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Title: The Title Race
Post by: Decky on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:40:55 pm
Worthy of a thread for the run in? One of the best title races in years. Looking at the run in for both teams I think Liverpool will nick it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:44:29 pm
Hope Liverpool win it.
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Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:45:56 pm
Added a poll.
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Post by: triggs on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:46:41 pm
Hopefully Liverpool but think City will win it
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Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:47:17 pm
Want Liverpool to win, but I think Man City will.
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Post by: huss9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:47:46 pm
hope man city but liverpool have the easiest run in.
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Post by: Ketsbaia on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:49:19 pm
Want Man City to but I think today made the path much clearer for Liverpool, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:49:33 pm
Added a poll.

You've allowed both choices fyi. :lol:
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Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:49:55 pm
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.
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Post by: nemtizz on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:52:02 pm
Hope both get docked points and Spurs win it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Bizza on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:55:18 pm
Man City. We'll never hear the end of it if Liverpool win.
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Post by: Wilson on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:56:22 pm
My irrational hatred of all things Liverpool says I want City to win.

Also the verbal blow jobs Liverpool will receive if they win will be unbearable.
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Post by: bowlingcrofty on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:56:28 pm
Want Man City to win it. I want as many sets of football fans as humanly possible to be miserable.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: shakey jake on Sunday 14 April 2019, 06:58:33 pm
I think Liverpool will do the double
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:03:05 pm
My irrational hatred of all things Liverpool says I want City to win.

Also the verbal blow jobs Liverpool will receive if they win will be unbearable.

This is another big reason. It’ll be intolerable.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:05:20 pm
Really don't have a preference tbh. I don't like either of them as clubs, though both have likeable people within them. Suppose it would be quite funny for Liverpool to still not win.
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Post by: HTT on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:06:09 pm
Hope Liverpool win it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mattoon on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:06:14 pm
As intolerable as it will be with some of the Liverpool "fans" out there with a victim badge I also don't think that Man City "supporters" that change their shirts depending on who has the most money don't deserve it either. Most of my friends here are Liverpool supporters so I have to side with them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:08:42 pm
liverpool to win the league would mean them getting something at ours on the last day.
enough reason for me to want man city to win it.
could be glorious final day of the season at SJP.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Greg on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:09:12 pm
liverpool to win the league would mean them getting something at ours on the last day.
enough reason for me to want man city to win it.
could be glorious final day of the season at SJP.

We play Fulham away on the last day.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:10:13 pm
liverpool to win the league would mean them getting something at ours on the last day.
enough reason for me to want man city to win it.
could be glorious final day of the season at SJP.

We play Fulham away on the last day.

i meant last home game. love last home game wins in the sunshine.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:10:42 pm
The social torture of plastic scousers you know thinking they're mint > Actual torture, murder, slavery etc and a team with just as many obnoxious, entitled plastics that you just don't know because you're too old.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:19:02 pm
Hopefully Liverpool. Don’t have any particular problem with Man City fans or Pep, but I honk it would be better for football if Liverpool won it
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Post by: GavMcEl on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:19:39 pm
Bet the womans  brother  20 quid on new years eve that liverpool would bottle it ... so i hope city win  :lol:
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Post by: Klaus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:23:28 pm
I think the swooning over Liverpool from the media would be unbearable, if they do win it. We would never stop hearing about it.
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Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:25:53 pm
Rather Liverpool win it. Despite some of them being up their own arse, at least their fans stick by them, unlike fans at other clubs.
I actually think they will win it as well, there is a defeat in City left.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: godzilla on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:37:29 pm
Think the fact that City can afford a draw due to their goal difference will see them through. Don't particularly like either club as both sets of fans are arogant f***ers.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: chopey on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:40:43 pm
If Rafa screws this for them.............
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Robster on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:40:49 pm
I am so detached from football these days (cheers Mike), it feels quite a tedious run in to me. It'd be different if each were unexpectedly dropping points.
It feels like they are both just winning to the seasons conclusion.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:45:43 pm
I think the swooning over Liverpool from the media would be unbearable, if they do win it. We would never stop hearing about it.

:lol: It's already unbearable, Sky were literally frothing at the mouth at the thought of it happening today.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Cronky on Sunday 14 April 2019, 07:57:26 pm
It looks like City, for the second time, have been cheating. So Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Klaus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:03:55 pm
I think the swooning over Liverpool from the media would be unbearable, if they do win it. We would never stop hearing about it.

:lol: It's already unbearable, Sky were literally frothing at the mouth at the thought of it happening today.

Exactly. However Stiffers made a good point above. At least Liverpool fans always turn up and are in good voice, whereas City have half empty stadiums in the Champions league etc.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ryan on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:05:15 pm
50 votes in the poll and it’s 25 each :lol:

I think City will nick it by a point or on GD.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Greg on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:06:29 pm
50 votes in the poll and it’s 25 each :lol:

I think City will nick it by a point or on GD.

The question is who do you want to win it, not who do you think will win it.

I voted Liverpool but I think Man City will win it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:12:44 pm
I am so detached from football these days (cheers Mike), it feels quite a tedious run in to me. It'd be different if each were unexpectedly dropping points.
It feels like they are both just winning to the seasons conclusion.


So detached from football you are in a niche football forum posting about a title race
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Klaus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:13:17 pm
Didn’t realise we play Liverpool second last game of the season. ‘Kin hell
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Post by: dtd on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:15:04 pm
Didn’t realise we play Liverpool second last game of the season. ‘Kin hell

You know for a fact that Rafa is throwing that game.  :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:15:06 pm
Honestly it really comes down to the Spurs game, i suspect City will beat everyone else so if they win that game it will probably be a sign that they're winning the league.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The College Dropout on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:17:46 pm
Hopefully Liverpool. Don’t have any particular problem with Man City fans or Pep, but I honk it would be better for football if Liverpool won it

Why would it be better for football?

Liverpool have the most expensive defender and GK in world football.  Fairly certain their squad cost more than every other team in Europe besides City and Man Utd.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:19:51 pm
I still like our chances looking at the run in. It’ll go down to the wire.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The College Dropout on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:20:27 pm
I’m sure it’s to come. But one crap thing about this run-in is how uncompetitive the league is. Few twists and turns.  These guys just win week in week out. 

They will both get 90+ points easy.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:20:34 pm
Hopefully Liverpool. Don’t have any particular problem with Man City fans or Pep, but I honk it would be better for football if Liverpool won it

Why would it be better for football?

Liverpool have the most expensive defender and GK in world football.  Fairly certain their squad cost more than every other team in Europe besides City and Man Utd.
Their money doesn't come from slave owning murderers
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:21:07 pm
I hate Liverpool and always have. City please.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:22:29 pm
I went with Liverpool only because it's always good to have a different/first-time PL champion.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The College Dropout on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:23:12 pm
Hopefully Liverpool. Don’t have any particular problem with Man City fans or Pep, but I honk it would be better for football if Liverpool won it

Why would it be better for football?

Liverpool have the most expensive defender and GK in world football.  Fairly certain their squad cost more than every other team in Europe besides City and Man Utd.
Their money doesn't come from slave owning murderers

I agree with this but that’s not a ‘football’ issue.

I feel like Leicester winning the league was a great moment for the sport.

Not to underplay how terrible City’s owners are. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mattoon on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:29:37 pm
I hate Liverpool and always have. City please.

I used to hate Liverpool on account of the 4-3s and the fact they were our rivals for a time, our world's are so far apart now that I'm not really fussed by them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Wullie on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:33:31 pm
Liverpool winning it is better for football but I hate them. Man City please.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:37:08 pm
It would be better for football because Man City are cheating on a mass scale and making a mockery of the sport. Yes Liverpool have spent money but it reflects the size of their club, there is also a limit to what they can spend unlike Man City.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:41:09 pm
s*** like this.

?s=21
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: godzilla on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:41:15 pm
Didn’t realise we play Liverpool second last game of the season. ‘Kin hell

You know for a fact that Rafa is throwing that game.  :lol:

I would certainly hope not as he is employed by NUFC not LFC and has a duty to his own supporters to try and win the game. I actually have no doubt that will be the case also.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Robster on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:46:39 pm
I am so detached from football these days (cheers Mike), it feels quite a tedious run in to me. It'd be different if each were unexpectedly dropping points.
It feels like they are both just winning to the seasons conclusion.
So detached from football you are in a niche football forum posting about a title race
I'm not detached from the people and the craic in here, nor specifically, the club i've supported for 40 years (even though that's hanging by a thread too).
I just don't bother watching football on TV or reading about it in the press and therefore as such my knowledge of the modern game is pretty terrible.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:52:32 pm
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.
So much this. But from the ones I've met, the type is f***ing all of them. Man City are way more 'vanilla' too, to me.

Then there's the massive over reaction by media/liverpool fans online that'd just be unbearable
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:52:59 pm
s*** like this.

?s=21

Hope that's as close as the c***s get to it. Citeh for me, please
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:58:17 pm
Think the fact that City can afford a draw due to their goal difference will see them through. Don't particularly like either club as both sets of fans are arogant f***ers.
City are 2 points behind, they can't afford a draw unless Liverpool lose/draw 1
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 08:59:30 pm
Think City will win all of their games tbh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The Prophet on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:04:40 pm
Man City every day of the week.

Having lived in the area Liverpool fans are the most cringeworthy, sickly bunch of supporters going. That's before you get onto the glory fans emerging from the woodwork and the general media fawning over them.

Klopp has totally bough into the mentality too, his wide array of weather based excuses are bizarre. He's spent an absolute fortune too, yet people still ramble on like they're massive underdogs.

Hope we break their hearts in our final game at SJP, preferably 4-3 after an epic comeback.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: chopey on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:05:26 pm
I have a £1 pre season bet on Liverpool to win the title, Huddersfield and Cardiff to be relegated and Derby and Newport to be promoted @1000/1


so .......Liverpool please.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:13:20 pm
Think the fact that City can afford a draw due to their goal difference will see them through. Don't particularly like either club as both sets of fans are arogant f***ers.

they cant, they're 2 points behind liverpool with a game in hand. draw it and its all in liverpool's hands.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dokko on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:16:51 pm
I change my mind every game week. This week it’s citeh, sure next it will be Liverpool. It’s the usual chosing which way you want to die.

Can’t really fault Liverpool’s spending. They have the most expensive keeper and defender in the world as they earned it fairly, including selling their best players to Barcelona and spending wisely. Citeh buy a £50m defender, if he doesn’t cut it in 3 months they’ll buy another 2 without a second thought.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:25:09 pm
Man City every day of the week.

Having lived in the area Liverpool fans are the most cringeworthy, sickly bunch of supporters going. That's before you get onto the glory fans emerging from the woodwork and the general media fawning over them.

Klopp has totally bough into the mentality too, his wide array of weather based excuses are bizarre. He's spent an absolute fortune too, yet people still ramble on like they're massive underdogs.

Hope we break their hearts in our final game at SJP, preferably 4-3 after an epic comeback.

Within the context of going up against Man City they are.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:27:03 pm
just being brought up in the 70's and 80's has made me detest liverpool fc. canny lot are scousers but i hate that club.

their manu levels of arrogance,
1974 fa cup final,
heysel (dare i mention it),
the fans divine right to be champions,
4-3 in 1996,
4-3 the season after,
stevie g going in 2 footed just as solano was about to shoot at the gallowgate end and no penalty,
owens opening day hatrick immediately destroying our dreams of a gullit "sexy football" era,
the mythical anfield atmosphere,
the media love-in, 
etc.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: duo on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:29:16 pm
Liverpool mainly cause of this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/11/05/premier-league-rivals-push-manchester-city-investigated-allegations/amp/
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: godzilla on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:35:26 pm
Think the fact that City can afford a draw due to their goal difference will see them through. Don't particularly like either club as both sets of fans are arogant f***ers.

they cant, they're 2 points behind liverpool with a game in hand. draw it and its all in liverpool's hands.

