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Title: Henri Saivet
Post by: lovejoy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:31:11 AM
flew in last night, according to the Times Sport.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:35:04 AM
If we're signing two centre-midfielders in the form of this guy and Shelvey, I'm happy to see they're identifying the weakest area of the side. But I've read several concerning things that infer we'd be playing this guy out of position right from the off. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ads on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:35:24 AM
Transfer news? Saivet for someone who gives a s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: lovejoy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:35:52 AM
If we're signing two centre-midfielders in the form of this guy and Shelvey, I'm happy to see they're identifying the weakest area of the side. But I've read several concerning things that infer we'd be playing this guy out of position right from the off. :lol:

ive read the opposite mind, and that he's played a lot more centre mid than out wide, english journo who covers french footy on twitter reckons he's a a player, and a centre mid one at that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LRD on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:36:00 AM
Does he play central midfield nowadays? Used to be a forward/winger type from what i remember of FM...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:39:10 AM
cant wait for some smarmy know it all to suggest we should sign Wahbi Khazri instead
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Zero on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:40:20 AM
He is a winger.

In fact, Thauvin is not a winger, his prime position is attacking midfielder.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Transfer news? Saivet for someone who gives a s***.

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:43:55 AM
Does he play central midfield nowadays? Used to be a forward/winger type from what i remember of FM...

As has been said countless times on here he plays CM and sometimes AM for the past 18 months or whatever it is. Mandoon posted his positional stats yesterday
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: St1pe on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:44:31 AM
I don't know much about Saviet but if the reports are true with him and Shelvey, a strong, athletic defensive midfielder and a driving box to box player could be exactly what we need.

It sounds too good to be true though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:44:35 AM
Signs to greetings of cautious optimism > 1 billion arguments about what his position should be > sold.

Buckle me in, it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sturla on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:45:36 AM
He is a winger.

In fact, Thauvin is not a winger, his prime position is attacking midfielder.

According to Transfermarkt.com this season he's played:
 19 times as CM
 2 times as ACM
 2 times as RM
 2 times as RW
 1 times as LW

Don't know how reliable this site is, and they only have little potition data from 14/15 for Saivet.

Haven't seen him play so I have no idea what he could bring to the team.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mozy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:46:07 AM
What type of CM is he? I'd assume box to box?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:46:23 AM
he's quick as well. sounds like What Anita would be if he didn't have the physique of a 5 year old girl
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:47:11 AM
This is him this season, stats wise at least.

(http://i.imgur.com/e9GymdM.png)

Seems his best stuff is in CM. I've no idea if he's any good like, but I reckon he primarily plays as a CM now

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Zero on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:51:00 AM
He is a winger.

In fact, Thauvin is not a winger, his prime position is attacking midfielder.

According to Transfermarkt.com this season he's played:
 19 times as CM
 2 times as ACM
 2 times as RM
 2 times as RW
 1 times as LW

Don't know how reliable this site is, and they only have little potition data from 14/15 for Saivet.

Haven't seen him play so I have no idea what he could bring to the team.

Right, thanks for the update.  My knowledge re Saivet, a few years ago, is a pacy winger or forward who loves to beat opponent with pace.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:51:02 AM
http://www.football-lineups.com/footballer/11351/
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SUPERTOON on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:51:17 AM
There's no way we are signing him and Shelvey for CM. This lad is probably the fall back for Shelvey. Or if we sign both then he will get put out wide because there is zero chance of Colback being dropped.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:52:04 AM
There's no way we are signing him and Shelvey for CM. This lad is probably the fall back for Shelvey. Or if we sign both then he will get put out wide because there is zero chance of Colback being dropped.
feel like i've already seen this post...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mozy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:54:14 AM
Whoscored reckons his best attributes are tackling, aerial strength, defensive contribution and holding onto the ball. Sounds like a Tiote replccement if you look solely at that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Leazes_End_Mag on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:55:01 AM
There's no way we are signing him and Shelvey for CM. This lad is probably the fall back for Shelvey. Or if we sign both then he will get put out wide because there is zero chance of Colback being dropped.
Tiote wants away this month apparently so Shelvey will take over from him alongside JC. Saivet will be the backup option when Gouffran departs too.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Conjo on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:01:34 AM
Probably intended to replace Sissoko so we can continue to play a pacy CM at RM if/when we sell.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:03:24 AM
Whoscored reckons his best attributes are tackling, aerial strength, defensive contribution and holding onto the ball. Sounds like a Tiote replccement if you look solely at that.

Based on the little Dennis Wise scouting I did he didn't look particularly imposing physically. Based on his wiki he's smaller than Colback too.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:07:17 AM
Whoscored reckons his best attributes are tackling, aerial strength, defensive contribution and holding onto the ball. Sounds like a Tiote replccement if you look solely at that.

Based on the little Dennis Wise scouting I did he didn't look particularly imposing physically. Based on his wiki he's smaller than Colback too.

:lol: f***ing hell
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:11:44 AM
Whoscored reckons his best attributes are tackling, aerial strength, defensive contribution and holding onto the ball. Sounds like a Tiote replccement if you look solely at that.

Based on the little Dennis Wise scouting I did he didn't look particularly imposing physically. Based on his wiki he's smaller than Colback too.

Same height aren't they?  Wiki says they're both 5 foot 9 (1.75 meters) anyway.  Difference is Saivet doesn't have the physique of a small boy.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:15:06 AM
Kante is shorter than Colback, height is irrelevant
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: STM on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:18:36 AM
How highly rated is this guy? How much are we paying for him

Literally never heard of him, other than the recent links.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:27:47 AM
He's about as useful a striker as Gouffran I know that, as a midfielder I've no idea doubt he's the solution to our many problems though
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:32:37 AM
To be fair Gouffran would have been much better used here as a striker, at least he can score goals when played their consistently, he's pointless in midfield.  Why he never got a go up front when we were playing f***ing Shola there I'll never know, then again :pardsbeard:

As far as Saivet, never seen him play but apparently he's a quick, powerful defensive midfielder and has been one of the few positives for Bordeaux this season.  Also their captain so hopefully he could be a commanding presence in central midfield.  Fee seems to be around £4.5m.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:33:21 AM
How highly rated is this guy? How much are we paying for him

Literally never heard of him, other than the recent links.

He played against us twice in the Europa a few years ago. Was highly rated as a teenager thinking back to Fm days :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: chopey on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:36:09 AM
How many captains have we bought and then still stick with Colo ?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:36:10 AM
Played CM for the last season or two. Nailed on we being him in and play him wide.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:40:56 AM
Not sure if gusta
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:42:57 AM
doesnt matter how well he's been playing. everyone knows Jack must start every game he's fit :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:43:22 AM
He's not just going to come in and be made captain obviously.  But hopefully he can show some kind of leadership in midfield (if we sign him of course) because we've got none at the moment.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ToonTastic on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:45:36 AM
Another unproven from the french leagues. My excitement is struggling to be contained.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:45:44 AM
Inside a world where Jack Colback doesn't automatically start every game for us.

What a time to be alive that would be :sweetjesus:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:54:15 AM
He'll be s***, everything we touch turns to s***.

On other hand if he's mobile, athletic and defensively sound he would be an upgrade on our centre midfield, height would be handy but able to cover the ground and tackle more important in centre mid for me - If he's remotely intelligent (Although doubtful if he wants to sign here) and tactically astute even better.

Welcome to the right wing son, bye Moussa see you at Palace in 2 years time.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:54:54 AM
Inside a world where Jack Colback doesn't automatically start every game for us.

What a time to be alive that would be :sweetjesus:

He probably will start just on left wing or left back. The Ginger Joker is here forever
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:12:03 AM
I've never seen him at left back, but heard he wasn't horrendous at Sunderland when used there. Should we be scared?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:18:47 AM
Well, I've seen this guy like twice and he looked alright to me. Not sure how he handles this next step should he officially join us but our midfield engine needs something because we sure as hell have to try something new or we're dropping.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Strengths:
Aerial duals
Tackling
Defensive contribution
Holding on to the ball (sounds like Tiote that)

Sounds promising defensively.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:25:15 AM
Yep. I would rather we signed someone experienced and proven in CM but let's face it, we're Newcastle.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:29:00 AM
Nothing we have done in central midfield has worked. Will these work? No clue but f*** sake something needs to change.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 11:31:28 AM
Nothing we have done in central midfield has worked. Will these work? No clue but f*** sake something needs to change.
We should have tried a 433 by now but for some reason he just hasn't
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: AY on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Nothing we have done in central midfield has worked. Will these work? No clue but f*** sake something needs to change.
We should have tried a 433 by now but for some reason he just hasn't

4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 the numbers really dont make that much of difference tbh. The players are not good enough.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:02:11 PM
I still don't think we'll do very well with Wijnaldum and Sissoko in their weird pseudo-positions, but a decent midfield would help.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: RobS on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:07:02 PM
My guess is:

         Mitro/Austin
Perez - Wijnaldum - Sissoko
         Shelvey - Saivet
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ally on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:17:48 PM
He'll be called a "beast" soon, as with any other big black midfielder.

Big, white midfielder like Shelvey gets s*** labels like "enforcer"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thenige on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:23:07 PM
I still don't think we'll do very well with Wijnaldum and Sissoko in their weird pseudo-positions, but a decent midfield would help.

Yeah pretty much sums up my thoughts on the current situation.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:26:06 PM
I still don't think we'll do very well with Wijnaldum and Sissoko in their weird pseudo-positions, but a decent midfield would help.
thing is I'm not convinced by either in cm either, consistently sissoko has been most effective on the right and wijnaldum has not impressed me in cm when he's moved there or started there, seemed fairly anonymous
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:28:12 PM
Only know him as FM wonderkid. Assume he's gone to s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:31:20 PM
Only know him as FM wonderkid. Assume he's gone to s***.

Likewise, looks like our scouting network have broadened their horizon's from Youtube. We'll be in for Adu next. :frantic:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: junkhead on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:37:02 PM
My only impression of Saivet is as a brainless head-down winger. Can't imagine his transition to CM being that successful.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thenige on Monday 11 January 2016, 12:38:14 PM
Have been speaking to a French guy who I work with who follows Ligue 1 very closely. He said:

Quote
Sagnol (Bordeaux manager) loves to reposition players, but IMO [Saivet] is more a winger. He lacks the aggressiveness and positioning to be an effective DM. You can clearly quickly see that he's a bit passive and there should be a reason that Sagnol is so likely to sell him. Let's hope you don't expect him to tackle too much.

SOLD!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:38:02 PM
Have been speaking to a French guy who I work with who follows Ligue 1 very closely. He said:

Quote
Sagnol (Bordeaux manager) loves to reposition players, but IMO [Saivet] is more a winger. He lacks the aggressiveness and positioning to be an effective DM. You can clearly quickly see that he's a bit passive and there should be a reason that Sagnol is so likely to sell him. Let's hope you don't expect him to tackle too much.

SOLD!

Like we don't have enough non-tackling midfielders on our books. I hope your French mate is talking s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Well, I've seen this guy like twice and he looked alright to me. Not sure how he handles this next step should he officially join us but our midfield engine needs something because we sure as hell have to try something new or we're dropping.

What sort of player did he look like to you? Has he got a bit of physical presence or will he turn out to be another number 10 wannabe?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BeloEmre on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:53:20 PM
Fee agreed according to Skysports. Hoping to announce the deal in the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: palnese on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:54:30 PM
£5 m


Breaking | Henri Saivet has reached a contract agreement with Newcastle for 5 years, according to L'Équipe.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:54:44 PM
Bet he's a shitcunt
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thenige on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:55:12 PM
Have been speaking to a French guy who I work with who follows Ligue 1 very closely. He said:

Quote
Sagnol (Bordeaux manager) loves to reposition players, but IMO [Saivet] is more a winger. He lacks the aggressiveness and positioning to be an effective DM. You can clearly quickly see that he's a bit passive and there should be a reason that Sagnol is so likely to sell him. Let's hope you don't expect him to tackle too much.

SOLD!

Like we don't have enough non-tackling midfielders on our books. I hope your French mate is talking s***.

Well he's the head French Researcher on Football Manager so knows a fair bit about the French league, but we'll see as he's not spoken to the Bordeaux researcher in a while. :D
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:55:18 PM
Stats really aren't a true barometer for anything but his tackling and stuff seems pretty decent, like. Certainly doesn't seem to be a classic 10, in that regard.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 01:59:21 PM
5 years :lol:

We hate short contracts
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Get French Football ‏@GFN_France 20m20 minutes ago

Breaking | No fee agreement yet between Newcastle & Bordeaux for Saivet. Bournemouth might try to scupper the deal, according to L'Équipe.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TK-421 on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:02:47 PM
Gazumped by Bournemouth.  :jesuswept:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:05:06 PM
Gazumped by Bournemouth.  :jesuswept:

More likely that we have pulled out if we've secured Shelvey. It always seemed unlikely that we'd be signing both.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:06:58 PM
Whoscored seem to think he likes a tackle
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:07:15 PM
Bet there will be a relegation bailout clause. :)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:11:07 PM
Bet there will be a relegation bailout clause. :)
Would hope so.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Parsley on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:13:35 PM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/henri-saivet-newcastle-premier-league-status-can-he-sai-vet/
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:15:39 PM
Bordeaux's kit in that link looks like ours :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Big Geordie on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:17:56 PM
Get French Football ‏@GFN_France 20m20 minutes ago

Breaking | No fee agreement yet between Newcastle & Bordeaux for Saivet. Bournemouth might try to scupper the deal, according to L'Équipe.

No brainer for him, surely? :D
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:21:22 PM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/henri-saivet-newcastle-premier-league-status-can-he-sai-vet/

That guy reads the game very well, his description of the Anita/Colback partnership is spot on. I really hope we get this lad now.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:23:17 PM
Have been speaking to a French guy who I work with who follows Ligue 1 very closely. He said:

Quote
Sagnol (Bordeaux manager) loves to reposition players, but IMO [Saivet] is more a winger. He lacks the aggressiveness and positioning to be an effective DM. You can clearly quickly see that he's a bit passive and there should be a reason that Sagnol is so likely to sell him. Let's hope you don't expect him to tackle too much.

SOLD!

Hmm, every other bit of info I've seen suggests he's been s*** on the wing when he's played there but taken to central and defensive midfield very well :dontknow:  Also while far from conclusive Who Scored have him rated at 6.1 when he's played attacking left wing and 7.5 in defensive midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:23:21 PM
About f***ing time we utilised the French market.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:23:57 PM
I still don't think we'll do very well with Wijnaldum and Sissoko in their weird pseudo-positions, but a decent midfield would help.
thing is I'm not convinced by either in cm either, consistently sissoko has been most effective on the right and wijnaldum has not impressed me in cm when he's moved there or started there, seemed fairly anonymous

Would Save It, Voldemort and Wijnaldum maybe work as a 3 with Perez, Mitro and Sissoko further up?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Twinport53 on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:24:59 PM
Breaking | Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol announces that Bordeaux have reached an agreement with Newcastle for the transfer of Henri Saivet.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufc4eva on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:25:14 PM
Get French Football ‏@GFN_France 20m20 minutes ago

Breaking | No fee agreement yet between Newcastle & Bordeaux for Saivet. Bournemouth might try to scupper the deal, according to L'Équipe.

No brainer for him, surely? :D

He definately should choose Bournemouth
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:26:01 PM
He's canny good...

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:26:19 PM
NUFC 360 ‏@NUFC360 4s5 seconds ago

Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol announces an agreement with Newcastle for Henri Saivet! #NUFC
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Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:26:51 PM
Breaking | Bordeaux manager Willy Sagnol announces that Bordeaux have reached an agreement with Newcastle for the transfer of Henri Saivet.

Beat me to it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: bodson on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:27:12 PM
About Saivet from a swedish journalist following Girondins Bordeaux  (Google translated):

Henri Saivet belongs to the players who have "free pass" to leave in January and now seems to Newcastle to have grasped. The 25-year-old Bordeaux player debuted in les Girondins almost eight years ago and began his time in the first team as a striker. Saivet later played on the same postion in the French U21 national team. As a senior, he has chosen to represent Senegal.

After a couple strong seasons chose the Willy Sagnol last fall to relocate Saivet central midfield. Hand's role has since become increasingly defensive and in his last (?) League match in navy played Henri as "six", just in front of the back line.

The question is what Newcastle expects Saivet? The British media presented him as "winger", and perhaps they have thought themselves to resettle him as forward.

Some issues to agree on the sum of around six million euros is not likely to occur. Henri needs of air. According to the French RMC Sport, the contract could be signed later Monday and Saivet himself to be on his way to Newcastle for medical examination.

http://www.svenskafans.com/europa/saivet-pa-vag-till-newcastle-545384.aspx
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:28:04 PM
He's canny good...

Spoiler
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So-so tackler though
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:28:07 PM
Good in the air and box to box according to the French journalist in that article on the previous page. That'll do me.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Zero on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:28:50 PM
Honesty i smell like another Gouffran.  If you are decent in scoring as a striker, why relocate backwards?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Nobody on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:29:22 PM
Is this the bloke that has been riddled with injuries?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:31:39 PM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/henri-saivet-newcastle-premier-league-status-can-he-sai-vet/

Sounds very very encouraging.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hughesy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:32:35 PM
Honesty i smell like another Gouffran.  If you are decent in scoring as a striker, why relocate backwards?

I think the crucial fact you are missing is that he wasn't particularly effective as a striker and had his position changed.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:36:38 PM
Gouffran didn't move backwards either TBF, Pardew was just clueless.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:38:04 PM
Was this lad ever a striker? I thought he was a winger turned box-to-box mid?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:38:38 PM
He's canny good...

Spoiler
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So-so tackler though

Pictures a bit racist
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:38:51 PM
I can't remember Gouffran ever being played as a striker for us, on the left of a front three was about as advanced as it ever got.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Was this lad ever a striker? I thought he was a winger turned box-to-box mid?

Striker as a kid when he first came through
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:40:39 PM
Honestly i'll be stunned if this lad is anything other than trash
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:42:08 PM
About f***ing time we utilised the French market.

:lol:

Remember 3 years ago when we unveiled a new French signing for like 6 days in a row one January. Same this transfer window but only players with surnames beginning with S
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:43:11 PM
Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ  44s44 seconds ago
Newcastle head coach Steve McClaren confirms Bordeaux midfielder Henri Saivet is having medical & discussing personal terms #SSNHQ
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:43:56 PM
:frantic:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:44:28 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wullie on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:45:02 PM
I can't remember Gouffran ever being played as a striker for us, on the left of a front three was about as advanced as it ever got.

Played up with Cisse against Leeds in the League Cup at home iirc.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:46:01 PM
Honesty i smell like another Gouffran.  If you are decent in scoring as a striker, why relocate backwards?

He wasn't decent at scoring, and was going nowhere as a winger apparently.  His best form in years is since he's been moved to midfield.

With Gouffran we bought a striker in form and just never played him as a striker and instead kept playing him in midfield were he was f***ing s***.  This lad has been moved because he failed up front after 8 years at the club and the manager thought he could be better in midfield, and he has been.

Who knows if he'll be good, I'm hopeful but far from sure, don't see any similarity to Gouffran though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:47:21 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

:lol: I tend to agree.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:49:31 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

Why is 5ft 9 any concern for a central midfielder?  Rob Lee is 5ft 10, Cabaye is 5ft 7.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:49:53 PM
Gouffran didn't move backwards either TBF, Pardew was just clueless.

I don't think Gouffran was ever that highly rated even as a striker. We bought him because he was going to be out of contract and available cheap when we were desperate to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:51:12 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

:lol: I tend to agree.

Sounds f***ing horrendous :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRC on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:52:23 PM
So have we just signed another player that wants to play as a number 10?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Twinport53 on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:53:01 PM
So have we just signed another player that wants to play as a number 10?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:53:09 PM
No
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:54:34 PM
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Physically powerful, compact, quick, good with his feet and an adept header of the ball...While his passing accuracy and ball retention could have used some help, it was clear that Saivet had great potential to be the type of energetic midfield destroyer that had made Blaise Matuidi so highly regarded at Paris Saint-Germain.

I don't know if that will translate to the premier, but that doesn't sound quite so horrendous despite him not being a six footer.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:55:04 PM
Can't believe we could potentially have a new central midfield pairing. The current team looks so bad everywhere due to a non existing midfield, so this is really encouraging stuff. Just a half decent functioning pair alone would improve the team no end.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:56:34 PM
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Physically powerful, compact, quick, good with his feet and an adept header of the ball...While his passing accuracy and ball retention could have used some help, it was clear that Saivet had great potential to be the type of energetic midfield destroyer that had made Blaise Matuidi so highly regarded at Paris Saint-Germain.

I don't know if that will translate to the premier, but that doesn't sound quite so horrendous despite him not being a six footer.

Sounds incredible. If his energy is anything close to Matuidi's we have struck gold.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:56:49 PM
I'm gonna put this out there and say he won't be much better than Gouffran.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:56:52 PM
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Despite a bright start to his Bordeaux career upon arriving from Senegal, the last few seasons have seen the career of Henri Saivet drift considerably. The club’s youngest-ever professional player, he was duly rewarded with plenty of chances in the first team under the likes of Francois Gillot after finding opportunities hard to come by in the club’s most recent run of success, under Laurent Blanc.

Last season was marred by injuries and time spent at the Cup of Africa Nations, and with the arrival of Clément Chantôme last January from Paris Saint-Germain, his career seemed to be at a crossroads.

With Wahbi Khazri operating behind a strike partnership generally populated by Diego Rolán and Isaac Kiese Thelin and a midfield trio of Chantôme, Gregory Sertic and Jaroslav Plasil, Willy Sagnol seemed to have hit upon a formula that would allow for the club to have the necessary defensive solidity while also allowing the former Bastia man a freer role in attack.

Indeed, Bordaux’s defence was easily the league’s most improved over the run-in, and after several uneven seasons, the club returned to European competition. With important veterans such as Cheick Diabaté and Lamine Sané set to return from long injury lay-offs, and a comprehensively impressive Europa League qualifying campaign, things were looking bright for Les Girondins as the 2015-16 season started.

To say that things have not gone smoothly over the intervening five months would be an understatement; first, Sertic was lost for the season at the season’s start.

Over next few months, Nicolas Pallois, so important in last season’s run-in was sidelined by injury and a ban for pushing an official, and fellow centre backs Sané and Pablo also found their way to the treatment table.

Eliminated from Europe and with the third-worst defence in the league, Bordeaux barely squeaked by amateur side Fréjus Saint-Raphael last weekend, and a trip to Montpellier, struggling but under new management after the resignation of Rolland Courbis, loomed.

The match on Saturday was lively enough, both sides hitting the woodwork as the visitors won 1-0 thanks to an opportunistic finish from Cheick Diabaté. Of more importance, perhaps, than the result, was how the transformation of Saivet may have reached its end game, some eight years on from his professional debut.

Originally used as a second striker, Saivet had, until the current campaign, occupied a variety of attacking roles, both in wide and central areas.

Physically powerful, compact, quick, good with his feet and an adept header of the ball, as a youngster upon his arrival from Cameroon, Saivet had earned comparisons to Thierry Henry. These plaudits were only part of an inexorable hype machine that saw the player rapidly rise through France’s youth ranks, despite a paucity of playing time at club level.

A brief loan to Angers was only a small respite from the bench at Bordeaux, and even if Gillot had given Saivet more chances, the consensus, particularly after last season’s ignominy, was that he was a player destined for the scrap heap.

However, in the wake of Sertic’s absence, a strange thing happened. After the pain of the opening weekend, a double whammy of losing the team captain and the match at home to a team in Reims that most would have rightly projected as a relegation struggler, a new hierarchy emerged in southwestern France.

Saivet was not only handed the armband, a huge surprise in itself given the experience of the likes of Diabaté, Sané and goalkeeper Cédric Carrasso, but installed alongside Chantôme at the base of midfield, in yet another new role.

The club’s next match, against Saint-Étienne, was hardly a thing of beauty, but Saivet rewarded the faith of Sagnol by delivering a stoppage time equaliser from a free kick to earn the team a much-needed point at the Stade Geoffroy-Guichard.

While poor goalkeeping on the part of Stéphane Ruffier may have had something to do with the nature of the goal itself, Saivet’s all-action performance meant that it would be hard to say it has not been deserved. He had, after all, earlier struck the woodwork from open play. Playing alongside Chantôme, Saivet lead the team that day in tackles, passes completed, blocks and touches.

While his passing accuracy and ball retention could have used some help, it was clear that Saivet had great potential to be the type of energetic midfield destroyer that had made Blaise Matuidi so highly regarded at Paris Saint-Germain.

The tireless French international is among the world’s best box-to-box midfielders, but he also lacks the craft and skill in attack that Saivet holds in reserve from his days in the attacking third.

There have certainly been growing pains for Saivet in his new role over the past few months as Sagnol negotiated a busy fixture list full of cup matches and European action, to say nothing of the club’s injury crisis, but he has continued to improve in terms of his positional discipline and passing intelligence, which is why Saturday finally convinced this writer of his ability.

With Pallois and Pablo still no longer an option in central defence, Chantôme was played alongside Cedric Yambéré, forcing Saivet to operate as the holding midfielder in a 4-3-3. While the heroics of Yambéré and Chantôme may have slightly overshadowed the play of Saivet in Bordeaux’s having kept a clean sheet, his presence in his relatively newfound role was impressive.

Usually played alongside the likes of Chantôme or Plasil, the occasion was not the first time that Saivet had sat so deep in midfield, but it was the first that showed such strong discipline on his part.

Having never had any issue with Saivet’s work ethic, tackling or (for the most part) his passing, any qualms with the player have generally come on the part of his making lung-busting runs to aid the offense and in the process forgetting his role in aiding a slow-footed partner in the form of Chantôme or Plasil.

However, when the occasion called for it, against a Montpellier side that were chomping at the pit to test Bordeaux’s makeshift centre back pairing, having set out their stall with an aggressive 4-2-1-3, Saivet delivered with aplomb.

