Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:14:16 AM
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:19:26 AM
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:21:25 AM
Could get very interesting. . . .
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:22:16 AM
As I said in the Qatar/Russia thread, my wet dream is that the DoJ goes all RICO on FIFA's arses.
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:24:54 AM
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Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:53:08 AM
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:01:26 AM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:06:43 AM
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Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:11:26 AM
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:14:11 AM
Post by: Anon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:22:23 AM
Good news tbh. Only one surprising thing about all this. I can't believe it's not Blatter.
The main evil guy always gets away if films have taught me anything
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:29:28 AM
I can't believe it's not Blatter.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00804/butter_682x400_804598a.jpg)
Post by: Varadi on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:29:32 AM
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9866259/FIFA-s-Foes-Come-Arrests-Made-In-Zurich
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:33:39 AM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:38:12 AM
Apparently these arrests are related to the awarding of the 2010 World Cup, they're still looking into 2018 and 2022:
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9866259/FIFA-s-Foes-Come-Arrests-Made-In-Zurich
Wish they'd look into the f***ing mess of 2014 as well. As soon as Brazilian police started investigating FIFA and arresting people during the World Cup, Brazil stopped getting help from the refs and lost to Germany 7-1. :(
Post by: Bert Shaft on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:39:09 AM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:40:51 AM
Actually 14 people, Marin from Brazil being one as well. Get the f*** in. Time to do something about these absolute freaks.
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:43:09 AM
Apparently these arrests are related to the awarding of the 2010 World Cup, they're still looking into 2018 and 2022:
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9866259/FIFA-s-Foes-Come-Arrests-Made-In-Zurich
Wish they'd look into the f***ing mess of 2014 as well. As soon as Brazilian police started investigating FIFA and arresting people during the World Cup, Brazil stopped getting help from the refs and lost to Germany 7-1. :(
Totally connected, of course.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:45:15 AM
Apparently these arrests are related to the awarding of the 2010 World Cup, they're still looking into 2018 and 2022:
http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9866259/FIFA-s-Foes-Come-Arrests-Made-In-Zurich
Wish they'd look into the f***ing mess of 2014 as well. As soon as Brazilian police started investigating FIFA and arresting people during the World Cup, Brazil stopped getting help from the refs and lost to Germany 7-1. :(
Totally connected, of course.
It's great that some people only see the seriousness in posts ;)
Basically every South and Latin American football official has been arrested, while little Blatter from Switzerland will probably escape any punishment...
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:46:07 AM
This is a reason to celebrate. Let it all come crashing down. It's the only way football will survive.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:48:22 AM
YES! FINALLY!
This is a reason to celebrate. Let it all come crashing down. It's the only way football will survive.
:thup: It's a beginning at the very least.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:49:22 AM
''The Swiss Federal Office of Justice has announced it is now questioning 10 Fifa executives who took part in voting on the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids. A statement from the Swiss attorney general said criminal proceedings have opened “against persons unknown on suspicion of criminal mismanagement and of money laundering in connection with the allocation of the 2018 and 2022 football World Cups”. From the guardian.com
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:52:19 AM
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:53:08 AM
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:53:26 AM
Will enjoy watching Jack Warner and Septic Bladder being hauled over the coals should it ever happen
Issa Hayatou as well hopefully.
Someone from within FIFA commented that it was a "sad day for football". Erm, no it isn't. It's a sad day for corrupt and gluttonous w*****s. It's a wonderful day for football.
Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:54:56 AM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:03:37 AM
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:10:11 AM
Let's see what happens when the other parasites are threatened with being a prison bitch for the next 5-10 years. Surely one of them will know summat to incriminate Blatter.
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:11:25 AM
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:20:38 AM
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:22:51 AM
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:26:44 AM
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:26:52 AM
Post by: ScottishMagpie on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:28:05 AM
Bit like Andrew Coulson apparently "unware" of phone-hacking going on under his nose. Whole f**king lot them deserve to be burn on a stick.
Post by: sugoinufc on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:31:03 AM
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:31:37 AM
Post by: Jericho on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:35:18 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:42:15 AM
Heh, it was always going to be the yanks because they don't give a f*** about offending other people.
This is true. Great news.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:43:27 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
Think it be impossible to have a re-vote for the 2018 World Cup. But for 2022 there is still time.
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:44:00 AM
Heh, it was always going to be the yanks because they don't give a f*** about offending other people.
This is true. Great news.
Remember hearing it's because the transactions will have taken place in US$ so they can prosecute regardless of where the offences took place.
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:45:31 AM
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:46:14 AM
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:46:48 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
Think it be impossible to have a re-vote for the 2018 World Cup. But for 2022 there is still time.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUSA! x4 or 5.
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:49:16 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
Think it be impossible to have a re-vote for the 2018 World Cup. But for 2022 there is still time.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUSA! x4 or 5.
First the nazis, then the communists, now FIFA. Yanks always come to save the world :smitten:
Post by: Anon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:50:32 AM
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:51:05 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
I think there's a lot of "for nows" atm. I can see both processes being rerun and Blatter getting banged up before the year is out.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:51:35 AM
I hope they nail their balls to the floor on this one, I really do.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:00:22 AM
Reading the news, does FIFA employ anyone under the age of 70?! :lol:
Nah, they're all f***ing dinosaurs. Ridiculous.
Post by: antz1uk on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:04:33 AM
Post by: mattypnufc on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:06:07 AM
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:13:36 AM
Post by: Raconteur on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:15:41 AM
Post by: Anon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:17:38 AM
f***ing great this like.
(http://oi45.tinypic.com/2cfp8nb.jpg)
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:18:21 AM
Anyone that voted for a world cup to take place in a desert in 40+ heat has clearly taken a few bags of gold and a few hundred camels thrown in for good measure. Insane decision (not that I have anything against the middle east)
:thup:
They have just as much of a right to apply as anyone else. However, all things considered it's an absolutely mental decision. The world cup should be built on equality. I can't think of two less equality-focussed nations than Qatar and Russia. Beggars belief how they thought this would all go smoothly.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:24:29 AM
Anyone that voted for a world cup to take place in a desert in 40+ heat has clearly taken a few bags of gold and a few hundred camels thrown in for good measure. Insane decision (not that I have anything against the middle east)
:thup:
They have just as much of a right to apply as anyone else. However, all things considered it's an absolutely mental decision. The world cup should be built on equality. I can't think of two less equality-focussed nations than Qatar and Russia. Beggars belief how they thought this would all go smoothly.
World Cup should be built on honesty and with emphasize on promoting the sport, if people think Qatar and Russia were deserving despite their political problems than fair enough, but that is obviously not the case. If the World Cup would be based on equality than we'd only have very few nations hosting the World Cup year in year out and they'd all be played in Europe. FIFA is a huge organization with so much resource which makes it even sadder to see this type of corruption, as it has the power to change so much in the world because of peoples love to the game. It's shameful really what greed can do to people.
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:26:04 AM
Post by: TheGuv on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:27:07 AM
No re-vote for the World Cups.For now.
Think it be impossible to have a re-vote for the 2018 World Cup. But for 2022 there is still time.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuUUUUSA! x4 or 5.
First the nazis, then the communists, now FIFA. Yanks always come to save the world :smitten:
They always leave it as late as possible though eh? EH?
AMIRITE?
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:27:29 AM
Anyone that voted for a world cup to take place in a desert in 40+ heat has clearly taken a few bags of gold and a few hundred camels thrown in for good measure. Insane decision (not that I have anything against the middle east)
:thup:
They have just as much of a right to apply as anyone else. However, all things considered it's an absolutely mental decision. The world cup should be built on equality. I can't think of two less equality-focussed nations than Qatar and Russia. Beggars belief how they thought this would all go smoothly.
Indeed they do, there is no doubt in that. As you say, mental! For footballing reasons alone it does not work in Qatar and as for Russia with all the political unrest with Ukraine (putting it mildly) going on, it just does not feel right either. So if decisions were not made on footballing or political reasons, what were they made on!
Post by: Troll on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:30:11 AM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:30:49 AM
They'll definitely go after Blatter eventually, unless he's squeaky clean (which he's obviously not).
Unless he's been ratting these guys out to save his own ass.
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:35:13 AM
They'll definitely go after Blatter eventually, unless he's squeaky clean (which he's obviously not).
Unless he's been ratting these guys out to save his own ass.
Think you'll find that Chuck Blazer is the one thats turned rat. Blatter's f***ed mate, matter of time.
Post by: Dan Gleebals on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:36:34 AM
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:39:28 AM
Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:40:21 AM
The yanks would love Blatters scalp.
They're not the only ones.
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:42:17 AM
Watched loads of FBI stuff me like ;)
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:47:50 AM
Post by: STM on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:49:39 AM
Post by: Pip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:54:45 AM
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:55:21 AM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:56:13 AM
Corruption is a capital offence right?
:lol: 'murder by cop' is all the rage right now. Let's "hope" none of these dudes j-walks while on bail.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:57:39 AM
so how long until FIFA bans the U.S because of "political interference in football"
:lol: Would be the most Partridgeshrug.gif moment. We'd just start our own goddamn international football organization. With playoffs.
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:58:12 AM
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:59:36 AM
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:01:44 PM
I'm in favour of sometimes sending the world cup to nations with a developing interest in football, in order to promote it. USA '94 etc.
Australia would host a fantastic WC i reckon. Kick off times would be naff though.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:03:35 PM
so how long until FIFA bans the U.S because of "political interference in football"
:lol: Would be the most Partridgeshrug.gif moment. We'd just start our own goddamn international football organization. With playoffs.
:sweetjesus:
Post by: BlueStar on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:05:21 PM
This was better in my head.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:05:53 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:06:15 PM
Money talks!
Post by: GallowgateKev on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:07:27 PM
Sniff and birds for everyone
Post by: steve_69 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:09:07 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
The culture of the country should also be taken into account. Awarding the tournament to blatantly racist, sexist and homophobic countries is near enough an endorsement of their ways.
FIFA should release a statement saying the competition will only be awarded to countries that meet fit and proper criteria with regards to culture. That way they might actually encourage the likes of Qatar and Russia to implement positive change.
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:12:12 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
The culture of the country should also be taken into account. Awarding the tournament to blatantly racist, sexist and homophobic countries is near enough an endorsement of their ways.
FIFA should release a statement saying the competition will only be awarded to countries that meet fit and proper criteria with regards to culture. That way they might actually encourage the likes of Qatar and Russia to implement positive change.
Agree with that too - and to be honest, those countries will never change.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:20:44 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:21:50 PM
A world cup in Oz would be OK if they didn't use Perth. Still, minging amounts of travel and too much oddly shaped, small stadia.
Think it would be a joint bid with New Zealand if they did it.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:24:15 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
So basically in like 4, 5 countries then. Not many countries have sporting stadiums that fit the criteria for a World Cup. Think the World Cup should be spread out to promote the sport, but it should also be done to improve societies in places where they are being hosted and not a for the sole purpose of robbing the country of even more. England should definitely have one soon, but the US? Had one 20 years ago, they could wait another 10-20 years. Australia have to be in line as well as someone said.
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:26:17 PM
A world cup in Oz would be OK if they didn't use Perth. Still, minging amounts of travel and too much oddly shaped, small stadia.
Think it would be a joint bid with New Zealand if they did it.
Aye,
MCG
Suncorp
ANZ
Allianz
Adelaide Oval (?)
Wellington basin
Dunedin
just off the top of my head.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:28:16 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:28:42 PM
P.S is this even a country?
Post by: bowlingcrofty on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:36:42 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.Someone born in the 90s in Europe will have to wait until they are in their mid 30s (at the earliest, we still don't know what backwards country they'll give it to in 2026) to go to a World Cup unless they could afford to travel half the world for it or go to a horribly homophobic and racist country. I'm born in 1988, so turned 18 just as the World Cup in Germany kicked off, won't have had a chance to go to a World Cup until I'm 38 now :lol:
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:38:09 PM
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On a devastating day for Fifa,
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Chew over the FIFA latest here, as the game's governing body goes into crisis
:pedro: could read this s*** all day
Post by: loki679 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:47:03 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
So basically in like 4, 5 countries then. Not many countries have sporting stadiums that fit the criteria for a World Cup. Think the World Cup should be spread out to promote the sport, but it should also be done to improve societies in places where they are being hosted and not a for the sole purpose of robbing the country of even more. England should definitely have one soon, but the US? Had one 20 years ago, they could wait another 10-20 years. Australia have to be in line as well as someone said.
Qatar don't even have enough cities never mind stadia :lol:
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:47:28 PM
Anyone that voted for a world cup to take place in a desert in 40+ heat has clearly taken a few bags of gold and a few hundred camels thrown in for good measure. Insane decision (not that I have anything against the middle east)
This! I don't begrudge a massive country like Russia the chance to host a world cup (obviously if they're found guilty of wrong-doing then by all means string them up). But Qatar? For f***'s sake. About as anti-football as you can get a host nation.
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:50:54 PM
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:55:06 PM
The WC shouldn't be going to nations that don't have the proper infrastructure, accommodations, transportation and of course sporting stadiums either. If the Cup becomes a positive catalyst for economic growth that can be SUSTAINED, fair enough, but if you're just building s*** for sake of it then not having any way of keeping it long-term its pointless.
England should have had another WC by now, and the USA should be in line for another as well. I'm biased, but f*** it. I'd also like to see more Cups in Europe as well. Again more biased towards atmosphere and appreciation etc.
So basically in like 4, 5 countries then. Not many countries have sporting stadiums that fit the criteria for a World Cup. Think the World Cup should be spread out to promote the sport, but it should also be done to improve societies in places where they are being hosted and not a for the sole purpose of robbing the country of even more. England should definitely have one soon, but the US? Had one 20 years ago, they could wait another 10-20 years. Australia have to be in line as well as someone said.
Qatar don't even have enough cities never mind stadia :lol:
Qatar is a pisstake though, it's ridiculous. Just look at them hosting the Handball World Cup and buying their team basically.
Post by: Noodles on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:55:30 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
It left a bad taste that all we were s*** at was corruption. It was widely acknowledged that our bid was one of the best they'd seen.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:59:14 PM
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 12:59:27 PM
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:01:46 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
It left a bad taste that all we were s*** at was corruption. It was widely acknowledged that our bid was one of the best they'd seen.
Exactly - I think they all felt like they were in with a very good shout and had obviously invested many millions into it. Just not in the right pockets.
I have a feeling that the sense of injustice (and cost) just didn't get brushed under the carpet as it had appeared.
For every action..........
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:32:57 PM
so how long until FIFA bans the U.S because of "political interference in football"
:lol: Would be the most Partridgeshrug.gif moment. We'd just start our own goddamn international football organization. With playoffs.
:sweetjesus:
:lol: You like cheerleaders and commercial timeouts? We got 'em!!
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:34:24 PM
"The AllState Insurance 'safe hands' save of the night!"so how long until FIFA bans the U.S because of "political interference in football"
:lol: Would be the most Partridgeshrug.gif moment. We'd just start our own goddamn international football organization. With playoffs.
:sweetjesus:
:lol: You like cheerleaders and commercial timeouts? We got 'em!!
I feel like this might already be a thing.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:34:54 PM
I can't believe it's not Blatter.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00804/butter_682x400_804598a.jpg)
Made me have to go back and dig out:
http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91360.msg4460043.html#msg4460043
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:37:24 PM
The beautiful irony is that #FIFA has been trying for decades to get the Yanks interested in "soccer". They got the FBI interested at least.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:38:50 PM
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:40:15 PM
Anshel Pfeffer @AnshelPfeffer 5h5 hours ago
The beautiful irony is that #FIFA has been trying for decades to get the Yanks interested in "soccer". They got the FBI interested at least.
:lol:
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:41:07 PM
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)You know it's real when they arrest the ball too.
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 01:41:54 PM
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:03:07 PM
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
They all look like lovely decent innocent chaps tbf
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:03:11 PM
so how long until FIFA bans the U.S because of "political interference in football"
:lol: Would be the most Partridgeshrug.gif moment. We'd just start our own goddamn international football organization. With playoffs.
:sweetjesus:
All international football tournaments have playoffs already.
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:04:10 PM
The DOJ does not f*** around with these sorts of charges. Assuming they can get these dudes extradited to the States they are toast.
I don't think I've ever loved the US government more than I do now :lol:
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
:lol:
"Sir, Sir! We've recieved intelligence that ISIS are planning a terrorist attack on Haymarket bus station!"
"Looka son, I've telt yi once, I've telt yi twice, aal w resources are gannin on bringin' doon the b******s that railedroaded the 2018 bid, Davey B's fuckin' foamin' y'kna"
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:06:52 PM
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"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
Post by: Sho'Time on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:09:29 PM
Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
Kelly Currie is a bloke, mate.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:10:19 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
:lol:
"Sir, Sir! We've recieved intelligence that ISIS are planning a terrorist attack on Haymarket bus station!"
"Looka son, I've telt yi once, I've telt yi twice, aal w resources are gannin on bringin' doon the b******s that railedroaded the 2018 bid, Davey B's fuckin' foamin' y'kna"
:lol: :lol:
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:16:17 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
:lol:
"Sir, Sir! We've recieved intelligence that ISIS are planning a terrorist attack on Haymarket bus station!"
"Looka son, I've telt yi once, I've telt yi twice, aal w resources are gannin on bringin' doon the b******s that railedroaded the 2018 bid, Davey B's fuckin' foamin' y'kna"
:lol:
Post by: henke on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:20:41 PM
I'm actually starting to like the guy though. Not so much in a i'll give him a bell, see if he fancys a pint kind of way. More a how the f*** did he pull that off, again? What a man he is. :lol:
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:23:49 PM
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:39:56 PM
A world cup in Oz would be OK if they didn't use Perth. Still, minging amounts of travel and too much oddly shaped, small stadia.
While Perth would be bad for travelling distance it would would be best for showing matches in Europe and the time they are played.
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:46:20 PM
:lol:(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)You know it's real when they arrest the ball too.
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
Post by: Mattoon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 02:53:01 PM
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:15:13 PM
Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:16:12 PM
Without going back through 6 pages what's happening to the king of corruption Slack Bladder?
Nowt, and is still expected to be elected President again.
Post by: Mattoon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:17:13 PM
Without going back through 6 pages what's happening to the king of corruption Slack Bladder?
Nowt, and is still expected to be elected President again.
I suppose there's always hope that the ones arrested with roll over on the geriatric b****** and we can be rid of him once and for all.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:17:40 PM
Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
(http://i.imgur.com/KdYyZsm.gif)
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:19:35 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:23:40 PM
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:36:26 PM
Post by: Peppe on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:40:23 PM
:lol:(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)You know it's real when they arrest the ball too.
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
They don't seem to want to reveal the balls identity though as it's been blurred out :o
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 03:52:09 PM
Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:11:41 PM
The yanks are probably going to demand we call it "soccer" in exchange of going to the bottom of this.
Playoffs tbh.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:18:45 PM
Means the ball is a snitch.:lol:(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)You know it's real when they arrest the ball too.
look at them ffs :lol: the first guy is getting his michelin man on. So ancient.
They don't seem to want to reveal the balls identity though as it's been blurred out :o
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:19:17 PM
The yanks are probably going to demand we call it "soccer" in exchange of going to the bottom of this.
Playoffs tbh.
It only fixes everything.
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:20:07 PM
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Christoph-Waltz-Dancing-in-Chair-Inglourious-Basterds.gif)
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:20:17 PM
But it would clearly happen :lol:
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:21:09 PM
Oh i decided a long time ago to f*** it and agree with you :lol: Mainly because i don't give much of a s***.
:lol: Might bump that thread.
Post by: ScottishMagpie on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:22:03 PM
It's all a ploy to get the word "football" replaced with "soccer".
How many Sports Football shops does he have? :whistle:
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:24:40 PM
The Guardian says our FA president is under investigation.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Christoph-Waltz-Dancing-in-Chair-Inglourious-Basterds.gif)
Every spanish or portuguese speaking person connected to FIFA should be under investigation.
