing superb tennis, easing past Roddick, thank god.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 11 June 2011, 02:25:11 PM
Roddick is nowhere near the player he used to be, mind you.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 11 June 2011, 03:22:42 PM
Yeah he's done. The commitment just isn't there anymore for him. The game's dominated by all-court all-round players. Roddick may have a good US Open run or two in him, but he's done as a serious contender for Masters and for a top 5 ranking (it'll be the top 4 + Del Potro).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 11 June 2011, 03:24:22 PM
Ward is somehow a break up in the second-set. Well beaten in the first.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 11 June 2011, 03:30:57 PM
One of the worst service games I've ever seen like, to hand him the break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 11 June 2011, 03:59:54 PM
If Murray wins Wimbeldon this year I'll shave my arse in public.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Neil on Saturday 11 June 2011, 04:15:04 PM
(http://www.dailyhaggis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/o_rly.jpg)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mike on Saturday 11 June 2011, 04:20:34 PM
:lol: Neil isn't f***ing around.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 11 June 2011, 06:24:29 PM
Roddick is nowhere near the player he used to be, mind you.

Not sure what you mean by that. He was never anything approaching 'great'. He won the US Open when there was simply nobody else around to win it, and has done nothing in the the 8 years that have followed. Lucky b******.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 11 June 2011, 06:31:33 PM
Roddick is nowhere near the player he used to be, mind you.

Not sure what you mean by that. He was never anything approaching 'great'. He won the US Open when there was simply nobody else around to win it, and has done nothing in the the 8 years that have followed. Lucky b******.

He used to have more facets to his game than just a massive serve. On recent showings, he's got nothing left apart from that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 12:38:13 AM
Roddick is nowhere near the player he used to be, mind you.

Not sure what you mean by that. He was never anything approaching 'great'. He won the US Open when there was simply nobody else around to win it, and has done nothing in the the 8 years that have followed. Lucky b******.



Roger Federer? The man that had just won Wimbledon. Roddick was top of the pile, albeit briefly, of a fine set of players including Federer( who'd won Wimbledon) Juan Carlos Ferrero (who'd won the French)Andre Agassi ( who had won the Australian of 2003), Carlos Moya, David Nalbandian. Not the calibre of a Nadal/ Murray ( who were just getting started really) but very fine players. U talk s****.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 12 June 2011, 12:56:57 AM
Even Murray's own mam must find it difficult to cheer for him.  He's a miserable prick and the most boring man in world sport.

That time when he tried to give it large by flexing his muscles was so cringeworthy.  Why do that when there's someone who's twice the size, twice the athlete and twice the tennis player as you.  At least Henman and even Rusedski had a bit of likeable factor to them, Murray's just a knob.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:03:32 AM
Roddick is nowhere near the player he used to be, mind you.

Not sure what you mean by that. He was never anything approaching 'great'. He won the US Open when there was simply nobody else around to win it, and has done nothing in the the 8 years that have followed. Lucky b******.



Roger Federer? The man that had just won Wimbledon. Roddick was top of the pile, albeit briefly, of a fine set of players including Federer( who'd won Wimbledon) Juan Carlos Ferrero (who'd won the French)Andre Agassi ( who had won the Australian of 2003), Carlos Moya, David Nalbandian. Not the calibre of a Nadal/ Murray ( who were just getting started really) but very fine players. U talk s****.

Federer wasn't at his best yet. Moya was no hardcourt player, Agassi had won his final GS, Ferrero and Nalbandian? p*ss off. :lol:

Roddick is the worst GS slam winner in the last 2 decades. An extremely one-dimensional player which you yourself have alluded to, when taking a break from your usual anti-Murray propaganda.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:05:32 AM
Even Murray's own mam must find it difficult to cheer for him.  He's a miserable prick and the most boring man in world sport.

That time when he tried to give it large by flexing his muscles was so cringeworthy.  Why do that when there's someone who's twice the size, twice the athlete and twice the tennis player as you.  At least Henman and even Rusedski had a bit of likeable factor to them, Murray's just a knob.

Neither fit to share a court with him, though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:10:57 AM
Definitely, and it must be so infuriating for him that despite how good he is and ever will be, throughout his entire career there's always going to be someone better than him.

Basically, he is CRonaldo and Nadal is Messi.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: tmonkey on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:22:41 AM
Even Murray's own mam must find it difficult to cheer for him.  He's a miserable prick and the most boring man in world sport.

That time when he tried to give it large by flexing his muscles was so cringeworthy.  Why do that when there's someone who's twice the size, twice the athlete and twice the tennis player as you.  At least Henman and even Rusedski had a bit of likeable factor to them, Murray's just a knob.

Neither fit to share a court with him, though.

But Tiger Tim has Henman Hill. What does Murray have?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:26:09 AM
Ferrero? Aye wining the French is nowt. Are u serious?

Not disagreeing with you on the fact that Roddick is a one trick pony, his tennis is very hard to watch. But when he was younger he had a fine double backhand. Laughable to suggest he has been lucky or done nothing in the past 8 years. Fair enough his finals have been at Wimbledon and the US, his game doesnt suit the other two, so he's never really been a complete or all-round player, like alot of other players (Murray included) he's just happens to have been beaten by much better players, in his case Federer.

I disagree with the sentiment that there was no-one else to win it, the players you have scoffed at were fine players.

I wanted Murray to win by the by.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 01:49:06 AM
Ferrero winning the French proves my point, mate. We're talking context, and I almost pity that you can't grasp that.

It was a poor era for tennis and Roddick was lucky enough to arrive and play well at such a time. Had be been born 10 years earlier we all know he wouldn't have made a mark.

I mean, Christ, Lleyton Hewitt won Wimbledon a year earlier, Lleyton f***ing Hewitt. Between 2003 and 2006 there was only one truly great tennis player on the scene. It's terrific for the sport that we now have 4 or 5.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 02:22:41 AM
Ferrero winning the French proves my point, mate. We're talking context, and I almost pity that you can't grasp that.

It was a poor era for tennis and Roddick was lucky enough to arrive and play well at such a time. Had be been born 10 years earlier we all know he wouldn't have made a mark.

I mean, Christ, Lleyton Hewitt won Wimbledon a year earlier, Lleyton f***ing Hewitt. Between 2003 and 2006 there was only one truly great tennis player on the scene. It's terrific for the sport that we now have 4 or 5.

Please then explain Roddicks record after that. Was he lucky in  2004,2005,2006,2009? Or was the standard of tennis poor? That doesn't in "context" suggest that he's been lucky or turboshit for 8 years.

I still strongly disagree that it was a poor period for tennis, at very worst, a transitional one, with some sublime players across the board, whether ending careers or burgeoning ones.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 02:29:16 AM
Burgeoning. Presumably you mean Nalbandian again. :lol:

As I said, between 03 and 06 there was only one great player on the scene, which is why Roddick made a few finals. He played well at Wimbledon in 09, but a guy with that serve should, in fairness. You can't dispute the fact that Roddick's best days came in an era where one player stood far above them all. Roddick's serve won him 2nd prize.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 12 June 2011, 02:39:47 AM
Go go gadget Murray yaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 02:42:43 AM
Burgeoning. Presumably you mean Nalbandian again. :lol:

As I said, between 03 and 06 there was only one great player on the scene, which is why Roddick made a few finals. He played well at Wimbledon in 09, but a guy with that serve should, in fairness. You can't dispute the fact that Roddick's best days came in an era where one player stood far above them all. Roddick's serve won him 2nd prize.