Rarely going forward as far as the centre circle, and then only to harass Ryad Boudebouz as he tried to instigate the counter, he allowed Bordeaux’s full backs to get forward at will, tracking their runs and making challenges behind them. He also served as a fine conduit for playing the ball out of the back, linking with Plasil and Nicolas Maurice-Belay to allow them to move things forward.

In short, Saivet delivered not only an earnest and athletic performance, as per is his want; he also delivered it within the tactical framework laid out by his manager. Whether the player has truly turned the corner, only time will tell, but for the moment, considerable interest has been expressed in the player by English side Newcastle United.

Mocked under the leadership of Alan Pardew for the raft of Francophone players the club had previously brought in, they have done little this season to improve upon that rather dubious record, if the purchase of Florian Thauvin is anything to go by.

Under new manager Steve McClaren, the club have generally operated in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2, with Vurnon Anita partnering Jack Colback in central midfield. Anita is, like Saivet, a willing worker, but his lack of pace and aerial presence at just 5′ 6″ means that a midfield composed of he and Colback is too easily overwhelmed physically.

Too, with Colback more willing to play the Chantôme role, as it were, and sit a bit deeper, it is easy to Saivet, were he to make this move, be given a little bit longer leash than what he has often had this season under Sagnol.

I do not wish to dwell too much on this point, but suffice it to say that were this move to come to pass, Saivet would represent an upgrade on Anita and neatly slip into his role in the centre of the pitch.

As Bordeaux president Jean-Louis Triaud has been far from evasive about potential departures this summer, considering the club’s financial state, the move would seem to make sense for all involved.

For the moment, though, fans of French football and Ligue 1 should savour what may end up having been a fine conclusion to Henri Saivet’s Bordeaux career.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:56:54 PM
Gonna be a laugh when he's benched and Colback still starts.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:57:22 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

Why is 5ft 9 any concern for a central midfielder?  Rob Lee is 5ft 10, Cabaye is 5ft 7.
More that combined with the fact he's a winger, it just sounds horrible, and not at all something we should be gambling on when our midfield presence is close to 0.

I've never seen him like, he might be absolutely mint :lol:

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:58:06 PM
Anita and Colback should become backup right back and left back going forward now.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:58:56 PM
I'm gonna put this out there and say he won't be much better than Gouffran.

f*** off :lol:  Even our current starting central midfielders are better than Gouffran in that position and that's saying something.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 January 2016, 02:59:21 PM
Anita and Colback should become backup right back and left back going forward now.

You seen them play ?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:00:35 PM
Anita and Colback should become backup right back and left back going forward now.

You seen them play ?

 :lol: fair play.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:01:12 PM
http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/henri-saivet-newcastle-premier-league-status-can-he-sai-vet/

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Physically powerful, compact, quick, goof with his feet and an adept header of the ball, as a youngster upon his arrival from Cameroon, Saivet had earned comparisons to Thierry Henry.

Oh s***. :frantic:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:02:49 PM
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as a youngster upon his arrival from Cameroon, Saivet had earned comparisons to Thierry Henry

The lad'll be playing in goal for us by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:04:14 PM
Wijnaldum & Saviet - very FM12
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:04:50 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

Why is 5ft 9 any concern for a central midfielder?  Rob Lee is 5ft 10, Cabaye is 5ft 7.
More that combined with the fact he's a winger, it just sounds horrible, and not at all something we should be gambling on when our midfield presence is close to 0.

I've never seen him like, he might be absolutely mint :lol:



He was a winger, until this season.  I assume our scouts have actually watched him this season when he's played 22 games in midfield.  Certainly his ratings on who scored have rocketed up since he moved there, but that's hardly conclusive.  Hopefully we get him and Shelvey and can at least try to forget Colback ever existed.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:06:07 PM
I'm gonna put this out there and say he won't be much better than Gouffran.

f*** off :lol:  Even our current starting central midfielders are better than Gouffran in that position and that's saying something.

But Gouffran isn't a central/holding midfielder and neither is he really? :lol:

To be honest it's anyones f***ing guess where he'll play - if he goes CM then I'll say he'll be no better than Anita. If he plays on the wing I'll say he'll do no better than Gouffran. Basically all I'm saying is I'm very f***ing underwhelmed with this signing and it's another Frenchman to keep the rest of the lazy disinterested s***s in the dressing room clique company.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:07:46 PM
HE'S SENEGALESE YOU b******.  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:09:16 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:09:23 PM
5ft 9 winger moved into the centre of a Ligue 1 midfield doesn't really fill me with confidence like.

Why is 5ft 9 any concern for a central midfielder?  Rob Lee is 5ft 10, Cabaye is 5ft 7.
More that combined with the fact he's a winger, it just sounds horrible, and not at all something we should be gambling on when our midfield presence is close to 0.

I've never seen him like, he might be absolutely mint :lol:



He was a winger, until this season.  I assume our scouts have actually watched him this season when he's played 22 games in midfield.  Certainly his ratings on who scored have rocketed up since he moved there, but that's hardly conclusive.  Hopefully we get him and Shelvey and can at least try to forget Colback ever existed.
I kna the craic man :lol:

This all happened in Ligue 1, I think it's ridiculous at this time. Shelvey too but whatever, I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:09:48 PM
I'm gonna put this out there and say he won't be much better than Gouffran.

f*** off :lol:  Even our current starting central midfielders are better than Gouffran in that position and that's saying something.

But Gouffran isn't a central/holding midfielder and neither is he really? :lol:

To be honest it's anyones f***ing guess where he'll play - if he goes CM then I'll say he'll be no better than Anita. If he plays on the wing I'll say he'll do no better than Gouffran. Basically all I'm saying is I'm very f***ing underwhelmed with this signing and it's another Frenchman to keep the rest of the lazy disinterested s***s in the dressing room clique company.

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:10:34 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Of course, but i understand it tbh as none of us have a f***ing clue.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufcjb on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:13:43 PM
Any chance to play tomorrow?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:14:31 PM
I'm gonna put this out there and say he won't be much better than Gouffran.

f*** off :lol:  Even our current starting central midfielders are better than Gouffran in that position and that's saying something.

But Gouffran isn't a central/holding midfielder and neither is he really? :lol:

To be honest it's anyones f***ing guess where he'll play - if he goes CM then I'll say he'll be no better than Anita. If he plays on the wing I'll say he'll do no better than Gouffran. Basically all I'm saying is I'm very f***ing underwhelmed with this signing and it's another Frenchman to keep the rest of the lazy disinterested s***s in the dressing room clique company.

Well the only start Gouffran made this season he was in defensive midfield, we lost 6 -1 as well :lol:

Anyway I'm hardly excited by the signing, but since I've never seen him play (same as you) I'll wait and see before deciding he's s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:14:31 PM
Any chance to play tomorrow?
Nah, would have to have been done by 12 Today
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:15:21 PM
Just waiting for the thread title to change to 'Henri Saivet injured undergoing NUFC medical'

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:16:37 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:17:55 PM
HE'S SENEGALESE YOU b******.  :lol:

So are a lot of players in Ligue 1 who choose to represent France. He's born in a French colony and has played in France since '99. You know what I'm saying anyway, so don't be a bell.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:19:20 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Yeah I think some people don't seem able to grasp this. He's obviously impressed in centre midfield, the only question mark for me would be whether that will translate to the premier which is far faster and more physical. But we've all been calling for new blood in CM so I'm not going to complain about signing this guy and Shelvey.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:19:34 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Given that we played against him twice 2 years ago and Carr has been haunting Lique 1 stadiums for about 6 years its safe to say we know a lot about him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:20:52 PM
Any chance to play tomorrow?
Nah, would have to have been done by 12 Today
Will he not need a work permit due to being Senegalese?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:20:56 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Of course, but i understand it tbh as none of us have a f***ing clue.

I'm comparing him to Gouffran as we have no idea where he'll play and it's a very uninspiring signing which reeks of desperation and cluelessness, similar to Gouff's.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:21:27 PM
The Gouffran talk is so cringe man. Yikes.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:22:04 PM
Any chance to play tomorrow?
Nah, would have to have been done by 12 Today
Will he not need a work permit due to being Senegalese?

Been living in France for ages
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:22:10 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Yes. And rightly so. Obertan came from there too. Fraud city that place.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:22:30 PM
Any chance to play tomorrow?
Nah, would have to have been done by 12 Today
Will he not need a work permit due to being Senegalese?

Hes played for France youth teams and lived in Bordeaux over a decade :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:23:06 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Given that we played against him twice 2 years ago and Carr has been haunting Lique 1 stadiums for about 6 years its safe to say we know a lot about him.

I'm sure we know plenty about him, but you tend to hear names of players we're actively looking at and we never heard his name mentioned as a possible signing until this season.  Most likely we only started actively scouting him since he's switched position.  Think that was mentioned in a L'Equip article a few days ago as well (that our scouts were impressed with him as a central midfielder).
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:23:50 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Of course, but i understand it tbh as none of us have a f***ing clue.

I'm comparing him to Gouffran as we have no idea where he'll play and it's a very uninspiring signing which reeks of desperation and cluelessness, similar to Gouff's.

Gouffran was a striker that could fill in as a wide forward ,and we all knew that when he signed.

Of all the signings we made that January, he started the best.

Pardew then proceeded to move him further and further back because the guy never complained, until he bizarrely started playing him at central midfield.

It's one of the worst things I have ever witnessed in complete managerial cluelessness.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:28:43 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Given that we played against him twice 2 years ago and Carr has been haunting Lique 1 stadiums for about 6 years its safe to say we know a lot about him.

I'm sure we know plenty about him, but you tend to hear names of players we're actively looking at and we never heard his name mentioned as a possible signing until this season.  Most likely we only started actively scouting him since he's switched position.  Think that was mentioned in a L'Equip article a few days ago as well (that our scouts were impressed with him as a central midfielder).

Eh? Theres generally 22 players on the field during games, of course we dont hear the specific names of everyone we scout ffs. Its not like Carr actually follows him round the field with record on his camera phone :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:30:59 PM
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as a youngster upon his arrival from Cameroon, Saivet had earned comparisons to Thierry Henry

The lad'll be playing in goal for us by the end of the year.
Still better than Darlow
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Flip on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:31:01 PM
Last time I heard of this guy was when he was the best youngster on Football Manager as a winger. He's a CM now? Anyone know anything about how he's done in midfield?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:32:07 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Yes. And rightly so. Obertan came from there too. Fraud city that place.
aye and that Zidane lad. Keegan was right to turn him down  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:45:40 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Given that we played against him twice 2 years ago and Carr has been haunting Lique 1 stadiums for about 6 years its safe to say we know a lot about him.

I'm sure we know plenty about him, but you tend to hear names of players we're actively looking at and we never heard his name mentioned as a possible signing until this season.  Most likely we only started actively scouting him since he's switched position.  Think that was mentioned in a L'Equip article a few days ago as well (that our scouts were impressed with him as a central midfielder).

Eh? Theres generally 22 players on the field during games, of course we dont hear the specific names of everyone we scout ffs. Its not like Carr actually follows him round the field with record on his camera phone :lol:

I honestly don't even know what you're on about like, not going to bother...  Back to the discussion I care about, is he going to be better than Gouffran :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:48:36 PM
Last time I heard of this guy was when he was the best youngster on Football Manager as a winger. He's a CM now? Anyone know anything about how he's done in midfield?

Internet connection in Brazil is even worse than Nigeria. That's nuts!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:49:35 PM
Are people saying he's another Gouffran purely because he's coming from Bordeaux? :lol:

Of course, but i understand it tbh as none of us have a f***ing clue.

I'm comparing him to Gouffran as we have no idea where he'll play and it's a very uninspiring signing which reeks of desperation and cluelessness, similar to Gouff's.

Gouffran was a striker that could fill in as a wide forward ,and we all knew that when he signed.

Of all the signings we made that January, he started the best.

Pardew then proceeded to move him further and further back because the guy never complained, until he bizarrely started playing him at central midfield.

It's one of the worst things I have ever witnessed in complete managerial cluelessness.

Ah the good old days when you used to complain that Gouff wasn't been given enough game time.

Still think he'd had been a good bet for a reserve striker, bringing him on to buzz around tired defenders and make a nuiscence of himself
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:51:31 PM
Last time I heard of this guy was when he was the best youngster on Football Manager as a winger. He's a CM now? Anyone know anything about how he's done in midfield?

Internet connection in Brazil is even worse than Nigeria. That's nuts!

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: soyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:52:19 PM
 
Quote
joined Newcastle United in January 2016. He is nicknamed "The Fat Cock"
From wiki..
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:54:02 PM
(http://www.solofutbol.cl/Imagenes/Albunes%20de%20futbol/Equipos/girondins/girondins%202013-2014/saivet.jpg) (http://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/saivet-henri/1500000000607120/623:219,1419:620-665-335-70/54300.jpg)

(http://www.girondins.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/accueil_vignettes_grandes/upload/matches/2013-2014/L1/J05_FCGB_PSG/diaporama/2013.09.13_psg_saivet.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:54:35 PM
Cracking Teeth

Same wristbands as Cisse  :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:56:02 PM

I'll go the other way and say that if he goes CM he'll be better than Colback and Anita. If he plays on the wing he'll be better than Gouffran. That said, if we're signing him it should not be to play on the wing since he was previously s*** there in the french league.

We weren't linked with him at all before this season were we?  Think its safe to say we've scouted him since he moved into midfield.

Given that we played against him twice 2 years ago and Carr has been haunting Lique 1 stadiums for about 6 years its safe to say we know a lot about him.

I'm sure we know plenty about him, but you tend to hear names of players we're actively looking at and we never heard his name mentioned as a possible signing until this season.  Most likely we only started actively scouting him since he's switched position.  Think that was mentioned in a L'Equip article a few days ago as well (that our scouts were impressed with him as a central midfielder).

Eh? Theres generally 22 players on the field during games, of course we dont hear the specific names of everyone we scout ffs. Its not like Carr actually follows him round the field with record on his camera phone :lol:

I honestly don't even know what you're on about like, not going to bother...  Back to the discussion I care about, is he going to be better than Gouffran :lol:

You are making out like the media mentioning his name makes the slightest difference ffs. Its obvious Carr has known and seen him for years.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 03:59:30 PM
Watching Liverpool vs Bordeaux at the moment from a couple of months ago, looks to be playing defensive midfield.  Interesting to see how he does against a Premier League side.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:00:27 PM
Cracking Teeth

Same wristbands as Cisse  :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff:
Aye it's a complete mystery why him and Cisse both have red, green and yellow wristbands
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stal on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:00:33 PM
Its weird how we all think he plays in different positions like. Like a load of folk describing seeing a yeti and everyone describing him slightly differently.  In my mind I'm thinking he's a right winger for what its worth.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Flip on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:03:59 PM
Last time I heard of this guy was when he was the best youngster on Football Manager as a winger. He's a CM now? Anyone know anything about how he's done in midfield?

Internet connection in Brazil is even worse than Nigeria. That's nuts!

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Parky on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:04:12 PM
Better than out DM pairing and can play as a winger.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:09:28 PM
Watching Liverpool vs Bordeaux at the moment from a couple of months ago, looks to be playing defensive midfield. Interesting to see how he does against a Premier League side.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:12:27 PM
Better than out DM pairing and can play as a winger.

Parky has spoken. He's legit.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:13:10 PM
Watching Liverpool vs Bordeaux at the moment from a couple of months ago, looks to be playing defensive midfield.  Interesting to see how he does against a Premier League side.

Where are you watchin this? Might have a watch also.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:13:21 PM
Watching Liverpool vs Bordeaux at the moment from a couple of months ago, looks to be playing defensive midfield. Interesting to see how he does against a Premier League side.

 :laugh:
???
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:14:04 PM
Scored in that game didn't he?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:15:03 PM
Watching Liverpool vs Bordeaux at the moment from a couple of months ago, looks to be playing defensive midfield. Interesting to see how he does against a Premier League side.

 :laugh:

This was back in November before they went to s*** :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:15:23 PM
Scored in that game didn't he?

Direct free kick I think. Remember seeing the highlight at the time.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:16:12 PM
yup, free kick in the box, top corner
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:30:53 PM
How much is this transfer costing? Is it bargain bucket stuff like Gouffran/Sissoko or we paying a hefty transfer fee?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:31:39 PM
£5m ish
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sima on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:31:46 PM
£5m apparently.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BrettNUFC on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:34:10 PM
Not too bad. Know nothing about him, like. Read couple of articles from France on him and somehow he's went from being the next Henry to comparisons to Matuidi :lol:

Prefer the Matuidi comparison as Rivière was likened to Henry and look how he's turned out.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:36:12 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:37:00 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
:ben:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Cracking Teeth

Same wristbands as Cisse  :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff:
Aye it's a complete mystery why him and Cisse both have red, green and yellow wristbands

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Love us a French West African under 26.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:38:17 PM
Comedy at it's finest right there Stifler lad.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sima on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:43:38 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5xcZZPibIR8/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Has he been fed yet then, or what?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mouldy_uk on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:48:53 PM
Look forward to seeing him come on for Colback every week in about the 70th minute
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stottie on Monday 11 January 2016, 04:58:56 PM
Don't know the first thing about him.

The old vids on Youtube are of him up front and he looks way better at that than any of our current CMs. He's got a good leap on him and seems to like the ol' pass it in with the instep type shooting. Beardo was the master of that particular technique.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:00:09 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.

(http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/avs/avatar_4906_1449439421.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/TCo8ZNT4rrBAs/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SiLvOR on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:04:59 PM
Don't know a thing about him, but he simply has to be better than Colback. Hope that prick never plays for us again.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:06:25 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.

(http://otbva.com/forum/images/smilies2/th_chappelleprez.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:09:02 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5xcZZPibIR8/hqdefault.jpg)
:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:15:52 PM
:lol:

That Lawro vine is one of my favourite internet things
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:17:42 PM
Nah man, you're getting it all wrong. It's funny because the queue in Eat4Less is really long.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:22:32 PM
Aye Queue4More more like hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:28:39 PM
The queue goes down dead fast in Eat4Less so if he just gets a baguette he'd be out in no time, but he'd have to wait ages in Greggs if he was after a coffee. Smart lad
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:31:38 PM
Let's discuss this at length.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:33:26 PM
The Eastern European staff are terrifying. Very shouty and aggressive.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:36:09 PM
The Eastern European staff are terrifying. Very shouty and aggressive.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCXsgdWCUAA-12m.png)

'Efficient'
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: oldtype on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:55:07 PM
I had mistakenly assumed that I didn't find Stifler's joke funny due to lack of cultural context. It is somewhat comforting to know that it was actually just s*** to begin with.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sifu on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:56:54 PM
Just been having a skim read through the comments on Bordeaux's Facebook page, none of their fans are particularly happy with Saivet coming to us - they highly rate him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Spark on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:57:08 PM
I'm sure Stifler makes a Greggs-related "joke" every time we sign someone :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Monday 11 January 2016, 05:57:26 PM
Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:01:44 PM
Just been having a skim read through the comments on Bordeaux's Facebook page, none of their fans are particularly happy with Saivet coming to us - they highly rate him.

Ooooh good sign. We need a link to a Bordeaux forum for more snooping.

Fans insights are always valuable.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:02:04 PM
Never heard of him.

Calm down Pards.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:05:15 PM
Never heard of him.

Calm down Pards.

Wtf.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:08:34 PM
Know nowt about him, but hope to God he's a winger rather than a f***ing defensive midfielder.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Flip on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:09:49 PM
Never heard of him.

Calm down Pards.

Wtf.

:lol: Kaka cracks me up every single time.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sifu on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:13:06 PM
Just been having a skim read through the comments on Bordeaux's Facebook page, none of their fans are particularly happy with Saivet coming to us - they highly rate him.

Ooooh good sign. We need a link to a Bordeaux forum for more snooping.

Fans insights are always valuable.
The Bordeaux fans' comments wouldn't look too out place on this forum tbh [emoji23]
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sifu on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:15:02 PM
I'll get a summary written down later on.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
:ben:
:lol: Stifler's a proper patter assassin like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:18:03 PM
Wouldn't do any more business with them out of principle after they lumbered us with Gouffran.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:19:37 PM
Surely can't be as s*** as the rest of our centre midfielders. Is he massive?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:19:38 PM
They seem genuinely gutted. Most are putting him down as a 'technical midfielder' and one of their best players. One guy says good luck and have fun playing Reading next season. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:20:21 PM
They seem genuinely gutted and most are putting him down as a 'technical midfielder'. One guy says good luck and have fun playing Reading next season. :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:24:04 PM
Another French flop and Carr has some explaining to do (he already does)! Him and Shelvey would surely confine Gini to the wing?  If so, think that is a gross waste of talent leaving him out there.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:25:14 PM
He's gone from a ST in FIFA 11 to a RW to a LM to a RM to a ST and now he's a box-to-box CM in '16. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Another French flop and Carr has some explaining to do (he already does)! Him and Shelvey would surely confine Gini to the wing?  If so, think that is a gross waste of talent leaving him out there.
Senegalese Superstar man :snod:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BeloEmre on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:25:54 PM
Another French flop and Carr has some explaining to do (he already does)! Him and Shelvey would surely confine Gini to the wing?  If so, think that is a gross waste of talent leaving him out there.
            Saivet - Shelvey

         Sissoko - Gini - Perez

                  Mitrovic

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:25:57 PM
He's not Colback.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jaqen on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:27:09 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
:ben:
:lol: Stifler's a proper patter assassin like.

 :lol: Loves a Greggs reference.

It looks like some young guy who has just got off the Amsterdam plane half baked.

They guy just wants to grab his Greggs and go home, instead he's got some prick taking photos of him asking him if he's happy to be in Newcastle.

He's just had the best shag of his life with some prozzy for only €50, of course he's not happy to be here.

I'll have him in now thank you very much. This would be one of those bargains our chief scout is famed for, and wouldn't affect the CB money IMO.

Which centre back money?
The 62p Ashley has in his back pocket, however time is running out as Greggs are selling their remaining festive bakes on the cheap and they are running out fast.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:27:12 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
:ben:
:lol: Stifler's a proper patter assassin like.

He may have the comic prowess of a sedated Russ Abbott, but he's our Stifler! I wouldn't change him for anyone else.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:40:15 PM
Never heard of him.

Calm down Pards.

Wtf.

Hahaha ... sorry. It's just what I imagine Pardew said everytime they suggested another Frenchie!

Before then going on to plead for Darren bent and Steve Sidwell.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Karjala on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:42:57 PM
Another foreign midfielder most people have never heard of, could be great, but still not a striker. People building formations on here, getting all excited - unfortunately they mostly still have Mitrovic upfront.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Terrymac1966 on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:43:57 PM
Jeez lads can we actually give him a chance before writing him off.... I appreciate humour on forums but ffs everybody deserves our support when they pull on the shirt and cross the line... at least until they prove they can or can't ... good signing until proved otherwise is my own positive slant :)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:45:23 PM
He's gone from a ST in FIFA 11 to a RW to a LM to a RM to a ST and now he's a box-to-box CM in '16. [emoji38]
Can't Andre Ayew apparently play an insane amount of positions on FM?

Remember the glory days when Luis Enrique could play any position on the pitch, same with some Scandinavian whizz kid I can't recall but might have been Alexanderson who later played for Everton I think.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:47:30 PM
He's gone from a ST in FIFA 11 to a RW to a LM to a RM to a ST and now he's a box-to-box CM in '16. [emoji38]
Can't Andre Ayew apparently play an insane amount of positions on FM?

Remember the glory days when Luis Enrique could play any position on the pitch, same with some Scandinavian whizz kid I can't recall but might have been Alexanderson who later played for Everton I think.


Svindal Larsen was an absolute god on the old ones.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:56:09 PM
Rumour is he went to Greggs for steak bake but saw the prices of them so went to Eat4less instead, he will sign once he's finished waiting in the queue.
:ben:
:lol: Stifler's a proper patter assassin like.

 :lol: Loves a Greggs reference.

It looks like some young guy who has just got off the Amsterdam plane half baked.

They guy just wants to grab his Greggs and go home, instead he's got some prick taking photos of him asking him if he's happy to be in Newcastle.

He's just had the best shag of his life with some prozzy for only €50, of course he's not happy to be here.

I'll have him in now thank you very much. This would be one of those bargains our chief scout is famed for, and wouldn't affect the CB money IMO.

Which centre back money?
The 62p Ashley has in his back pocket, however time is running out as Greggs are selling their remaining festive bakes on the cheap and they are running out fast.
Are you stalking me, not even I can remember those posts and I highly doubt the forum has 'Stifler mentions Greggs' search function.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:56:35 PM
Quote
Saivet, in the French Ligue 1, has scored two goals this season, creating 14 chances and no assists. Saivet has completed 784 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 81%, of which 91% were forward passes.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/players/henri-saivet/stats



Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:56:54 PM
Quote
Saivet, in the French Ligue 1, has scored two goals this season, creating 14 chances and no assists. Saivet has completed 784 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 81%, of which 91% were forward passes.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/players/henri-saivet/stats


:fwap:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:57:47 PM
Quote
Saivet, in the French Ligue 1, has scored two goals this season, creating 14 chances and no assists. Saivet has completed 784 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 81%, of which 91% were forward passes.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/players/henri-saivet/stats





91%?! Such sorcery. Please tie that deal up quickly!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jaqen on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:59:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N02f_nxQXZI

s**** dance celebration WNS.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 January 2016, 06:59:25 PM
Pardew would stab him, unless they were aimless hoofs at Sneezy and Doc up top.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: shintonsghost on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:01:15 PM
another french gimp  :dave:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:01:25 PM
:anguish:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HTT on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:03:19 PM
Dat Premier League experience...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Andy84 on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:04:32 PM
Apparently the 9th player we've signed since 2010 to be represented by the agency 'Mondial sports management'.
Other players include Thauvin and Rivière  :hmm:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ujpest doza on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:06:59 PM
Apparently the 9th player we've signed since 2010 to be represented by the agency 'Mondial sports management'.
Other players include Thauvin and Rivière  :hmm:
Mmmmm.
Makes you wonder.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:07:12 PM
Quote
Saivet, in the French Ligue 1, has scored two goals this season, creating 14 chances and no assists. Saivet has completed 784 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 81%, of which 91% were forward passes.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/players/henri-saivet/stats


:fwap:

Watched the Liverpool v Bordeaux game from a couple of months ago and that's one of the things that stood out to me.  He was always putting himself in a position to receive the ball and then every time looking forward with his passes, most of the time very precise passes as well.  Also did plenty of shouting and organising from that defensive midfield position.  Had a brilliant game, even scored a cracking goal, but I've only seen that one game so :dontknow:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: chopey on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:07:30 PM
Apparently the 9th player we've signed since 2010 to be represented by the agency 'Mondial sports management'.
Other players include Thauvin and Rivière  :hmm:

What strikers do they have on their books ?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:07:39 PM
New left back huh.