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:24:46 PM
It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:27:48 PM
Good news tbh. Only one surprising thing about all this. I can't believe it's not Blatter.
The main evil guy always gets away if films have taught me anything
Blatter is clearly Darth Sidious.
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:28:29 PM
The Guardian says our FA president is under investigation.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Christoph-Waltz-Dancing-in-Chair-Inglourious-Basterds.gif)
Every spanish or portuguese speaking person connected to FIFA should be under investigation.
Our FA is shamelessly corrupt; one of the reasons they tried to strike La Liga is that the Spanish government has been trying to audit them for ages, and the FIFA has gone all "political interference!".
If that c*** Villar ends up in jail thanks to the yanks, I will personally call football "soccer" for at least a week. A week!
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:30:50 PM
Quote
@david_conn: FIFA: FBI Director James Comey "If you touch our shores with your corrupt enterprise you will be held accountable." This is really happening
I'm assuming James Comey said that with a huge dose of irony or he was constantly suppressing a smirk.
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:37:34 PM
Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
If they manage to clean up FIFA they can change the name to whatever they f***ing want for all I care.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:37:55 PM
From David Conn on Twitter:Quote@david_conn: FIFA: FBI Director James Comey "If you touch our shores with your corrupt enterprise you will be held accountable." This is really happening
I'm assuming James Comey said that with a huge dose of irony or he was constantly suppressing a smirk.
You know what the problem is? The problem is those goddam foreigners stealing our goddam corruption. There are plenty of hard working Americans who would love nothing more than to engage in corruption, but Obama keeps leaving the door open to foreign corruption. #toolittletoolate
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:58:44 PM
It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
:lol: You salty ungrateful rat motherfuckers.
Post by: wyn davies on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 04:59:16 PM
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:00:30 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:01:20 PM
Post by: wyn davies on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:02:05 PM
:lol: All you had to do was give us another World Cup. Oopsie woopsie. :yao:
lol lol , yep thats about the sum of it.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:02:28 PM
You'd trade the World Cup for a past it uncapped star anyway :whistle:
:lol: Eat s*** and die.
Post by: cp40 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:06:28 PM
You'd trade the World Cup for a past it uncapped star anyway :whistle:
:lol: Eat s*** and die.
Does this even get any coverage in USA? do the yanks have a clue about FIFA or give a s***?
Post by: BillClinton on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:07:43 PM
From David Conn on Twitter:Quote@david_conn: FIFA: FBI Director James Comey "If you touch our shores with your corrupt enterprise you will be held accountable." This is really happening
I'm assuming James Comey said that with a huge dose of irony or he was constantly suppressing a smirk.
You know what the problem is? The problem is those goddam foreigners stealing our goddam corruption. There are plenty of hard working Americans who would love nothing more than to engage in corruption, but Obama keeps leaving the door open to foreign corruption. #toolittletoolate
:lol:
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:14:28 PM
You'd trade the World Cup for a past it uncapped star anyway :whistle:
:lol: Eat s*** and die.
Does this even get any coverage in USA? do the yanks have a clue about FIFA or give a s***?
Decent coverage on Deadspin.
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:15:36 PM
:lol: :lol: Ya know I love ya really Mike :rose: Seriously though, how does that make sense.It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
:lol: You salty ungrateful rat motherfuckers.
Post by: cp40 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:19:45 PM
:lol: :lol: Ya know I love ya really Mike :rose: Seriously though, how does that make sense.It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
:lol: You salty ungrateful rat motherfuckers.
Makes perfect sense- playing football with your hand in a cricket helmet, using a Rugby ball
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:20:49 PM
Spoiler
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Post by: Ian W on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:20:52 PM
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:21:18 PM
:lol: :lol: Ya know I love ya really Mike :rose: Seriously though, how does that make sense.It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
:lol: You salty ungrateful rat motherfuckers.
Makes perfect sense- playing football with your hand in a cricket helmet, using a Rugby ball
:lol: Shall we leave, then? Fine. Enjoy Qatar, then f***ing Atlantis and the f***ing Phantom Zone in 2030.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:21:25 PM
You'd trade the World Cup for a past it uncapped star anyway :whistle:
:lol: Eat s*** and die.
Does this even get any coverage in USA? do the yanks have a clue about FIFA or give a s***?
(http://i.imgur.com/7mh7X6o.png)
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:21:36 PM
Rugby's called football as well really.
I have seen Rugby fans call it that :lol: Everyone is f***ing messed up.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Tbf to Mike he comes from a world where trading away your future for average players is the norm, so it's understandable he's a bit confused.Spoiler[close]
:lol: Mole has one arrow in his quiver, man. f*** outta here.
Post by: Tsunami on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:26:42 PM
Rugby's called football as well really.
But that does have a history behind it when the spoilt toff picked the football up and ran off. I've now idea how the Yanks get football from it. Did a Pilgrim do something similar and why isn't Basketball Basketfootball as there is a net.
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:27:35 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:33:26 PM
Rugby's called football as well really.
But that does have a history behind it when the spoilt toff picked the football up and ran off. I've now idea how the Yanks get football from it. Did a Pilgrim do something similar and why isn't Basketball Basketfootball as there is a net.
They're all (association football, rugby union and league, Australian rules football, and American football) derivatives of English school games, and (i) players of different variations of the rules started branching off with formal written rules in the early 1800s or so; or (ii) the games started developing in parallel due to emigration and colonization.
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:37:01 PM
ITT: America saves Soccer. Reaction: f*** off Yanks. :lol::snod:
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:37:47 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:40:01 PM
Quote
For all you out there who love to complain when Americans, and certain others, call “Football”, “Soccer”, you should know that it was the British that invented the word and it was also one of the first names of what we now primarily know of as “Football”.
In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years, with the latter happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/06/the-origin-of-the-word-soccer/
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:41:13 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:41:14 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:41:48 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:42:53 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:49:59 PM
:lol: :lol: Ya know I love ya really Mike :rose: Seriously though, how does that make sense.It's annoying like, and also make zero sense.Quote"Today's announcement should send a message that enough is enough," said Kelly Currie, acting U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York. "After decades of what the indictment alleges to be brazen corruption, organized international soccer needs a new start.
"Let me be clear: This indictment is not the final chapter in our investigation."
:sweetjesus:
:anguish:
How can they still call it soccer, they are investigating the Fédération Internationale de Football Association FFS :lol:
Unless it's called FISA now :undecided:
This is called "Football":
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg/1280px-090926-Saint-Olaf-vs-Augsburg-American-Football.jpg)
Whereas this is called Soccer:
(http://static.ibnlive.in.com/ibnlive/pix/sitepix/01_2015/messi-getty0601-630.jpg)
Damn Yanks :lol:
:lol: You salty ungrateful rat motherfuckers.
Makes perfect sense- playing football with your hand in a cricket helmet, using a Rugby ball
Football was originally called soccer in Britain, after "Assoc" in "Association Football". Then, to differ between names, eventually the word "Football" took over. When "Soccer" was introduced in America, the sport was still called soccer, as well as the Americans already having their own football.
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:50:38 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:55:37 PM
Tbf to Mike he comes from a world where trading away your future for average players is the norm, so it's understandable he's a bit confused.Spoiler[close]
:lol: Mole has one arrow in his quiver, man. f*** outta here.
No point having more than one if that one is so damn effective :lol:
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 05:55:42 PM
Or what B-more said. I really should finish reading threads.
Or you read it and then posted the same thing to look intelligent… :p
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:06:14 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:10:45 PM
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:13:19 PM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:16:30 PM
I cannot wait for this process to last the course of 2-3 years, take down a few minions in minor roles, and produce no real change to anything.
Don't think that will happen. Think some of the big guys are going down, hopefully Marin is one of them. Wonder what happens with the others. Owner of Traffic Sports has already pleaded guilty and forfeited $25m dollars, he will forfeit another $126m. So there is definitely been wrong doing up top and many will be charged.
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:19:22 PM
185. In or about 2004, the FIFA executive committee
considered bids from Morocco, South Africa and Egypt, as well as
other nations that withdrew before the vote, to host the 2010
World Cup.
186. Previously, the defendant JACK WARNER and his
family had cultivated ties with South African soccer officials
in connection with and subsequent to a failed bid by South
Africa to host the 2006 World Cup. In the early 2000s, CoConspirator
#14, a member of WARNER's family, had used WARNER's
contacts in South Africa to organize friendly matches for
CONCACAF teams to play in South Africa. At one point, WARNER
also directed Co-Conspirator #14 to fly to Paris, France and
accept a briefcase containing bundles of U.S. currency in
$10,000 stack~ in a hotel room from Co-Conspirator #15, a highranking
South African bid committee official. Hours after
arriving in Paris, Co-Conspirator #14 boarded a return flight
and carried the briefcase back to Trinidad and Tobago, where CoConspirator
#14 provided it to WARNER.
187. In the months before the selection of the host
nation for the 2010 World Cup, which was scheduled to take place
in May 2004, the defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1
traveled to Morocco as they had done in 1992, in advance of the
voting for the 1998 World Cup host. While in Morocco during the
2004 trip, a representative of the Moroccan bid committee
offered to pay $1 million to WARNER in exchange for his
agreement to cast his secret ballot on the FIFA executive
committee for Morocco to host the 2010 World Cup.
188. Subsequently, Co-Conspirator #1 learned from the
defendant JACK WARNER that high-ranking officials of FIFA,
the South African government, and the South African bid committee,
including Co-Conspirator #16, were prepared to arrange for the
government of South Africa to pay $10 million to CFU to "support
the African diaspora.n Co-Conspirator #1 understood the offer
to be in exchange for the agreement of WARNER, Co-Conspirator
#1, and Co-Conspirator #17 to all vote for South Africa, rather
than Morocco, to host the 2010 World Cup. At the time, CoConspirator
#17, like WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, was a FIFA
executive committee member. WARNER indicated that he had
accepted the offer and told Co-Conspirator #1 that he would give
a $1 million portion of the $10 million payment to CoConspirator
#1.
189. In FIFA's executive committee vote held on May
15, 2004, South Africa was selected over Morocco and Egypt to
host the 2010 World Cup. The defendant JACK WARNER, CoConspirator
#1, and Co-Conspirator #17 indicated that they voted
for South Africa.
190. In the months and years after the vote, CoConspirator
#1 periodically asked WARNER about the status of the
$10 million payment.
191. At one point, Co-Conspirator #1 learned that the
South Africans were unable to arrange for the payment to be made
directly from government funds. Arrangements were thereafter
made with FIFA officials to instead have the $10 million sent
from FIFA - using funds that would otherwise have gone from FIFA
to South Africa to support the World Cup - to CFU.
192. In fact, on January 2, 2008, January 31, 2008 and
March 7, 2008, a high-ranking FIFA official caused payments of
$616,000, $1,600,000, and $7,784,000 - totaling $10 million - to
be wired from a FIFA account in Switzerland to a Bank of America
correspondent account in New York, New York, for credit to
accounts held in the names of CFU and CONCACAF, but controlled
by the defendant JACK WARNER, at Republic Bank in Trinidad and
Tobago.
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:19:29 PM
Or what B-more said. I really should finish reading threads.
Or you read it and then posted the same thing to look intelligent… :p
fwiw I've ran the same arugment multiple times on here for years. :lol:
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:19:31 PM
I agree that a few known people will take charges, but I seriously doubt this investigation achieves anything more than getting a few individuals to fall on their sword. Do you see FIFA being affected or deterred in any way?I cannot wait for this process to last the course of 2-3 years, take down a few minions in minor roles, and produce no real change to anything.
Don't think that will happen. Think some of the big guys are going down, hopefully Marin is one of them. Wonder what happens with the others. Owner of Traffic Sports has already pleaded guilty and forfeited $25m dollars, he will forfeit another $126m. So there is definitely been wrong doing up top and many will be charged.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:28:50 PM
I agree that a few known people will take charges, but I seriously doubt this investigation achieves anything more than getting a few individuals to fall on their sword. Do you see FIFA being affected or deterred in any way?I cannot wait for this process to last the course of 2-3 years, take down a few minions in minor roles, and produce no real change to anything.
Don't think that will happen. Think some of the big guys are going down, hopefully Marin is one of them. Wonder what happens with the others. Owner of Traffic Sports has already pleaded guilty and forfeited $25m dollars, he will forfeit another $126m. So there is definitely been wrong doing up top and many will be charged.
Hopefully, obviously I don't think someone like Blatter will fall, but I do expect it to shake it up a little. Let's hope the FBI, can do something, this is what movies are made out of.
Post by: djmattis on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:40:00 PM
All in the spirit of FIFA.
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:45:31 PM
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:46:21 PM
THIS JUST IN: UEFA calls for postponement of FIFA presidential election, may boycott congress.
6:37 PM - 27 May 2015
And here. we. go.
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:46:48 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:47:03 PM
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:49:59 PM
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:53:03 PM
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 06:58:56 PM
Post by: Peppe on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:01:41 PM
QuoteFor all you out there who love to complain when Americans, and certain others, call “Football”, “Soccer”, you should know that it was the British that invented the word and it was also one of the first names of what we now primarily know of as “Football”.
In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years, with the latter happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/06/the-origin-of-the-word-soccer/
So the snobs call it soccer and the rest of the people call it football then :D
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:06:40 PM
I agree that a few known people will take charges, but I seriously doubt this investigation achieves anything more than getting a few individuals to fall on their sword. Do you see FIFA being affected or deterred in any way?I cannot wait for this process to last the course of 2-3 years, take down a few minions in minor roles, and produce no real change to anything.
Don't think that will happen. Think some of the big guys are going down, hopefully Marin is one of them. Wonder what happens with the others. Owner of Traffic Sports has already pleaded guilty and forfeited $25m dollars, he will forfeit another $126m. So there is definitely been wrong doing up top and many will be charged.
Hopefully, obviously I don't think someone like Blatter will fall, but I do expect it to shake it up a little. Let's hope the FBI, can do something, this is what movies are made out of.
This is not going to just blow over. DOJ would not be bringing these charges unless it intended on doing some serious damage. Maybe Blatter will survive, but many of his key minions are looking at serious jail time and that alone should be enough to deter FIFA from pulling similar s*** in the future.
It's so incredibly satisfying that they've finally run into something they can't bribe or bully their way out of. FIFA may be a big fish, but they're nothing compared to the good 'ol US of A.
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:13:29 PM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:14:22 PM
I agree that a few known people will take charges, but I seriously doubt this investigation achieves anything more than getting a few individuals to fall on their sword. Do you see FIFA being affected or deterred in any way?I cannot wait for this process to last the course of 2-3 years, take down a few minions in minor roles, and produce no real change to anything.
Don't think that will happen. Think some of the big guys are going down, hopefully Marin is one of them. Wonder what happens with the others. Owner of Traffic Sports has already pleaded guilty and forfeited $25m dollars, he will forfeit another $126m. So there is definitely been wrong doing up top and many will be charged.
Hopefully, obviously I don't think someone like Blatter will fall, but I do expect it to shake it up a little. Let's hope the FBI, can do something, this is what movies are made out of.
This is not going to just blow over. DOJ would not be bringing these charges unless it intended on doing some serious damage. Maybe Blatter will survive, but many of his key minions are looking at serious jail time and that alone should be enough to deter FIFA from pulling similar s*** in the future.
It's so incredibly satisfying that they've finally run into something they can't bribe or bully their way out of. FIFA may be a big fish, but they're nothing compared to the good 'ol US of A.
Nah, they'll just be more careful next time ;)
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:14:36 PM
This is all because of John Oliver.
Yeah, ok.
Post by: cubaricho on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:21:31 PM
This is all because of John Oliver.
Yeah, ok.
I realize the joke might've been hard to grasp from one line of text.
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:34:10 PM
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The indicted and convicted individual defendants face maximum terms of incarceration of 20 years for the RICO conspiracy, wire fraud conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering conspiracy, money laundering and obstruction of justice charges. In addition, Eugenio Figueredo faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for a charge of naturalization fraud and could have his U.S. citizenship revoked. He also faces a maximum term of incarceration of five years for each tax charge. Charles Blazer faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for the FBAR charge and five years for the tax evasion charges; and Daryan and Daryll Warner face maximum terms of incarceration of 10 years for structuring financial transactions to evade currency reporting requirements. Each individual defendant also faces mandatory restitution, forfeiture and a fine. By the terms of their plea agreements, the corporate defendants face fines of $500,000 and one year of probation.
I imagine these assholes locked in a dark room at DOJ with some prosecutor lighting a fire under their asses to knock their sentence down from 20 years to five by handing over information on Blatter :fwap:
Post by: Minhosa on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:38:16 PM
QuoteThe indicted and convicted individual defendants face maximum terms of incarceration of 20 years for the RICO conspiracy, wire fraud conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering conspiracy, money laundering and obstruction of justice charges. In addition, Eugenio Figueredo faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for a charge of naturalization fraud and could have his U.S. citizenship revoked. He also faces a maximum term of incarceration of five years for each tax charge. Charles Blazer faces a maximum term of incarceration of 10 years for the FBAR charge and five years for the tax evasion charges; and Daryan and Daryll Warner face maximum terms of incarceration of 10 years for structuring financial transactions to evade currency reporting requirements. Each individual defendant also faces mandatory restitution, forfeiture and a fine. By the terms of their plea agreements, the corporate defendants face fines of $500,000 and one year of probation.
I imagine these assholes locked in a dark room at DOJ with some prosecutor lighting a fire under their asses to knock their sentence down from 20 years to five by handing over information on Blatter :fwap:
Yep - got plea bargains written all over it. Prepare for s*** to fly.
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:40:40 PM
It would be great if Blatter spent the rest of his life in jail.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:41:04 PM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:41:14 PM
This is all because of John Oliver.
Yeah, ok.
I realize the joke might've been hard to grasp from one line of text.
Tell yourself that :lol:
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:41:32 PM
Is Prince Al Bin Al-Hussein really the sort of person we need to take over from Sepp Blatter, seems like it's more of the same to me. Fifa need the fumigators in, smoke the whole nest of vipers out and start again.
I'd guess he's already rich and can't be bought?
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:42:36 PM
Post by: LucaAltieri on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:43:42 PM
Most of the arrested (or all) are based in the Americas; I think the DoJ has plenty of s*** on others but has only arrested the ones it can build jurisdiction for.
They're all based in the Americas because all of their information is coming from Chuck Blazer.
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:44:23 PM
Most of the arrested (or all) are based in the Americas; I think the DoJ has plenty of s*** on others but has only arrested the ones it can build jurisdiction for.
They're all based in the Americas because all of their information is coming from Chuck Blazer.
Is this Chuck Blazer really facing jail despite being a rat?
Post by: B-more Mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:46:09 PM
Most of the arrested (or all) are based in the Americas; I think the DoJ has plenty of s*** on others but has only the arrested the ones he can build jurisdiction for.
I think that's probably largely correct, and is consistent with the Swiss prosecutors running their own separate investigation (though I would imaging Justice probably shared a truck load of information with the Swiss).
Post by: LucaAltieri on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:47:56 PM
Most of the arrested (or all) are based in the Americas; I think the DoJ has plenty of s*** on others but has only arrested the ones it can build jurisdiction for.
They're all based in the Americas because all of their information is coming from Chuck Blazer.
Is this Chuck Blazer really facing jail despite being a rat?
No idea what sort of deal he cut, if any, but they've had him for a while and he's been helping them out. Seems to have been fairly common knowledge. The guys on The Best Soccer Show have spoken about it a few times.
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 07:56:36 PM
Post by: Kanji on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:12:01 PM
Anyway, this is all nuts and awesome. f*** FIFA, f*** Blatter.
