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Title: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:15:50 pm
I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?

Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.

Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:19:28 pm
Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:20:31 pm
Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.

Aye, I've cursed the poor lad. Hope he likes playing for Gateshead  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Chicane on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:27:07 pm
Surprised by how big he is.

Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Menace on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:35:44 pm
Written off by page 3 and sold by page 12.

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 06:45:12 pm
Where does he play?

Can he do a shift up front?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:42:58 pm
Canny pace bowler for Tynemouth in NEPL as well.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:48:26 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:53:08 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 08:53:50 pm
He’ll be in the England squad for the next World Cup 👍
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:04:13 pm
Good cricketer.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:05:42 pm
8 goals last season in League One.

Guess we will try to send him on loan to a Championship club.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:11:08 pm
This c*** been sold yet?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:13:52 pm
He was set to sign for Portsmouth on loan but club have pulled it. Either Rafa likes the look of him or we want him playing at a higher standard.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:14:16 pm
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:16:32 pm
1 in 1 out, who are we going to have to sell to keep him on the books
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 09:16:59 pm
He was set to sign for Portsmouth on loan but club have pulled it. Either Rafa likes the look of him or we want him playing at a higher standard.

Or we're potentially short of bodies with Hayden's situation.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 10:35:02 pm
He's a very decent seam bowler, so at least he'll have that to fall back on.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 18 July 2018, 11:17:52 pm
Hi Sean.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Zero on Thursday 19 July 2018, 06:46:19 am
Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:16:06 am
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

 :lol: That's the spirit!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:07:36 am
I think he deserves a chance with the first team, he did really well in his loan to Blackpool last year and scored a few crackers, and scored in his first friendly with us, we need to give him time and patience and see how he can develop.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:15:06 am
Written off by page 1 and sold by page 2

And we were making love by page 3
And on page 4, page 5 and page 6
We chilled on seven.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sleazy on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:17:01 am
I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?

Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.

Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.

his dad (former GB ice hockey player) David is a big bloke too so not surprising.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:35:32 am
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.

:thup:

Given Ashley's being a massive c*** with signing players, we desperately need a few gems to come good from the academy.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:41:50 am
Even if Ashley wasn't a c*** I'd want young players to come through. Despite our failures in the academy there are about 5 or 6 right now I have high hopes for.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Thursday 19 July 2018, 10:49:32 am
Even if Ashley wasn't a c*** I'd want young players to come through. Despite our failures in the academy there are about 5 or 6 right now I have high hopes for.

Not quite sure why you would say that - surely everyone wants young players to come through at all times? - but if we are not making first team signings then it's even more helpful if they do come through.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:01:52 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

 :lol: That's the spirit!

:lol: weighed and measured, shame for the lad that no player has ever improved as they get older
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sean on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:13:25 pm
Theres been literally no investment in the youth academy since Ashley took over, it'd be a minor miracle if any of them turn into PL players  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 19 July 2018, 07:17:18 pm
Money doesn't make players good  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 19 July 2018, 08:43:41 pm
Money doesn't make players good  [emoji38]
Of course it does. Unless I'm being wooshed
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Thursday 19 July 2018, 08:46:01 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

Quick judgement. Harsh
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mighty__mag on Friday 20 July 2018, 11:18:53 am
Surprised by how big he is.

Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing

 :lol: class
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sean on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:38:02 pm
Money doesn't make players good  :lol:

 :lol:

Don't know where to start tbh...money lets you bring in better young players for a start. Then better facilities, coaching etc. We just go for local lads no other club decides to take and then let Beardsley et al 'coach' them  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Menace on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:41:15 pm
Coaches them and then calls them immigrants after
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 20 July 2018, 06:41:22 pm
Best tell the likes of city before they invest anymore in the academy.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:12:07 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nufc4eva on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:20:42 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

But it can be developed and nurtured. We just produce the non-league players of the future in this tin pot club
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:34:27 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?

Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kid Icarus on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:39:00 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgct3Jn8pFA
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kid Icarus on Friday 20 July 2018, 08:42:19 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?

Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team

and that's before getting onto how the talent that we do have are often more attracted to the likes of 'boro, where the youth development pisses all over ours. Dunno how anyone could say what Liam's said with a straight face tbh. Our lack of backing for local talent is why we ended up having to pay a world record fee for a player that should have been with us from the beginning but might have ended up on the scrap heap if he'd stayed, same with Beardsley and Carrick.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:07:15 am
Surprised by how big he is.

Well they don't call him longstaff for nothing

 :lol: class

He came good in a FM game for me so I dubbed him Sean Big Dick. Still think of him as this...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:44:03 am
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.
I dont got posts like this. He's young. just scored a goal and made a man of the match performance in his first professional game for us, yet gets written off.
Bang on. Unless Sewelly’s been to plenty reserve matches/Blackpool games where Longstaff played it’s a bit of a sad comment.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:22:29 pm
I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:52:18 pm
I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.

In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Saturday 21 July 2018, 02:59:39 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:00:49 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

Off the back of one game? I mean he's probably got a good future but that seems pretty crazy
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:17:46 pm
It is very crazy. He should be out on loan again.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:26:26 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

So do you think that the reason we've barely created any academy talents recently is because all of the players we've had coming through haven't had natural talent?

Because I'd put a large part of it down to money not being spent properly on facilities and good coaching in the academy and first team

Yep
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 21 July 2018, 03:42:59 pm
I think predicting one of our youth players will make a career for himself in the Football League is a fairly optimistic post to be honest.

In general terms for the current youth players, yes. In the case of a young player that has already proven himself successful at League 1 level - no.

Maybe.

However, if a player is reaching 21 and has never been involved at any England level I'd be a bit apprehensive about his PL potential.

Obviously there's counter examples and lets hope he's one of them.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Sunday 22 July 2018, 03:45:11 pm
People became good footballers before millions were spent on academies, no? A player's natural talent can't be influenced by money.

They did and it can be argued that academies have actually had a negative effect on natural talent, we are certainly seeing fewer type of players or different styles, but that isn’t why NUFC fail to produce any talent.

It is out there, but when they end up at the club a combination of poor facilities and coaching prevents them from developing and when they do get to 18-20 their chances of making it at the club is almost non existent and just as slim making it as a pro even lower down.

Players that have a bit more about them and do break into the first-team need a manager who values youth and who can develop thing in an environment that allows that.

Under Keegan and Sir Bobby to an extent where we had a team of good players and there was a pressure to win and challenge, unless a player was of undoubted talent, their route into the team would likely be blocked by a big money signing which is the kind of players fans demand and a team challenging needs.

Today, we could really do with a pool of talent coming through because we have an environment where we don’t have the kind of money to go and blow on certain positions and a manager that values youth and is renowned for developing it.

But our owner doesn’t care about any of that and as such our immediate future on the pitch is weakened by not having an academy or facilities up to scratch that young kids want to join (they opt for Boro or Sunderland more often than not) and if they do, they won’t develop to any decent standard anyway.

Andy Carrol and Dumett man :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dave on Sunday 22 July 2018, 04:25:59 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

f***ing hell. :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Rich on Sunday 22 July 2018, 05:33:40 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

f***ing hell. :lol:

Is Odin a joke account?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 22 July 2018, 07:30:38 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

f***ing hell. [emoji38]

Is Odin a joke account?
Takes one to know one
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kaizero on Sunday 22 July 2018, 07:31:04 pm
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

f***ing hell. [emoji38]

Is Odin a joke account?
Takes one to know one

So is he, then?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: CPL on Monday 23 July 2018, 08:42:58 pm
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:37:02 pm
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.

He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:43:18 pm
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.

He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.

Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.

Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:45:27 pm
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.

He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.

Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.

Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from  O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:50:12 pm
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.

He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.

Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.

Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from  O0

It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 23 July 2018, 09:57:48 pm
He won’t start ahead of Shelvey, Diame or Ki but if Hayden does leave he’ll be next in line.

He’s more than capable to fill in and he’ll learn loads over the next few months being involved with the first team.

Same goes for Josef Yarney, who will replace Mbemba.

Amazing that we have become even cheaper, flicking squad players and replacing them with kids who may or may not be good enough...
At least if they do well we can sell them at a huge profit which we're bound to benefit from  O0

It would be Ashley's wet dream if we had a model like Southampton.

Maybe someone should tell him that if we improve the facilities there is more likelihood of this happening?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ads on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 09:35:57 am
If Hayden leaves then this lad has to be part of the squad. He’s more than ready to cover for Diame.

:lol: :lol: "more than ready..."

Played a decent game in a friendly against St. Pats and now he's Diame's understudy. Love this place.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cookie1892 on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:15:04 am
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?

fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad

think he may have captained their under 23's as well
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:18:45 am
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?

fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad

think he may have captained their under 23's as well

Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: wormy on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:51:56 am
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?

fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad

think he may have captained their under 23's as well

Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.

Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 11:45:26 am
What ever happened to Lewis Gibson, how has he been doing at Everton?

fantastically by all accounts, in their under 23's and in the england squad

think he may have captained their under 23's as well

Which is a good job, given that the majority of his fee was based on his progress. We might actually end up making close to £7m on him.

Can't wait for the window that it bolsters the ol' warchest.

It's dribbling in, 100k at a time. Paying for PR.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:09:44 pm
Did well again tonight..
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 24 July 2018, 10:21:42 pm
Aye, looked comfortable in both roles (advanced in the first half before dropping deeper into midfield in the second). Nicked the ball well high up the pitch a few times, and his height means he can get into physical duels too. Promising signs.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:28:09 pm
Fair play today, held his own against much better opposition. Played the ball around nicely at times.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:28:55 pm
Did well. Disciplined and some nice passes.

Will be playing in League 1 though cos Neesy said so.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:30:04 pm
Had a 30-second spell where he looked decent, other than that it was a performance Jack Colback would have been proud of.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:05 pm
Had a 30-second spell where he looked decent, other than that it was a performance Jack Colback would have been proud of.

Nah
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:24 pm
Did well. Showed his passing range near the end, wish he tried to get on it a bit more though given how tidy he is. Promising
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:31:39 pm
Played some really good football today. Did excellent to win that corner right at the end which we took full advantage of...........
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:32:04 pm
He should be buzzing tonight.

Still, a career of Championship football awaits.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:33:05 pm
He should be buzzing tonight.

Still, a career of Championship football awaits.

We'll be a match made in heaven so
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:33:44 pm
Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:34:18 pm
He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:35:06 pm
Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.

Aye he played well but he definitely lacks athleticism
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: summerof69 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:36:19 pm
Covered more distance on the pitch today too
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 12 January 2019, 07:36:23 pm
Good looking prospect.

Picks good options and moves the ball in a timely fashion. Very very good traits.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:41:43 pm
Should keep his place ahead of Hayden if Diame's back next week.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:48:56 pm
I thought he was plenty athletic, just the fact he ran a kilometre more than anyone else took its toll towards the end.

Biggest compliment you can pay him is that he took Diame's place and I didn't really notice Diame not being there off the ball. Any hairy moments seemed to come through Hayden.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: SteV on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:56:43 pm
Decent on the ball. Not much of an athlete.

Agree in terms of his athletic dynamism, but he’s obviously got a seriously good engine, and can provide very good ‘legs’. Clearly you need plenty more than that at PL level, but he had at least showed a decent range of passing in the second half, and looking at his goals on loan to Blackpool, he has a canny dig on him too. Early days, but certainly a bit of promise.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 12 January 2019, 08:59:45 pm
Distance covered is a poor indicator tbh.  Number and intensity of sprints is far more important.  You want players who can do s*** loads of sprints at a high intensity across the 90 minutes and not just someone who can run at 3/4 pace across the 90.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:17:23 pm
Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: dtd on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:24:55 pm
Going to be sold in the summer for £20 million.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:53:25 pm
We'd do well to get a million, man :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mickthemagpie on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:55:26 pm
The kid was as good as anybody else on our team. He should keep his place.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:55:59 pm
He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.

Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 12 January 2019, 09:56:44 pm
Anyway, in keeping with this thread, he was f***ing worse than garbage bewwwww
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:28:23 pm
He did well today considering the s*** he had around him.
North Shields lad so not unexpected.

Aye cos North Shields produces pure loads of mint players :lol:

Class driving instructors too.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:36:12 pm
He was ok, let's not get carried away and build him up too much.

It's one game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Menace on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:38:25 pm
I understand Crumpy is a gunt, but there's no need to get personal is there
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:41:37 pm
I understand Crumpy is a gunt, but there's no need to get personal is there

You're right, uncalled for input from me. I take it back - I'm sure he doesn't care anyway, I'm just an anonymous guy on a forum, not only that but I'm from South Shields. Practically a mackem.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:50:08 pm
Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.

Pretty sure Diame was always athletic as he is now. :lol:

Longstaff is a tidy player with decent awareness, but I agree that he doesn't maybe have quite enough athleticism for the top level. I remember when Steve Watson made his debut (at 16 I think) his pace and athleticism stood out even at that age. Maybe Longstaff will develop it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:51:24 pm
He wasn’t though, he was lumbering and not sharp.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 10:53:36 pm
He wasn’t though, he was lumbering and not sharp.

probably lack of match fitness at this level or needing to adapt to the pace of the game here.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Toon on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:02:28 pm
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:05:02 pm
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:22:49 pm
Should be proud of himself tonight. Very impressive first 90 in the PL.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:49:27 pm
Impressive debut indeed!👍
Didn't put a foot wrong. Tired a bit at the end but by far our best player today.
Did more than enough to keep his place in the starting eleven for the Cardiff game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nufc4eva on Saturday 12 January 2019, 11:57:34 pm
He must have been nervous as f*** and played pretty well for first real game
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Keggy_Keagal on Sunday 13 January 2019, 12:04:12 am
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:18:59 am
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante

Yep that says it all really.

Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.

If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:24:03 am
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante

Yep that says it all really.

Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.

If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..

Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:30:49 am
Why not? We look like we’re going down regardless.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: St1pe on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:37:50 am
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nufc4eva on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:47:17 am
Looked canny in a poor side and against a midfield that contained N'golo Kante

Yep that says it all really.

Liked the look of the lad from pre season and he hasn’t disappointed since he’s gotten his first few starts. There won’t be many harder games and he can only get better with the experience.

If there’s a real threat of going down which there is, I’d prefer to see guys like this blooded as the likes of Shelvey, Diame, Hayden and Ki most likely won’t be playing for us..

Really? When all available you want Longstaff to play :lol:

We are completely f***ed, may as well give him a chance. We won't stay up anyway
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The Merse on Sunday 13 January 2019, 06:51:22 am
Got a cracking pass on him and when he got his head up in the second half he looked like he can be dangerous offensively. Actually thought the centre midfield did pretty well but the glaring weaknesses elsewhere was the diifference between a loss and a draw.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 13 January 2019, 08:50:26 am
It's always good to see one of our young ones get a chance and i thought he did well yesterday, will only get better i hope as he gets more confidence to play in this level.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:32:04 pm
Thought he did well, and would definitely like to see more of him but fully expect to never see him play any more minutes for us if Rafas handling of Murphy is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jackyboy on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:35:34 pm
looked good yesterday.  It's always easier to play with good players around you so once Mike brings in our new signings he'll look even better
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Sunday 13 January 2019, 02:57:08 pm
Hopefully another start for him on Tuesday against weaker opponents.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 13 January 2019, 03:05:33 pm
Athleticism can easily be trained though, look at Diame.

Stamina arguably, not speed across the ground. I'm not criticizing him like just an observation. He played really well
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Sunday 13 January 2019, 03:07:37 pm
Anybody criticising a young local player who has made an excellent debut and who showed that he has most if not all the attributes to be a success at this level needs to go and f*** off and support a different team.

Lol calm down. Literally all was said is he isn't particularly athletic. Everyone has rightly said he had a good game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cookie1892 on Monday 14 January 2019, 08:50:44 am
have we sold him yet?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:20:06 pm
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:20:41 pm
I really like this boy :love:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:25 pm
motm for me like
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:34 pm
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:21:53 pm
He's fantastic. Michael Carrick like midfielder. An exciting find in these rotten times.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:14 pm
Looks a decent prospect. Would start him ahead of Hayden.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:21 pm
Immense. Will be important in the championship.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:22:48 pm
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:


triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:23:41 pm
had a pretty good start, early days yet but I like the look of him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:23:55 pm
Most of what he did tonight was good, and made very few mistakes in a team that seems to make mistakes during literally every phase of play throughout the game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:24:13 pm
Looks a decent prospect. Would start him ahead of Hayden.

I think Rafa had Hayden starting Saturday against Cardiff as he was on the bench, I'm the same as you i think he should start ahead of Hayden, don't think he will now he's done 120 minutes.

Just in two or so games he's looked far better than Hayden.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:24:22 pm
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:


triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating Matic
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:26:38 pm
Looks like he's going to be a player this one. Like a more skilful version of Matic.
He's been good but come on ffs :lol:


triggs the closet mackem. :lol:
Nah, I've really liked Longstaff from the first time I saw him, you are just massively underrating Matic

It was slightly tongue in cheek like. Obviously Matic is nowhere near as good.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:26:45 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:27:26 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.

Be a shame for him to get deported.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:28:53 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
Title: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Rich on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:29:49 pm
Reckon he’s got a future here, then?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:31:56 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
christ are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for us
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:32:30 pm
:lol:

What a win does, eh. Imagine if we were good.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:14 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.

Be a shame for him to get deported.

Brexit means Brexit, no U-turns allowed.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:30 pm
Like the cut of his jib although I didn’t think he was overly great v Chelsea. Calm on the ball if nowt else.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:33:55 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:

I'm not worried, in a couple of months he will be desperate for a brown passport.
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:35:53 pm
Dave is spinning in his tomb
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Rich on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:37:04 pm
I’m hoping the madness might bring him back. You can only fight OCD for so long.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:40:40 pm
Reminds me of a young Andy Cole.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:46:05 pm
I hope he has an Irish granny.
Googled it. Can't play for us but we had already enquired :lol:
christ are things so desperate for us we're asking kids in the Newcastle Academy if they can play for us
Well it would’ve been for our underage teams like
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:46:36 pm
Could be the next Danny Guthrie. ;)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Robster on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:56:22 pm
His development will come to a grinding halt the moment Rafa leaves, sadly.
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 10:56:53 pm
f***s gan on
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Mattoon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:02:01 pm
Schlong Pornstash
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:03:43 pm
Hearing rumours Semtex has ordered a Seanstaff shirt to go with Shearea
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:10:14 pm
Seriously, I do like how he receives the ball and always manages to keep it under control and find a team mate. Seems to have time on the ball even in a crowded area which is rare for one of our players.
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:15:59 pm
Longstiff shirley
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:17:06 pm
Was so aroused when he scored.
Title: Re: Long Seanstaff
Post by: Nobody on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:18:23 pm
So, he's been decent then?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Billy Pilgrim on Tuesday 15 January 2019, 11:55:56 pm
He's doing some basic midfield stuff moderately well. Good to see him get a goal. I really wouldn't mind a Dummet quality CM from the academy, we're thin as f*** as it is.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 01:19:58 am
Played well.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 06:05:59 am
Will make Mike some more money one day  O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 06:47:30 am
Looks like a very good all-rounder. I wouldn't talk of potential, I think he's arrived.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 09:51:21 am
Dave is spinning in his tomb

Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then   :razz:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 11:28:03 am
Dave is spinning in his tomb

Looks like it falls to me to be a jobsworth spoilsport and merge them then   :razz:

(https://i.imgur.com/V7WtFPj.gif)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 03:40:10 pm
Can we not just promote him up the striker pecking order above Joselu at least and start getting him some premier league minutes?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 04:20:42 pm
Can we not just promote him up the striker pecking order above Joselu at least and start getting him some premier league minutes?
He’s a centre mid and started our last league game :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 05:30:42 pm
Ah yes.  Shows how much attention I've been paying
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 06:20:33 pm
For me, no introduction of a young CM is complete without the rite of passage of John Carver throwing him to the dogs in post-match conferences. Abeid is still shook.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Wednesday 16 January 2019, 07:15:05 pm
For me, no introduction of a young CM is complete without the rite of passage of John Carver throwing him to the dogs in post-match conferences. Abeid is still shook.

But if we had 11 Jack Colbacks out there we'd be in a much better place.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Friday 18 January 2019, 02:24:04 pm
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Friday 18 January 2019, 02:51:46 pm
his dad's david longstaff isnt he - the one that played for the steelers?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: brownie21390 on Friday 18 January 2019, 03:16:31 pm
his dad's david longstaff isnt he - the one that played for the steelers?