Your either taking the p*ss, it's clear I meant Federer, or .... No u are.
I mentioned a few players around at the time not the bloody rankings.He was a very good player, Nalbandian, wasn't pinpointing him.

I do get your point, I'd never disagree that he's a very limited player. My point is as I've made the tennis world at the time wasn't poor (certainly not as good as now, because it's now exceptional, mens game). As much as I don't like Roddick I think your comments were rather unfair to him. He's certainly gone as far as he can go.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 12 June 2011, 11:57:41 AM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: GeordieMessiah on Sunday 12 June 2011, 11:59:20 AM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Ivanisevic?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 12 June 2011, 03:25:35 PM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Ivanisevic?


Yeah... him. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Sunday 12 June 2011, 03:32:58 PM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Only for the rain delays in the semis he'd have never got past Henman.  Henman twatted him 6-0 in the third set then it started pissing it down and play got suspended, which gave Ivanisevic a chance to regroup.

Poor Tim.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 12 June 2011, 03:40:16 PM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Except he reached 3 grand slam finals which is more than a whole lot of tennis players have ever done.  He would have won Wimbledon earlier apart from playing the greatest Grass Court player ever in Pistol Pete.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:07:48 PM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Only for the rain delays in the semis he'd have never got past Henman.  Henman twatted him 6-0 in the third set then it started pissing it down and play got suspended, which gave Ivanisevic a chance to regroup.

Poor Tim.

yeah, I know. But I was glad he won. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:08:41 PM
Still don't know how Goran (Yes... I can't spell his second name!) managed to win it... probably the most limited grand slam winner I've seen. :lol: Great charachter though. :thup:

Except he reached 3 grand slam finals which is more than a whole lot of tennis players have ever done.  He would have won Wimbledon earlier apart from playing the greatest Grass Court player ever in Pistol Pete.

Means nothing to me..... he's still limited in his play. Never said he was rubbish.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:19:22 PM
Ronaldo, we don't have 4 or 5 great players, though. Murray's not a great player. He's mentally weak. He's won a few Masters titles but that's it. His resume is pretty limited. He's got talent but just hasn't followed that up, and that's the story with many other players of past eras. A few guys like Coria and Ferrero could have had better careers. The fact that Federer can still consistently make the semis and finals of big tournaments reflects badly on the quality of the men's game today because Federer is obviously not the player he once was (he's a step slower in general, but two steps slower when he moves to his right). I think Federer's the greatest of all time, but it's his intelligence that's keeping him in contention today. At his peak he was the best mover I've ever seen on a tennis court. Everyone except Rafa should feel pretty badly about their own game because they can't match a declining Federer. With the exception of Djokovic this year, no one has really challenged the top two players, so I'm not sure why you think the quality of the men's game today is better than it was. The style of play has certainly changed, though. Every top player has an all-round game, and I think that makes for better viewing, which is why people might get the impression that the quality is better today. But that's an evolution based on how the courts have changed as well as development of equipment. The grass at Wimbledon is slow, the hardcourts at certain Masters are slower than they were and the technological development in equipment has made it easier to stand back and thump the ball.

I think you're seriously overestimating the quality of the players today and at the same underestimating the quality of the players of past eras.

Roddick's a decent player. His resume is actually better than Murray's. He was a good player in his day; a limited one, yes, but one who was tough to beat on his day and on his court. Hell, he beat Murray two years ago at Wimbledon, playing some great tennis. He had the talent but I think losing so often to Federer killed him. Peak Roddick would beat the Murray of today and would give Rafa trouble on grass and the US hardcourt series.

Nalbandian was another good player on his day. He still gives top players trouble today even though he's not as fit and his career has been wrecked by injuries. I think his H2H vs Rafa actually proves that. He was a good player on his day and could have won a couple of GS if it weren't for the injuries. The talent is there, though, and his victories over many good players proves that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:22:58 PM
I'll never get into a game of tennis again to the extent I got into that Ivanisevic-Rafter final. Was literally kneeling on the floor in front of the TV for the match point when he won it, I'd always rooted for him at Wimbledon and it looked like his time had passed before his run that year. One of my favorite moments watching sport, was a f***ing immense match and the atmosphere was magnificent too.

In terms of sheer quality of tennis Federer and Nadal's five setter was obviously head and shoulders above it, but Goran winning will always be my favorite.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:26:17 PM
I'll never get into a game of tennis again to the extent I got into that Ivanisevic-Rafter final. Was literally kneeling on the floor in front of the TV for the match point when he won it, I'd always rooted for him at Wimbledon and it looked like his time had passed before his run that year. One of my favorite moments watching sport, was a f***ing immense match and the atmosphere was magnificent too.

In terms of sheer quality of tennis Federer and Nadal's five setter was obviously head and shoulders above it, but Goran winning will always be my favorite.

The whole of England wanted Goran to win that final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:29:56 PM
The serve and volley style wasn't fun to watch but at least there was variety in the game, which is certainly lacking today. The only top guy that serves and volleys well and regularly right now is Federer and even his volleying technique is unorthodox.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:31:38 PM
Henman is still one of the best Volleyer's I've seen actually.  Shame the rest of his was very average.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:37:29 PM
Henman would be s*** if he played today because the ball would be past him by the time he reached the net. It's a fast game today. Fun to watch, yes; exciting, yes; great, 20+ shot rallies, yes; but not amenable to a serve & volley game.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 12 June 2011, 04:51:18 PM
Henman would be s*** if he played today because the ball would be past him by the time he reached the net. It's a fast game today. Fun to watch, yes; exciting, yes; great, 20+ shot rallies, yes; but not amenable to a serve & volley game.

The game today is just more varied. Being one dimensional and very good at it no longer yields as much success as it did before. There are more passing shots now as more players are opting to play from the baseline and defend but serve and volley can be effective against that strategy as it cuts down the time the defensive players want to be able to chase the ball down. You won't see it every point but the likes of Federer will be mixing serve and volley into his attacking arsenal for Wimbledon in a couple of weeks time.

I think the problem comes when players want to approach the net a few shots into a rally. The passing shot is devastatingly effective if they don't play a strong shot prior to their approach as it can be very difficult to narrow the angle quickly enough.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 12 June 2011, 05:06:09 PM
I think we have a different definition of varied. I think the top players today can play every shot in the book, which makes matches between them fun to watch. But most of them have the same style now. Most of the top players are almost exclusively baseline players. You don't get anymore serve and volleyers (Fed goes to the net maybe 20 or 30 times a match, which is less than ten times a set, or less than once a game), you don't even get the big servers now because players are able to stand far behind the baseline when returning because the rackets and strings makes it easier to generate power, spin and accuracy.

Like I said, it makes for better viewing, and it's easy now to have the impression that players of today are better, but many of these baseliners would get smashed off the court ten years ago by the good s&vs, like the s&vs get passed off the court today. Players like del Potro would have a lot of trouble playing against the Ivanisevics, Rafters and even Henmans of the tennis world ten years ago because he wouldn't have time to set himself to hit his baseline shots and he wouldn't be able to generate as much power as he does today because the rackets (bigger racket head today) and strings are different. The game is very different now so it's hard to compare eras. My original point was that you can't underrate the players of 10 years ago just because their style was successful then and unsuccessful now. The game's changed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 05:17:46 PM
Excellent post pip. More or less what i was alluding to without the eloquance haha.