Haidara. f*** happened to that guy?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:07:58 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.com/mondial-sport-management-amp-consulting-sarl/beraterfirma/berater/2106


And other players include Coutinho and Cavani, what's your point?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jaqen on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:08:46 PM
another french gimp  :dave:

(http://i.imgur.com/T15aDQw.gif)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:09:14 PM
Quote
Saivet, in the French Ligue 1, has scored two goals this season, creating 14 chances and no assists. Saivet has completed 784 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 81%, of which 91% were forward passes.

Read more at http://www.squawka.com/players/henri-saivet/stats


:fwap:

Watched the Liverpool v Bordeaux game from a couple of months ago and that's one of the things that stood out to me.  He was always putting himself in a position to receive the ball and then every time looking forward with his passes, most of the time very precise passes as well.  Also did plenty of shouting and organising from that defensive midfield position.  Had a brilliant game, even scored a cracking goal, but I've only seen that one game so :dontknow:

Had a bot of a watch also. Liked his corners too. He's a set piece taker!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Apparently the 9th player we've signed since 2010 to be represented by the agency 'Mondial sports management'.
Other players include Thauvin and Rivière  :hmm:

What strikers do they have on their books ?

Mitrovic is also.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dembacha on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:11:53 PM
Having watched him play regularly for a few years in a forward role, I'm happy to see that he seems to have found his feet as a midfielder, because I have to say in attack he was extremely underwhelming (rarely seemed to get into goal scoring positions or create much for anybody).
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:13:36 PM
Have you seen him at all in that midfield role?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:13:43 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.com/mondial-sport-management-amp-consulting-sarl/beraterfirma/berater/2106


And other players include Coutinho and Cavani, what's your point?
That we'd never sign those players?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:15:26 PM
Apparently the 9th player we've signed since 2010 to be represented by the agency 'Mondial sports management'.
Other players include Thauvin and Rivière  :hmm:

What strikers do they have on their books ?

Mitrovic is also.

http://www.transfermarkt.com/mondial-sport-management-amp-consulting-sarl/beraterfirma/berater/2106


And other players include Coutinho and Cavani, what's your point?

They've got plenty of players on their books I'd be happy with.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dembacha on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:17:45 PM
Have you seen him at all in that midfield role?

Nope. And I would never have imagined that he could make it as a central midfielder. Has been doing well apparently (according to some usually very pessemistic Bordeaux supporters I know)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:19:12 PM

They've got plenty of players on their books I'd be happy with.

:thup: they represent basically anyone good in France :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:20:06 PM
I don't think he was saying that the agency exclusively represent s*** players, more that we deal with them a lot and some of them have been proper s***. So if we're so interested in dealing with them we should probably do something about that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:21:05 PM
Club that is cheap as s*** looks to deal with as little agencies as possible shocker.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: George Bailey on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:21:33 PM
Have you seen him at all in that midfield role?

Nope. And I would never have imagined that he could make it as a central midfielder. Has been doing well apparently (according to some usually very pessemistic Bordeaux supporters I know)
O0
Thank you very much for the info...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:23:18 PM
I don't think he was saying that the agency exclusively represent s*** players, more that we deal with them a lot and some of them have been proper s***. So if we're so interested in dealing with them we should probably do something about that.

:thup: probably likely to find our next 15 targets or linked names in the press from that list of players too
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:54:17 PM
We are desperately in need of creativity so we sign someone without any assists :/ hmmmm
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:55:23 PM
I'm not sure where we intend to play this lad.

Can he play as a pure anchor and allow shelvey to get forward?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:57:58 PM
We are desperately in need of creativity so we sign someone without any assists :/ hmmmm

To be honest first of all we're in desperate need of a central midfield that isn't completely non existent.  If we can actually challenge the opposition in midfield we might have a chance of creating more.

Also would help if we didn't miss all the chances we do create, at least three clear cut chances against Arsenal we fluffed, and how many did we waste against Aston Villa.  We need someone up front we can rely on now and bring Mitrovic in when their's less pressure.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:58:39 PM
I hope the thinking isn't to have one exclusive position for one and one for the other, something more even. Saivet seems decent defensively but obviously has some attacking edge to his game too.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:58:45 PM
We are desperately in need of creativity so we sign someone without any assists :/ hmmmm

To be honest first of all we're in desperate need of a central midfield that isn't completely non existent.  If we can actually challenge the opposition in midfield we might have a chance of creating something.

I want to believe, but is he really going to land on his feet? Another gamble and we're running out of time.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 11 January 2016, 07:59:26 PM
Get in, there's a YouTube compilation entitled "Henri Saivet - The next Thierry Henry"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:00:13 PM
dun
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:00:35 PM
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:00:45 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:01:13 PM
I hope the thinking isn't to have one exclusive position for one and one for the other, something more even. Saivet seems decent defensively but obviously has some attacking edge to his game too.

Don't know, but Saivet/Shelvey looks far better than Colback/Anita or Colback/Tiote, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:01:20 PM
Just having a presence in midfield will change our dynamic I reckon, we need a player who can transition from df/at and not turn back in circles a la colback.  Also if we start getting a grip on the midfield we can push teams back and allow creative players time to play.

Saying all this he could be complete s*** tbh
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ryan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:01:44 PM
Struggling to get excited about this :dontknow:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:01:58 PM
That was fast :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:02:15 PM
Someone shoehorn a chant to wonderwall Saivet/Save me
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:02:26 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:02:37 PM

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:02:53 PM
Unreal that Ryder is still alive and breathing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:03:04 PM
Fkn stoked. We're ganna win teh league!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:03:18 PM

:lol: :lol:

just saw that :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BeloEmre on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:03:43 PM

:lol: :lol:
Ryder man  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:03:53 PM
Get in, there's a YouTube compilation entitled "Henri Saivet - The next Lienny Henry"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: STM on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:03 PM
How are you so quick Dave?

Bet your lass says that too.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:08 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160111/united-complete-saivet-signing_2281670_5266658
Quote
Newcastle United have completed the signing of Senegalese international Henri Saivet from Bordeaux.
The 25-year-old central midfielder has put pen to paper on a five-and-a-half-year deal at St. James' Park, arriving for an undisclosed fee.

Saivet came up through the ranks at Bordeaux, making his first team debut in 2007 at the age of 17.

He went on to make 178 appearances for the Ligue 1 side in all competitions, scoring 23 goals, and featured in both Europa League group games against the Magpies in the 2012/13 campaign.

"I am very happy to be here at Newcastle," said Saivet.

"I am really proud to be able to play for this Club, and I am really excited at the challenge that lies ahead.

"St. James' Park is a really impressive and special stadium. In France there is nothing that compares to this, and I can't wait to get out there with my new teammates and help the team climb the table."

Newcastle United head coach Steve McClaren said: "Henri is someone the Club have been watching for a while, and he has developed into an excellent player at Bordeaux.

"This is someone with a very good mentality, who is a tough player and a winner. Those are key qualities you need in the Premier League and we are looking forward to seeing him pulling on the Newcastle United shirt."
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:27 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:

Sissoko gone shirley?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:41 PM
Fkn stoked. We're ganna win tha league!

First bottom aye.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:44 PM
5.5 years :lol: :lol:

He better not be terrible
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tiresias on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:04:57 PM

Why do I expect him to be made to hold up an up to date newsletter and then a ransom demand to appear next?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:05:20 PM
5.5 years :lol: :lol:

He better not be terrible

Paedos do less time than that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:05:22 PM
Just having a presence in midfield will change our dynamic I reckon, we need a player who can transition from df/at and not turn back in circles a la colback.  Also if we start getting a grip on the midfield we can push teams back and allow creative players time to play.

Saying all this he could be complete s*** tbh

Agree with you brotha
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ryan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:05:33 PM
Mental how we're still signing players McClaren has never even heard of, you'd have thought we'd have maybe learnt after the Thauvin disaster.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:05:52 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:

Sissoko gone shirley?

Aye, I think so. Allows us to put Colback out wide.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:06:02 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:

I don't think either are CMs in this league, tbh. Gini for no. 10 for the rest of the season is a must.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: STM on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:06:31 PM
Mental how we're still signing players McClaren has never even heard of, you'd have thought we'd have maybe learnt after the Thauvin disaster.
g

How do you know McClaren hasn't heard of him?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:07:26 PM
Allegedly a £5million fee.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:07:33 PM
No mention of what number he'll wear. The debate should add plenty of depth to this thread over the coming days.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:07:37 PM
5.5 years :lol: :lol:

He better not be terrible

Paedos do less time than that.

Some of them just get stuck playing for Sunderland instead, cruel and unusual punishment.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Could probably put out a midfield and striker now who have won domestic titles in other countries
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:08:15 PM
That didn't take long.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Andy84 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:09:24 PM
Someone other than Sissoko who can carry it from A to B in midfield would be nice.   Hopefully it's him
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Elliottman on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:09:53 PM
Good luck to the lad.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:10:11 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160111/factfile-henri-saivet_2281670_5266745
Quote
- Saivet was born in Dakar, the capital city of Senegal, on 26th October, 1980.
- He joined the Academy at Bordeaux at the age of 11 and quickly rose through the ranks at the French club.
- Saivet became the youngest professional in Bordeaux's history when he signed his first professional deal in 2007.
- On the final day of the 2007/08 campaign he made his first team debut, stepping off the substitutes' bench for the final 12 minutes of Bordeaux's 2-2 draw at Lens.
- Saivet had to be patient for game time in the seasons that followed, making a handful of appearances, but enjoyed a successful loan spell at Ligue 2 side Angers in the second half of the 2010/11 season.
- Returning to Bordeaux, he began to make an impact on the first team squad and was a key part of their Coupe de France triumph in 2013.
- Saivet went on to become a key player for Bordeaux and made a total of 178 appearances in all competitions, scoring 23 goals.
- Originally a forward or winger, Saivet was converted into a holding central midfielder in recent years and flourished, taking on the captain's armband at Bordeaux.
- Saivet represented France at under-16, under-17, under-18 and under-21 level, but switched allegiances to his homeland in 2013, and has won nine senior caps for Senegal to date.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ryan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:10:43 PM
Mental how we're still signing players McClaren has never even heard of, you'd have thought we'd have maybe learnt after the Thauvin disaster.
g

How do you know McClaren hasn't heard of him?

Just with generic quotes like:

Quote
Newcastle United head coach Steve McClaren said: "Henri is someone the Club have been watching for a while, and he has developed into an excellent player at Bordeaux.

"This is someone with a very good mentality, who is a tough player and a winner. Those are key qualities you need in the Premier League and we are looking forward to seeing him pulling on the Newcastle United shirt."

and that we've been tracking him for well before McClaren was here. Maybe 'hasn't heard of him' was the wrong phrase but it just seems another deal we could get on the cheap from Carr's list, have no doubt he'd have arrived if Pardew/Carver was still here.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Andy84 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:11:16 PM
1980  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:12:00 PM
1980  :lol:

Didn't even notice that. A real turnaround in our transfer policy there. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:12:03 PM
 :lol:

Probably accurate tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morpeth mag on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:12:05 PM
Colback to left back?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:12:26 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:

Sissoko gone shirley?

Aye, I think so. Allows us to put Colback out wide.

Wide, maybe. Reckon Colback will be moved into The Perez role. Don't think Thauvin will lose his place considering his price tag.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:12:46 PM
Uh oh here comes the old age rumours :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:13:07 PM
http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20160111/factfile-henri-saivet_2281670_5266745
Quote
- Saivet was born in Dakar, the capital city of Senegal, on 26th October, 1980.
- He joined the Academy at Bordeaux at the age of 11 and quickly rose through the ranks at the French club.
- Saivet became the youngest professional in Bordeaux's history when he signed his first professional deal in 2007.
- On the final day of the 2007/08 campaign he made his first team debut, stepping off the substitutes' bench for the final 12 minutes of Bordeaux's 2-2 draw at Lens.
- Saivet had to be patient for game time in the seasons that followed, making a handful of appearances, but enjoyed a successful loan spell at Ligue 2 side Angers in the second half of the 2010/11 season.
- Returning to Bordeaux, he began to make an impact on the first team squad and was a key part of their Coupe de France triumph in 2013.
- Saivet went on to become a key player for Bordeaux and made a total of 178 appearances in all competitions, scoring 23 goals.
- Originally a forward or winger, Saivet was converted into a holding central midfielder in recent years and flourished, taking on the captain's armband at Bordeaux.
- Saivet represented France at under-16, under-17, under-18 and under-21 level, but switched allegiances to his homeland in 2013, and has won nine senior caps for Senegal to date.
He's 35 - older than Mbemba.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:13:33 PM
'f*** have you changed with the forum, Dave? Font?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:14:18 PM
'f*** have you changed with the forum, Dave? Font?

Nope?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:14:19 PM
They've changed it to 1990 now like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:14:30 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:15:04 PM
Can he play against Man U?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:15:30 PM
They've changed it to 1990 now like.

And sent paramedics around to Ashley's gaff.

More's the pity.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BeloEmre on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:15:59 PM
Can he play against Man U?
Nah.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:16:08 PM
'f*** have you changed with the forum, Dave? Font?

Nope?

My eyes are f***ing with me. I don't even know. Feels like something has changed, though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ryan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:16:19 PM
Can he play against Man U?

Has to be registered by 12 noon the day beforehand I think.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BONTEMPI on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:16:22 PM
Welcome Henri. Hope you do well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:16:49 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

None of the previous 3 have shown any leadership, neither has Coloccini of course.

At least this lad seems to shout orders and try to organise from what I've seen.  I've seen the sum total of one game like but its still more leadership shown in one game than Coloccini has shown all season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:16:58 PM
Can he play against Man U?

Has to be registered by 12 noon the day beforehand I think.

Ah okay, shame.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:18:20 PM
[emoji38]

Probably accurate tbh.
Racist Mole, what a shock.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:18:29 PM
'f*** have you changed with the forum, Dave? Font?

Nope?

My eyes are f***ing with me. I don't even know. Feels like something has changed, though.

Press Ctrl+0.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BottledDog on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:18:36 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

I'm not even p*ssed at him retaining the captaincy. Surely the captains we continually buy have some character to them and show something on the pitch ffs. Wasn't Sissoko a captain too?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:19:26 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

None of the previous 3 have shown any leadership, neither has Coloccini of course.

At least this lad seems to shout orders and try to organise from what I've seen.  I've seen the sum total of one game like but its still more leadership shown in one game than Coloccini has shown all season.

However, Siem and Gini were lauded for their captaincy and leadership. I recall Hilton being the guy at Montpellier who shouted the most fwiw.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:20:02 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

I'm not even p*ssed at him retaining the captaincy. Surely the captains we continually buy have some character to them and show something on the pitch ffs. Wasn't Sissoko a captain too?

Don't recall tbh, didn't think so?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:20:32 PM

#rattled
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Andy84 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:20:56 PM
Striker to winger to DM, already Pre Goufranned.

Anyway welcome Henri  :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:22:12 PM
[emoji38]

Probably accurate tbh.
Racist Mole, what a shock.

 :badyao:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:22:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6hhbsJ1.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:23:07 PM
f*** sake :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:23:09 PM

#rattled

He doesn't have to move his finger to the left at all after typing the first 9 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:23:33 PM
Is he another CM?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:26:34 PM

#rattled

 :lol: So proud of our fans when it comes to giving the club abuse on social media tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:28:32 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

None of the previous 3 have shown any leadership, neither has Coloccini of course.

At least this lad seems to shout orders and try to organise from what I've seen.  I've seen the sum total of one game like but its still more leadership shown in one game than Coloccini has shown all season.

However, Siem and Gini were lauded for their captaincy and leadership. I recall Hilton being the guy at Montpellier who shouted the most fwiw.

They certainly haven't brought that leadership here if they ever showed it elsewhere.  Lets hope that once he's settled in this lad shows some balls and opens his mouth to let the rest know when they're not doing enough.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:29:13 PM
Is he another CM?

(http://i.imgur.com/W26fyQ4.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:30:53 PM
(http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/1a/90/0,,10278~14258202,00.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Incognito on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:32:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6hhbsJ1.jpg)

[emoji38]
We've signed Dwayne Dibley?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:32:32 PM
Is he another CM?

Aye but we're hoping this lad can actually play in central midfield!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Phillipealbert on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:32:59 PM
This reminds me of the time we signed Blob when we already had two quality keepers and were desperate for a LB.

Scroll forward to now, when we desperately need (amongst other things) a striker and Centre half and we're going to end up with more CMs than we have the other positions combined.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:34:03 PM
Aye because our current CMs are just oozing quality.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:36:13 PM
We've signed MYM, Siem De Jong, Wijnaldum, and now Saivet who were captains of their club - yet, somehow, Colo has retained the f***ing armband. f*** sake :lol:

None of the previous 3 have shown any leadership, neither has Coloccini of course.

At least this lad seems to shout orders and try to organise from what I've seen.  I've seen the sum total of one game like but its still more leadership shown in one game than Coloccini has shown all season.

However, Siem and Gini were lauded for their captaincy and leadership. I recall Hilton being the guy at Montpellier who shouted the most fwiw.

They certainly haven't brought that leadership here if they ever showed it elsewhere.  Lets hope that once he's settled in this lad shows some balls and opens his mouth to let the rest know when they're not doing enough.

Agree with you man.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: timeEd32 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:39:01 PM
Happy with this as long as he's the first of three (potential first teamers) at an absolute minimum.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:41:49 PM
Can he play against Man U?

Missed the deadline to play on Thuesday unfortunately
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:43:58 PM
Can he play against Man U?

Missed the deadline to play on Thuesday unfortunately

(http://i.imgur.com/W26fyQ4.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Phillipealbert on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Aye because our current CMs are just oozing quality.

I think we have two quality CMs who are playing badly - Wij and Sissoko.  Whether that's morale, tactics or motivation, unless you get a World Class player in there, I think anyone would be playing badly with the way this club is set up.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:46:37 PM
Can he play against Man U?

Cup tied.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:48:02 PM
Is he another CM?

Aye but we're hoping this lad can actually play in central midfield!
Cool. We can play 5 CM's now and 3 CB's
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: cp40 on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:52:30 PM
does he have a forward pass?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: duo on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:54:46 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:
lol Struggling to understand the signing.  We need goals and he doesn't seem the player to help us get them.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:55:58 PM
Siem spends more time barking at others than doing anything else when he's playing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:56:49 PM
"He hasnt been a winger for ages but ill call him one to fit my narrative"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ameritoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:58:19 PM
Signing a winger to play in the centre, whilst keeping Wijnaldum and Sissoko out wide. :lol:
lol Struggling to understand the signing.  We need goals and he doesn't seem the player to help us get them.

We also need a presence in midfield, a powerful centerback, a leftback and someone who can cross.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:59:18 PM
and a keeper and a manager and an owner and a chairman
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:59:41 PM

#rattled

 :lol: So proud of our fans when it comes to giving the club abuse on social media tbh.

tbh, Ant's a f***ing pro at putting up with the abuse he gets when he doesnt deserve any of it. he's a great guy
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Astroblack on Monday 11 January 2016, 08:59:56 PM
Hope he does well. Good luck to the lad.  :)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kimbo on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:08:49 PM
I hope he is good at football.  :milner:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:08:52 PM
also, why has he not got a number?  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:16:15 PM
At least if he's s**** we'll struggle to shift him due to laughable contract :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dokko on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:18:52 PM
also, why has he not got a number?  :lol:

Club originally gave him one before realising they typed in the wrong number as the number was already taken.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Yorkie on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:24:17 PM
At least if he's s**** we'll struggle to shift him due to laughable contract :thup:

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:28:18 PM

Poor b******.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:32:28 PM
At least if he's s**** we'll struggle to shift him due to laughable contract :thup:

Surely there'll be relegation clauses suited to both parties for any players we sign this month.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:39:49 PM
Probably not on that high of a wage either, nowt wrong with a 5 year contract for a 24 year old.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:42:02 PM
Aye, would be more concerned if we were handing out 3 year contracts.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:51:13 PM
Please don't be absolutely s****, mate. Thanks.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ally on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:53:03 PM
Never seen this guy play but I'm scared he is the next Amdy Faye
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:53:13 PM
Has he got pace
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:53:33 PM
That laugh and the joy in him man. Soon gone  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:53:47 PM
Never seen this guy play but I'm scared he is the next Amdy Faye

 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:54:13 PM
Has he got pace

No the club were actively looking for a turtle. Read the thread you silly man.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:55:11 PM
Has he got pace

He's pretty quick apparently, looked quick in the game I saw as well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tooj on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:55:40 PM
[emoji38] Pure unadulterated Nigerian from KaKa.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:58:20 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:59:31 PM
Don't forget to vote Kaka :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 11 January 2016, 09:59:57 PM
Didn't realise it was him that scored the indirect free-kick when Mignolet held the ball too long earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:00:28 PM
Has he got pace

No the club were actively looking for a turtle. Read the thread you silly man.

You're getting punched
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: MyPalAl on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:00:48 PM
Has he got pace

No the club were actively looking for a turtle. Read the thread you silly man.

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:04:16 PM
I'm just glad we've signed a genuine winger finally.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:06:28 PM
Has he got pace

No the club were actively looking for a turtle. Read the thread you silly man.

You're getting punched

Sorry man. Was a bit harsh  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:07:18 PM
I'm just glad we've signed a genuine winger finally.

You guys are the worst man  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:07:45 PM
I'm just glad we've signed a genuine winger finally.

You guys are the worst man  :lol:

;)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thomas on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:15:06 PM
I'm just glad we've signed a genuine winger finally.

You guys are the worst man  :lol:
*bursts through door holding clipboard of latest poll numbers* Actually ...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:16:36 PM
I'm just glad we've signed a genuine winger finally.

You guys are the worst man  :lol:
*bursts through door holding clipboard of latest poll numbers* Actually ...

(http://otbva.com/forum/images/smilies2/th_jonstewarthahaha.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ste on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:16:37 PM
Former Football Manager wonderkid. He can't fail.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scotty66 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:21:08 PM
Was a main part of my multiple League and Champions League titles.

Over to you Steve.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:26:48 PM
Aye because our current CMs are just oozing quality.

:lol: I sometimes wonder if posters have watched even 45 mins of this season before commenting.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Unbelievable! on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Wow that was surprisingly quick and efficient. Welcome to the madhouse Henri!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LionOfGosforth on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:40:54 PM

Poor b******.

Class siren in the background.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:42:29 PM
Has he got pace

No the club were actively looking for a turtle. Read the thread you silly man.

You're getting punched

Sorry man. Was a bit harsh  :lol:


Too late mate
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:45:13 PM
Played 18 scored 2 goals but no assists!!!This signing is going to solve our lack of creativity??
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:46:38 PM
Played 18 scored 2 goals but no assists!!!This signing is going to solve our lack of creativity??

No, it's going to solve our complete lack of presence in midfield. Well it might not, but it's supposed to.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:46:52 PM
Played 18 scored 2 goals but no assists!!!This signing is going to solve our lack of creativity??

My head hurts.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:48:55 PM
Played 18 scored 2 goals but no assists!!!This signing is going to solve our lack of creativity??

He's going to replace Anita (and Colback hopefully) not Sissoko or Wijnaldum.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Klaus on Monday 11 January 2016, 10:55:53 PM
The last lad we signed from Bordeux was class.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 03:26:57 AM
Never seen this guy play but I'm scared he is the next Amdy Faye

 :lol:
Amdy anad Abdoulaye p*ssed all over colback and Anita tbf.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sima on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 03:54:09 AM
This thread is pissing optimism.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dembacha on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 06:42:57 AM
The last lad we signed from Bordeux was class.

He wasn't too bad whilst at bordeaux and looked good when he first arrived. The attributes he did have which were his pace and willingness to get in behind defences were never properly used by pardew, who was more interested in seeing him man mark the likes of tony Hibbert out of games. Feel sorry for him in a way.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 06:57:23 AM
Man mark Hibbert [emoji38]
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 07:31:34 AM
Never seen this guy play but I'm scared he is the next Amdy Faye

 :lol:
Amdy anad Abdoulaye p*ssed all over colback and Anita tbf.

Abdoulaye was a centre half and Amdy was probably the worst midfielder I've ever seen in a Newcastle shirt.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 07:36:20 AM
Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lenny on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 07:42:51 AM
Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc

Fell out with Keegan didn't he? He mostly played centre back for us but recall he could also play centre mid.

Thought he was decent for us.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 07:43:41 AM
Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc

Fell out with Keegan didn't he? He mostly played centre back for us but recall he could also play centre mid.

Thought he was decent for us.
Yeah I remember him being decent as well
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 08:00:43 AM
At this club, the decent ones linger in the mind.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BrettNUFC on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 08:11:58 AM
He's already mentioning our bad luck, no doubt McClaren has him brainwashed already :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: andyman on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 08:24:17 AM
Class siren in the background.

Soundtrack of my 6 months living in Newcastle. Sirens all day, every day.

Welcome to Newcastle, Saivet!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: andyman on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 08:29:48 AM
I guess you're right. I'm used to life on a small island in Norway  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:18:20 AM

Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc

Fell out with Keegan didn't he? He mostly played centre back for us but recall he could also play centre mid.

Thought he was decent for us.

Seem to remember a training ground bust up being reported before he left?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:23:10 AM

Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc

Fell out with Keegan didn't he? He mostly played centre back for us but recall he could also play centre mid.

Thought he was decent for us.

Seem to remember a training ground bust up being reported before he left?