I that’s true thought they were a point behind
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ryan on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:40:10 pm
50 votes in the poll and it’s 25 each :lol:

I think City will nick it by a point or on GD.

The question is who do you want to win it, not who do you think will win it.

I voted Liverpool but I think Man City will win it.

Liverpool for me but honestly wouldn't be fussed if City win it. Don't mind either team really.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The Prophet on Sunday 14 April 2019, 09:52:07 pm
Man City every day of the week.

Having lived in the area Liverpool fans are the most cringeworthy, sickly bunch of supporters going. That's before you get onto the glory fans emerging from the woodwork and the general media fawning over them.

Klopp has totally bough into the mentality too, his wide array of weather based excuses are bizarre. He's spent an absolute fortune too, yet people still ramble on like they're massive underdogs.

Hope we break their hearts in our final game at SJP, preferably 4-3 after an epic comeback.

Within the context of going up against Man City they are.

Their squad is worth circa half a billion quid.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 10:27:34 pm
Man City every day of the week.

Having lived in the area Liverpool fans are the most cringeworthy, sickly bunch of supporters going. That's before you get onto the glory fans emerging from the woodwork and the general media fawning over them.

Klopp has totally bough into the mentality too, his wide array of weather based excuses are bizarre. He's spent an absolute fortune too, yet people still ramble on like they're massive underdogs.

Hope we break their hearts in our final game at SJP, preferably 4-3 after an epic comeback.

Within the context of going up against Man City they are.

Their squad is worth circa half a billion quid.

Probably, but Man City's is worth at least twice that.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 14 April 2019, 10:29:59 pm
City, for some reason I've always found Klopp very irritating even before he was Liverpool manager which just made things worse while City's players and Pep are all reasonably likable even if the football while technically pleasing can be a bit dull to watch. Also as has been said the media salivating over them is already hard to put up with, it would become unbearable if they actually won it.
Not got a clue who'll actually win it mind, hard to see either team dropping points but weird things can happen at this stage with that kind of pressure, good to see a title race at least. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Sunday 14 April 2019, 10:48:07 pm
Honest question, but how does the media fawning differ from the fawning over Man City in the media? I honestly don't see any difference.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Sunday 14 April 2019, 11:01:34 pm
I predicted Liverpool will win at the start of the season and I maintained that even when they had the mini wobble, today's result confirms it for me.

I don't think Liverpool will drop any more points BUT can see City dropping points to Spurs and Man-U, both of them will need the points for a CL place
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Sunday 14 April 2019, 11:08:18 pm
I predicted Liverpool will win at the start of the season and I maintained that even when they had the mini wobble, today's result confirms it for me.

I don't think Liverpool will drop any more points BUT can see City dropping points to Spurs and Man-U, both of them will need the points for a CL place
Aye, like Chelsea today
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Amir_9 on Sunday 14 April 2019, 11:27:42 pm
Why would anyone want Man City to win the league? f*** that manufactured fake s***

Liverpool have much in common with us as well as the players who have played for the both of our clubs / footballing working class city etc etc

Besides, be fresh for the league to see someone else win it for a change once more
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:15:14 am
Something about Manchester City has always rubbed me the wrong way, even compared to Chelsea and PSG. Chelsea happened when I was a young teen and were pretty much always a big club in my understanding of the league from far away, and PSG were always a a dormant giant in Ligue 1 with great support. Manchester City were one of the most nondescript clubs in the league and then were essentially turned into an advertising extension of the UAE government overnight and were buying Robinho immediately. It never seemed real to me, and frankly diminished the league for me. At least Abramovich was someone that I could identify in the crowd on the broadcast and treat as a villain. Man City were just a non-entity that were suddenly dominant because of some shadowy figure that doesn't even bother showing up to matches or seem to be interested at all. I will always be against them in their current format, tbh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:33:29 am
Anyone who hasn't got a Liverpool connection and wants them to win it i don't understand tbh, it will be unbearable.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:35:19 am
Something about Manchester City has always rubbed me the wrong way, even compared to Chelsea and PSG. Chelsea happened when I was a young teen and were pretty much always a big club in my understanding of the league from far away, and PSG were always a a dormant giant in Ligue 1 with great support. Manchester City were one of the most nondescript clubs in the league and then were essentially turned into an advertising extension of the UAE government overnight and were buying Robinho immediately. It never seemed real to me, and frankly diminished the league for me. At least Abramovich was someone that I could identify in the crowd on the broadcast and treat as a villain. Man City were just a non-entity that were suddenly dominant because of some shadowy figure that doesn't even bother showing up to matches or seem to be interested at all. I will always be against them in their current format, tbh.

You are wrong about Chelsea, they have never been a big club.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:38:45 am
Something about Manchester City has always rubbed me the wrong way, even compared to Chelsea and PSG. Chelsea happened when I was a young teen and were pretty much always a big club in my understanding of the league from far away, and PSG were always a a dormant giant in Ligue 1 with great support. Manchester City were one of the most nondescript clubs in the league and then were essentially turned into an advertising extension of the UAE government overnight and were buying Robinho immediately. It never seemed real to me, and frankly diminished the league for me. At least Abramovich was someone that I could identify in the crowd on the broadcast and treat as a villain. Man City were just a non-entity that were suddenly dominant because of some shadowy figure that doesn't even bother showing up to matches or seem to be interested at all. I will always be against them in their current format, tbh.
Agree with all of that. They're also really boring to watch, just completely kill games when they are on top
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:50:34 am
Something about Manchester City has always rubbed me the wrong way, even compared to Chelsea and PSG. Chelsea happened when I was a young teen and were pretty much always a big club in my understanding of the league from far away, and PSG were always a a dormant giant in Ligue 1 with great support. Manchester City were one of the most nondescript clubs in the league and then were essentially turned into an advertising extension of the UAE government overnight and were buying Robinho immediately. It never seemed real to me, and frankly diminished the league for me. At least Abramovich was someone that I could identify in the crowd on the broadcast and treat as a villain. Man City were just a non-entity that were suddenly dominant because of some shadowy figure that doesn't even bother showing up to matches or seem to be interested at all. I will always be against them in their current format, tbh.

You are wrong about Chelsea, they have never been a big club.


But they were winning trophies. League, FA, Uefa. It seemed like the next progression. It made it easier to stomach.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:28:44 am
Something about Manchester City has always rubbed me the wrong way, even compared to Chelsea and PSG. Chelsea happened when I was a young teen and were pretty much always a big club in my understanding of the league from far away, and PSG were always a a dormant giant in Ligue 1 with great support. Manchester City were one of the most nondescript clubs in the league and then were essentially turned into an advertising extension of the UAE government overnight and were buying Robinho immediately. It never seemed real to me, and frankly diminished the league for me. At least Abramovich was someone that I could identify in the crowd on the broadcast and treat as a villain. Man City were just a non-entity that were suddenly dominant because of some shadowy figure that doesn't even bother showing up to matches or seem to be interested at all. I will always be against them in their current format, tbh.

You are wrong about Chelsea, they have never been a big club.


But they were winning trophies. League, FA, Uefa. It seemed like the next progression. It made it easier to stomach.

Correct, and my quoted opinion is entirely about individual perception, tbf. To a fourteen year old in Nigeria at a time where Premier League was massive, but less available than now, they were one of the bigger clubs and them winning a title made sense to me. I understand why that might be different if you were in England or of a different era.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:54:44 am
:thup: I’m with Baba, Chelsea have pretty much always been a successful team since I started following the PL. So my perception is skewed. Also why I don’t see the likes of Sheffield Wednesday or Leeds as anything but second-tier clubs, despite them having storied histories.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:17:52 am
You guys are making me feel old, i'm only 29 ffs :lol:

But Chelsea basically had a poor history of trophies before Abramovich, not even compared to us in terms of leagues and FA Cups, obviously that has changed now, the c***s.

But they are a horrible club with a horrible set of fans, please don't like them in any way :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:17:53 am
Chelsea weren't any better than Citeh in the early days of the PL. They made great use of Bosmans in the mid 90s (Zola & Vialli especially), and at a similar time Citeh fell to the third division. Chelsea were also broke and on the cusp of going under, so a similar fate might have befallen them.

The thing is, though, is that Citeh were getting 30,000 crowds in the third division, while Chelsea wouldn't get much more at Stamford Bridge in the PL. I always felt Chelsea getting money was grubby nouvea rich whereas at least Citeh were a real club. (And if we're going to argue morality of cash, Abramovich was gifted billions in one of the most corrupt and colossal plunders in history. So f*** that argument).

Gotta say my memory of PSG in the 90s wasn't a top level club - Marseille before their fall and then Monaco dominated for a long time. Paris had good players like Ginola et al, but it wasn't until the French government and the French FA built PSG a nice new stadium (played in by the likes of Ronaldinho) that they really blossomed into a club attractive for an oil takeover
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:20:17 am
Generally speaking, in the unlikely event of us failing to win the league, I want a title win to be as meaningless as possible. When the moneybags club was Man U, I could tolerate them winning it, when it was Chelsea it was less palatable but still not as galling, now it’s Man City. Oh, you won the league with infinite money? Well done.

I suspect most people my age are “anyone but Liverpool”. They’ve always been such insufferable pricks. My football confession is that I wanted Michael Thomas to score - it had got to that stage. There are Liverpool pundits on TV as far as the eye can see, and the media have helped nurture their powerful brand through the mediocre years: it was only a matter of time before their disproportionate commercial income would pay dividends.

So, Man City for me, with a heavy heart. I can’t see Liverpool slipping up with that run-in. At least the inevitable and relentless ESPN love-in will make one more reason not to switch that channel on.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:24:58 am
Chelsea weren't any better than Citeh in the early days of the PL. They made great use of Bosmans in the mid 90s (Zola & Vialli especially), and at a similar time Citeh fell to the third division. Chelsea were also broke and on the cusp of going under, so a similar fate might have befallen them.

The thing is, though, is that Citeh were getting 30,000 crowds in the third division, while Chelsea wouldn't get much more at Stamford Bridge in the PL. I always felt Chelsea getting money was grubby nouvea rich whereas at least Citeh were a real club. (And if we're going to argue morality of cash, Abramovich was gifted billions in one of the most corrupt and colossal plunders in history. So f*** that argument).

Gotta say my memory of PSG in the 90s wasn't a top level club - Marseille before their fall and then Monaco dominated for a long time. Paris had good players like Ginola et al, but it wasn't until the French government and the French FA built PSG a nice new stadium (played in by the likes of Ronaldinho) that they really blossomed into a club attractive for an oil takeover

City have a s*** set of fans tbh, often loads of seats visible in their ground despite what they've become.

Neither Man City or Chelsea will ever be a big club, successful maybe, but not big.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:25:34 am
You guys are making me feel old, i'm only 29 ffs :lol:

But Chelsea basically had a poor history of trophies before Abramovich, not even compared to us in terms of leagues and FA Cups, obviously that has changed now, the c***s.

But they are a horrible club with a horrible set of fans, please don't like them in any way :lol:

Dude they won the League Cup in 1998, FA Cup in 97 and 2000 and the Uefa Cup in 1998. I distinctly remember the FA and Uefa Cup wins and I’m also 29. That was all before Abramovich.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:26:09 am
You guys are making me feel old, i'm only 29 ffs :lol:

But Chelsea basically had a poor history of trophies before Abramovich, not even compared to us in terms of leagues and FA Cups, obviously that has changed now, the c***s.

But they are a horrible club with a horrible set of fans, please don't like them in any way :lol:

Dude they won the League Cup in 1998, FA Cup in 97 and 2000 and the Uefa Cup in 1998. I distinctly remember the FA and Uefa Cup wins and I’m also 29. That was all before Abramovich.