Wimbledon started to slow down a lot when they changed the soil around 2000 and seems to have got slower year on year. Obviously to accommodate more baseline rallies, but that was a plus point in my opinion. We get that everywhere now, it can be turgid at times. Nevertheless it's still much faster than the French or the Australian, which in my opinion, makes Nadal all the more remarkable a player, particularly for winning the US, not so much Wimbledon because of the changes. If we'd have seen him Win on a grass surface  that was around in 2002 and before, nowadays, it would be a phenomenal achievement.

I don't think he overestimates the quality of the top 4 today but certainly vastly underrates the quality of tennis at the 03 mark.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 06:53:27 PM
Ronaldo, we don't have 4 or 5 great players, though. Murray's not a great player. He's mentally weak. He's won a few Masters titles but that's it. His resume is pretty limited. He's got talent but just hasn't followed that up, and that's the story with many other players of past eras. A few guys like Coria and Ferrero could have had better careers. The fact that Federer can still consistently make the semis and finals of big tournaments reflects badly on the quality of the men's game today because Federer is obviously not the player he once was (he's a step slower in general, but two steps slower when he moves to his right). I think Federer's the greatest of all time, but it's his intelligence that's keeping him in contention today. At his peak he was the best mover I've ever seen on a tennis court. Everyone except Rafa should feel pretty badly about their own game because they can't match a declining Federer. With the exception of Djokovic this year, no one has really challenged the top two players, so I'm not sure why you think the quality of the men's game today is better than it was. The style of play has certainly changed, though. Every top player has an all-round game, and I think that makes for better viewing, which is why people might get the impression that the quality is better today. But that's an evolution based on how the courts have changed as well as development of equipment. The grass at Wimbledon is slow, the hardcourts at certain Masters are slower than they were and the technological development in equipment has made it easier to stand back and thump the ball.

I think you're seriously overestimating the quality of the players today and at the same underestimating the quality of the players of past eras.

Roddick's a decent player. His resume is actually better than Murray's. He was a good player in his day; a limited one, yes, but one who was tough to beat on his day and on his court. Hell, he beat Murray two years ago at Wimbledon, playing some great tennis. He had the talent but I think losing so often to Federer killed him. Peak Roddick would beat the Murray of today and would give Rafa trouble on grass and the US hardcourt series.

Nalbandian was another good player on his day. He still gives top players trouble today even though he's not as fit and his career has been wrecked by injuries. I think his H2H vs Rafa actually proves that. He was a good player on his day and could have won a couple of GS if it weren't for the injuries. The talent is there, though, and his victories over many good players proves that.

He's 5 years older than Murray, man. Murray's done far more than Roddick since turning pro. He's twice the player.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TêteDeMaure on Sunday 12 June 2011, 07:43:10 PM
So you say Roddick won his grand slam because nobody else was there to win it.

If by some freak occurrence of injuries, say Nolle, Rafa and Rog pulled out of a grand slam and Murray was to win. Would u say the same of him? Nah you wouldn't.

I may go abit OTT on my dislike of Murray as a personality (not his ability) but your total overestimation of him is equally as bad.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 12 June 2011, 08:50:06 PM
Murray's reached the final 4 in all 4 grand slams at least once in the last 3 years. He's a far better player than Andy f***ing Roddick, and far more worthy of a GS.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 12 June 2011, 08:54:31 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157626893308376/

For anyone interested I added another hundred or so shots to my Roland Garros gallery that I uploaded last week. Some nice close ups from the early morning training sessions and general shots of the two main courts.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 13 June 2011, 03:14:49 PM
Murray on the brink of winning.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 13 June 2011, 03:40:46 PM

I said Wimbeldon... not Queen's. Wimbeldon, Okay? Hah huh he-heh.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T0IdAE5wZF4/SkBjEyu6KII/AAAAAAAAAyQ/jz9GAF54l_c/s400/gil01.gif)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 13 June 2011, 04:08:36 PM
Roddick hasn't done s*** since 2006, though, mate.

He has done f*** all after 25. You can see it in his win %.

Anyway, career wise, at the same age, roddick has more on his resume. More titles, more gs (only one, but still), a better overall win % (which I would say is unaffected by how good the top players are because you have to beat so many middling players before playing the top players, so a higher win % means being better and doing it consistently).

Roddick dropped off after 25 for a variety of reasons but I would say that it's actually quite common for tennis players to decline in their late 20s because the timing goes first and you can't play your game anymore. Guys like Federer are really exceptions. In general, I'd say tennis players have a peak period of 22-27, then it'a downhill from there. That doesn't leave Murray with much time to make his mark given how Djokovic has improved and the fact that with nadal slightly declining and federer well into decline, they would still be favourites to beat Murray in a major grand slam match.

It would actually be great for tennis overall if Murray won wimbledon. I would rather him than any of the top 4, for the benefit of tennis objectively. But obviously I'm a massive fed guy so I hope he steamrolls everyone to #17.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 13 June 2011, 06:25:07 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157626893308376/

For anyone interested I added another hundred or so shots to my Roland Garros gallery that I uploaded last week. Some nice close ups from the early morning training sessions and general shots of the two main courts.

Good pics, but none of the king? :nope:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 13 June 2011, 08:32:46 PM
I've never seen Rafa play live which is the only reason why I've no shots of him. I have a ticket for the Wimbledon Men's Final though so fingers crossed I'll get my chance in just over a fortnight.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 17 June 2011, 10:24:37 AM
Wimbledon draw- Nadal and Federer on course for Semi, Djokovic and Murray in other half.

ALSO

Isner Vs Mahut will play again in  first round.


Edit: Official Wimbledon webiste says the above, everywhere else seem to think it is Murray and Nadal, Fed and Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 11:55:48 AM
Same semi line-up as the French.

Nadal will get Del Potro early.

Murray has a cakewalk until Wawrinka and Gasquet in the 4th round. He's had 5 setters against both of them in Wimbledon, beating Wawrinka and losing to Gasquet. If he's able to make it through, he'll have Monfils in the QF, which should be more comfortable because of the surface.

I hope I'm not jinxing him, but Federer will coast to the semis. He's got Tsonga, Ferrer and maybe Nalbandian that can give him some trouble, and most will be routine 3 setters on grass. Maybe Dolgopolov will surprise a few people and make it through to the QFs, but his favourite surface is definitely not grass.

Djokovic has Baghdatis, Davydenko and Soderling in his quarter. He should be fine against all of them, but maybe Baghdatis will rise to the occasion and show some of his previous grasscourt form.

Fed and Djokovic probably have the easiest draw until the semis where they'll meet. Rafa, apart from Del Potro, has Berdych in the QFs. It's quite a dangerous draw for him. Rafa will also get Andujar, who gave him a lot of trouble at the French, in round 2.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:01:19 PM
Isner vs Mahut in Round 1 :lol:

Good stuff.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:01:36 PM
He beat Gasquet in 5 aswell btw. From 2 sets down.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:02:16 PM
Forgot about Roddick. He's in Murray's quarter. If Murray survives Wawrinka/Gasquet then he gets Monfils/Roddick. It's a tough draw.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:06:15 PM
He beat Gasquet in 5 aswell btw. From 2 sets down.

Yeah, true. I'm not sure why I got that wrong.

It's a tough draw for Murray. I don't think he has a chance against Rafa if they meet in the semis, but maybe the crowd and the fact that he would be a massive underdog might help him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:12:09 PM
Isner vs Mahut in Round 1 :lol:

Good stuff.

Clearly fixed. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:22:48 PM
Murray won't lose any sleep over facing Roddick, he's having an awful year due to fitness and generally getting on, Murray hammered him at Queen's. Cilic is a big worry though if he finds his form. Wawrinka lost in round 1 last year and got done by Ward at Queen's, so he might feel he has a point to prove. Gasquet on his day is outstanding and is generally very usfeful on grass.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:31:50 PM
Gasquet has slowly returned to form. It should be a good tournament, anyway.