Yes he is
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Friday 18 January 2019, 05:08:25 pm
Not seen much of him, but he has a similar style to an early Henderson. I’d take that!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Friday 18 January 2019, 06:41:39 pm
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:26:56 am
Leave him in, he's done just fine and will have a dip at some point, but currently needs to play to build up confidence too.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:47:41 am
Future captain.

If we have a future
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:01:53 am
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.

Good shout.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:04:06 am
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.

Good shout.

Nah, don’t see that at all.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crayola Kid on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:03:22 pm
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.

Good shout.

Nah, don’t see that at all.

Bracewell maybe, then?  Before injuries cost him much of his game that is. Good control, hard to push off the ball, uses it well under pressure.
Very early days of course. Hope to see plenty more of him, anyway
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:11:28 pm
Too early for me to make any worthwhile comparisons but it's nice to see someone looking like he has some potential. Hope he starts again today alongside Diame.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:13:49 pm
If there's any two of Diame, Shelvey, Hayden fit for today, this lad will be on the bench so fast his head will spin, Rafa has pretty much shown so far he only uses youth if he absolutely has to.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 19 January 2019, 12:18:14 pm
If there's any two of Diame, Shelvey, Hayden fit for today, this lad will be on the bench so fast his head will spin, Rafa has pretty much shown so far he only uses youth if he absolutely has to.

Not really fair - which of our young players are demanding selection and not getting it?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 01:54:18 pm
I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.

He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Greg on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:12:31 pm
I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.

He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.

We don't have any other central midfielders.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:14:28 pm
Much prefer him to Hayden. Might do alright with Ki.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 02:14:56 pm
I think benching him today might be an idea as he played 120 mins and you don't want to burn out a young player.

He should absolutely be in the 18 for the rest of the season though.

We don't have any other central midfielders.

This was on the assumption Diame was back today like.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:00:49 pm
Great first half. Keep it up lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:26:24 pm
This lad looks the real deal like, very good at keeping possession.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:56:56 pm
Well done lad. Stepped up when needed and showed some balls.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:58:38 pm
Already got a poster of him in the living room  O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 19 January 2019, 04:59:39 pm
He has earned his place at the side and shouldn't be replaced by anyone at the moment, really happy for him, one of the few good stories of the season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:01:57 pm
Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:09:06 pm
Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.

Also dont begrudge him when he was fouled not fully playing to the whistle. One of many w*** decisions by the ref. Clear as day that one.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:09:56 pm
Chuffed it's going so well for him. :thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:11:36 pm
Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.

Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:12:17 pm
Amazing composure. Knows when to take a touch and when to play it first time and rarely loses the ball.

Chuffed to see him take advantage of his run in the team and justifying the longer contract with some early promise. :thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:13:20 pm
Love seeing a young guy come through and deliver. This guy is a cool customer.

Such a nice story. The thought of Diame or Shelvey coming back in is actually a bit of a downer.

Hope he keeps his place unless he struggles a bit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ElDiablo on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:13:37 pm
Seamless step up in difficult circumstances. Can't overstate how well he's done. Played a lot of football recently too which probably explains him fading late on.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:14:56 pm
Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.

Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:18:11 pm
If we're signing nobody then he's worthy of a starting place imo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 19 January 2019, 05:42:30 pm
Already got a poster of him in the living room  O0

 :serious:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 19 January 2019, 06:58:03 pm
Another solid performance. Hopefully learns from the mistakes. His reaction time and awareness is sometimes a bit slow but a big bonus and promising promotion.

Good to hear. Reaction time and awareness is (fingers crossed) most likely something he can improve on as he gets more experience with the tempo in this league compared to what he's used to.
Yep. In both cases he will adjust and learn with more experience. Definitely encouraging.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Benwell Lad on Saturday 19 January 2019, 10:46:43 pm
Well played young fella. Stepped up when needed and shown great maturity for one so young.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 19 January 2019, 11:36:40 pm
Calm on the ball and plays it simple all the time. Hope he will keep his place in the team as he has earned it. Him and Ki could do well together. Don't miss Shelvey a bit at the moment.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 20 January 2019, 03:11:32 am
Him and Ki in midfield for me when everyone's fit I think. Diame might run a bit more than Longstaff but Longstaff doesn't give it away as much so doesn't need to run as much.

Can't see Rafa going without a midfield enforcer, Hayden or Diame are always going to be in there. Longstaff will be competing with Shelvey and Ki for the shirt IMO.

Yep spot on.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Sunday 20 January 2019, 05:37:03 am
Like a new signing
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The Little Waster on Sunday 20 January 2019, 11:16:13 pm
When is Mike selling him ?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Parkerz on Sunday 20 January 2019, 11:46:37 pm
Really great talent :love: :love:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 26 January 2019, 01:34:08 am
Nah, I see Michael Carrick. More calm and cerebral than Hendo.

Good shout.

Nah, don’t see that at all.

Unlucky pal! Rafa knows what I'm saying!

Quote
And, of the 21-year-old, Benitez said: 'I've heard the Michael Carrick comparison and I can see that.

'Carrick, later on, became a holding-midfielder, but at this stage Sean has more mobility and plenty of stamina, he can cover a lot of ground.

'But certainly (like Carrick) he has the technique and can use both feet well. He is also a quiet type and is not someone who loses his head.'
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: thomas on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 09:54:51 pm
In the right spot at the right time to win the pen, was champion throughout the night everywhere.

He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 09:57:11 pm
Cannot drop him man. I love this kid. Such a cool head.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:05:32 pm
In the right spot at the right time to win the pen, was champion throughout the night everywhere.

He must be over the moon. Must be an amazing feeling for a local lad and happy for him.

Was very impressed with him tonight. Perhaps he’s invisible, and that’s why he got clobbered for the pen :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:06:25 pm
He's been my favorite thing about this season, he worked really hard and really deserves everything that he's got, today once again he proved that he cannot be dropped no matter who returns.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:08:07 pm
Think I heard a "one of our own" chants tonight.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:10:58 pm
I'm so happy for this lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Chicane on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:11:48 pm
Want his long staff inside me.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:12:44 pm
Sean Longstaff FC
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:14:17 pm
Think I heard a "one of our own" chants tonight.

There was indeed. :thup:

Think we have found a player here, fellas. The young'un must be buzzing tonight :)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:17:04 pm
Want his long staff inside me.

:spit:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:18:52 pm
Only played Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and the pressure game that was Cardiff since he came into the side. :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:21:26 pm
He was good again and of course won the pen. He's not had a bad game yet, deserves his place in the team. Well done to him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:21:50 pm
What a moment for him. He must be absolutely buzzing.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:22:44 pm
Always seeking to get involved, takes responsibility, can pass as well as put his foot in. His emergence is a real bonus.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:23:29 pm
Want his long staff inside me.

:spit:

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:23:43 pm
Mugged off Fernandinho. Build statue now.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:24:21 pm
Absolutely superb again, the real deal this lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:24:21 pm
Will be an honour to see him play for Frank Lampard’s Derby.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:25:03 pm
Love the progress he looks to be making already. Dovetails nicely with Hayden who has been equally as impressive. Both of them had a hand in our goals tonight. Fantastic stuff!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:26:30 pm
Absolutely superb again, the real deal this lad.

He really is. As far as academy products go he'll be a bigger player than Carroll IMO.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:32:16 pm
He's been such a positive in these dark times, so I hope he continues to play a big part for the rest of the season. A PL goal for him would be immense.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:34:05 pm
Haven't really seen him since I haven't been following this season due to major apathy. Is he the new Gerrard yet?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:35:11 pm
Who’d we say would be the best partner for him moving forward? He’s definitely worthy of it being Longstaff plus one when they’re all fit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:36:10 pm
Who’d we say would be the best partner for him moving forward? He’s definitely worthy of it being Longstaff plus one when they’re all fit.

Diame and let's see what he can do with a bit more forward licence. I reckon we haven't seen his forte yet which is in the attacking third.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:36:11 pm
Has to be Diame sadly, or ideally a new defensive midfielder.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:37:43 pm
I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:38:11 pm
Is Shelvey completely knackered, like?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:38:12 pm
taken his chance and ran with it, hell of a start and really didn't look out of place against some of the best midfielders in the league
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:43:09 pm
I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.

I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:44:09 pm
?s=20

Take that in son.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:47:24 pm
I think he takes Shelvey's place, then it's a ball winner/worker next to him.

I feel like it’s pretty Damn obvious yet people still keep asking

This forum would be pretty light if people didn't repeat the same arguments man, it's essential.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:49:13 pm
?s=20

Take that in son.

Longstaff sold to City for £3m
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 10:58:04 pm
Very mature performance on and off the ball, did the basics well and got involved higher up the pitch which won us the penalty, economical on the ball and very calm and assured. Could be a decent player, no outstanding attributes, but I’m liking what I see.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:06:41 pm
League 2 level IMO
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: St1pe on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:17:26 pm
Thought he was incredible tonight. He could have easily hid in the last 5 minutes due to his inexperience but he seemed to take it upon himself to see the win out. Great to hear the “one of our own” song being belted out for him from the corner.

On form I’d start him even if everyone was fit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:19:06 pm
League 2 level IMO

:lol::lol: one of my favourite recent comments on here.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:24:16 pm
Against the grain like but it's him with Ki in my mind.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:25:50 pm
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:27:24 pm
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?

Samaris started for Benfica tonight, I don't think he's coming.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:27:55 pm
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?

Possibly. I just don't see Longstaff as needing a pure destroyer alongside him. He's not like Ki or Shelvey in the way that he does get stuck in
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:28:28 pm
Love him.

Stepped up when it matters, and showed great composure.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:31:26 pm
Samaris & Longstaff maybe?

Sounds like a firm of solicitors.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:32:36 pm
I will vouch for him and Ki
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:37:03 pm
He's done well against a big side. He can be the next Kevin Mbabu.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tiresias on Tuesday 29 January 2019, 11:59:38 pm
Remember when Abeid beasted man city and immediately got exiled
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: tinoasprilla on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:15:48 am
Longstaff and shelvey for me
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gorilla on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:22:29 am
Remember when Abeid beasted man city and immediately got exiled
You have to love pards. Many a career ruined.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:24:35 am
This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordiedean on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:37:14 am
This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.

Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:44:13 am
This leaves Jonjo in a bit of jam given both Ki and Diame playing better than him this season not to mention the emergence of this kid.

Should f*** the baldy waste of space off given any bidders

Can't see that happening, if we get samaris in it may allow Hayden to be loaned out though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:48:28 am
Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:50:35 am
Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes

Agree. Would personally love to see how Longstaff kicks on. He's got the tools to be a f***ing great player.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:52:45 am
Would f*** Shelvey off asap personally. Absolutely pathetic off the ball, and its not enough that he can ping occasional passes

If this Almiron lad is good enough we might not need Shelvey's passing ability anyway. Would much prefer those opportunities go to someone well rounded  and to be frank i even prefer Ki to Shelvey. :lol:

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 01:53:48 am
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Carlito on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:16:48 am
Longstaff has been a breath of fresh air so far. Puts himself about nicely. Hopefully Rafa keeps him around (if Rafa stays).
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontenacity on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:21:33 am
Would be nice to be able to praise one of our players without shitting on another. Shelvey is one of our highest quality players ffs
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 04:27:29 am
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.

:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:24:58 am
Matters not when Tielemans walks through the door Thursday.

I mean obviously he walks through the door then out the other one when he realises he is completely in the wrong f***ing club. My bad.

Longstaff is a huge bonus for us, with Ki and Shelvey hopefully fit within the next couple of weeks, Diame back to speed and hopefully Samaris for Hayden things definitely look better. Hopefully Sangare gets the chance to train more often with the first team too, potential there and with a few bairns tbf.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: chopey on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:41:47 am
I wonder if the emergence of Longstaff will convince Ashley to spend a few quid on the acade....eerrrhhhh, I know I know.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 06:54:43 am
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.

:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.

don't think anyone means sell him now do they?  i'd look to move him in the summer if we decide to operate like a proper club for a change

Ki, Diame, Longstaff, New competing for the 2 spots under Rafa would work for me with maybe another option as backup to that
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 07:03:35 am
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.

:lol: :thup: Hows about we keep a good player, and also bring another in, instead of replacing, just a thought like.

Is Shelvey the type of player who is happy to be a squad player? I don't think so, he's been a bit lackadaisical in the few outings he's had as sub. It will be interesting to see if he gets his place back when he's fit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 07:04:29 am
If we were to get someone of Tielemans profile I’d happily see him leave.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mozy on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 10:15:52 am
Shelvey's an attacking sub only, not the man to bring on to protect a result as he's unfortunately proved time and time again.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:28:42 pm
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.

Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: thenige on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:37:12 pm
Longstaff and Ki for me on form this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 12:48:07 pm
Advocating making the p*ss poor squad weaker for no reason, aye class.

Who said they were avocating doing it today? just meant long term is all.

MD and Kanji did right above your response to them. FWIW I'd also advocate doing it in the summer... if we were a properly run club.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 01:13:56 pm
:thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:26:18 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:33:37 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LFEE on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:42:18 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh

Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:43:08 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh

He's our most important midfielder tbf.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:44:13 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh

He's our most important midfielder tbf.

I just think he's been a bit s*** this season. His closing down/tackling is fantastic but whenever he has the ball we know we're about to lose it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:44:23 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh

Why? He’s been our most consistent midfield since West Ham away two Christmas’s ago.

Agree. I prefer Diame to Hayden tbh, closes down the opposition a bit better and just generally shows for the ball more.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:46:12 pm
he's done well but i still think the Ki/Diame midfield is our best option when everybody is fit.

I'm dreading seeing Diame back in tbh

He's our most important midfielder tbf.
:thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 02:48:56 pm
Christ, this is like the opposite of Diame's own thread :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: St1pe on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:24:42 pm
Seeing him at the match last night he's much better than I was expecting. He's a lot more mobile and athletic and he seems to cover a lot of ground quickly. He also could have easily hidden in those last 10 minutes given his inexperience but he seem to take it upon himself to make sure we saw that win out. Hopefully if he keeps developing and starts working a few more forward passes we could be looking at a decent player.

On form it'd be hard to argue someone should be starting over him even if everyone was fit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 30 January 2019, 03:44:39 pm
Pep didn't really say anything about him, did he? Seen the headlines but seriously can't see Longstaff's name mentioned, just Pep talking about our "holding midfielders" being a problem in a passage.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 31 January 2019, 03:08:41 am
This lad has took his opportunity brilliantly, fair play.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Zero on Thursday 31 January 2019, 06:27:58 am
Pep didn't really say anything about him, did he? Seen the headlines but seriously can't see Longstaff's name mentioned, just Pep talking about our "holding midfielders" being a problem in a passage.

Longstaff is one of our “holding midfielders” right?

And it’s from Pep, one of the best “holding midfielders” in his era and the founder of Busquets. I would take his comments very high in this aspect
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Thursday 31 January 2019, 06:46:40 am
I don't think Pep was thinking "relative to how Busquets plays" when he made that comment.  Rafa set up our pivot to perfection, so both players shone.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:31:29 am
Rafa makes players better/look better.

Sean Longstaff should thank his lucky stars that he has Rafas tutelage at such a young age.

There's a few of our players who would be absolute dog s*** under worse managers.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: James on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:49:17 am
After showing promise in preseason you can be sure that he’s spent six months of first team training being primed by Rafa in his team to know exactly what they want from him and what he should be doing in different situations.

He’s clearly been listening as it shows from the consistency in his early performances and the faith Rafa has shown in him.

Colback for example was the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 31 January 2019, 07:52:50 am
Colback was just a poor footballer though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Zero on Thursday 31 January 2019, 10:12:43 am
I don't think Pep was thinking "relative to how Busquets plays" when he made that comment.  Rafa set up our pivot to perfection, so both players shone.

Nah I just mean in terms of rating an holding midfielder Pep should be one of the best in the world.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 10:21:00 am
Interview with him on Sky Sports. Seems like a really nice lad
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 10:36:00 am
Gan on Longshaft! New favourite player.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 2 February 2019, 12:54:25 pm
My mate was his teacher and school football coach at John Spence. Taught him everything he knows.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:30:56 pm
Played really well, again.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:32:08 pm
Like this lad, really want him to do well.

Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:52:38 pm
Didn't look out of place again today. I think Shelvey and/or Diame will have bother getting back in the side (as they should!)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:54:23 pm
Like this lad, really want him to do well.

Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.

I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:55:27 pm
Like this lad, really want him to do well.

Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.

I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?


I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:58:39 pm
Like this lad, really want him to do well.

Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.

I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?


I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.

I think the Ardiles Thompson played for Bolton as well, could be the same one?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:59:00 pm
Definitely started here though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 2 February 2019, 02:59:23 pm
He’s going to be a good player
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:12:48 pm
It's a shame he is likely to get lost in the shuffle over the next couple of weeks. He deserves to keep his place tbh. Going back to a squad role now is going to suck for his development.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:24:58 pm
It's a shame he is likely to get lost in the shuffle over the next couple of weeks. He deserves to keep his place tbh. Going back to a squad role now is going to suck for his development.


Rafa will keep working with him. I think he will get the wolves game too tbf.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:38:45 pm
4 year contract before christmas is a good sign too.
 
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 2 February 2019, 03:59:17 pm
Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 04:21:38 pm
Absolutely love him. Long may he continue in the side.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 2 February 2019, 05:08:22 pm
I'd not drop him for Shelvey, Diame or Ki at the moment tbh.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 2 February 2019, 05:42:30 pm
Would be interesting if we were brave enough to partner him with Ki, otherwise it’s going to be a tricky selection. Ki might be out a while anyway, so I think he’s safe for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Andy on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:02:50 pm
Getting better with each match and is definitely a Premier League midfielder from what I've seen of him so far. Seems to have a decent engine and is very tidy in possession, while also having the ability to turn the play faster than Diame and Ki generally do. Has to retain his place in the team even when the others are fit, for me.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:29:41 pm
Been really impressed with him so far, he has a great deal of composure for someone so young.

Needs to work on his shooting though :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: OCK on Saturday 2 February 2019, 08:30:20 pm
Still waiting to see his trademark high wave coerver coaching special techniques.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 2 February 2019, 09:20:36 pm
think Ki has to play when fully fit and then its a question of who else in a 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Astroblack on Sunday 3 February 2019, 08:34:47 pm
What I like about him is that he actually finds himself in the opposition box from time to time.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Sunday 3 February 2019, 08:42:17 pm
He’ll still be eligible for the U21s won’t he?  Surely he deserves a call up.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ujpest doza on Monday 4 February 2019, 11:43:10 am
Like this lad, really want him to do well.

Didn’t realise Alan Thompson was his uncle, either.

I heard that, so is it the same Alan Thompson who used to play for us in Ardiles' team of teenagers back in the old second division?


I think it’s the one who used to play for Bolton and was a coach here once too. Could be wrong.
That's the same one. Broke his neck in a car crash while a youth team player for us.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 4 February 2019, 12:55:59 pm
Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.

Was really impressed by his ability to do this.  Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Monday 4 February 2019, 01:54:46 pm
Longstaff had some lovely moments today in which he'd turn under pressure into space, retain ball and distribute it out wide or forward. Really pleasing to see versus a swarming press.

Was really impressed by his ability to do this.  Always seemed to be able to create a bit of space for himself.
I think Longstaff and Ki together would have a calming effect on the team as both seems to create the space for themself instead of just hoof it up the pitch and hope for the best.
Exited to get to see them play together.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Monday 4 February 2019, 01:59:06 pm
I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Monday 4 February 2019, 02:55:30 pm
Longstaff and Ki are both not very great tacklers, IMO. We need a proper holding midfielder next to a more creative one with our current crop. Ki and Longstaff are competing for the same shirt. They probably only play together if we are down and chasing a game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 05:46:37 pm
Diame needs to be in the team.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 4 February 2019, 06:12:58 pm
The obsession with having a "tackler" harms you if that tackler ends up being completely useless on the ball though. Not sure I've got much faith in Hayden or Diame to not be.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:49:15 pm
Diame needs to be in the team.

Aye, someone else’s.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:52:06 pm
Diame needs to be in the team.

Aye, someone else’s.

Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Monday 4 February 2019, 09:55:25 pm
Diame needs to be in the team.

Aye, someone else’s.

Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.

Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.

I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 4 February 2019, 10:03:15 pm
I agree we need to upgrade on him next season, but hopeless come on.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Monday 4 February 2019, 10:30:00 pm
Diame needs to be in the team.