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:17:08 PM
Post by: Big Geordie on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:33:15 PM
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:34:18 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:36:45 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:41:21 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
I would guess very serious. The Obama administration in general has been pretty hawkish on foreign entities engaging in corrupt practices on US soil/in connection with the US market. The amount of time and effort DOJ have put into this case indicate that they're out for blood.
The indictment states that each of these guys could face 20 years+ on some combination of RICO charges, money laundering, wire fraud, tax evasion, and bribery (with bonus points for criminal conspiracy.) Just based off what I've seen, that level of sentencing don't seem outlandish at all if they don't cooperate.
Realistically, most will probably work out some kind of plea deal in which they agree not to defend themselves and also provide information in exchange for less serious charges. This is why I'm holding out some hope that the US authorities will work their way even higher up the FIFA totem pole.
The one wrinkle in this is probably extradition. I'm not aware of where these people are at the moment and how many of them are already in American hands. Depending on where they're holed up and what sort of treaty the US has with those countries extradition may take a significant amount of time.
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:41:42 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
The DOJ's conviction rate is like 93%, the only way people will get out of serious punishment is by informing the investigation. I really don't see anyway Blatter remains president by the time this is over.
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:42:54 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
The DOJ's conviction rate is like 93%, the only way people will get out of serious punishment is by informing the investigation. I really don't see anyway Blatter remains president by the time this is over.
This is also a good point. The DOJ basically never brings these charges unless they're sure they have you cold. Basically everyone takes a plea bargain because they threaten you with dozens of years of prison otherwise.
Post by: morpeth mag on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:43:52 PM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:45:55 PM
apparently nike's caught up with this too
Wouldn't surprise me. Anyone who have dealt with Brazil is going to be caught in this s***.
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:50:49 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
The DOJ's conviction rate is like 93%, the only way people will get out of serious punishment is by informing the investigation. I really don't see anyway Blatter remains president by the time this is over.
This is also a good point. The DOJ basically never brings these charges unless they're sure they have you cold. Basically everyone takes a plea bargain because they threaten you with dozens of years of prison otherwise.
Thanks all that sounds good. Wow! At last some good news in the world of football.
Post by: Kaizero on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:50:53 PM
Would be great if the Americans in here can give us some background on how this is going down and who has what powers etc...
What sort of things specifically are you curious about?
For instance how serious are they to push for real punishment?
I would guess very serious. The Obama administration in general has been pretty hawkish on foreign entities engaging in corrupt practices on US soil/in connection with the US market. The amount of time and effort DOJ have put into this case indicate that they're out for blood.
The indictment states that each of these guys could face 20 years+ on some combination of RICO charges, money laundering, wire fraud, tax evasion, and bribery (with bonus points for criminal conspiracy.) Just based off what I've seen, that level of sentencing don't seem outlandish at all if they don't cooperate.
Realistically, most will probably work out some kind of plea deal in which they agree not to defend themselves and also provide information in exchange for less serious charges. This is why I'm holding out some hope that the US authorities will work their way even higher up the FIFA totem pole.
The one wrinkle in this is probably extradition. I'm not aware of where these people are at the moment and how many of them are already in American hands. Depending on where they're holed up and what sort of treaty the US has with those countries extradition may take a significant amount of time.
Most were arrested in Switzerland, who have a very open extradition agreement with the US. I read somewhere that they're probably already shipped to America by now. :lol:
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:53:33 PM
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:55:15 PM
Few days in some black site deep in the woods and they'll give up their own mothers. :)
I feel like this is the one time that waterboarding is definitely justified.
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 08:58:32 PM
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:04:03 PM
Few days in some black site deep in the woods and they'll give up their own mothers. :)
I feel like this is the one time that waterboarding is definitely justified.
Perhaps even the water brick. :lol:
Post by: Big Geordie on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:14:15 PM
:)
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:18:24 PM
Don't think that the English FA aren't behind this in some way either btw.
I think that bid team with Beckham, the Princes et al was f***ing furious after the outcome and from that point on I imagine they plotted their revenge.
I'd say it's nailed on that British Intelligence has played a role in this somewhere.
:lol:
"Sir, Sir! We've recieved intelligence that ISIS are planning a terrorist attack on Haymarket bus station!"
"Looka son, I've telt yi once, I've telt yi twice, aal w resources are gannin on bringin' doon the b******s that railedroaded the 2018 bid, Davey B's fuckin' foamin' y'kna"
:lol: :lol:
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 09:26:53 PM
Few days in some black site deep in the woods and they'll give up their own mothers. :)
I knew Obama was keeping Gitmo open this long for a good reason!
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:05:11 PM
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PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad — An arrest warrant was issued Wednesday for former FIFA vice president Jack Warner at the request of authorities in the United States, where he was one of 14 people linked to international soccer indicted on corruption charges.
The Attorney General for Trinidad and Tobago said it had been working with the U.S. Department of Justice for about a year regarding the investigation of Warner, who was forced out of FIFA in 2011 over a bribery scandal.
Warner, who is an opposition member of Parliament in the twin-island nation, can be extradited to the U.S. under a bilateral treaty following a hearing.
Looks like they had all they had all the extradition stuff pre-planned before they went public too. So badass :megusta:
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:10:26 PM
Post by: oldtype on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:12:33 PM
I just love how they waited for them to be nicely bunched together in Switzerland before rounding them up. Yanks are efficient.
I can't remember the last time I was in such a good mood reading the football forum :lol:
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:13:25 PM
Is Prince Al Bin Al-Hussein really the sort of person we need to take over from Sepp Blatter, seems like it's more of the same to me. Fifa need the fumigators in, smoke the whole nest of vipers out and start again.Racist
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:15:07 PM
I just love how they waited for them to be nicely bunched together in Switzerland before rounding them up. Yanks are efficient.
I can't remember the last time I was in such a good mood reading the football forum :lol:
I do. :blush:
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:33:30 PM
Nah man, escaping relegation wasn't that big of a deal O0I just love how they waited for them to be nicely bunched together in Switzerland before rounding them up. Yanks are efficient.
I can't remember the last time I was in such a good mood reading the football forum :lol:
I do. :blush:
Post by: Nobody on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:45:33 PM
"Blatter will make sure he wins the election in the same way he always has. It's a shame that the worlds biggest sporting organisation has a leader like that. That's my opinion."
When asked whether he has known about corruption and money laundering: "I know that money was thrown around here and there for the 1998 election. Without that, Blatter would not have been elected. But he knows how to deal with these things, and he's never been prosecuted or anything has been proven. But I know what happened in 98."
When asked that Blatter denies any involvement or knowledge: "It'd be the first time the president of an organisation doesn't know anything. He knows about everything else at FIFA, why not this?"
He then goes on to say that England should host the 2018 WC, because Russia should be stripped off it and England are best suited for it, and that the Qatar WC should be up for a new vote.
He seems fairly certain that the two WCs will be up for debate like.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:47:48 PM
Lennart Johansson, former president of UEFA and honorary member of FIFA, have been interviewed in a Swedish paper today. Comes out with some pretty damning words on Blatter.
"Blatter will make sure he wins the election in the same way he always has. It's a shame that the worlds biggest sporting organisation has a leader like that. That's my opinion."
When asked whether he has known about corruption and money laundering: "I know that money was thrown around here and there for the 1998 election. Without that, Blatter would not have been elected. But he knows how to deal with these things, and he's never been prosecuted or anything has been proven. But I know what happened in 98."
When asked that Blatter denies any involvement or knowledge: "It'd be the first time the president of an organisation doesn't know anything. He knows about everything else at FIFA, why not this?"
He then goes on to say that England should host the 2018 WC, because Russia should be stripped off it and England are best suited for it, and that the Qatar WC should be up for a new vote.
He seems fairly certain that the two WCs will be up for debate like.
They certainly f***ing oughta be.
Post by: Fugazi on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:49:02 PM
Post by: Mike on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 10:50:09 PM
Yeah, is death penalty on the table?
It's always on the table in the USA, man.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:05:17 PM
Yeah, is death penalty on the table?
It's always on the table in the USA, man.
:lol:
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:16:22 PM
Yeah, is death penalty on the table?
It's always on the table in the USA, man.
Stunned you didn't make a racial comment here like. Well done mate. You're growing.
Post by: themanupstairs on Wednesday 27 May 2015, 11:28:39 PM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:22:58 AM
Post by: Dave on Thursday 28 May 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Yeah, is death penalty on the table?
It's always on the table in the USA, man.
:lol:
Only for the two top right though.
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)
Post by: Sho'Time on Thursday 28 May 2015, 10:32:08 AM
Yeah, is death penalty on the table?
It's always on the table in the USA, man.
:lol:
Only for the two top right though.
(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83248000/jpg/_83248568_027406409-1.jpg)
Aye, Robert Mugabe is a f***ing horrible bloke like.
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 10:32:20 AM
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:36:08 AM
I still think Russia and Qatar have a legitimate right to host the world cup it's just the process that needs investigating
How does a country of only 2m people (200k Qataris) which is about as big as metropolitan London with only one conurbation which comes close to being called a city (about the population of Newcastle) and with a history of discrimination, expliotation and grave human rights abuses but, notably, absolutely no history or tradition in football have the 'right' to hold a world cup?
Oh, and it's as hot as the sun too.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:38:27 AM
I still think Russia and Qatar have a legitimate right to host the world cup it's just the process that needs investigating
So does North Korea, it's still ridiculous to give it to Qatar when you tot up the insane amount of things that it doesn't have going for it and giving it to Russia whilst trying to say 'Kick Racism Out of Football' with a straight face.
Post by: U2 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:39:44 AM
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:41:14 AM
I still think Russia and Qatar have a legitimate right to host the world cup it's just the process that needs investigating
How does a country of only 2m people (200k Qataris) which is about as big as metropolitan London with only one conurbation which comes close to being called a city (about the population of Newcastle) and with a history of discrimination, expliotation and grave human rights abuses but, notably, absolutely no history or tradition in football have the 'right' to hold a world cup?
Oh, and it's as hot as the sun too.
...and no one's allowed to drink and it'll have to be in the winter, therefore disrupting pretty much every league in the world.
Soz.
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01804/qatar_1804682c.jpg)
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:45:15 AM
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:47:24 AM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:51:52 AM
World Cup in Qatar was ridiculous from the start. Hopefully this will put a stop to it.
Agreed it probably should have been UAE, however the November world cup is fine by me, if a few £200,000 a week footballers are upset by missing a few weeks summer holidays then they can put their notice in and go and work for sports direct on a zero hour contract
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:54:12 AM
World Cup in Qatar was ridiculous from the start. Hopefully this will put a stop to it.
Agreed it probably should have been UAE, however the November world cup is fine by me, if a few £200,000 a week footballers are upset by missing a few weeks summer holidays then they can put their notice in and go and work for sports direct on a zero hour contract
Wouldn't get soldiers moaning about the heat would you? Makes me sick.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:54:51 AM
Every country should have the opportunity to host if there bid is credible I don't think it's fair that some countries have hosted more than once and others have never had the opportunity
I agree to an extent, but it should always be somewhere with an existing infrastructure, a football history, or one in which football is becoming popular. Places like Qatar don't tick any of those boxes. You can say that Russia deserve the opportunity, but it's absolute bullshit that an organisation can say they want to end racism and homophobia in football and then reward f***ing Russia with a World Cup. It's pathetic.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:55:30 AM
World Cup in Qatar was ridiculous from the start. Hopefully this will put a stop to it.
Agreed it probably should have been UAE, however the November world cup is fine by me, if a few £200,000 a week footballers are upset by missing a few weeks summer holidays then they can put their notice in and go and work for sports direct on a zero hour contract
Wouldn't get soldiers moaning about the heat would you? Makes me sick.
:lol:
Post by: bigfella on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:58:18 AM
Andrew Jennings
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
That's the guy they interviewed on Colin Murray's show on Talksport yesterday who was understandably overjoyed at this turn of events ;D
He reckons the evidence he gave the FBI is enough to send the whole lot of them down, including Blatter.
Also said they'll have to re-allocate the next two world cups, with 2018 likely coming to England, with Holland and Belgium as another possibility and the 2022 finals going to the USA.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:00:11 PM
Andrew Jennings
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
That's the guy they interviewed on Colin Murray's show on Talksport yesterday who was understandably overjoyed at this turn of events ;D
He reckons the evidence he gave the FBI is enough to send the whole lot of them down, including Blatter.
Also said they'll have to re-allocate the next two world cups, with 2018 likely coming to England, with Holland and Belgium as another possibility and the 2022 finals going to the USA.
:harry: Must not get excited.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:03:51 PM
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:04:56 PM
World Cup in Qatar was ridiculous from the start. Hopefully this will put a stop to it.
Agreed it probably should have been UAE, however the November world cup is fine by me, if a few £200,000 a week footballers are upset by missing a few weeks summer holidays then they can put their notice in and go and work for sports direct on a zero hour contract
No, it should not be another horrible state with no tradition in football. You're completely missing the point if you simply think it's from the point of view of a player this is not a sensible idea.
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:05:03 PM
Either way, World Cups in accessible locations is a :thup:
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:05:09 PM
I still think Russia and Qatar have a legitimate right to host the world cup it's just the process that needs investigating
How does a country of only 2m people (200k Qataris) which is about as big as metropolitan London with only one conurbation which comes close to being called a city (about the population of Newcastle) and with a history of discrimination, expliotation and grave human rights abuses but, notably, absolutely no history or tradition in football have the 'right' to hold a world cup?
Oh, and it's as hot as the sun too.
Because they gave the biggest bribe
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:06:16 PM
England came bottom of the voting like so it's not like it's next in line.
Either way, World Cups in accessible locations is a :thup:
Surely it would be a revote if the entire thing was seen as being undemocratic? Other potential hosts would have surely given bribes as well...
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:07:27 PM
England came bottom of the voting like so it's not like it's next in line.
Either way, World Cups in accessible locations is a :thup:
Surely it would be a revote if the entire thing was seen as being undemocratic? Other potential hosts would have surely given bribes as well...
You'd like to think so. Anyway, we'll see.
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:07:38 PM
:lol:
Post by: Pip on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:09:44 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:10:06 PM
My mind has gone completely blank
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:10:37 PM
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:11:26 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:12:38 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:16:39 PM
Money Talks...
Is the Fifa election still happening today?
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:21:56 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:29:18 PM
Andrew Jennings
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
if blatter goes down man :sweetjesus:
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:30:36 PM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:30:59 PM
Andrew Jennings
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
if blatter goes down man :sweetjesus:
there may be peace on earth :lol:
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:31:24 PM
Post by: cp40 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:32:08 PM
Andrew Jennings
@AAndrewJennings
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
:megusta:
That's the guy they interviewed on Colin Murray's show on Talksport yesterday who was understandably overjoyed at this turn of events ;D
He reckons the evidence he gave the FBI is enough to send the whole lot of them down, including Blatter.
Also said they'll have to re-allocate the next two world cups, with 2018 likely coming to England, with Holland and Belgium as another possibility and the 2022 finals going to the USA.
:harry: Must not get excited.
Hilarious if a World cup is held here in 2018, run by an association that has replaced FIFA, and watched by cetain individuals, From Prison Cells. :lol:
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:33:38 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:35:21 PM
What's the issue with a November/December world cup ?
:lol: Are you kidding? It's half way through every country's season. Before even getting into what a logistical nightmare that is, you're asking players to go out there in the ridiculous heat, asking them to compete for the biggest prize of all and put everything into it, then come back without injury, fatigue, and perform as they were before going away. It's f***ing mind-bogglingly stupid.
Post by: tgarve on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:36:14 PM
Post by: Kanji on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:36:47 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:38:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CeKvvXM.jpg)
Just look at that man.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:41:06 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:43:58 PM
chopey is on the troll rampage, has to be.
Got to be...
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:45:28 PM
chopey is on the troll rampage, has to be.
100% not, if the FA's around the world can't organise their leagues with 7 years notice to compete for 6 weeks then there is something wrong, and I hate the issue of players been to tired to play a few games of football
Post by: cp40 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:46:40 PM
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:47:56 PM
Maybe a giggs, but did anyone hear the African Bloke on Nicky Campbells show on Radio5 defending Blatter? :lol: :lol:
Saw him on the news channel, ridiculous.
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:51:24 PM
chopey is on the troll rampage, has to be.
100% not, if the FA's around the world can't organise their leagues with 7 years notice to compete for 6 weeks then there is something wrong, and I hate the issue of players been to tired to play a few games of football
A few games of football? You mean the World Cup Finals - the biggest and most important football tournament to players around the world, being played in 40-50 degree heat? Aye, right oh. :lol:
and don't you think it's daft to say that there's something wrong if the FAs around the world can't organise themselves, when FIFA are the ones that are massively corrupt and didn't even organise themselves to account for the fact that it would have to be held in winter? It's a load of s**** man, Qatar isn't even a f***ing country and deserve exactly nothing.
Post by: taxfree on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:57:29 PM
Maybe a giggs, but did anyone hear the African Bloke on Nicky Campbells show on Radio5 defending Blatter? :lol: :lol:
Think you'll find there'll be loads of those. Latest is the "Asian soccer federation".
Which is why Blatter might actually still be in a job after all this. Ludicrous stuff, really.
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:05:08 PM
The 40 to 50 degree heat is in the summer it's more like 30 in the winter that's why it's been moved, I agree that Qatar shouldn't host but the organization issue is a shambles
Is it hell man, you're being incredibly naive. It can happen and can be organised, but that's not even remotely the point. FIFA and Qatar are the ones that have been disorganised and expected everyone else to cater to them, when there were better alternatives that didn't require every FA in the Europe (at least) to change their season for a corrupt organisation and corrupt country where people are being exploited and are dying for it to be ready.
Clubs will have players going away to a World Cup in exhausting conditions and have to expect injuries to players that they pay the wages for. The entire thing is just a massive farce.
Post by: Flip on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:05:18 PM
This should be the least pertinent argument against a Qatar World Cup, especially if FIFA had been sensible instead of spending 2-3 years talking about creating clouds, changing the climate, and other nonsense. :lol: Qatar was given the tournament 12 years in advance, and even now there are more than seven years to simply adjust the calendar for one year. It is also in a sense unfair, that some countries could essentially never host the World's greatest event because of Europe's schedule. Saudi Arabia, for example, has a fairly storied history in the game, but could never host a summer World Cup. In all likelihood, it goes off without a problem in seven years, the financial backing is massive and the host country is a safer proposition than Russia, Brazil, or South Africa.chopey is on the troll rampage, has to be.
100% not, if the FA's around the world can't organise their leagues with 7 years notice to compete for 6 weeks then there is something wrong, and I hate the issue of players been to tired to play a few games of football
As always the real issue has been the predetermined nature of Qatar's selection because of euros/dollars changing hands despite Qatar not meeting the criteria set out beforehand, and the morality of Qatar's method in creating a WC.
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:12:43 PM
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:13:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGCAGzqUUAAALSL.jpg)
Post by: maybe_next_year on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:16:39 PM
Every country in the world should have the chance to host a world cup and not just the one's that fit into a nice little schedule
even when giving it to a country is a death sentence for hundreds of workers? I'd argue human life is a bit more important than letting everyone get a chance at hosting a few games of football like.
Post by: Elric on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:17:07 PM
Edit: at Fifa 16, that is. Not the cheapness of human life in Qatar.
Post by: magpie1892 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:17:16 PM
The 40 to 50 degree heat is in the summer it's more like 30 in the winter that's why it's been moved, I agree that Qatar shouldn't host but the organization issue is a shambles
Optimum temperature for football player health and performance is 16 degrees Centigrade and THAT figure came from a doctor at Qatar's Aspire Sports Hospital...
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:20:38 PM
Have to say I'm enjoying the Team America: World Police aspect of this. Global game? f*** it, we're cleaning this s*** up.It's without doubt the most impressed I've arguably ever been with any of this Team America stuff. It was clear everyone else was never going near it when it was mind bogglingly obviously corrupt so fair f***ing play.