I hope Federer has one more great two-week run in him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:35:30 PM
We could be set for the top 4 in the sem's again. Should be a cracker.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:37:27 PM
Murray should fear no one on grass tbh.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:39:30 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:40:34 PM
Murray should fear no one on grass tbh.

No one should fear him on grass either.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:43:00 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

But he's beaten all 3 of them before, not on grass I take that point but he's beaten them. Hard courts are his best surface but he's still very good on the grass courts, he really should be going in with confidence, he's comfortably better than anyone ranked below him imo and shouldn't have any problems.

The obvious question is whether he can finally beat two of the other top 4 back to back in a GS Semi and Final, instead of just winning the Semi and wilting in the Final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:43:24 PM
Murray should fear no one on grass tbh.

No one should fear him on grass either.

Anyone outside of the Top 4 should.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: neesy111 on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:43:28 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

Novak has done f*** all on Grass so far in his career. 
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:43:35 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

But he's beaten all 3 of them before, not on grass I take that point but he's beaten them. Hard courts are his best surface but he's still very good on the grass courts, he really should be going in with confidence, he's comfortably better than anyone ranked below him imo and shouldn't have any problems.

The obvious question is whether he can finally beat two of the other top 4 back to back in a GS Semi and Final, instead of just winning the Semi and wilting in the Final.

If he has to of course?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:52:16 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

Novak has done f*** all on Grass so far in his career. 

Two semis at wimbledon and a quarter each. That's the same to me.

And Novak has made two other grass finals which lost, while Murray has made two and won both at Queens. Not a big difference.

Novak will be heavily favoured if they end up meeting just because of how confident he's hitting the ball now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Friday 17 June 2011, 12:58:18 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

But he's beaten all 3 of them before, not on grass I take that point but he's beaten them. Hard courts are his best surface but he's still very good on the grass courts, he really should be going in with confidence, he's comfortably better than anyone ranked below him imo and shouldn't have any problems.

The obvious question is whether he can finally beat two of the other top 4 back to back in a GS Semi and Final, instead of just winning the Semi and wilting in the Final.

If he has to of course?

Of course, can't see anyone other than Tsonga or Del Potro capable of causing a shock though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 17 June 2011, 01:17:00 PM
He's the worst out of the top 4 on grass.

But he's beaten all 3 of them before, not on grass I take that point but he's beaten them. Hard courts are his best surface but he's still very good on the grass courts, he really should be going in with confidence, he's comfortably better than anyone ranked below him imo and shouldn't have any problems.

The obvious question is whether he can finally beat two of the other top 4 back to back in a GS Semi and Final, instead of just winning the Semi and wilting in the Final.

If he has to of course?

Of course, can't see anyone other than Tsonga or Del Potro capable of causing a shock though.

Karlovic who is in the Murray 1/4 is a always a danger because of his massive serve. If he's firing it can be difficult to get into rallies against him. He's up against Tipsarevic in the first round. Could put out a few high profile players and get through a few rounds. Equally he could be absolutely rotten and lose in straight sets to Tipsarevic.

Would like to see Djokovic vs Soderling as well. Nice hard hitting contest for a quarter final if both get that far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 17 June 2011, 02:26:26 PM
Forgot about Roddick. He's in Murray's quarter. If Murray survives Wawrinka/Gasquet then he gets Monfils/Roddick. It's a tough draw.

Not really. He avoids Nadal and Fed till the final/sf.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Friday 17 June 2011, 02:30:18 PM
He beat Gasquet in 5 aswell btw. From 2 sets down.
:(
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 17 June 2011, 02:32:41 PM
Karlovic is the type of player Murray eats up. Return his serve and you win. Murray is very good at returning said serve.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 8 August 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Draw for Montreal is out. Fed and Djokovic in the same half.

Tournament starts today. Cincy next week, then the US Open two weeks after that.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 10 August 2011, 11:27:08 AM
Murray out in the first round.

Lost 6-1 6-3 against Kevin Anderson.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Wednesday 10 August 2011, 11:30:01 AM
Murray out in the first round.

Lost 6-1 6-3 against Kevin Anderson.

Looked like he wasn't bothered about it. Massive number of double faults including three in one game towards the end. While it does cost him around 1000 ranking points he'd be better saving his energies for the US Open. It's a long month with Canada and then the heat of Cincinnati before even getting to New York.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Wednesday 10 August 2011, 11:31:01 AM
Murray out in the first round.

Lost 6-1 6-3 against Kevin Anderson.

Looked like he wasn't bothered about it. Massive number of double faults including three in one game towards the end. While it does cost him around 1000 ranking points he'd be better saving his energies for the US Open. It's a long month with Canada and then the heat of Cincinnati before even getting to New York.

Aye, i think the top players would all settle for a decent run in one of them, before the start of the US open.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Wednesday 10 August 2011, 11:45:05 AM
It's an interesting month because you don't want to play your best tennis in Canada and Cincinnati and be left running on empty in New York. The Western & Southern Masters is horribly placed on the calendar as it is a real tough week out in the heat. While there is a rest week before the US Open I doubt many fancy an extended run out there.

The worry for Andy Murray at this stage is that he hasn't won a 'proper' game on a hard court surface since he beat David Ferrer in the semi finals of the Australian Open. He lost in the first round in Rotterdam and failed to progress beyond the second round (his entry round) at both Indian Wells and Miami.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Thursday 11 August 2011, 03:53:39 AM
Nadal just lost in 3 to Dodig!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:01:15 PM
Murray a break up in this final already!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:01:54 PM
Federer lost so easily to Berdych in the QFs. I'm worried.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:08:29 PM
Murray must be edging back towards being world no.3?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:10:26 PM
Federer lost so easily to Berdych in the QFs. I'm worried.

About what, a 30-year-old tennis player with 16 slams?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:29:27 PM
What an amazing rally just there, Murray breaks again.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 21 August 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Murray a set and break up against Djokovic.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: SUPERTOON on Sunday 21 August 2011, 07:01:32 PM
Make that a double break.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Sunday 21 August 2011, 07:04:57 PM
Djokovic retires. Murray wins.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 21 August 2011, 07:56:29 PM
Go out and win the US Open, man.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 22 August 2011, 12:42:45 PM
Murray must be edging back towards being world no.3?

There are 1845 points between Murray and Federer now. He rubbish last year at the US Open so there's a chance to close the gap a bit. Federer's points are also heavily stacked towards his performances in the final quarter of last year so there is the possibility to them being close come the ATP World Tour Finals.

It will be interesting to see who makes up the eight places at that event. The current top 4 should all be there but after that it becomes very tight.

Ferrer and Soderling should both make it although the Swede has 1000 points to defend in Paris.
Monfils is the most likely of the current top 8 not to be in London as he has final appearances in Paris and Tokyo to defend as well as the need to win the 250 event in Montpellier again.
Mardy Fish should be there after a fantastic season. He didn't play either of the 1000 level events at Shanghai or Paris last year so any points he gains can only add to what he has.
Berdych currently sits 9th and again he doesn't have much to defend after a poor end to last season so any results are going to push him up the standings.
It's even more open with anyone from 10-13 in with a shout. Tsonga is another who didn't play the US Open last year or the 1000 level at Paris so a little run of form could land him in the top 8.
There's also the possibility of Del Potro getting a good draw and putting together a strong challenge. He missed all of last season so his points total can only go upwards.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: cp40 on Monday 22 August 2011, 07:01:54 PM
anybody know of any coucil/ leisure centre courts in hexham?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 04:33:47 PM
Anyone been to the US Open? In NY for the first few days of it, but from what I can see there are only tickets available for 2 stadiums.