Still c***s man, f*** em.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:28:23 am
Also it wasnt the Uefa Cup, it was the cup winners cup.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:31:13 am
I mean what’s the difference? It’s the one Sir Bobby won with Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:33:54 am
You guys are making me feel old, i'm only 29 ffs :lol:

But Chelsea basically had a poor history of trophies before Abramovich, not even compared to us in terms of leagues and FA Cups, obviously that has changed now, the c***s.

But they are a horrible club with a horrible set of fans, please don't like them in any way :lol:

Dude they won the League Cup in 1998, FA Cup in 97 and 2000 and the Uefa Cup in 1998. I distinctly remember the FA and Uefa Cup wins and I’m also 29. That was all before Abramovich.

Yeah, and as is commonly accepted, they’d done so by running up enough debt to go under. Then Abramovich came along, wiped out that debt and spent insane amounts of cash to put them over the top and keep them there. You could argue the Man City lottery win was more egregious because they weren’t very good (despite a nice new stadium bought for - relatively - peanuts), but Chelsea’s was a lottery win nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:37:46 am
I mean what’s the difference? It’s the one Sir Bobby won with Barcelona.

Two seperate competitions.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:41:07 am
Chelsea are the luckiest motherfuckers alive, they were basically going bust before the Russian gangster arrived.

c***s in every way, i f***ing hate them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:47:58 am
You guys are making me feel old, i'm only 29 ffs :lol:

But Chelsea basically had a poor history of trophies before Abramovich, not even compared to us in terms of leagues and FA Cups, obviously that has changed now, the c***s.

But they are a horrible club with a horrible set of fans, please don't like them in any way :lol:

Dude they won the League Cup in 1998, FA Cup in 97 and 2000 and the Uefa Cup in 1998. I distinctly remember the FA and Uefa Cup wins and I’m also 29. That was all before Abramovich.

Yeah, and as is commonly accepted, they’d done so by running up enough debt to go under. Then Abramovich came along, wiped out that debt and spent insane amounts of cash to put them over the top and keep them there. You could argue the Man City lottery win was more egregious because they weren’t very good (despite a nice new stadium bought for - relatively - peanuts), but Chelsea’s was a lottery win nonetheless.

Still can’t get over City’s one. It should have been either us, Everton or Villa. We were all either there or there abouts. City were nothing before the money.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Stottie on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:52:24 am
I hope City win. I lived in Manchester for a bit and used to go to Maine Road. That aside, Liverpool have too many celebrity fans and ex-players as pundits. Blatant dives from Salah do not help either.

If it were City vs. Tottenham, I'd want Tottenham to win, because like Leicester, they are closer to a normal club and therefore can be cheered on as an underdog. Like Man U, Liverpool are a glamour club in the most glamorous league and a decent chunk of their spending power is not linked to anything they have achieved on a football pitch in the past twenty years or current matchgoing fanbase. Man U would outspend other teams even before Ferguson and buy the best players, Bryan Robson, Paul Ince etc. even when they were finishing ninth and tenth. It mightn't be oil money, but Liverpool and Man U still operate with a big advantage, on top of the advantage every EPL club now has versus clubs in other European leagues.

If City could draw one and still win on GD, I'd fancy them, but the gap is two points and that tips it into Liverpool's favour.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: covmag on Monday 15 April 2019, 04:36:58 am
No beef with Liverpool,i hope they win it
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Monday 15 April 2019, 04:44:11 am
I easily want Liverpool to win this. Aye, a bunch of pricks follow them, but even newer shallower pricks follow Man City now too. Liverpool are a proper football club, aye with a fair bit of many, but not like MC, and at least Liverpool's wealth isn't from just from a random cash infusion. They're a proper big club and haven't won the league in my living memory. It'll mean much more to them, and they're a likable bunch with Klopp now.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 April 2019, 05:56:45 am
Chelsea are the luckiest motherfuckers alive, they were basically going bust before the Russian gangster arrived.

c***s in every way, i f***ing hate them.

Aye, this is what Baba fails to mention. They were spending beyond their means to achieve the cup wins they had done. The season before Roman bought them their one signing was De Lucas on loan. They were skint.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: themanupstairs on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:08:03 am
I'm in two minds on this one. On the one hand I know Rafa and most of my mates/relatives would be happy with Liverpool winning the title so despite hating that club for years I could finally stomach being nonchalant about it. On the other hand, if we were to rip the title out of their hands in our last home game, and with it rip out their hearts it would be the sweetest revenge for the 4-3 that I could imagine.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Stal on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:18:38 am
I always hated man u. Insufferable arseholes with an arrogant tosser of a manager who had everything their own way. BBC contracted interviews? Nah, we won't do those. Plenty of added on time by arse kissing refs? Sure. t***s like keane, Rio f and staam? Aye. Giving them a nickname "united" even though a lot of other teams have that word in their names? Yeah, let's do that for them whilst pundit's tongues are still up their arses. Although these days I pretty much nothing them.

Chelsea for me are just milwall who can afford their own strips.

Man city were a yo yo club, where until recent memory their best ever player was Shaun Goater. I don't dislike them though.

Spurs have always been one of my "hope they do well" clubs. Probably due to the likes of Lineker and when they had Ossie Ardiles as manager with their 7 up front policy. Funnily enough, I like their arch rivals Arsenal too and have no axe to grind there. 

I like Liverpool too. Like it's been said earlier, they feel like a proper football club and one of the consistent big boys who've never won it. Plus the Rafa connection. As an aside, much like spurs/arsenal I don't mind Everton either.

As it stands, I'd want Liverpool to win it currently. Down the line, I wouldn't begrudge a Spurs win, although naturally I'd rather it was us up there with Rafa as manager and a new, decent owner.

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: nufcjb on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:49:28 am
City please. Won't be able to stand the media wanking all over a Liverpool triumph though I do see City dropping points unlike Liverpool.

Hope they slip up against us then at SJP. Jordan Henderson OG in the last minute. Newcastle 4-3 Liverpool Rafa's last home game.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:52:02 am
I hate both, but they're both playing incredible football and deserve to win the league. People can say City have the oil money or whatever but Liverpool's starting 11 is probably just as expensive as City's. People forget the likes of Keita and Fabinho cost £40/50m.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:59:18 am
Yep. And Liverpool’s ‘net spend’ is only like it is because they’re unable to hold on to their ‘elite’ players when an offer comes in. Sterling, Suarez & Coutinho brought in at least £225m alone.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: TooonDoom on Monday 15 April 2019, 06:59:20 am
Hope we beat the Scouse 4:3. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Boo Boy on Monday 15 April 2019, 09:25:02 am
Hope we beat the Scouse 4:3. 

'Rondon Closing in. Newcastle lead in stoppage time. Klopp hangs his head, he's devastated' will be the commentary.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tyne81 on Monday 15 April 2019, 09:30:35 am
Never been a fan of Liverpool but I cant help but like Klopp and I like watching Liverpool play these days. I also think it's good for the league if Man City don't win it. There is something a little bit more colder watching them steam roll threw teams, fantastic side though and this has been one of the best title races in a while.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Conjo on Monday 15 April 2019, 10:05:22 am
Yep. And Liverpool’s ‘net spend’ is only like it is because they’re unable to hold on to their ‘elite’ players when an offer comes in. Sterling, Suarez & Coutinho brought in at least £225m alone.

Isn't that the way to do it these days unless you're Man City or Chelsea? Sell the stars to improve the team. Same as Tottenham.

The way they've gone about it, that Gerrard has retired, the similarities with Newcastle makes me wish they win it but then I start thinking about all the people supporting them that I don't want to give the satisfaction of winning the league. They will no doubt play it off as something unexpected and special that they deserve due to supporting them them through hard times etc :lol: Feel a bit sick just  thinking about it.

If Liverpool could win it through some kind of unethical but legal means that removes the joy of winning the title for all its supporters I'd take that option please.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 15 April 2019, 10:22:34 am
Liverpool for me. I don't understand how anybody could want Man City to win it.

Yeah, I also wanted Michael Thomas to score, but that was 1989 after they had dominated for a long time, I got sick of them. It's been fun, watching them get close only to fall at the last hurdle, but I think I can allow them a victory now.

They're undoubtedly the best club, in the PL era (does that include the Premiership era?), never to have won, so good luck to them. I just hope we make it tough for them..
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Monday 15 April 2019, 11:09:20 am
Yep. And Liverpool’s ‘net spend’ is only like it is because they’re unable to hold on to their ‘elite’ players when an offer comes in. Sterling, Suarez & Coutinho brought in at least £225m alone.

Isn't that the way to do it these days unless you're Man City or Chelsea? Sell the stars to improve the team. Same as Tottenham.

The way they've gone about it, that Gerrard has retired, the similarities with Newcastle makes me wish they win it but then I start thinking about all the people supporting them that I don't want to give the satisfaction of winning the league. They will no doubt play it off as something unexpected and special that they deserve due to supporting them them through hard times etc :lol: Feel a bit sick just  thinking about it.

If Liverpool could win it through some kind of unethical but legal means that removes the joy of winning the title for all its supporters I'd take that option please.

Like tapping up their most important player?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Monday 15 April 2019, 11:14:23 am
I'd be absolutely shocked if tapping up players wasn't just standard practice in football
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: geordie_b on Monday 15 April 2019, 11:29:22 am
If City win everything is forgotten about the following day
If Liverpool win we will never be allowed to forget it by their fans and the media

I’m desperate for Liverpool to f*** it up!
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 April 2019, 11:48:27 am
If City win everything is forgotten about the following day
If Liverpool win we will never be allowed to forget it by their fans and the media

I’m desperate for Liverpool to f*** it up!

Yep, pretty much any other club in the country apart from Sunderland I’d happily see win the league over Liverpool for this reason.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sadnesstan on Monday 15 April 2019, 11:55:05 am
I mean, surely if somebody wins the title, they're entitled to bragging rights for a year. Once that year is over, we return to normal, without the chat of Liverpool not winning, which is surely the source of people's irritation.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Boo Boy on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:07:37 pm
Man city were a horrible abnoxious club before they got money and I still want them to win it above Liverpool with all of their media mates and telling the world 'it means more to us'. it really doesn't, every club means the world to their own fans. Love us to be the ones to put the final nail in it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: hakka on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:29:56 pm
I'd like Liverpool to win it, but I fear they will stumble again. Wouldn't surprise me if we tripped them up to hand it to City.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:35:37 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:39:03 pm
Man city were a horrible abnoxious club before they got money and I still want them to win it above Liverpool with all of their media mates and telling the world 'it means more to us'. it really doesn't, every club means the world to their own fans. Love us to be the ones to put the final nail in it.


It definitely does mean more to Liverpool, like. They had more league titles than any one be at one point but have been on a Barron run over the last 30 years. Man City would prefer the champions league by a considerable margin.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 12:41:31 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.

It's a bit silly to think it's that easy tbh, there's dozens of examples of clubs throwing money at something and still failing. The money helps obviously but when you're as good as City are it goes way deeper than money. Not to mention they only bought one player this past summer anyway, in terms of last year to this year most of what makes them good is self improvement from what's already there.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Conjo on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:24:24 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.

It's a bit silly to think it's that easy tbh, there's dozens of examples of clubs throwing money at something and still failing. The money helps obviously but when you're as good as City are it goes way deeper than money. Not to mention they only bought one player this past summer anyway, in terms of last year to this year most of what makes them good is self improvement from what's already there.

We've been on that side of the scale so we should know! If money was all that's required, we should have won the league in '96, we wouldn't have been relegated in '17 etc etc :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:30:29 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.