Post by: firetotheworks on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:21:08 PM
Every country in the world should have the chance to host a world cup and not just the one's that fit into a nice little scheduleQatar isn't really even a real country man.. Nor are the most worthy going by the ideal world scenario of every country deserving a chance. It's not a charity, country's should have an infrastructure and be developed. You wouldn't have the world cup in North Korea, this is no different.
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:25:53 PM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:26:45 PM
The 40 to 50 degree heat is in the summer it's more like 30 in the winter that's why it's been moved, I agree that Qatar shouldn't host but the organization issue is a shambles
Optimum temperature for football player health and performance is 16 degrees Centigrade and THAT figure came from a doctor at Qatar's Aspire Sports Hospital...
Scandinavia it is then for every world cup from now on
Spain was 30 +, Italy was 30 +, Mexico was 30 + USA was 30 + playing football in these temperatures is nothing new .
I need to confirm that I don't think Qatar should host the world they are basically spending £15 billion on worldcupland, but I just strongly believe that every country should have the opportunity to host and shouldn't be restricted by location or temperature or time zones
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:35:05 PM
Post by: Segun Oluwaniyi on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:35:45 PM
Qatar's temperatures in December/January are fine for football. Probably no different than what Spanish players deal with near the end of the season, and definitely less extreme than what was seen at the last World Cup in Brazil, where games were played in an actual rainforest and supporters had to hide from the sun during Netherlands/Mexico. Never mind the Beijing Olympics, which were in a harsh climate in the world's most polluted air. As always, keep players hydrated, have a cooling break if there are unseasonably warm temperatures (I think these should be mandatory in most matches worldwide anyway), and everything will be fine in terms of player safety. That argument is specious, imo.The 40 to 50 degree heat is in the summer it's more like 30 in the winter that's why it's been moved, I agree that Qatar shouldn't host but the organization issue is a shambles
Optimum temperature for football player health and performance is 16 degrees Centigrade and THAT figure came from a doctor at Qatar's Aspire Sports Hospital...
Post by: Crayola Kid on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:55:13 PM
Have to say I'm enjoying the Team America: World Police aspect of this. Global game? f*** it, we're cleaning this s*** up.It's without doubt the most impressed I've arguably ever been with any of this Team America stuff. It was clear everyone else was never going near it when it was mind bogglingly obviously corrupt so fair f***ing play.
unless: http://stopwar.org.uk/news/fifa-vote-to-kick-israel-out-of-world-football-conveniently-blocked-by-us-intervention
(coincidence, surely)
Post by: Raconteur on Thursday 28 May 2015, 01:55:59 PM
Didn't Qatar actually win on the premise that the WC would be held in the summer, but this wasn't going to be an issue as all the stadia would have air conditioning. Following the vote, it was then revealed that the climate controlled stadia was in fact a load of s**** and they were moving it to winter. They won on a lie, most probably on the back of a bribe, and Qatar should not be holding it.
Yes. This is exactly how it happened. Moving goalposts to the extreme
Post by: magpie1892 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:02:49 PM
Didn't Qatar actually win on the premise that the WC would be held in the summer, but this wasn't going to be an issue as all the stadia would have air conditioning.
Yes, that was a cornerstone of their pitch. I was editing a magazine in Qatar at the time when the FIFA inspectors turned up in 2010. The heat - and the fact that the 'technology' Qatar claimed was going to be able to cool the stadiums (what they would have done about the rest of the country I know not) didn't actually exist, then or now - is why Qatar's bid came last, by some distance, of the nine submissions for the 2018/2022 World Cups.
Russia came 2nd last.
England came top.
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:03:04 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:09:33 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
:lol:
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:11:51 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
Personally think it should be held in Asia every year.
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:16:17 PM
Post by: magpie1892 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:20:19 PM
Sepp Blatter is going to go from claiming to be in best of health when running for re-election to being wheeled into courtrooms with an oxygen tank, I guarantee.
Some great stuff on Sky News right now. Platini asked Blatter to resign. Blatter refused. Platini has not ruled out taking UEFA out of FIFA, etc...
Explosive stuff...
Post by: Flip on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:20:41 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
Seems to be a fair few who actually agree with this though... Or Europe + Aussie + US. At the end of the day a well run FIFA would never have voted for Qatar. But saying that a World Cup should only be played in countries where there are facilities and infrastructure in place already actually takes away a huge majority of nations who deserve a chance to host. FIFA should promote development in countries, because that's the power football has. A well run FIFA organization wouldn't pocket the profit made in Brazil for example and let the tax-payers pay for their party. FIFA should invest all their profits back into football by many different means including one of them being is infrastructure such as footballing stadiums and easier access to stadiums in countries where they don't work.
Enough of money being pocketed, it's a non-profit organization with a huge balance which should be distributed in many different ways. So many parts of the world where children don't even have a pitch to play on. The World Cup in South Africa was a nice idea, unfortunately politicians robbed the people of one of the benefits of having one there.
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:21:00 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
Personally think it should be held in Asia every year.
Happy endings?
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:21:48 PM
Sepp Blatter is going to go from claiming to be in best of health when running for re-election to being wheeled into courtrooms with an oxygen tank, I guarantee.
Should produce some fun memes at least
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:21:52 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:22:05 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
Seems to be a fair few who actually agree with this though... Or Europe + Aussie + US. At the end of the day a well run FIFA would never have voted for Qatar. But saying that a World Cup should only be played in countries where there are facilities and infrastructure in place already actually takes away a huge majority of nations who deserve a chance to host. FIFA should promote development in countries, because that's the power football has. A well run FIFA organization wouldn't pocket the profit made in Brazil for example and let the tax-payers pay for their party. FIFA should invest all their profits back into football by many different means including one of them being is infrastructure such as footballing stadiums and easier access to stadiums in countries where they don't work.
Enough of money being pocketed, it's a non-profit organization with a huge balance which should be distributed in many different ways. So many parts of the world where children don't even have a pitch to play on. The World Cup in South Africa was a nice idea, unfortunately politicians robbed the people of one of the benefits of having one there.
I was joking, however, I do think there should be certain levels of criteria to host such an event.
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:22:31 PM
I've always felt that Newcastle and Philadelphia should co-host every World Cup, personally.
Too much travelling between games.
Post by: Flip on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:25:41 PM
Personally think it should never go out of Europe
Seems to be a fair few who actually agree with this though... Or Europe + Aussie + US. At the end of the day a well run FIFA would never have voted for Qatar. But saying that a World Cup should only be played in countries where there are facilities and infrastructure in place already actually takes away a huge majority of nations who deserve a chance to host. FIFA should promote development in countries, because that's the power football has. A well run FIFA organization wouldn't pocket the profit made in Brazil for example and let the tax-payers pay for their party. FIFA should invest all their profits back into football by many different means including one of them being is infrastructure such as footballing stadiums and easier access to stadiums in countries where they don't work.
Enough of money being pocketed, it's a non-profit organization with a huge balance which should be distributed in many different ways. So many parts of the world where children don't even have a pitch to play on. The World Cup in South Africa was a nice idea, unfortunately politicians robbed the people of one of the benefits of having one there.
I was joking, however, I do think there should be certain levels of criteria to host such an event.
Oh I agree. But some people seem to think that the criteria should be built on things that doesn't apply to 98% of nations which would mean northern Europe + US hosting it every time. I look forward to a World Cup in England though.
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:28:03 PM
Post by: Flip on Thursday 28 May 2015, 02:30:05 PM
Let's give it to Scotland, they can vote to see if they want it or not.
:lol:
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:01:29 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:02:10 PM
Seems to be a fair few who actually agree with this though... Or Europe + Aussie + US. At the end of the day a well run FIFA would never have voted for Qatar. But saying that a World Cup should only be played in countries where there are facilities and infrastructure in place already actually takes away a huge majority of nations who deserve a chance to host. FIFA should promote development in countries, because that's the power football has. A well run FIFA organization wouldn't pocket the profit made in Brazil for example and let the tax-payers pay for their party. FIFA should invest all their profits back into football by many different means including one of them being is infrastructure such as footballing stadiums and easier access to stadiums in countries where they don't work.
Enough of money being pocketed, it's a non-profit organization with a huge balance which should be distributed in many different ways. So many parts of the world where children don't even have a pitch to play on. The World Cup in South Africa was a nice idea, unfortunately politicians robbed the people of one of the benefits of having one there.
:thup: the only money a national government should be spending on events like the WC/Olympics is on infrastructure that will benefit the whole population.
There's probably about 40/50 countries who could realistically hold a WC themselves or in co-op. It's really not that difficult.
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:02:51 PM
Japan & Korea was a great World Cup. South Africa was fine although there were some problems. Just hold it somewhere that's realistic, it's not hard really.
Right, we're not saying that every location has to be perfect in every way.
Just as long as it isn't a tiny state AND has a record of horrific human rights abuses AND has no footballing tradition whatsoever AND is a billion degrees in the summer.
Post by: HawK on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:12:55 PM
Japan & Korea was a great World Cup. South Africa was fine although there were some problems. Just hold it somewhere that's realistic, it's not hard really.
Right, we're not saying that every location has to be perfect in every way.
Just as long as it isn't a tiny state AND has a record of horrific human rights abuses AND has no footballing tradition whatsoever AND is a billion degrees in the summer.
And where it's illegal to effectively exist for approximately 10% of the population of the world :lol:
Post by: brummie on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:17:45 PM
Japan & Korea was a great World Cup. South Africa was fine although there were some problems. Just hold it somewhere that's realistic, it's not hard really.
Right, we're not saying that every location has to be perfect in every way.
Just as long as it isn't a tiny state AND has a record of horrific human rights abuses AND has no footballing tradition whatsoever AND is a billion degrees in the summer.
And where it's illegal to effectively exist for approximately 10% of the population of the world :lol:
Yes, indeed.
So that's FIFA who go through the motions of fighting racism and inequality, awarding the next tournament to Russia - a country with a significant problem with both racism and homoephobia - and Qatar, which is amongst the few "modern" countries with an even more pitiable human rights record than Russia. One which is using slave labour to construct the stadia.
Brilliant.
It's also good to see the sponsors saying today they're concerned. I can only imagine they'll manage to overcome these concerns as easily as they've done for the past couple of decades in which the world and his wife knew FIFA were corrupt as f***.
Still, what can we expect from the sort of companies who, themselves, stop worrying about equality as soon as it might impinge on their ability to churn out cheap s*** from Asian sweatshops running, to a large extent, on child labour.
Football is a massive turd of hypocrisy from top to bottom.
The only really surprising thing is how many of us, otherwise sane, moral, thoughtful people manage to turn a blind eye to it so successfully.
Post by: cp40 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 03:38:41 PM
Maybe a giggs, but did anyone hear the African Bloke on Nicky Campbells show on Radio5 defending Blatter? :lol: :lol:
Think you'll find there'll be loads of those. Latest is the "Asian soccer federation".
Which is why Blatter might actually still be in a job after all this. Ludicrous stuff, really.
yep- but this one man :lol: wish i knew how to find stuff from radio5, this was exceptional and worth a listen.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:31:41 PM
too he's as bad as Blatter, he after all voted for Qatar which even Blatter didn't do (iirc) and is too chicken s*** to stand against him so sends out this prince ali dude to get beaten, frankly fifa uefa all the other confederations and in all liklihood the vast majority of the FA's are corrupt beyond redemption and need to be scrapped and started again.Sepp Blatter is going to go from claiming to be in best of health when running for re-election to being wheeled into courtrooms with an oxygen tank, I guarantee.
Some great stuff on Sky News right now. Platini asked Blatter to resign. Blatter refused. Platini has not ruled out taking UEFA out of FIFA, etc...
Explosive stuff...
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:35:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Completely affects them if bribes were being made in US dollars, which presumably they were.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:39:34 PM
Blatter: "I must stress that those who are corrupt in football are in a minority ... football cannot be the exception to the rule."
I wonder if he actually thinks anyone buys this bullshit
Post by: cp40 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:42:02 PM
Maybe a giggs, but did anyone hear the African Bloke on Nicky Campbells show on Radio5 defending Blatter? :lol: :lol:
Think you'll find there'll be loads of those. Latest is the "Asian soccer federation".
Which is why Blatter might actually still be in a job after all this. Ludicrous stuff, really.
yep- but this one man :lol: wish i knew how to find stuff from radio5, this was exceptional and worth a listen.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05w7tz5
41mins.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:45:19 PM
Putin talking out his arse, saying the US should've stayed out of it given nowt happened on their soil. Obviously needs to read up on US law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Completely affects them if bribes were being made in US dollars, which presumably they were.
Troll Master P up to his usual shenanigans. TBF I'd be perfectly fine with Obama saying, "Yeah, we're doing this because f*** Russia."
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:49:18 PM
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:51:00 PM
Putin talking out his arse, saying the US should've stayed out of it given nowt happened on their soil. Obviously needs to read up on US law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Completely affects them if bribes were being made in US dollars, which presumably they were.
Troll Master P up to his usual shenanigans. TBF I'd be perfectly fine with Obama saying, "Yeah, we're doing this because f*** Russia."
Been investigating since 2009, haven't they? Puts this "America did it because they didn't get the WC" bollocks to bed.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:57:03 PM
Putin talking out his arse, saying the US should've stayed out of it given nowt happened on their soil. Obviously needs to read up on US law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Completely affects them if bribes were being made in US dollars, which presumably they were.
Troll Master P up to his usual shenanigans. TBF I'd be perfectly fine with Obama saying, "Yeah, we're doing this because f*** Russia."
Been investigating since 2009, haven't they? Puts this "America did it because they didn't get the WC" bollocks to bed.
Yeah it's nonsense. Gonna hear even more drivel if they revote and the U.S. ends up getting 2022 though. Why I'm kinda pulling for Australia. I'm not worried about never seeing another U.S. WC in my lifetime, it's bound to happen sooner rather than later regardless.
Post by: Anon on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:57:29 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Belgium and Holland would be mint, seem to remember Euro 2000 being a good tournament except for the English fans... Australian time difference though :undecided:
Post by: Disco on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:57:41 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
I think Morocco may have soiled their sheet after the AFCON debacle, otherwise I'd agree (bar Canada unless they become marginally good first).
Shame is, sans Putin and rampant oppression of all non-straight white Russian nationalists, Russia would actually be a really decent host. Massive, interesting country with a great footballing history and loads of suitable host cities. Same with China (bar the footballing history).
Somewhere like Poland would probably be able to host it too.
Post by: Mike on Thursday 28 May 2015, 04:59:42 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:00:28 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
I think Morocco may have soiled their sheet after the AFCON debacle, otherwise I'd agree (bar Canada unless they become marginally good first).
Shame is, sans Putin and rampant oppression of all non-straight white Russian nationalists, Russia would actually be a really decent host. Massive, interesting country with a great footballing history and loads of suitable host cities.
It's a shame that we probably won't see another African host for many, many years.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:00:59 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
Just imagine the tea ladies! Never mind the lady fans. :lol:
Post by: Parky on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:02:03 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
What player would dare score against them there? :lol:
Post by: morpeth mag on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:20:58 PM
Putin talking out his arse, saying the US should've stayed out of it given nowt happened on their soil. Obviously needs to read up on US law.He's worried that his kick backs might be in dollars, in a Swiss bank account, and that the next visit abroad might require a US visa extension.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act
Completely affects them if bribes were being made in US dollars, which presumably they were.
Post by: LucaAltieri on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:27:52 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
You couldn't select Livermore for that squad.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:46:50 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
while it's not a place that excites me in the slightest and never has been I think if you take Qatar off them then it'd have to Australia like
Post by: hakka on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:54:08 PM
How the f*** is Blatter not resigned over this? It's all happened on HIS watch. Any organisation where stuff like this happens the head of it steps down. It's the respectful thing to do to kick off change for good.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 28 May 2015, 05:56:12 PM
FIFA must be bricking it now. FBI making serious plays here.
How the f*** is Blatter not resigned over this? It's all happened on HIS watch. Any organisation where stuff like this happens the head of it steps down. It's the respectful thing to do to kick off change for good.
exactly, it's one major reason why they get paid a fortune as well...he's such an utter c***
can you imagine Hayward after the GoM leak: "can't watch everyone all the time, lol"
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Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 28 May 2015, 06:50:14 PM
Personally think it should never go out of EuropeEurope should get one out of every two IMO. Not even taking the p*ss.
Post by: Shak on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:01:46 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
What player would dare score against them there? :lol:
Pretty much anyone who doesn't still think it's the early 90's, I'd imagine.
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:02:46 PM
While we're fiercely debating the subject of who should/shouldn't be allowed to host a WC, I'd like to see first-time hosts Colombia, Australia/NZ, Canada, Belgium/Netherlands, and Morocco at some point.
Jesus, a world cup in Colombia.
What player would dare score against them there? :lol:
Pretty much anyone who doesn't still think it's the early 90's, I'd imagine.
:thup:
Solid burn also.
Post by: henke on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:09:06 PM
Post by: chopey on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:32:49 PM
Everybody in the world wants Blatter gone, apart from himself and halfway dozen of his pals. In any other business he'd be long gone. Yet there he still is, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in ccharge to present the next World cup in Moscow.
Ashleys Newcastle aren't to keen on sacking incompetence
Post by: Crumpy Gunt on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:34:21 PM
Post by: triggs on Thursday 28 May 2015, 07:51:35 PM
UEFA should plan their own tournament for 2022.The Euros?
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Thursday 28 May 2015, 08:01:06 PM
I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
— Andrew Jennings (@AAndrewJennings) May 28, 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/28/fifa-expose-british-press-andrew-jennings-sunday-times-corruption-fa
Post by: Kimbo on Thursday 28 May 2015, 08:29:07 PM
Everybody in the world wants Blatter gone, apart from himself and halfway dozen of his pals. In any other business he'd be long gone. Yet there he still is, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in ccharge to present the next World cup in Moscow.
Most FA's want him to stay, he will win comfortably tomorrow, even a fair amount of Europeans will vote for him. This is the problem, I think this goes way beyond FIFA, Blatter, and a few of his mates. The FBI will make their arrests but after that it is up to the big European nations to be bullies and force change, make everyone else get in line, even if that means f***ing up the next 2 world cups for everyone.
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 28 May 2015, 08:30:58 PM
Everybody in the world wants Blatter gone, apart from himself and halfway dozen of his pals. In any other business he'd be long gone. Yet there he still is, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in ccharge to present the next World cup in Moscow.
Most FA's want him to stay, he will win comfortably tomorrow, even a fair amount of Europeans will vote for him. This is the problem, I think this goes way beyond FIFA, Blatter, and a few of his mates. The FBI will make their arrests but after that it is up to the big European nations to be bullies and force change, make everyone else get in line, even if that means f***ing up the next 2 world cups for everyone.
Prince Ali currently has 90 votes apparently. Needs 105.
Post by: Parky on Thursday 28 May 2015, 08:52:25 PM
UEFA should plan their own tournament for 2022.
Post by: afar on Thursday 28 May 2015, 09:08:15 PM
Everybody in the world wants Blatter gone, apart from himself and halfway dozen of his pals. In any other business he'd be long gone. Yet there he still is, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's still in ccharge to present the next World cup in Moscow.
Most FA's want him to stay, he will win comfortably tomorrow, even a fair amount of Europeans will vote for him. This is the problem, I think this goes way beyond FIFA, Blatter, and a few of his mates. The FBI will make their arrests but after that it is up to the big European nations to be bullies and force change, make everyone else get in line, even if that means f***ing up the next 2 world cups for everyone.
Prince Ali currently has 90 votes apparently. Needs 105.
If he can't beat Blatter after all this s*** then there is no hope really, the corruption is beyond fixable. Disband the whole organisation and start afresh with a new governing body.