Is that normal? Never been to a tennis tournament, assumed you would just be able to buy day tickets or something and then just wander round to wherever you fancy, not be restricted to a specific tickets in a specific stadium?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 04:37:01 PM
Anyone been to the US Open? In NY for the first few days of it, but from what I can see there are only tickets available for 2 stadiums.

Is that normal? Never been to a tennis tournament, assumed you would just be able to buy day tickets or something and then just wander round to wherever you fancy, not be restricted to a specific tickets in a specific stadium?

AFAIK, you can do that on the outisde courts but not for the centre court and 1st court.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 04:43:24 PM
Anyone been to the US Open? In NY for the first few days of it, but from what I can see there are only tickets available for 2 stadiums.

Is that normal? Never been to a tennis tournament, assumed you would just be able to buy day tickets or something and then just wander round to wherever you fancy, not be restricted to a specific tickets in a specific stadium?

AFAIK, you can do that on the outisde courts but not for the centre court and 1st court.

ah right so I would have to pay both if I wanted to see any of the big names on the main courts. I'll have a look at the days/schedule etc and figure out which to go for
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Stu on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 04:54:53 PM
Anyone been to the US Open? In NY for the first few days of it, but from what I can see there are only tickets available for 2 stadiums.

Is that normal? Never been to a tennis tournament, assumed you would just be able to buy day tickets or something and then just wander round to wherever you fancy, not be restricted to a specific tickets in a specific stadium?

AFAIK, you can do that on the outisde courts but not for the centre court and 1st court.

ah right so I would have to pay both if I wanted to see any of the big names on the main courts. I'll have a look at the days/schedule etc and figure out which to go for

Yeah, usually if you go on Day 1/2 you can see a couple of the big name players on the outer courts (not top4 usually), as the week goes on, your best bet to see them will be doubles, etc.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 06:55:14 PM
Anyone been to the US Open? In NY for the first few days of it, but from what I can see there are only tickets available for 2 stadiums.

Is that normal? Never been to a tennis tournament, assumed you would just be able to buy day tickets or something and then just wander round to wherever you fancy, not be restricted to a specific tickets in a specific stadium?

AFAIK, you can do that on the outisde courts but not for the centre court and 1st court.

ah right so I would have to pay both if I wanted to see any of the big names on the main courts. I'll have a look at the days/schedule etc and figure out which to go for

Yeah, usually if you go on Day 1/2 you can see a couple of the big name players on the outer courts (not top4 usually), as the week goes on, your best bet to see them will be doubles, etc.

The US Open is a little different to the other Grand Slams. I believe that if you have a ticket for Arthur Ashe then you are also permitted access to the Louis Armstrong stadium as well. The same does not work the other way round though. As per usual the schedule of play doesn't appear until the night before therefore you can't really plan ahead. Normal practice is to alternate the big players between the top two courts so that nobody is permitted to play all their matches throughout the tournament on the one court. Therefore you should see the top players playing on the Louis Armstrong court at some point in the early stages. A ticket for that court would entitle you to watch matches on the Grandstand court as well which should see the likes of David Ferrer and Robin Soderling.

They are also opening a new 2,500+ seat Court 17 this year so imagine there'll be some good games on that court as it will be the 4th biggest in the complex and it is setup for TV cameras.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Tuesday 23 August 2011, 07:06:40 PM
Just been an earthquake there apparently!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 29 August 2011, 07:20:13 PM
Laura Robson through to 2nd Round of US Open after her opponent retired with injury. Robson was a set and a break up anyway tbf.

:thup: and :fwap:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: MW on Monday 29 August 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Think I'm going Wednesday
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Monday 29 August 2011, 10:39:50 PM
Neesy thinks Murray has a "genuine chance", shock horror. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 29 August 2011, 11:01:55 PM
Neesy thinks Murray has a "genuine chance", shock horror. :lol:

Still managed to spell his name wrong like.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 29 August 2011, 11:02:38 PM
Unlucky Heather Watson, pushed Sharapova all the way.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ash on Tuesday 30 August 2011, 03:55:00 AM
Think I'm going Wednesday

Might see you there. :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Wednesday 31 August 2011, 07:30:15 PM
Robson out in 2nd Round :(

Anyway, f*** deadline day, there is some great stuff being played in the Murray-Devvarman match right now. :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Wednesday 31 August 2011, 09:31:54 PM
Nothing more than expected from Devvarman. Strong start but eventually got blown away.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 2 September 2011, 09:28:42 AM
Interesting first few days with some big stories already.

Mens Draw

Womens Draw

Action to Watch
Mens:
2nd Round: Andy Roddick (21) vs Jack Sock
All American contest with Roddick starting to fall down the rankings up against relative newcomer Jack Sock. The youngster has been near the top of the junior game and will have a chance here to really raise his profile on home soil against the former champion and long time US number 1.

3rd Round: Jo Wilfried Tsonga (11) vs Fernando Verdasco (19)
The hugely popular Tsonga lit up the backpages with his performances at Queens and Wimbledon over the summer. He's not quite as hot on the hard surface though. Verdasco on the other hand is starting to find his game again. He is a former top 10 player but lost his way early in the season where he struggled to win a match. The Spaniard had a good run at the US Open last year and is a fighter so I'm expecting a good battle.

Womens:
Victoria Azarenka (4) vs Serena Williams (28)
The seedings aren't kidding anyone here. Serena returned just ahead of Wimbledon but looked vulernable however she has looked impressive since returning to the USA for the hardcourt season. Azarenka on the other hand has the game to win a grand slam and really put herself on the map by reaching the Wimbledon semi finals. Serena's power might just be too much for Azarenka here.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Friday 2 September 2011, 09:40:31 AM
Nice work O'Neill :thup: Really hope Azarenka beats Williams.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Friday 2 September 2011, 10:26:20 PM
Murray two sets down but a break up if anyone is interested!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Friday 2 September 2011, 10:28:26 PM
Murray was utter turd those first two sets, starting to turn it round now. Fairly sure he will win in 5.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 2 September 2011, 10:47:03 PM
Great day for American tennis.  :thup:

I'd like to see Haase win this, I grew a liking too him when he played Isner. Still doesn't look fully healthy, though.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Saturday 3 September 2011, 12:04:41 AM
Great day for American tennis.  :thup:

I'd like to see Haase win this, I grew a liking too him when he played Isner. Still doesn't look fully healthy, though.

Hasse reminded me of Dolgopolov in the Australian Open. Trying to take almost everything on and making use of his very strong forehand. The problem he had was that his backhand is absolutely awful and if he couldn't run round it he had nothing. I'm surprised a lot more guys aren't adopting this sort of all in strategy against the bigger players to be honest.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 4 September 2011, 09:34:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7mD_bbMr9I

:lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 4 September 2011, 09:38:45 PM
Rafa getting a blowy under the desk during a press conference, what a man.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Sunday 4 September 2011, 10:05:28 PM
Young wins again.  :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Sunday 4 September 2011, 10:11:20 PM
Damn. Murray is going to have a partisan home crowd to deal with if he gets past Lopez.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 4 September 2011, 11:43:32 PM
Quick update before the second week starts. Here is where we are at:

Mens Draw

Womens Draw

Action to Watch

Mens:
4th Round: Jo Wilfried Tsonga (11) vs Mardy Fish (8)
As popular as Tsonga is I doubt he'll get quite the sort of reception from the American crowd against Fish as he did from the British against Murray at Queens. This is going to be a battle of two in form players with Tsonga coming off the back of a great grass court season and Fish having his best year on the tour. The American is favoured not only because he is the home favourite because the hard court surface should suit his game more. A lot could depend on the Tsonga serve which when firing can win him a lot of free points and gives him the opportunity to serve and volley. Should be a great game.