Wasnt it at HT of the Everton game on the final day of the season? Sure he had a bust up and was substituted never to be heard of again. Maybe something to do with Nzogbia too as well as KK?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ste on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:34:20 AM


Why did Abdoulaye leave so soon again? He wasn't terrible iirc

Fell out with Keegan didn't he? He mostly played centre back for us but recall he could also play centre mid.

Thought he was decent for us.

Seem to remember a training ground bust up being reported before he left?

Wasnt it at HT of the Everton game on the final day of the season? Sure he had a bust up and was substituted never to be heard of again. Maybe something to do with Nzogbia too as well as KK?

N'Zogbia sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:39:48 AM
Just checked, he definitely got hauled off by KK at HT in that last game.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SiLvOR on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:26:36 AM
As long as this puts Colback in the bin. Don't want that waste of a shirt near our starting 11 anymore.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:28:01 AM
I would be amazed if Colback gets dropped, obvs I hope he does. It would be a very brave decision for McClaren, fans seem to love him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Varadi on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:29:52 AM
I would be amazed if Colback gets dropped, obvs I hope he does. It would be a very brave decision for McClaren, fans seem to love him.

Colback to LB seems the way out, keep him in the team, get him out of the middle of the park.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: RobS on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:34:21 AM
I would be amazed if Colback gets dropped, obvs I hope he does. It would be a very brave decision for McClaren, fans seem to love him.

GEORDIE PASSSHUN
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:38:10 AM
Are really at the point where dripping Jack Colback is brave? Is this the measure of how far we've fallen?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:41:36 AM

Are really at the point where dripping Jack Colback is brave? Is this the measure of how far we've fallen?

:lol: yeah basically. Very grim.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:51:56 AM
Yes, sadly.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 01:16:03 PM
I would be amazed if Colback gets dropped, obvs I hope he does. It would be a very brave decision for McClaren, fans seem to love him.

Colback to LB seems the way out, keep him in the team, get him out of the middle of the park.

That wouldn't be the worst outcome, he can probably bring a lot more going forward than Dummett. Not sure if he will be up to the mark defensively though. Dummett is pretty good in the air for one thing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ted Maul on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 02:05:49 PM
I would be amazed if Colback gets dropped, obvs I hope he does. It would be a very brave decision for McClaren, fans seem to love him.

Colback to LB seems the way out, keep him in the team, get him out of the middle of the park.

That wouldn't be the worst outcome, he can probably bring a lot more going forward than Dummett. Not sure if he will be up to the mark defensively though. Dummett is pretty good in the air for one thing.

I am not a Dummett fan, but would 100% play him at LB over Colback.  At least he offers some defensive solidity.  Colback offers nothing whatsoever.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 02:08:07 PM
Colback has no lungs or legs and awful positioning. I wouldn't fancy him at LB at all.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: M1tche on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 06:09:48 PM
Colcack gets booked tonight and we could be onto a winner.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:49:41 PM
Colcack gets booked tonight and we could be onto a winner.

You jinxed it you fecker you  :angry:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: timeEd32 on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:51:58 PM
That was a nice intro for him. Hope he enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 09:59:39 PM
Get this c*** in with the new baldy c*** and the two c***s together will transform our central midfield. Whether that's into something that will keep us up is anyones guess, but it cannot get any worse if we get Colback the f*** out of there.

Tiote/Shelvey could work at a push.

Just get Colback out pls.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: M1tche on Tuesday 12 January 2016, 11:27:35 PM
Colcack gets booked tonight and we could be onto a winner.

You jinxed it you fecker you  :angry:

My bad, i'll just be ermmmmmm............. :eek:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:34:07 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/henri-saivet-scouting-report-football-7164243

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-new-boy-henri-saivet-7165989


“Newcastle is in a state of emergency, I know that. Newcastle, it is an exceptional challenge for me.

"To arrive at this moment in the season to help them climb the table, it is something very exciting. I am a guy who needs a challenge. I am someone who needs to measure myself up, to see what I can do.

“I have seen a fair amount of matches from Newcastle when the initial contacts were established. For a little while now, they are losing on the small details, often by one goal, it is a cycle of bad luck. I am convinced that it will turn around.”

Steve McClaren held detailed talks with Saivet as the move was sealed, and he will play in a central midfield role.

Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.

“For me, it is quite simply the most attractive league. Every footballer says it, I have friends who play in Spain who want to come here. The stadiums, the fans, everything is different. It is everyone’s dream, and in any case it is mine.”

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:37:17 AM
that actually sounds pretty good tbh
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:43:45 AM
Yeah that sounds very good.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:45:40 AM
Sounds actually very good IMO tbh
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ash on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:46:44 AM
Plays central midfield, isn't ginger and isn't called Jack Colback so he's going to be f***ing brilliant.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:46:47 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 02:31:20 AM
Nice quotes from Saivet, wish he'd start him and Shelvey on Saturday and just went about it the right way.

Plays central midfield, isn't ginger and isn't called Jack Colback so he's going to be f***ing brilliant.

:lol: f***ing love Ash
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stottie on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 03:20:23 AM
Saivet might get closer to Payet than we managed earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:23:06 AM
Just put them both straight in and hope for the new player bounce like we did when Sissoko, Gouffran, etc arrived and started well. Might just take a similar run of 3 wins in a row or something to get us out of it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stal on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:38:22 AM
Can't shake this nagging feeling they'll play him wide right.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:42:56 AM
I don't think he'll move Sissoko.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: CPL on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:49:10 AM
Think he'll start Shelvey and Saivet will come from the bench for West Ham.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 08:07:51 AM
Think he'll start Shelvey and Saivet will come from the bench for West Ham.
Same. He'll go for Colback and Shelvey I reckon from the off, which will be equal parts [emoji38] and :anguish:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:44:52 AM
Can't shake this nagging feeling they'll play him wide right.

So the manager tells him he is playing CM, theres no hope of us ditching Sissoko yet you still want to find a problem?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: basjen on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:04:46 AM
From McClarens quotes it sounds like we signed Gouffran, only post-transformation to midfielder.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:09:59 AM
:anguish:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 11:17:05 AM
From McClarens quotes it sounds like we signed Gouffran, only post-transformation to midfielder.

How does it sound like that? :dowie:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 11:33:41 AM
From McClarens quotes it sounds like we signed Gouffran, only post-transformation to midfielder.
Eh?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 11:35:04 AM
"Henri is utter, utter s***, he's someone we've been monitoring for some time and he'll add absolutely nothing to the squad"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 11:40:47 AM
Think he'll start Shelvey and Saivet will come from the bench for West Ham.

Yep.  Have a horrible feeling that Colback will be even worse than usual.  As he'll be hiding even more than normal, to make sure he doesn't get a yellow.  He must realise, that if he gets a ban.  It is highly likely that Saivet will come straight in and outperform him.  The fact Saivet has a pulse, pretty much means he's an upgrade on Colback. 

I hope Colback gets booked early, gets a niggle and then Saivet comes on. 
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:37:07 PM
The real hope is Colback gets hurt in training this week so he doesn't even feature

(can't believe I just went there...that's how crap he is - that little slack dive in the box somehow made me hate him even more)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:52:59 PM
#23  :scared:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 12:56:48 PM
The real hope is Colback gets hurt in training this week so he doesn't even feature

(can't believe I just went there...that's how crap he is - that little slack dive in the box somehow made me hate him even more)

Yup should have just put his right foot through the ball and hoped for the best.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 01:05:33 PM
#23  :scared:

He's got some big shoes to fill.  Hope he has a decent hat collection.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 01:06:14 PM
#23  :scared:
Should be retired after Shola tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: George Bailey on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Does he even like apples?? Can he ride a bike...disgrace.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 03:09:46 PM
Nice, let's wash the stench out of that number once and for all :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 03:38:01 PM
Nice, let's wash the stench out of that number once and for all :thup:
:thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 04:34:25 PM
Nice, let's wash the stench out of that number once and for all :thup:
:thup:

:thup:

Boys netball players have no place being associated with the number of the magnificent nigerian geordie man mountain.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 04:57:33 PM
Choosing to wear number 23 shows guts. :llorente?:
The iconic Newcastle numbers are 9, 10 and 23.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:11:18 PM
True baller's number. Like the lad already.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:17:58 PM
This Shola as some sort of cult figure needs to stop now. There's nothing funny about us giving him contract after contract despite showing time and again that he was utter turd.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:29:34 PM
I liked him as an entity though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:30:38 PM
If you didn't laugh with NUFC there would be rivers of tears.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:38:19 PM
If you didn't laugh with NUFC there would be Rivieres of tears.
Fixed
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:42:51 PM
If you didn't laugh with NUFC there would be rivers of tears.

So true.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:53:35 PM
The Shola bat signal pic that someone did when we were about to play the mackems was funny tbf. And the bike banana. And the hats.

He was a good meme basically. Shola A-meme-obi.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 06:54:45 PM
The Shola bat signal pic that someone did when we were about to play the mackems was funny tbf. And the bike banana. And the hats.

He was a good meme basically. Shola A-meme-obi.

And the "in case of local derby break glass" thing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: STM on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:33:22 PM
Reckon he will start against West Ham, in place of Tiote. Think Shelvey could start on the bench.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:34:53 PM
How do you pronounce this guy's name then?

I'm thinking Sci-vay?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 07:36:54 PM
Close enough.

In his video he seems to go for nearer to sah-vey, but it's accents and all that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:25:29 PM
Don't expect him to start games.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:31:43 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:33:26 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:34:06 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

You've gotto be kidding me.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:34:26 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

How's the badge coming along?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:34:49 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

Quote
Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.”
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:35:56 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

One who knew exactly about his game and was able to talk to him in detail about what he liked about him too :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:36:01 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.
Indeed.

Can't imagine fat mike would be thrilled with us spending more on a player the manager refuses to start.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: STM on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:36:44 PM
Poor stiffy.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:38:33 PM
Not as impressive as the sauce in the greggs bacon sandwich being able to talk mind.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:40:37 PM
Just read the quotes in the Mirror from the man himself:

Steve McClaren held detailed talks with Saivet as the move was sealed, and he will play in a central midfield role.

Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him."

Sounds like Stifler's wrong on this one! McC even undertook a bit of Wise-ing before meeting with the lad personally.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03176/denniswise1_3176532b.jpg)

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:42:21 PM
That f***ing hair man :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Peppe on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:43:45 PM
The Shola bat signal pic that someone did when we were about to play the mackems was funny tbf. And the bike banana. And the hats.

He was a good meme basically. Shola A-meme-obi.

And the "in case of local derby break glass" thing.

Where can i find these? :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:44:50 PM
That f***ing hair man :lol:

Creased, completely forgot all about it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:46:03 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.
Indeed.

Can't imagine fat mike would be thrilled with us spending more on a player the manager refuses to start.

How much was Thauvin?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 09:46:58 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.
Indeed.

Can't imagine fat mike would be thrilled with us spending more on a player the manager refuses to start.

How much was Thauvin?
Thauvin is behind Moussa and Gini.

This lad would be behind Colback Anita and Tiote
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Elliottman on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:02:27 PM
Would love to know who the reliable source is.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:02:36 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

Quote
Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.”

Slightly different but still...

“When I flew in on Monday, the club presented me to Kevin Keegan.

“He talked to me in a bit of detail about his plans for the footballing development of the club.

“That was an important moment for me in my decision to accept this incredible turn of events.

“I just can’t believe he won’t be there when I get back from international duty.

“The words might be cliched but it has always been my dream to play in English football.

“That has been the case since I was a kid.”


- Xisco.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:04:03 PM
Would love to know who the reliable source is.

Think about it.

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 13 January 2016, 10:04:45 PM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

Quote
Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.”

Slightly different but still...

“When I flew in on Monday, the club presented me to Kevin Keegan.

“He talked to me in a bit of detail about his plans for the footballing development of the club.

“That was an important moment for me in my decision to accept this incredible turn of events.

“I just can’t believe he won’t be there when I get back from international duty.

“The words might be cliched but it has always been my dream to play in English football.

“That has been the case since I was a kid.”


- Xisco.

Was that other c*** that did it, no?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Thursday 14 January 2016, 12:10:58 AM
Didn't want him as in didn't actively ask for him I bet.  If this is even true to begin with that is.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 14 January 2016, 12:38:14 AM
Think we'll find out on Saturday.  Hoping to see Saivet and Shelvey starting with Wijnaldum in the no.10 role and Sissoko and Perez / Thauvin either side of him.

Horrible feeling we'll see Shelvey start with Colback though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 14 January 2016, 12:54:12 AM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

Quote
Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.”

Slightly different but still...

“When I flew in on Monday, the club presented me to Kevin Keegan.

“He talked to me in a bit of detail about his plans for the footballing development of the club.

“That was an important moment for me in my decision to accept this incredible turn of events.

“I just can’t believe he won’t be there when I get back from international duty.

“The words might be cliched but it has always been my dream to play in English football.

“That has been the case since I was a kid.”


- Xisco.

Was that other c*** that did it, no?

Aye I'm fairly sure there was nothing too shady about the Xisco deal, as far as KK was concerned (besides the fact he probably didn't know that much about him)? Gonzalez was the real issue? Could be wrong.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Thursday 14 January 2016, 07:28:27 AM
I would not start this lad for a few games.  Not worth the damage it will do.  Better to get him up to speed as a sub that throw him in at the deep end?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Incognito on Thursday 14 January 2016, 07:32:40 AM
Just read the quotes in the Mirror from the man himself:

Steve McClaren held detailed talks with Saivet as the move was sealed, and he will play in a central midfield role.

Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him."

Sounds like Stifler's wrong on this one! McC even undertook a bit of Wise-ing before meeting with the lad personally.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03176/denniswise1_3176532b.jpg)
If Stifler told me the sky was blue, I'd have to check.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Collage on Thursday 14 January 2016, 07:36:31 AM
Don't expect him to start games.

Cheers Steve.
Just heard from a reliable source that McClaren never wanted him, he did want Shelvey though.

Fairly impressive lying to the player then.

Quote
Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him.”

Slightly different but still...

“When I flew in on Monday, the club presented me to Kevin Keegan.

“He talked to me in a bit of detail about his plans for the footballing development of the club.

“That was an important moment for me in my decision to accept this incredible turn of events.

“I just can’t believe he won’t be there when I get back from international duty.

“The words might be cliched but it has always been my dream to play in English football.

“That has been the case since I was a kid.”


- Xisco.

Was that other c*** that did it, no?

Aye I'm fairly sure there was nothing too shady about the Xisco deal, as far as KK was concerned (besides the fact he probably didn't know that much about him)? Gonzalez was the real issue? Could be wrong.

Aye, "Nacho" IIRC
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallace on Thursday 14 January 2016, 08:49:48 AM
Well this club has a history of buying players that managers do not want who then refuse to play them.  It seemed to me that at times, Pardew deliberately set up players to fail just to prove a point and most if not all of them lost value as a result.  It hasn't put the club off from continuing to buy the players they want rather than the manager.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:02:54 AM
Just read the quotes in the Mirror from the man himself:

Steve McClaren held detailed talks with Saivet as the move was sealed, and he will play in a central midfield role.

Saivet said: “He (the manager) surprised me. I did not think that he would know me so well, that he would be able to speak about my game with such detail.

“He has already shown me certain sequences of mine on video that he appreciated and that are important for the Premier League, according to him."

Sounds like Stifler's wrong on this one! McC even undertook a bit of Wise-ing before meeting with the lad personally.

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03176/denniswise1_3176532b.jpg)
If Stifler told me the sky was blue, I'd have to check.

If he told me it was snowing i would still go outside to check, and i just spent 20 minutes driving in the f***ing stuff
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:06:59 AM
This picture :lol: would you trust this man as your child's trampoline coach, scouts leader etc? Not the image he must have been going for. Wears it well though and much deserved.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:18:02 AM
Joint top. 8 clear of 5th.  9 clear of Man Utd.

Still don't see Man Utd winning 7 or 8 in a row. 4th at a minimum is my hope for Leicester. Top 3 and guaranteed CL football would be amazing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: NEEJ on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:43:33 AM
Erudite.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:53:46 AM
Think we'll find out on Saturday.  Hoping to see Saivet and Shelvey starting with Wijnaldum in the no.10 role and Sissoko and Perez / Thauvin either side of him.

Horrible feeling we'll see Shelvey start with Colback though.

You just know it will be.  Minor injury or another yellow for Wor Jack is what is required.  Just so Saivet can get in the team and then prove he offers more than Colback.  If he doesn't, then we've wasted £5m on a terrible footballer. 
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mozy on Thursday 14 January 2016, 09:58:21 AM
It's not like it's total madness to give new signings a couple of weeks to bed in in training and in sub cameos until they have the responsibiity of the team on them.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Thursday 14 January 2016, 10:04:06 AM
Has McClaren played Colback as the only, main DM before though?  I don't think he has, so hopefully he won't deploy him in that role. I am feeling quite confident Shelvey will be replacing him and either Tiote will keep his place if he is still here on Saturday or Saivet will get the gig.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 14 January 2016, 10:07:52 AM
It's not like it's total madness to give new signings a couple of weeks to bed in in training and in sub cameos until they have the responsibiity of the team on them.

I would agree in most instances.  But when Colback proves to be an absolute waste of a shirt on a weekly basis.  I would advocate drastic changes. 

It could be a bit of a problem, starting two new centre midfielders.  Which is why I don't think it will happen.  But I wouldn't be against it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mozy on Thursday 14 January 2016, 10:15:43 AM
It's not like it's total madness to give new signings a couple of weeks to bed in in training and in sub cameos until they have the responsibiity of the team on them.

I would agree in most instances.  But when Colback proves to be an absolute waste of a shirt on a weekly basis.  I would advocate drastic changes. 

It could be a bit of a problem, starting two new centre midfielders.  Which is why I don't think it will happen.  But I wouldn't be against it.

I'd agree that Colback and Shelvey in particular would be an absolute car crash waiting to happen, but I don't think it's something you can hold against McClaren too much.

If Tiote is still lurking around by Saturday then I'd start him with Shelvey.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 14 January 2016, 10:17:08 AM
Agree on that.  If Tiote is still here.  He should start.  Annoying that he's back to some sort of form, just before we sell him.  But it can't gloss over the years of s*** and injuries.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Thursday 14 January 2016, 12:58:05 PM
Has McClaren played Colback as the only, main DM before though?  I don't think he has, so hopefully he won't deploy him in that role. I am feeling quite confident Shelvey will be replacing him and either Tiote will keep his place if he is still here on Saturday or Saivet will get the gig.

Agree with this. If Saivet isn't ready to come straight into the side we should hold onto Tiote for a couple more games. Colback isn't physically capable of playing as a lone DM.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 14 January 2016, 01:01:58 PM
I'd move Tiote on while his stock is relatively high. Might not get the chance otherwise. Saivet and Shelvey should come straight in, will be very disappointed if not.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jack on Thursday 14 January 2016, 02:25:24 PM
Good player, used to play as attacking midfielder or winger, but this season did well playing as center midfielder. He's a well rounded player.
He'll need some time to adapt though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 14 January 2016, 02:30:22 PM
Erudite.

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Unbelievable! on Thursday 14 January 2016, 04:10:24 PM
Good player, used to play as attacking midfielder or winger, but this season did well playing as center midfielder. He's a well rounded player.
He'll need some time to adapt though.

A luxury we can ill afford if he is to replace Tiote or one of the chuckle brothers in (defensive) central midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 15 January 2016, 01:24:35 PM
Been told hes playing DM for us by McClaren apparently
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 16 January 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: M4 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 12:41:09 PM
Been told he's involved today, or just standard good will message?

Man, I really this guy manages to be decent :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 12:48:57 PM
Been told he's involved today, or just standard good will message?

Man, I really this guy manages to be decent :lol:

You've lost hope :(
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:01:09 PM
Looked a bit lost out there today for me.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gorilla on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:01:46 PM
Looked a bit lost out there today for me.


Think it was nerves, he was dodgy when he first came on then looked a little more composed.  Reminded me a bit of tiote at one point.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Flip on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:02:07 PM
Looked a bit lost out there today for me.



He did, but not going to judge him based on today. Did well enough.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:02:39 PM
Not sure what to think really. :lol: Coming weeks will tell more, if he actually plays that is. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: r0cafella on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:02:57 PM
Looked a bit lost out there today for me.



He did, but not going to judge him based on today. Did well enough.
Aye, not judging just what I observed today
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:03:10 PM
Had one really nice bit of play, and a couple of decent interceptions. Tough first one to be thrown in as a sub.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: U2 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:06:08 PM
And this is why you cannot rely on players who have no Premier League experience to dig you out of a hole.  Needs time and we can't really afford to give it to him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:07:34 PM
:lol: because he wasn't fuckin class in his 10 minutes on the pitch having been at the club for 3 days?

Get rid imo.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Got caught a couple of times but he'll learn quickly I hope, seems an athletic lad, which will help. We'll need him in the middle if Dummett is out for a while.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: hakka on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:08:38 PM
Didn't do much right or wrong, but tough game to come in to and shine. Looking forward to seeing more of him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:08:45 PM
And this is why you cannot rely on players who have no Premier League experience to dig you out of a hole.  Needs time and we can't really afford to give it to him.

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:10:00 PM
:lol: because he wasn't fuckin class in his 10 minutes on the pitch having been at the club for 3 days?

Get rid imo.
Was on the pitch about 40 minutes like but you are correct. Not even like he was poor either
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: U2 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:10:05 PM
Oh, I'm not saying get rid or that he's a bad player or that he had a bad game.  It's just pretty clear that how alien Prem footy is to him.  And that makes the lack of understanding with his team mates more of an issue.  Something only time will fix.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Klaus on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:11:39 PM
Being harsh as f*** here, but he got out muscled on the ball a couple of times. But like has been said, we were under a lot of pressure at the time.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Looks like Cisse when he runs :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:13:01 PM
Oh, I'm not saying get rid or that he's a bad player or that he had a bad game.  It's just pretty clear that how alien Prem footy is to him.  And that makes the lack of understanding with his team mates more of an issue.  Something only time will fix.



Um ... He's been here a few days and only played less than a half. Reading a lot into that showing I think.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ExiledGeordie on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:13:05 PM

He's played all of 30 minutes or whatever it was in the premier league ffs :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:13:23 PM
Can't judge him based on his debut but will be interesting to see what happens with him in the weeks to come.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:14:00 PM
:lol: because he wasn't fuckin class in his 10 minutes on the pitch having been at the club for 3 days?

Get rid imo.

We can probably loan him back to France if we get our skates on
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mick on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:14:57 PM
I thought that he looked steady, nothing flash and no risks taken so all in all, a good enough start.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:16:20 PM
I thought that he looked steady, nothing flash and no risks taken so all in all, a good enough start.

same, got a couple of good interceptions, and seemed to take up good positions as well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:16:46 PM
Being harsh as f*** here, but he got out muscled on the ball a couple of times. But like has been said, we were under a lot of pressure at the time.

I noticed one of those. That would be something we hope doesn't stick. Need some strength in there for sure.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Odear on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:17:00 PM
Did alright, West Ham had us on the backfoot by time he came on. Made a couple of poor choices, in when to carry the ball etc, but he'll learn from that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:17:03 PM
Little bit of a mixed bag but he looks hungry, athletic and hardworking. I'm sure he'll improve.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:17:12 PM
He passed it to players surrounded by West Ham players about 3-4 times which was f***ing annoying. Hard to make an judgements tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:17:13 PM
All players new to the Premiership look surprised when they get pushed over and the ref gives them nothing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:19:32 PM
It's clear what Beautiful Day is saying. You buy proven Premier League players, ie Shelvey, they're more likely to come in and make an immediate impact, which is what we need, than a player signed from the French League. Surely that's why they cost more. Hopefully he can settle in quickly and benefit from playing next to Shelvey.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: zicomartin on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:19:40 PM
To me, it looks like he was watching our class players (Shelvey/Wijnaldum) "appear" to have more time on the ball than they actually do... and tried to play at their pace - but really, he needs to ' run and press ' with more ugency to be more effective.     

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:19:50 PM
I thought that he looked steady, nothing flash and no risks taken so all in all, a good enough start.

same, got a couple of good interceptions, and seemed to take up good positions as well.

He definitely seemed more of a holding player looking to take up intelligent defensive positions rather than diving in and leaving gaps. That I really liked a lot.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:21:18 PM
Never really noticed him, first impressions are we should have signed a 6ft5 beast instead.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:22:00 PM
I thought he was quite decent, after his first few touches. Got a couple of good interceptions in, nice Cruyff turn, comfortable on the ball. Think he could be a very useful player for us.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:22:12 PM
I thought that he looked steady, nothing flash and no risks taken so all in all, a good enough start.

same, got a couple of good interceptions, and seemed to take up good positions as well.

He definitely seemed more of a holding player looking to take up intelligent defensive positions rather than diving in and leaving gaps. That I really liked a lot.

Yeah. I think the pace caught him out a bit at first but he looked better as it wore on
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Incognito on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:23:25 PM
I thought he was quietly efficient and tidy with the ball when he got on it, which wasn't very often I know.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:26:05 PM
Didn't look great (not poor either) at first glance but he certainly didn't appear to be any worse than Colback and looks considerably more mobile.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nufcjb on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:43:29 PM
Looks like Cisse Jr. when chasing the ball, albeit a little bit bulkier.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 16 January 2016, 05:47:19 PM
I thought that he looked steady, nothing flash and no risks taken so all in all, a good enough start.

Yeah agree. Didn't see anything that would give glaring concerns. Looks fine.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sh74 on Saturday 16 January 2016, 07:00:05 PM
Never really noticed him, first impressions are we should have signed a 6ft5 beast instead.
I would of preferred this as well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toontownman on Saturday 16 January 2016, 08:27:47 PM
Looked nervy. Hopefully doesnt take him too long to adjust to the pace and physicality. Thought he was a bit dead on the ball and will need to quicken his thinking and pace of the game. Looking forward to seeing him more.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Sunday 17 January 2016, 11:39:27 AM
Did OK but looked worryingly lightweight. Might become a halfway house between Anita and Tiote but would've went with a Diame type personally.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: U2 on Sunday 17 January 2016, 11:52:11 AM
I guess he has shown in the past to be an excellent passer/user of the ball?  And that we were willing to take someone who wasn't a dominant physical force for that reason.  Plus, you know, available on the cheap.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: greydos on Sunday 17 January 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Watched the extended highlights on Sky and he looked very promising to me. He has the ability to stalk an opponent, jogging towards them effortlessly before sprinting to make the tackle when they took a dodgy touch. He also showed he can drop a shoulder in tight areas, turn and give a forward pass turning defence into attack.