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 28 May 2015, 09:49:27 PM
Had a 25-minute chat with this chap today, he's an absolute legend. Really chatty and passionate about ratting them out. He's been digging on FIFA since 2002.I gave the FBI the crucial documents that triggered yesterday's arrests. There will be more to come. Blatter is a target.
— Andrew Jennings (@AAndrewJennings) May 28, 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/28/fifa-expose-british-press-andrew-jennings-sunday-times-corruption-fa
I remember reading Foul by him the first summer I really committed to watching football. Never thought this day would come then, feels so good.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:16:48 PM
Personally think it should never go out of EuropeEurope should get one out of every two IMO. Not even taking the p*ss.
That's probably fair. There's just not enough other locations capable of hosting it to only have Europe host it every 3-4 times.
Post by: Jackie Broon on Thursday 28 May 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Does Blatter even need cash bribes tho ? I bet his FIFA expense account pays for every thing him and his family possibly need. It might be a bit harder to nail him but I hope they do.
I get the impression that Blatter's predilection is power rather than more and more money. He's established and maintained that power by turning a blind eye to others indulging their predilection for money. So it may well be that nothing is directly traceable back to him.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:57:34 AM
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FIFA scandal stretches to Traffic, agency involved in Barça's Douglas signing
Brazilian agency Traffic, who were involved in Barcelona's signings of Henrique, Keirrison and Douglas, is under suspicion for bribing FIFA officials.
The multinational marketing company, which has subsidaries such as the football agency Traffic Sport International, has been caught up in the investiagtion which saw several FIFA officials arrested on Wednesday morning.
Traffic's owner and founder, Jose Hawilla, is one of the men who is suggested to have paid the FIFA officials in order to win contracts.
The Brazilian subsidary of traffic is an old acquaintace of FA Barcelona, with several players, including Douglas last summer, being signed through them. However, the signings have always been linked with poor performances.
According to sources close to the investigation, Hawilla is accused of paying officials in order to gain sponsorship deals and the television rights to various tournaments in the CONCACAF region.
:lol:
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:10:02 AM
Does Blatter even need cash bribes tho ? I bet his FIFA expense account pays for every thing him and his family possibly need. It might be a bit harder to nail him but I hope they do.Of course he does. Ok FIFA might pay for a lot of things on expenses but there will be things they can't be seen as paying for.
Also what happens when he does finally leave FIFA? He is used to a very expensive lifestyle, he needs to pay for it somehow in future.
How an accountant with no known interest in football was able to be the head of world football for so long is beyond me.
As much as I don't want Blatter to win on Friday, I can't see much change coming from the prince of Jordan. The problem with FIFA is that the alternatives are equally as corrupt and have as little in interest in football than anyone else there and more concern about money. Blatter has managed to stay as president for so long because people running against him have been Blatters mates who have been making the deals for Blatter and when they have decided to go for a power challenge they have either conveniently step aside just before the elections to allow Blatter to win unopposed, or have been thrown under the bus by Blatter.
Post by: biggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:24:58 AM
I guess if Blatter was guilty he would have been arrested unless there is more to come and one of the numerous arrested will sing like a bird to take him down
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:56:01 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/28/football/who-is-chuck-blazer/
I guess if Blatter was guilty he would have been arrested unless there is more to come and one of the numerous arrested will sing like a bird to take him down
Even if Blatter is guilty and he quite clearly is, they would never go straight for him because in all likelihood they would never have the evidence. It's just how things are done, get the smaller ones first get them to some confess some crap and hopefully that gives you enough ammo to take Blatter down.
Post by: Klaus on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:50:00 AM
Post by: Kanji on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:35:21 AM
Post by: chopey on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:07:08 AM
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
Post by: Flip on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:23:51 AM
This been posted?QuoteFIFA scandal stretches to Traffic, agency involved in Barça's Douglas signing
Brazilian agency Traffic, who were involved in Barcelona's signings of Henrique, Keirrison and Douglas, is under suspicion for bribing FIFA officials.
The multinational marketing company, which has subsidaries such as the football agency Traffic Sport International, has been caught up in the investiagtion which saw several FIFA officials arrested on Wednesday morning.
Traffic's owner and founder, Jose Hawilla, is one of the men who is suggested to have paid the FIFA officials in order to win contracts.
The Brazilian subsidary of traffic is an old acquaintace of FA Barcelona, with several players, including Douglas last summer, being signed through them. However, the signings have always been linked with poor performances.
According to sources close to the investigation, Hawilla is accused of paying officials in order to gain sponsorship deals and the television rights to various tournaments in the CONCACAF region.
:lol:
They're probably involved in 95% of Brazilian transfers as they own all of them. Bunch of pricks the lot.
Post by: ToonTastic on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:10:07 AM
Post by: Skeletor on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:37:57 AM
If they're going to start looking into agents, there'll be none left!
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7bzoe5dtv1r8dy8go7_r2_250.gif)
Post by: Shak on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:46:17 AM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:05:04 AM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:05:21 AM
If they're going to start looking into agents, there'll be none left!
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7bzoe5dtv1r8dy8go7_r2_250.gif)
Spot on :lol: :lol:
Post by: ToonTastic on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:07:58 AM
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:05:56 AM
If he wins today then what's the point in FIFA ? According to the BBC he already has the Asian and African votes which is almost half of all votes so no matter what happens with today's vote the football world is split between corrupt lesser countries and Europe and the USA so surly that can't work .
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
The voting procedure is a total joke mind. CONCACAF having about 11 less votes than UEFA or whatever it is plus those you mention and its little chance he would be f***ed off. Its about time votes were linked to the FIFA rankings so New Caledonia dont have the same voting rights as Brasil, Germany or Spain. Utterly mental how much value is put on these backwater nations just to help swing the vote
Post by: Jackie Broon on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:36:17 AM
If he isn't actually guilty of corruption itself, he will at least be guilty of 'turning a blind eye' to it all, whatever the legal term would be for that would be. No way he didn't have any idea of suspicious activity that was happening below him.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Rupert_Murdoch_-_Flickr_-_Eva_Rinaldi_Celebrity_and_Live_Music_Photographer.jpg/220px-Rupert_Murdoch_-_Flickr_-_Eva_Rinaldi_Celebrity_and_Live_Music_Photographer.jpg)
Post by: Flip on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:00:54 AM
If he wins today then what's the point in FIFA ? According to the BBC he already has the Asian and African votes which is almost half of all votes so no matter what happens with today's vote the football world is split between corrupt lesser countries and Europe and the USA so surly that can't work .
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
The voting procedure is a total joke mind. CONCACAF having about 11 less votes than UEFA or whatever it is plus those you mention and its little chance he would be f***ed off. Its about time votes were linked to the FIFA rankings so New Caledonia dont have the same voting rights as Brasil, Germany or Spain. Utterly mental how much value is put on these backwater nations just to help swing the vote
I'd rather we had no vote at all, bunch of corrupt oldies sitting there collecting bribe moneys. Rather Spain wouldn't either. Be better if World Cup could be hosted everywhere but only northern European countries could vote for a president :lol:
Post by: Roger Kint on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:03:01 AM
If he wins today then what's the point in FIFA ? According to the BBC he already has the Asian and African votes which is almost half of all votes so no matter what happens with today's vote the football world is split between corrupt lesser countries and Europe and the USA so surly that can't work .
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
The voting procedure is a total joke mind. CONCACAF having about 11 less votes than UEFA or whatever it is plus those you mention and its little chance he would be f***ed off. Its about time votes were linked to the FIFA rankings so New Caledonia dont have the same voting rights as Brasil, Germany or Spain. Utterly mental how much value is put on these backwater nations just to help swing the vote
I'd rather we had no vote at all, bunch of corrupt oldies sitting there collecting bribe moneys. Rather Spain wouldn't either. Be better if World Cup could be hosted everywhere but only northern European countries could vote for a president :lol:
:lol: Theres some horrendous pricks lurking in every FA mind. Ours is full of dithering old t***s as well. Whole of FIFA stinks, makes UEFA look amazing.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:03:04 AM
If he wins today then what's the point in FIFA ? According to the BBC he already has the Asian and African votes which is almost half of all votes so no matter what happens with today's vote the football world is split between corrupt lesser countries and Europe and the USA so surly that can't work .
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
The voting procedure is a total joke mind. CONCACAF having about 11 less votes than UEFA or whatever it is plus those you mention and its little chance he would be f***ed off. Its about time votes were linked to the FIFA rankings so New Caledonia dont have the same voting rights as Brasil, Germany or Spain. Utterly mental how much value is put on these backwater nations just to help swing the vote
I'd rather we had no vote at all, bunch of corrupt oldies sitting there collecting bribe moneys. Rather Spain wouldn't either. Be better if World Cup could be hosted everywhere but only northern European countries could vote for a president :lol:
Harsh, but fair.
Post by: Flip on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:14:43 AM
If he wins today then what's the point in FIFA ? According to the BBC he already has the Asian and African votes which is almost half of all votes so no matter what happens with today's vote the football world is split between corrupt lesser countries and Europe and the USA so surly that can't work .
FIFA needs to disband with a new organisation set up and every 4 years each federation gets the chance to host.
The voting procedure is a total joke mind. CONCACAF having about 11 less votes than UEFA or whatever it is plus those you mention and its little chance he would be f***ed off. Its about time votes were linked to the FIFA rankings so New Caledonia dont have the same voting rights as Brasil, Germany or Spain. Utterly mental how much value is put on these backwater nations just to help swing the vote
I'd rather we had no vote at all, bunch of corrupt oldies sitting there collecting bribe moneys. Rather Spain wouldn't either. Be better if World Cup could be hosted everywhere but only northern European countries could vote for a president :lol:
Harsh, but fair.
:lol: I've learnt that any country speaking a language derived from Latin should have no vote.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:22:50 AM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:43:17 AM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:43:38 AM
Viva Sepp Blatter
Post by: Parky on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:16:42 AM
Post by: steve_69 on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:30:15 AM
(http://s7.postimg.org/jzpvpi3uj/fifa.jpg)
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:32:29 AM
Post by: loki679 on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:49:59 AM
Argh God, how amazing would it be if Blatter got made to work in Qatar constructing the stadiums man. :sweetjesus:
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:05:08 PM
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:08:30 PM
No way he's keeping it up banging her without viagra
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:09:59 PM
The fact that 1200 workers have died in Qatar. Blood is all over FIFA's hands. Horrible, corrupt and needs to be dismantled. Blatter should get tried for f***ing manslaughter.
Link???
This in development of stadiums?
Post by: loki679 on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:11:20 PM
The fact that 1200 workers have died in Qatar. Blood is all over FIFA's hands. Horrible, corrupt and needs to be dismantled. Blatter should get tried for f***ing manslaughter.
Link???
This in development of stadiums?
Have you been staying with Fritzl?
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:12:38 PM
We haven't even got onto them being murderers yet. :lol:
(http://i.imgur.com/CeKvvXM.jpg)
Just look at that man.
Keep in mind that they have 7 years to increase that toll.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:18:55 PM
This been posted?QuoteFIFA scandal stretches to Traffic, agency involved in Barça's Douglas signing
Brazilian agency Traffic, who were involved in Barcelona's signings of Henrique, Keirrison and Douglas, is under suspicion for bribing FIFA officials.
The multinational marketing company, which has subsidaries such as the football agency Traffic Sport International, has been caught up in the investiagtion which saw several FIFA officials arrested on Wednesday morning.
Traffic's owner and founder, Jose Hawilla, is one of the men who is suggested to have paid the FIFA officials in order to win contracts.
The Brazilian subsidary of traffic is an old acquaintace of FA Barcelona, with several players, including Douglas last summer, being signed through them. However, the signings have always been linked with poor performances.
According to sources close to the investigation, Hawilla is accused of paying officials in order to gain sponsorship deals and the television rights to various tournaments in the CONCACAF region.
:lol:
It's been known we have some pretty rotten business partners in Brazil, the company we subcontracted the Brazilian branch of the Barça school is apparently involved in the investigation too.
Post by: Big Geordie on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:22:09 PM
Reporters on site say they've heard nothing
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:23:57 PM
The fact that 1200 workers have died in Qatar. Blood is all over FIFA's hands. Horrible, corrupt and needs to be dismantled. Blatter should get tried for f***ing manslaughter.
Link???
This in development of stadiums?
Have you been staying with Fritzl?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:25:10 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:29:26 PM
That chart is madness, where have these stats come from?
They're at the bottom of the chart dude. :thup:
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:31:11 PM
I've only just seen he's blamed a British and U.S. conspiracy.
(http://i.imgur.com/DcpP1zA.gif)
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:32:37 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:36:04 PM
Oh aye, Hmmmm seems a bit OTT for me, surely that cant be correct.
:lol: ehh?
Post by: Jimburst on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Oh aye, Hmmmm seems a bit OTT for me, surely that cant be correct.
:lol: You been overseeing the construction of Qatari stadiums again Kev? You scamp.
Post by: GallowgateKev on Friday 29 May 2015, 12:53:35 PM
Post by: Hudson on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:25:54 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479
Protesters interrupted the 65th FIFA congress to demand Israel's expulsion from international football's governing body, whilst showing red cards to its members, in Zurich on Friday.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479#mPBSLYwl98eAr38p.99
Post by: taxfree on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:35:49 PM
Not having a good week are they
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479
Protesters interrupted the 65th FIFA congress to demand Israel's expulsion from international football's governing body, whilst showing red cards to its members, in Zurich on Friday.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479#mPBSLYwl98eAr38p.99
Daft c***s.
Post by: Hudson on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:44:21 PM
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 29 May 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:30:01 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:38:09 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:40:43 PM
How do Africa get 54 votes ffs. Europe only has 53.each fifa member gets a vote so san marino have the same amount of say as Brazil, Argentina Germany etc.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:44:26 PM
The biggest problem with FIFA isn't just having a number of corrupt assholes running it, but how easy it is to be corrupt in the system. There needs to be a huge overhaul in how its run, especially the voting process. It's far to easy to buy votes from poorer, developing countries who have just as much say as Germany or Spain. In an ideal scenario Sepp is taken out and the whole ExCo is purged and the next two World Cups are voted on again, but that still leaves a lot of federation leaders who will take money for votes. I wouldn't expect new leaders to be any less corrupt, so hopefully this brings a huge change in the way FIFA is run, otherwise we're still f***ed.
Not a bad thing. Our FA is corrupt to the bone.
Still hoping Villar gets arrested and sent to Gitmo.
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:46:33 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:00:24 PM
Our government has been trying to poke into how the Spanish FA does things for a while, only for FIFA to scream "political interference!" every time and threaten to block spanish sides from tournaments. Hell, one of the real motivations of the aborted strike in La Liga is the fact that the Spanish government wants to audit the Spanish FA's accounts.I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried that s*** with the yanks yet though I suppose the us government is hardly going to give a s*** about what fifa thinks.
Post by: maybe_next_year on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:17:25 PM
Post by: taxfree on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:28:40 PM
Not having a good week are they
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479
Protesters interrupted the 65th FIFA congress to demand Israel's expulsion from international football's governing body, whilst showing red cards to its members, in Zurich on Friday.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=056_1432891479#mPBSLYwl98eAr38p.99
"The Palestinian FA president confirms it has dropped a proposal at the Fifa congress to suspend Israel from international football."
lol
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:34:04 PM
:megusta:
Post by: Ian W on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:37:04 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:38:39 PM
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:38:57 PM
Post by: Mike on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:40:27 PM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
Next up: Wall Stre-ahahahahhahah.
Post by: Anon on Friday 29 May 2015, 03:40:45 PM
Not sure I'm happy with the US wading into everyone's business, but since I hate FIFA I'm ignoring that fact.
It's more FIFA wading in on their business by conducting illegal business on US soil using US banks.
Post by: B-more Mag on Friday 29 May 2015, 04:07:09 PM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
:snod: I mean Loretta Lynch signed the informations on the defendants who pleaded guilty.
Post by: Northerngimp on Friday 29 May 2015, 04:13:10 PM
Go for it America.
Post by: U2 on Friday 29 May 2015, 04:13:58 PM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
So you're saying that they have the Pele of prosecution /archer
Post by: BillClinton on Friday 29 May 2015, 04:31:10 PM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
Next up: Wall Stre-ahahahahhahah.
:lol:
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:19:14 PM
Post by: LFEE on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:22:03 PM
Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:24:14 PM
Post by: Flip on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:25:16 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:25:57 PM
Post by: Kimbo on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:26:27 PM
Imagine a 2nd round of this s***
I tried watching it live, it was men sat around a stall stolen from an airport, chatting and taking their sweet time, while lift music played in the background.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:28:54 PM
Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
Post by: sempuki on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:32:25 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:34:27 PM
Post by: Si on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:34:42 PM
Has Blatter won yet?He's still "counting" the votes before he declares himself Ultimate President.
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:35:11 PM
Why is Platini sitting at the Prince's spot?
It was Platini in a mask this whole time.
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:35:59 PM
Why?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
Post by: STM on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:36:47 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:37:14 PM
Why?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Post by: Hog on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:45:06 PM
Why?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
To be honest it doesn't make a great deal of difference either way, while they're easy to corrupt they don't actually put any decent amount of money or media draw in to make them important to the overall outcome - if things don't get sorted the main, big hitting countries could quite easily boycott FIFA and make it a very poor setup... and it'd be about time too.
While the current situation is on a much larger scale it reminds me of when the PDC split off from the BDO in darts and took all the big names with them, you can't mistreat the main players within the game forever without eventual consequences.
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:48:33 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:50:08 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:52:59 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Votes should count after their own FIFA ranking tbh. 1-10 get so so many votes. 11-20 so so many and so on.
Post by: bealios on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:55:09 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Would you be happy if a all football decisions in this country were dictated by Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal i.e. Distribution of TV money?
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:55:21 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Votes should count after their own FIFA ranking tbh. 1-10 get so so many votes. 11-20 so so many and so on.
Or weighted based on the number of clubs presided over by that particular FA. That way it's not really dependent on the results, just the size of the FA.
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:56:07 PM
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:58:29 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:59:16 PM
You can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Votes should count after their own FIFA ranking tbh. 1-10 get so so many votes. 11-20 so so many and so on.
Or weighted based on the number of clubs presided over by that particular FA. That way it's not really dependent on the results, just the size of the FA.
:thup:
Post by: Kimbo on Friday 29 May 2015, 05:59:23 PM
WTF, no majority, so they do another round. What's the point? Blatter's won.
Drag it out for a few more hours, cops are probably waiting outside.
Post by: Hog on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:01:07 PM
WTF, no majority, so they do another round. What's the point? Blatter's won.
Drag it out for a few more hours, cops are probably waiting outside.
God knows how Blatter is getting any votes other than the corrupt f***ers that kept him around for so long... it just shows how deep the corruption is and how many country's representatives are involved.
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:01:15 PM
Anyone else from Europe was just as capable as Blatter of catering to and influencing the smaller footballing nations from Asia/Africa if they chose to do so. It's just that Blatter was the first one to ever actually give a s*** about us instead of assuming we were just shitty backwater places that deserved the occasional charity appearance at the World Cup and nothing more.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:03:17 PM
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:04:35 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/people-are-criticising-fifa-world-cup-sponsors-with-corrupt-corporate-logos-10280042.html
Post by: Kimbo on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:06:31 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:07:08 PM
Nice one Village Idiot!
Post by: Hog on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:07:40 PM
One country one vote is the standard for international organizations and I don't understand why that should be different for FIFA.
Anyone else from Europe was just as capable as Blatter of catering to and influencing the smaller footballing nations from Asia/Africa if they chose to do so. It's just that Blatter was the first one to ever actually give a s*** about us instead of assuming we were just shitty backwater places that deserved the occasional charity appearance at the World Cup and nothing more.
Aye, it was all part of his evil masterplan - the bloke's like Emperor Palpatine, weaving his web of deceit and corruption through exploiting the weak.
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:08:35 PM
One country one vote is the standard for international organizations and I don't understand why that should be different for FIFA.