It's a bit silly to think it's that easy tbh, there's dozens of examples of clubs throwing money at something and still failing. The money helps obviously but when you're as good as City are it goes way deeper than money. Not to mention they only bought one player this past summer anyway, in terms of last year to this year most of what makes them good is self improvement from what's already there.
Please cite examples of clubs that have spent one billion and failed. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:34:20 pm
I'd be absolutely shocked if tapping up players wasn't just standard practice in football

Players also make themselves available to clubs, works both ways.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:34:23 pm
Liverpool for me. I don't understand how anybody could want Man City to win it.

Yeah, I also wanted Michael Thomas to score, but that was 1989 after they had dominated for a long time, I got sick of them. It's been fun, watching them get close only to fall at the last hurdle, but I think I can allow them a victory now.

They're undoubtedly the best club, in the PL era (does that include the Premiership era?), never to have won, so good luck to them. I just hope we make it tough for them..

I like more Man City players than I like Liverpool players. It's that simple for me. There's only really the two full backs at Liverpool I like. The rest are a bunch of diving, cheating, whinging b******s (ok, Milner aside).

There's only really Kyle Walker in the City side I dislike. Huge fan of Sterling, Aguero, De Bruyne, Silva (x2), Sane, Gundogan, Foden etc.

Oh, and repeating the point many have made, if Liverpool win it, it suddenly makes them the greatest team the world has ever seen for the next 50 years.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:34:46 pm
Are there any examples of clubs spending as much as Man City and failing? Yes, they only bought one player in the summer that’s because they achieved over 100 points last season, leaving little area for improvement. They have the worlds most expensive manager, with the worlds most expensive training facilities, with a budget only hindered by ffp which they still find ways round. They spent 200 mil on fullbacks the season before so they could give Pep exactly what he wants. Before that under Pellegrini and Mancini correcting cb options after a number of below par signings ion that area. No doubt they’ve done many things right,  but they’ve paid a lot of money for people in all areas of the club to make good decisions.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:38:12 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.

It's a bit silly to think it's that easy tbh, there's dozens of examples of clubs throwing money at something and still failing. The money helps obviously but when you're as good as City are it goes way deeper than money. Not to mention they only bought one player this past summer anyway, in terms of last year to this year most of what makes them good is self improvement from what's already there.
Please cite examples of clubs that have spent one billion and failed. :lol:

Considering their ambition is to win the CL then City themselves have failed, multiple times over. But i was clearly referring to season by season as football isn't played over a 5 year period but season to season.

Plenty of teams have spent 100s of millions sometimes 200 million in one season and won nothing, hell Liverpool might join that club if City win the league.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:42:28 pm
Man city were a horrible abnoxious club before they got money and I still want them to win it above Liverpool with all of their media mates and telling the world 'it means more to us'. it really doesn't, every club means the world to their own fans. Love us to be the ones to put the final nail in it.


It definitely does mean more to Liverpool, like. They had more league titles than any one be at one point but have been on a Barron run over the last 30 years. Man City would prefer the champions league by a considerable margin.

They had a 27 year spell where they won 13 titles. The other 100 years in their history they’ve won 5. They had their spell of dominance, why shouldn’t someone like Man City have theirs?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:44:24 pm
A bit p*ssed off with the way FootBall is atm. Probably hits us harder because we have/had potential to be one of the clubs challenging for champions league. That is unlikely to happen now. I find it extremely frustrating to see clubs given everything, to the point where they even break the rules. It doesn’t even matter if they make mistakes, they just throw a few hundred million at the problem and its fixed. They have everything required to sustain this level for decades to come.


It’s not just Man City, to be fair. It’s Chelsea and their egregious hoarding of players. Its also to a lesser extent Wolves, it’s West Ham with a free stadium, and arguably Everton these days. I mean for Man City where is the sacrifice? There is none, which must cheapen the experience.

It's a bit silly to think it's that easy tbh, there's dozens of examples of clubs throwing money at something and still failing. The money helps obviously but when you're as good as City are it goes way deeper than money. Not to mention they only bought one player this past summer anyway, in terms of last year to this year most of what makes them good is self improvement from what's already there.

We've been on that side of the scale so we should know! If money was all that's required, we should have won the league in '96, we wouldn't have been relegated in '17 etc etc :lol:


There is a difference between what we did And what they’ve done. Our growth was extremely natural and a result of KK and SJH’s stewardship of the club. We made sacrifices to achieve that too. We had no training ground, we got rid of the academy. The stadium expansions were financed and paid for over many years( something else Man City got for very little too). They have artificial sponsorships which are just ways for them to get round ffp rules. We had arguably the most natural and fitting sponsorship the game has seen, with the city’s two most recognisable brands which also happened to be next door to one another.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:46:32 pm
Man city were a horrible abnoxious club before they got money and I still want them to win it above Liverpool with all of their media mates and telling the world 'it means more to us'. it really doesn't, every club means the world to their own fans. Love us to be the ones to put the final nail in it.


It definitely does mean more to Liverpool, like. They had more league titles than any one be at one point but have been on a Barron run over the last 30 years. Man City would prefer the champions league by a considerable margin.

They had a 27 year spell where they won 13 titles. The other 100 years in their history they’ve won 5. They had their spell of dominance, why shouldn’t someone like Man City have theirs?


It’s not so much their dominance I have a problem with, but the way they’ve achieved it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:47:27 pm
There’s no way they could have done it any other way.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jackyboy on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:48:34 pm
How many extra points have Liverpool got from penalties given for Saha diving and cheaing.  Add to that the thug Henderson and no I don't want them to win it
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:49:44 pm
I don't understand the point in talking about season by season spending anyway when both teams, especially Man City, signed their best players years ago.

It's also fairly moot considering Man City can easily fail and keep spending from their bottomless bank account until they're successful, without even a slap on the wrist re FFP.

As for the CL, that's Man City's ambition but it's not Pep's. His outlook is always to win the league and if you win the CL it's because it's a byproduct of that and luck.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:53:03 pm
There’s no way they could have done it any other way.


We can agree on that. Doesn’t mean I have to like it though.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:55:21 pm
I don't understand the point in talking about season by season spending anyway when both teams, especially Man City, signed their best players years ago.

It's also fairly moot considering Man City can easily fail and keep spending from their bottomless bank account until they're successful, without even a slap on the wrist re FFP.

As for the CL, that's Man City's ambition but it's not Pep's. His outlook is always to win the league and if you win the CL it's because it's a byproduct of that and luck.

Because that's how football is played? i don't see the point in talking about their spending over multiple seasons when the sport isn't defined by success over multiple years or even played like that?

But if you want to do this then fine, how about Man Utd's spending since Ferguson retired? what has that got them?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Monday 15 April 2019, 01:57:54 pm
I don't understand the point in talking about season by season spending anyway when both teams, especially Man City, signed their best players years ago.

It's also fairly moot considering Man City can easily fail and keep spending from their bottomless bank account until they're successful, without even a slap on the wrist re FFP.

As for the CL, that's Man City's ambition but it's not Pep's. His outlook is always to win the league and if you win the CL it's because it's a byproduct of that and luck.

Because that's how football is played? i don't see the point in talking about their spending over multiple seasons when the sport isn't defined by success over multiple years or even played like that?

But if you want to do this then fine, how about Man Utd's spending since Ferguson retired? what has that got them?

:(
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:02:25 pm
:lol: I didn't want to hurt anyone tbh, i just feel like the whole money discussion is way too simplified in terms of how easy it supposedly is once you have it.

Especially in the Premier League where other than Tottenham ( for their own reasons) all the big teams spend s*** loads, i don't think it's as easy to have success as some think, there's way more to it than just spend money and everything happens.

 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:04:34 pm
:lol: I didn't want to hurt anyone tbh, i just feel like the whole money discussion is way too simplified in terms of how easy it supposedly is once you have it.

Especially in the Premier League where other than Tottenham ( for their own reasons) all the big teams spend s*** loads, i don't think it's as easy to have success as some think, there's way more to it than just spend money and everything happens.

 

Our managers have managed to spend 100's of millions on absolute guff to be fair. That's the difference in appointing David Moyes as opposed to Pep Guardiola. We're essentially still recovering from that terrible appointment.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:08:35 pm
Of course there is. Man City are an incredibly well ran club there is no denying that. They have made mistakes though which might have cost them a title or two over the last few years but due to their incredible spending power have gotten out of it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:09:58 pm
That's what i'm saying, i think the aspect of coaching, players self improvement, mental aspect etc etc is genuinely ignored. Not just about City either but in general, if Liverpool gave the money they spent last summer to 90% of the league other than Klopp would they be on track for over 90+ points? probably not.

I just feel like that it's not as easy as some think it is.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:11:37 pm
Manchester  united are a genuinely huge club who perhaps could have spent even more if it had not been for the Glaziers. They can do this because they have built their club up over a long time to be the biggest in the country, with huge revenue.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: summerof69 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:12:58 pm
But part of that huge expenditure is the coaching. I mean isn’t Giardiolavthe best paid manager in the world?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:16:44 pm
Manchester  united are a genuinely huge club who perhaps could have spent even more if it had not been for the Glaziers. They can do this because they have built their club up over a long time to be the biggest in the country, with huge revenue.

The circumstance isn't really relevant to my argument tbh, i couldn't really care less about it. I'm just saying that it's not as simple as throwing money at something and thinking it will fall into place. You may care about the circumstance but it's never been part of my argument so i'm not really fussed tbh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:18:19 pm
But part of that huge expenditure is the coaching. I mean isn’t Giardiolavthe best paid manager in the world?

I think Simeone is actually.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:20:39 pm
Simone's new contract has made him the highest paid manager in the world.  Simone's had problems with trying to change Atletico's style this season, hasn't really worked.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: joeyt on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:21:51 pm
How many extra points have Liverpool got from penalties given for Saha diving and cheaing.  Add to that the thug Henderson and no I don't want them to win it

How is Henderson a thug? Or just because he's from Sunderland?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 15 April 2019, 02:24:11 pm
Simone's new contract has made him the highest paid manager in the world.  Simone's had problems with trying to change Atletico's style this season, hasn't really worked.

Didn't know he signed a new contract, i was assuming he might move on after this season for some reason. Guess that won't happen then if it's signed a big new deal.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Monday 15 April 2019, 03:13:10 pm
I don't understand the point in talking about season by season spending anyway when both teams, especially Man City, signed their best players years ago.

It's also fairly moot considering Man City can easily fail and keep spending from their bottomless bank account until they're successful, without even a slap on the wrist re FFP.

As for the CL, that's Man City's ambition but it's not Pep's. His outlook is always to win the league and if you win the CL it's because it's a byproduct of that and luck.

Because that's how football is played? i don't see the point in talking about their spending over multiple seasons when the sport isn't defined by success over multiple years or even played like that?

But if you want to do this then fine, how about Man Utd's spending since Ferguson retired? what has that got them?

That's not how football's played. :lol: You accumulate players over numerous years and spend money over numerous years in order to win titles over numerous years. You wouldn't just look at Man City's signings in summer 2017 when analysing why they won the PL in 2017-18, would you? It would be totally stupid to ignore literally everyone except Ederson, Walker, Mendy, Danilo, Laporte, and Bernardo Silva, wouldn't it?

The Man United point is exactly it, they didn't completely overhaul the team in one summer, they've spent hundreds of millions over 6 years and will carry on doing so until they win something beyond  the FA Cup, the League Cup, and the Europa Cup.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 15 April 2019, 04:20:52 pm
Imagine the scenes if we won the league  :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 15 April 2019, 09:09:57 pm
I want Liverpool to win the league because I have never seen them win it before and I think it will mean much more to them than Man City who will just shrug it off as another trophy.

Man City will probably win it though despite having tougher fixtures left.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 01:32:27 am
The thing with Liverpool which can be used with regards to us probably more than anything, is in real life away from the web the majority of their fans are sound. Expose yourself to Liverpool through the lens of Sky and pundits who used to play for them, social media, RAWK and various talk ins, and you’ll hate everything about them.