There was a moment when he didn't appreciate a player was coming from behind him and so he was muscled off of the ball. I would be worried if he did realise the player was there and was actively shielding it but was a weakling, but fact was he was just taken by surprise - probably the added physicality of the premier league compared with ligue one.

The good thing about his passing range is that if opposition teams try to stamp on Shelvey to stop us playing our game others can supply Gini and the others, retaining our threat. I'm genuinely excited by him
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sh74 on Sunday 17 January 2016, 01:30:13 PM
I would of preferred a natural defensive midfielder,wasn't he a winger turned box to box centre mid turned defensive mid.  He's only played 30 odd minutes for us so its far too early to judge him. Hopefully he turns out to be a great buy and he seems like a likeable bloke.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Sunday 17 January 2016, 01:34:46 PM
Watched the extended highlights on Sky and he looked very promising to me. He has the ability to stalk an opponent, jogging towards them effortlessly before sprinting to make the tackle when they took a dodgy touch. He also showed he can drop a shoulder in tight areas, turn and give a forward pass turning defence into attack.

There was a moment when he didn't appreciate a player was coming from behind him and so he was muscled off of the ball. I would be worried if he did realise the player was there and was actively shielding it but was a weakling, but fact was he was just taken by surprise - probably the added physicality of the premier league compared with ligue one.

The good thing about his passing range is that if opposition teams try to stamp on Shelvey to stop us playing our game others can supply Gini and the others, retaining our threat. I'm genuinely excited by him

Same here. He got in a couple of good interceptions and stole the ball from West Ham players. That's what he's been bought for and I've got a feeling he's going to turn out a very canny signing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Monday 18 January 2016, 08:14:02 AM
I don't think you can make any judgements off Sky's highlights.  But he got caught on the ball a couple of times, but did make a couple of nice tackles.  He nailed someone at the edge of our box and left them in a heap.  Set up a counter attack that we nearly scored from, if memory serves?

He had half an hour on the pitch and I saw about 5 minutes of him on the highlights.  Early days.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 01:11:20 PM
Tron and Greydos summed it up well.

He did look a bit nervous for the first 10 mins or so which was totally natural given we were facing a ton of pressure and he'd have known how leaky our defense can be at times. But think he grew into it. He fancies himself as a ball player too and I think we'll see him play the ball much more intelligently than Jackie Colback.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 01:40:06 PM
Tron and Greydos summed it up well.

He did look a bit nervous for the first 10 mins or so which was totally natural given we were facing a ton of pressure and he'd have known how leaky our defense can be at times. But think he grew into it. He fancies himself as a ball player too and I think we'll see him play the ball much more intelligently than Jackie Colback.

Could be our Essien.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Did OK but looked worryingly lightweight. Might become a halfway house between Anita and Tiote but would've went with a Diame type personally.

Diame - the attacking midfielder?

But aye looked a little light weight. Early days. Better for him to start a game and feel his way into it rather than coming on when the game is at 100%
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 02:57:49 PM
I guess he has shown in the past to be an excellent passer/user of the ball?  And that we were willing to take someone who wasn't a dominant physical force for that reason.  Plus, you know, available on the cheap.
Not according to Whoscored. Lists tackling and headers as strengths.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mozy on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 03:49:41 PM
Think it's harsh to call his 30 minutes 'lightweight', there was a moment where he went shoulder to shoulder with a West ham player and completely floored him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:01:53 PM
Did OK but looked worryingly lightweight. Might become a halfway house between Anita and Tiote but would've went with a Diame type personally.

Diame - the attacking midfielder?

But aye looked a little light weight. Early days. Better for him to start a game and feel his way into it rather than coming on when the game is at 100%

I believe a midfielder should be good at both.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:22:04 PM
Did OK but looked worryingly lightweight. Might become a halfway house between Anita and Tiote but would've went with a Diame type personally.

Diame - the attacking midfielder?

But aye looked a little light weight. Early days. Better for him to start a game and feel his way into it rather than coming on when the game is at 100%

I believe a midfielder should be good at both.

Both what?

I've seen Hull a few times this season and Diame's been in the #10 position. He seems to get stuck in but doesn't strike me as a midfielder whose main concern and ability is stopping attacks and passing the ball quickly and forward. I think that's what we need alongside Jonjo. I think Colback is meant to be a hard working passer but it's always sideways. And i'm not sure what Anita is meant to be good at... same thing I suppose.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:38:20 PM
Diame played in the middle alongside Noble in his first season for West Ham, he looked good, they signed Kouyaté though and then f***ed him about a bit and got rid of him. He's not a holding midfielder but he's good defensively. I assume that's what LFEE is talking about, he certainly wasn't used as an attacking midfielder back then.

Not sure what he's been like at Hull as I haven't really paid attention, but I do want a big powerful midfielder who covers ground well and isn't scared of going into a challenge, just something about it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:39:31 PM
Did OK but looked worryingly lightweight. Might become a halfway house between Anita and Tiote but would've went with a Diame type personally.

Diame - the attacking midfielder?

But aye looked a little light weight. Early days. Better for him to start a game and feel his way into it rather than coming on when the game is at 100%

I believe a midfielder should be good at both.

Both what?

I've seen Hull a few times this season and Diame's been in the #10 position. He seems to get stuck in but doesn't strike me as a midfielder whose main concern and ability is stopping attacks and passing the ball quickly and forward. I think that's what we need alongside Jonjo. I think Colback is meant to be a hard working passer but it's always sideways. And i'm not sure what Anita is meant to be good at... same thing I suppose.

Remember him playing deeper in his Wigan days but perhaps his role has changed since then and West Ham.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:40:26 PM
Diame played in the middle alongside Noble in his first season for West Ham, he looked good, they signed Kouyaté though and then f***ed him about a bit and got rid of him. He's not a holding midfielder but he's good defensively. I assume that's what LFEE is talking about, he certainly wasn't used as an attacking midfielder back then.

Not sure what he's been like at Hull as I haven't really paid attention, but I do want a bit powerful midfielder who covers ground well and isn't scared of going into a challenge, just something about it.

This.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ujpest doza on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:49:23 PM
:lol: because he wasn't fuckin class in his 10 minutes on the pitch having been at the club for 3 days?

Get rid imo.
Asprilla was class instantly after flying in on the day, not met anyone, speaking no English and having a glass of wine with his pre match meal.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 19 January 2016, 04:51:30 PM
I always saw Diame as a s*** Sissoko :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Minhosa on Saturday 23 January 2016, 05:24:53 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: number9shirt on Saturday 23 January 2016, 05:27:14 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

Nah, Thauvin was to blame
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: RowZed on Saturday 23 January 2016, 05:33:30 PM
Didn't really see much from him except giving the ball away a few times.  Obviously needs time to get used to the pace and physicality of the English game.  Errr, which he doesn't have.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 23 January 2016, 05:37:21 PM
Some good, some bad. He's going to need time which is why Tiote shouldn't be sold if we're to have a competent DM between now and the Summer.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 23 January 2016, 08:57:15 PM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Saturday 23 January 2016, 09:42:33 PM
Tiote's proved time and time again that he's a defensive liability who contributes nothing in the opponent's half. He's got no place here, the odd good game in 20 not withstanding.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Greg on Saturday 23 January 2016, 09:53:14 PM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?

Tiote has been a absolute liability for over two years.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dinho lad on Saturday 23 January 2016, 10:06:41 PM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?

Unlike you to judge a player's ability so soon.

What was that about Demba Ba again?!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scoot on Saturday 23 January 2016, 11:36:33 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

I thought it was more the back 3 not knowing WTF to do. They didn't know whether to play offside or which one of them should go with the runner.

What did Saivet do?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Saturday 23 January 2016, 11:37:22 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

I thought it was more the back 3 not knowing WTF to do. They didn't know whether to play offside or which one of them should go with the runner.

What did Saivet do?
Got knocked off the ball easily iirc
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scoot on Saturday 23 January 2016, 11:48:57 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

I thought it was more the back 3 not knowing WTF to do. They didn't know whether to play offside or which one of them should go with the runner.

What did Saivet do?
Got knocked off the ball easily iirc

I see. The stream I Watched it on wasnt the best to be honest. Trying to tell Saivet and Gini apart was particularly difficult.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 23 January 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Looks a bit of a non entity of a player to me so far.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: merlin on Sunday 24 January 2016, 03:41:02 AM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?
I share this view...money wasted from early impressions of him. We needed a decent winger and Phillips should have been the target when Levy started messing about with silly fees for Townsend.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ujpest doza on Sunday 24 January 2016, 10:45:47 AM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?

Unlike you to judge a player's ability so soon.

What was that about Demba Ba again?!
Did you even read what I'd wrote??

I said it was a strange signing for January as he's expected to hit the ground running and change things.

If signed in the summer window he has pre season to get to know the players and establish himself.

We need a striker who can create chances himself as well as convert them, Loic Remy fits that bill and is what we need.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Flip on Sunday 24 January 2016, 10:49:32 AM
I don't really understand why we've signed this lad and would prefer a match fit Tiote.

A strange January signing, summer okay, but January when what you need is players who can hit the ground running and turn your season around?

Unlike you to judge a player's ability so soon.

What was that about Demba Ba again?!
Did you even read what I'd wrote??

I said it was a strange signing for January as he's expected to hit the ground running and change things.

If signed in the summer window he has pre season to get to know the players and establish himself.

We need a striker who can create chances himself as well as convert them, Loic Remy fits that bill and is what we need.


I don't think he was signed to hit the ground running tbh. We got injuries to both Anita and Colback who I still expected to start ahead of this guy for the first couple of weeks at the very least. I still say, play this guy over Colback any day of the week and let him adapt. We can't be much worse in central midfield than what we've been this season.

Also agree on the striker part, we need one and fast.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: biggs on Sunday 24 January 2016, 12:57:34 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

I thought it was more the back 3 not knowing WTF to do. They didn't know whether to play offside or which one of them should go with the runner.

What did Saivet do?
Got knocked off the ball easily iirc

I see. The stream I Watched it on wasnt the best to be honest. Trying to tell Saivet and Gini apart was particularly difficult.
Saivet just gave the ball away and ran into trouble from what i saw
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Minhosa on Sunday 24 January 2016, 01:56:47 PM
Hmmmm. Was he at fault for their first?

I thought it was more the back 3 not knowing WTF to do. They didn't know whether to play offside or which one of them should go with the runner.

What did Saivet do?
Got knocked off the ball easily iirc

I see. The stream I Watched it on wasnt the best to be honest. Trying to tell Saivet and Gini apart was particularly difficult.
Saivet just gave the ball away and ran into trouble from what i saw

:thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 4 February 2016, 08:12:15 AM
Yet another McClaren mistake in this game was taking him off. He was our best outfield player by a mile prior to being subbed.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Terrymac1966 on Thursday 4 February 2016, 08:49:35 AM
Are you trying to infer that McLaren doesn't know what he;s doing? Gross insubordination ... go peel some potatoes  :naughty:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scoot on Thursday 4 February 2016, 08:52:25 AM
Yet another McClaren mistake in this game was taking him off. He was our best outfield player by a mile prior to being subbed.

Exactly what i said when he took him off. He could have took any f***er else off and i wouldn't have been bothered but he decided to take the one player off who actually looked decent. Top manager.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Thursday 4 February 2016, 08:56:43 AM
If Colback is fit.  You know who will be on the bench on Saturday....

Unless of course he puts Colback at left back.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Willow on Thursday 4 February 2016, 09:04:09 AM
Yet another McClaren mistake in this game was taking him off. He was our best outfield player by a mile prior to being subbed.
Agreed
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ankles Bennett on Thursday 4 February 2016, 10:04:52 AM
Mclaren has clearly lost the plot by taking save off when he was our best outfield player.  Time for him to fall on his sword I think.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 4 February 2016, 10:07:00 AM
Yeah,thought he was about the only bright spot last night. Harsh on him to get subbed
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Thursday 4 February 2016, 10:26:47 AM
Best outfield player last night, did his defensive work well and looked composed on the ball. He was actually covering for Shelvey at times who seemed to be constantly out of position.

The only reason he was brought off was because he was an easy target or wouldn't kick up a fuss. Opitimises how much of a coward McClaren is.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Thursday 4 February 2016, 10:28:32 AM
I thought he was decent compared to the rest, but tbh he didn't look much different to Anita.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 4 February 2016, 10:44:00 AM
Thought he took the wrong midfielder off yesterday.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: AY on Thursday 4 February 2016, 11:05:32 AM
I think what shows his importance was that we were starting to get a grip of the game and lost all control when he was taken off. It was game over after that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 February 2016, 11:06:35 AM
He was our best midfield yesterday and I'd still only give him 3/9.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 4 February 2016, 12:05:32 PM
The only reason he was brought off was because he was an easy target or wouldn't kick up a fuss. Opitimises how much of a coward McClaren is.

:thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Thursday 4 February 2016, 12:49:18 PM
Was playing well, unfair to take him off and not surprised that as soon as he went off it was attack after attack from Everton. We went from poor to utter dogshit due to that substitution
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 4 February 2016, 12:52:39 PM
The only reason he was brought off was because he was an easy target or wouldn't kick up a fuss. Opitimises how much of a coward McClaren is.

Aye, it should have been one of Wijnaldum or Shelvey coming off
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 4 February 2016, 01:53:27 PM
He looked shaky in possession but his positioning and discipline etc was good. I think he'll turn out to be a good signing if we don't get relegated.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 4 February 2016, 01:54:48 PM
He looked shaky in possession but his positioning and discipline etc was good. I think he'll turn out to be a good signing if we don't get relegated.

I thought that he did at first, but seemed to calm down. He got about 82% completion i think. What I like is that he only played 6 passes backwards.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 4 February 2016, 01:56:15 PM
He looked shaky in possession but his positioning and discipline etc was good. I think he'll turn out to be a good signing if we don't get relegated.

I thought that he did at first, but seemed to calm down. He got about 82% completion i think. What I like is that he only played 6 passes backwards.

I noticed it more in the first half as well, yeah.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Thursday 4 February 2016, 01:57:16 PM
He looked shaky in possession but his positioning and discipline etc was good. I think he'll turn out to be a good signing if we don't get relegated.

I thought that he did at first, but seemed to calm down. He got about 82% completion i think. What I like is that he only played 6 passes backwards.

I noticed it more in the first half as well, yeah.

Def looked an asset if we use him right, horrible situation for him to come in to, but fair play he hasn't shirked it all, was always looking to get on the ball
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Leazes_End_Mag on Thursday 4 February 2016, 03:14:52 PM
Far better then Shelvey was last night.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 4 February 2016, 03:30:09 PM
He nips into challenges well like. I'm not used to it, a couple of times I was thinking "what you going in like that from there for?!" only for him to come out cleanly with the ball.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Eddy Chibas on Friday 5 February 2016, 06:02:06 AM
He looked shaky in possession but his positioning and discipline etc was good. I think he'll turn out to be a good signing if we don't get relegated.

I thought that he did at first, but seemed to calm down. He got about 82% completion i think. What I like is that he only played 6 passes backwards.

I noticed it more in the first half as well, yeah.

Def looked an asset if we use him right, horrible situation for him to come in to, but fair play he hasn't shirked it all, was always looking to get on the ball

Where's Dr Death and his hatchet-job massages when they're needed most, because the The Ginger Apocalypse a cometh.

(http://www.themag.co.uk/assets/jack-colback-halt-newcastle-united-nufc-650x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:28:15 PM
Going to be buzzing with confidence being replaced by a player they don't even want to keep.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:30:07 PM
Going to be buzzing with confidence being replaced by a player they don't even want to keep.

Odd decision considering he was one of the few to perform well midweek.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:36:09 PM
Pardew-esque decision.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRC on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:40:03 PM
Loan him to Marseille?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mick on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:42:04 PM
He was probably our best player during the week and then gets dropped, that's a terrible decision and is hardly going to motivate him or any other player when they come into the team and play well only to then be dropped.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 6 February 2016, 02:42:22 PM
Joke that he's dropped.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Saturday 6 February 2016, 03:10:11 PM
I like Saivet but Tiote has been pretty key for us when he's played recently. He won't be intimidated by West Brom's physical approach.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: wyn davies on Saturday 6 February 2016, 05:12:45 PM
is the market still open for Tiote? as his price may rise.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 6 February 2016, 08:05:42 PM
Surprised he was dropped but turned out to be the right decision given how well Tiote played.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BeloEmre on Saturday 5 March 2016, 09:14:23 PM
Another Graham Carr signing who the manager doesn't want to use at all. Great isn't it?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 5 March 2016, 09:15:46 PM
he's looked ok - no worse than colback and a few games on the bounce would have done him and the team no harm at all.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 5 March 2016, 09:18:25 PM
Bought as a replacement for Tiote, who doesnt play in the first place
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Saturday 5 March 2016, 09:25:55 PM
If McClaren isn't going to play him then we might as well have used the money/squad space on a centre back/left back, same applies to Doumbia
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Roger Kint on Saturday 5 March 2016, 09:49:46 PM
Should have stayed at Bordeaux, i would no doubt be £200 better off if he did they useless t***s
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: samag on Sunday 6 March 2016, 03:42:29 AM
Must be bad when Colback and Anita get games in front of you. Bet he wonders what he let himself  in for..
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Sunday 6 March 2016, 10:29:08 AM
Wonder how much Carr made off this deal?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 21 March 2016, 03:39:58 PM
Why exactly hasn't he been used after looking decent in the limited time he's been given? Against Sunderland we cried out for a defensive midfielder as they were eating up space for fun and Shelvey was being pegged deeper and deeper.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRC on Monday 21 March 2016, 04:00:01 PM
Maybe because he's not a natural defensive mid? He's played upfront, as a winger and as a number 10 in his career.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 21 March 2016, 05:36:44 PM
So we signed him to play all those positions? :lol:

Pretty sure he was signed to replace the orient-bound Tiote who suffered from a change of heart. To play in defensive midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Figures 1-0 Football on Monday 21 March 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Another signing made by the board for the manager, he'll be nothing but a utility player in the absence of Anita.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 22 March 2016, 06:18:14 PM
We should just see how he does at Winger :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 22 March 2016, 08:40:40 PM
Signing a 3ft winger turned central midfielder from France never seemed like the sharpest idea in the world when we're horrendously short of personnel there.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 01:31:53 PM
Can he actually play on the wing?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 01:38:40 PM
Maybe he can play at left back?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scotty66 on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 02:06:21 PM
Can he actually play on the wing?

If you believe Football Manager has any credibility he used to play there,and was a huge prospect in that position.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 23 March 2016, 02:07:10 PM
He was a real handful when he used to play wide.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Sunday 3 April 2016, 11:14:45 AM
Bent as f*** this like, no way Carr isn't on the take. Absolutely criminal.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Sunday 3 April 2016, 11:15:05 AM
Bent as f*** this like, no way Carr isn't on the take. Absolutely criminal.

:thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Leazes_End_Mag on Sunday 3 April 2016, 11:15:25 AM
Where even is this f***er?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 4 April 2016, 01:13:07 PM
He is obviously nowhere near good enough. another complete waste of money, just like the rest of the midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dinho lad on Monday 4 April 2016, 01:14:47 PM
He is obviously nowhere near good enough. another complete waste of money, just like the rest of the midfield.

Why? Because Stephen Taylor is good enough? Because Anita is good enough? Because Cisse is good enough??
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Monday 4 April 2016, 01:15:49 PM
He is obviously nowhere near good enough. another complete waste of money, just like the rest of the midfield.

Why? Because Stephen Taylor is good enough? Because Anita is good enough? Because Cisse is good enough??

Don't have a clue what you are on about here, all those mentioned are f***ing s****.  Not sure what point you are trying to make?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 4 April 2016, 03:08:07 PM
Really needed a fullback.  What a waste.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Monday 4 April 2016, 04:13:09 PM
He is obviously nowhere near good enough. another complete waste of money, just like the rest of the midfield.

Why? Because Stephen Taylor is good enough? Because Anita is good enough? Because Cisse is good enough??

I'm also very confused by this post, can only assume you're in a timezone where drinking is not frowned upon at this hour.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 4 April 2016, 04:24:31 PM
Must be absolutely s**** like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Monday 2 May 2016, 03:50:04 PM
Good signing. :lol:

Must admit i'm curious to see what he can do.  He didn't look that bad in the few appearances he's had.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thomas on Monday 2 May 2016, 03:52:16 PM
Good signing.
(http://i.imgur.com/8J0nL8c.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 2 May 2016, 03:52:28 PM
An added benefit of Rafa staying would be the end of us dipping into that f***ing godawful league for a while.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 2 May 2016, 03:53:01 PM
This f***er should be the death knell for Graham Carr like. Hopefully we stay up and can just put the entire club in Rafa's hands.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 2 May 2016, 03:54:42 PM
An added benefit of Rafa staying would be the end of us dipping into that f***ing godawful league for a while.

Leicester are about to win the league thanks largely to two players signed from Ligue 1 and Ligue 2. We just need to stop signing s****.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:02:01 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:06:23 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

Mahrez from Le Havre in Ligue 2 and Kante from Caen in Ligue 1. A long with Vardy (signed from a Conference team) their 3 best players this season. Proof you shouldn't rule out signing players from anywhere.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Greg on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:06:42 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

Riyad Mahrez.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lenny on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:07:44 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

The three players that have all but won Leicester the league absolutely haven't played top level football most of their careers :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:08:27 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

The three players that have all but won Leicester the league absolutely haven't played top level football most of their careers :lol:

Exactly :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Marmoset on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:12:30 PM
Nothing wrong with taking punts on promising players from inferior leagues, the problem comes from basing your whole transfer strategy on it like last summer. Our balance has just been all wrong.

You need a certain amount of players comfortable in this league to help the others adapt and be there in case the riskier signings flop, not even world beaters just steady pros.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Greg on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:13:29 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

This is bollocks btw, Schmeichel, Morgan, Drinkwater, Vardy is a main part of their core and they are all in only their second full season in the top flight. The same can be said of Kante (only one season in the French top division before this season).

Only really Huth, Kante and Fuchs have, even Simpson has played half of his career football in the second tier.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

Riyad Mahrez.

:thup:

We need to look elsewhere, though. It's a completely different pace and standard of football and our insistence on buying players from there, especially for key positions, is one of the biggest reasons we've been so hopelessly fragile since returning to the PL. I'd much rather we looked at Spain, Holland and here.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:15:59 PM
Nothing wrong with taking punts on promising players from inferior leagues, steady pros.

We don't though. We buy their average players and always will with our self-imposed budget constraints.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Greg on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:16:36 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

Riyad Mahrez.

:thup:

We need to look elsewhere, though. It's a completely different pace and standard of football and our insistence on buying players from there, especially for key positions, is one of the biggest reasons we've been so hopelessly fragile since returning to the PL. I'd much rather we looked at Spain, Holland and here.

I agree. We only seem to sign players from the same management company as well. Dodgy as f***. Needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:17:18 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

The three players that have all but won Leicester the league absolutely haven't played top level football most of their careers :lol:

Exactly :lol:

And again, that argument would hold water if this season isn't the glaring exception to the norm we all know it is.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Inferior Acuña on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:18:24 PM
We should look at players from everywhere and anywhere but think there's probably truth in that you need some kind of core with Premier League experience.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lenny on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:18:37 PM
Ligue 2, who's that?

Either way. Leciester have a core that have played top level football for most of their careers and Mahrez is an outstanding exception.

The three players that have all but won Leicester the league absolutely haven't played top level football most of their careers :lol:

Exactly :lol:

And again, that argument would hold water if this season isn't the glaring exception to the norm we all know it is.

This is true, but that's not what you argued.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:22:34 PM
I think it's just more to do with poor scouting than the French league being poor itself. If we bought Mahrez instead of Cabella, Payet instead of Thauvin, Kante in midfield we wouldn't be having this conversation. We obviously shouldn't be exclusively buying players there though
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toon25 on Monday 2 May 2016, 04:55:24 PM
Was a strange signing, this.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 2 May 2016, 05:00:57 PM
Was a strange signing, this.

Was clearly bought with Tiote leaving in mind. Probably done nothing to persuade Ashley to buy before selling, this one. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Zero on Monday 2 May 2016, 06:17:43 PM
Honestly i wouldn't be surprised that Carr received some payment from that management company for this transfer. 
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Monday 2 May 2016, 06:20:04 PM
I thought he looked OK when he played, at least as good as Colback.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Monday 2 May 2016, 06:21:04 PM
We've seen about 10 minutes of him though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 2 May 2016, 06:23:51 PM
He was our best player at Everton, hasn't been seen since.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 2 May 2016, 08:14:06 PM
He was our best player at Everton, hasn't been seen since.

It doesn't necessarily mean that Rafa's written him off, he might just want to go with experience given the position we're in. He went with Taylor over Lascelles until it was obvious that would relegate us within a few games. If Rafa stays it will be interesting to see whether he brings him into the team or moves him on.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Tuesday 3 May 2016, 12:21:16 PM
Tbh, it's hard to be a better defensive midfielder than tiote when tiote suddenly decides he fancies it again, there's a reason everyone loved him in the first place
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 3 May 2016, 01:30:04 PM
You don't half post some s***, like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Anon on Thursday 18 August 2016, 07:45:36 AM
Off to St Etienne. Quality signing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 18 August 2016, 07:51:18 AM
Not sure he got a chance but has to be up there on Carr's list of flops.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Menace on Thursday 18 August 2016, 08:32:56 AM
Makes no sense. He was decent vs Everton?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 18 August 2016, 08:39:17 AM
We have way too many player who just seem to come here on holiday and leave, its strange we don't even try them when the rest aren't performing particularity well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:04:37 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:09:01 AM
In the 45 minutes of football he played for us, he actually looked pretty decent, then was just never seen again. Weird signing :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:15:09 AM
Well, he contributed more than Ferrerya :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:23:32 AM
FFS man.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ads on Thursday 18 August 2016, 09:48:36 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 

That's nonsense. How can he possibly be an awful signing based on what was a very decent 45 minutes!?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Anon on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:25:09 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 

That's nonsense. How can he possibly be an awful signing based on what was a very decent 45 minutes!?