4th Round: David Ferrer (5) vs Andy Roddick (21)
Roddick has been abysmal all year but is slowly starting to find his way again. Thus far he has been relatively unchallenged but he is unlikely to walkover David Ferrer like he did Jack Sock. The Spaniard gets little mention as he is often overshadowed by the achievements of countryman Rafael Nadal but Ferrer is a fantastic player in his own right. He lacks the power of many of the big hitters on tour but he makes up for it with his ability to engage in and win longer rallies. Ideally he's suited to the European clay court season but he usually makes a decent impression on the hard courts and will be looking to stick around until at least the quarter final stage. Roddick will have the crowd on his side and if he is serving well then look for this to be a good contest.

Womens:
Sabine Lisicki (22) vs Vera Zvonareva (2)
Lisicki is the hot new thing out of Germany and did well to reach the semi finals at Wimbledon after being out with injury which has seen her have to qualify for other grand slam events this year. Zvonareva has been to the final at the US Open before and is always something of a curious opponent as she plays a Murray like style where she'll run down the ball a lot and draw rallies out. It's not a common style of play in the women's game but it has seen her rise to number two in the world so it's clear effective. This will like come down to the power of Lisicki and whether she can thunder the ball beyond Zvonareva's defensive capabilities.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: QBG on Monday 5 September 2011, 02:03:26 AM
Murray is so many levels above Lopez its ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 5 September 2011, 09:43:31 AM
Murray is so many levels above Lopez its ridiculous.

Lopez started off playing the serve and volley tactics that saw him deal well with many opponents at Wimbledon. It's not really a fantastic strategy at the best of times on the quicker hard court surfaces but given that the palyers have been saying the courts feel slower this year I guess it has been effective for him.

The issues with Lopez's serve and volley strategy against Murray were that firstly Lopez didn't appear to be particularly good at volleying and secondly Murray plays some of the best passing shots in the game and will hit the ball low over the net making volleying very difficult.

I thought Lopez played a lot better in the second set when he stayed back from the net and played from the baseline more often. The problem he had there though was that Murray was able to retrieve most of his forehands and his one handed backhand was never going to cause any serious problems. He was a little unfortunate to lose the break towards the end of the set but that came as a consequence of his poor serving.

I think Lopez is one of these guys that has a fairly solid set of skills and a strategy that is fairly intimidating to play against meaning that on his day he can be dangerous but against the top players he'll be shut down quickly and have little to fall back on.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ginola on Monday 5 September 2011, 09:28:49 PM
Anyone watching the US Open? Great tie break going on between Djokovic and Dolgopolov at the moment. Just gone 14-13 to Dolgopolov.

EDIT: Djokovic took it, 16-14.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Monday 5 September 2011, 10:26:04 PM
got money on tsonga to win it all, so will trade out for profit when he beats fish.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Monday 5 September 2011, 10:35:50 PM
Can see Ferrer knocking out Nadal in the QF actually.

Djokovic-Dolgopolov has been a good match, the first set in particular was great.

A bit more consistency required from Dolgo and he'll be a top 10 player and challenging for Slams in no time.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Monday 5 September 2011, 10:51:05 PM
Dolgopolov is still a good bit away from being a top ten player. His shot selection is rather poor and he lacks the tactical intelligence of the top players. Both factors can be attributed to his coach who I feel isn't of the required standard to get him to the next level. His game is fairly well suited to the hard court surface but he relies heavily on scoring points with his big forehand and like many similar players when he runs out of ideas in a rally that's what he's looking for to bail him out of trouble. Often I feel he'd be better served not gambling on trying to hit the ball through the court but using his forehand to move his opponent around and then pick off the opportunity when his opponent leaves the ball short inside the baseline. There are too many occasions where he'll have a wild swing from behind the baseline which just leads to unforced errors.

If you look at the match tonight he had almost twice as many unforced errors as Djokovic. A little more patience in his play and just playing more rally balls to keep the point going and I think he'd be a much stronger player.

Tsonga and Fish are playing on Arthur Ashe at the moment. 1 set each, cracking game. There really is nothing in it.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Monday 5 September 2011, 11:09:09 PM
If the likes of Almagro and Melzer can get into the top 10, then so can he.

Agree about the coach issue. He's still only 22 so has a bit of time to improve on the tactical side. He has all the ingredients to make it though and isn't perhaps so much of a 'ball-basher' as some of his contemporaries are.

Ouch, a ballboy just got whacked in the eye by a Tsonga serve.

Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 10 September 2011, 07:26:20 PM
Going to be great viewing the next few hours.  :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 10 September 2011, 07:28:27 PM
Roger :smitten:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 10 September 2011, 07:32:11 PM
Great point there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 08:54:48 PM
They're both f***ing class :smitten:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 09:05:29 PM
Djokovic is hitting that "untouchable" form.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 09:56:23 PM
f***ing HELL.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 09:56:50 PM
Djokovic smiling, while looking down the barrel of defeat. Absolute class.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 10 September 2011, 09:59:50 PM
This is INCREDIBLE stuff
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:00:17 PM
That forehand in the ninth.

My word.

More exciting than football at times, it must be said.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: gbandit on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:06:22 PM
Wish Djokovic would keel over, the prick. Want to see Nadal trash Murray up then feed Federer's ass to him on Monday. Nice.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:08:00 PM
Incredible.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:08:56 PM
Amazing. Majors never disappoint. Incredible match.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: gbandit on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:14:05 PM
No class man, that kid's got no class
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:15:05 PM
:clap: Absolute class acts, the pair of them. So f***ing good.

Loved Djokovic's response after saving the first match point:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/4257881014_0739b120d6.jpg)

Then the smile.

Excellent. Just excellent.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: nufc4eva on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:15:55 PM
He has been f***ing unbelievable this year. Nadal v djokovic final again. Can't believe I missed most the match, looks like I switched on at right time 5-4 down
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:16:45 PM
That was the final for me. :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:26:59 PM
That forehand in the ninth.

My word.

More exciting than football at times, it must be said.

:thup: Indeed. Very underrated is Tennis.

This Sky presenter has aged really badly in recent years.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Saturday 10 September 2011, 10:41:46 PM
Will be a repeat of last year's final however l can see it going the other way this year, Novak's a machine this year!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Saturday 10 September 2011, 11:23:31 PM
Nadal showing class. Murray showing signs of mental instability :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alexf on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:06:20 AM
always talking to himself after points.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:11:41 AM
Straight sets this like, guaranteed! Rafa's got at least another couple of gears to go.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:13:29 AM
Murray looks out of ideas already. Just can't compete.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:17:37 AM
I think Murray's a great player and clearly in the top four in the world, but I just never fancy him against the other three. When any of Federer, Nadal or Djokovic play each other I'm unsure who will win, but with Murray I always think he's unlikely to win. They're all just that level above him.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:26:03 AM
Wonder if he'll come back from two sets down like Djokovic :shifty:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:34:44 AM
f*** sake
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: alexf on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:40:10 AM
what a rally to break. Nadal is incredible in defence.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 11 September 2011, 12:44:35 AM
:no:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ashley17 on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:14:14 AM
Serve it out this time for f*** sake
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:30:51 AM
Murray would be class if that darn net wasn't there.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:32:22 AM
5 setter  :frantic:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: ChrisMcQuillan on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:32:30 AM
I think Murray's a great player and clearly in the top four in the world, but I just never fancy him against the other three. When any of Federer, Nadal or Djokovic play each other I'm unsure who will win, but with Murray I always think he's unlikely to win. They're all just that level above him.