Aye, someone else’s.

Been one of our best players since promotion and still criminally underrated by some fans.

Apart from the last 4-5 months of last season (which he was incredible) he’s been f***ing hopeless.

I doubt he’ll be playing for us next season, unless we go down.
Agreed
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 09:02:47 am
Akinator couldn't get him right when I tried yesterday. :(
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 10:16:27 am
I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Tuesday 5 February 2019, 11:14:14 am
I’m not sure we’ll ever see them together, Rafa has always preferred at least one DM in the past.
Bring David Batty back from retirement then!!!😉
Best DM ever imo.

He was immense 👍
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:48:15 pm
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:49:31 pm
f***ing hell man, we could do without losing a Midfielder to suicide.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Saturday 9 February 2019, 05:55:23 pm
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:09:20 pm
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.
Did you tell him how much you hate Rafa but refuse to say who you think should replace him?
I didn't think that discussing the managers inane tactics was an apt subject. But, I'll remember for next time.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:12:34 pm
Does he still live at the coast Crumpy? I think he was in school there?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:40:56 pm
Does he still live at the coast Crumpy? I think he was in school there?
As far as I know he's from down that way. Good to see him oblige the kids with photos etc. He was at Benfield v Shields with his fatha and brother.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Saturday 9 February 2019, 06:46:17 pm
Comes across really well, nice to have a, potentially, local hero.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Saturday 9 February 2019, 09:20:14 pm
Just had bit craic with him earlier. Thanked him for becoming a beacon of light in amongst the darkest of drudgery.

Funny that, my mate who volunteers taking calls for the Samaritans swears he’s just had Longstaff on the phone. Said he sounded down as f***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: astraguy on Saturday 9 February 2019, 09:24:43 pm
Handed in a transfer request
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Sunday 10 February 2019, 08:44:08 am
Handed in a transfer request
Who?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Sunday 10 February 2019, 08:45:50 am
:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Hhtoon on Sunday 10 February 2019, 09:27:19 am
Handed in a transfer request
Who?

Crumpy. Wants to join a club with a proper manager. Though he doesn't know who that might be.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: La Parka on Monday 11 February 2019, 09:49:42 pm
What a guy.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 11 February 2019, 09:55:53 pm
Man of the match by a country mile.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:02:22 pm
So composed
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:09:37 pm
he's brilliant
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:17:32 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

super scout strikes again
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:17:55 pm
Shocking performance. ;)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:18:38 pm
in reality we need to be finding the perfect partner for him in CM to bring out the best of him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:19:06 pm
Hope with diame back he can play bigger part going forward as looks composed as f*** and seems aware of players around him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jonny1403 on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:21:45 pm
Can't be dropped playing as he is at the moment. Looking forward to seeing Diame or Ki alongside him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:21:54 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

super scout strikes again

ahahaha
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:23:09 pm


some boy, some adam's apple
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:24:09 pm
Congrats for another great performance all across the park.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:25:26 pm
He was outstanding tonight. Seemed to misplace a pass every time the commentators mentioned that fact though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:30:07 pm
Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.

Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Decky on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:31:02 pm
What a gem he is. Evidence that the academy is worth investing in.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:31:49 pm
Utterly brilliant, what an absolute player we have.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:32:13 pm
Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.

Will score a screamer before the season is out if he keeps playing.

Every goal he scored for Blackpool seemed to be a belter
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:45:54 pm
Special mention ......the kid was class   O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:50:14 pm
He was excellent tonight; one of the CM spots is his for as long as he wants it/as long as we don't spend proper money.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:51:26 pm
Shelvey will struggle to make the match day squad with Longstaff's form.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:54:22 pm
Isn't a stupid c*** ala Shelvey. Seems calm as f***, not constantly giving away needless fouls.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 1892er on Monday 11 February 2019, 10:54:41 pm
Tidy passer, moves the ball quickly, never stops running and puts a tackle in. Fantastic so far. He's not only competing with the opposition but he's standing out in games. Definitely a one to watch for the future.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:00:20 pm
Very impressive today playing a little deeper and doing an excellent job. It made me think that he has the skills set to pair up with any of our midfield options - which is great news, because he should surely be the first CM picked.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:02:12 pm
He really does remind me of carrick
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kid Icarus on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:13:17 pm
Really impressed with this lad like. I tend not to get carried away with local talent coming through, purely because I worry about the standard of coaching they're being given, but there don't seem to be any worries with this lad so far. Very calm, neat and tidy, seems intelligent with it, a good engine, and a good attitude. Obvious comparison, but I actually do see shades of Carrick in some of his play.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:13:59 pm
He really does remind me of carrick

Deffo did tonight.

We've got a player here.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:17:02 pm
Clear MoM tonight. He’s growing in confidence game by game. Lad is a player. :-)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: FustinoSolano on Monday 11 February 2019, 11:18:30 pm
Delighted Rafa has kept faith with this lad, gets better with every passing game. Plays with an assured composure well beyond his years and makes it all look easy. His best game yet tonight and can count himself extremely unlucky not to be going home with three points.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sugoinufc on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:18:02 am
 :smitten:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:27:43 am
Him and Diame next game?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:37:22 am
Revelation this lad

The way he breaks up play is brilliant, especially for a lad his age. Well deserved Motm tonight.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:40:24 am
Him and Diame next game?

Nah. Was only 10 minutes but I felt we worse without Hayden when Diame came on.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:57:38 am
Will play for England within 2 years.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 07:56:07 am
Impressive game, has earned his starting place.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tyne81 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 09:27:09 am
Will play for England within 2 years.

He will, looks made for international football to a tee. Just hope when we inevitably cash in on him he doesn't hop into the Man City/Chelsea reject bin.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 09:31:42 am
Needs to work on making himself available from the back 3 when they’re under a press but near flawless otherwise.


I noticed that too. Wasn't sure if it was his positioning or if the players had just been told to concentrate on working the wings. Would be mad if that was the case though because he's one of the only players confident enough to play a decent forward pass that isn't a long ball. We need to be getting him on the ball as much as possible.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:25:20 am
Was a make or break season for him this. He's not a young talent anymore at 21. If you're not good enough at that age these days it is very unlikely that you will make it at this level at all. Glad he's taken his chance and showed that he can perform.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ujpest doza on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:27:19 am
He really does remind me of carrick
Reminds me more of Matic
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:31:44 am
The midfielders he's had to face the last 6 weeks or so too and hasn't looked out of place:

Kante, Jorginho, Neves, Moutinho, Fernandinho, De bruyne, Silva etc
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:39:51 am
It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:24:39 am
It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.

Aye, if a player gets to 21 without ever being anywhere near the first team you start to suspect the coaching staff just know they won't cut it.

If we don't see a player lighting up before they're 18, they might as well not exist. Nice to see Longstaff bucking the trend.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:25:07 am
Again, pair him with a proper Partner of real quality and we have a partnership that can flourish.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:29:17 am
It does make you wonder why he wasn't brought through into the first team until we faced a midfield crisis. If we'd have had our central midfielders fit this season he probably wouldn't have got a look in and we'd still be wondering if he was ever going to make the step up. Given the class and experience of our manager and coaches you'd think they'd have recognised how good he is well before now.
Anyway, he's class and it's nice to see another academy player coming through and doing well, especially in such an important area of the pitch.



I'm more of the opinion that there are probably loads of lads in academies across the UK that don't get a look in that are more than capable of playing premiership football. It's not that UK academies are loads worse than Spanish ones, it that we never give our own a chance. We buy in players from abroad who have been given their chances in less high pressure leagues, paying the premium for not having to take a chance on them.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:32:40 am
I do get this viewpoint, but honestly the level they play at is not good. I've watched a fair bit of it, and the step up is absolutely huge. For every Longstaff, there is ten adam campbells. There is definitely talent around but it's very much limited. The culture at UK academies is not great, I spoke with a lad who played for Torino as youth player, and they all ate together, hung out together, much more inclusive environment. Take Barca for instance, the youth players are regularly around the likes of messi, and the culture is very different. I'd be inclined to say the coaching isn't the greatest either.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:38:03 am
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:41:54 am
It’s a fair point about the circumstance that led to getting his chance.

Rafa has to trust the youth setup because new players coming through can’t always be because of an injury crisis.

On the flip side, we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in.

Hayden has been a good partner for him in the middle, also did great last night too. Be harsh to drop him for Diame straight away.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:47:34 am
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.

Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men.  It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:53:59 am
It's a very interesting point that Longstaff probably would not have been given this opportunity had our "1st choice" central midfield pairing not been unavailable. I'm sure there are numerous similar situations around other clubs throughout their histories. I'm not one to get overly excited or enthused but these recent performances are not some flash in the pan but are a player who knows his position is calm and makes good choices with the ball. Watching him talking to Rafa during the match had me saying to myself we've got a player here.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 11:56:53 am
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.

Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men.  It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental

The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.

Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?

At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: khay on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:02:14 pm
He really does remind me of carrick
Reminds me more of Matic


Was thinking the same yesterday. First time I’ve had a good look of him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:02:44 pm
These players have to go on loan. Longstaff is actually the perfect example. His loan at Blackpool has been a huge factor in making him ready to play in comp football
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Wullie on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:13:29 pm
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.

Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men.  It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental

The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.

Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?

At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.

Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 12:54:53 pm
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.

It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team? 
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:00:36 pm
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.

It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team? 
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:02:54 pm
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.

It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team? 
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.

Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:08:56 pm
The problem for the Premiership is that the huge amounts of money involved in either staying up or trying to reach the Champions League mean that clubs are reluctant to risk young players. The huge amounts of money involved also make it too easy to buy ready made, experienced players from abroad.

On Longstaff, two or three times a game, the opposition will try to close him down and he just drifts past them with the ball into open space. That's quite a rare quality in a midfield anchorman - or at least an English one. Looking at who we've got, Dier looks like a defender who's a bit out of his comfort zone, and Henderson, good player that he is, doesn't have that particular ability.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:10:02 pm
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.

It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team? 
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Youth_League

See, f***ing mint idea.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:15:05 pm
It also makes you wonder why the f*** we persist with Joselu when we could be bringing another youngster through. We know Joselu won't score, won't assist, will barely contribute and will absolutely not trouble the opposition, regardless of who it is. It couldn't be a more perfect situation to bring someone through from the youth ranks. There is literally nothing to lose.

It also begs the question - what can be done to make the reserves leagues more competitive so it's less of a perceived risk to bring a reserve player into the first team? 
Some sort of U21s Champions League might be a good start - a chance to see how the reserve players fair against quality opposition. Obviously it would take some serious organising but it's be better to watch the domestic reserve football.

Because he has scored, he has contributed. I know he's a bad player, but what are the alternatives. Throw Sorensen in? He might do well but I'd be very surprised, he most likely wouldn't get a kick. He needs to go to a football league club and learn how to play in that environment.

Plenty of players have come through from reserve football straight into the premier league and succeeded. The striking position here at the moment is a very difficult one to play admittedly, but I don't see the harm in giving someone like Sorensen minutes ahead of Joselu. What's the point in having these backup players if we don't allow them the opportunity to sink or swim?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:17:47 pm
we’re not a team with the luxury of seeing how a few young ins will do when thrown in

Said every team in the PL. The only time it's suitable to throw in an unknown prospect unless there's injuries would be for a team towards the end of the season that is safe from relegation and has too big a gap between the team above and below it for it not to matter whether they win or lose.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:35:47 pm
Problem for the previous lads is they usually all get one or two cups games where 5 or 6 of them are thrown in. Should be using 1 or 2 with the senior players
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 01:47:27 pm
If he was called Longstaffio and we'd signed him on loan from Napoli last month, we'd all be desperate to sign him permanently.

He's been outstanding.

This guy would benefit hugely from another couple of years under Rafa's tutelage to fully blossom.

He'd probably be s**** under a PFM but under Rafa it's like his role has been completely drilled into him and he's sticking to it.

Love how calm on the ball he is. He nevers looks flusterered.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 02:03:07 pm
His nickname should be The Real Deal Longstaff. Because he is one.

Top banana this lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Papavasiliou on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 02:32:33 pm
I just think if you gave our players as many chances as they do in Spain, we'd be seeing a lot more English players make that step up. I'm not saying it's not a big step up, but you don't know if a player will make it if they never get that chance. You can imagine they will or won't. It's not like loads of people have been clamouring from Longstaff to be a regular starter over the last 3 years, yet here we are.

Yeah I agree we don't give them as many chances, but I don't personally think there is a production line of talent waiting below the first team at PL clubs trying to get through. The loan system is fine and should be used all the time, these players wont learn a thing playing against their own age ranges. They need to be playing comp football against pros and grown men.  It's completely ludcirous that Woodman is still here and not out on loan. Very detrimental

The problem is the levels they end up loaned to. Longstaff doing from Blackpool to keeping Man City quiet is mental.

Makes you wonder if it's worth giving more incentives to Champ clubs to start taking them. Not sure what form that would take though. Maybe a clause in the loan deal that gives them first refusal on the player if they go up? Maybe a set fee to make the deal permanent at the end of the season that reduces the more games they play?

At the moment it just doesn't seem worth it for Championship teams.

Why should Championship clubs take them when there are absolutely stacks of players in the Championship worthy of PL football that bigger clubs won't take a chance on? It's the same issue really, PL clubs prefer to shop abroad when the Championship is absolutely full of good young British players and usually the only way they ever get a go in the top flight is when their club gets promoted. The gap between the top flight and the Championship is much smaller than it was a few years ago.

The prospect of getting in on the ground floor on a young, English player with proper potential. I think most Champ teams would have snapped your hand off if you'd offered them a Ryan Sassegnon or Will Hughes type player with the option of buying them at a cut price if they do well or shipping them back if not. I think the harder sell would be convincing Prem teams to agree to part with them if they do well.

It's a daft idea though. We'll just have to make do with loaning the poor buggers to Motherwell and Carlisle and hoping they actually get on the pitch once or twice.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:19:15 pm
I said after his first start that he reminds me of Carrick - fantastic prospect!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:26:00 pm
I said after his first start that he reminds me of Carrick - fantastic prospect!

Aye, while not going overboard he has better long passes off either foot, so much potential there.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 04:30:39 pm
lot of players have talent, not everyone rises to the occasion when out there in the PL - and can do it over a run of games. He's proven it imo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:17:57 pm
His development reminds me of Kane. Nobody expected them to make it in the Premier League, but decent coaching and taking their chances because of injury or poor form from other players has meant they have taken their opportunity.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:32:16 pm
I'd hope we use this to at least have some belief in trying them more often.

I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:38:09 pm
Sad that it took an injury crisis for him to get a chance. You just don't know how someone is going to perform until you stick them in a PL game, especially not flashy, all rounder centre mids like Longstaff
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:38:11 pm
I'd hope we use this to at least have some belief in trying them more often.

I really like the look of Barlaser too from when he's played before and he looked good in the FA Cup the other week. Would like to see him get games at some point.
Hopefully see Barlaser on Sky Friday vs sunderland.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 06:45:48 pm
He'll always have a career in the adult film industry.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HawK on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 07:17:18 pm
Reluctant to get a shirt with his name on the back because of the inescapable double entendre wind ups I'd expect to receive.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:08:04 pm
Love how two footed the lad is, rare for a young player to be so comfortable with both feet has that Carrick type composure to go with it too.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:30:53 pm
He's been great like, really impressive
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 08:31:42 pm
His development reminds me of Kane. Nobody expected them to make it in the Premier League, but decent coaching and taking their chances because of injury or poor form from other players has meant they have taken their opportunity.
Kane the wrestler, aye?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:34:10 pm
Can we have this as a smug smiley?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzM97A4WkAAwKa0.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Crayola Kid on Tuesday 12 February 2019, 10:40:16 pm
Reluctant to get a shirt with his name on the back because of the inescapable double entendre wind ups I'd expect to receive.
Love how two footed the lad is, rare for a young player to be so comfortable with both feet has that Carrick type composure to go with it too.
Two foot Longstaff?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 01:12:52 am
The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.

Same with The Windasses.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:00:44 am
The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.

Same with The Windasses.

My neighbor is a Cockburn
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:06:29 am
The Millers are descended from mill workers
The Smiths are descended from foundry workers
Interesting to see where The Longstaffs of the world find their origins.

Same with The Windasses.

Wizards and Farters you’d imagine.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: St1pe on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 03:25:51 pm
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Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 03:47:54 pm
Keep expecting him to come back down to earth solely because he's an academy kid of ours, but instead he's just getting better every game. Long may it continue, among all the terrible things about our club, would at least be nice to have an academy graduate starting at CM for the next few years.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 04:08:18 pm
he's got a bit of everything in terms of his skill-set.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 04:20:42 pm
Shame Merino left. This guy and Merino would've made an interesting duo in CM in the long term.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 06:50:29 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 07:26:17 pm
Shame Merino left. This guy and Merino would've made an interesting duo in CM in the long term.

feel like they are very much similar players - but hey ho, if it could work would be awesome.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Wednesday 13 February 2019, 07:36:21 pm
He'll never be PL standard like. Should make a decent Football League career out of himself though.

I love reopening threads on Page one where people have been overly negative for no reason :lol:

Complete opposite of Jacob Murphy thread.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 15 February 2019, 02:38:29 pm
Few articles coming out saying that Longstaff is more of a holding defensive midfielder, which I guess I never really noticed - citing his ability to read play, cover a ton of ground, break up attacks, and quickly move the ball forward short and far as his main strengths. So if that's the case, could you pair him with a more offensive CM then? a Ki or Shelvey? Or is Longstaff really more like them and he needs a destroyer next to him?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 15 February 2019, 02:41:32 pm
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:09:34 pm
I wonder if he’s been told to focus on the defensive side in preparation for the return of Ki or Shelvey.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:15:10 pm
He looks like he can do the lot to me.  I think you could pair him with any of our midfielders TBH.  I’d like to see him play alongside Ki the most i think.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:16:58 pm
I def change my mind on him needing a strict holder like Hayden or Diame. Seeing him against City and Wolves he was really doing it all.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:18:05 pm
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.

For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.

With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.

Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:25:03 pm
:thup: very good point.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Friday 15 February 2019, 03:48:39 pm
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.

For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.

With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.

Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.


Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 15 February 2019, 04:46:04 pm
I think Longstaff and Shelvey with Shelvey the more attacking of the two could be an interesting partnership.

For me when everyone is fit and in terms of balance it should be Shelvey or Ki with a Diame or a Longstaff.

With the home games to Huddersfield and Burnley coming up we will need to look to create far more than we have the last 3 games. I’d like to see a passer like Ki or Shelvey come in for these Home games coming up where we will need to create more.

Hayden and Longstaff as a pair have been good for what the last 3 games required though.


Huddersfield press so I’d like to see Longstaff and Ki play together but they won’t, he will stick with Hayden and Longstaff , he can’t afford slip ups, Rafa will grind this out.

Aye I’d like to see Ki come in for Huddersfield and Burnley, he played a big role in the 2 home wins in a row against Bournemouth and Watford.

Having saw how the new man at Huddersfield approached the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal they are going to be very very open which should suit us. Arsenal played our 3-4-2-1 system against them too and did them a lot of damage down the sides with the wing backs and on the counter with quick transitions, so could be the absolute ideal match for Almiron to make his home debut too. Just glad we arn’t playing a Palace next who can actually defend I think Burnley will be the hard nut to crack.

Hoping to see Rafa go with Ki with Diame or Longstaff vs Huddersfield :thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 15 February 2019, 04:52:25 pm
More of a general point than anything else but I see Shelvey and Dummett getting closer to full fitness; Diame and Ki too. Perfect time to start getting everybody back with maximum competition for places from now until the season's end. Players rivaling one another for places has always had a very positive effect in Rafa's set-up; one of the benefits of his propensity to rotate: first teamers know their place isn't guaranteed.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:14:53 pm
Dont mean to be rude to Dummett but fail to see what he can actually offer unless we return to 4 at the back
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:43:07 pm
Dont mean to be rude to Dummett but fail to see what he can actually offer unless we return to 4 at the back

Away from home, he would be solid.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Friday 15 February 2019, 05:57:44 pm
Dummett as the left wing back in a back 5 would be poo both home and away.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 15 February 2019, 06:24:40 pm
Cant see it working. He plays too narrow. Would keep backing into Lejuene, pulling Almiron back into lwb and making it a back 6.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Friday 15 February 2019, 06:33:41 pm
Reminds me of an old matty longstaff 👍
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 16 February 2019, 01:14:14 am
Hayden and Longstaff have played well and should keep their shirts imo.