Because none of his managers deemed him good enough to play?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ads on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:40:43 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 

That's nonsense. How can he possibly be an awful signing based on what was a very decent 45 minutes!?

Because none of his managers deemed him good enough to play?

What did you make of his performance against Everton?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Anon on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:47:06 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 

That's nonsense. How can he possibly be an awful signing based on what was a very decent 45 minutes!?

Because none of his managers deemed him good enough to play?

What did you make of his performance against Everton?

I'm not in charge of deciding whether he's good enough to play so it's irrelevant.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Leazes_End_Mag on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:49:58 AM
Although it was only 45mins, i'd rather he started in CM over Colback and Anita who seem to get far more chances to impress and always fail to do so.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:54:08 AM
Awful signing.  Glad it looks like he's be off the wage bill. 

That's nonsense. How can he possibly be an awful signing based on what was a very decent 45 minutes!?

Because none of his managers deemed him good enough to play?

What did you make of his performance against Everton?

I'm not in charge of deciding whether he's good enough to play so it's irrelevant.

Aye. For whatever reason he's not been chosen by 2 managers now. That's a waste of money. Not even on the bench. Only Riv & Saivet have seen zero game time under Rafa I believe. Speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Thursday 18 August 2016, 10:55:26 AM
Although it was only 45mins, i'd rather he started in CM over Colback and Anita who seem to get far more chances to impress and always fail to do so.

Must be a reason for this. I imagine both Colback and Anita work hard in training. Anita might even look like a decent footballer in training sessions. To be given zero chances under Rafa and replaced by a kid in his role speaks volumes
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morgs on Thursday 18 August 2016, 11:48:48 AM
Does he speak english?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 18 August 2016, 11:59:34 AM
It does seem weird like, I thought he may have been tried out on the wing (or at LB). It seemed a daft signing at the time though, but he must have looked stupidly bad in training.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Pilko on Thursday 18 August 2016, 12:04:24 PM
Not sure why he hasn't even been tried after some decent early cameos like.

(https://65.media.tumblr.com/f0f8a9311c5bc16581e013a530645204/tumblr_mk6stkiTFh1s3afiuo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Yorkie on Thursday 18 August 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Ridiculous how many times this has happened.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ohmelads on Thursday 18 August 2016, 12:36:34 PM
Mitrovic, Thauvin, Cabella, Riviere, Cabaye, Debuchy, Ben Arfa, Sissoko.

All represented by MSM (Mondial Sports Management).

Guess who Saivet is represented by? The very same agency.

Thauvin, Cabella, and Saivet (and, aside from MSM, you could add Doumbia and Ferreyra) all came and left while barely getting on the pitch, with other clubs (and agents) profiting from it with loan deals. In the case of Marseille, the very club we bought from. I don't know why they didn't get a chance but clearly something dodgy is going on. Let's also not forget that Keegan quit the club and took it to court (and won) after Ignacio Gonzalez was signed on loan "as a favour to agents".
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: dabe on Thursday 18 August 2016, 12:46:42 PM
I preferred the halcyon days of Fumaca myself.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Thursday 18 August 2016, 12:46:42 PM
If shady agent deals really are behind useless players coming here, let's hope Rafa taking charge will be the end of it. Although tbh it seems endemic in the game, and we've just appointed one of the biggest scam artists as our national manager.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 18 August 2016, 01:23:01 PM
No doubt there are loads of situations like this in football. It's s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Si on Friday 19 August 2016, 02:37:01 PM
Surely it's just dodgy scouting and naive business on our part.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: timeEd32 on Friday 19 August 2016, 03:00:27 PM
If we still had a shitty manager I'd definitely think he never got a fair chance, but since I trust Rafa I'm just going to assume he's pretty s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Friday 19 August 2016, 03:07:55 PM
Our club took advantage of having a wonderful working relationship with MSM, is all I see here, to the detriment of the player's careers (not their bank accounts) and our club results. Shame.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Friday 19 August 2016, 03:31:30 PM
He's still here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/28465025474/
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Monday 22 August 2016, 04:01:21 PM
Medical tomorrow at ASSE according to reports.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Monday 22 August 2016, 04:03:27 PM
Medical tomorrow at ASSE according to reports.
He should only be able to join them if he has a:

(https://i.gyazo.com/7e337fdf58dc56ca5c2c45fe4d30530d.png)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Monday 22 August 2016, 06:45:34 PM
😂 Dat ASSE
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Monday 22 August 2016, 08:06:42 PM
has to be one of the worst transfers of all time for this club
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: palnese on Monday 22 August 2016, 08:11:19 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Monday 22 August 2016, 08:15:06 PM
So do French clubs not earn any money or something? They all cry poor when it comes to paying a fee. We seem to just loan players back to them with the hope of getting a transfer fee in a year.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 23 August 2016, 02:04:44 AM
Is this loan official now?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: shintonsghost on Tuesday 23 August 2016, 06:58:49 AM
Is this loan official now?

Not till today ive read
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:02:01 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqnlnnhXYAAtYAa.jpg)

Official.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:04:26 PM
Farewell sweet prince
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wullie on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:04:40 PM
Such an odd transfer from start to finish.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallace on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:06:58 PM
That could be anyone as far as I am concerned.  I have no idea what he looked like and the only way I would have identified him amongst our players would have been by a process of elimination.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:07:39 PM
What a waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:08:09 PM
Up there with Batty & Lee for me like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Marmoset on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:08:10 PM
Again, such a weird signing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: hakka on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:13:27 PM
Panic signing, utterly stupid by us.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jayson on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:17:51 PM
Its a loan without an option to buy. Why we saying farewell? Is it not likely Rafa just isnt sure he'll cope in this league & wants to see how he does given consistant games?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Rocker on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:22:10 PM
All for this. Clearing the decks for capable incomings.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: hakka on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:25:05 PM
Its a loan without an option to buy. Why we saying farewell? Is it not likely Rafa just isnt sure he'll cope in this league & wants to see how he does given consistant games?

McClaren gave up on him based on what felt like only 90 minutes of play across two games at a guess, and Rafa didn't bother with him at all. Writing seems to be on the wall that he's not wanted at all. This is just the start of his full exit.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:38:59 PM
What a waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:42:16 PM
Wearing 11 for them, wonder if he's going back to being a winger?!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:43:33 PM
We love a pointless signing like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:44:44 PM
Farewell sweet prince

:lol: always makes me chuckle
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Marmoset on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 12:45:25 PM
File alongside Doumbia, Ireland and Chucky I guess.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: arnonel on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 01:00:45 PM
Think we need a "anonymous 11" thread - where Saivet will be starting DM, with Doumbia as striker etc
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Unbelievable! on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 01:09:07 PM
Meh. At least we haven't sold or loaned out Colback, or Anita for that matter.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 24 August 2016, 02:18:19 PM
St Etienne have loaned Veretout from Villa too. Their two CMs both relegated from PL last year
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Monday 29 August 2016, 11:04:09 AM

Made the team of the week
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Odear on Monday 29 August 2016, 06:45:28 PM
A thought occurred to me just now, I wonder if these ill fated moves are by design?

What if Henri had been a naughty boy using ped's or just something straight forward like class a's.. his agent as a favour gets us to make a bid, let the f***er hide in the reserves for a few months.. then send him back to France with a clean bill of health.. it's not out of this world to imagine something like that happening.

I refuse to believe the man could have been any worse than the likes of Colback in the week to week training.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Monday 29 August 2016, 06:46:24 PM
James?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Si on Monday 29 August 2016, 07:11:26 PM
A thought occurred to me just now, I wonder if these ill fated moves are by design?

What if Henri had been a naughty boy using ped's or just something straight forward like class a's.. his agent as a favour gets us to make a bid, let the f***er hide in the reserves for a few months.. then send him back to France with a clean bill of health.. it's not out of this world to imagine something like that happening.

I refuse to believe the man could have been any worse than the likes of Colback in the week to week training.
I think it's to give time for the human skin to grow over his lizard replacements body.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: JS on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 02:55:55 PM
Quote
Henri Saivet opens up on Rafa Benitez - and why 'English players' were picked over 'foreigners'

Newcastle United signed Henri Saivet from Bordeaux in January, but the midfielder struggled on Tyneside and is back on loan in Ligue 1

Newcastle United flop Henri Saivet has labelled Rafa Benitez as a “great coach” - but claims the Spaniard sometimes focuses “too much” on tactics.

The 25-year-old midfielder joined the Magpies from Bordeaux in January but made just four league appearances - and none under Benitez - before returning to Ligue 1 on a season-long loan to Saint-Etienne last month.

Saivet was recruited by chief scout Graham Carr as a replacement for Cheick Tiote , but the latter’s move away from Tyneside in January broke down and then both Steve McClaren and Benitez opted to field him ahead of their new recruit.

And the Senegal international admits Benitez faced a “complicated” challenge once he arrived at St James’ Park with just 10 games to go last season - and alleges that the United boss was put under pressure to play “English players” ahead of “foreigners”.

“Benitez is a great coach,” Saivet said during an interview with France Football.

“He focuses on tactics. A little too much at times, but he is a great coach.

“When he arrived, the group was lost, low on confidence and there were just 10 matches remaining.

“It was complicated for him.

“The leaders had asked him to play the English players. It’s like that there.

“They even said that the Championship was for the English players, not foreigners.

“Because they like to play every three days, they like to fight well.


“We foreign players, if we were given the confidence, we could have done that.”

Formerly a winger, Saivet was shifted into central-midfield at Bordeaux during his final 18 months at the club and made his limited appearances for Newcastle there too.

In his first appearance back in France with St-Etienne, Saivet was named in L’Equipe’s Ligue 1 Team of the Week and he concedes that he found the pace of the Premier League difficult.

However, he is adamant that, given more time on the field, he would have adapted to the English game.

“The pace is different,” Saivet added.

“It does not stop, there is no stoppage time.

“But it does not bother me. This is a type of football that I like.

“I needed a couple of matches to get up to the rhythm and know the team.

“But they did not give me the time to show anything.

“When you sign a player, the goal is to put it in the best possible conditions.

“I watched my matches several times with a specialist.

“I wondered why I did not play more.”

Quote
Henri Saivet claims he never planned to leave Bordeaux for Newcastle United - and admits he felt “useless” during a “horrible” eight months on Tyneside.

The Magpies signed the Senegal international in January in a £4.5million deal, but Saivet managed just four league appearances in all before being shipped out to Saint-Etienne on loan this summer.

Interestingly, however, Saivet claims he intended to buy a new house in Bordeaux and, when he returned from holiday during the French winter break, was surprised to see a transfer to Newcastle was close to being finalised.

“I had not planned to leave [France],” Saivet told France Football about his move to Newcastle.

“The proof? I was planning move and buy me a new home in Bordeaux but, when I returned from vacation, I was told there was a lot of stress for me and that if I wanted to leave, I could.

“I came back from holiday with the desire to start well and I was told that a transfer was happening.”

When chief scout Graham Carr recommended United should sign Saivet in January, it was anticipated that Cheick Tiote would depart and the Senegal international would fill the central-midfield void.

However, Tiote’s move away broke down and then both Steve McClaren and his successor Rafa Benitez opted for the Ivorian ahead of Saivet.

And the 25-year-old admits it was extremely difficult to sit on the sidelines and watch on.

“I had been recruited to play and I was not playing - it was hard,” he added.

“I had the impression of being paid to do nothing.

“It was horrible. You’re there, you’re useless.”

Last month, Saivet secured a season-long loan move to St-Etienne and he was named in L’Equipe’s Ligue 1 Team of the Week following a successful debut.

He believes he has chosen the right club, despite claiming he received a rival offer from Marseille.

“It’s a place you want to be, it feels really good,” Saivet said of St-Etienne

“Marseille also wanted me but I chose the Greens.

“I want to go far in the Europa League to further grow the club and why not be third [in the league] and play the preliminary round of the Champions League?”

Asked if he had been determined to only return to France, Saivet responded: “No, not necessarily.

“I would have liked to have continued in the Premier League, but it’s hard to find a base when you have not played much.

“This opportunity of Saint-Etienne, it’s good.

“It is a stable club, they have played in the European Cup for many years.

“It is progressing well, that’s the ideal.”

Interesting quote about the hierarchy. Shame this lad never had more game time, he looked pretty decent when he actually played.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Did he really? I seem to remember him doing f*** all.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Andy84 on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:02:34 PM
Too much focus on tactics? Love Rafa me
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: palnese on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:04:29 PM
s*** c***
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Conjo on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:05:13 PM
By "English players" he really means Jack Colback, right? :lol:

I liked this bit:
“I watched my matches several times with a specialist.

“I wondered why I did not play more.”

I agree, and I like the fact that he did this to improve. Wouldn't mind giving him another shot. Seems like a decent guy.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:27:23 PM
If Rafa doesn't fancy him above Jack Colback I'm willing to bet he's probably just s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:33:42 PM
Quote
“The leaders had asked him to play the English players. It’s like that there.

“They even said that the Championship was for the English players, not foreigners.

“Because they like to play every three days, they like to fight well.

“We foreign players, if we were given the confidence, we could have done that.”

Who's he talking about when he refers to the leaders? I'm pretty sure Rafa can make his own mind up, if he's not playing Saivet then he didn't rate him or just felt he wasn't ready. Still, I like that he thought he would have got stuck in given a chance.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 03:37:15 PM
As if Benitez lets anyone tell him who to play, silly boy Henri..
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 04:12:08 PM
Not sure why it's so accepted that Rafa is a supreme man of principle that would never take direction from above. Sure he's a step up from the Pards & McClarens of this world, but if he was all that principled a man he wouldn't have come here in the first place.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 05:18:42 PM
As long as he's given full control why should he have any issue with what's happened here in the past?  Its nowt to do with principles anyway, the fact is Benitez is a control freak (in a good way).  He's not going to spend all week working out the best way to win a match only for Mike Ashley to tell him he has to change his plans because he fancies some English players for some bizarre reason.  Its nowt but excuses from Saivet.

The leaders simply told him that Jack must play due to that contact agreement :shifty:

Aye that was pretty funny, no idea how anyone believed it really, obviously rubbish even before it was proven beyond all doubt as rubbish this season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallace on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 05:40:12 PM
Some of that is probably lost in translation.  It does imply that Rafa was asked to play English players but that makes no sense when the club kept buying foreign players.

But there is a lot of truth (hierarchy = authorities?) in what he says if he is perhaps talking more generally about the perceived (media) consensus that we went down because we did not have enough English players - it was something the media and ex pros (Rob Lee anyone) banged on about repeatedly even when we had more Brits playing.  And certainly, the media are of the opinion that the foreign players wouldn't be able to hack the Championship.   They even say Rafa will struggle because he is does not know the Championship despite several foreign managers getting promoted in recent years.

It is mystifying why Saivet hardly played.  From the little we saw, he did not disgrace himself and he was never given a chance to adapt.  I guess a relegation battle is not the best place to do that but even so, you would think he might have been in the matchday squad more.  Maybe his attitude was poor in training.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 05:41:40 PM
I have no idea whether Saivet is lying or not. But we've lied to managers about them getting full control in the past, so I don't find it all that preposterous that rafa might take the odd instruction/ bit of guidance from above.

I'm just stunned by how well you seem to know Rafa, and how you know exactly what he would or wouldn't do, should his boss ask.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ally on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 08:05:44 PM
That English b****** Benitez
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 08:46:48 PM
Our most played team this season includes Sels, Anita, Mbemba, Dummett ( :shifty:), Ritchie ( :shifty:), Gouffran, Diame.

ALL THE ENGLISH

Don't know what the f*** he's onabout as it was similar last season too, I doubt he's lying, as that would be weird, so I can only assume he was being bullied by Jack Colback.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 08:48:04 PM
I have no idea whether Saivet is lying or not. But we've lied to managers about them getting full control in the past, so I don't find it all that preposterous that rafa might take the odd instruction/ bit of guidance from above.

I'm just stunned by how well you seem to know Rafa, and how you know exactly what he would or wouldn't do, should his boss ask.
Pretty certain he's not letting them pick his teams like :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 08:49:17 PM
I assume something has been lost in translation somewhere and he means players with experience in England, not English players.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 09:10:51 PM
I don't imagine anyone other than rafa is picking the team, but that doesn't mean he isn't getting suggestions from above, and potentially paying attention to them.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mighty__mag on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 09:11:59 PM
Quote
“The leaders had asked him to play the English players. It’s like that there.

“They even said that the Championship was for the English players, not foreigners.

“Because they like to play every three days, they like to fight well.

“We foreign players, if we were given the confidence, we could have done that.”

Who's he talking about when he refers to the leaders? I'm pretty sure Rafa can make his own mind up, if he's not playing Saivet then he didn't rate him or just felt he wasn't ready. Still, I like that he thought he would have got stuck in given a chance.

Carr? Charnley? Ashley? Some hierarchy.

The lad obviously sees and hears more than anyone not associated with the club.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Foluwashola on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 09:16:11 PM
Marveaux must have given him his notes on how to whinge in the press. You were peddled because you were s**** mate, jog on.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 09:50:48 PM
I have no idea whether Saivet is lying or not. But we've lied to managers about them getting full control in the past, so I don't find it all that preposterous that rafa might take the odd instruction/ bit of guidance from above.

I'm just stunned by how well you seem to know Rafa, and how you know exactly what he would or wouldn't do, should his boss ask.

Howay.. you don't need to be his mate to know how the guy works, what his mentality is.  Go and read some articles about him, its clear the kind of manager he is.  Its also not as if he needed our job desperately enough to bend over backwards for us, we needed him far more than he needed us.  Honestly this guy picking his team based on orders from Mike Ashley or Charnley is about as believable as Colback having a "must play every game" clause in his contract.

As far as why Saivet has said that.  Like others have said could be lost in translation.  Or could be the fact that its much easier to pass off the opinion of some owner than a big name like Benitez "wasn't Rafa that didn't want to play me, nah he was forced not to by the people above because they're English and want more English players".  Or he might even have heard it, still doesn't make it true.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scotty66 on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 09:59:47 PM
Still think he did absolutely fine when he played and baffled as to why he didn't get a look in. Maybe his attitude in training was p*ss poor as Rafa (rightfully) wouldn't stand for that.

However if he worked hard in training and showed he wanted to play then it's very strange. In less than 90 minutes game time he played better than Colback had in an entire season. One game he was very tidy,keeping his position well and passing forward.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 10:04:47 PM
He looked OK in one game. Given our CM options if Rafa has no time for him he must just be abject, which, to be fair, his career before coming here would probably substantiate. No need to look too far into it. Another godawful Carr signing who'll leave for peanuts in a year or two.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Tuesday 6 September 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Still think he did absolutely fine when he played and baffled as to why he didn't get a look in. Maybe his attitude in training was p*ss poor as Rafa (rightfully) wouldn't stand for that.

However if he worked hard in training and showed he wanted to play then it's very strange. In less than 90 minutes game time he played better than Colback had in an entire season. One game he was very tidy,keeping his position well and passing forward.

I thought he looked ok in the small amount of playing time he had under McClaren, but only very fleeting showing before Benitez even arrived.  I think Rafa was trying to pick a side that had plenty of Premier League experience and players who he could drill the basics into to form a solid unit, taking no risks in the very small amount of games we had left.  Hence why the likes of Shelvey didn't play much, that was my feeling at the time anyway.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Wednesday 7 September 2016, 06:12:34 PM
Either sour grapes or just genuinely  astounded that Colback got picked ahead of him and trying to put some sort of reasoning behind it. Sounds horrendous getting paid thousands for nothing too, the poor lamb
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hhtoon on Thursday 8 September 2016, 07:08:40 AM
He's referring to the premiership more so assume he's talking in the main about last season. Don't find it unbelievable that for the 10 games last year Rafa came in to the role with some suggestions which he took on board, seeing he joined mid-season with limited knowledge of the squad.
Expect the new contract put paid to any of that and he maybe thought Saivet wasn't right for the championship. He has erred on the side of proven 2nd tier experience in a few areas.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Saturday 7 January 2017, 10:46:33 AM
Looking forward to seeing him play today

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-v-newcastle-united-12418495
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 7 January 2017, 10:58:10 AM
Looking forward to seeing him play today

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-v-newcastle-united-12418495

Read conflicting reports on this
on twitter suggesting he's on a season long loan and currently at the afcon but it's... well Twitter.

Anyone know what's going on with this?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Saturday 7 January 2017, 11:05:48 AM
He's with Senegal at the ACON ffs :lol:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BO64BCsBy6c/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BO65IDqhm88/

"Birmingham Mail" have a Lee Ryder type then
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: chopey on Saturday 7 January 2017, 01:36:05 PM
Paperback Ryders all over local sport journalism
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Sunday 15 January 2017, 09:27:47 PM
Not the greatest review:

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2017/01/15/we-expected-more-president-confirms-flopped-newcastle-loanee-means-dipping-into-market-needed/321792/
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: duo on Sunday 15 January 2017, 09:44:30 PM
Always thought it was a strange singing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 15 January 2017, 10:25:32 PM
I am glad we've retained Graham Carr. :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 19 January 2017, 08:50:37 PM
Scored for Senegal tonight
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HawK on Friday 20 January 2017, 09:13:13 AM
I am glad we've retained Graham Carr. :thup:

Tbf on this one, wasn't it the St Etienne president who said they signed him on loan off the back off some really impressive performances from Bordeaux? The logical conclusion to this is that he went backwards since joining us.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ronaldo on Sunday 22 January 2017, 05:17:57 PM
Alternatively, we signed yet another fairly cheap player from a vastly dissimilar style and pace of football, and just hoped for the best.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Figures 1-0 Football on Tuesday 4 July 2017, 06:59:34 PM
Back in training yesterday - do we see any sort of future for him? He cant be worse than Colback, surely?

How did he even get on last season? Cant say I saw St Etienne once to be fair.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Seymour on Tuesday 4 July 2017, 07:52:46 PM
Hes s****, hopefully some french team will loan him
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toontownman on Tuesday 4 July 2017, 08:35:56 PM
If you combined callbacks effort with saviets skill set we would be a brain away from having a good player.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 07:22:21 AM
Thought he did alright in the one game I saw him play :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 07:40:09 AM
Thought he did alright in the one game I saw him play :lol:

same here :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 10:28:03 AM
For what little I saw of him he was probably our best player against Everton yet was bizarrely subbed. Then against Man Utd for ST Etienne he seemed to play almost as a 10 and seemed to cause them a few problems with a lively performance on the counter attack in the first game.

If it was a choice between him and Colback I'd take a chance with this lad simply on the basis we know what we are getting with Colback and it isn't good enough.
Title: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:17:40 AM
Still ain't a clue why we turned a #10 and winger who played then centrally prior to sighting him into a all out DM when he first signed :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:32:47 AM
Still ain't a clue why we turned a #10 and winger who played then centrally prior to sighting him into a all out DM when he first signed :lol:
One of the most bizarre signings, even during this weird period of the club. No one seemed to know why he was signed or what his best position is.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:34:26 AM
He was signed because Colback and Anita had been one of the worst pairings of all time.  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:36:21 AM
He was signed because Carr got a nice case of wine, box of cigars and a long weekend at a chateau retreat out of it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hughesy on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Papavasiliou on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:51:06 AM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

 :snod:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wilson on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:52:26 AM
Class for me...on FIFA.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:52:33 AM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 11:58:50 AM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.

This basically.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Seymour on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:18:40 PM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.
Or they have also seen him play in the French league...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hughesy on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:22:42 PM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.

Or Rafa could quite easily have thought that he wasn't suited to the Championship?  Hardly a massive stretch to decide he was best suited to a season on loan.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:28:42 PM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.

Or Rafa could quite easily have thought that he wasn't suited to the Championship?  Hardly a massive stretch to decide he was best suited to a season on loan.

This has been said about De Jong as well but honestly, any player who can't manage the Championship isn't likely to do much in the Premier either.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:32:22 PM
We didn't need them last season and saved a few pennies on wages. They'd both have been in and around the team last season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:45:50 PM
As has been said before, Rafa likes to keep a compact squad. At that time Krul was coming back from injury, Saivet was probably suffering a crisis of confidence and De Jong was coming back from long-term injuries. It made more sense to loan them out so they could regain fitness/confidence than it did to keep them around, because we had to hit the ground running in the Championship.  It mightn't be a case of Rafa not rating them, more that he felt other players were likely to be first-team ready imminently.  Now that they're back he can take a second look at them in a full pre-season and decide if they warrant being part of his squad.

I'm just speculating though, he might just think they're all s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 12:53:06 PM
We didn't need them last season and saved a few pennies on wages. They'd both have been in and around the team last season.
We didn't need midfielders last season?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 01:38:14 PM
We didn't need them last season and saved a few pennies on wages. They'd both have been in and around the team last season.
We didn't need midfielders last season?

The fact we're champions suggests no. But £80k of players on the bench in the Championship is huge. Got some wages off the books, still came up easily, this season £80k a week for two squad players isn't as big a hit.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 01:55:01 PM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.

Or Rafa could quite easily have thought that he wasn't suited to the Championship?  Hardly a massive stretch to decide he was best suited to a season on loan.

Hhmm, if you can't play in the championship then you are royally f***ed for the premier league. How can a player not be suited for the championship but be fine for the premier league? It's just a much shitter league, that's the only difference.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 01:58:03 PM
Don't know how anyone can really have formed a meaningful opinion on him, given he has played 147 minutes for us.  Might be a player in there somewhere and I trust Rafa to make a judgment on him after a full pre season.

Just like he did last summer and then farmed the f***er out.  Didn't even have him in mind for the Championship.

Or Rafa could quite easily have thought that he wasn't suited to the Championship?  Hardly a massive stretch to decide he was best suited to a season on loan.