Anyone else from Europe was just as capable as Blatter of catering to and influencing the smaller footballing nations from Asia/Africa if they chose to do so. It's just that Blatter was the first one to ever actually give a s*** about us instead of assuming we were just shitty backwater places that deserved the occasional charity appearance at the World Cup and nothing more.
Aye, it was all part of his evil masterplan - the bloke's like Emperor Palpatine, weaving his web of deceit and corruption through exploiting the weak.
It's all politics and he was good at it while other people were s***.
Would have been nicer if he could have pulled it off without all the money exchanging hands, of course.
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:09:59 PM
The idea that those countries have as much say isn't a terrible one, it's just that they don't have as much money as the others so are far more susceptible to being bribed.He isn't bribing every smaller nation in the world. He is treating them well and they in turn want him to continue. Blatter was a massive advocate of the South African world cup and the use of vuvuzelas when others wanted FIFA to ban them, basically getting all of Africa behind him
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:12:08 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:12:51 PM
:thup: Good analogyYou can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Would you be happy if a all football decisions in this country were dictated by Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal i.e. Distribution of TV money?
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:17:06 PM
:thup: Good analogyYou can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Would you be happy if a all football decisions in this country were dictated by Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal i.e. Distribution of TV money?
Right, any sort of system that weights things towards the bigger nations will inevitably lead to them making decisions that secure there hegemony at the expense of the smaller nations, which in turn will lead to the gap between the two only growing larger and larger.
Part of FIFA's purpose is to spread the game worldwide. You can't do that if you have a system that automatically disqualifies you from having a voice if you're s*** at football.
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:17:47 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:17:54 PM
:thup: Good analogyYou can't have a global governing body that only focuses on the elite players. One of the reasons Blatter is so popular is because he treats the smaller and poor nations well. Its like saying the richest guy in America's vote in an election should count for more than an ordinary working class personWhy?Do all these shitty little nothing countries get the same vote as the big countries?
Yes
Absolute disgrace.
The fact that England or Spain could be outvoted by Timor Leste and Montserrat (for example) is a total joke. They have nothing to do with the game.
Yes you can, and no it's not. Football is a non-essential part of society.
Would you be happy if a all football decisions in this country were dictated by Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal i.e. Distribution of TV money?
You mean they're not :razz:
The smaller nations should have a say, unfortunately Fifa is run like a mafia racket, those that are loyal are rewarded and those that aren't get less, a lot of smal nations with equal votes makes it incredibly easy to build a huge power base if you;re corrupt. 1 federation 1 vote may make sense however if the finances etc were all extremely transparent with an independent body with huge powers to police it all, as it is it is asking for corruption.
I do however agree, that Football should not be run by the rich european federations, however imo changing voting systems etc, it's all slightly irrelevant, how football is run over all needs to be completely changed.
Post by: Pixelphish on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:18:19 PM
Post by: midstoon on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:18:34 PM
Post by: 54 on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:18:34 PM
Come on Team America, do it for all of Football.
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:19:25 PM
Apparently Spain voted for Blatter
Nice one Village Idiot!
It's not surprising, our president is also a FIFA vice president. I suppose you can guess who appointed him.
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:20:06 PM
Help me Loretta Lynch, you're my only hope!
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:22:11 PM
Post by: Geordiesned on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:24:20 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:24:37 PM
Post by: Elric on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:24:42 PM
I wish this c*** would hurry up and die.
Post by: TheHoob on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:25:53 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:27:48 PM
Think UEFA will threaten to pull out of the WC now. They'll never do it, but no doubt they'll pretend to.Will they boycott the one that takes place in their federation or the one that their president voted for I wonder
Post by: Sima on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Post by: Hog on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:29:09 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:29:34 PM
Says UEFA's view is that Blatter is responsible for the corruption in FIFA as he is the boss, and there is no reason why he should not step aside.
English FA representative have turned down a role for FIFA.
"You can see that Blatter is moved. However how much of that is acting, I can't say. He says he'll change FIFA, but he's been saying that for 17 years and now FIFA have never been in a worse position."
Interviewer: "So a World Cup without UEFA teams can be a possibility?"
Espelund: "It is a big possibility. We need to show our muscles."
Possibility of a UEFA + USA + Invitees replacement tournament.
Post by: Yorkie on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:29:37 PM
am I at a dropkick murphys gig
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:30:01 PM
Post by: sbnufc on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:32:28 PM
That speech. :lol: "Let's go FIFA let's go!"
am I at a dropkick murphys gig
Standing ovation for it ffs
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:33:25 PM
Post by: Klaus on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:33:31 PM
What an absolute joke. A disgusting, ridiculous and saddening outcome if ever there was one, I have to think now though that the time is right for the main footballing powers to remove themselves from what is quite blatantly a corrupt and limited organisation.I would love to see countries take a strong stance, but it will never happen sadly.
Post by: joeyt on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:34:08 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:35:27 PM
That speech. :lol: "Let's go FIFA let's go!"
am I at a dropkick murphys gig
Standing ovation for it ffs
let's just say it moved me....TO A BIGGER HOUSE
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:36:30 PM
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@Matt5cott: Blatter: "I was a little nervous today. Now I am the president of everybody. President of everybody. President of the whole FIFA."
PRESIDENT OF EVERYBODY
Post by: WarrenBartonCentrePartin on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:37:59 PM
Breakaway organisation needed.
According to Karen Espelund that's a possibility. USA, UEFA and Invitees. The "Big" South American countries apparently voted against Blatter as well.
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:39:24 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/29/pep-guardiola-warned-uefa-topo-t-shirt
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Pep Guardiola has been warned by Uefa after the Bayern Munich coach wore a T-shirt calling for justice following the death of a journalist during the 2014 World Cup.
Jorge ‘Topo’ López, an Argentinian reporter covering the tournament with his wife, was killed when the São Paulo taxi he was travelling in hit another vehicle. Guardiola, who knew López well, wore a T-shirt that read #JusticiaParaTopo during his pre-match press conference ahead of the Bayern Munich v Porto Champions League fixture in April.
Uefa rules consider it an offence when an individual, club or association “uses sporting events for manifestations of a non-sporting nature”. Guardiola was therefore warned following a meeting of Uefa’s control, ethics and disciplinary body in Nyon on Friday. He has three days to appeal.
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:39:58 PM
If they got UEFA, Brazil and Argentina the rest would eventually followBreakaway organisation needed.
According to Karen Espelund that's a possibility. USA, UEFA and Invitees. The "Big" South American countries apparently voted against Blatter as well.
Post by: gdm on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:40:06 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:41:26 PM
let's all remind ourselves of the 'saints' that are UEFA while we're doing this
Nobody's saying UEFA isn't corrupt as well. But it's comparing a 747 filled with corrpution to a Cessna filled with corruption.
Post by: number9shirt on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:41:45 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:42:14 PM
Post by: Mick on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:43:10 PM
Post by: Kimbo on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:44:07 PM
David Ginola hits the nail on the head "it's like wathing a very bad reality show"
He's richer for it though after that embarrassing Paddy Power s****.
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:44:59 PM
Oh I agree, but I don't see much hope of Uefa suddenly growing loads of balls and actually leaving the world cup.
As a power play it makes perfect sense. The sponsors bring the money. The big nations bring the sponsors. Pull the big names out, and the sponsors pull out. This leads to the "lesser "nations that are dependent on said money to start sweating, which could hurry up the removal of Blatter.
Basically. If UEFA and CONMEBOL pull out, FIFA will be dead in the water. They will still have most of the countries in the world, but no sponsor would give their WC any money.
That said I also think it would probably never happen. But if there was a time for them to flex muscles, it's now.
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:46:33 PM
Post by: Nobody on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:47:37 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:48:14 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:50:07 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:51:57 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:51:58 PM
Just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if FIFA collapses and a new governing body is formed? What are they going to do to stop corruption? Prevent poorer countries from having a say in decisions? Its not as easy as to just start a new organisation and corruption will stop
A better voting system would sort out a lot of the corruption issues tbh. As well as full transparency, which they should have as they are a non-profit.
It's actually quite easy. Not saying all corruption would be gone. But compared to the current FIFA with s*** voting system and no transparency whatsoever... I mean, yeah...
Post by: Stifleaay on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:52:09 PM
Just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if FIFA collapses and a new governing body is formed? What are they going to do to stop corruption? Prevent poorer countries from having a say in decisions? Its not as easy as to just start a new organisation and corruption will stopThe best way to do it is to be a democratic organisation where if you fail as leader then you can be voted out and have a set amount of time you can be the leader for. Then you also open up your finances publically. All of which FIFA refuses to do.
Post by: Anon on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Post by: Jericho on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:54:49 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:55:45 PM
What would be your proposed voting system?Just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if FIFA collapses and a new governing body is formed? What are they going to do to stop corruption? Prevent poorer countries from having a say in decisions? Its not as easy as to just start a new organisation and corruption will stop
A better voting system would sort out a lot of the corruption issues tbh. As well as full transparency, which they should have as they are a non-profit.
It's actually quite easy. Not saying all corruption would be gone. But compared to the current FIFA with s*** voting system and no transparency whatsoever... I mean, yeah...
Post by: Kanji on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:57:31 PM
Blatter is embarrassing but you have to give him credit for what he can get away with, he's got football stitched up and in his pocket.
Naw no credit for that ass clown
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:57:36 PM
UEFA + CONMEBOL + USA & Mexico... and the rest can just f*** off. They are s*** anyway.Lets never have a surprise result in football ever again
Post by: Sima on Friday 29 May 2015, 06:59:38 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:09:20 PM
UEFA + CONMEBOL + USA & Mexico... and the rest can just f*** off. They are s*** anyway.
:yao: As if the USA would be allowed into this
Post by: Jericho on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:10:19 PM
There would be other teams to make surprises, for example Peru, Venezuela, Slovakia or Slovenia in semi final. That would be surprise.UEFA + CONMEBOL + USA & Mexico... and the rest can just f*** off. They are s*** anyway.Lets never have a surprise result in football ever again
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:17:37 PM
What would be your proposed voting system?Just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if FIFA collapses and a new governing body is formed? What are they going to do to stop corruption? Prevent poorer countries from having a say in decisions? Its not as easy as to just start a new organisation and corruption will stop
A better voting system would sort out a lot of the corruption issues tbh. As well as full transparency, which they should have as they are a non-profit.
It's actually quite easy. Not saying all corruption would be gone. But compared to the current FIFA with s*** voting system and no transparency whatsoever... I mean, yeah...
As discussed earlier, weighted voting tied to either FIFA ranking or the amount of clubs precided over by an FA.
Post by: chicken little on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:24:19 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
Post by: axel on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:26:58 PM
Blatter is embarrassing but you have to give him credit for what he can get away with, he's got football stitched up and in his pocket.Should we give credit to Mengele aswell just because he got away with it? :lol: I don't see the logic.
Post by: Flip on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:27:12 PM
UEFA + CONMEBOL + USA & Mexico... and the rest can just f*** off. They are s*** anyway.
CONMEBOL would just bring corruption with them to the new organization :lol:
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 07:27:27 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
Post by: Darth Crooks on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:08:11 PM
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:16:26 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
There's no reason to assume that. There's no reason to assume that funding for football development even needs to voted on. If you're building something from scratch there's no reason why you couldn't write something on division of funds into a founding charter or similar. It's just a massive assumption you're making. If you're trying to level the field in FIFA there's no reason why you couldn't make those sort of arrangements too.
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:55:07 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
There's no reason to assume that. There's no reason to assume that funding for football development even needs to voted on. If you're building something from scratch there's no reason why you couldn't write something on division of funds into a founding charter or similar. It's just a massive assumption you're making. If you're trying to level the field in FIFA there's no reason why you couldn't make those sort of arrangements too.
Of course you could implement revenue-sharing or other equalizing measures prior to giving them more votes, but in a hypothetical environment that is sufficiently pro-UEFA to institutionalize weighted voting for these countries, how would those unamendable revenue-sharing measures pass in the first place?
Also, from a purely normative perspective, why must Africa and Asia be reliant on the goodwill of the UEFA countries to represent their interests? We don't deserve an equal voice just because we're s*** at football? Africa is now providing the top European leagues with a significant portion of their star players and Asia is providing a significant portion of their fans. We're all part of this enterprise and have no interest in being relegated to junior partner status just because other parts of the world happened to start kicking balls earlier than we did.
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Friday 29 May 2015, 08:58:34 PM
Like a Blatter of hell he'll be gone when the lawman comes.
O0 :coolsmiley:
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:15:16 PM
UEFA + CONMEBOL + USA & Mexico... and the rest can just f*** off. They are s*** anyway.
:smugdog: are we part of the cool kidz now
Post by: afar on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:28:26 PM
Post by: NEEJ on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:44:27 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:44:43 PM
Sad that after all this s***, this man is re-elected tells you all you need to know about that organisation.the sad thing is how deep it goes, from fifa right down to almost certainly 90% of the national FA's even if got rid of the head of every single fa and all the major players in fifa the guys replacing them would be just as corrupt because they'd just be stepping up in rank and have been part of the whole crooked enterprise all along.
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:50:23 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
There's no reason to assume that. There's no reason to assume that funding for football development even needs to voted on. If you're building something from scratch there's no reason why you couldn't write something on division of funds into a founding charter or similar. It's just a massive assumption you're making. If you're trying to level the field in FIFA there's no reason why you couldn't make those sort of arrangements too.
Of course you could implement revenue-sharing or other equalizing measures prior to giving them more votes, but in a hypothetical environment that is sufficiently pro-UEFA to institutionalize weighted voting for these countries, how would those unamendable revenue-sharing measures pass in the first place?
Also, from a purely normative perspective, why must Africa and Asia be reliant on the goodwill of the UEFA countries to represent their interests? We don't deserve an equal voice just because we're s*** at football? Africa is now providing the top European leagues with a significant portion of their star players and Asia is providing a significant portion of their fans. We're all part of this enterprise and have no interest in being relegated to junior partner status just because other parts of the world happened to start kicking balls earlier than we did.
My main issue is that the f***ing Cayman Isles have the same say as South Korea. In no way should the Cayman Isles have as much a say in world football as South Korea, or other "big" FAs. Will the Cayman Isles ever get close to qualifying for a World Cup? If doing the FIFA ranking thing, one could simply take the top five from each association in the FIFA rankings and give their votes the same power, then take six-ten from the FIFA rankings and so on until you can no longer choose an equal amount from each association. After that you'd just go with the vote counting equally among the remaining nations. That way each association will still have an equal amount of say at the same time as making vote buying a bit harder.
Post by: oldtype on Friday 29 May 2015, 09:53:41 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
There's no reason to assume that. There's no reason to assume that funding for football development even needs to voted on. If you're building something from scratch there's no reason why you couldn't write something on division of funds into a founding charter or similar. It's just a massive assumption you're making. If you're trying to level the field in FIFA there's no reason why you couldn't make those sort of arrangements too.
Of course you could implement revenue-sharing or other equalizing measures prior to giving them more votes, but in a hypothetical environment that is sufficiently pro-UEFA to institutionalize weighted voting for these countries, how would those unamendable revenue-sharing measures pass in the first place?
Also, from a purely normative perspective, why must Africa and Asia be reliant on the goodwill of the UEFA countries to represent their interests? We don't deserve an equal voice just because we're s*** at football? Africa is now providing the top European leagues with a significant portion of their star players and Asia is providing a significant portion of their fans. We're all part of this enterprise and have no interest in being relegated to junior partner status just because other parts of the world happened to start kicking balls earlier than we did.
My main issue is that the f***ing Cayman Isles have the same say as South Korea. In no way should the Cayman Isles have as much a say in world football as South Korea, or other "big" FAs. Will the Cayman Isles ever get close to qualifying for a World Cup? If doing the FIFA ranking thing, one could simply take the top five from each association in the FIFA rankings and give their votes the same power, then take six-ten from the FIFA rankings and so on. That way each association will still have an equal amount of say.
I'd be okay with that for obvious reasons but that's just setting the cutoff point at a different level. Not all countries with low FIFA rankings are jokes like the Cayman Islands, and a lot of them would have legitimate grievances about how they're ever meant to improve if they're not given a voice due to votes weighted by FIFA ranking/# of registered clubs etc.
Post by: wyn davies on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:01:13 PM
Post by: BlueStar on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:01:43 PM
That speech. :lol: "Let's go FIFA let's go!"
am I at a dropkick murphys gig
Let's go FIFA!
Let's go FIFA!
Hail Hydr- uh
Let's go FIFA!
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:13:23 PM
Sorry should have looked back at your earlier posts. This would just result in whoever the big countries want in charge getting in charge which I don't agree with. Football is the most popular sport in almost every country in the world and IMO all countries should be treated equallyWhat would be your proposed voting system?Just playing devil's advocate here but what happens if FIFA collapses and a new governing body is formed? What are they going to do to stop corruption? Prevent poorer countries from having a say in decisions? Its not as easy as to just start a new organisation and corruption will stop
A better voting system would sort out a lot of the corruption issues tbh. As well as full transparency, which they should have as they are a non-profit.
It's actually quite easy. Not saying all corruption would be gone. But compared to the current FIFA with s*** voting system and no transparency whatsoever... I mean, yeah...
As discussed earlier, weighted voting tied to either FIFA ranking or the amount of clubs precided over by an FA.
Post by: chicago_shearer on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:28:02 PM
This is the problem with the UEFA nations, including the English FA and British government. Launching a real investigation and trying to get them extradited for an actual criminal trial would never even cross their minds. And they won't even consider withdrawing from the tournament either. It's all sternly worded letters from Culture & Sport Ministers and Parliamentary inquiries followed by Panorama documentaries and public moaning. If you don't like it, do something. Withdraw. The World Cup is s*** now anyway.
To be clear, I have no problem at all with rotating the Cup to Asia or Latin America or Africa, and no problem at all with equal representation for global regions. But this entire FIFA racket - from the corruption to this farce of a vote today - is just propped up by Blatter and fat, rich, blatant crooks from FAs in the developing world that have no interest at all in developing their local game.
Post by: QuakesMag on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:29:45 PM
Post by: LucaAltieri on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:36:38 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
weapons grade horseshit
I repeat, this is the terriblest idea ever. Europe would immediately cut all funds for football development projects in Africa/Asia. What's the point of making them better when that just means they'll get more votes.
There's no reason to assume that. There's no reason to assume that funding for football development even needs to voted on. If you're building something from scratch there's no reason why you couldn't write something on division of funds into a founding charter or similar. It's just a massive assumption you're making. If you're trying to level the field in FIFA there's no reason why you couldn't make those sort of arrangements too.
Of course you could implement revenue-sharing or other equalizing measures prior to giving them more votes, but in a hypothetical environment that is sufficiently pro-UEFA to institutionalize weighted voting for these countries, how would those unamendable revenue-sharing measures pass in the first place?
Also, from a purely normative perspective, why must Africa and Asia be reliant on the goodwill of the UEFA countries to represent their interests? We don't deserve an equal voice just because we're s*** at football? Africa is now providing the top European leagues with a significant portion of their star players and Asia is providing a significant portion of their fans. We're all part of this enterprise and have no interest in being relegated to junior partner status just because other parts of the world happened to start kicking balls earlier than we did.
If we're talking hypothetically, then I'd imagine the revenue sharing being a part of the voting weight change. Why would the small nations agree to the change otherwise? Also, as you point out, Europe gets a lot of players from other parts of the world already. Players from outside of Europe and South America are generally pretty cheap, too. It's in their interest to develop the global game already. I don't think it's automatic that a proportionately powerful UEFA would stomp on everyone else.
Post by: LoveItIfWeBeatU on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:42:46 PM
Post by: Mike on Friday 29 May 2015, 10:49:18 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:27:24 PM
Post by: Parky on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:48:19 PM
I'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
And why in the name of f*** has Asia got nearly 50 votes (just a few less then Europe)?