They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.

Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:52:10 am
Reminds me of an old matty longstaff 👍

Isn’t Sean like four inches taller?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:59:05 am
Hayden and Longstaff have played well and should keep their shirts imo.


They’re also the most athletic CMs we have and have allowe us to press higher up the pitch and to be more aggressive.

Shelvey would be the last of the midfield options based on performances this season.

Hmm i dont think Rafa will be thinking that and neither am i, Shelvey would get another chance for me, he does need to step up though, he's been mediocre at best.

Longstaff and Shelvey for me.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Benwell Lad on Saturday 16 February 2019, 11:42:16 am
Most of us will probably admit that the first time we saw the Hayden/Longstaff pairing named we were very concerned, but there's no doubt the pair have performed way above what anyone expected during a very difficult run. Can't be anyone with black and white blood who isn't immensely proud of what Longstaff has achieved.
They'll still be out when the others are all fit but shouldn't be too concerned, like our central defender strength in depth they'll all be needed over a season.
Just a shame we couldn't get ourselves into a decent position by January so they can all be used to cover a busy league and cup schedule.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 16 February 2019, 12:41:40 pm
I don’t think Shelvey comes straight back in at all.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 16 February 2019, 12:48:04 pm
Longstaff and Ki for me.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:13:41 pm
Plays without fear. One of the reasons we need him as we don’t seem to be able to turn it on when we need to against some of the s****.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 16 February 2019, 02:18:34 pm
Longstaff and Ki for me.

I’d like to see this, but expect Ki and Diame.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sbnufc on Thursday 21 February 2019, 06:30:37 pm
Live on total sport right now with Matty too

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewcastle/videos/576181976191590/
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: aussiemag on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:34:59 pm
This kid is probably our best player at the moment. He’s class.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:43:34 pm
Seems to be so brave on the ball, happy to try anything and isn't wasteful. Massively impressed by him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:44:08 pm
Better than Carrick
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:47:08 pm
Better than Gerrard

Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:49:57 pm
Better than Iniesta

Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Aye
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Billy Pilgrim on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:51:24 pm
Lad is a total baller
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ridman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:53:58 pm
Was brilliant today!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:54:13 pm
 :notworthy:

Today should be all about Almiron who was very good, but it's all about this lad yet again. Faultless.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:56:03 pm
Better than Paul Arnison

Bit premature to say, but I have to agree.
Aye
Possibly.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:58:44 pm
This lad is gonna play for England and it won't be far in the future. So composed and unflustered when on the ball. :)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 23 February 2019, 04:58:51 pm
For some reason i've been wanting him to play from very early on in the season, kept waiting for the cup games to watch him and now he's been best player, so much better than Diame who has a scary moment in him and Shelvey who is too lazy in midfield, both of them will have to work to get their place back.

Hayden has done a superb job playing alongside him as well.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Zero on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:00:03 pm
Our best midfielder atm.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:05:05 pm
'Like a new signing' is a cliche but to have this unhyped kid 21-year-old come in from nowhere and boss every Premier League game so far..... we made two major signings last month.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:08:24 pm
Giant of the game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:09:11 pm
Best player on the pitch today. And I’m shocked at his development, he seems to be getting better every game! These sort of things don’t happen to us at Newcastle. I don’t know how to feel.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Elric on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:11:26 pm
Best player on the pitch today. And I’m shocked at his development, he seems to be getting better every game! These sort of things don’t happen to us at Newcastle. I don’t know how to feel.

He'll have been sold before you can clarify your feelings, don't worry man ;)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Collage on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:16:48 pm
I'm impressed by the lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:17:37 pm
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.

Really wanted that shot to go in :(
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:18:49 pm
MoTM for me today. He is just immense. Surely he cant keep this up? Wait he could actually get better than this :o

Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.

Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:20:15 pm
MoTM for me today. He is just immense. Surely he cant keep this up? Wait he could actually get better than this :o

Certainly premature for the senior team but will be nice to see him in the u21s. Shame woodman isn't getting the game time to warrant a call up too.

Also although it's the wrong place have to credit Hayden too who has built up a great partnership.

Southgate will be monitoring his progress - no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:21:25 pm
Wish he'd scored that curler
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:23:45 pm
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.

Really wanted that shot to go in :(

This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Rich on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:25:15 pm
Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:26:53 pm
Wish he'd scored that curler

Would have been mint like.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:28:20 pm
Wish he'd scored that curler

Would have been mint like.
If that had gone in and rondon had converted that sitter he would be a national talking point this weekend. So close. Keep this form up and the national plaudits are a matter of time. Pundits are already on it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:29:36 pm
Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.

Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Collage on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:29:37 pm
We've got our midfield Dummett

:dowie:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:30:35 pm
First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.

Really wanted that shot to go in :(

This is such a horrendous comparision. Longstaff a much more natural footballer.

Yeah, weird sentence. Longstaff has all the attributes needed to be a successful PL midfielder, Dummett doesn't have all the attributes needed to be a successful PL full-back.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:39:31 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 05:49:08 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:00:23 pm
MoTM for me today. He is just immense.

Some of his one touch passes through the lines were superb.

Breaks things up so well too O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:10:28 pm
That tackle and cross for Rondon...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:11:08 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:17:02 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.

Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:25:37 pm
This lad has real talent for what he does. He could be a top player, in a good side, in a few years, he has the potential to be a star. Don’t understand some of the comments I’ve read on here, I’m really excited by what I’ve seen so far. This lad looks the real deal for his position.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 1964 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 06:29:28 pm
Wonder how much he is on.  Sometimes when a young lad gets a big contract they switch off like Aarons, I think Longstaff is a bit more level headed.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: magorific on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:31:12 pm

First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.

Really wanted that shot to go in :(

Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:36:22 pm

First time I've seen him play football today, he's decent, executes the basics better than anyone we've got in that position and nearly always makes the right decision. We've got our midfield Dummett, just hope he pushes on. Got a feeling he might.

Really wanted that shot to go in :(

Our midfield Dummett? You're this board's Joselu...

Ouch.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:38:02 pm
Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.

He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: tgarve on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:46:38 pm
Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.

He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.

Agree fully
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:48:25 pm
Wonder how much he is on.  Sometimes when a young lad gets a big contract they switch off like Aarons, I think Longstaff is a bit more level headed.

Is Longstaff on a long contract already or?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:48:34 pm
If we had signed this lad for 25m and I was judging him based on his price tag, I'd say he was worth every penny.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:51:39 pm
I will be honored to watch him play for ManU one day.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 07:59:53 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.

Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.

I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.

The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:00:47 pm
(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/curb-your-enthusiasm.jpg?w=1000)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:00:52 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.

Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.

I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.

The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.

People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:02:02 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.

Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.

I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.

The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.

People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.

Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:06:25 pm
I think he means dependable squad player from the academy...

That's a disservice to Longstaff because he has all the makings to be more than 'dependable'. He's good enough on this form to play first choice.

That's what he is currently.

Dummett has never once looked like he’s someone capable of being a first choice Premier League full-back. Longstaff looks like he belongs here.

I disagree. Dummett was steady for periods. I really like the look of Longstaff. He had a good game, as he did against Man City the other week, but today we were playing against 10 man Huddersfield who gave him plenty time on the ball, I don't think he was closed down enough. He did what he needed to do and nearly capped it off with a worldy.

The fact that some are already comparing him to Gerrard is doing nobody any favours. Let's just enjoy him for what he currently is and what he could be without telling everyone he's something that he isn't.

People are just taking the p*ss with the Gerrard, Lampard and Carrick comparisons. He's actually slightly better than Iniesta.

Ah, fair enough, it didn't read that way earlier!

I've purposely kept quiet on him mind. I love a local lad playing for the club and get far too emotionally attached to them only to turn s*** or f*** off breaking my heart in the process.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:07:00 pm
Dummett is a comfortable lower Prem full-back imo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:11:42 pm
Would make love to this Las if I had the chance
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:12:45 pm
Dummett is a comfortable lower Prem full-back imo.

In a system with no attacking responsibilities.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:18:05 pm
Would make love to this Las if I had the chance

 :serious:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:20:09 pm
Neat , tidy, quality  :cool:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:22:55 pm
Genuine question; how many on here have seen him in the flesh playing? His stats are a fantastic, he gets all over the pitch, he finds space, he doesn’t panic, he has a range of passing and he reads the game. The amount of second balls he picks up is so impressive; he is the pivot in our midfield and he is the player the team look for in tight situations.

He may not be eye catching but I really do believe he has a chance of being a top player.

He really does look like a seasoned Premier midfielder like. Rafa's not someone to play a young local lad out of sentiment, he's keeping his place because he's doing a great job week in week out.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 February 2019, 08:24:14 pm
That’s the thing now, you know Rafa and staff will make the right decisions about when to play him and give him the best possible advice. Stoked the lad is playing so well.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:19:59 pm
He started alongside Diame in the pre season and they worked well together from what I saw, but that would be cruel on Hayden who has stepped up equally.

Just can’t see Shelvey getting back in. He’s not mobile enough.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:26:15 pm
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:35:49 pm
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood

Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Rich on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:51:29 pm
Reminds me of a young Glenn Hoddle.

Disappointing if he f***ing despises disabled people like.

That didn’t start until he became Old Glenn Hoddle.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 February 2019, 09:54:49 pm
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood

Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.
100% agree with you there my squire.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: SteveMc on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:10:47 pm
Options :)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordiedean on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:16:24 pm
I would like to see shelvey firing balls for almiron at some point, hes the player who would make shelvey look amazing imo. No need to change things at the mo tho, every pass longstaff makes seems to have purpose and not always looking for the Hollywood

Can’t see Shelvey getting back in tbh. Longstaff is more mobile, more aware and is making better decisions, he can mix his passing up and with Lejuenne and Scharr behind him he has the option to lay off to them for them to ping a ball. Lejuenne hits a cross field diagonal Kenny Wharton would be proud of......for me, Longstaff and Ki would potentially make a good pairing. Longstaff likes sitting a little deeper and Ki would benefit by playing a little higher up the pitch. Hayden is doing well however, I think Ki would link in with Perez and Almiron much better.

Shelvey will be binned in the summer and rightly so he's bang average. This lad has all the attributes he doesn't

He will turn into Rafas Geordie Stevie G if Rafa stays
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:31:20 pm
With Lejeune and Schar’s passing ability, he becomes less important.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 23 February 2019, 10:32:42 pm
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:26:48 pm
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.

Aye, but negates the need for a deep sitting playmaker.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ginola on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:47:41 pm
Having someone come through the academy and really make the most of his opportunity like he has is a breath of fresh air. Been really solid for us
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 23 February 2019, 11:48:19 pm
He's Mr Perpetual Motion.

He invites comparison with the greats, so I give you Colin Bell. (Ask your Dads)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:16:24 am
We’ve somehow found a gem here
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:40:33 am
The new Jamie McClen
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordiedean on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:41:57 am
The new Jamie McClen

If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Sunday 24 February 2019, 12:46:54 am
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.

This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: tgarve on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:10:47 am
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.

This so called ability showed up like once or twice a game if you're lucky. We're way better off without him.

Agree I think the shelvey bus has left
Diame aswel back up from now on-
Nice to have some options though- bar rondon and dubs have options every area now
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:18:54 am
If he stays fit I won't bet against Shelvey. We are a different side with him starting imo. I'd love to see him and Matty in the middle, likewise Ki. Thats harsh on Hayden who is doing some unsung defensive work the previous two would struggle with. Shelvey with a bit more freedom to break forward would be excellent. He just seems a bit broken body wise this season but that is due to playing through the pain. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Zero on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:03:57 am
Shelvey is very limited. You need to build the team around him and you know where the ceiling is. Meanwhile Longstaff is a lot more all round and you can partner him with different types of players or adopt different formations.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: CPL on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:51:17 am
This kid really does seem to be the real deal. He looks so calm and composed on the ball. Hayden seemed to be wondering forward too much in the second half. Excited to see how far he progresses this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Sunday 24 February 2019, 07:04:51 am
Very good point on the Chronicle podcast made by one of the pundits on it that we still haven't seen Longstaff's full repertoire. For once I agree with them. He can be devastating playing as an attacking mid, almost as a number 10. He's just such a talented footballer that he's been able to sit in that midfield and do a job following Rafa's instructions.

Hopefully we'll see him given licence to get forward more as every time he's anywhere near edge of the opponents' area something positive seems to happen for us.

He's been truly outstanding and worth the hype. Not surprising considering his talent.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Sunday 24 February 2019, 09:27:37 am
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HawK on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:08:18 am
Sod the U21s, he should be in the full squad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:16:46 am
Sod the U21s, he should be in the full squad.

He's ready, but there's no need to rush him. I think under Southgate's set-up, joining up with the U21s will suit him perfectly.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mighty__mag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:32:40 am
Every game he seems to impress me more. I seriously hope this is the start of something good.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 10:38:40 am
Needs a new chant imo
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mickthemagpie on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:14:00 am
Would be great to see his brother make the first team so we could see two local brothers in the same team again for the first time since the legendary Ameobis.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:41:26 am
Needs a new chant imo

Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 11:49:59 am
Fast becoming one of my favourite players. Our upturn in form coincided with him coming into the side.

Doesn’t put a foot wrong and works his bollocks off.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:00:11 pm
Needs a new chant imo

Aye, and not the ‘he’s one of our own’ one.

heard that on the stream yesterday, please no
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:06:40 pm
Already better than “hendo” and dier put together.

Well, will be one day.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gorilla on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:11:16 pm
It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:13:29 pm
It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.

Yeap, I'm finding it strange why he wasn't given an opportunity a little earlier now.  Guessing he's just stepped up to the level when he needed to.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tribesman on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:26:40 pm
His development has been similar to Kane at Spurs. Nobody expected Kane to become the player he is now, but with injuries and out of form players Kane took his opportunity just like Longstaff. We should remember Benitez did block Longstaff moving to Portsmouth on loan last summer so maybe he did see a good player in Longstaff, but wanted to ease him in much later in the season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 01:55:16 pm
It's strange how he flew under the radar them bam.

This....

I thought bang average and will never make it, as ever Rafa knows, he is the modern midfielder personified.

Credit to his side kick Hayden mind.Some decent talent can’t even get in the match day squad now.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Sunday 24 February 2019, 02:42:33 pm
That curler in the second half, man.  What a goal that would have been.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:04:37 pm
If you think that 3 of the 4 post hits were a chip the keeper after a brilliant one touch team move, a left footed volley thunder b****** and a right footed curler from outside the box you’d have some goal of the season candidates all in one bloody match.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pata on Sunday 24 February 2019, 03:30:39 pm
As good as they both are, neither come close to his ability.

Shelvey puts the team under enormous pressure when his every second touch is an attempted 50 yard Hollywood pass. They are great when they succeed but every time the pass doesn't come off, rest of the team have to work hard just to get the ball back. He has immense talent but I really hate his decision making.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: M1tche on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:15:01 pm
Havent full read the ladst few pages, but im slightly more exciting about him than Almiron atm, seems to do everything very well so are and it will be good to see just how good he can be.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:21:44 pm
I was willing that shot inside the post; it was a tremendous effort and I think that moment really elevated my perception of him. He isn't just an academy product holding his own... nor is he just defying expectations with good performances... he's actively changing games and consistently looking like one of the very best players on the pitch. All this coming from centre-midfield as well, which is probably the most influential area of the pitch after centre-forward. Unbelievably difficult to make the step up and own a position like that in this league; we should be very excited.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:55:34 pm
He has been incredible, can't quite believe it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Sunday 24 February 2019, 04:57:38 pm
He's had 68 appearances over the past two seasons with Kilmarnock and Blackpool. Playing time matters.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sbnufc on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:09:15 pm
Ashley will be champing at the bit to cash in on him already
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:11:45 pm
He's had 68 appearances over the past two seasons with Kilmarnock and Blackpool. Playing time matters.

:thup: uses his body relatively well given he’s a fairly whispish lad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Danh1 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:16:00 pm
Needs a new chant imo

The SC were chanting “his name’s Sean Longstaff and he loves the Toon” yesterday like, reviving Joey Barton’s chant.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:21:01 pm
What’s wrong with a simple, ‘There’s only one Sean Longstaff’. It’s not like we use it for anyone else.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: QuakesMag on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:24:15 pm
What’s wrong with a simple, ‘There’s only one Sean Longstaff’. It’s not like we use it for anyone else.

walking along
dragging his schlong
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 24 February 2019, 05:27:13 pm
The new Jamie McClen

If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy

think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Sunday 24 February 2019, 06:10:41 pm
The new Jamie McClen

If he turns out as good as Clarkie or Stevie Watson/Alan Thompson id be happy

think clarkie was decent but a tad overrated tbh. think watson, thompson and even elliot (before he left us the first time) were better.

Nah, Clark was better than all of those (though he played a different position to all of those) if he’d had any pace he’d have been top notch. A Sunday side I used to play for had our home games at the old training ground at Benwell for a while, Clark was playing for the young un’s on the pitch next to us at one of the games and I swear that our game stopped and watched as he went past about 5 opposition players with the minimum of fuss. He did really good jobs for the mackems and Fulham.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 24 February 2019, 09:08:22 pm
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Monday 25 February 2019, 02:39:55 am
Longstaff not only has what it takes downstairs in his feet to make it big, but more importantly he has what it takes upstairs in his head as well. Which combined is a rarity that should give us all a degree of confidence even at this early stage to get excited enough about.

Talent aside which he has demonstrated enough of, it’s his football brain that stands out the most. On and off the ball he reads the game so well, is so composed and he often makes the right decision.

Although not an obvious athlete in terms of physical strength, power and pace, he has the right athletic physique in terms of height and build coupled with high energy and mobility levels. Energy and mobility that enable him to get up and down the pitch for 90 minutes and compete physically with others without exerting himself to the point of running himself imo the ground.

Best of all though he has a rare temprement for an English player on and off the ball, especially a midfielder, and that rarity is self composure. He doesn’t panic, rush, or chase after the ball or man, he doesn’t play the ball out aimlessly whether deep or under pressure, instead always looking to play the ball out to a team-mate, to feet short or long, or into space short or long, forwards, sideways or backwards. He doesn’t rush into tackles either and has this knack that beliesmhis age and experience of being in the right place at the right time.

He’s been compared to Carrick by a few and I myself have compared him to Jordan Henderson, but looking back through the years, he reminds of of David Batty, not the Batty of Blackburn fame, a tough tackling defensive midfielder limited on the ball, but the Batty we saw under Keegan who was all of that and much more.

Regardless, he will become a top top player if he keeps working hard and keeps his feet on the ground because he has it all, especially upstairs.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordiedean on Monday 25 February 2019, 03:07:39 am
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.

for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 25 February 2019, 08:52:50 am
Well, aye.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cookie1892 on Monday 25 February 2019, 09:14:34 am
he looks a class act like.

the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well

im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Monday 25 February 2019, 09:23:42 am
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.

for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box

“And this guy we call Giant”

“On account of him being 7’ 11” tall”
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordie john on Monday 25 February 2019, 01:27:22 pm
he looks a class act like.

the lads only 21 so talking about his physique and stuff is a but strange for me, gerrard was a skinny whippet at 21 as well

im hoping he becomes a lampard/gerrard type

Jees....wouldn't that be heaven? Scared to even think about it....
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 25 February 2019, 02:41:07 pm
Yeah, Clark was a very, very good player. He did earn the nickname Jigsaw, though.

for his ability to completely go to pieces in the box

Really? I thought it was because he looked like the Saw villain.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Monday 25 February 2019, 04:19:10 pm
I thought it was due to his hobbie in woodcraft.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 25 February 2019, 05:05:53 pm
I genuinely used to think it was because he was a bit of a div in a sort of "Here son, this jigsaw will keep you entertained." kind of way.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: TooonDoom on Monday 25 February 2019, 05:41:06 pm
I genuinely used to think it was because he was a bit of a div in a sort of "Here son, this jigsaw will keep you entertained." kind of way.
You were a bit of a jigsaw. 

😉
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: frankpingel on Monday 25 February 2019, 06:55:17 pm
"Potentially a Rolls Royce of a player" according to Tyne Tees News, hard to argue.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Monday 25 February 2019, 06:59:32 pm
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:19:52 pm
Really glad that Rafa has kept him in the side despite the senior lads being available again. He's earned the shirt and should absolutely keep it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: CPL on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:36:02 pm
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.