Hhmm, if you can't play in the championship then you are royally f***ed for the premier league. How can a player not be suited for the championship but be fine for the premier league. It's just a much shitter league, that's the only difference.

Bit of a flippant point that, there'd be lots of examples to be honest if I were to spend some time thinking about it. The Championship is more physical, more is let go by the refs, less is spotted by the refs. It generally makes it harder for more intricate players to prosper. Not making any particular reference to Saivet here mind, just the general point you're making.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 03:35:11 PM
The whole Championship is more physical is a total myth. There are extra games to be played which adds to it i suppose, but the league itself is no more physical than any other. that line is normally brought out instead of just saying that the league is s****. Any player who can perform in the premier league is capable of dropping down to that division with no problem. Can't think of any examples nevermind lots. I am sure when Rafa sent those players out on loan last season it wasn't because he thought they are a little too intricate for the championship and he will welcome them back with open arms once we are back up. He was sorting the wheat from the chaff.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HawK on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 03:39:21 PM
The whole Championship is more physical is a total myth. There are extra games to be played which adds to it i suppose, but the league itself is no more physical than any other. that line is normally brought out instead of just saying that the league is s****. Any player who can perform in the premier league is capable of dropping down to that division with no problem. Can't think of any examples nevermind lots. I am sure when Rafa sent those players out on loan last season it wasn't because he thought they are a little too intricate for the championship and he will welcome them back with open arms once we are back up.He was sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Is this why all players are suited to all leagues then?

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 03:52:35 PM
The whole Championship is more physical is a total myth. There are extra games to be played which adds to it i suppose, but the league itself is no more physical than any other. that line is normally brought out instead of just saying that the league is s****. Any player who can perform in the premier league is capable of dropping down to that division with no problem. Can't think of any examples nevermind lots. I am sure when Rafa sent those players out on loan last season it wasn't because he thought they are a little too intricate for the championship and he will welcome them back with open arms once we are back up. He was sorting the wheat from the chaff.

It is a more physical league. Players don't get the protection from referees that they do in the Premier League. That could be because the standard of officiating is s*** or because the refs just don't pander to players hitting the deck at the slightest touch. Either way, it is more physical. That said, any player who has the ability to perform in the Premier League should, in theory, be able to do even better in the Championship. Doesn't always work like that though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 03:53:29 PM
The whole Championship is more physical is a total myth. There are extra games to be played which adds to it i suppose, but the league itself is no more physical than any other. that line is normally brought out instead of just saying that the league is s****. Any player who can perform in the premier league is capable of dropping down to that division with no problem. Can't think of any examples nevermind lots. I am sure when Rafa sent those players out on loan last season it wasn't because he thought they are a little too intricate for the championship and he will welcome them back with open arms once we are back up.He was sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Is this why all players are suited to all leagues then?



Well it would work the other way around. Not all players in the championship could step up, because there is a huge difference in quality, but to say players who can play in the premiership would not be able to play in the championship it utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 03:55:22 PM
find the idea that rafa thinks he's not suited to the champo but might be ok in the premo a hard one to accept personally, unless they've scouted him for st. etienne and had a better look at him this last year

most likely rafa doesn't rate him at all
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: The College Dropout on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 04:00:23 PM
find the idea that rafa thinks he's not suited to the champo but might be ok in the premo a hard one to accept personally, unless they've scouted him for st. etienne and had a better look at him this last year

most likely rafa doesn't rate him at all

Aye. The Championship is more physical but also a significant drop in standard. More time on the ball, more limited opponents etc.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 04:17:39 PM
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/henri-saivet-flopped-newcastle-now-12459360

The St. Ettiene president was having a whinge about him in January, so unless his form dramatically improved in the latter half of the season, its just likely nobody wants him and we're stuck with him. Pointless signing all in all.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 04:43:24 PM
Is every French president a total gobshite?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 04:54:25 PM
The article mentions 1 goal and 1 assist in 11 games. Stats Jackie dreams of.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Odear on Wednesday 5 July 2017, 05:05:36 PM
He seems like a player who doesn't know where he wants to play, let alone a manager making that call.

I suppose if anything, Benitez will have a week to see this lot up close (Saivet, De Jong, Rivière, Krul, Toney) before making final decisions.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dokko on Friday 7 July 2017, 08:12:30 PM
Was never given a real chance, probably less than any player we've recently signed...and who failed.

He was billed as a cheap mans Kante....former winger turned central mid with defensive qualities...not even sure if any of that is true we saw that little of him.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:15:38 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFC360/status/885457502145531904
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Skeletor on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:18:30 PM
Need to get Kevin Nolan or Patrick Kluivert back to coach him then.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:19:38 PM
Well that will make it easy to offload him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:42:53 PM
A playmaker?  I thought he was more of a CM.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Thursday 13 July 2017, 12:47:46 PM
They used him as an attacking midfielder where he kind of was when he first came through. He started off playing out wide initially and then some behind the striker too I believe.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Papavasiliou on Thursday 13 July 2017, 01:00:21 PM
They used him as an attacking midfielder where he kind of was when he first came through. He started off playing out wide initially and then some behind the striker too I believe.

So they loaned in a winger that converted to a CDM and now they're complaining he wasn't a playmaker too?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Thursday 13 July 2017, 01:15:38 PM
He just sounds like a nothing player. Not enough attacking attributes to be a forward, too lightweight to be a midfielder. Sounds like he has very little character as well if what Galtier says is true.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: thenige on Thursday 13 July 2017, 01:42:48 PM
Was s*** hot on FM about five years ago as an AMR/AML, pacy and skillful. Maybe as he's got older he's got lazier so has been converted to a 'sitting' midfielder due to his lack of work rate.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tiotes Witch Doctor on Friday 14 July 2017, 02:46:27 AM
Would still play even a wax statue version of him over Colback though that's for sure.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Friday 14 July 2017, 01:55:58 PM
At least we gave him a 5.5 year deal.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 14 July 2017, 10:10:14 PM
Played well tonight. Hopefully see more of him before we get rid, if we do
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sir Toon on Friday 14 July 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Played well tonight. Hopefully see more of him before we get rid, if we do

Aye, Im sure I saw him run at least once as well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 15 July 2017, 01:36:33 AM
Would still play even a wax statue version of him over Colback though that's for sure.

He's Defo worth a try instead of JC. Even tonight JC was grabbing shirts when caught out of position.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: La Parka on Saturday 15 July 2017, 07:19:53 AM
Such a random signing. Hope he comes good wherever he's meant to play!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 15 July 2017, 12:13:39 PM
Would still play even a wax statue version of him over Colback though that's for sure.

He's Defo worth a try instead of JC. Even tonight JC was grabbing shirts when caught out of position.

If we play games this season with Dummett, Gouffran and Colback I won't be able to take it. At least we don't have Taylor and Colo I suppose.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ujpest doza on Saturday 15 July 2017, 07:53:15 PM
he had a good game last night.
got stuck in, made space for himself well and played some canny balls.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Skeletor on Saturday 15 July 2017, 07:55:37 PM
he had a good game last night.
got stuck in, made space for himself well and played some canny balls.


I guess time will tell. The only other game I remember him playing was against Everton where he was decent too but there's definitely something about the lad if multiple managers of different clubs think he's not up to much.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: duo on Saturday 15 July 2017, 08:08:43 PM
he had a good game last night.
got stuck in, made space for himself well and played some canny balls.
Didn't see the game but heard he did well - Mr Ryder gave him 5 though - was he even there lol ?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Saturday 15 July 2017, 09:46:46 PM
he had a good game last night.
got stuck in, made space for himself well and played some canny balls.
Didn't see the game but heard he did well - Mr Ryder gave him 5 though - was he even there lol ?

With an almost copy and paste of Gautiers words.

Basically written every weeks rating for the lad already regardless on how he plays
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BrickTop on Wednesday 23 August 2017, 11:14:28 PM
Actually thought he had some bright spells tonight when he wasn't being completely thick. Still needs shipping off without a moment's hesitation though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: jimmymag on Wednesday 23 August 2017, 11:18:05 PM
Actually pulled off a Bergkamp in midfield. Not sure how Colback got the nod over him based on tonight's performance.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 23 August 2017, 11:26:35 PM
he had a good game last night.
got stuck in, made space for himself well and played some canny balls.


I guess time will tell. The only other game I remember him playing was against Everton where he was decent too but there's definitely something about the lad if multiple managers of different clubs think he's not up to much.

Multiple managers loved Colback till Benitez. We know there's nowt about him though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 23 August 2017, 11:27:55 PM
Played as our #10 from 45 minutes onwards tonight which I wasn't expecting. His corners were pretty poor
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Wednesday 23 August 2017, 11:50:20 PM
Was terrible on tonight's showing. Motivated or not.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: midds on Thursday 24 August 2017, 12:30:09 AM
Nowhere near as bad as I thought he'd be. In fact I thought he was quite bright and showed a bit tonight.

He's no Zidane but he's got ability and could do a decent job for another club.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Leazes_End_Mag on Thursday 24 August 2017, 01:12:30 AM
Craig Hope said that this guy's performance reminded him of Kante [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Thursday 24 August 2017, 06:06:28 AM
:lol:

The commentators (even Ando!) were saying he had a good second half when he was more advanced.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: U2 on Thursday 24 August 2017, 07:11:48 AM
He was playing against a Nottingham Forest B team.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: jimmymag on Thursday 24 August 2017, 08:45:47 AM
He was playing against a Nottingham Forest B team.

Shhhh!. Shop window man!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 24 August 2017, 08:49:25 AM
He was playing against a Nottingham Forest B team.

Shhhh!. Shop window man!

Was a ten-bob note, 20p mix-up, and a pack of Donnay socks. Mix-up now off the table.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: pinkeye on Thursday 24 August 2017, 09:20:23 AM
I was very surprised last night, especially in the second half.

When he swapped over with Diame so that Diame played the holding midfield role and Saivet moved into the No 10 position quite a bit started to click for us.  The question has been asked already on this thread about how previous (and current) management of NUFC have played Colback ahead of Saivet is beyond me.

He is not amazing but, he is certainly not rubbish!

If we didn't sell him this summer I would not be devastated to see him play again.

Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 24 August 2017, 09:23:29 AM
He was playing against a Nottingham Forest B team.

Shhhh!. Shop window man!

Was a ten-bob note, 20p mix-up, and a pack of Donnay socks. Mix-up now off the table.

Oh naughty. You've combined pre-decimal currency with decimal currency; you might get a denominational...you know...from mixing the two
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Altamullan on Thursday 24 August 2017, 09:54:58 AM
He was playing against a Nottingham Forest B team.

Shhhh!. Shop window man!

Was a ten-bob note, 20p mix-up, and a pack of Donnay socks. Mix-up now off the table.

Oh naughty. You've combined pre-decimal currency with decimal currency; you might get a denominational...you know...from mixing the two
Flexibility. If there's one thing I have learned from my extensive (virtual) experience of contractual negotiations in football, it's that flexibility is key. The F word; Lee, please take note (and f*** let's chuck  a velvet bag of doubloons in the mix... iron pyrite ones).
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:03:20 PM
Hope he takes his chance today like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:05:13 PM
Hope he's secretly amazing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Varadi on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Hope he's secretly amazing.

:lol: Was just thinking that - imagine if we get a performance like Tiote's debut?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:11:27 PM
Would love it, but away from home in a two man midfield with his partner being Diame? Tough ask. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kimbo on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:27:55 PM
You can do it Henri!!!!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: tinoasprilla on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:30:08 PM
when ive seen him for Senegal he plays as a number 10. Be worth a shot there. Would rather have mbemba or perez playing than Joselu
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:31:48 PM
Saivet + Diame could be the answer. The midfield answer to the double Demba.

(or not)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: reefatoon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:34:15 PM
Writing this game off I see
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 02:49:31 PM
Saivet for a rainy day
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:07:09 PM
f***ing dick
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:08:27 PM
This lasted well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Pilko on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:10:11 PM
f***ing dick

f***ing class
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:10:36 PM
This lasted well.

This lasted well.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: persy on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:11:07 PM
Hahahahaha amazing
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ikon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:11:11 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Si on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:11:20 PM
Saviwaaaaay
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: High Five o/ on Saturday 23 December 2017, 03:11:34 PM
GOAT
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:53:08 PM
Legend
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:54:55 PM
Only saw the second half but looked brilliant defensively
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:55:21 PM
Passing was rusty, but thought he was excellent defensively after his mistake.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Think its safe to say he hasnt had a fair chance at all. Lot of energy about him. Hope this isnt a one time thing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:55:41 PM
Like a new signing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:56:39 PM
Apart from the early error he was fine, enjoyed watching him too, good looking lad like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: ManDoon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:57:48 PM
Thought he was really good and a good sign of his mentality that he rectified the mistake and just got on with his game
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:59:07 PM
Saivet  :aww:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:59:24 PM
I wonder if Rafa will consider him for more regular action now? He f***ing wants to.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 23 December 2017, 04:59:34 PM
Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRvIxRuWAAEf3Oq.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:00:07 PM
How did he play overall?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRvIxRuWAAEf3Oq.jpg)

Class :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:01:22 PM
Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRvIxRuWAAEf3Oq.jpg)
:lol: Get that meme'd
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: High Five o/ on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:01:43 PM
Legends
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: persy on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:02:15 PM
"We got this"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: huss9 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:05:15 PM
think he's better than hayden.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:07:08 PM
This lasted well.

This lasted well.
[emoji38]
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:07:54 PM
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:08:13 PM
Henri certainly knows how to saiv-et for big occasions :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:09:49 PM
Did well not to let his head drop. Would've easy for him to hide after the mistake. He's weak as p*ss but did alreet for me.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: wormy on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:10:10 PM
Henri certainly knows how to saiv-et for big occasions :thup:

It's a big occasion for him just to get on the pitch. :lol:

Aside from the error and goal, how was he? Good overall?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Get the man a new contract. One of those 8 year Pardew specials will do just nicely.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:10:53 PM
Henri certainly knows how to saiv-et for big occasions :thup:

It's a big occasion for him just to get on the pitch. :lol:

Aside from the error and goal, how was he? Good overall?

Excellent defensively asides from his early mistake.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: wormy on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:13:32 PM
Henri certainly knows how to saiv-et for big occasions :thup:

It's a big occasion for him just to get on the pitch. :lol:

Aside from the error and goal, how was he? Good overall?

Excellent defensively asides from his early mistake.

Seemed promising in his few and far between appearances. Hope to see him get more chances.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:13:36 PM
He looked like he wanted the ground to swallow him after that f*** up. Looked dead. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:14:32 PM
He's much better than Shelvey defensively.  Wouldn't mind seeing him next to Merino.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:16:30 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if he's out of the squad again for the next game. Rafa's not one for changing his mind on a player.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:17:32 PM
Would've been easy for him to throw a Colback instead of grafting in training too. Well done Henri.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:18:00 PM
Colback was actually getting games ahead of this guy man. Damn.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:18:01 PM
Absolutely shocking that he has more goals for us than Shelvey this season.

He played well and deserves another shot, IMO.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:18:51 PM
Absolutely shocking that he has more goals for us than Shelvey this season.

He played well and deserves another shot, IMO.

And Ritchie  :(
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:19:42 PM
After that f*** up he did well. Would keep him in for City.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: St1pe on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:20:58 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if he's out of the squad again for the next game. Rafa's not one for changing his mind on a player.

Surely Atsu is proof against that? Rafa played Gouffran over him for most of our Championship season and he now starts every game.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:22:10 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if he's out of the squad again for the next game. Rafa's not one for changing his mind on a player.

Surely Atsu is proof against that? Rafa played Gouffran over him for most of our Championship season and he now starts every game.

I hope so, just seems strange that Saivet wasn't even considered, Atsu was at least involved most of last season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:31:26 PM
Would've been easy for him to throw a Colback instead of grafting in training too. Well done Henri.
Aye must be awful to not get a chance for so long. Fair play
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:31:55 PM

Rumour has it he can spell too.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:32:27 PM
Absolutely shocking that he has more goals for us than Shelvey this season.

He played well and deserves another shot, IMO.

And Ritchie  :(

Ritchie's not got hold of his shots at all this season. Been really wasteful in good positions.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Saturday 23 December 2017, 05:33:52 PM
He's hit the post twice the last 2 games and forced a few good saves like, Ritchie. Shelvey's shooting has been p*ss poor.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jordan on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:11:13 PM
Never really understood his lack of chances. Hes looked half decent every game ive seen him play for us
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jesse Pinkman on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:19:21 PM
Felt so sorry for him when he gave away that pass. He looked absolutely beside himself. Glad he didn’t drop his head.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kaizero on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:21:44 PM
Everything's coming up Saivet!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:22:53 PM
Fair play to the fella like, he could have f***ed up the free kick and dropped his head even further too after that mistake, but picked himself and the team up by making his opportunity count. Hayden, Shelvey and Merino might need to look over their shoulders a bit, which can only be a good thing. Particularly Shelvey from what I can gather...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:29:05 PM
Where did he play?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:30:34 PM
Be nice if we could count him as a reliable option in midfield.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:31:25 PM
Where did he play?

CM I believe...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:33:20 PM
Where did he play?

CM I believe...
Like many I've never understood how he's been given so few chances. Remember when we played colback ahead of him? f*** me :anguish:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ketsbaia on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:46:20 PM
When Saivet had his initial run, I don't even think he was THAT bad. Hell, we've seen worse on a consistent basis, yet this guy with the good attitude was banished to the reserves?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:49:37 PM
The only time i remember seeing him play was away at Watford when we'd just signed him.  I thought he did ok but i remember a few people coming out of the ground saying he was s****.  It's weird how he hasn't really had a chance though.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Hughesy on Saturday 23 December 2017, 06:49:37 PM
Might seem a bit revisionist, but I don't remember him being particularly bad for us.  Just never really got a run in the team.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:14:12 PM
Not shocked by our fans slagging off new signings immediately as s***, weak, etc. when many of them had barely a look or played for horrendous managers in low confidence teams.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Parky on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:16:29 PM
Impressed with him today bearing in mind he hasn't had much competitive football.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:36:17 PM
Plays until end of the season, has a superb World Cup for Senegal, sell him for £50mil
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:48:50 PM
His display today was heroic, coming from no where and messing up within a few minutes it was already another bad story waiting to happen, but he picked both himself and the team up and contributed to  the win, really happy for him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Klaus on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:52:37 PM
How was his general gameplay? Excluding the mistake and goal of course.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: midds on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:54:21 PM
Competition for places is never a bad thing. Him coming in from the deep freeze will have naturally got the attention of Hayden, Shelvey and Merino. From most accounts he went about his business rather well all things considered, those three will need to try and oust him now, up their game or they'll be the ones on the bench or left at home completely. Perform or you'll be replaced, it's harsh but it's helping the club.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:57:38 PM
How was his general gameplay? Excluding the mistake and goal of course.

Put himself about a lot. I don't recall us having the ball in central midfield positions much tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sadnesstan on Saturday 23 December 2017, 07:58:35 PM
Henry Serviette did a good job hovering up loose balls, mopping up at the back ad generally soaking up the pressure. He had Juan Sheet all game and he cleared the wall and wipe the smile off West Ham's faces.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: gdm on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:01:07 PM
Henry Serviette did a good job hovering up loose balls, mopping up at the back ad generally soaking up the pressure. He had Juan Sheet all game and he cleared the wall and wipe the smile off West Ham's faces.

Nah, you are trying too hard there
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:01:38 PM
He will get judged against city unfortunately, not today.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: samptime29 on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:15:33 PM
Responded well after mistake. Was important we went in level. Important goal.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ndegwa on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:28:29 PM
Henry Serviette did a good job hovering up loose balls, mopping up at the back ad generally soaking up the pressure. He had Juan Sheet all game and he cleared the wall and wipe the smile off West Ham's faces.

why
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BergenMagpie on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Never understood why we sent him on loan and relied on colback. Hope he gets a chance to stay in the team/squad
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: afar on Saturday 23 December 2017, 08:56:36 PM
Pleased for the lad, especially after that early clanger, him and Diame really should be proud of themselves this evening, the played big parts in the win.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:02:58 PM
He’ll get another start and look like dogshit. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Robster on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:07:44 PM
Looked crestfallen after that mistake. :(
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:08:24 PM
The pass was to absolutely no one even if Arnautovic hadn't have been there. Daft sod.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:08:33 PM
Never understood why we sent him on loan and relied on colback. Hope he gets a chance to stay in the team/squad

We got the bulk of a high-ish wage off the bill for a season when we didn't really need him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dokko on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:09:38 PM
Never understood why we sent him on loan and relied on colback. Hope he gets a chance to stay in the team/squad

We got the bulk of a high-ish wage off the bill for a season when we didn't really need him.

He was told off Rafa something like the championship isn’t for a player of your type before loaning him out.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:16:13 PM
He just retweeted this:


:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: alijmitchell on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:34:40 PM
As much as I like the fact he's getting a bit of love, anyone who sings a version of that s*** chant deserves to be set on fire. I f***ing hate it
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:36:26 PM
Love a lush warm Fostaz on the train.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:40:28 PM
Love a lush warm Fostaz on the train.

Amused me on the train a couple of weeks ago to see people struggling a bit with the availability of disposable carrier bags these days. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Heron on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:46:39 PM
I don't really like the song itself but it works and if it's positive then so be it. With the squad we have and relative lack of quality they need songs as pick me ups...
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mighty__mag on Saturday 23 December 2017, 11:50:07 PM
Only seen the motd highlights. Appalling pass for the goal we conceded. Was he actually meant to take the free kick, or did he just take it from Ritchie? Either way he redeemed himself.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: tinoasprilla on Sunday 24 December 2017, 12:03:50 AM
blatantly meant to take it! not disputable and cracking strike hope he gets a bit of a chance
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Sunday 24 December 2017, 05:53:54 AM
Love a lush warm Fostaz on the train.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Sunday 24 December 2017, 06:34:17 AM
Only just seen his free kick and it was outstanding. Terrific strike.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Sunday 24 December 2017, 06:38:17 AM
Looks proper shy and canny.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Sunday 24 December 2017, 12:33:37 PM
Henry Serviette did a good job hovering up loose balls, mopping up at the back ad generally soaking up the pressure. He had Juan Sheet all game and he cleared the wall and wipe the smile off West Ham's faces.

why

:lol: :lol:

Oh and Saivet was great defensively after his howler. Neither he nor Diame got on the ball much. But Saivet was really sound defensively. Was often in the right place to make a tackle or clearance.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Sunday 24 December 2017, 05:19:16 PM
I thought trains were dry coming back from London on matchdays? Anyway I hope we see more of him
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Sunday 24 December 2017, 05:49:29 PM
I thought trains were dry coming back from London on matchdays? Anyway I hope we see more of him
Think that policy got knocked on the head about a year ago.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HTT on Sunday 24 December 2017, 05:56:54 PM
Showed responsibility taking the free kick and had a good game outside of his howler.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: HTT on Sunday 24 December 2017, 05:57:16 PM
s*** player just like most of them mind, let’s not kid ourselves.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sh74 on Sunday 24 December 2017, 06:11:09 PM
Like a new signing.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dinho lad on Sunday 24 December 2017, 07:43:21 PM
Was more pleased with his reaction than his goal! :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: danny on Sunday 24 December 2017, 07:47:41 PM
Pleased for the lad, he came back and recovered in the best possible way,  but its a no from me time to move on
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Sunday 24 December 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Sunday 24 December 2017, 07:56:46 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Sunday 24 December 2017, 08:16:41 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
So? ???
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scoreboard82 on Sunday 24 December 2017, 08:34:29 PM
I thought trains were dry coming back from London on matchdays? Anyway I hope we see more of him
Thankfully  they've  stopped the dry train thing for now. Transport police  were on board and were called to one of the carriages on our train back last night. There was also an announcement  to stop people smoking from the windows of the train doors at one of the  stations.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:02:27 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:06:26 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.
It was an amazing free kick. Wtf.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LV on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:06:33 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

:lol: it was right in the corner. A pretty damn good free kick.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:07:23 PM
It was bang in the bottom corner and hit the ground just as it passed him. Would have taken a brilliant save.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:09:59 PM
Tbf I do think the keeper could and should have done better, but to say that it wasn't a good free-kick is just ridiculous :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Geordie Ahmed on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:17:01 PM


Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

Perhaps some question marks over the keepers starting position BUT that free kick was class, absolute bang on and bounced at the right spot.

It was a horrific mistake BUT he had a good game after that
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: RS on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:23:40 PM
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: madras on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:24:10 PM
It was a great free kick. One that  when we score it's great but if we concede the same then the keepers crap.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: madras on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:25:31 PM
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Speed isn't everything though I Think hebshoykd bebgivr more of a chance.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Raconteur on Sunday 24 December 2017, 09:25:51 PM


Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

Perhaps some question marks over the keepers starting position BUT that free kick was class, absolute bang on and bounced at the right spot.

It was a horrific mistake BUT he had a good game after that

The commentators on the feed I was watching went on and on about what poor goalkeeping it was - his footwork was all wrong, meaning he mistimed his dive across the goal.

I thought it took the gloss off a bit, but Saivet couldn't have placed it any better, and quite simply he bested the keeper.  Maybe it wasn't Roberto Carlos v France, but for us it was, because of how important the goal was for Saivet and the team in the context of both the match and the season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Monday 25 December 2017, 08:55:27 AM
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Speed isn't everything though I Think hebshoykd bebgivr more of a chance.

:lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: NEEJ on Monday 25 December 2017, 09:22:49 AM
Someone check on Maddy. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Toon No9 on Monday 25 December 2017, 09:41:33 AM
It was a horrible mistake for the first goal. It was a wonderful freekick.
The rest of his game was ok. No more, no less.
His passing was no good but his workrate was. 6/10 for me.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 1964 on Monday 25 December 2017, 02:59:28 PM
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Speed isn't everything though I Think hebshoykd bebgivr more of a chance.

I was just about to ramble the same thing  :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: gdm on Monday 25 December 2017, 03:49:00 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

Judging by the replies and my own eyes you are talking nonsense
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 25 December 2017, 08:53:25 PM
Hate it when people just straight up invent bullshit to support their position. Hate Saivet fair enough but that free kick was near perfect tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: KaKa on Monday 25 December 2017, 09:03:20 PM
The placement was outrageous. Low and right in the corner. Not sure many keepers would have saved that at all.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Greg on Monday 25 December 2017, 09:17:56 PM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

Your mate blobby would have saved it eh?