Post by: triggs on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:53:48 PM
Because thats the amount of countries thereI'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
And why in the name of f*** has Asia got nearly 50 votes (just a few less then Europe)?
Post by: Parky on Friday 29 May 2015, 11:57:59 PM
Post by: triggs on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:12:26 AM
He's just spread out the votes to areas where he can gain most control (bribe). Fifa is hated in Europe.Yes he's bribed 133 countries. Europe is the main power in football, at least in terms of money and the only candidate from Europe is the most hated guy in European football. UEFA can't complain when they didn't put any kind of pressure on Blatter until a few days ago
Post by: oldtype on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:13:25 AM
Because thats the amount of countries thereI'd have the power of your vote tied to your FIFA ranking. It's absolutely ludicrous that Africa have more voting power than Europe.
And why in the name of f*** has Asia got nearly 50 votes (just a few less then Europe)?
In proportion to either population or popularity of the game, Asia is probably slightly under represented.
Post by: cubaricho on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:13:54 AM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:16:32 AM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
:fwap:
Though I guess I'm a little disappointed the DoJ's putting its all-stars on this case and not, say, on the civil rights crisis in our country at the moment. :lol:
Post by: oldtype on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:17:48 AM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
:fwap:
Though I guess I'm a little disappointed the DoJ's putting its all-stars on this case and not, say, on the civil rights crisis in our country at the moment. :lol:
:lol: I'm sorry man
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 30 May 2015, 12:18:43 AM
Post by: Tachikoma on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:40:55 AM
Post by: mickthemagpie on Saturday 30 May 2015, 08:30:58 AM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
Thought i read on here you were a pilot in the Korean airforce! What a f***ing letdown.
Post by: ponsaelius on Saturday 30 May 2015, 08:33:49 AM
Post by: Miercoles on Saturday 30 May 2015, 09:02:27 AM
Don't worry. We've got this. :thup:
:icon_salut:
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Post by: Sima on Saturday 30 May 2015, 09:04:56 AM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
Thought i read on here you were a pilot in the Korean airforce! What a f***ing letdown.
Obviously stole the uniform for that TV show. f***ing imposter.
Post by: Peppe on Saturday 30 May 2015, 09:15:07 AM
Sure the sponsors love seeing stuff like this :lol:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/people-are-criticising-fifa-world-cup-sponsors-with-corrupt-corporate-logos-10280042.html
Some of them responded to it here:
http://consumerist.com/2015/05/20/visa-coca-cola-respond-to-human-rights-concerns-about-qatar-world-cup-not-pulling-out-as-sponsors/
Quote
"Coca Cola says it welcomes “constructive dialogue on human rights issues, and we will continue to work with many individuals, human rights organizations, sports groups, government officials and others to develop solutions and foster greater respect for human rights in sports and elsewhere.”
It's f***ing human rights, it's a fundamental right and shouldn't even need to be discussed ffs :lol:
Also loved that Blatter "condemned the working conditions" when it was him and his goons who chose f***ing Qatar to host the World Cup in the first place.
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 30 May 2015, 09:51:40 AM
Post by: Kaizero on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:07:38 PM
Re: UEFA "I can forgive, but I never forget."
Blatter is such an odious c***, man. UEFA better f***ing pull out of that viper's nest of corruption.
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:13:09 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:20:34 PM
Post by: oldtype on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:29:37 PM
I'm working at a law firm in DC at the moment and I was talking to one of our experienced litigation partners about this last night. He mentioned that the prosecution team DOJ had assembled for this case was basically all of their superstar lawyers, and just seeing that list of names made him 100% confident that FIFA was f***ed. These guys are taking this very seriously.
:megusta:
Thought i read on here you were a pilot in the Korean airforce! What a f***ing letdown.
Obviously stole the uniform for that TV show. f***ing imposter.
I was one but this job pays better :lol:
Not a pilot though.
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:34:55 PM
Sure the sponsors love seeing stuff like this :lol:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/people-are-criticising-fifa-world-cup-sponsors-with-corrupt-corporate-logos-10280042.html
Some of them responded to it here:
http://consumerist.com/2015/05/20/visa-coca-cola-respond-to-human-rights-concerns-about-qatar-world-cup-not-pulling-out-as-sponsors/Quote"Coca Cola says it welcomes “constructive dialogue on human rights issues, and we will continue to work with many individuals, human rights organizations, sports groups, government officials and others to develop solutions and foster greater respect for human rights in sports and elsewhere.”
It's f***ing human rights, it's a fundamental right and shouldn't even need to be discussed ffs :lol:
Also loved that Blatter "condemned the working conditions" when it was him and his goons who chose f***ing Qatar to host the World Cup in the first place.
In defense of Blatter... :lol: He didn't vote for Qatar however Platini of UEFA did.
Post by: Village Idiot on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:41:46 PM
Post by: Peppe on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:55:18 PM
Sure the sponsors love seeing stuff like this :lol:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/people-are-criticising-fifa-world-cup-sponsors-with-corrupt-corporate-logos-10280042.html
Some of them responded to it here:
http://consumerist.com/2015/05/20/visa-coca-cola-respond-to-human-rights-concerns-about-qatar-world-cup-not-pulling-out-as-sponsors/Quote"Coca Cola says it welcomes “constructive dialogue on human rights issues, and we will continue to work with many individuals, human rights organizations, sports groups, government officials and others to develop solutions and foster greater respect for human rights in sports and elsewhere.”
It's f***ing human rights, it's a fundamental right and shouldn't even need to be discussed ffs :lol:
Also loved that Blatter "condemned the working conditions" when it was him and his goons who chose f***ing Qatar to host the World Cup in the first place.
In defense of Blatter... :lol: He didn't vote for Qatar however Platini of UEFA did.
Ah, okay. Well he's still a c*** :lol:
Who did he vote for, just out of interest? :)
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 30 May 2015, 02:58:10 PM
Sure the sponsors love seeing stuff like this :lol:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/people-are-criticising-fifa-world-cup-sponsors-with-corrupt-corporate-logos-10280042.html
Some of them responded to it here:
http://consumerist.com/2015/05/20/visa-coca-cola-respond-to-human-rights-concerns-about-qatar-world-cup-not-pulling-out-as-sponsors/Quote"Coca Cola says it welcomes “constructive dialogue on human rights issues, and we will continue to work with many individuals, human rights organizations, sports groups, government officials and others to develop solutions and foster greater respect for human rights in sports and elsewhere.”
It's f***ing human rights, it's a fundamental right and shouldn't even need to be discussed ffs :lol:
Also loved that Blatter "condemned the working conditions" when it was him and his goons who chose f***ing Qatar to host the World Cup in the first place.
In defense of Blatter... :lol: He didn't vote for Qatar however Platini of UEFA did.
Ah, okay. Well he's still a c*** :lol:
Who did he vote for, just out of interest? :)
I agree :lol: USA I believe ironically!
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:00:13 PM
Post by: Kimbo on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:05:06 PM
Uefa should form a new version of FIFA in the same way it happens in boxing. Get all the European countries as founding teams and try and get the others involved one at a time. It would only damage FIFA and UEFA have a moral obligation to pull out now considering people are f***ing dying.
But the president of UEFA voted for Qatar and stands by that decision, these reptilian f***s don't care about some peasant workers dying in the desert.
Post by: Flip on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Uefa should form a new version of FIFA in the same way it happens in boxing. Get all the European countries as founding teams and try and get the others involved one at a time. It would only damage FIFA and UEFA have a moral obligation to pull out now considering people are f***ing dying.
But the president of UEFA voted for Qatar and stands by that decision, these reptilian f***s don't care about some peasant workers dying in the desert.
:thup: Let's not forget Russia is part of Uefa as well. It's not like UEFA aren't to blame. Platini only wanted the Prince of Jordan there because he's his friend and he'd get his idea through. None of these guys even care about the sport, they're making a big fuzz about it now to increase their powers. Figo should've stayed in the election and he'd probably have been the best option for transparency in the organization, but what UEFA federations were willing to back him? Can't have been many. There's no way UEFA is a great organization either. If I'm not mistaken VI said Spains FA president might be under investigation as well.
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:17:34 PM
Post by: triggs on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Uefa should form a new version of FIFA in the same way it happens in boxing. Get all the European countries as founding teams and try and get the others involved one at a time. It would only damage FIFA and UEFA have a moral obligation to pull out now considering people are f***ing dying.Michel Platini would be so much better than Blatter as president of the governing body :lol:
Post by: Kaizero on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:24:28 PM
Uefa should form a new version of FIFA in the same way it happens in boxing. Get all the European countries as founding teams and try and get the others involved one at a time. It would only damage FIFA and UEFA have a moral obligation to pull out now considering people are f***ing dying.Michel Platini would be so much better than Blatter as president of the governing body :lol:
A new president, any president, no matter how corrupt pre-presidency, would pretty much be forced to give more transparancy. It's basically "anyone but Blatter", then football might get a teeny tiny bit better. Not in any way healed, but better.
Post by: Village Idiot on Saturday 30 May 2015, 03:38:18 PM
Uefa should form a new version of FIFA in the same way it happens in boxing. Get all the European countries as founding teams and try and get the others involved one at a time. It would only damage FIFA and UEFA have a moral obligation to pull out now considering people are f***ing dying.
But the president of UEFA voted for Qatar and stands by that decision, these reptilian f***s don't care about some peasant workers dying in the desert.
:thup: Let's not forget Russia is part of Uefa as well. It's not like UEFA aren't to blame. Platini only wanted the Prince of Jordan there because he's his friend and he'd get his idea through. None of these guys even care about the sport, they're making a big fuzz about it now to increase their powers. Figo should've stayed in the election and he'd probably have been the best option for transparency in the organization, but what UEFA federations were willing to back him? Can't have been many. There's no way UEFA is a great organization either. If I'm not mistaken VI said Spains FA president might be under investigation as well.
UEFA is a damnable organization, and they are certainly fond of money. I'm lucky to be a fan of a club that has come out on top, but look at the state of European football versus 20 years ago and tell me it's better.
Post by: Mick on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:21:26 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:22:06 PM
It looks like France voted for Blatter. :lol:
FFS.
UEFA will be furious if that's the case.
Post by: LFEE on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:26:42 PM
It looks like France voted for Blatter. :lol:
FFS.
UEFA will be furious if that's the case.
Didn't France and Spain both vote for Blatter?
Post by: Mick on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:26:53 PM
It looks like France voted for Blatter. :lol:
FFS.
UEFA will be furious if that's the case.
"For me, between him and Prince Ali, he was our preferred choice. Since we were awarded the 2019 women's World Cup, we have had excellent collaboration with the FIFA administration."
Post by: Flip on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:34:12 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Saturday 30 May 2015, 04:46:24 PM
There was even talk a few years ago that he was being groomed to succeed Blatter.
Post by: jdckelly on Saturday 30 May 2015, 05:32:20 PM
People are f***ing dying in the hundreds building f***ing football stadiums in the middle of the desert. It boggles the mind how this can be brushed aside so easily with fluff talk.don't worry according to Richard Keys there have been no deaths its all a massive conspiracy
Post by: HTT on Saturday 30 May 2015, 10:31:14 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 1 June 2015, 12:06:57 AM
:lol: stupid dipshit
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 1 June 2015, 11:11:48 AM
Post by: biggs on Monday 1 June 2015, 11:25:26 AM
Warner is definitely going down, he's too thick to keep his mouth shut, unlike Blatter. From what he's said so far it seems his defence will be "It's OK to take and give bribes as long as the money goes to a good cause."Maybe he will take Blatter down with him or one of the others arrested will as they will feel a little bit bitter that the ringleader gets off scot free
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 1 June 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Monday 1 June 2015, 08:28:54 PM
Post by: afar on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 04:00:32 PM
This is why the status quo will always remain and FIFA will just continue to do what they please.
Post by: Village Idiot on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 04:25:48 PM
With 6 pm #FIFA press conf an hour away, let's recap a few things that FIFA have said before they'll presumably say some more:
1 FIFA did, in fact, agree to essentially advance South Africa $10M to pay to Concacaf....
2. The payment was ostensibly for a project that, as far as I can find, has no internet presence (reports, updates, etc) at all.
3. The person that FIFA says signed off on that wire transfer was not actually employed by FIFA, but rather by a confederation.
4. That person, coincidentally, died last year.
5. FIFA also says that its secretary general, along with every other major official, had no idea about the transfer of $10M of its money.
6. FIFA goes on to say that the secretary general doesn't even have power to authorize such a transaction, despite ...
7. ... the FIFA statutes from 2008 listing, under responsibilities of gen sec, oversight of all FIFA accounts.
Post by: Joe_F on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 04:40:10 PM
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Post by: simonlemagnifique on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:44:17 PM
Quote from: [tweet
605774382200274944[/tweet]]Utterly bizarre. First they told us Blatter, De Gregorio and Scala would speak at 6.00, now just De Gregorio at 6.45
Post by: GeordieT on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:45:51 PM
EDIT: Has resigned. :celb1:
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:47:28 PM
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:47:46 PM
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:48:21 PM
Huh?
BLATTER GONE!
Post by: LFEE on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:48:30 PM
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:48:54 PM
Post by: simonlemagnifique on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:48:54 PM
Holy s***...
It's happening!
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:49:05 PM
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Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:52:56 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:52:57 PM
Now would be a good time for a football club to bury some bad news...
Post by: BlufPurdi on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:53:17 PM
Post by: mouldy_uk on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:54:03 PM
Craig Hope @CraigHope_DM 1m1 minute ago
Now would be a good time for a football club to bury some bad news...
Like announcing a s*** new manager
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:54:21 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:54:27 PM
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:55:43 PM
Craig Hope @CraigHope_DM 1m1 minute ago
Now would be a good time for a football club to bury some bad news...
Was just going to post this :lol:
Post by: Mick on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:55:54 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:55:55 PM
the f***?!!!! why?!!!
Seems connected to the Valcke document tbh. Seems like strange timing due to his will to stay on before the document was published.
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:56:41 PM
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:57:07 PM
the FBI must have something big to force this
Yup, the only reason for this sudden change of heart has to be that he's f***ed and is desperately trying to do anything he can to get the heat off himself.
Post by: Ketsbaia on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:57:33 PM
:fwap:
Post by: STM on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:57:37 PM
Post by: Toon Hoser on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:58:18 PM
Post by: joeyt on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:58:44 PM
Post by: High Five o/ on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:58:59 PM
Maybe a new start for FIFA?
I have my doubts.
Post by: nufcjb on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:59:39 PM
No f*** off you corrupt old senile. And take Carver with ya!
Post by: chicago_shearer on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 05:59:58 PM
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Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:03:45 PM
Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: Think it had to be Budweiser that got him out, he's off the hook
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:03:46 PM
Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol:
and every item on McDonald's $1 menu
Knowing Oliver, he's going to f***ing do it on camera too.
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:04:07 PM
Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
Oliver is regretting everything right now, and rightly so. Bud Light Lime... a fate worse than death.
Post by: taxfree on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:04:39 PM
Post by: Bizza on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:05:02 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:05:29 PM
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:05:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
Mine was better :huff:
Post by: Collage on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:05:53 PM
Post by: Toon Hoser on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:06:20 PM
Hah... too s*** scared to set foot in Canada.
The FBI would have nailed him quicker than Mossad on Eichmann.
Post by: STM on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:09:08 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:11:10 PM
Blatter to Swiss TV on Friday: "Why would I step down? That would mean I recognise that I did wrong."
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:14:31 PM
Ben Rumsby @ben_rumsby 1m1 minute ago
Blatter to Swiss TV on Friday: "Why would I step down? That would mean I recognise that I did wrong."
The Feds are going to release the transcript of Chuck Blazers admission in the next 24 hours :frantic:
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:16:04 PM
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:16:41 PM
You just won an election you prick, the next one wasn't for another five years :lol:
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:17:39 PM
Feels a bit weird cheering on the FBI but.. well done.
F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I
Post by: Si on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:18:53 PM
:lol:Feels a bit weird cheering on the FBI but.. well done.
F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:19:02 PM
Feels a bit weird cheering on the FBI but.. well done.
F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I, F B I
If they actually take down Blatter, I think I might be willing to call this and the War on Terror a wash.
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:22:07 PM
:memeyeah:
Post by: taxfree on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:22:58 PM
English FA chairman Greg Dyke "If I was the organisers of the Qatar World Cup I wouldn't sleep well tonight"
:memeyeah:
Love it.
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:24:16 PM
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Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:26:05 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:27:08 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:27:09 PM
Good news is Blatter is gone. Bad news is I've heard he's after the Newcastle job!!!
:lol:
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:27:36 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:27:42 PM
If he stood down before the election the Jordanian prince would have won by default and have a mandate to root out the corruption.
By winning the election And then resigning he allows others with an interest in protecting old FIFA to stand for election. Next one might be a Blatter puppet.
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
:lol:
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
On a more serious note it'll be very interesting to see what happens from here. You'd assume Russia is too far gone to have anything changed unfortunately but I think 2022 will get re-run.
Post by: U2 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:29:08 PM
Alan Shearer @alanshearer 1m1 minute ago
Good news is Blatter is gone. Bad news is I've heard he's after the Newcastle job!!!
:lol:
Utter Dad humor :lol:
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:29:36 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:30:31 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:30:41 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
On a more serious note it'll be very interesting to see what happens from here. You'd assume Russia is too far gone to have anything changed unfortunately but I think 2022 will get re-run.
Have a European World Cup 2018
Post by: BillClinton on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:31:11 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
On a more serious note it'll be very interesting to see what happens from here. You'd assume Russia is too far gone to have anything changed unfortunately but I think 2022 will get re-run.
Not a ton of "realistic" options if they don't want a European country twice in a row.
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:31:33 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
I saw the adverts myself in Florida last month!
Post by: zicomartin on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:31:41 PM
Hah... too s*** scared to set foot in Canada.
The FBI would have nailed him quicker than Mossad on Eichmann.
Where is that squires panel with Blatter in the travel agents? :)
Womens world cup saves football.
Who wudda thunk?
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:32:04 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
I saw the adverts myself in Florida last month!
Probably just some random Japanese group being dafties.
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:33:04 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
I saw the adverts myself in Florida last month!
Probably just some random Japanese group being dafties.
It had their Prime Minister in it and government logos everywhere!
Post by: mouldy_uk on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:33:18 PM
Alan Shearer @alanshearer 1m1 minute ago
Good news is Blatter is gone. Bad news is I've heard he's after the Newcastle job!!!
:lol:
Utter Dad humor :lol:
Great Bantz Alan!
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:33:39 PM
Post by: ads on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:34:28 PM
No f***ing s*** too. My Dad text me saying he's put a tenner on Blatter to be our next manager. Cringe as f***.Alan Shearer @alanshearer 1m1 minute ago
Good news is Blatter is gone. Bad news is I've heard he's after the Newcastle job!!!
:lol:
Utter Dad humor :lol:
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:34:51 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
It's blatantly not true :lol:
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:35:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WXhO_-e3bM
:lol: :lol:
Post by: sempuki on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:35:32 PM
Bollocks.Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:36:42 PM
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
It's blatantly not true :lol:
I saw the advert!
Post by: JUICE690 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:41:13 PM
To be honest this may still be all part of the master plan.A Bluppet?
If he stood down before the election the Jordanian prince would have won by default and have a mandate to root out the corruption.
By winning the election And then resigning he allows others with an interest in protecting old FIFA to stand for election. Next one might be a Blatter puppet.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:41:15 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
:lol:
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:42:09 PM
Post by: zicomartin on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:43:17 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
...I'm pretty sure that's not true
It's blatantly not true :lol:
I saw the advert!
Which channel? American Heroes Channel (AHC) ?
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:44:54 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Pshh! f*** that.
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:45:07 PM
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:46:48 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
:lol: What in the absolute f*** are you talking about.