Me, in real life, their fans are sound, Klopp is similar to Rafa in terms of getting a club and it’s fans, has his team playing football I personally prefer, hasn’t been bankrolled by a sovereign state, money he has spent coming via sales and the money LFC get from Sky, the CL and fans buying all that tat merchandise, and LFC are a Northern club with likeable players.

Man City winning the league just reinforces the Monopoly money has over success which Man City can and will see off any threat by outspending anyone.

There is nothing artificial with Klopp, the team he’s assembled, the players he’s brought in from the academy nor Liverpool outside of their global fanbase and admittedly a large percentage of phoney match day going fans.

It would be a good thing for the game if they were to take the title off City.

Mind, if they were to choke, I’d p*ss myself laughing.



Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 06:53:12 am
The thing with Liverpool which can be used with regards to us probably more than anything, is in real life away from the web the majority of their fans are sound. Expose yourself to Liverpool through the lens of Sky and pundits who used to play for them, social media, RAWK and various talk ins, and you’ll hate everything about them.

Me, in real life, their fans are sound, Klopp is similar to Rafa in terms of getting a club and it’s fans, has his team playing football I personally prefer, hasn’t been bankrolled by a sovereign state, money he has spent coming via sales and the money LFC get from Sky, the CL and fans buying all that tat merchandise, and LFC are a Northern club with likeable players.

Man City winning the league just reinforces the Monopoly money has over success which Man City can and will see off any threat by outspending anyone.

There is nothing artificial with Klopp, the team he’s assembled, the players he’s brought in from the academy nor Liverpool outside of their global fanbase and admittedly a large percentage of phoney match day going fans.

It would be a good thing for the game if they were to take the title off City.

Mind, if they were to choke, I’d p*ss myself laughing.


Liverpool's first team is almost as expensive as City's. Klopp has also used the same amount of academy graduates in his first team as Pep has; 1.

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 06:54:55 am
The thing with Liverpool which can be used with regards to us probably more than anything, is in real life away from the web the majority of their fans are sound. Expose yourself to Liverpool through the lens of Sky and pundits who used to play for them, social media, RAWK and various talk ins, and you’ll hate everything about them.

Nar, I used to live in hertfordshire as a boy and the number of plastics spouting off about 'we' won this, 'we're' f***ing mint was beyond annoying. Genuine scouse Liverpool fans and even the forrins are generally alright tbf, it's the south eastern glory mob you hear calling in to phone ins that are insufferable.

For that reason, and because my brother is one of those plastics, I'm in for Citeh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 06:55:31 am
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.

@Mike
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 07:43:11 am
The thing with Liverpool which can be used with regards to us probably more than anything, is in real life away from the web the majority of their fans are sound. Expose yourself to Liverpool through the lens of Sky and pundits who used to play for them, social media, RAWK and various talk ins, and you’ll hate everything about them.

Me, in real life, their fans are sound, Klopp is similar to Rafa in terms of getting a club and it’s fans, has his team playing football I personally prefer, hasn’t been bankrolled by a sovereign state, money he has spent coming via sales and the money LFC get from Sky, the CL and fans buying all that tat merchandise, and LFC are a Northern club with likeable players.

Man City winning the league just reinforces the Monopoly money has over success which Man City can and will see off any threat by outspending anyone.

There is nothing artificial with Klopp, the team he’s assembled, the players he’s brought in from the academy nor Liverpool outside of their global fanbase and admittedly a large percentage of phoney match day going fans.

It would be a good thing for the game if they were to take the title off City.

Mind, if they were to choke, I’d p*ss myself laughing.





Name them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 08:05:38 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 08:18:13 am
I think Milner is likeable aswell.  He’s clearly a top pro and an excellent footballer.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Chicken Dancer on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 08:24:06 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

Firminho has the most despicable face in the league. f*** him.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 08:30:24 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

Firminho has the most despicable face in the league. f*** him.

:rolleyes:

You have a despicable username, guess that's reason to hate you as well on that logic?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:40:58 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

So with Mane, if you can forgive the fact that he leaves the boot in every single game, and is a snidey dirty w*****, I get that he's a great player.

Firmino and Keita though? Really?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:43:16 am
:mackems:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:43:21 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

Firminho has the most despicable face in the league. f*** him.

Sound logic.

I like him, he's everything you'd love to see in a forward for your own team and he also reminds me of Rufio.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:44:54 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

Firminho has the most despicable face in the league. f*** him.

Sound logic.

I like him, he's everything you'd love to see in a forward for your own team and he also reminds me of Rufio.

I don't dislike him, I just don't like him. Maybe I do actually have a Liverpool bias.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:45:22 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

So with Mane, if you can forgive the fact that he leaves the boot in every single game, and is a snidey dirty w*****, I get that he's a great player.

Firmino and Keita though? Really?

Mane's a snidey, dirty w*****? :lol: Nonsense, that.

Keita seems likeable and yeah, Firmino's great, I'm not exactly sure what there is to dislike about him, aside from his supposedly 'despicable face' obviously. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:49:19 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

So with Mane, if you can forgive the fact that he leaves the boot in every single game, and is a snidey dirty w*****, I get that he's a great player.

Firmino and Keita though? Really?

Mane's a snidey, dirty w*****? :lol: Nonsense, that.

Keita seems likeable and yeah, Firmino's great, I'm not exactly sure what there is to dislike about him, aside from his supposedly 'despicable face' obviously. :lol:

Every game I watch Mane goes in on the defender after the ball is gone. He's also a diving b******.

As I just said, I don't dislike or like Firmino. I guess people have different opinions or something.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:55:51 am
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

So with Mane, if you can forgive the fact that he leaves the boot in every single game, and is a snidey dirty w*****, I get that he's a great player.

Firmino and Keita though? Really?

Mane's a snidey, dirty w*****? :lol: Nonsense, that.

Keita seems likeable and yeah, Firmino's great, I'm not exactly sure what there is to dislike about him, aside from his supposedly 'despicable face' obviously. :lol:

Every game I watch Mane goes in on the defender after the ball is gone. He's also a diving b******.

As I just said, I don't dislike or like Firmino. I guess people have different opinions or something.

Fair enough. :thup: I haven't really thought of Mane as leaving his foot in or anything, I just think it's part of Klopp's really aggressive press that they have to go in like that rather than it being malicious. I've seen a couple of interviews with him and he seems sound as well.

Imagine how much we'd love Firmino though, he never stops running which everyone loves, but with quality as well (albeit he hasn't been as great this season) 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 11:58:29 am
Firminho is brilliant imo although been a little off form this season though.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 12:00:21 pm
Firmino, Son, and Sterling are basically the first names on my team sheet as far as likeable players go.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 12:15:23 pm
Maybe you can get someone to pass them a note in math class.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 12:16:54 pm
Maybe you can get someone to pass them a note in math class.

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Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 02:06:03 pm
Firmino, Son, and Sterling are basically the first names on my team sheet as far as likeable players go.


Son and Sterling I agree with.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 02:51:13 pm
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.

@Mike

:lol: Fifteen f***ing years ago. For like a month.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 03:28:04 pm
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.

@Mike

:lol: Fifteen f***ing years ago. For like a month.

You know the rules Mike.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Chicken Dancer on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 03:31:20 pm
Firmino, Mané, Keita, Robertson, TAA, VVD, Gomez? Salah was until he started diving.

Firminho has the most despicable face in the league. f*** him.

:rolleyes:

You have a despicable username, guess that's reason to hate you as well on that logic?

Yeah mate. For sure.

Trent, Mane, Robertson are all likeable no doubt. But Firminho and Salah, nah.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:09:02 pm
There’s a ‘type’ of Liverpool fan I can’t stand so hope Man City see it through.

@Mike

:lol: Fifteen f***ing years ago. For like a month.

You know the rules Mike.

:lol: I do.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:10:10 pm
YNWA
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:13:39 pm
x 1 for just disliking Firminho 'cause of his face.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:17:00 pm
:lol: I can't like or dislike him tbh, there's nothing really to him personality wise. Or at least that's how he comes across to someone like me who pays very little attention.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:21:39 pm
x 1 for just disliking Firminho 'cause of his face.
1 x 1 = 1
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 04:47:48 pm
Just a reminder that Kaizero hates Messi as well.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 05:00:47 pm
I don't hate Messi, I just prefer Ronaldo.

Or well, I did until Ronaldo got outed as a full on rapist.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 05:30:18 pm
Okay. Fair enough.

Just a reminder that Kaizero used to hate Messi as well. :lol:

I f***ing hate Messi.

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 05:51:49 pm
Fair enough. :thup: I haven't really thought of Mane as leaving his foot in or anything, I just think it's part of Klopp's really aggressive press that they have to go in like that rather than it being malicious. I've seen a couple of interviews with him and he seems sound as well...

Are you saying that because it's a cynical, calculated and premeditated policy across the board that it's less malicious? :lol:

Just being a dick. Back to the bigger picture, looking at spending over a few years rather than one or two is most useful because we're talking about four or five teams who have an advantage in any given year that increases constantly. That means that there's plenty of room for error - if Liverpool or Man City f*** up a managerial appointment they can just pay him off and start again. If Man U or Chelsea spend a fortune on a player that doesn't work out they can just spend a fortune on another to replace them. We - and that us and you and most right-thinking football fans - are competing with teams that have incomes that completely dwarf ours year in and year out, regardless of what happens on the pitch, and that means we can't afford to hire the top-of-the-line managers or players, yet also can't afford to make mistakes.

Can’t really fault Liverpool’s spending. They have the most expensive keeper and defender in the world as they earned it fairly, including selling their best players to Barcelona and spending wisely. Citeh buy a £50m defender, if he doesn’t cut it in 3 months they’ll buy another 2 without a second thought.

I mean, I get it. It's not like Liverpool have had the sort of comedy windfall that City or Chelsea got. Yet they finished below us four times in the last four seasons, and still had more than 400M more than us to play with - their income was more than 100M more than ours per season. There is no "fair", and there never really was. I can't fault anyone's spending (let's leave Ashley out of this for now), but I can't pretend that any of this s*** is miraculous. You can only put 14 or so people out there every week, and if your 14 or so cost so much more than everybody else - and we've not even touched on salaries - then all you're going to do is rearrange the deckchairs every year.

Manchester City £429m
Manchester United £343m
Chelsea £325m
Liverpool £316m
Arsenal 248m
Tottenham £161m

Newcastle United £38m

I'm bored of my own post now. All I wanted to say was that I hate Liverpool because of decades of gloryhunting more than I hate Man City because of a few years of gloryhunting.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 07:51:34 pm
Spurs fan pleading poverty when they've spent over £700m on a new stadium.  My heart bleeds.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 16 April 2019, 07:56:11 pm
Okay. Fair enough.

Just a reminder that Kaizero used to hate Messi as well. :lol:

I f***ing hate Messi.



Hyperbole, tbf :lol: I'm obviously not a fan, however. He's being portrayed as a saint but he's (as far as I can tell) just another c***. Story of how he made a thirteen year old youth player cry being the point of no return for my disliking him :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: James on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 12:17:00 pm
I believe that Man City will triumph over Spurs in the league at the weekend as they will be better equipped to deal with the aftermath of what is going to be a big Champions League game.

From there the stage is set for a big game against Man Utd which will in my opinion decide the league.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Heake on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 12:22:39 pm
Itll be decided at ST James`s James
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 17 April 2019, 12:29:38 pm
Couldn’t care who wins the title. Want it to be full of drama till the final match.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: nufcjb on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 01:55:23 pm
Lots of noise rightly going on about Man Utd fans dilemma whether they want City to win or lose and Liverpool fans wanting to support Man Utd tonight. Whatever happens, it'll be us and Rafa stopping Liverpool. THAT'S where the real drama will happen.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 01:59:41 pm
Lots of noise rightly going on about Man Utd fans dilemma whether they want City to win or lose and Liverpool fans wanting to support Man Utd tonight. Whatever happens, it'll be us and Rafa stopping Liverpool. THAT'S where the real drama will happen.