Is there a link to this?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:40:27 pm
Pervert
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sean on Monday 25 February 2019, 07:43:34 pm
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.

Is there a link to this?

Not sure, I heard them while in the car. They were full of praise for the lad and rightly so, I think at one point they were saying he has to be in the England squad (a bit premature like but hey).

They were also speculating whether Rafa will stay next year.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 08:56:30 pm
Crazy how relaxed he looks for such a young lad. Supoib.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 08:57:20 pm
Xabi Alongstaff.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 08:58:26 pm
Finish reminded me of Iniesta in the World Cup final
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 1964 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 08:59:11 pm
 Keown just said he’s better than that Rice kid at West Ham :lol:  it’s all going too well
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 09:00:07 pm
Can't believe our luck getting the Michael Carrick regen come through our youth ranks.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: La Parka on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 09:49:58 pm
Can't believe our luck getting the Michael Carrick regen come through our youth ranks.

Touted the next Michael Carrick. One of the best players of his generation.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:00:50 pm
Would have been a good chance he’d have won Player of the Month had it not been for Aguero.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:02:19 pm
Fantastic tonight and so chuffed he scored at home.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:02:52 pm
Declan Rice will be wishing he stuck with Ireland.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:03:37 pm
He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ginola on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:03:41 pm
Buzzing for him getting his goal. He's been brilliant since he's come in to the team
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:07:19 pm
What a great day for Sean. Clinical finish and another great performance.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Wilson on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:07:58 pm
Playing well, speaking well, buzzing for him.

:clap:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:11:56 pm
Really like him. Taking his chance so well
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:20:44 pm
Comes across amazingly well in interviews. Seems a really sound, level headed guy. Future captain material.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NEEJ on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:21:23 pm
Delighted it's still going so well for him. He looks the real deal and that goal will do his confidence no harm whatsoever. Plays like he's got 10 year's professional experience under his belt.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Willow on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:24:50 pm
"It was a really good game, I knew it was going to be very tough but we took our chances in the first half and then the second half we kept their chances to a minimum.

"I say it everyday, I am in such a lucky position to be where I am, scoring and feeling the atmosphere tops it off.

"We know it is still very close and a couple of results can change it. We know we can change it by winning and it is a lot nicer to look up the table rather than down.

"I had about 10 people here, to have them here watching is a great night for me and the team.

"I can’t put the feeling into words just pure emotion. The atmosphere is amazing."
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 1892er on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:36:30 pm
Ridiculous how calm this lad is. Steps up to the first team, sprays balls all over the pitch, outplays man city's midfield and now has a thoroughly deserved goal. To top it off he handles the interview like a boss. I'd be a stuttering wreck and nervous as f***. Stuff of dreams for him. I'm over the moon for him  :smitten:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Jimburst on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:38:18 pm
Where’s he from?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:39:04 pm
North Shields.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Big Geordie on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:39:13 pm
Another super, mature performance from the lad. Brilliant. :)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:40:34 pm
So pleased he's growing each game, now chipping in with goals. Hope he is something special for us.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: samptime29 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:46:10 pm
North Shields.

Delish I lived in North Shields for a while. Gan on lad!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:48:47 pm
He's a proper player like. So composed and looks as if he's been playing at this level for years.

Great finish too, delighted for him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:50:02 pm
Kid has everything for a midfielder.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Divun Naa on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:52:41 pm
Especially impressed that he didn't let the knuckledraggers from Burnley get him sent off.  Keep it up fella.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: madras on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:54:09 pm
Too many long rangy passes, no Thundering tackles, only scored once. Lucky to be in the squad.





(Keep his feet on the ground)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:54:47 pm
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:56:21 pm
He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.

Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: bigfella on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 10:59:17 pm
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.

Yep, I noticed that, fair play to the lad, showed a lot of maturity to not jump in.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:03:08 pm
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.

Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:18:01 pm
He really has been outstanding pretty much every game he played, i really loved that Blackburn game as it was what started all of this, hope he can keep this up and he might just find himself in the full England Squad.

Too bad it's not a tournament summer - be lovely to get a "bolter into the England" squad story about him :thup:

U21 Championships this summer - he'll be brought through for that before stepping up.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: FustinoSolano on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:21:31 pm
Looks like he's been bossing premier league games for years! Class, composure and ability in absolute abundance paired with a great attitude and grounded mentality.

Took his goal really well, a very clever and subtle first touch to set it up perfectly for a crisp strike into the bottom corner.

It's easy to get carried away with young players coming through sometimes and get hopes up unrealistically high but it's difficult not to get excited by this lad, he doesn't only have the ability but he has the footballing nous and intelligence to go along with it, that's a rare quality in young footballers these days, plenty have ability, power, athleticism, pace etc but Longstaff reads the game extremely well and can therefore dictate and control play and contribute far more than most midfield players.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:25:10 pm
There was one moment (after he'd been booked) where he showed real composure not to jump into a challenge after losing the ball. Funny enough I was never worried, just knew he'd be too clever for that.

Thought exactly the same..he is cold as ice.

Seems to have a great temperament about him :thup:
Looks the real deal :smitten:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: M1tche on Tuesday 26 February 2019, 11:27:17 pm
Gone from 5th choice to 1st choice in such a short space of time, the pairing with Hayden works so well. Made me go from hoping Shelvey gets fit quickly to thinking he has no place in this system unless he massively changes his game. We have an absolute gem on our hands, keep it up young man
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Paullow on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:30:44 am
absolutely spunking all over him on talksport - andy townsend and Adrian durham. they absolutely love him.

Is there a link to this?

https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1551110400/1551115800/

3 mins in
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:51:49 am
Amazing how things progress, when I first came aware of him he never stood out for me and I don’t mean that in a derogatory way just that he was nothing spectacular. However the last few performances have been top drawer, his composure and presence in midfield have been a joy to watch at home and the hype is justified for me .

Talk of England is great for the lad and his boss seems intent on keeping him out the limelight, we have “stumbled “ on a terrific talent in the modern game of playing......good luck to the lad.

He will be worth a few quid now  :naughty:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:14:07 am
He doing great. He was understandably a little reserved in the first game or two, but now he's hitting so many confident forward passes. He also repeatedly wins the ball back high up the pitch. He's playing like he's been in the first team for years, not ten games.

Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:25:03 am
What a player this kid is going to be.  Composure, stamina, anticipation and an eye for a pass.  He’s got it all.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:42:19 am
His style reminds me a little of Ki, good touch and moves the ball so well.

On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:52:01 am
His style reminds me a little of Ki, good touch and moves the ball so well.

On level 7 I sometimes mix him an Lejune up due to the boots and their silky touches/passing.

i actually thought we could have done with Ki in at times yesterday (not instead of longstaff mind) as their midfield did a decent job of pressuring ours when the ball went into them often forcing them to pass back to schar/lejuene or horizontally to the wingbacks...ki has a very useful knack of being able to turn out of pressure and into space that would have opened the game up a bit more for us i feel

i mean you can't complain, just something i noticed
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 07:57:20 am
The brimful of asha chant is great.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:26:40 am
Sam Fender needs to write a song about him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:41:32 am
https://www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-winner-lovely-surprise-sean-longstaff
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sportnet on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:56:40 am
What a player this kid is going to be.  Composure, stamina, anticipation and an eye for a pass.  He’s got it all.

can pass with his left as well
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: James on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 10:59:01 am
I have been very impressed with Sean Longstaff, I have the feeling he could be the next Rob Lee
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: SiLvOR on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:11:59 pm
He doing great. He was understandably a little reserved in the first game or two, but now he's hitting so many confident forward passes. He also repeatedly wins the ball back high up the pitch. He's playing like he's been in the first team for years, not ten games.

Just a little theory, but I reckon our season turned when Shelvey went off injured in that Watford home game. Ki came on and started playing 10 yards further forward than Shelvey had been. Unlike Shelvey, this allowed Ki to hit shorter passes to feet. Since then, we've been playing much better football, even when Ki went off to the Asian Cup. Lejeune has also come back and we now have Lejeune and Schar serving as deep-lying distributors, the main responsibility that had fallen on Shelvey. This means the role of our center mids has changed and it is now one that Longstaff and Hayden have taken to with relish. Given the holistic approach Rafa takes, I think it is fair to assume that our midfield is now getting to do what Rafa wanted it to do all along. The plan was never to have a midfielder take it off Cieran Clark or Lascelles and ping it somewhere with no-one to collect a second ball or offer an option to a lone forward with the ball.

Nice theory, makes sense to me! Think this kid is an absolute gem, was so pleased for his goal yesterday.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:18:40 pm
Midfielders taking the ball off defenders’ toes is always a bad sign for me. In the modern game you need some defenders who can play.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:25:17 pm
5* potential on FM19. Somebody knew about this kid.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:27:26 pm
The brimful of asha chant is great.

What replaces 'nutter in the middle'?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:31:25 pm
Stottie, what a terrific post man.

There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:36:51 pm
Stottie, what a terrific post man.

There’s just something extra satisfying about the way this kid carries himself on the pitch. He’s so calm and his presence is massive. That finish was something you see a 20 goal striker would be proud of, settled down and lashed ruthlessly into the net. Reminded me of a Diego Costa goal from a few years ago.

Agree with this. He looked almost frantic with excitement when he sensed the opportunity, but once he was in position it was a very composed finish. Seen a good few bright lights burn and fade but he just keeps defying that expectation. Getting better with each game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:55:05 pm
bored of saying it, but he's so much like Carrick
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 12:58:33 pm
Nah don’t be bored of it - carrick was generally a brilliant player. Incredible if he does it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:00:22 pm
I didn’t really think of Carrick until the comparison appeared in the media TBH. His style doesn’t really remind me of Carrick that much.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:00:31 pm
This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:01:21 pm
Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:03:37 pm
Together with Hayden and our back three, we now have a real beast of a defence. I've just done the math - in the last 450 minutes of Premiership football, we've conceded only three goals (against Man City, Spurs and Wolves). One goal every two and a half hours. Outside the top six, we have nothing to fear with that behind us.

He's also boosted the attack with his passing. He doesn't need a steadying touch on the ball to pass accurately and that makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:07:22 pm
I much prefer his play style to Carrick, much more progressive but is the way he moves on the ball that reminds of him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:29:32 pm
Shelvey will be sold in the summer and this lad can have his shirt number.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 01:49:20 pm
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11649315/sean-longstaff-is-newcastles-new-star-and-has-the-right-attitude-too
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 02:39:35 pm
This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance

Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: jonny1403 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 02:58:23 pm
Very odd comment on his Wiki page  :lol:

Quote
Longstaff's younger brother Matthew is also a footballer currently playing for Newcastle United. Their father David is a former Great Britain ice hockey player, featuring over 100 times for the national side, and is still active as player/coach for the Whitley Warriors.[8] Their father is also the cousin of former England international Alan Thompson. Longstaff's mother also participates in sports such as Netball where she strangled a 15 year old with a bib.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 03:00:36 pm
This lad's emergence really shows how much luck is involved in making it at the highest level in football. There's loads of great players out there that just need a chance

Yup. If it weren't for injuries he would never have gotten a chance here either. Too much money at stake for managers to dare giving untested players a chance. In his Burnley post match interview Rafa said as much, although alluded that he would eventually have gotten a chance anyway but it was progressed faster due to injuries but I'm not so confident that this is the truth as it would have depended on how we were doing. No way he would have got a chance if relegation was still a possibility.


Wouldn’t be anywhere near the squad but for injuries
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 03:03:10 pm
Is Shelvey still injured or just not making the squad?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 03:42:41 pm
Injuries have definitely helped Longstaff BUT there must be a reason Rafa didn't let him leave on loan to Pompey. Turned out to be a great decision.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 04:06:54 pm
I didn’t really think of Carrick until the comparison appeared in the media TBH. His style doesn’t really remind me of Carrick that much.

Reminds me more of a young Andy Cole!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 04:16:16 pm
He reminds me of Pirlo but better.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: cp40 on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 04:19:05 pm
Hes nee Jack Colback
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:25:37 pm
Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:

It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: James on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:29:26 pm
I have been very impressed with Sean Longstaff, I have the feeling he could be the next Rob Lee

Did anyone get spot this classic reference or am I the only one who remembers HTT posts from what must be nearly 15 years ago :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 05:45:54 pm
Sewelly won't be happy with these Carrick comparisons :lol:

It's slanderous. I've seen Longstaff pass it forward.

hahahah, its the way he moves, I agree though. Much more positive and attacking threat
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 06:09:12 pm
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: madras on Wednesday 27 February 2019, 11:49:32 pm
I get the Carrick comparisons but only inn the coolness and tempo way. Reminds me a little of Woodgate defensively in that he just edges opposition out rather than blockbuster challenges.

Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced  ?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Smal on Thursday 28 February 2019, 12:17:47 am
Gets in the opposition area a lot more than Carrick did.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Thursday 28 February 2019, 01:20:04 am
Hes nee Jack Colback

Thank f***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Thursday 28 February 2019, 05:37:20 am
I get the Carrick comparisons but only inn the coolness and tempo way. Reminds me a little of Woodgate defensively in that he just edges opposition out rather than blockbuster challenges.

Got to wonder if Rafa would have used him if he wasn't forced  ?


Who cares, sometimes life throws a curve ball and it turns out great, this was it, you get a chance and boom you take it....the likes of Armstrong didn’t and Rooney did.(granted one had more ability than the other)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 28 February 2019, 07:36:31 am
Hes nee Jack Colback

Thank f***.

Hope this puts to bed the knock the local lads myth. Colback was a bell and utter s*** - Dummett is a nice lad and an athlete but has his limitations. In a larger squad he has a place. People love this lad and respect his attitude and application.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: alijmitchell on Friday 1 March 2019, 01:18:19 am
Love seeing this guy do his thing for us! He’s class and so great to have a midfielder come through the academy for once.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 05:19:13 am
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mickthemagpie on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:30:32 am
No pressure there then!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:39:47 am

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:39:49 am
Had to go and ruin a good post. :lol:

The new owners will never sell him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:41:55 am

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?

Sancho will likely come back here or to someone like Real Madrid too in the next few years.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:52:43 am
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

In terms of their composure on the ball, their ability to make space for themselves under pressure and their efficiency with the ball, they are very similar. I can see where the comparisons are coming from even if their playing styles are different.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kid Icarus on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:58:31 am
I feel like we should calm down a bit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:00:28 am
Best Newcastle fan to represent the first team since the great Alexandr Mitrovic left and you’re saying, ‘calm down’.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Collage on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:01:30 am
He reminds me of Lampard somewhat. Constantly turning his head to keep track of players around him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:01:32 am
I feel like we should calm down a bit.

First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Collage on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:02:55 am
I feel like we should calm down a bit.

First thing we've had to get excited about in years and you want us to calm down?! f*** that, i'm getting his face tattooed on my arse

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:05:08 am
Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

Been watching athletics and so read that as 100 metres.  He's long, but not that long!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kid Icarus on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:06:11 am
The posts about how he has some better attributes than Michael Carrick would say aye, just a bit like. :lol: Similarly the ones about not needing Shelvey anymore.

He's been a revelation, I just think there's no rush, he looks like he has what it takes though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:10:19 am
His song selection is pretty rubbish like, we need to work on it.

We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)

We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:20:00 am
The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing

Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:25:33 am
The brimful of asha one is canny imo, dont think I've heard that used for a chant before and I prefer originality to changing the words to something everyone's singing

Was used by us for Joey Barton wasn’t it? Nutter instead of Geordie though.
Just realised that and thought I'd gotten away with it 😔
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:32:37 am
I feel like we should calm down a bit.

:thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:36:41 am
I feel like we should calm down a bit.
This. He's played 7 premier league games
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Friday 1 March 2019, 09:57:33 am
Definitely, he's playing well, just keep supporting him and hopefully he can keep progressing.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:20:16 am
If you can't get overly excited about a homegrown wunderkid coming through the ranks of your team, hitting the ground sprinting and being talked up in the media as an England prospect, why are we here?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:20:56 am
To ensure we get 40 points every season and get good exposure for Sports Direct. Keep up mate.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:36:16 am
It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.

Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:37:16 am
It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.

Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.

:thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:40:43 am
Imagine the reaction on here if some Mackem had said one of their kids who'd played less than 10 times for the first team would be England's first £100m player :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:41:54 am
It's a bit early to claim that he's a "wunder kid". The more people build him up now the further the fall is if he doesn't get to the level so many people are hoping/anticipating. It looks like he will be a solid addition to our squad potentially for years to come, but whether it's as a key player, squad player or back-up player depends on how he improves and how consistent he is going forward. For all we know this could just be a purple patch. It's been 7 games.

Be excited and enjoy the ride but I hope people don't put unnecessary pressure on him.

To be honest, he looks like a key player already. He's strengthened the defence and helped to give us a proper counter-attacking game. We're not just hoofing it forward.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:46:52 am

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

Sterling and Kane staying put in the meantime?

Spurs and Man City will be holding out for £200M, Ashley will accept the first offer he gets.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: arnonel on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:55:30 am
10 year contract please
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 10:59:06 am
Full confidence the lad could cure Brexit
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Friday 1 March 2019, 11:35:35 am
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?

The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Friday 1 March 2019, 11:39:40 am
The way he moves and his size is similar to Carrick. Hope he doesn't end up playing really deep as he has great technique on his shots
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: 54 on Friday 1 March 2019, 12:03:32 pm
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Friday 1 March 2019, 12:04:31 pm
Player of the millennium imo
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 1 March 2019, 12:06:20 pm
Miss Universe 2019. She can still play for the toon though, yeah?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:21:07 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:24:20 pm
Had to go and ruin a good post. :lol:

The new owners will never sell him.

was tongue in cheek tbf :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:27:21 pm
His song selection is pretty rubbish like, we need to work on it.

We were short-staffed,
Now we're long-staffed
(To sit down, shut up/play up Pompey)

We trained him at John Spence
To batter your defence
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh
Sean Longstaff
Woooaahhh

I need some Longstaff baby this evenin
I want some Longstaff baby tonight
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: themanupstairs on Friday 1 March 2019, 02:28:49 pm
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?

The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.

That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:04:34 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)

Surprised he's only 63cm.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Fugazi on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:08:41 pm
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/stillgame/images/4/4f/Nintchdbpict000277715549.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180325204901)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:12:15 pm
Tbf he's not exactly good looking. Him and Almiron are a far cry from out season in the 5th
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:30:47 pm
Schar > Newcastle squad 11/12
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:43:30 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)

Surprised he's only 63cm.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Friday 1 March 2019, 03:46:52 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)

Surprised he's only 63cm.

Reminds me of David Batty in that pic.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tsunami on Friday 1 March 2019, 07:20:31 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

We need to get voting on this.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Willow on Friday 1 March 2019, 07:29:06 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)

Surprised he's only 63cm.

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Skeletor on Friday 1 March 2019, 08:16:07 pm
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

What a flattering photo of him, looks like he's just emerged sweat-drenched from the New Monkey at 3am.

(https://i.imgur.com/F4AwU7a.png)

Surprised he's only 63cm.

"Hey John can you do the stats for Newcastle's youth players"
"Awww man....hmmm I have an idea"

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lUJ1YoZB1lHVPG/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Toon No9 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:17:00 am
Nothing about him reminds me of Carrick. Not that he wasn't an immense player in his own right. He's just a different midfielder with a different style of play. Longstaff is more attack minded and would score/assist many more than Carrick did if he went on and fulfilled his potential.

Longstaff will be the first 100M English player in the next few years.

So we are suggesting Carrick didn’t reach his potential?

The £100m is a mad statement at this point. 7 starts.

That's not what I meant. I just think he's more attack minded than Carrick was. Not suggesting he's better or even close to him yet. If he were to reach that level though, he would be scoring and assisting more simply because he's a more attack minded player.
I think he looks more like a Frank Lampard type of player.
Calm on the ball, good decisions, good passer and a good shot.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kevo on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:27:59 am
He was the best centre midfielder on the pitch away to Chelsea, Spurs and at home to Man City, Huddersfield, Burnley (Haven't seen his other few games).

I'd say it is worth getting carried away. To see a footballer who has virtually no experience of the top flight dominate some of the best footballers in the league if not the world is a rare sight. He stood out like a sore thumb against Huddersfield and Burnley, streets ahead of what they have. He oozes class and his composure is something I haven't seen for Newcastle for a very, very long time. The way he just pushes players off the ball and gets out of sticky situations then puts us on the front foot is beautiful.