Very true that.

Murray is miles beyond Henman, he's just damned unlucky that three of the best players in the history of the game are up against him.

The British press will probably crucify him for being unable to win a Grand Slam, but when you consider rising standards in the game, he's probably our Britain's best ever player.  
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:39:18 AM
I still think he'll win one, he's consistenly making the semis.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:48:32 AM
I think Murray's a great player and clearly in the top four in the world, but I just never fancy him against the other three. When any of Federer, Nadal or Djokovic play each other I'm unsure who will win, but with Murray I always think he's unlikely to win. They're all just that level above him.

It's all in his inability to serve. His first serve is very good when it goes in but it doesn't land in the service box anywhere near enough times to be an asset to his game. Therefore he is reliant on his second serve. An analysis of points won on second serve this year has him down below 60th on the tour in terms of number of points won on the second serve. It's a very weak and predictable serve which works fine against lower ranked players but the good players know that it's going into the centre of the service box with very little kick. Guys with a strong second serve are comfortable in putting a little direction on it and either added kick or swerve to make it tougher to return.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 01:49:01 AM
Nadal breaks.

Pretty much match over.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 02:01:17 AM
Howay man Andy. I want to go to bed man.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: JH on Sunday 11 September 2011, 02:10:26 AM
Game over. Nadal in't final.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Sunday 11 September 2011, 02:16:31 AM
Murray is silly
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: chicago_shearer on Sunday 11 September 2011, 03:58:34 AM
I still think he'll win one, he's consistenly making the semis.

He'll fluke one eventually when Novak slips up and Nadal's knees finally go.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 11 September 2011, 09:33:52 AM
And l hope he does. He's one of only seven players to reach the semis in all four slams in a season. Always the bridesmaid!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:47:30 PM
Serena going nuts :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ginola on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:51:06 PM
Aye, throwing her toys out of the pram big time. Hope she loses.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:58:30 PM
Was that a 'Come on Venus' from the crowd? :troll: :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:58:57 PM
Cmon Sam! Aussie Aussie Aussie!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 11 September 2011, 10:59:57 PM
Yeah, totally want Stosur to win.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:01:54 PM
Match point come on!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ginola on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:04:26 PM
Well in Stosur, lass!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:04:44 PM
Get in!!!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:05:05 PM
 :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

Sam Stosur you beast!
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Magpie on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:05:08 PM
Williams' box HAHAHA
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:05:20 PM
p*ssed with that. Put a tenner on Stosur and 888sport haven't registered it :( Must have timed out when the odds changed or something. :angry:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Sunday 11 September 2011, 11:14:39 PM
f*** off with the pro American/Serena s***.

Serena claiming conspiracy over the shot  :idiot2:

I wonder if the American chick who said "your cheque for 1.8 million dollars, thats 1.8 million US dollars" realises the Aussie dollars worth more than the US dollar  :snod:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Monday 12 September 2011, 10:38:18 PM
Nadal done on a time violation :)
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Monday 12 September 2011, 10:39:38 PM
Break back! WHAT A f***ing BREAK BACK. f*** him Djokovic :celb:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Monday 12 September 2011, 10:41:28 PM
Nadal's cuntishness coming to the fore "You going to give me another time warning because the crowd are making noise". No more stalling, son.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:15:23 AM
This is a f***ing fantastic set.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:35:00 AM
Not real a massive tenis fan like but this is class, could watch it all night tbh.

That point about 10 minutes ago was sublime
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:40:51 AM
Laughably high standard.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:44:12 AM
Arms must be stinging to f***. Class stuff.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:46:25 AM
The first 2 and a half sets was awful viewing on a personal level.

If Rafa somehow comes back here, I'm going to cry for weeks.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 12:49:07 AM
Want to bet on Nadal to win but b365 won't load.  :angry:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:17:33 AM
All over now.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:23:00 AM
Dissapointing final set like, Nadal looks like he cannot be arsed anymore
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:24:25 AM
f*** off Ali. :thup:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:27:24 AM
f*** off Ali. :thup:

Cheers, mate.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:33:08 AM
Want to bet on Nadal to win but b365 won't load.  :angry:

Cheers bet365 mate.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 01:54:36 AM
Greatest year in tennis history for Novak. Incredible.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Mr. Snrub on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 02:00:05 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/128036_Rafaelnadal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/128036_Rafaelnadal)

Class.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 02:05:08 AM
Greatest year in tennis history for Novak. Incredible.

Certainly Novak's best year by far.

Nowhere near the greatest year in tennis history for a player if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 03:23:54 AM
Give me a better one. And don't give me any crap about Federer in 2004, dominating the likes of Hewitt and Roddick.

2 defeats, man. 3 slams.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 06:11:37 AM
Give me a better one. And don't give me any crap about Federer in 2004, dominating the likes of Hewitt and Roddick.

2 defeats, man. 3 slams.

Rod Laver in 1967 and 69
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 06:46:27 AM
Think you've got your dates mixed up. Even so, who was Laver competing with that compared to the world no. 2 and 3 of this era? Not to mention the increased physicality that brings another huge obstacle to Novak's feat. 2 defeats out of around 67 in 8 months, man.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: sydneycove on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 07:14:54 AM
Think you've got your dates mixed up. Even so, who was Laver competing with that compared to the world no. 2 and 3 of this era? Not to mention the increased physicality that brings another huge obstacle to Novak's feat. 2 defeats out of around 67 in 8 months, man.

Pancho Gonzalez for starters. 1969 was the year Laver did the Grand Slam he won all of his 26 games at the Grand Slam Tournaments. Easily a much more amazing year than anyone has ever had.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 09:09:42 AM
Ronaldo is right, Djokovic has had the greatest year ever and there's never been a higher standard of tennis played.

As a huge Nadal fan, I've never felt so powerless.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 10:15:35 AM
Nadal is too intent on forcing his game upon Djokovic in the hope that chasing down every ball and getting it back into play is suddenly going to start working. You would think that after two or three losses that he'd identify there is a problem with his standard strategy and look to change a few things in order to give Djokovic something new to deal with.

Clearly Djokovic has Nadal's number with respect to Nadal's current game and the Spaniard needs to go away and have a look at the tapes and come back with something new. Both Federer (Roland Garros, US Open) and Murray (Rome, Cincinnati) have come closer to toppling Djokovic this year despite the fact both struggle against Nadal. Maybe Rafa can look at what they have been doing for some inspiration.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Beren on Tuesday 13 September 2011, 10:54:54 AM
Nadal is too intent on forcing his game upon Djokovic in the hope that chasing down every ball and getting it back into play is suddenly going to start working. You would think that after two or three losses that he'd identify there is a problem with his standard strategy and look to change a few things in order to give Djokovic something new to deal with.

Clearly Djokovic has Nadal's number with respect to Nadal's current game and the Spaniard needs to go away and have a look at the tapes and come back with something new. Both Federer (Roland Garros, US Open) and Murray (Rome, Cincinnati) have come closer to toppling Djokovic this year despite the fact both struggle against Nadal. Maybe Rafa can look at what they have been doing for some inspiration.