:lol: I hate this nonsense. We don't want Liverpool to win the league, but we're hardly going to roll over at home in a derby. :lol: We'll lose, but we'll try.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 02:02:59 pm
City will batter Man Utd.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 02:38:19 pm
I hope so.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jackyboy on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 05:18:10 pm
Really want City to stuff ManU and go on to win the title. Pep seems like a gentlemans gentleman and I think they deserve it
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: geordie_b on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 05:39:04 pm
"With the finish line in sight, Paddy Power have conducted a fascinating survey asking fans of every Premier League club whether they want Liverpool or Manchester City to win the title.

Here's the results:

Liverpool fans: Liverpool 100% - 0% Manchester City
Manchester City fans: Liverpool 0% - 100% Manchester City
Tottenham fans: Liverpool 53% - 47% Manchester City
Arsenal fans: Liverpool 53% - 47% Manchester City
Chelsea fans: Liverpool 47% - 53% Manchester City
Manchester United fans: Liverpool 36% - 64% Manchester City
Everton fans: Liverpool 33% - 67% Manchester City
Watford fans: Liverpool 56% - 44% Manchester City
Leicester fans: Liverpool 60% - 40% Manchester City
Wolves fans: Liverpool 72% - 28% Manchester City
West Ham fans: Liverpool 71% - 29% Manchester City
Crystal Palace fans: Liverpool 62% - 38% Manchester City
Newcastle fans: Liverpool 64% - 36% Manchester City
Bournemouth fans: Liverpool 72% - 28% Manchester City
Burnley fans: Liverpool 50% - 50% Manchester City
Southampton fans: Liverpool 48% - 52% Manchester City
Brighton fans: Liverpool 52% - 48% Manchester City
Cardiff fans: Liverpool 59% - 41% Manchester City
Fulham fans: Liverpool 73% - 27% Manchester City
Huddersfield Town fans: Liverpool 75% - 25% Manchester City

So, 14 of the 20 top flight English clubs (including Liverpool supporters) want the Reds to raise silverware, while fans from just five Premier League teams (including City supporters) want the Blues to hold aloft the trophy in May. Burnley fans are split."


Amazed by our fans response as i'm firmly against Liverpool winning the league
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 05:45:05 pm
Really want City to stuff ManU and go on to win the title. Pep seems like a gentlemans gentleman and I think they deserve it

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Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:15:19 pm
"With the finish line in sight, Paddy Power have conducted a fascinating survey asking fans of every Premier League club whether they want Liverpool or Manchester City to win the title.

Here's the results:

Liverpool fans: Liverpool 100% - 0% Manchester City
Manchester City fans: Liverpool 0% - 100% Manchester City
Tottenham fans: Liverpool 53% - 47% Manchester City
Arsenal fans: Liverpool 53% - 47% Manchester City
Chelsea fans: Liverpool 47% - 53% Manchester City
Manchester United fans: Liverpool 36% - 64% Manchester City
Everton fans: Liverpool 33% - 67% Manchester City
Watford fans: Liverpool 56% - 44% Manchester City
Leicester fans: Liverpool 60% - 40% Manchester City
Wolves fans: Liverpool 72% - 28% Manchester City
West Ham fans: Liverpool 71% - 29% Manchester City
Crystal Palace fans: Liverpool 62% - 38% Manchester City
Newcastle fans: Liverpool 64% - 36% Manchester City
Bournemouth fans: Liverpool 72% - 28% Manchester City
Burnley fans: Liverpool 50% - 50% Manchester City
Southampton fans: Liverpool 48% - 52% Manchester City
Brighton fans: Liverpool 52% - 48% Manchester City
Cardiff fans: Liverpool 59% - 41% Manchester City
Fulham fans: Liverpool 73% - 27% Manchester City
Huddersfield Town fans: Liverpool 75% - 25% Manchester City

So, 14 of the 20 top flight English clubs (including Liverpool supporters) want the Reds to raise silverware, while fans from just five Premier League teams (including City supporters) want the Blues to hold aloft the trophy in May. Burnley fans are split."


Amazed by our fans response as i'm firmly against Liverpool winning the league

Refuse to believe 34% of Man U fans would rather Liverpool won the league.

EDIT: and 33% of Everton fans???
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: OCK on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:17:53 pm
Not bothered. I just want plastic straws back at McDonalds.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: David Edgar on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:19:02 pm
Those paper straws are the worst.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:19:59 pm
Those paper straws are the worst.

Absolutely it's like sucking through a wool jumper
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:39:52 pm
C'mon Citeh :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Willow on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 07:45:03 pm
C'mon Manure  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 09:29:20 pm
:D
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 09:29:51 pm
f*** Man City and everything they represent.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Gallowgate End on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 09:49:12 pm
f*** Man City and everything they represent.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 09:58:14 pm
f*** Liverpool and everything they represent.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 09:59:53 pm
f*** Liverpool winning it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:00:50 pm
f*** anyone winning it tbh hate everybody in the top 6 at present (well not spurs thats just a mild dislike)
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:02:40 pm
f*** Man City and everything they represent.

Say that s*** yourself, don't change my quote. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:02:54 pm
f*** Liverpool and Mike Ashley.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:15:06 pm
Didn't realise Liverpool play us in between their Barca matches. Cannot see Rafa rolling over, and think it will be where Liverpool stumble.

Here's hoping, anyway :thup:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:18:47 pm
f*** Democracy and everything it represents.

Wow, KI. Wow.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:21:39 pm
Didn't realise Liverpool play us in between their Barca matches. Cannot see Rafa rolling over, and think it will be where Liverpool stumble.

Here's hoping, anyway :thup:

Not gonna matter anyway, city will win remaining games.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Rompe on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:22:35 pm
Okay. Fair enough.

Just a reminder that Kaizero used to hate Messi as well. :lol:

I f***ing hate Messi.



Hyperbole, tbf :lol: I'm obviously not a fan, however. He's being portrayed as a saint but he's (as far as I can tell) just another c***. Story of how he made a thirteen year old youth player cry being the point of no return for my disliking him :lol:

Wait, what? When was this?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Pata on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:28:36 pm
Man City is the harmless option out of everyone on the top 6, f*** everyone else (Spurs out of pure jealousy tbh). Man City have won it so many times already that I doubt even their fans really get much pleasure from winning it. And against Liverpool it's a real no contest as f*** Liverpool and their c*** fans.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:31:09 pm
They're the only ones built on slavery like, so not really.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Pata on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:54:30 pm
Harmless was a poor choice of word but someone still has to win it and I just don't have the same old hatred towards City that I have against everyone else.

And obviously strong IMO.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 10:56:41 pm
Abu Dhabi group has made their fortune on oil tbf. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kid Icarus on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 11:10:20 pm
Sticking to solely football it's a coin toss for me, they're both exceptional purist football teams and champions in most other seasons I suspect.

It probably swings it that I like Klopp, my grandad was a Scouser, albeit not into football, I don't know any annoying glory hunter scousers, and Man City have got the unlimited funds and very dodgy human rights connection going against it. I've also kind of gone from really appreciating their outstanding football last season, to absolute boredom at watching them just systematically dismantle teams this season like a casual machine and feeling like there's no sense of competition in matches and if not for what looks like an unbelievable effort from Liverpool, the league too. They're like Ivan Drago.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Wednesday 24 April 2019, 11:15:34 pm
Sticking to solely football it's a coin toss for me, they're both exceptional purist football teams and champions in most other seasons I suspect.

It probably swings it that I like Klopp, my grandad was a Scouser, albeit not into football, I don't know any annoying glory hunter scousers, and Man City have got the unlimited funds and very dodgy human rights connection going against it. I've also kind of gone from really appreciating their outstanding football last season, to absolute boredom at watching them just systematically dismantle teams this season like a casual machine and feeling like there's no sense of competition in matches and if not for what looks like an unbelievable effort from Liverpool, the league too. They're like Ivan Drago.

I think this is the key difference. I'm older, and grew up surrounded by the f***ers. Non-Liverpool fans my age really hate the f***ers, and have been nursing that hate for decades.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 25 April 2019, 07:07:19 am
Didn't realise Liverpool play us in between their Barca matches. Cannot see Rafa rolling over, and think it will be where Liverpool stumble.

Here's hoping, anyway :thup:

Not gonna matter anyway, city will win remaining games.

City are favourites still, but Burnley away could be a bigger challenge than Man U. Burnley can be quite determined, and they'll have had an extra two days' rest.

As for us, I can see us losing our last three games. Now we're safe, and with players out, I think we'll switch off like we did last season.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Stottie on Thursday 25 April 2019, 07:11:50 am
Didn't realise Liverpool play us in between their Barca matches. Cannot see Rafa rolling over, and think it will be where Liverpool stumble.

Here's hoping, anyway :thup:

I didn't realise either.

fwiw, I reckon we'd get something with Lejeune, Schar and Almiron, but I don't know with their replacements. Less pace and playmaking from the back makes it much easier for them. As a background, I am a believer in the fixture list being much more important than is claimed. For us, no wins until November would have seen off a less established manager than Rafa, simply due to hard fixtures. Had Brighton had the same fixtures, Hughton probably would have gone.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 25 April 2019, 07:23:54 am
Didn't realise Liverpool play us in between their Barca matches. Cannot see Rafa rolling over, and think it will be where Liverpool stumble.

Here's hoping, anyway :thup:

I didn't realise either.

fwiw, I reckon we'd get something with Lejeune, Schar and Almiron, but I don't know with their replacements. Less pace and playmaking from the back makes it much easier for them. As a background, I am a believer in the fixture list being much more important than is claimed. For us, no wins until November would have seen off a less established manager than Rafa, simply due to hard fixtures. Had Brighton had the same fixtures, Hughton probably would have gone.

Schar will be playing.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 25 April 2019, 07:33:50 am
That must be soul destroying for Liverpool watching Man City come through those two games the way they did like. Can see Liverpool drawing up here.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 25 April 2019, 08:10:11 am
The team who have Bernardo Silva will win it as he’s the best player in the league this season.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Chicken Dancer on Thursday 25 April 2019, 08:31:04 am
The team who have Bernardo Silva will win it as he’s the best player in the league this season.

My favourite non-NUFC player about at the minute.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 25 April 2019, 08:39:56 am
Aye :thup:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 25 April 2019, 08:53:14 am
The team who have Bernardo Silva will win it as he’s the best player in the league this season.

He's a little genius isn't he. Wonderful player.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ketsbaia on Thursday 25 April 2019, 11:16:48 am
Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Aguero, Sterling, De Bruyne....... such a big fan of them all. Kompany used to be class too. Makes them more likeable than the rest of the top six, imo.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 25 April 2019, 11:40:22 am
The team who have Bernardo Silva will win it as he’s the best player in the league this season.

He's a little genius isn't he. Wonderful player.

Special player, so enjoyable to watch. The way he moves, positions he takes up, final delivery. Got the lot.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: TBG on Thursday 25 April 2019, 11:47:08 am
That must be soul destroying for Liverpool watching Man City come through those two games the way they did like. Can see Liverpool drawing up here.

If it does end in a draw, reckon we'll get criticized (again) for sticking to our game plan and not going at them.

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Decky on Thursday 25 April 2019, 12:50:14 pm
That must be soul destroying for Liverpool watching Man City come through those two games the way they did like. Can see Liverpool drawing up here.

If it does end in a draw, reckon we'll get criticized (again) for sticking to our game plan and not going at them.