It was a very good free kick.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Tsunami on Monday 25 December 2017, 09:19:22 PM
It was a really good free kick; unspectacular but far better than it looks. Doesn’t make him a PL player.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Slim on Monday 25 December 2017, 10:47:35 PM
Tbh keeper should have done better but similar to Alonso's and people are full of praise for that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Teasy on Monday 25 December 2017, 11:34:15 PM
Keeper could have done better and STILL not saved it.

f***ing hell, do some people think that basically hitting the goal line with the ball is a good height for a keeper to save like? :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: madras on Monday 25 December 2017, 11:48:20 PM
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Give the lad a run in the team. He seems quick enough.
Speed isn't everything though I Think hebshoykd bebgivr more of a chance.

I was just about to ramble the same thing  :lol:
Oh come on you know what I meant to put. Typing in the dark while watching the tele and p*ssed....pretty much as now!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Twinport53 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 12:31:51 AM
Poor. If Elliot had let in that free kick there would have been meltdown on here.
What?

It wasn't a particularly good free kick which the keeper should have saved. It shouldn't be used to gloss over a thoroughly average display and a horrendous mistake for their first goal.

Imagine watching us score a goal, and your first thought is "Il use that to defend blob". Get to f*** man :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 12:45:17 AM
Looks proper shy and canny.
He really does. [emoji38] He was probably the most visibly gutted player I've seen after he was at fault for their first.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 10:17:34 AM
Hate it when people just straight up invent bullshit to support their position. Hate Saivet fair enough but that free kick was near perfect tbh.

Why would anyone hate Saivet? He hasn't had a chance to do anything :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 11:28:00 AM
It wasn't the best goalkeeping tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 11:44:44 AM
For some inexplicable reason I love this guy. I'd like to shake his hand, he seems to have a canny manner about him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Altamullan on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 12:21:13 PM
For some inexplicable reason I love this guy. I'd like to shake his hand, he seems to have a canny manner about him.
Nice. But hand shaking seems a bit tame/ restrained for love.... how about eating his s***?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 12:55:22 PM
Looks proper shy and canny.
He really does. [emoji38] He was probably the most visibly gutted player I've seen after he was at fault for their first.
He looked like he want the ground to collapse beneath him, then when he scored was more relieved then happy :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 01:13:35 PM
Looks proper shy and canny.
He really does. [emoji38] He was probably the most visibly gutted player I've seen after he was at fault for their first.
He looked like he want the ground to collapse beneath him, then when he scored was more relieved then happy :lol:

Big balls to step up and take that free kick tbf. And maybe an intlligent decision to take it the way he did. You see so many embarrassing free-kicks that had he tried to be special he could have really humiliated himself, and the crowd could have given him a hard time.

So maybe we have a bold and intelligent player. Still not entirely convinced because obviously he hasn't been demonstrating that to Rafa.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Consortium of one on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 01:15:29 PM
The free kick was damn near f***ing perfect.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 01:24:41 PM
For some inexplicable reason I love this guy. I'd like to shake his hand, he seems to have a canny manner about him.
Nice. But hand shaking seems a bit tame/ restrained for love.... how about eating his s***?

I like to start at ground level and work my way up. Build the foundations. Besides, he seems a timid, quiet character and hand-shaking is great.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Altamullan on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 02:15:54 PM
 :clap: one of the few remaining true gentleman.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 02:37:15 PM
Difficult to tell from watching highlights, but the goals apart, did he actually look effective?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 02:43:35 PM
Difficult to tell from watching highlights, but the goals apart, did he actually look effective?
Good defensively I thought. Kept getting into the right positions to get interceptions and clearances
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 02:47:43 PM
Difficult to tell from watching highlights, but the goals apart, did he actually look effective?
Good defensively I thought. Kept getting into the right positions to get interceptions and clearances

Cheers. Might stay in the reckoning for tomorrow's game then.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 02:59:53 PM
Looks proper shy and canny.
He really does. [emoji38] He was probably the most visibly gutted player I've seen after he was at fault for their first.
He looked like he want the ground to collapse beneath him, then when he scored was more relieved then happy [emoji38]
I would imagine he's spent 18 months or whatever trying to gain Rafa's favour and then he does that. I'd feel exactly the same tbh.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 03:06:29 PM
Difficult to tell from watching highlights, but the goals apart, did he actually look effective?
Good defensively I thought. Kept getting into the right positions to get interceptions and clearances

Aye, his positioning defensively impressed me, much better than what we've been seeing recently from our other CM's.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 03:52:57 PM
:clap: one of the few remaining true gentleman.

Dancing & kissing next. You can't beat dancing & kissing, such a classic combination. Such great.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 03:55:06 PM
Play Saivet and Merino?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 03:56:35 PM
Play Saivet and Merino?

I would like to see this tried out.

Or Saivet & Shelvey for alliteration reasons only.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 04:02:15 PM
Saivet and Merino could work. Saivet sitting deeper letting Merino get forward a bit more.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 04:23:14 PM
Saivet and Merino could work. Saivet sitting deeper letting Merino get forward a bit more.

Aye, I would like to see that.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 04:57:18 PM
Shelvey is a sub for me going forward. Rather sell him.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: nemtizz on Tuesday 26 December 2017, 05:04:15 PM
If Elliot had scored that free kick you’d still find a reason to criticise him, losers.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 27 December 2017, 07:29:41 PM
Rip Henri, was nice seeing you for one game.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Wednesday 27 December 2017, 07:31:05 PM
That story pass did for him
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Wednesday 27 December 2017, 09:57:15 PM
Think we'll see him against Brighton. I'd like to see him in there with Merino. SURELY, Diame can't still be starting.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 27 December 2017, 09:58:33 PM
Think we'll see him against Brighton. I'd like to see him in there with Merino. SURELY, Diame can't still be starting.

Don't think Diame is playing bad but no way can his legs handle another game so soon.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 28 December 2017, 10:07:43 AM
Think we'll see him against Brighton. I'd like to see him in there with Merino. SURELY, Diame can't still be starting.

Don't think Diame is playing bad but no way can his legs handle another game so soon.

Thought he was very ordinary indeed against Citeh. Did well against West Ham, but so very slow in thought and deed.

Anyway - Saivet and Merino, yes please :thup:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 1964 on Thursday 28 December 2017, 11:58:33 AM
Watching Diame sometimes is like seeing someone who has won a raffle to play for Newcastle
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 29 December 2017, 10:17:58 AM
Was there a reason given why he wasnt involved against Man City?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Friday 29 December 2017, 10:21:49 AM
Watching Diame sometimes is like seeing someone who has won a raffle to play for Newcastle
He's very ungainly - like a giraffe on roller skates - which doesn't do him any favours in addition to the languid style. Think Saivet deserves a chance personally.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Friday 29 December 2017, 10:35:41 AM
Was there a reason given why he wasnt involved against Man City?

Probably not playing for months on end then expecting to play two games in four days
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: RS on Friday 29 December 2017, 01:19:54 PM
Watching Diame sometimes is like seeing someone who has won a raffle to play for Newcastle

He's like Tino meets The Wrong Trousers.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 29 December 2017, 02:01:59 PM
Was there a reason given why he wasnt involved against Man City?

Probably not playing for months on end then expecting to play two games in four days
No reason for him not to have been on the bench though
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Friday 29 December 2017, 02:04:34 PM
Instead of who?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sh74 on Saturday 30 December 2017, 09:08:05 AM
Rafa was asked why Saivet wasn’t involved after the Man City game and he said something on the lines of he wanted the best players available for that match.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: U2 on Saturday 30 December 2017, 09:08:56 AM
Seems like a s*** comment that didn't need to be made.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Mr Logic on Saturday 30 December 2017, 10:26:57 AM
Like most of your posts then.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Away Day Gadgie on Saturday 30 December 2017, 11:42:30 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Saturday 30 December 2017, 02:06:13 PM
Thanks for the goal, enjoy spending forever back in the reserves.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:24:51 PM

Oh great, a loan.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:27:15 PM

Oh great, a loan.
Gets wages off, to maybe get a loan in ourselves?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:27:44 PM

Oh great, a loan.

It's all about squad space and wages though, given that we're only looking at bringing in loans ourselves.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Fenham Mag on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:27:46 PM
RIP.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:29:59 PM
At least he made a contribution this season.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:31:39 PM
Prefer to give away/shoot Colback.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:46:37 PM
It'll bite us. Colback will be called upon this season while he's out on loan, just like last year.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:47:29 PM
It'll bite us. Colback will be called upon this season while he's out on loan, just like last year.
Fairly certain Barlaser will play before Colback. :lol:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kimbo on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:48:21 PM
We make some weird signings. This guy seemed to have no future at the club from very early on, despite not looking particularly bad. Meanwhile some donkeys get dozens of chances.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: xLiaaamx on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 02:54:57 PM
We make some weird signings. This guy seemed to have no future at the club from very early on, despite not looking particularly bad. Meanwhile some donkeys get dozens of chances.
This happens at almost all clubs. English football loves cloggers who look like they work hard when in reality, it's just a myth they work any harder, just it's all they can do.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Amir_9 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:33:33 PM
Farewell, Bon Voyage, thanks for the memories..
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Shearergol on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:34:55 PM
Farewell, Bon Voyage, thanks for the memories..

It'll fall through.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:35:26 PM
Personally I think we need him, but if it frees up a space for a signing...
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: jackyboy on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:37:58 PM
from what I saw I thought he could be okay, sorry to see him go
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:41:11 PM
Maybe him and Rafa agreed for him to play against West Ham to put him in the shop window.

You play well and you get your move kinda agreement.  Would explain why he was looked devastated when he gave away the goal. :lol:

Not that I really believe this.



Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:41:29 PM
I actually think he’s pretty decent :lol:
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Menace on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:44:19 PM
He's been treated like absolute s***
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:45:53 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/PsQIZwQGL5aKI/giphy.gif
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:47:34 PM
Gifs stopped working?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Rebellious on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:49:26 PM
Personally I think we need him, but if it frees up a space for a signing...

I think from what little we saw of him he is more ready for this league than Hayden. Maybe its wage related.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Wallsendmag on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:51:09 PM
Shame. Would like like to have seen a bit more of him. Showed a lot of character to get that mistake against West Ham out of his system and turn in a good performance.

Seems like Rafa has been told he needs to move a few out before he can bring anyone in.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:51:10 PM
Scored. Dropped. Sold.  :lol:
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:51:17 PM
Personally I think we need him, but if it frees up a space for a signing...

I think from what little we saw of him he is more ready for this league than Hayden. Maybe its wage related.

I guess sometimes you just need to move someone out who you can move out. Hayden obviously has a lot more long-term potential etc.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:52:26 PM
Never given a fair chance here, for whatever reason. Best for all parties he moves on tbh.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Carlito on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:53:25 PM
Scored. Dropped. Sold.  :lol:

Quite sad to be honest. He put in a good shift against West Ham and I think he's a good option for us given what we have. I wonder if him starting that game was simply to put him in the shop window?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 03:56:23 PM
We never had a chance to determine he's s***. Such a strange signing, then he scored against West Ham and never played for us again :lol:
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:00:10 PM
We never had a chance to determine he's s***. Such a strange signing, then he scored against West Ham and never played for us again :lol:

the 1 match he started he f***ed up, scored, played well throughout the rest of the match and we won away to West Ham...:lol: however dropped and never heard from again and sold. R U T H L E S S.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: timeEd32 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:22:45 PM
Clearly something weird behind the scenes seeing as he got the same treatment from McClaren and Rafa. He doesn't appear to be terrible, but happy to see him go if it means we can bring someone in who might actually play.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:24:53 PM
Rafa makes some weird decision sometimes, seems like whenever he's made his mind up about a player there is no changing it, Krul was a prime example.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:34:23 PM
Rafa makes some weird decision sometimes, seems like whenever he's made his mind up about a player there is no changing it, Krul was a prime example.

Krul was to free up wages. No doubt about that.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: afar on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:55:52 PM
I've liked what I've seen from him in a black and white shirt, obviously Rafa hasn't, it is strange when he's given game time to a lot of players who've looked far worse. Will be a shame to see him go but if he's not in the manager's plans then it's probably for the best.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: TRC on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 04:56:24 PM
Gone on loan according to L'Equipe.

Sick of us just loaning players out for a loss every year.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: a random player who doesn't even play for us any more on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:06:44 PM
ffs read this as 'lucas perez' not local press.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:07:15 PM
Gone on loan according to L'Equipe.

Sick of us just loaning players out for a loss every year.

I don't mind as long as it frees up a squad place for a signing.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:08:58 PM
Not really arsed. If it means we can get another body through the door then it might be for the better. Although it will probably be another cheap hopeful signing rather than one which could make a difference, so ultimately pointless.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:16:43 PM
Not really arsed. If it means we can get another body through the door then it might be for the better. Although it will probably be another cheap hopeful signing rather than one which could make a difference, so ultimately pointless.

Ah, Newcastle United in 2018.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: samptime29 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:17:32 PM
Not really arsed. If it means we can get another body through the door then it might be for the better. Although it will probably be another cheap hopeful signing rather than one which could make a difference, so ultimately pointless.

Ah, Newcastle United in 2018.

Exciting times for our beloved club  :lol:
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: jonny1403 on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:18:52 PM
Rafa makes some weird decision sometimes, seems like whenever he's made his mind up about a player there is no changing it, Krul was a prime example.

Krul was to free up wages. No doubt about that.

Krul hasn't played a premier league for Brighton, had no other interest in him and came off a terrible loan spell in Holland. He was great for us 5 years ago but hardly a weird decision in that context.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:23:49 PM
It'll bite us. Colback will be called upon this season while he's out on loan, just like last year.
Fairly certain Barlaser will play before Colback. [emoji38]
Not when Rafa walks and we hire Tim Sherwood
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 05:26:11 PM
Would not sell.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Dinho lad on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 07:27:41 PM
Rafa makes some weird decision sometimes, seems like whenever he's made his mind up about a player there is no changing it, Krul was a prime example.

Krul was to free up wages. No doubt about that.

Krul hasn't played a premier league for Brighton, had no other interest in him and came off a terrible loan spell in Holland. He was great for us 5 years ago but hardly a weird decision in that context.

Yep, an underachiever (albeit thanks to mainly Pardew and his team) and a deserter.

Couldn't careless about him.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Infinitely Content on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 07:58:20 PM
The Senegalese Zidane, from Bordeaux to the black & white. Keep pls.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 08:04:32 PM
Gifs stopped working?

Eh?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 08:05:38 PM
Rafa makes some weird decision sometimes, seems like whenever he's made his mind up about a player there is no changing it, Krul was a prime example.

Krul was to free up wages. No doubt about that.

Krul hasn't played a premier league for Brighton, had no other interest in him and came off a terrible loan spell in Holland. He was great for us 5 years ago but hardly a weird decision in that context.

Yep, an underachiever (albeit thanks to mainly Pardew and his team) and a deserter.

Couldn't careless about him.
Deserter?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 17 January 2018, 08:39:15 PM
I thought Montpellier hated us anyway. Or was that just their owld chairman? God rest his mental french soul.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 18 January 2018, 02:30:09 AM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/PsQIZwQGL5aKI/giphy.gif)

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On why none of our managers have rated Saivet, Galtier had this to say about him:

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“A playmaker? I thought I’d found him with Henri Saivet,” Galtier told France Football.

“But if he did not play in England, now I know why: he is no longer hungry. At all.

“We had lost sight of who he was. We concentrated on what he had done against us with Bordeaux in the days of Willy Sagnol and René Lobello. But the Henri of Bordeaux and the Henri of England were no longer the same. It’s an example (for us).”

Seems like maybe his attitude isn't right.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 18 January 2018, 02:37:38 AM
I thought Montpellier hated us anyway. Or was that just their owld chairman? God rest his mental french soul.

Louis Nicollin > Mike Ashley
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 18 January 2018, 08:09:39 AM


(http://media.giphy.com/media/PsQIZwQGL5aKI/giphy.gif)

Gifs stopped working?

Think you forgot the [ img] tags ;)

Nah, I went back and edited them to just the link when the IMG tags were just showing a blank thumbnail. Weird.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Wilson on Thursday 18 January 2018, 09:24:10 AM
Would not sell.

Aye. I literally wouldn't sell anyone without bringing people in first. We're just getting shafted again.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 18 January 2018, 10:19:13 AM


(http://media.giphy.com/media/PsQIZwQGL5aKI/giphy.gif)

Gifs stopped working?

Think you forgot the [ img] tags ;)

Nah, I went back and edited them to just the link when the IMG tags were just showing a blank thumbnail. Weird.

I had to remove the 's' from 'https' in the URL to get that one to work, it happens sometimes with giphy i've found.  Probably thomas' fault.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Darth Crooks on Thursday 18 January 2018, 10:20:48 AM
Goodbye Pancrate...I mean Henri
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Shearergol on Saturday 20 January 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Has he gone?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Saturday 20 January 2018, 10:33:38 PM
I think he's looked decent in the few times he's played. Coming from Bordeaux surely he wont be on massive wages. Strange how he's barely been used like.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 23 January 2018, 05:07:34 PM
Did this just not happen then or...?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: sadnesstan on Tuesday 23 January 2018, 07:33:11 PM
Did this just not happen then or...?

When does a transfer story involving us ever happen?
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: sempuki on Wednesday 24 January 2018, 09:38:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/NUFC360/status/956274430988247040
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 24 January 2018, 09:41:10 PM
More likely to get a fee from some Turks. Only really useful if we're bringing in a midfielder to replace him.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Sunday 28 January 2018, 08:01:28 PM
He was playing well but lost the ball to their second goal, didn't see him much in the second half.
Title: Re: Local Press: Montpellier HSC in talks to sign Henri Saivet
Post by: toontownman on Sunday 28 January 2018, 08:03:02 PM
Bit of a liability in the tackle like mbemba but was average otherwise.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Lush Vlad on Monday 29 January 2018, 08:44:16 AM
I thought he was really solid at West Ham.  He was terrible yesterday.  Gave away the foul for the third, although that isn't all on him, TBF.  s*** touch and tackle for the second goal that totally killed the game before half time.  His passing was really hit and miss, too.  I noticed a few stray balls straight off the pitch. 
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: jackyboy on Monday 29 January 2018, 09:59:40 AM
I actually quite like this guy, I think he would get better and better with a run in the side
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: TRon on Monday 29 January 2018, 10:03:23 AM
He looks like he can see a pass, unfortunately he often doesn't make it. Doesn't look match fit either, looks like he could lose a few pounds. I get the feeling with a run of games he could be a player, assuming he wants it.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:56:40 PM
Off to Turkey apparently.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Bimpy474 on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:57:22 PM
Bye Henri.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:57:53 PM
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: BONTEMPI on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 10:58:29 PM
Ta'raa
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:01:41 PM
Wuzpisspor more like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:07:25 PM
Goodbye, sweet prince. Forever known as our first ever goalscorer at the Olympic/London Stadium.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:08:22 PM
Money saved :indi:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: geordiedean on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:08:24 PM
Another absolutely pointless signing along the money laundering lines of Thauvin,Cabella,Doubia,Ferrera,Yanga Mbiwa
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:10:51 PM
Godspeed to the thinking man's Pancrate
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Pilko on Tuesday 30 January 2018, 11:11:11 PM
Never really given a chance, seems like a good pro. Best of luck to him and well done for getting out of our awful club.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: midds on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 12:16:11 AM
With a bit of luck we’ll lose him as a midfield option but save a few hundred grand in the process. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 12:55:14 AM
Goodbye, sweet prince. Forever known as our first ever goalscorer at the Olympic/London Stadium.

Be a great trivia question someday.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: STM on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:25:15 AM
Gone.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: sugoinufc on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:29:46 AM
Its for the best - wont be missed. good luck.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: TRon on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:30:20 AM
Bye.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: TK-421 on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:40:53 AM
Looks chuffed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU3Y9EsW0AAQwp4.jpg)
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Dokko on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:41:53 AM
We're like a really really really s*** version of Chelsea.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: Altamullan on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:44:14 AM
Looks chuffed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU3Y9EsW0AAQwp4.jpg)
Kin hell! Ennui Henri?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet seemingly set to join Sivasspor
Post by: shakey jake on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 11:51:29 AM
Wasn’t he really good in France?  Joins the long list of names that nufc have totally killed careers of.
Title: Re: Official: Henri Saivet joins Sivasspor on loan until the end of the season
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 31 January 2018, 12:38:45 PM
Looks chuffed

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU3Y9EsW0AAQwp4.jpg)

Not thrilled about all the racial abuse he’s about to get.
Title: Re: Official: Henri Saivet joins Sivasspor on loan until the end of the season
Post by: danny on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:00:37 PM
Off to turkey on another loan, contract dosent run out till 2021
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: toon25 on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:19:08 PM
Another Steve c***ing McLaren signing, wasn’t he?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:23:08 PM
Apart from that mistake in the West Ham game which he made up for I swear he's looked pretty competent every time he's actually played for us.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Serb on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:25:59 PM
Apart from that mistake in the West Ham game which he made up for I swear he's looked pretty competent every time he's actually played for us.

This.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Scotty66 on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:27:56 PM
He was a world beater on football manager so he must be good.

Wonder what freddy adu is up to these days?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Another Steve c***ing McLaren signing, wasn’t he?

You honestly think Steve McClaren identified Saivet as a player he wanted and NUFC went out and bought him off the back of McClaren's recommendation?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/henri-saivet-confirms-hes-close-15034320

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Henri Saivet confirms he's close to leaving Newcastle on loan - as United move on another big earner
Newcastle United manager Rafa Benitez made it clear to Henri Saivet that the midfielder was not part of his first-team plans

By Chris Waugh NUFC Writer
17:14, 15 AUG 2018

Newcastle United midfielder Henri Saivet is close to joining Bursaspor on a season-long loan deal.

The 27-year-old Senegal international still has three years remaining on his United contract, but he looks set to spend the 2018/19 campaign back in Turkey following a loan spell at Sivasspor during the first half of the year.


Although the Premier League transfer window closed last Thursday, most markets around Europe are open until the end of the month - while EFL clubs can also loan players until August 31.

As a result, Newcastle have been actively offering Saivet to clubs across the Continent in the hope they can offload a big earner - the midfielder is believed to be on around £35,000 a week - who is surplus to requirements.

Whether Bursaspor are paying Saivet’s salary in full remains to be seen, but United have been forced to partly subsidise unwanted players’ wages over the past two seasons in order to send them out on loan.

Saivet, who made only one league appearance for United over the course of the past two campaigns, is not considered part of Rafa Benitez’s Newcastle first-team plans and admits he must head out on loan in an attempt to reinvigorate his career.

“I am very happy that I came to Bursaspor, and it was very important for me to be transferred here for my career,” Saivet told BeIN Sport Turkey.

“I will be training with the team after the health check tomorrow. We worked together too, and hopefully everything will be fine.”
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kimbo on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 06:00:14 PM
There's something stinky about it, I find it hard to believe he's really that s***.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 06:04:01 PM
Being investigated by operation sanctuary.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 06:05:33 PM
Didn't the chairman of nice slate his attitude or something, there's probably bigger question marks over his desire to play every week  rather than how good he is
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: hoppaz on Wednesday 15 August 2018, 06:30:44 PM
Didn't the chairman of nice slate his attitude or something, there's probably bigger question marks over his desire to play every week  rather than how good he is

He did. I like how Rafa doesn't take the problem to the players when he wants rid. He takes it to the agents who know their assets arent generating any value, or likely to, so it makes them sort players futures out as it is in the agents best interest to move them on in order to maximise the players earning potential.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Stal on Thursday 16 August 2018, 01:55:59 PM
He was a world beater on football manager so he must be good.
Wonder what freddy adu is up to these days?

 :D brilliant!
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Gallowgate Toon on Thursday 16 August 2018, 02:04:51 PM
I think it's pretty clear now that his ability as a footballer isn't the reason why he's not wanted at the club, no?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 16 August 2018, 02:14:33 PM
"big earner" on 35k a week. Less than half of what we were giving Kieron Dyer in 2005, with the money in football now. f***ing hell, our football club is the pits.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Disco on Thursday 16 August 2018, 03:44:27 PM
Getting €900k
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Doctor Zaius on Thursday 16 August 2018, 04:50:59 PM
Some reports say we signed him for 5M. Yet theres speculation Rafa hasnt got control of transfers due to Gamez and Lazaar who were both pennies too.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Saturday 25 August 2018, 07:43:38 AM
Appears to have signed for Bursaspor at last, presumably a loan
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm3ZzpVHxeB/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=10mx3dl75y0wz
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: loki679 on Saturday 25 August 2018, 08:39:16 AM
So that's what he looks like.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: morla84 on Tuesday 9 July 2019, 07:37:57 AM
Haven't read the article, but the evening clickbait seem to be proposing him as the answer to our number 10 problems now Perez has gone. Grim.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Minhosa on Tuesday 9 July 2019, 08:46:07 AM
Haven't read the article, but the evening clickbait seem to be proposing him as the answer to our number 10 problems now Perez has gone. Grim.

The spin from those c***s at the chron has been absolutely shameful this summer. f***ing disgusting.
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Sho'Time on Tuesday 9 July 2019, 09:23:29 AM
Ryder & co must honestly sit at their desks day-to-day working out something, anything, they can write about so they can show their bosses they're actually doing something. I assume the clickbait headline was something like "Could this man be the answer to Newcastle's no.10 position now Perez has left?"
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Papavasiliou on Friday 9 August 2019, 12:36:25 PM
How long we got left the shift this one out on loan again?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Kanji on Friday 9 August 2019, 12:49:15 PM
So he has time to go abroad then right?
Title: Re: Henri Saivet
Post by: Jinky Jim on Friday 9 August 2019, 12:51:17 PM
How long we got left the shift this one out on loan again?

How long we got left the shift this one out on loan again?
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Early September to Div 1 and 2,Scotland or the continent