Rafa doesn't have the shots Federer has. He has monster athleticism - which overawes and often intimidates his other opponents (including those with better tennis ability). If he wants to topple Djokovic, he's going to have to become a better tennis player - could be the best thing for him in terms of his development, but I'm not confident he is capable of getting to the next stage of being able to hit winners consistently or with the same range as Federer/Djokovic or even a Soderling (when he's on form).
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 9 October 2011, 11:05:36 AM
It's only the Japan Open, but he's beat Nadal 3-6, 6-2, 6-0 this morning, Nadal only winning 4 points in the last set. Impressive.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Flip on Sunday 9 October 2011, 11:23:56 AM
And Berdych won China Open against Cilic after also turning it around from one set down.

This China and Japan Open have helped grow £5 into £45. Good stuff favourites went far.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: O'Neill on Friday 14 October 2011, 02:09:18 PM
The Asian series has been a little disappointing with Djokovic and Federer both on the shelf and Nadal struggling for form. The Shanghai Masters is supposed to be the pinnacle of this little stretch on the tour but so many of the top players have fallen early meaning that the last eight is hardly packed with star power. Andy Murray is still going and David Ferrer is still there in the other half of the draw but Nadal was blown away by Florian Mayer yesterday while the likes of Tsonga, Berdych, Fish and other hopefuls looking to make it the O2 this year all exited in the early rounds. The only thing that's saving the tournament right now is that Japanese player, Kei Nishikori has reached the semi finals making him, I believe, the best Japanese player of the Open era.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Friday 14 October 2011, 03:33:12 PM
I'm happy there have been a few surprises, don't understand why that makes it disappointing. Does everyone really want to see Nadal, Djokovic and Federer play each other for eternity?
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 14 October 2011, 03:34:44 PM
I'm happy there have been a few surprises, don't understand why that makes it disappointing. Does everyone really want to see Nadal, Djokovic and Federer play each other for eternity?

Yes.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Friday 14 October 2011, 03:38:18 PM
Well then, you're the tennis equivalent of a Man Utd fan. Be ashamed.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 14 October 2011, 03:47:35 PM
Well then, you're the tennis equivalent of a Man Utd fan. Be ashamed.

Not really, I'm the tennis equivalent of wanting to see Barcelona v Real Madrid in the Champions League final, and Hamilton v Alonso v Vettel in a proper title race, and Woods, Westwood, McIlroy and Donald fighting out a major.

Oh wait, I want all those things. :sweetjesus:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Friday 14 October 2011, 05:53:08 PM
Westwood will never win a major.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Friday 14 October 2011, 06:47:28 PM
Westwood will never win a major.

Did I say he would? :hunter:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Dave on Sunday 16 October 2011, 11:32:25 AM
It's only the Japan Open, but he's beat Nadal 3-6, 6-2, 6-0 this morning, Nadal only winning 4 points in the last set. Impressive.

Just won the Shanghai Masters. Third in the world rankings.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Shak on Sunday 16 October 2011, 11:36:32 AM
Shocking choices for the golfers.

Aside from Woods they have one major between them. :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 16 October 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Shocking choices for the golfers.

Aside from Woods they have one major between them. :lol:

Top golfers in the world though...
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 5 November 2011, 04:05:24 PM
Djokovic just got bagelled by Nishikori in Basel.

Federer's 2006 still comfortably better than Djok's 2011 imo.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 5 November 2011, 04:16:28 PM
Djokovic just got bagelled by Nishikori in Basel.

Federer's 2006 still comfortably better than Djok's 2011 imo.

What a load of nonsense.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 5 November 2011, 04:24:18 PM
It's not comfortably better than Djokovic's 2011; marginally better at the moment, and it will be comfortably better if Djokovic fails to win the last few tournaments.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 5 November 2011, 04:38:56 PM
Djokovic just got bagelled by Nishikori in Basel.

Federer's 2006 still comfortably better than Djok's 2011 imo.

What a load of nonsense.

Wouldn't expect anything less from your arrogant self. :)

Federer's 2006 record of 92/5 ISN'T better than Djokovic's 67/4? Blimey.

Federer 2006: 3GS+1F, YE Masters title, 4 masters titles, 12 titles in total, 92-5 in matches.

Djokovic 2011: 3GS+1SF, 5 masters titles, 10 titles in total, 67-4 in matches.

If Djok is really injured then he won't play Paris/WTF.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 5 November 2011, 06:28:36 PM
Ronaldo thinks Federer just played a bunch of nobodies during his era.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 5 November 2011, 06:29:01 PM
Fed's into the final, by the way.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 5 November 2011, 06:55:15 PM
Ronaldo thinks Federer just played a bunch of nobodies during his era.

You yourself just backed up my point, man. Have a word, thicko.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 5 November 2011, 06:59:47 PM
If only Leon Best played tennis, eh? Pathetic :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Saturday 5 November 2011, 09:38:18 PM
Ronaldo thinks Federer just played a bunch of nobodies during his era.

Which is true, of course.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 November 2011, 11:45:29 AM
Come back to me when Rafa gets near Fed's total GS titles, bro.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 6 November 2011, 11:47:56 AM
Come back to me when Rafa gets near Fed's total GS titles, bro.

We all dream of playing Baghdatis and Philippoussis in Grand Slam finals. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 November 2011, 12:42:01 PM
Yes, Puerta, Soderling and Berdych are much better opposition :memelol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: AliGupter on Sunday 6 November 2011, 12:45:22 PM
Yes, Puerta, Soderling and Berdych are much better opposition :memelol:

He beat Federer in the semi in the Puerta year, and Soderling and Berdych both beat Federer earlier in the tournament.

You can't use the same argument in favour of Federer because the top players when he was supposedly at his peak were players like Roddick and Hewitt. :memelol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 November 2011, 12:46:00 PM
I respect Rafa's achievements but I don't think you can make the argument about the quality of opposition without coming off looking incredibly biased and ignorant. I could be a dick and mention that Rafa's H2H advantage over Federer is only due to him being completely inept on every court other than clay for the first 5-6 years of his career, which incidentally was also Federer's absolute peak. But I don't seriously believe that, anyway. Rafa's the greatest clay-courter ever, but Federer is the greatest ever.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Sunday 6 November 2011, 12:54:18 PM
By the way, Phillippoussis beat Agassi that year and Baghdatis beat Nalbandian; the same Nalbandian that owned Rafa for a long, long time in his career.

This is a ridiculous argument, anyway.

You can only beat what's in front of you. Federer was the best at this. If Federer wasn't around then Rafa might have a few more GS titles but would that mean that it was won in a s*** era?

Who's playing nowadays that can actually match up with the best? Murray's s**** in Grand Slams and Djokovic just had his first really good year. There's still only three - probably two, since Federer is declining - guys that you would back to win Grand Slams now, which isn't much.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Monday 7 November 2011, 03:33:42 PM
Paris Masters just began. No big guns playing today, Rafa pulled out of the tournament so it's just Djokovic, Federer and Murray. Anyway, I'm watching the Raonic match. He looks good but damn does he look like he just got out of a time machine from the 80s :lol:
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: jukeboxromeo on Saturday 12 November 2011, 04:27:52 PM
Federer gets to the final of Paris. He's now reached the final of all 9 Masters Series tournaments.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Pip on Saturday 12 November 2011, 05:29:10 PM
Cerebral display by Federer. I really enjoyed his play today.
Title: Re: Tennis Fans
Post by: Ibracadabra on Tuesday 15 November 2011, 10:46:52 PM
Roger federer should win the world tour finals, best player in the world and in good form
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