Sky love Liverpool so they will destroy us for taking points off them. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Decky on Thursday 25 April 2019, 12:51:29 pm
I still think Burnley away is a test for City but the title race is 99% done like.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: OCK on Thursday 25 April 2019, 12:52:42 pm
If only Liverpool had earned more points than City, they'd top of the league.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 25 April 2019, 12:53:10 pm
I still think Burnley away is a test for City but the title race is 99% done like.
true but wolves for liverpool on the last day is hardly a walk over either
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 25 April 2019, 01:08:35 pm
this the highest points in a title race then, or likely to end up so?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Thursday 25 April 2019, 01:48:26 pm
Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Aguero, Sterling, De Bruyne....... such a big fan of them all. Kompany used to be class too. Makes them more likeable than the rest of the top six, imo.

This is exactly where I'm at too. Could watch those players all day. And Gundogan.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 25 April 2019, 02:28:53 pm
Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Aguero, Sterling, De Bruyne....... such a big fan of them all. Kompany used to be class too. Makes them more likeable than the rest of the top six, imo.

This is exactly where I'm at too. Could watch those players all day. And Gundogan.

I'm so happy he's good again :lol: there was a time after his success at Dortmund where he had long injuries i legitimately thought he'd never be good again.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:42:48 pm
City
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:43:25 pm
We are all sky blue.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:48:18 pm
Citeh, 1000%.

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:48:35 pm
Citeh, 1000%.


Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: TRon on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:50:14 pm
Would be a travesty if Liverpool won it after tonight. They didn't score a decent goal yet still ended up with three.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:50:31 pm
How many points have Liverpool won by cheating this season? 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: TRon on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:51:56 pm
How many points have Liverpool won by cheating this season? 

They were brilliant first half of the season, no idea how they have been picking up wins for the last couple of months.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: chicago_shearer on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:53:35 pm
Wasn’t particularly bothered before today but I’ll take a dubious 89min City penalty on Monday please.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Sifu on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:55:17 pm
f*** Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: bigfella on Saturday 4 May 2019, 09:56:51 pm
Wasn’t particularly bothered before today but I’ll take a dubious 89min City penalty on Monday please.

Exactly this. f*** Liverpool now.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:11:34 pm
f*** off Liverpool, as if anyone wants these c***s to win it :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:14:00 pm
(https://d2x51gyc4ptf2q.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2019/03/21101211/Liverpool-coach-bus-this-means-more.jpg)

That's the red cherry on top of a cake full of motivation for City to win it.

"This means more" ffs.  The self-entitled w*****s.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: nufcjb on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:14:11 pm
City. Even before tonight. Couldn't stand the commentary from Tyler tonight. Can't imagine if they do go on to win it and the wanking will be never ending.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:14:35 pm
f*** off Liverpool, as if anyone wants these c***s to win it :lol:
As if anyone wanted the c***s to win even before today tbf
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:16:16 pm
f*** off Liverpool, as if anyone wants these c***s to win it :lol:
As if anyone wanted the c***s to win even before today tbf

Thats what i mean.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:16:20 pm
There’s normally some site or paper that has a table if the correct decisions were awarded. Would love to see this for this season if there is one.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: taxfree on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:18:29 pm
Please City. I need Sadio, Henderson, Van Dijk, TAA, Klopp, Milner and Fabinho in absolute tears.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:42:10 pm
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:45:11 pm
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Robster on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:49:06 pm
Clearly Liverpool are going to win it now, just to rub salt into our wounds.
NUFC fans never get what we want.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:51:18 pm
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
He actually is :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: godzilla on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:52:04 pm
Clearly Liverpool are going to win it now, just to rub salt into our wounds.
NUFC fans never get what we want.

City are just too good to let it slip I think and they couldn't really have two better games
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:53:44 pm
(https://d2x51gyc4ptf2q.cloudfront.net/content/uploads/2019/03/21101211/Liverpool-coach-bus-this-means-more.jpg)

That's the red cherry on top of a cake full of motivation for City to win it.

"This means more" ffs.  The self-entitled w*****s.

That's a earth sized chip on your shoulder.  Most clubs have slogans man ffs.

I haven't heard you moan on about Barca's "mes que un club".
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:55:05 pm
Just as bad. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Wilson on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:56:08 pm
My irrational hatred of all things Liverpool says I want City to win.

Also the verbal blow jobs Liverpool will receive if they win will be unbearable.

Nice little snap shot of this tonight after the match by all accounts.

Absolutely want these to come away with nothing.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 4 May 2019, 10:58:57 pm
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
He actually is :lol:

He's from the f***ing wirral isn't he? :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 4 May 2019, 11:13:03 pm
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
He actually is :lol:

He's from the f***ing wirral isn't he? :lol:

Supports Tranmere according to this - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36075347

But seemingly not allowed to ref Liverpool since 2006.......

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Dean was originally appointed to referee the 2006 FA Cup final at the Millennium Stadium on 13 May 2006 but the Football Association later replaced him with Alan Wiley after concerns were raised about Dean's ability to be impartial towards Liverpool
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ketsbaia on Sunday 5 May 2019, 01:03:39 am
Absolutely desperate for these c***s to win nothing. So jammy tonight.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Wilson on Sunday 5 May 2019, 01:33:34 am
Absolutely desperate for these c***s to win nothing. So jammy tonight.

I dunno about jammy, all come down to that lino. Sounds a bit knee-jerk/hyperbole but he fuckin was fuckin corrupt :lol:

The dive, and a few mins later nowt for Ritchie taking an elbow in the head. Was right in front of us.

Tbf it was just all s***... Was a few incidents in the couple of mins before half time that had me fuming. We were getting f*** all.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Pilko on Sunday 5 May 2019, 01:34:37 am
I hope City win the title more than ever now. Cheating wall pushing c***s.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 5 May 2019, 02:31:27 am
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
He actually is :lol:

He's from the f***ing wirral isn't he? :lol:

Supports Tranmere according to this - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36075347

But seemingly not allowed to ref Liverpool since 2006.......

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Quote
Dean was originally appointed to referee the 2006 FA Cup final at the Millennium Stadium on 13 May 2006 but the Football Association later replaced him with Alan Wiley after concerns were raised about Dean's ability to be impartial towards Liverpool

That's incredible, how the f*** can he ref the city game then.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 May 2019, 02:38:34 am
In my head I feel like city players under pep have never really dove and play acted against our Rafa sides. Where as salah, and media love child Virgil have been given free reign.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Anderson on Sunday 5 May 2019, 03:24:00 am
Wonder who Mike Dean wants to win.

He doing city leicester?
He actually is :lol:

He's from the f***ing wirral isn't he? :lol:

Supports Tranmere according to this - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36075347

But seemingly not allowed to ref Liverpool since 2006.......

edit:

Quote
Dean was originally appointed to referee the 2006 FA Cup final at the Millennium Stadium on 13 May 2006 but the Football Association later replaced him with Alan Wiley after concerns were raised about Dean's ability to be impartial towards Liverpool

Oh, brilliant, just know this is going to end in controversy. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: covmag on Sunday 5 May 2019, 05:03:12 am
100% behind Man City now  O0
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 5 May 2019, 06:46:54 am
Howay Citeh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 5 May 2019, 09:34:25 am
Liverpool won't have an easy match against Wolves. They have taken 4 points from Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea, 3 from Spurs and 1 from Man City and have only lost to Liverpool and Man City when playing against the top 6 clubs and they had to play Man City with 10 men away from home. I still think Man City will drop points most likely away to Brighton with the pressure of being relegated now off them. I would still rather Liverpool win the league despite the media and some of their fans going to be insufferable about it.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 5 May 2019, 09:45:55 am
Liverpool won't have an easy match against Wolves. They have taken 4 points from Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea, 3 from Spurs and 1 from Man City and have only lost to Liverpool and Man City when playing against the top 6 clubs and they had to play Man City with 10 men away from home. I still think Man City will drop points most likely away to Brighton with the pressure of being relegated now off them. I would still rather Liverpool win the league despite the media and some of their fans going to be insufferable about it.

Can’t see how a rubbish team at odds with their coach and no longer under pressure to get results are suddenly going to challenge the best team of the last decade.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Robster on Sunday 5 May 2019, 09:52:28 am
Liverpool won't have an easy match against Wolves. They have taken 4 points from Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea, 3 from Spurs and 1 from Man City and have only lost to Liverpool and Man City when playing against the top 6 clubs and they had to play Man City with 10 men away from home. I still think Man City will drop points most likely away to Brighton with the pressure of being relegated now off them. I would still rather Liverpool win the league despite the media and some of their fans going to be insufferable about it.
Can’t see how a rubbish team at odds with their coach and no longer under pressure to get results are suddenly going to challenge the best team of the last decade.

Because things like that often happen for Liverpool. Feels like it's all going their way.
In saying that, and although there is only one game left, I've felt for a while that they have a dodgy result coming their way. I thought it was going to be last night originally.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 5 May 2019, 09:59:24 am
Hope Man City destroy Leicester early on Monday. Would be a kick in the nuts after they survived us by the skin of their teeth only for Man City to thrash Leicester.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Robster on Sunday 5 May 2019, 10:01:11 am
Hope Man City destroy Leicester early on Monday. Would be a kick in the nuts after they survived us by the skin of their teeth only for Man City to thrash Leicester.
I had the same thought. 4 or 5 nil would be sweet.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 5 May 2019, 10:05:19 am
Hope Man City destroy Leicester early on Monday. Would be a kick in the nuts after they survived us by the skin of their teeth only for Man City to thrash Leicester.
I had the same thought. 4 or 5 nil would be sweet.

Yep, no glimmer of hope throughout, just a tanking.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 5 May 2019, 10:34:36 am
Liverpool won't have an easy match against Wolves. They have taken 4 points from Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea, 3 from Spurs and 1 from Man City and have only lost to Liverpool and Man City when playing against the top 6 clubs and they had to play Man City with 10 men away from home. I still think Man City will drop points most likely away to Brighton with the pressure of being relegated now off them. I would still rather Liverpool win the league despite the media and some of their fans going to be insufferable about it.

Can’t see how a rubbish team at odds with their coach and no longer under pressure to get results are suddenly going to challenge the best team of the last decade.

I'm not aware of any fall out between Hughton and his players, but they should play with more freedom and take more risks now there chance of them being relegated. When I say Man City could likely drop points against Brighton I mean in comparison to their match against Leicester because they are very strong at home and have dropped most of their points this season away from home.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ujpest doza on Sunday 5 May 2019, 10:41:30 am
Man City are a much better team than them cheating scouse t***s.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:05:15 pm
Man City are a much better team than them cheating scouse t***s.

Yes they are but I fear their title was won at St James' last night. Refs will make sure City don't win it now.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:07:27 pm
Man City are a much better team than them cheating scouse t***s.
Refs will make sure City don't win it now.

This is absolute bullshit.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Chicken Dancer on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:15:20 pm
It would be absolutely glorious for these c***s to finish on 97pts and win absolutely f*** all this season. They’d probably have a minutes silence first game next season.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:39:18 pm
It would be absolutely glorious for these c***s to finish on 97pts and win absolutely f*** all this season. They’d probably have a minutes silence first game next season next hundred years or so.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:40:40 pm
Just don’t care for teams complaining about diving from other European squads when they do the same s***.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: nufcjb on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:46:44 pm
It was just last night. How many times have we seen Salah won dubios penalties this season? How many times have they gone and complaint about others like, against Barca? They have done it numerous times just because it didn't go their way.

Yes maybe I'm forgetting anything City have got lucky with but the media wanking over them is just over the top. Just look at Tyler last night trying to defend the non-red card fot TAA and barely mentioning the dive by Fabinho in the lead up to their winner. They will barely bat an eye-lid for Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Sunday 5 May 2019, 12:55:49 pm
Still want Liverpool to win for the non footballing reasons but don't really like them as a side and don't think they're as good as their points tally suggests
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 5 May 2019, 03:11:40 pm
Man City are a much better team than them cheating scouse t***s.
Refs will make sure City don't win it now.