 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:40:32 am
Not sure why there's such an obsession with trying to say which former player he's gonna be like? Let him be his own player. Likes to win the ball back, makes himself available for the ball, good range of passing, great stamina, doesn't panic and got a decent cross and shot on him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:44:47 am
He's the new Sean Longstaff
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BergenMagpie on Saturday 2 March 2019, 10:40:14 am
Can vote here https://plpotm.easports.com/

We need to get voting on this.

If there wouldnt be any Liverpool players available hed might have a shot. Liverpool fans are trying so hard to be passionate that it becomes embarrassing for everyone involved. Like when they voted Salahs goal against Everton to be goal of the year, probably as they couldnt stand the idea of Bales goal against them in the CL final getting any more recognition
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 2 March 2019, 01:30:37 pm
The constant debate building up to the West Ham game about who’s better out of him and Declan Rice is weird. Championing who will be better for England... it’s embarassing.




It’s definitely Longstaff.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 2 March 2019, 01:49:10 pm
I mean, can be deleted if needs be, but does scoring on his first match with the senior team warrant a thread?

Surprised by how big he is. Didn't look small next to Diame and Shelvey and they're both big lads.

Really rooting for him. Would like to see someone force their way into the team and he looks like he could make the grade.

This lad knew.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:48:22 pm
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Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:52:23 pm
His range of passing is really excellent. And he can run a bit.  Defensively aware.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 07:54:55 pm
His range of passing is really excellent. And he can run a bit.  Defensively aware.

did well after a dodgy start on the ball i thought, which was encouraging

people comparing him to rice pre-game...now i've seen more of rice i don't know why as longstaff seems much better on the ball and rice much better defensively from limited viewing
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 2 March 2019, 08:34:58 pm
I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 2 March 2019, 08:57:41 pm
I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.

Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:01:38 pm
Another case of the player who pretends to be the most injured gets away with it
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:17:19 pm
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Jonjo hiding the instruments what done the deed.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Saturday 2 March 2019, 09:20:40 pm
He’s far more attacking minded than Rice, if anything they would make a great pairing for England at some point down the line.

Didn’t have a great half today. West Ham just swarmed us out the wings so it was impossible to keep the ball.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 2 March 2019, 11:00:56 pm
Please be ok and just a precaution. 
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NUFC on Saturday 2 March 2019, 11:38:25 pm
Thought he was lucky to only get a yellow today, have seen other refs go red due to the speed he went into that tackle
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Sunday 3 March 2019, 09:56:24 am
Any news on the lad?

Will be like a new signing when he’s back
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:49:39 am
I thought he'd got done by Snodgrass even thought he got the free kick and Longstaff got a yellow, him leaving on crutches sort of confirms that.

Agreed. I honestly thought the ref was gonna book Snodgrass.

It was a 50/50 at best, they both did the same thing. Yellow was very harsh.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:58:57 am
Thought he was lucky to only get a yellow today, have seen other refs go red due to the speed he went into that tackle

I've watched the replay and even in slomo it's difficult to see what happens, because it's so fast. So I wouldn't have been surprised by a red. But if you look at the shape of Longstaffs legs just before the tackle, it was perfectly legit.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Bimpy474 on Sunday 3 March 2019, 11:56:54 am
Never a red card in million years, yellow was harsh imo as well. Aye he got there second but not every tackle is a booking, not that you would think the way the game is officiated now but Longstaff tackle was genuine, without excessive force and wasn't in anyway studs up.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Stifleaay on Sunday 3 March 2019, 02:54:56 pm
It was a 50/50 ball, no one really did a foul. I’m kind of sick of the mentality that just because you make contact and don’t get the ball it’s an automatic foul and at least a yellow card. It makes 50/50 balls impossible to go for, it would also mean that any shoulder barge is now an automatic foul.
West Ham played the referee well yesterday, but the referee wanted to be played by them. Any sort of contact or even if it looked like we were going to make contact then they went down and the referee was giving it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Sunday 3 March 2019, 06:48:38 pm
the only red that should've been given was for that c*** Noble.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: prefabtoon on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:07:33 pm
Bloody Snodgrass did a job on longstaff so called professionals should be banned from playing.
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HTT on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:25:50 pm
It was a 50/50 challenge begging to be contested which both players were committed to which didn’t result in winning the ball, but taking each other out in a coming together that looked worse than it was. There was no nasty stuff or intent to injure each other much less they themselves, but that’s what happened. It was the equiverlent of a clash of heads really with no guilty party or anyone at fault more than the other. There should have been no yellow card at all, but if you are to card one, you have to card both. The referee was poor throughout, no surprises there...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 3 March 2019, 10:47:31 pm
Longstaff has demonstrated he loves going in for a challenge, but he also showed last week (when on a yellow) that he's smart enough to know when not to go in. If he can keep up that sort of judgement, he's going to be genuine class - even if it means he gets the odd yellow from stupid refs who don't know the rules.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The College Dropout on Monday 4 March 2019, 10:24:28 am
I thought the challenge was a little naive.  It favoured Snodgrass 70-30 imo. But Longstaff has long determined he was going for it. No biggie.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Monday 4 March 2019, 12:33:31 pm
Couldn’t give a single f*** about the card or challenge. Just hope his lay-off is minimal to none. Hes been so bloody good for us.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Monday 4 March 2019, 09:32:59 pm
Bloody Snodgrass did a job on longstaff so called professionals should be banned from playing.
He was probably told to get something on longstaff from the start.
They never change west ham dirty bast***

He’s a horrible c***, Snodgrass.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Paully on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:05:22 am
I’ve heard from a good source that it looks like he’s out for the season and it could be ligament damage FFS
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:28:45 am
Of course. We can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:35:17 am
Shame, but hope he concentrates on being 100% for next season. There's f*** all to play for this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: steve_69 on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:52:36 am
Shame, but hope he concentrates on being 100% for next season. There's f*** all to play for this season.

Tell that to the guy who might be missing out on an England place because of injury
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 12:34:57 pm
God damn it. Football is so annoying at times man.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 04:54:48 pm
Of course. We can't have nice things.

 :lol: It really is like that though innit?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 05:56:23 pm
SOFT c***
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 06:16:29 pm
I’ve heard from a good source that it looks like he’s out for the season and it could be ligament damage FFS

Typical.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Charlies on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 08:58:19 pm
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s***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:20:15 pm
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s***.
Next season then. Hope Rafa sends him to the same specialist that helped Lejeune.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Yorkie on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:49:26 pm
Cruel.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 09:56:55 pm
We just can't have nice things. Devastating, if true :(
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 10:33:41 pm
Apparently only 6-8 weeks if he doesn’t need surgery :thup:

Seems a decision will be made based on what the specialist suggests.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 5 March 2019, 11:47:54 pm
Of course. We can't have nice things.

 :lol: It really is like that though innit?

It is.  :jesuswept:

There's been very few extremely bright lights during the last 10 dark years for me (if we go beyond a couple of results and a handful of decent players who has used us a stepping stone to keep me going):
1. Carroll - Sold at the first and best opportunity
2. Ben Arfa - Got his leg snapped in half and neglected by a turd manager after Houghton was replaced.
3. Now it's Longstaff. Wait for a new manager to come in and never use him properly ever again.
4. Rafa Benitez - Just waiting for the inevitable this summer
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:08:53 am
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:11:28 am
Such a pisser. Hopefully he'll get a proper pre season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:27:04 am
Real shame for the lad, looking forward to seeing him back.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Anderson on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:30:22 am
Shame, was probably looking at an international tournament with the U21s this summer too.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: covmag on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:36:34 am
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger.  O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: thenige on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:37:28 am
Gutted for the lad, but at least Diame and Ki are fit now so we have options.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: STM on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:43:24 am
It's actually 2 months, at least he will be fine for pre season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: 54 on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:48:48 am
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: HaydnNUFC on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:52:58 am
Ki, Shelvey and Diame aren't exactly the worst replacements in the world. Gutted for Longstaff, like.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 7 March 2019, 09:54:42 am
Not great, but at least some of it's during the summer.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:10:05 am
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger.  O0

This can never be classed as a blessing like
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:16:19 am
Knew all of our excitement about him will end up with something like this, he's a hero regardless and can't wait to have him back.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:17:20 am
Played his last game for Rafa
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: STM on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:20:05 am
Played his last game for Rafa

Is there any need?  :lol:

Joeyt brightening up everyone's day.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:39:03 am
Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:42:54 am
Aye Snodgrass doesn't have a history of getting bad injuries
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:53:56 am
Aye Snodgrass doesn't have a history of getting bad injuries

What point are you trying to make?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: covmag on Thursday 7 March 2019, 10:56:06 am
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger.  O0

This can never be classed as a blessing like

Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Bimpy474 on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:11:17 am
Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on

Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: St1pe on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:11:36 am
One of the few very limited positives this season has been watching him get his chance and get better every game.

Fingers crossed he recovers well and earns his place back next season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:20:43 am
I'm not that concerned about the injury. Doesn't seem 'that' bad. Just more concerned that he'll be put back with the U23's when he comes back by some dinosaur like Allardyce.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 11:21:21 am
Always due something like this after Almiron escaped injury with Smith though.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 7 March 2019, 12:10:01 pm
Why the hell does these things never happen to the players that we're not that fussed about? :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 7 March 2019, 12:50:32 pm
Why the hell does these things never happen to the players that we're not that fussed about? :lol:

Because the likes of Colback and Joselu never exert themselves enough to be a in dangerous situation like that. Ginger Jack would have bottled the tackle and let Snodgrass take control.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: HTT on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:13:07 pm
Reminds me of a young Darren Anderton
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:30:09 pm
I do think that challenge was unnecessary.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Disco on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:31:16 pm
Reminds me of a young Darren Anderton

:lol::lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Beren on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:36:16 pm
Reduces his chances of being sold. Yay.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: frankpingel on Thursday 7 March 2019, 01:40:12 pm
I had the same initial thought Beren, very sad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 7 March 2019, 02:39:59 pm
Of course the young lad gets hurt and Snodgrass continues clogging on

Are you saying that you think Snodgrass injured Sean on purpose ?

No, I'm saying in a 50/50 challenge the young local lad* who plays for Newcastle gets hurt, loses momentum in his breakthrough season, and the elder midfielder who plays for a club I couldn't care about continues on.

*who happens to be nominated for PL player of month, getting looks for England, scored his first PL goal at home match prior, was bossing matches, etc.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 7 March 2019, 04:56:47 pm
Might just be a blessing, he will come back stronger.  O0

This can never be classed as a blessing like

Maybe wrong choice of word but burn out quickly could have happened, he will comeback 1st game of season strong and hungry.

He only came into the team in January and he's 21, I doubt any kind of burn out would have occurred, I imagine he'll have just got stronger.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Collage on Thursday 7 March 2019, 05:46:35 pm
Sigh.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Thursday 7 March 2019, 05:47:32 pm
Hopefully he will make a speedy recovery and that will be that, we've got some decent options still in the middle even though I don't really care much for Shelvey, but we know Diame and Ki are more than capable especially with Almiron coming into the fold and taking the pressure off.

Hopefully he'll be back raring to go for pre-season and even stronger for the start of next season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: mouldy_uk on Thursday 7 March 2019, 08:30:24 pm
We’re not allowed nice things are we :(
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four months
Post by: La Parka on Thursday 7 March 2019, 08:36:06 pm
Hope he comes back strong. Chance he may have missed his chance. Unlucky as f***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: duo on Saturday 9 March 2019, 09:57:44 am
He's been key to making the formation work.  Wonder if Rafa will change the formation now as for me Diame isn't a like for like - gutting
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Yorkie on Saturday 9 March 2019, 12:49:06 pm
He's been key to making the formation work.  Wonder if Rafa will change the formation now as for me Diame isn't a like for like - gutting

Wouldn't say I agree with that. He's just been the fairly typical centre-mid all-rounder you see in virtually all formations. He'll be a loss, because he's played well, but probably the most 'expendable' cos we've got natural replacements of a similar standard. Ki's the most obvious but it'll probably be Diame, which is fine, cos there'll be a physical scrap in the middle today.

Gonna be tough, everyone will have to be on their game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: papo on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 12:38:33 pm
Rice won his first call-up for the senior England squad.

Wonder if Sean didn't get injured would he get one now? Or is it just the hype around Rice?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Lenny on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 12:53:34 pm
Hasn't Rice been playing well all season?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 04:13:52 pm
Probably Rice would have shaded it this time, early days though. Henderson, Dier and Delph are all fairly pointless.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 07:01:16 pm
Probably Rice would have shaded it this time, early days though. Henderson, Dier and Delph are all fairly pointless.

Totally agree with that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 13 March 2019, 07:55:38 pm
Always liked Rice - Cannonball was a cracking tune
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: LV on Thursday 14 March 2019, 08:28:10 am
Always liked Rice - Cannonball was a cracking tune

She had a lovely bum too
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 6 April 2019, 05:25:31 pm
Come home sweet prince.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: toon25 on Saturday 6 April 2019, 07:39:04 pm
Was absolutely integral to us. Miss him massively.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 6 April 2019, 09:30:37 pm
He is playing his first season at this level and honestly players like KI and Diame look like such a downgrade on him, can't wait to have him back.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 6 April 2019, 09:50:46 pm
He's not coming back this season.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 6 April 2019, 11:58:08 pm
He's not coming back this season.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sean-longstaff-injury-newcastle-united-16077651

Wouldn’t make sense to bring him back now unless he were 100%. Keep him on ice and get him ready for the start of next season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: La Parka on Sunday 7 April 2019, 08:02:11 am
We went to s*** without him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Shearergol on Sunday 7 April 2019, 04:25:54 pm
We went to s*** without him.

Correct. He’s our best midfielder. Thanks Mike.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: toon25 on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:19:52 pm
Our CM options are absolutely chronic like. This guy is head and shoulders above anything we’ve had since Cabaye (albeit they’re totally different players)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Toon on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:22:24 pm
His emergence is the only redeeming thing in another miserable s*** fight of a wasted season, and if we hadn't had injuries I'm not sure Rafa would have ever picked him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: chopey on Sunday 7 April 2019, 06:30:16 pm
His emergence is the only redeeming thing in another miserable s*** fight of a wasted season, and if we hadn't had injuries I'm not sure Rafa would have ever picked him.

Aye, we exist as a team to purely survive in the league, I will not pay £600 for the privilege anymore, which means the Liverpool game is my last for a long time.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kanji on Sunday 7 April 2019, 08:39:44 pm
Had he stayed fit I think we’d be safe by now. IMO.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 7 April 2019, 11:30:27 pm
How did we get to a situation where we have five centre midfielders with about 200 caps between them, and we seem lost without the one who has played less than ten premier league matches?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Ian W on Sunday 7 April 2019, 11:34:58 pm
How did we get to a situation where we have five centre midfielders with about 200 caps between them, and we seem lost without the one who has played less than ten premier league matches?

Because the other ones are average at best.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Benwell Lad on Monday 8 April 2019, 09:17:38 am
Had he stayed fit I think we’d be safe by now. IMO.

If Kenedy had struck his penalty properly against Cardiff, rather than f***ing about, we'd be safe now.
Fine margins  :)
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kanji on Monday 8 April 2019, 12:29:40 pm
Ha true
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 01:18:42 pm
Why do i keep hearing from people that Rafa somehow stumbled upon this kid cos we had an injury crisis?  Longstaff clearly stated in one of his interviews that he went to see Rafa about getting a loan move at the start of the season and Rafa said he was going nowhere as he was going to need him. 
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Monday 8 April 2019, 01:40:12 pm
Because he didn't get a chance until there were no other choices left?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 03:38:48 pm
The point was that Rafa obviously thought he could do a job for him.  He was on the bench for about 5 games before we had an injury crisis.  He was being eased in.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Ian W on Monday 8 April 2019, 04:23:53 pm
I mean, he can rate Longstaff and also prefer a more experienced player in most games. They aren't mutually exclusive. If a manager likes a young player he doesn't necessarily chuck them straight in every game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Monday 8 April 2019, 05:18:06 pm
I mean, he can rate Longstaff and also prefer a more experienced player in most games. They aren't mutually exclusive. If a manager likes a young player he doesn't necessarily chuck them straight in every game.
👍

That’s it like.  Also, i think Rafa likes to show his more senior players a good amount of respect and doesn’t just dump them for a rookie if they’ve had a couple of bad games.  Players will appreciate things like that i’d imagine.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 09:04:12 am
I think it's pretty clear from Rafas choices and interviews about Longstaff that if we hadn't had injuries he would still not been given more than a few minutes at the tail end of games where his introduction would have little to no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe he would get a chance once PL status had been confirmed. It doesn't matter if he rates Longstaff or not as long as he doesn't give him an opportunity.

While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: James on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 11:53:08 am
We can expect to use 2-3 players in each position per season so the stage was inevitably set for Longstaff to make an appearance at some point.

We can never have a youngster who is completely guaranteed a certain number of games, they have to take the opportunities that are afforded.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 05:58:02 pm
why does it matter if he stumbled upon him or not? when he finally was called upon he looked one of our best CMs on the books.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 06:05:00 pm
I think it's pretty clear from Rafas choices and interviews about Longstaff that if we hadn't had injuries he would still not been given more than a few minutes at the tail end of games where his introduction would have little to no effect on the outcome of the game. Maybe he would get a chance once PL status had been confirmed. It doesn't matter if he rates Longstaff or not as long as he doesn't give him an opportunity.

While senior players might appreciate being selected based on seniority, it will be equally frustrating for younger players who see every day in training that they are on par or better than their peers and not get an opportunity. Key is a balance between the two, but in this age of top league football, nurturing unproven talent is a risk the vast majority of managers, Rafa included, are not prepared to take unless it is blatantly obvious that they have a special player on their hands.

Are you suggesting Rafa’s handling of Longstaff was wrong?  I’d say judging by the lad’s performances he got it bang on.  Yes i i would’ve been great if he’d come into the side earlier and played brilliantly but you can’t guarantee that would’ve happened.  Longstaff came into the side without a senior player breathing down his neck and appeared to play with a freedom that he might not have had in a different situation.   
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 9 April 2019, 06:43:18 pm
He didn't get it bang on because it wasn't planned. Rafa didn't really do anything wrong, but you can't say he did something good either. He didnt have anyone else to throw in so -had- to rely on a youth player. I am very certain that if we had a fringe senior player fit to play he would have gotten the nod over Longstaff at the time.

It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Andymc1 on Wednesday 10 April 2019, 01:25:26 am
He was in Shark Bar watching the champions league tonight.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Wednesday 10 April 2019, 05:36:09 am
He didn't get it bang on because it wasn't planned. Rafa didn't really do anything wrong, but you can't say he did something good either. He didnt have anyone else to throw in so -had- to rely on a youth player. I am very certain that if we had a fringe senior player fit to play he would have gotten the nod over Longstaff at the time.

It's not meant as critisism of Rafa as much as it is for player development in general these days. Too much on the line for managers (especially the calulated ones such as Rafa) to gamble on someone unproven.

You mean someone like Saivet or Colback? Both players with tons more experience but got sent out on loan instead of Longstaff, even though Longstaff approached Rafa asking for a loan move. 

I agree with your 2nd paragraph about youth players in general, i just don’t think it particularly applies in this case as it’s fairly obvious Rafa knew there was a good chance he would be ready at some point this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Dinho lad on Thursday 11 April 2019, 12:19:57 pm
why does it matter if he stumbled upon him or not? when he finally was called upon he looked one of our best CMs on the books.

He didn't. Longstaff featured in pre-season and Rafa managed him excellently having realised his potential (probably from last season too) by giving him the odd appearance here and there - hence why he then slotted into the side seamlessly. IMO, Rafa is also to be credited there. 
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 12:49:56 pm
The odd appearance? He didn't play until 26th of December when he got 17 minutes at the end of a 4-0 trashing by Liverpool where there was 0 risk of putting him in.

After that he was out of the squad the next game, and was only put in again because of injuries/internationals not being available.

Benitez said after the Burnley match that Longstaff was lucky because he got his chance "sooner rather than later because of injuries". To me that indicates that he was not in the plans to be used until there was nothing left to fight over in the league - which may never have been the case if we were still in a relegation fight.

Credit to Longstaff for taking his chance, and credit to Benitez for keeping him in the side when the easy choice many other managers would have made was to give the spot back to more experienced players. To give Benitez credit for giving Longstaff an opportunity however I don't see how you can justify.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:00:29 pm
Put it simple. Would Longstaff get his chance to shine if we didn’t have injury crisis? And in that case, what would happen to Sean?