This is absolute bullshit.

Oh right, so the linesman from last night just made an honest mistake eh?
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 May 2019, 05:24:06 pm
Would crack the f*** up if Man City took it to Leicester early in the match too. Like 2-0 or 3-0 within 30 minutes.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 5 May 2019, 05:24:55 pm
Comment above makes me firmly in hope City win it camp :lol: there’s no way around my f*** off to Liverpool after yesterday. I was rooting for Messi to destroy them midweek too.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Sunday 5 May 2019, 05:34:42 pm
Man City are a much better team than them cheating scouse t***s.
Refs will make sure City don't win it now.

This is absolute bullshit.

Oh right, so the linesman from last night just made an honest mistake eh?
Probably aye
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Andy84 on Monday 6 May 2019, 03:28:49 pm
Across the media/jounos and in general people seem to think Leicester have a really good chance of getting something tonight.  Totally disagree, think City will win very comfortably
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: NUFCDoog on Monday 6 May 2019, 04:21:24 pm
I think it’s a combination of the media wanting them too (As clearly the media narrative is wanting a Liverpool title win) Liverpool fans desperately trying to convince themselves Leicester will and fans of every other club who don’t want Liverpool to win it shitting themselves that Leicester will get something and trying to prepare for it by convincing themselves it’s going to happen so it’ll be so much better when City do hopefully win.

Have a bad feeling about it myself and I think i fall into that last category, be keeping a nervy eye on the scores at Fulham next week even if City do win tonight but it’ll be horrendous in general if they don’t.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Boo Boy on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 08:45:30 am
I genuinely jumped up when City scored. I don't know anyone who wants pitypool to win the league.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Froggy on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 08:52:54 am
Aside from Everton/Manchester United fans, I don't see why anyone would want City to win the league to be honest. :lol: I'm glad so many are against Liverpool though, but they're an infinitely better club than City.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 11:55:11 am
97 points or whatever they finish on and not winning the league is going to f***ing hurt  :lol:

You'd rather not get that close if in the end you don't win it.

Shame.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Stottie on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 11:58:08 am
Shouldn't Man U fans dislike Man City more than Liverpool?  :lol: It's a hard-to-imagine scenario, but there is no way we'd want Sunderland to beat Man Utd or anyone else.

Liverpool scored vital goals off dives in both games against us this season. That should be reason enough to dislike this particular version of Liverpool, yes, the ninety-something point Klopp version, as opposed whatever we may think of Liverpool Football Club as a whole.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 11:59:59 am
Shouldn't Man U fans dislike Man City more than Liverpool?  :lol: It's a hard-to-imagine scenario, but there is no way we'd want Sunderland to beat Man Utd or anyone else.

Liverpool scored vital goals off dives in both games against us this season. That should be reason enough to dislike this particular version of Liverpool, yes, the ninety-something point Klopp version, as opposed whatever we may think of Liverpool Football Club as a whole.

City have always just been noisy neighbours to Man U, never challenged them in terms of trophies til recently.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:00:52 pm
It's City's now. Not a chance Brighton get a result against them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:04:00 pm
Read the last few pages of the "chasing the title" thread on rawk.

Talk about deluded  :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:05:13 pm
Shouldn't Man U fans dislike Man City more than Liverpool?  :lol: It's a hard-to-imagine scenario, but there is no way we'd want Sunderland to beat Man Utd or anyone else.

Liverpool scored vital goals off dives in both games against us this season. That should be reason enough to dislike this particular version of Liverpool, yes, the ninety-something point Klopp version, as opposed whatever we may think of Liverpool Football Club as a whole.

You only have to listen to the atmosphere in the man u v man c games, it's just like any other game.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:09:02 pm
"I mean, we quite CLEARLY have bad luck, there's no f***ing way any other club in european football can reel off a list like below over the last 5 or 6 years.

2014 Premier League -  Our captain slips up to cost us our first title in 25 odd years

2016 Europa League  - Our best defender at the time is banned for a drug test that is later found to be bullshit

2018 Champions League - Our goalkeeper makes the worst mistake you will ever see, you literally wont see anything like this in a CL final again in your lifetime

2019 Premier League      - We get the third highest points tally in the history of the English game and don't win the title because a ball doesn't go 11mm further over a f***ing line

We always seem to have some mad moment go against us at a pivotal moment when it looks rosey. I can't believe some LFC fans on this forum get s*** for being deflated when we've been subject to the above."

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:11:04 pm
That does sound like bad luck TBF.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:12:50 pm
That does sound like bad luck TBF.

Not sure if serious.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:15:27 pm
Thinking about signing up on their forum, "Magpie marra in peace".. Doubt they like us anymore though :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:17:23 pm
They are gutted that everyone hates them, they think everyone should want them to win it over city as they are a 'proper' football club rather than plastic.

 :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 12:39:57 pm
"After we lost to City in January we were 4 points clear with 48 available.  If we beat Wolves we’ll have gone 16 games unbeaten, taking 40 points, including 9 straight wins when it really counts.

That in itself is one of the best runs ever, but look at what it gets you.  I mean I try not to be bitter about this but there is something broken here, when City can reel off the second-best run of all time (second only to their own stupid run from last season), mostly like it ain’t no thing.

It’s a bit like the supercomputers they’ve built that have ‘solved’ Chess, or Go.  The top players have sunk their lives into achieving 99% mastery of these incredibly difficult tasks with hundreds of years of history, and now it’s immediately all pointless because some Silicon Valley nerds saw it as an opportunity to showcase their coding skills so as to attract venture capital."


Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Stottie on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 01:01:56 pm
Quote from:  some scouser
2018 Champions League - Our goalkeeper makes the worst mistake you will ever see, you literally wont see anything like this in a CL final again in your lifetime

Just saying, but Lloris did it in the World Cup final about two months later.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 01:56:22 pm
That does sound like bad luck TBF.

They class one incident (the ball not crossing the line) as their bad luck, but fail to mention the 10-12 goals they've had this season from cheating. Yeah, fairly unlucky that.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:13:25 pm
They are gutted that everyone hates them, they think everyone should want them to win it over city as they are a 'proper' football club rather than plastic.

 :lol:

Aye, I think it’s killing them.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:14:43 pm
So with both games being shown at the same time, there's obviously going to be a good period of time where Liverpool are leading and City are drawing. We really really need a 94th minute Aguero goal again to f*** the scousers off.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:16:40 pm
I’d sooner Man City go 2-0 up within 15 mins and wrap the thing up. Was nervy for a spell last night thinking it might be one of those nights.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:17:11 pm
I’d sooner Man City go 2-0 up within 15 mins and wrap the thing up. Was nervy for a spell last night thinking it might be one of those nights.

Oh completely, but we know that won't happen.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:21:55 pm
Can they not take a look at themselves and wonder why so many people would rather see the usually universally disliked Citeh win it ahead of them? :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: leffe186 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:36:03 pm
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2yl6zoi.jpg)

So here's the thing. I don't know much about the specific incidents here other than the Spurs ones. Two of ours were errors by the refs, but clearly we have players who dive, so I can't complain about us getting four. But Liverpool getting zero yellows for diving is insane.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:38:45 pm
Can they not take a look at themselves and wonder why so many people would rather see the usually universally disliked Citeh win it ahead of them? :lol:

They lack self awareness and live in their own bubble.

It's about to go pop, well it did last night.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:40:38 pm
Salah should have more than a handful by himself :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: jackyboy on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 02:46:40 pm
Really want MC to win because of the points Liverpool have got through blatant cheating just like Saturday.  I know there is the issue of the money thrown at Man City but I have to say that their football is a delight to watch and Pep is a true gentleman.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: County Durham Mag on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 03:13:17 pm
Can they not take a look at themselves and wonder why so many people would rather see the usually universally disliked Citeh win it ahead of them? :lol:

They lack self awareness and live in their own bubble.

It's about to go pop, well it did last night.

Sounds like the small time lot down the road also
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 03:31:04 pm
Someone will probably prove me wrong instantly but don’t think I can ever remember a player of ours being booked for diving. We’re a pretty honest side
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 03:33:19 pm
Someone will probably prove me wrong instantly but don’t think I can ever remember a player of ours being booked for diving. We’re a pretty honest side

Gayle against City a couple of years back
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 04:49:34 pm
Someone will probably prove me wrong instantly but don’t think I can ever remember a player of ours being booked for diving. We’re a pretty honest side

Very honest. Can think of a couple of occasions just in the past 3 weeks where we could have won a penalty but played on. Occasions involving Schar & Atsu spring to mind.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: geordie john on Tuesday 7 May 2019, 05:00:21 pm
Really want MC to win because of the points Liverpool have got through blatant cheating just like Saturday.  I know there is the issue of the money thrown at Man City but I have to say that their football is a delight to watch and Pep is a true gentleman.

100% agree with you. The football they have played has been simply sublime and I have watched them in awe. OK< they've spend mad amounts of money but that doesn't bring success or good football. Manure springs to mind! They are just on a different planet.
If Liverpool had played the same then I'd be happy for them to win it, but I hate, I mean HATE, cheating diving cun#s. And the whingeing fans really take the biscuit for the most annoying. I sense they feel they deserve it. No they don't.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 07:55:32 pm
?s=21

f***ing hell. :lol:
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 08:53:00 pm
f***ing hate their fans
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 09:02:40 pm
Fair enough tbh.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 09:08:41 pm
The Fat c*** deserves it
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 09:09:45 pm
Jesus wept...
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 09:13:23 pm
Someone will probably prove me wrong instantly but don’t think I can ever remember a player of ours being booked for diving. We’re a pretty honest side

Think Jonas got one on his debut against Man Utd
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 8 May 2019, 09:24:26 pm
The Fat c*** deserves it

No need for that.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 01:47:26 am
The Fat c*** deserves it

No need for that.

The c*** deserves it then.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 9 May 2019, 02:00:55 am
?s=21

Shouldn’t p*ss me off, but I bit...think the journalist clearly means GK & defence which started those two games.

Alisson £66.8m
Alexander-Arnold Free
Robertson £8m
Van Dijk £75m
Lovren £20m

Ederson £35m
Walker £50m
Zinchenko £1.7m
Kompany £8m
Laporte £57m

LFC = £169.8m v MCFC = £151.7m
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 9 May 2019, 12:20:12 pm
Oh, yes, of course, £18-19m difference is what truly makes the difference between the two teams!

Not the clubs' coaching and the players unique combination of attributes and its effects.

It shouldn't p*ss me off that far too many people quantify football today and that its qualitative nature is forgotten about, but there you go. 
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 9 May 2019, 12:24:13 pm
Way to miss the point, Francis.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 9 May 2019, 01:07:00 pm
I was addressing the general notion of judging or expectations based on transfer fees, not the tweet's purpose of showing they're (City v Liverpool) are generally equal. Okay, Jimmy?

 

Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 10 May 2019, 02:25:05 pm
Don’t particularly like Neville but I like this. :lol:

?s=21
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 10 May 2019, 02:55:31 pm
Liverpool have been tremendous in the transfer market and every deal for the last few years looks like a good deal. 

Excellent business all round. But they do have the most expensive GK and CB in the world.

City have bought welll but they haven’t been as smart.  Liverpool have made sure to sign their first targets no matter the cost.  But sometimes their first target is £10m and severely under rated with a high ceiling. 


City spent 60m on Mahrez. He’s a top player but they barely use him. He’d be closer to Liverpool’s XI
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Ian W on Friday 10 May 2019, 02:59:59 pm
City had a higher bar as well though, they were trying to improve on what was already the best team by a mile.
Title: Re: The Title Race
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 10 May 2019, 03:51:26 pm
:thup:

Easier to upgrade on the likes of Mignolet, Lovren, Moreno & Sturridge over the last two seasons.