What Rafa should be credited is his instructions given to Sean which helps him to settle down ASAP. However in terms of “planning for development”, no, I am with Conjo.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Rich on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:13:10 pm
Actively stopped him going back on loan and moved him to train with the first team, meaning when an opportunity came he was primed and ready for it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:14:04 pm
What point are people trying to make man lol
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Rich on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:14:30 pm
Rafa is not God.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Disco on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:16:42 pm
I heard he, Rafa - if that is his real name, wouldn't put him on the bench until he renounced steak bakes in favour of carne empanadas.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:24:10 pm
Actively stopped him going back on loan and moved him to train with the first team, meaning when an opportunity came he was primed and ready for it.

You could argue that actively stopping him going back on loan, in the event that his opportunity didn't come, was also a gamble and it could just as well have been counter productive to his development.

Rafa is irreplaceable for us at the moment. Rafa does enough good that deserves praise. He doesn't need credit for stuff that turned out well down to coincidence and a good player.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:31:57 pm
At what point does coincidence become evidence? He's done it enough times now for it to not be coincidence.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:35:41 pm
What other times are you talking about?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 11 April 2019, 02:46:13 pm
His entire philosophy is centred around improving players, so suggesting that he stumbled upon Longstaff contradicts that really when we already know that he knows all of the players at all levels at NUFC. It might have been a gamble, but what isn't when bringing new players in?

If you want examples of other players - Lascelles, Dummett, Diame, Hayden, Perez, Rondon have all improved immeasurably under Rafa.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:08:06 pm
Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make, so apologies up front if that's the case, but:

Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez

I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.

I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.

I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Zero on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:14:00 pm
I believe there is a difference between “making players performing well under his system” and “improving players”.

Whilst many people here believe it’s the latter, most of my Liverpool friends hold the view that it should be former.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:20:51 pm
Maybe I don't understand the point you're trying to make, so apologies up front if that's the case, but:

Lascelles - Was a young player that got a chance due to injuries/suspesions similar to Longstaff
Dummett - Already a first team player
Diame - Bought by Benitez
Hayden - Bought by Benitez
Perez - Already a first team player
Rondon - Loaned by Benitez

I fail to see how Benitez has done anything more than getting lucky that Longstaff took his chance when it coincidentally presented itself.

I'm not saying Benitez was unaware of Longstaff, as evidenced by him being on the bench for a few matches before he was subbed in at the end of December against Liverpool, but it is clear that he didn't think he was good enough to start, and was prioritized a head of others on the bench as well.

I agree that Benitez is a good coach that improves/gets the best out of his players, that's not my point at all and not what I'm contesting.

You could just as easily argue that it was only a coincidence that other players were out at the same time as Longstaff was ready if you're going down the speculative route. Particularly as the only evidence we have is that Rafa had brought him into the first team when there were still other experienced midfielders available.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:22:57 pm
I don't think they're mutually exclusive.  He can improve players while also get them playing well in his system
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:26:39 pm
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?

As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 11 April 2019, 03:49:14 pm
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?

As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.

But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: nemtizz on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:00:20 pm
Wasn't he also given a new contract before he started featuring regularly?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:50:57 pm
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?

As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.

But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.

Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.

If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kid Icarus on Thursday 11 April 2019, 04:54:57 pm
Besides Colback which he fell out with and Saivet that none of our managers have ever rated, what other more experienced central midfielders was he favored ahead of before the Blackburn/Chelsea matches? What makes you assume he would have gotten a chance if all of our central midfielders were fit and not on international duty?

As I said a few posts above, Benitez himself said Longstaff was lucky to get a chance due to injuries :lol: Go watch his post match interview after the Burnley match.

But you were talking about Rafa being lucky, not Longstaff. He can be lucky to get the opportunity without Rafa being lucky that it worked out. If Rafa was lucky then he was lucky in the sense that he kept him from going out on loan and put him in the first team because he saw something in him and then started him when he could have changed formation back to 4231 and brought in Kenedy, Murphy, Muto, or put Ritchie and/or Perez in midfield.

Longstaff was lucky to get a chance, and Rafa got lucky that Longstaff turned out to be our best central midfielder. Many talents have emerged due to luck, and many talents have been squandered due to bad luck.

If Rafa knew that he was our best midfielder, surely he'd be playing earlier same way as f.ex Almiron went straight into the side when he arrived.

I don't think he's our best midfielder (not based on 9 games anyway), so I'm not sure where to go from here :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Thursday 11 April 2019, 05:05:56 pm
Should have put "based on the games he did play" but that's a whole other discussion I'm not devoting time to so let's just end it on that note   :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 11 April 2019, 05:49:46 pm
Everyone got lucky. This board aswell constantly agreed with the mantra though. Plenty suggested you can't give a young striker a go ahead of Joselu because it's too big a step up.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Paully on Monday 29 April 2019, 02:56:48 pm
Class!

https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/a-great-experience-sean-longstaff-watches-magpies-game-with-fans-in-canada
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Monday 29 April 2019, 03:06:32 pm
  :aww:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Conjo on Monday 29 April 2019, 03:50:51 pm
Please come back better and hungrier and claim the midfield spot as yours next season. Only got to see 2-3 games where he played this season, but looks like he has the tools and seemingly the attitude to become something really special for this club.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Toon No9 on Tuesday 30 April 2019, 10:59:51 am
Future captain!!!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 1 May 2019, 07:03:05 pm
Please come back better and hungrier and claim the midfield spot as yours next season. Only got to see 2-3 games where he played this season, but looks like he has the tools and seemingly the attitude to become something really special for this club.

100%. He was basically one of our best players when he had that run in the team, and think we'd be a few places higher up the table had he stayed fit. Also f*** Snodgrass man!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:37:06 am
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: LV on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:38:42 am

Horseshit
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: chopey on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:40:27 am

New contract incoming..........
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:41:19 am
Not a chance Man Utd would be interested in him, and if they were after a player like him then they would go for Rice who West Ham have pretty much confirmed is for sale.
Player contract renewals are postponed until Rafa’s situation is clear, including Longstaff’s. SSN just trying to make a story out of it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: TBG on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:43:39 am
Straight swap for Pogba and Shaw or f*** off.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: La Parka on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:45:00 am
Seems those Carrick comparisons were apt.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:45:02 am
I could see them going for him tbh
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: La Parka on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:48:58 am
:( It's like Haman all over again.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 17 May 2019, 10:52:26 am
So that's every midfielder other than Ki going.

Welcome back, Jack!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:04:24 am
I could see them going for him tbh

same here, solksjaer copying fergie style getting young players from PL clubs before they get mint

they could do with rice as well probably but the comparisons are lazy they're f*** all alike...longstaff more like a pobga replacement on the ball who will graft as well

hope he stays forever with rafa, goes without saying
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:04:47 am
I could see them going for him tbh

Aye wouldn’t be surprised if they had Carrick watch him.

If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.

Would prefer them to go for media perception though :'(
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:06:31 am
If they scouted both Rice and Longstaff I would go for Longstaff too far better all round skill set.

rice and longstaff would be an outstanding midfield pair imo
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: dtd on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:07:53 am
If he does go, can we make sure we get a hefty sell-on clause for when he moves to Barcelona in 3 years time for £80 million.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: John P on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:08:59 am
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:09:08 am
Ki to be a one-man midfield dynamo next season by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:12:05 am
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.

if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Wilson on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:12:28 am
Anyone else bored of the summer break yet?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: John P on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:13:18 am
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.

if rafa f***s off i'd like to think he'd do the same for the good of his career, whoever the next pardew is could see him disappear from existence

Aye, this is on the assumption that Rafa might stay. If Rafa goes I wouldn't begrudge anyone wanting to leave tbh.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Minhosa on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:24:20 am
I can see them wanting him 100%. He's exactly what they need imho.

Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.

I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Heake on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:34:35 am
I can see them wanting him 100%. He's exactly what they need imho.

Carrick link being no coincidence it seems.

I hate to say it, but this has Carroll written all over it, in terms of huge profit for absolutely minimal investment. If they offered north of £20m Mike would get the chopper fired up within 3 milliseconds.

This.

Fat blokes denim baggies will be flapping like f*** when he gets wind of it
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Andymc1 on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:46:21 am
I don't reckon he'd go there. He's a local lad, loves the club, only been in the team a few months and seems very sensible. Last thing he needs is to go and sit on the Man Utd bench. They're not exactly a massively attractive proposition at the minute either.

 :lol: See: Carroll, A. Hate to break it to you but there's absolutely no loyalty in the game.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: James on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:56:32 am
Think there are legs in this one Fergie would like him and would have no hesitation in recommending him even after so few games.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: xLiaaamx on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:00:57 pm
It's clearly planted on our side so we can say "Well we didn't buy anyone but we did manage to hold onto Longstaff so it's a good window."
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: LV on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:22:57 pm
The kid’s not even back from injury yet. Why would anyone buy him now when he might not come back the same player?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Ikon on Friday 17 May 2019, 12:40:26 pm
Calm down girls!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Dokko on Friday 17 May 2019, 01:23:25 pm
He lives round the corner from me, he's a proper local lad from all accounts and wouldn't want to move away at this stage of his career. But money talks and 8f we don't offer a decent deal for him to stay then who knows. Saying that, manure are s***. Should be aiming higher.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Friday 17 May 2019, 01:58:34 pm
We need to put a massive release clause in his contract.  Something north of £100m.  That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: triggs on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:01:31 pm
We need to put a massive release clause in his contract.  Something north of £100m.  That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
Or just not put one in at all
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Gallowgate End on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:02:51 pm
Imagine the embarrassment it would give them if he turned them down like Shearer :bluestar:

It would lead them to sing about another Geordie for 50 years :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: nufcjb on Friday 17 May 2019, 02:03:16 pm
We need to put a massive release clause in his contract.  Something north of £100m.  That way if he goes we have enough funds to improve our squad.
Naahh. Would probably just get £20m for signings and another £10m for wages to cover the contract period of the signings. The rest of the money is Fat Mike's.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Sean on Friday 17 May 2019, 05:03:29 pm
It's clearly planted on our side so we can say "Well we didn't buy anyone but we did manage to hold onto Longstaff so it's a good window."

This. Its just so f***ing transparent at this point too  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:15:27 pm
Anyone else bored of the summer break yet?

Yep.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 17 May 2019, 07:21:46 pm
Longy will turn out to be a Busquets type player, am not saying he is going to be that good, but similar styles.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: OCK on Friday 17 May 2019, 11:34:00 pm
So that's every midfielder other than Ki going.

Welcome back, Jack!

Don't call it a Colback
I've been here for years
I'm rocking my peers
Puttin' suckers in fear
Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: taxfree on Saturday 18 May 2019, 05:26:56 am
Not worried. He's staying.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: covmag on Saturday 18 May 2019, 06:44:47 am
If Rafa goes we may as well sell the f***ing lot of them.
This lad included
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Cronky on Saturday 18 May 2019, 08:02:18 am
It's heartening to know that our high opinion of his lad is justified, with these top 6 clubs beginning to circle.

From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.

But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: 1964 on Saturday 18 May 2019, 08:07:05 am
Imagine this time last year thinking we'd be debating whether he will leave for Man Utd!  What a great 3 months he has had......
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 09:39:44 am
It's heartening to know that our high opinion of his lad is justified, with these top 6 clubs beginning to circle.

From Longstaff's point of view, there's no point in him leaving now in order to be a squad player at Man U or Spurs. Those clubs are trying to grab him, from the long-term viewpoint.

But it looks like we've only got a year or two to convince him that his career can kick on by staying put.

If Rafa leaves he'll be better fighting for a 1st team spot at somebody like them, with the luxury of protecting him from over-exposure, than staying here and taking responsibility for keeping us at 17th.

A move to Man U would be very similar to Carrick's move to Spurs, I don't think he ever regretted that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Greg on Sunday 19 May 2019, 09:45:13 am
It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 11:39:28 am
It would be nothing like Carrick to Spurs, Carrick had played four full seasons and over 150 games at West Ham at left after a season in the second tier.

I'm speaking about the decision to be made, in relation to his future. I did think the first paragraph was enough to clarify, but just in case I quoted the exact comment which I was replying to.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Greg on Sunday 19 May 2019, 12:04:30 pm
I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: sadnesstan on Sunday 19 May 2019, 03:34:24 pm
I still don't think that it is particularly similar decision, Carrick was established and undoubtedly ready to step up. Longstaff has played fewer than 15 games for us. As great as he was in that short spell this season, he's still got a lot to do here to fully establish himself. I think he'll be fine as he seems so composed and calm but he's still at a fundamentally different point in his career than Carrick was when he went to Spurs and the decision he may or may not have to make is therefore fundamentally different.

Established or not, the question is whether Longstaff is ready to step up. And I have no doubt he'll do fine, under Rafa, who will develop him properly, but I was talking about if Rafa left. We'd likely get some halfwit who expects Longstaff to dominate midfield for 38 games, in a team battling relegation, simply based on the fact that Man U waned him, so he must be quality.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: sbnufc on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 12:49:19 am
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Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:01:03 am
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Absolute bullshit
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:09:35 am
I think this is bollocks, but the biggest bollocks is people mentioning the 2.25M valuation on transfermarkt. He'll be worth Phil Jones money already, which makes it all the more unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: ElDiablo on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:17:38 am
Get to absolute f***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:36:46 am
Two rich clubs, one with no need to sell the best young talent they have who doesn't want to leave. The other club is floundering with a bad manager but bags of cash.

For us to sell it would take more than the Carroll fee.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:52:37 am
I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.

Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:43:56 am
I'd sell him, Rafa has made Diame, Hayden and Longstaff now look really good in that position. I'm confident Rafa can make any average centre half or centre mid look like a 20m+ player.

Next year under Hughes I don't think Longstaff will do much.

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:02:25 am
With Schar and Lejeune playing diagonals out from the back, Matt Ritchie hitting way more crosses than anyone else in the league, and Perez our #10 also leading the league by miles in tackles and interceptions, perhaps our midfielders aren't that overworked.

Love the Hughes comment.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:04:49 am
I think the way Rafa plays definitely makes some individuals look better than they are mind. He had a great run in the team but if we got a big fee for him, I could easily see Benítez signing someone who could do the same job and role equally as effective to go towards areas of the team where you do need a bit more ability.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: STM on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:10:48 am
You mean, Rafas a good manager?

His centre halves will always look good as there is 2 centre mids sitting in front and the full backs aren't 25 yards up the pitch.

On the other hand, Rafa's attacking players sometimes seem isolated.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Zero on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 09:23:40 am
It’s because Longstaff only played 15 games that we would ask around 20-30m. If he has played the whole season we would ask for sth close to 50m

That’s why I think it’s legit, especially considering West Ham is asking 60m for Rice
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:30:08 am
We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.

He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff - out for four (or one to two) months
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 10:59:11 am
We should only really be selling s*** players, not the ones who we can build a team around. Sick of ashley’s short term NUFC.

He’s one of our own, keep him for any price.
all depends on if him, if he wants to go it will be hard to keep him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:46:45 pm
Talk of a £20 million bid now.

This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.

I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.

When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: AlanSkärare on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:48:14 pm
Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:51:19 pm
Absolutely no reason to sell him whatsoever.

I really hope so.

Got such a good head on his shoulders too. Future captain material for goodness sake.

This interest from Man U is really irritating and forced to me. You just know if he struggles a bit they'll discard him in a heart beat and go and buy the next new thing. Urgh.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:54:41 pm
Talk of a £20 million bid now.

This is so weird and annoying from Man United man. Lazy gits.

I know he's hardly even played, but I find that price unaaceptable.

When you consider he is English, and actually from Newcastle the guy should not be allowed to leave for anything less than £35 million if at all! Idiots.

£40m plus a hefty sell-on fee/additional clauses based on apps, trophies, international caps, etc. Personally wouldn’t sell him but could see that sort of offer being difficult to refuse.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 01:57:08 pm
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mighty__mag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:01:58 pm
Solskjaer will be taking advice from someone, he's not been back in the game long and they are interested in future prospects,  Longstaff, James etc. Wouldn't Surprise me if its Fergie. I still think theres a lot more to this.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: huss9 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:02:45 pm
they're spunking £15m (allegedly) on a champo winger.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:06:58 pm
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Heake on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:22:58 pm
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Big Mike lining up the chasers as we speak
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:25:11 pm
Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Rich on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:29:46 pm
:harry:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:32:19 pm
?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:35:30 pm
If it's so easy to find better why don't Man United do it themselves?

Plus he's exactly the sort a team should do everything to hold onto. A player that is local and has come through the your development team.

Would be shame IMO.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:38:39 pm
I agree it'd be a shame but 30-40 million is Tielemans money. I guess it would depend on how highly you rate him off the back of half a season...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:43:56 pm
If he starts and he has a good season he’ll be worth 60m in the space of 12 months.

Daft to even consider selling at this point.

Between Gayle, Hayden, Perez, Shelvey and potentially Longstaff as well there’s about 100m+ in sales there this summer if Rafa wanted.

But potentially all of those would cost significantly more to replace..
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: SteV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:44:20 pm
Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.

Could we? Without wanting to sound a bit 'Ashley', Longstaff will be on buttons in PL wage terms, any 30m replacement would demand at least 50Kp/w, probably more, so you have to take that into account.

Here's at list of some of the midfielders that joined PL clubs last season for between (roughly) 15 - 25m:

Torreira
Traore
Shaqiri
Lerma
Maddison
Jota
Seri

I wouldn't swap him for many of them.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:46:39 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 02:54:32 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.

aye be f***ing madness to sell him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:05:22 pm
It is weird to think Man Utd would want to pay a lot for an almost 22-year old with 9 top flight appearances, but then you realize they have no footballing leadership at the club right now. Just another example of how far astray they are from 8-10 years ago
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:12:05 pm
:lol: People talking about this like we're a normal football club who would simply reinvest the money and build a better squad.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:12:34 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.

aye be f***ing madness to sell him

At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?

Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:17:02 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.

aye be f***ing madness to sell him

At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?

Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.

didn't maddison go for £24m or something having never played top flight football?

i'd want between £30-40m to even consider it personally, and if rafa doesn't want it then it shouldn't happen anyways whatever the price
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: thomas on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:17:33 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.

aye be f***ing madness to sell him

At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?

Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:23:40 pm
Also, what are we going to do with the money? Spend it on footballers? I can’t see that being allowed.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:24:59 pm
Still waiting on us replacing The Sirop King permanently.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:25:43 pm
He's played 9 games.  Talking about 30-50m is nonsense.  Howay lads, get real.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:34:10 pm
He's played 9 games.  Talking about 30-50m is nonsense.  Howay lads, get real.

It’s a nuts market and we don’t want to sell, why not?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:40:33 pm
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Really Froggy?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Boo Boy on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:41:04 pm
fortunately nufc don't sell their best players. never have done never will do :whistle:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Chris_R on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:56:00 pm
:lol: People talking about this like we're a normal football club who would simply reinvest the money and build a better squad.

This.

Remember when we sold Cabaye for £20m and speculated about how we'd reinvest the money? :lol:

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ikon on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 03:57:10 pm
20m is f*** all really. Rather keep him. 'Could' be worth three times that after next season if Rafa stays. Hayden has improved very much and Longstaff's potential level is much higher.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: marki on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:19:24 pm
worst case scenario ..rafa leaves ,longstaff is promptly sold..keep both and we may well have turned the corner
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: McCormick on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:31:53 pm
Would be mad to sell him and a real statement of how s*** we really are.

aye be f***ing madness to sell him

At any price? How much is the minimum you'd sell him for? Not trying to be obstinate here but the guy has had, what, 10 games of top-flight football?

Fwiw I really like him as a player, I just think we'd be mad to not consider selling him for over 30 million.
It's not about raw numbers but the abdication of hope that such a move represents. Being unable or unwilling to hold on to the rare good talent that comes from an Academy like ours - whether or not it should be a rare thing is another conversation - is perfectly in line with the Ashley protocol.

I agree with the sentiment but the reality is if we can improve the team by selling an overvalued asset it's a sensible thing to do imo. This is obviously in some eggs in moonshine world where we would use all the money to actually improve the playing squad...

:lol: Hope?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mr Logic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:37:18 pm
Utter madness to sell. We're close to having the spine of a pretty decent side, and with a few additions this summer we could kick on a bit and prove it.

(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 04:54:12 pm
Still kills me that when talking about a 22-year old it’s basically assumed they’ve already got a proverbial foot in the footballing grave.

The one-club player is such a rarity these days that even an 18-year old with promise is extremely unlikely to give your club more than a handful of seasons.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:08:12 pm
We would be stupid to accept such a low offer.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: taxfree on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:10:13 pm
Although he's looked great for the most part, it's his first season in the top-flight and he'll be 22 soon. Romanticism aside (local lad etc.), for anything close to 30 million we'd be stupid not to sell him; for our current situation we could find a better player for that kind of money relatively easily.

Stuff like this man..

How, after years of Mike Ashley, can you argue like this?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Shelvey's Hair on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:22:46 pm
A young English, 2 footed passing centre midfielder with a decent long distance shot on him.. we'd be mental to sell him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:26:29 pm
if man utd are interested and we have no financial necessity to sell (which we don't), a normal club would realise they're after him for a reason
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:29:37 pm
If the interest is real then Ashley will be desperate to sign Rafa to a new deal just so he can f*** him over on Day 1 by selling him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:42:51 pm
A young English, 2 footed passing centre midfielder, with a decent long distance shot on him.. we'd be mental to sell him.

We’ll probably get offered Mctonimay in return who couldn’t even dream of what Longstaff can do with a football off either foot :hmm:

Same skill set apparently :idiot2:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 05:45:01 pm
Tell them f*** off and have done with it, ffs.

He’ll be warming the bench for them for a while anyway unless they can shift the s**** there already.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:09:33 pm
Utter madness to sell. We're close to having the spine of a pretty decent side, and with a few additions this summer we could kick on a bit and prove it.

(It will all be laying in bits a few weeks hence, won't it. :D )

Kick on to where? 10th 7th 11th? Means nowt really. We will be a safe as houses or relegated. Unless a multi billionaire wants to invest the top 5 ish will be very tough to break unless it's a fluke
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:10:27 pm
Bit like an Everton.which is Rafas plan
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:28:30 pm
Yes, it's only 9 games, but in those 9 games he's more than held his own against top opponents.

He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Wednesday 22 May 2019, 06:48:03 pm
£30million PLUS Scott Mc basic version is probably the best we can hope for in this situation :thup:

Or even better they bugger off.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Stottie on Thursday 23 May 2019, 02:59:11 am
I think he's worth Phil Jones plus inflation, which I guess is 30-35m. Only half as many games as Phil Jones had, but in a more demanding position. More impact in them too. Same young English premium.

As everyone says, the biggest issue is that any fee would not be reinvested in the team.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 06:06:12 am
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Really Froggy?

Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Thursday 23 May 2019, 09:57:06 am
I just do not believe Man U would be willing to spunk £20 million+ on a kid who is, let’s face it, pretty unproven and who is also not yet back from injury. I just think it’s bullshit and pure speculation.

:lol: We absolutely would spend this.

Really Froggy?

Well aye. We're spending £15m on a winger from the Championship. Some season long loan fees approach £10m these days. For a young Englishman who's already done well in his albet short time in the league, £20m is nothing now.

I just can’t see it, especially as he’s not even back from injury. What if he’s not the player he was?

Well we’ll see eh? Maybe I’m just remembering Man U as they used to be.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: AlanSkärare on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:20:32 am
Yes, it's only 9 games, but in those 9 games he's more than held his own against top opponents.

He is our best young player since Gazza, and it's impossible to put a value on him now.


Carroll was tearing the whole country apart in 2010. He never reached those heights again, but he was the best young player the club has fielded in a long, long time. Longstaff could well surpass that within the next year, but not after 9 games.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:28:30 am
is carroll still under contract at west ham? :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: hakka on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:31:48 am
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.

We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:51:45 am
Getting £30m would be immense however within a year he could be double that just for being at Manure
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: James on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:57:15 am
I believe Fergie has said sign him to replace Carrick which is why Man Utd are going to throw bags of cash at us.

£45m
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: James on Thursday 23 May 2019, 10:58:13 am
However the trouble is that because Longstaff is in low wages the money given to Rafa will need to cover fees and wages.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 11:02:15 am
He will go if they want him, simple as.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 11:21:50 am
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.

We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.

I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:

Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 12:40:06 pm
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.

We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.

I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:

Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.

On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 12:51:32 pm
Selling him would be mental. We are already losing Hayden. Diame, Ki and Shelvey are hardly the long term CM's we want. Diame will be off and Ki/Shelvey are not really pushing us forward by keeping them. Squad players at best them two.

We want Longstaff plus a new competent CM to pair with him next season. Selling Longstaff just means we have to buy two first team quality CM's next season which will cost a fortune.

I think demanding Mctominay coming the other way as part of the deal would have to be a must :thup:

Mctominay seems a very Rafa type player, does everything Longstaff does off the ball just not in the same planet on it which explains why Man Utd want the talent with the ball of Longstaff.

On what planet do you think we'd get rid of McTominay? :lol:

You do realise Man Utd are trying to upgrade him with someone that can do what he can do but ALSO do what Michael Carrick could with a football at his feet? :smug:

You’d have to give us that basic version of yours plus £30million.

Joking but that is the only deal I’d do I think Mctominay is very good at winning the ball back just limited with the ball compared to Longstaff.

Hopefully the board really test how far Man Utd are willing to go for Longstaff.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:25:54 pm
Much rather have Longstaff than McTominay from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:37:02 pm
so would manyoo by the looks of it
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:37:55 pm
so would manyoo by the looks of it

Well spotted :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:44:45 pm
I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:46:12 pm
so would manyoo by the looks of it

Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:55:15 pm
so would manyoo by the looks of it

Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.

At what playing 50/60 yard passes off either foot? :azn:

At having a left foot as good as his right. :azn:

At having Michael Carrick composure? :azn:

What exactly is Mctominay better at?

It certainly isn’t winning the ball back because Longstaff has that in his locker too.

Longstaff is a better all round player I even like and rate Mctominay but Longstaff has far more in his game.

I don’t think Man Utd would want Longstaff if they thought Mctominay was better than him.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Thursday 23 May 2019, 01:57:01 pm
is carroll still under contract at west ham? :lol:

Until the end of June.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 23 May 2019, 02:06:46 pm
I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.

how about you take your 25m and go buy someone else, you'll only ruin Longstaff under the mighty OGS. Longstaff under Rafa is so much better for his career.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Nobody on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:08:41 pm
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:10:29 pm
It would be stupid to sell Longstaff even from an Ashley loved money point of view, whatever Man-U bid it will have been on the back of a only a handful of games, if he maintains that form over a full season then his value only increases significantly
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Infinitely Content on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:15:11 pm
so would manyoo by the looks of it

Nah. McTominay is better, Longstaff more potential. We're looking at them two and Pogba as a midfield 3 though. Matic is done.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:20:28 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 23 May 2019, 03:51:15 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.

 :lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.

Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: nemtizz on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:00:30 pm
McTominay is garbage.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:08:28 pm
wouldn't be surprised to never hear of mctominay again once they get a proper manager
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:11:32 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.

Why Sessengon, he’s really over hyped.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Minhosa on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:39:58 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.

 :lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.

Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.

I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 04:56:38 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.

 :lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.

Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.

I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.

 :thup:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gallowgate End on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:01:49 pm
McTominay is garbage.

Very good ball winner.

He’d get even better at his position with the team shape drills of Rafa Benitez that has been so well coached into Longstaff.

£30million plus Mctominay or no deal :nope:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ikon on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:15:13 pm
Stop spouting.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:20:56 pm
I would guess we'll go to around £25m and I'd be shocked if you didn't accept that.

If he was some kid we'd previously bought from France I'd probably agree.

The fact he is a local kid and has come through the youth setup makes that fee a complete non starter.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Thursday 23 May 2019, 05:25:55 pm
Manure are in terminal decline. Think them going for players like longstaff and the lads from Swansea show how far they've fallen. Must be quite tragic for their customers.

If anything they should be breaking the bank for Rice and Sessengon.

 :lol: It's absolutely hilarious that these are the standard of players Man United are going for/would look to transform their fortunes.

Longstaff, James, Rice, Sessegnon while good players are only good British players and as much as you can rate them, they're hardly going to help improve their current plight IMO. Signing those types of players (British, potential - see Zaha, Young, Smalling, Jones) has hardly worked for them in the past.

I think Longstaff would revolutionise their system tbqh. He'd sit and find people all day long. Completely freeing up Pogba.
He's played 9 premier League games...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Friday 24 May 2019, 07:24:58 am
Players like Longstaff are often under-rated in terms of their value. He can play that defensive role in CM, but can also get the ball moving forward quickly and accurately. I always think that players in his position see a lot of the ball, and if they can use the ball as well as win it, that makes a big difference to how the rest of the team functions.

To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: HawK on Friday 24 May 2019, 07:32:50 am
Players like Longstaff are often under-rated in terms of their value. He can play that defensive role in CM, but can also get the ball moving forward quickly and accurately. I always think that players in his position see a lot of the ball, and if they can use the ball as well as win it, that makes a big difference to how the rest of the team functions.

To be honest, whenever I don my anorak and try to think up my all-time Newcastle XI, I get a bit stuck trying to think of an anchor man in midfield who can also pass well. I don't think we've ever had a player with Longstaff's skill set. And I'm reluctant to talk about 'potential' because I think he's already arrived.



Hamann was the best in my memory, before he spouted 'oohh i'm homesick', before moving to f***ing Liverpool.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NobbyOhNobby on Friday 24 May 2019, 08:05:12 am
He's played 9 premier League games...
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mickthemagpie on Friday 24 May 2019, 08:23:43 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:06:25 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.

McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:10:37 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.

McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here realize Longstaff is better.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Friday 24 May 2019, 09:12:29 am
All I'm saying is, don't get carried away. :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Collage on Friday 24 May 2019, 10:59:45 am
Croak croak
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ohmelads on Friday 24 May 2019, 11:38:49 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.

McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.

Too early to compare Longstaff to other youngsters because he hasn't played enough games and they play at opposite ends of the table, but he deserves the praise he's getting. Made his first competitive games in a struggling side that had won only 1 of its last 6 (against Huddersfield) and faced a tough run including Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs, Wolves. During what should have been the toughest part of our season, he played a major part in turning the season around.

Big season for him next year. Hope he comes back stronger from his injury.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Gottlob on Friday 24 May 2019, 01:19:08 pm
I'd rather sell Longstaff for £25 million without McTominay than for £30 million with.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 24 May 2019, 02:14:25 pm
Well that’s just silly.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 24 May 2019, 02:46:54 pm
This thread is pure ass now
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordie john on Friday 24 May 2019, 03:01:08 pm
I'll sell you Longstaff for £25m, Shelvey for £18m and Gayle for £15m as long as I can buy Rondon for £16.5m and you give me Trafalgar Square plus Fleet Street for £300. Oh, and while we're dreaming........
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Friday 24 May 2019, 03:18:56 pm
I'll sell you Longstaff for £25m, Shelvey for £18m and Gayle for £15m as long as I can buy Rondon for £16.5m and you give me Trafalgar Square plus Fleet Street for £300. Oh, and while we're dreaming........

Mackems have already won Trafalgar Square I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Dokko on Friday 24 May 2019, 04:39:20 pm
Lad has played 9 games and worth more than the mackems.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Sima on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:35:52 am
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.

Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordie john on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:40:12 am
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.

Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.

I increasingly get the feeling that nothing matters. Sell 'em all, for what impact it will have. Crash and burn approaches?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:40:13 am
Would f***ing hate to lose Longstaff now like. Would need to be ridiculous money (£40-50m) for it to even feel remotely fine.

Who cares what we sell him for, the money won't get reinvested either way.
How many times does this have to be said before it sinks in?  I’d rather we lost him because of a £2m release clause than sell him for £40m and Ashley trouser the lot.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: David Edgar on Saturday 25 May 2019, 10:57:07 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.

McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.

This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 May 2019, 11:19:17 am
Arguably better than Lionel Messi was Scotty. Saw it in a Froggy post right there.

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 25 May 2019, 11:20:19 am
He's played 9 premier League games...

True but he was arguably the best player on the pitch for several of those games.

McTominay was arguably the best player on the pitch against Barcelona (first game) and definitely the best player on the pitch against PSG yet people on here are suggesting Longstaff is better.

This reminds me of when Hayden was the best player on the pitch against Man City.

I know this is to make a point but I still want to argue Longstaff was better :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Froggy on Monday 27 May 2019, 08:02:17 pm
Arguably better than Lionel Messi was Scotty. Saw it in a Froggy post right there.



Messi was s**** in the first leg.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: oldtype on Monday 27 May 2019, 09:15:47 pm
Who is this person
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Mr Logic on Monday 27 May 2019, 09:54:35 pm
Who is this person

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7WDRDn4mtA
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Monday 27 May 2019, 10:41:51 pm
I love the cross for Rondons diving header. Couldn't have hit it any more perfect.

Most times when I read about young players that "play maturely" I always get suspicious that they are most likely just a bit s***. They do the easy things because they can't do the hard stuff (playing safe, playing maturely), while looking tidy and doing some running around  (prime example being Cack Jogback, but a more recent example to me at least is Tom Davies at Everton). Longstaff though just has that maturety but also the confidence and ability to do the hard stuff when it makes sense. He's also got a good frame/build for a central midfielder and is more athletic than I first thought. I just can't wait to see him on the field next season.  :smitten:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 01:44:10 am
Paired next to Saul as we make our assault for the title
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Anderson on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 01:52:35 am

:lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ikon on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 05:59:50 am
Actually quite funny :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: CPL on Tuesday 28 May 2019, 08:21:22 am
Think I am more excited to see more of Longstaff than Almiron for next season.

Such a tidy classy player, that video didn’t even show the penalty he won against Man City but great video anyway. Definitely keep him at all costs, crazy that he has only played 7 games this season.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:41:30 pm
?s=19
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: triggs on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:42:06 pm
Good lad
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: taxfree on Saturday 8 June 2019, 03:47:22 pm
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/08/manchester-united-dealt-transfer-blow-pursuit-newcastle-united-star-sean-longstaff-9872806/

Quote
‘I’ve always wanted to play for Newcastle and I’ve only had a little taste of that so for me, it’s about getting fit as soon as I can and getting back on the pitch for Newcastle and making more memories of the future.’
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:14:27 pm
Good lad
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:24:20 pm
Long staff knows  O0
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: tmonkey on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:42:42 pm
Long staff knows  O0

He'll be racking up the assists with Mbappe up front. Easy through balls.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Klaus on Saturday 8 June 2019, 04:44:20 pm
Man U fans will be singing about him for the next 20 years :lol:
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:33:12 pm
Looks like Man U are coming in with a firm £25 million offer for him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: KaKa on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:39:16 pm
Hope we send someone over to them to reply with a firm kick to the bollocks.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:48:38 pm
Hope we send someone over to them to reply with a firm kick to the bollocks.

Ashley will have the transfer chopper sent over
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: The Little Waster on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:48:56 pm
Depends though ... Rafas contract runs out Ashley doesnt renew it , takeover melts into thin air and he'd be crazy not to leave
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: AlanSkärare on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:50:28 pm
Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: LV on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:51:21 pm
Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.

Will be a lot easier to not care anymore though won’t it.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sempuki on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:51:35 pm
Rafa will still have the final say until June 30th (unless they go over his head of course).
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 14 June 2019, 12:53:49 pm
Can't stand the thought of losing Longstaff, Perez, Rafa and sit with Ashley when the season starts. Yet it's a very likely scenario.

yeah but look at it from Ashley's POV for a change, try to walk a mile in the other person's shoes

-£6m p/a saved on Rafa's wages
-£1.75m gamble - getting at least x10 back for him
-£0 youth product will fetch £30m when we negotiate with them

i mean come on, give the guy a break
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: taxfree on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:18:56 pm
Bet he'll stay if Rafa stays. Ready made (and understandable, I guess) excuse if he goes and Ashley stays.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:20:17 pm
If Rafa goes there probably won’t be anyone capable of conducting a transfer, he’ll be trapped. No one knows how the fax machine works.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Disco on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:26:58 pm
Sherwood himself might still be able to do a job in there as player/manager. Good thinking by Mike to recoup some his money wasted by the manager and offload this soft c***.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:27:19 pm
This transfer would sum up the failings of both clubs involved.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Rafalove on Friday 14 June 2019, 01:52:23 pm
We would be mad to accept 25 mil, imo. There’s a chance after another season he could be worth way more.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Conjo on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:16:42 pm
25 mil. is probably the most we can fetch for him now if Rafa leaves and we don't get any reinforcements in.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ketsbaia on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:19:34 pm
This rumour is silly for a few reasons but the £25m fee would be a joke - especially when Wan Bissaka has only been playing for a year and he's valued at £60m. For a right-back!
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:22:35 pm
If Rafa leaves, what does it matter?

Highly doubtful this will happen though. More like Man Utd supporting journalists trying to unsettle the lad. Or it’s coming from the club itself which is disappointing.

25 million would be cheap for what his potential could be anyway. Another season and he would be worth double.

If the club had any sense they would offer him a new contract with more money and an in incentivised scale of increase. Give him something to work towards.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:28:14 pm
Chronicle going into overdrive with the Longstaff stories now the grotty rag that it is.

I can't see Longstaff leaving so early in his career fwiw.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:31:49 pm
If Mike Ashley was still going to be the owner I wouldn’t blame the lad if he left. It would be the sensible thing.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ToonArmy1892 on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:36:00 pm
No transfers can happen with the ongoing (hopefully) takeover right?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: ManDoon on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:41:23 pm
nee chance he goes for that money
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: marki on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:42:37 pm
nufc and sense dont go hand in hand
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Heake on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:45:14 pm
If Mike Ashley was still going to be the owner I wouldn’t blame the lad if he left. It would be the sensible thing.

dejavu with the early 80s etc
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Odin on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:51:38 pm
The papers are full of s***. There’s no new news about this yet they run headlines like “Manchester United closing in on Longstaff”

How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: sixx on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:55:24 pm
Not worried about him leaving. What I am worried about though is the fact that Solskjær and the Man United hierarchy have shown so much interest in him because I have no faith in the ability of Solskjær nor the ManU hierarchy god forbid to recognize a potentially good player.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 02:55:36 pm
The papers are full of s***. There’s no new news about this yet they run headlines like “Manchester United closing in on Longstaff”

How could they be if nothing is happening. Charnley is off with his head in a sand box somewhere, Mike is preoccupied with legal proceedings against Debenhams and Rafa has been historically quiet.

Whilst the cat's away the mouse will............... poach the most naturally talented midfielder Newcastle have produced in a generation.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: geordiedean on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:12:10 pm
If the takeover fails and Rafa leaves I'd be throwing in a transfer request if I was him
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Joe_F on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:18:09 pm
Ashley licking his lips in anticipation

?s=19

Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: STM on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:22:44 pm
Oh aye, they will make comment on that.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: chopey on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:28:47 pm
Ashley licking his lips in anticipation

?s=19

He must have been talking to someone who works part time in the club shop
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Kanji on Friday 14 June 2019, 03:37:05 pm
seriously f*** off man united
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Cronky on Friday 14 June 2019, 07:20:29 pm
I suspect the 'multiple reports' mean one report and various others copying.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:16:17 am
If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Thumbheed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:25:20 am

Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Johneddy on Saturday 15 June 2019, 12:26:10 am
If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******

What you're saying is  that our supporters will accept anything?
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: covmag on Saturday 15 June 2019, 02:33:35 am
About time we just said f*** off
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 15 June 2019, 05:47:20 am
About time we just said f*** off
"No comment"
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 15 June 2019, 11:57:58 am

Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.

We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.
Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: Thumbheed on Saturday 15 June 2019, 01:09:40 pm

Mad if we were to sell him. Would easily rank as the worst sale Ashley has made.

We haven’t made too many bad sales really. Just not enough signings.

A sale is a bad sale if it's not adequately replaced. I'd say there's been lots of players during his tenure that weren't replaced with equal or better players. From what I've seen of Longstaff, I think he's actually one of the better players we've had during Ashley's time. Factor in the fact he's local and a youth product, plus the fact we don't actually know how good he is or could be amounts to this potentially being the worst of the lot.




Title: Re: Sean Longstaff
Post by: marki on Saturday 15 June 2019, 04:12:26 pm
If Rafa doesn't stay on then I can see him leaving and Ashley manoeuvring it in a way where Longstaff is seen as the bad guy, then we'll get 50,000 turn up to cheer on Mark Hughes whilst calling Longstaff a greedy b******
  ffs come off it man ;D