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:47:35 PM
Post by: Dokko on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:48:00 PM
http://youtu.be/ez-znJzqLsc
Blatt out of hell?
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:48:06 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:48:41 PM
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/c669i8dmy0e-xrggjwkyaw.png)
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:49:42 PM
(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/c669i8dmy0e-xrggjwkyaw.png)
:lol: I gotta see these commercials, tbh.
It's dead OTT to nuke someone and still hate them.
Post by: Elliottman on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:51:11 PM
Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
:lol: What in the absolute f*** are you talking about.
he saw the advert man!
Post by: firetotheworks on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:52:04 PM
(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/c669i8dmy0e-xrggjwkyaw.png)
:lol: I gotta see these commercials, tbh.
It's dead OTT to nuke someone and still hate them.
As well as massively westernising their country and pretty much owning Okinawa until the end of time.
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:52:13 PM
(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/c669i8dmy0e-xrggjwkyaw.png)
:lol: I gotta see these commercials, tbh.
It's dead OTT to nuke someone and still hate them.
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7eMc/the-government-of-japan-robots
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7erH/the-government-of-japan-metros
Closest I could find :lol:
Post by: Darth Crooks on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:52:25 PM
http://youtu.be/ez-znJzqLsc
Blatt out of hell?
http://youtu.be/z4thL5HgnB4
RIIIIIGHT!
Post by: James on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:53:53 PM
Please trade with us.
Same week Japan came over to see Obama to mark VJ dAy
Post by: oldtype on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:54:49 PM
It was quite trade focused. This Japanese man designed the new subway vehicles, this Japanese man is working on a cure for cancer at Harvard etc.
Please trade with us.
Same week Japan came over to see Obama to mark VJ dAy
The UK runs tourism adverts in Korea sometimes. Is that because we hate you?
Post by: B-more Mag on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:54:51 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:55:29 PM
Post by: Disco on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:55:57 PM
It was quite trade focused. This Japanese man designed the new subway vehicles, this Japanese man is working on a cure for cancer at Harvard etc.
Please trade with us.
Same week Japan came over to see Obama to mark VJ dAy
Please stop posting.
Post by: Mike on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:57:40 PM
It was quite trade focused. This Japanese man designed the new subway vehicles, this Japanese man is working on a cure for cancer at Harvard etc.
Please trade with us.
Same week Japan came over to see Obama to mark VJ dAy
:lol: That's just normal s***, though. I thought there were like "No more nukes onegai shimasu!" ads on repeat, the way you built it up.
Post by: DebuchyAndTheBeast on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 06:57:58 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Any, glad Blatter has been blatted. Hopefully Qatar WC gets binned off.
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:07:04 PM
Post by: henke on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:11:05 PM
Post by: midds on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:13:46 PM
It was quite trade focused. This Japanese man designed the new subway vehicles, this Japanese man is working on a cure for cancer at Harvard etc.
Please trade with us.
Same week Japan came over to see Obama to mark VJ dAy
Please stop posting.
:lol:
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
Post by: gazza ladra on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:16:35 PM
This. The generation of Japanese-hating Americans are gone. My grandmother was like. Fought the war right into the 1990s.Bollocks.Give it to Australia/NZ so the US doesn't look completely self-serving here :lol:
Clearly the World Cup should stay with AFC, perhaps a staunch US ally from the region with recent experience in hosting this kind of tournament could step in...
Aye, Japan all the way. Sick of s**** no mark countries getting the nod :thup:
Walked right into that one :lol:
To be honest the Americans hate the Japanese. Seventy years after the war and the Japanese still buy adverts on TV channels in the states to try and show they are no longer the enemy.
We still have plenty of Russia-hating Americans, Iran-hating American, Muslim-hating Americans... etc.
Post by: Kaizero on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:17:04 PM
I've been in bed all day so I'm just catching up on this. Is it looking like Qatar and possibly Russia could have hosting the World Cup taken from them?
Blatter will sit out this year it seems, with an election being held in early 2016. Would probably mean too little time left to take it from Russia, but Qatar should have it f***ing taken from them.
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:18:13 PM
I've been in bed all day so I'm just catching up on this. Is it looking like Qatar and possibly Russia could have hosting the World Cup taken from them?Might be another vote for Qatar. World cup very unlikely to be taken off Russia IMO. Would like 2018 to go to England though, might get to see a few games
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:19:45 PM
I'd never actually heard of Bud Light Lime before, is it as bad as it sounds? :lol:Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
Post by: henke on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Post by: Peppe on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:31:12 PM
BLATTER GONE!
Huh?
BLATTER GONE!
:lol:
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:32:24 PM
I'd never actually heard of Bud Light Lime before, is it as bad as it sounds? :lol:Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
It's endlessly better than Bud Light Lime-A-Rita.
Post by: CFlan on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:34:41 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:43:52 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:43:59 PM
Post by: toon25 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:45:39 PM
f***ing corrupt old c***.
Post by: Peppe on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:49:18 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:57:32 PM
I'd never actually heard of Bud Light Lime before, is it as bad as it sounds? :lol:Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
:lol: it's never beer, but it's a cool refreshing beverage on a hot day. A poor man's Corona with lime. And I just so happen to be a poor man.
Post by: LucaAltieri on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:58:40 PM
I'd never actually heard of Bud Light Lime before, is it as bad as it sounds? :lol:Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
:lol: it's never beer, but it's a cool refreshing beverage on a hot day. A poor man's Corona with lime.
I thought Corona with lime was the poor man's Corona with lime?
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 07:59:54 PM
I'd never actually heard of Bud Light Lime before, is it as bad as it sounds? :lol:Does this mean John Oliver has to drink a Bud Light Lime?
:lol: :lol:
:lol: it's never beer, but it's a cool refreshing beverage on a hot day. A homeless man's Corona with lime.
I thought Corona with lime was the poor man's Corona with lime?
Fixed
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:00:27 PM
Post by: 54 on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:01:44 PM
Post by: taxfree on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:01:59 PM
Post by: Toon Hoser on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:25:05 PM
(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/c669i8dmy0e-xrggjwkyaw.png)
:occasion14:
Post by: Northerngimp on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:26:34 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:35:51 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:38:45 PM
I'm surprised Isreal isn't higher.
nsis
Post by: Kimbo on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:45:38 PM
Post by: Stifleaay on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 08:48:58 PM
The trouble is though Blatter used to be a high level Swiss accountant, fraud and Funchal crimes are his day to day stuff, he knows how not to leave a paper trial. If the FBI have something on him then it must be good.
Post by: Parky on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 10:06:08 PM
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 10:12:12 PM
It's all falling into place
Post by: BlueStar on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 10:14:56 PM
Something must have forced his hand.
Been suggested he's now subject to investigation. I imagine to continue as president he'd have to travel to various countries who might nick and/or extradite him. Wouldn't be surprised if he retired somewhere not particularly known for having extradition treaties.
Post by: newsted on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 11:06:25 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Tuesday 2 June 2015, 11:08:26 PM
The f***er will have a Plan B.probably will end up working for russia organizing the world cup there and one of the few places that won't just hand him over to the yanks if they come calling.
Post by: Pandamninator on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 03:48:07 AM
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 07:07:46 AM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 07:19:11 AM
Zico is thinking of candidating. Too bad for him that he is one of the few Brazilians that hasn't really been caught being corrupt or have that personality tbh. The guy could be excellent, but there's no way Brazil should be allowed close to that position after Havelange, Teixeira and Marin. NO WAY. But I would love an ex-player like Figo that seems like an intelligent person and who would put football above politics.
:anguish:
Rather zombie Havelange with Blatter, Al Capone and Lucifer as his aidés than Figo. May he rot in hell for all eternity.
Post by: Northerngimp on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 10:32:53 AM
Zico is thinking of candidating. Too bad for him that he is one of the few Brazilians that hasn't really been caught being corrupt or have that personality tbh. The guy could be excellent, but there's no way Brazil should be allowed close to that position after Havelange, Teixeira and Marin. NO WAY. But I would love an ex-player like Figo that seems like an intelligent person and who would put football above politics.
:anguish:
Rather zombie Havelange with Blatter, Al Capone and Lucifer as his aidés than Figo. May he rot in hell for all eternity.
Didn't you lot throw a pigs head at him?
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 10:37:11 AM
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 12:14:08 PM
SA WC press conference live they just said they had no issues about sending Jack Warner the 10m to distribute. :lol:
Someone took a beifcase to France (general laughter in the press corp) but they can't remember who it was.... :cheesy:
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:00:49 PM
FBI now investigating Qatar and Russia World Cup bids. Seismic.
Post by: U2 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:02:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/F0YbuE9.png)
Blatter will make that list one day :smitten:
Post by: Yorkie on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:03:56 PM
Post by: Greg on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:08:49 PM
I'm confused by that but I'm obviously just not smart. How can they be 'wanted' if they've already been arrested?
They have charged 14 of them, only managed to arrest 7.
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Valcke: I'm beyond reproach and I certainly don't feel guilty. So I don't even have to justify that i'm innocent. #SSNHQ
Post by: midds on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:15:26 PM
Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 12m12 minutes ago
Valcke: I'm fairly sure I've covered my tracks and I certainly don't feel guilty. So you'll just have to prove that i'm guilty. #SSNHQ
:pow:
Post by: LFEE on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Fifa scandal: Sepp Blatter given ovation by staff
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32995947
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 06:57:18 PM
Post by: Twinport53 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 07:17:39 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/03/how-a-curmudgeonly-old-reporter-exposed-the-fifa-scandal-that-toppled-sepp-blatter/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/03/how-a-curmudgeonly-old-reporter-exposed-the-fifa-scandal-that-toppled-sepp-blatter/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3)
Cracking read O0
Post by: jdckelly on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 08:33:26 PM
Post by: Dave on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 08:55:31 PM
Quote
Former Fifa official Chuck Blazer admits accepting bribes for France and South Africa World Cups in New York court
Post by: Hog on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 08:56:46 PM
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/03/uk-soccer-fifa-qatar-idUKKBN0OJ2EQ20150603
Post by: TheHoob on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:09:49 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Post by: biggs on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:17:50 PM
"Attiyah's comments echoed a mood of exasperation and defiance in Doha, where a feeling that Qatar was being made a scapegoat has only deepened with Blatter's resignation.
"They're being racist in every sense of the word," Majid Khulaifi, editor of Estad al-Doha newspaper, said on his Twitter account.
"The West should know that if it belittles Qatar and its right to organise (the cup), it's belittling every single Arab state."
pathetic using that as an excuse :idiot2:
Post by: SEMTEX on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:20:08 PM
t***s.
Post by: M4 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:20:50 PM
Just belittling their own position.
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:24:05 PM
Post by: Mick on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:26:52 PM
Post by: QuakesMag on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Not the lack of facilities and infrastructure...
Not the slave labor work force...
No, it's because they are Arab.
Qatar is such a disgusting country and has been bankrolling many of the jihadists in Libya, so f*** all of them.
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:34:58 PM
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:35:22 PM
Not moving the World Cup to the winter...
Not the lack of facilities and infrastructure...
Not the slave labor work force...
No, it's because they are Arab.
Qatar is such a disgusting country and has been bankrolling many of the jihadists in Libya, so f*** all of them.
It's totally surreal that they might do a world cup. Disgrace.
Post by: M4 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:35:27 PM
Plus that the process in choosing was also corrupt as f*** anyway.
Post by: Parky on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:35:38 PM
I haven't been following this whole ordeal in great detail, but at this stage what's the chance the the two World Cups do get moved?
High.
Post by: M4 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:37:23 PM
Obviously from a common sense point of view the 2022 tournament should be moved... but since when is that ever a criteria in modern football.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 09:44:17 PM
Post by: Matt on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 10:11:56 PM
Post by: Pandamninator on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 10:50:54 PM
There isn't really a precedent for this though, is there?
Obviously from a common sense point of view the 2022 tournament should be moved... but since when is that ever a criteria in modern football.
There is a precedent - Columbia was removed as host and replaced by Mexico for the 1986 (?) one because they couldn't pay for it.
Personally I think Russia won't be moved - too close to the event and they've done a better job of covering their tracks.
Only a matter of time for Qatar though, still 7 years away, and since it was awarded to them so early, the replacement host would get the same amount of time you'd normally have to prepare anyway.
Post by: Stifleaay on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:00:29 PM
Post by: M4 on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:13:28 PM
There isn't really a precedent for this though, is there?
Obviously from a common sense point of view the 2022 tournament should be moved... but since when is that ever a criteria in modern football.
There is a precedent - Columbia was removed as host and replaced by Mexico for the 1986 (?) one because they couldn't pay for it.
Personally I think Russia won't be moved - too close to the event and they've done a better job of covering their tracks.
There's precedent in changing the host, of course. But I meant in terms of the whole organisation/federation behind the backing being the issue.
Russia being three years away, plus by the time all this comes out and goes through the whole process of appeals and all that s*** mean it'll likely be too late just from a logistics point of view. Qatar is the big one.
Post by: biggs on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:26:16 PM
If an investigation finds that Russia got the World Cup through bribery then it will be almost impossible to let them host it. In that case I can see a EUropean country who already have the infrastructure coming in and hosting it as an emergency. England would then be in pole position to land it with us already being top of the just in case list and us being probably the best bid in the process.(http://i.imgur.com/mv9KriXm.png)
There will plenty more s*** hitting the fan in the coming months and it will get ugly ,Blatter will get shat on by the arrested ones and just the tip of the iceberg .To think two of the main rivals for Blatters job are both Arabs who have zero football tradition and Michel"Ihatetheenglish"Platini who voted for Quatar possibly running is a sad in indiciment of Fifa as a whole :embarrassed:
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 3 June 2015, 11:50:10 PM
Post by: Pandamninator on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:23:34 AM
Platini is as bent as the rest of them. Would love him to get outed during the WC investigations.
He was heavily involved in France's 1998 bid wasn't he?
The same bid Blazer has said he apparently accepted bribes for.
Uh Oh.
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:27:13 AM
Platini is as bent as the rest of them. Would love him to get outed during the WC investigations.
He was heavily involved in France's 1998 bid wasn't he?
The same bid Blazer has said he apparently accepted bribes for.
Uh Oh.
No idea but he is very much in bed with Qatar.
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 4 June 2015, 01:34:11 AM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 02:58:42 AM
I wish we get a president in that's not been heavily involved in any confederation or in FIFA. Not gonna happen, but it would be great to just have someone come in and reboot the system.
Shyamalan Twist
(http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2008/07/medium_WaveBush_Meye.JPG)
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:01:22 AM
I wish we get a president in that's not been heavily involved in any confederation or in FIFA. Not gonna happen, but it would be great to just have someone come in and reboot the system.
Shyamalan Twist
(http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2008/07/medium_WaveBush_Meye.JPG)
The World Cup would likely be awarded to Haliburton then.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:13:05 AM
I wish we get a president in that's not been heavily involved in any confederation or in FIFA. Not gonna happen, but it would be great to just have someone come in and reboot the system.
Shyamalan Twist
(http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2008/07/medium_WaveBush_Meye.JPG)
The World Cup would likely be awarded to Haliburton then.
Hard to say if that'd be better or worse than Qatar.
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:15:45 AM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:17:45 AM
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:31:01 AM
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:32:55 AM
:fwap: This is glorious.
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:41:38 AM
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:42:08 AM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 03:42:27 AM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:07:43 AM
:lol: :lol: just gone erect
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:10:07 AM
Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:11:31 AM
I think what I find most incredible is how brazen FIFA has been. Everyone's known about this for years, and they've acted totally nonchalant about it all, clearly not giving a f***. It'll be grand to watch the smug self-righteousness wash off their faces as they're bummed by the cold, steely cock of the DoJ.
:lol: Need the Financial institutions to f*** with the Super Bowl or something.
Heard Lehman Bros helped Brady deflate those balls, tbh.
Post by: sempuki on Thursday 4 June 2015, 06:04:12 AM
Post by: Anon on Thursday 4 June 2015, 06:09:54 AM
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 4 June 2015, 06:48:58 AM
Hope Russia and Qatar get found out. Look guilty as hell.
It looks like you had to be guilty to succeed. What a mess.
Post by: Skeletor on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:38:16 AM
Post by: Varadi on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:44:25 AM
You just knew Warner would be the first one to monumentally crack.
:lol: He's singing like a canary
http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/jun/04/jack-warner-fifa-corruption-i-have-kept-quiet-i-will-do-so-no-more-live
Post by: biggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:07:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Qe9WsAzm.jpg)You just knew Warner would be the first one to monumentally crack.
:lol: He's singing like a canary
http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/jun/04/jack-warner-fifa-corruption-i-have-kept-quiet-i-will-do-so-no-more-live
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:12:51 AM
Post by: TheGuv on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:16:36 AM
Post by: Anon on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:32:06 AM
Is there any chance Platini could be dragged into this, particularly if there were bribes handed out for France 98?
They've said in the unsealed testimony that the France 98 bid was the result of bribery, so very possibly.
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:35:00 AM
Post by: EthiGeordie on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:39:38 AM
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:57:05 AM
It's pretty sad how keen these crooks are to appear to appear to be doing right after so many years of corruption and theft. Honourless sacks of s****.
It's what happens when rats get caught. They all turn on each other to save their own skin.
Post by: Peppe on Thursday 4 June 2015, 09:38:26 AM
Also, his name is essentially 'Throw Jacket', wtf?
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Thursday 4 June 2015, 09:39:39 AM
Wtf kind of name is Chuck Blazer? Sounds like a Bond villain.:lol:
Also, his name is essentially 'Throw Jacket', wtf?
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:01:53 AM
Post by: Northerngimp on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:41:36 AM
Wtf kind of name is Chuck Blazer? Sounds like a Bond villain.
Also, his name is essentially 'Throw Jacket', wtf?
Proper Bond bad guy. He had an appartment for 6k a month in a hotel, just for his cats! How to bring attention to yourself when taking backhanders.
Post by: John P on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:50:59 AM
https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/articles/qatar-hero/
Post by: GallowgateKev on Thursday 4 June 2015, 12:27:48 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:04:55 PM
Blatter is going doon quicker than Adam Johnson on a minor here mind!
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/NWg7M1VlT101W/200_s.gif)
Post by: Fugazi on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:21:52 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:35:29 PM
Post by: triggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 04:42:38 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:26:06 PM
what f***ing stadium
Post by: Shak on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:28:35 PM
Maybe they used it for some fancy seats in the directors boxes? :lol:
Post by: Ian W on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:29:46 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:29:50 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:30:52 PM
What legal case could Ireland have had anyway? Referee fails to spot handball? That's an extremely common occurrence in football.lost income due to ref incompetence? enough of a case to bribe the fai off anyway
Post by: Sima on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:34:57 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:37:31 PM
What legal case could Ireland have had anyway? Referee fails to spot handball? That's an extremely common occurrence in football.
Game was rigged? FIFA didn't want to run the risk of getting into difficulties over a lengthy court case....
Or you know Ireland could have just ponied up a cause of action against fifa, ref incompetence cost them money. Fifa appoints ref etc
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:38:38 PM
Henry punching it down for himself was f***ing hilarious, even moreso given how they totally f***ed off the WC when they got there while Ireland were crying at home kidding themselves that it's not a proper tournament without their lifting brand of football.
Trappatoni deserved to be a part of that tournament.
Post by: Stifleaay on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:39:15 PM
Post by: triggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:40:49 PM
Henry punching it down for himself was f***ing hilarious, even moreso given how they totally f***ed off the WC when they got there while Ireland were crying at home kidding themselves that it's not a proper tournament without their lifting brand of football.
That's not even slightly true. We've been to 3 world cups ever so we were just angry that we were denied a fourth by referee incompetence
Post by: Dave on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:49:17 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Post by: Si on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:52:42 PM
Henry punching it down for himself was f***ing hilarious, even moreso given how they totally f***ed off the WC when they got there while Ireland were crying at home kidding themselves that it's not a proper tournament without their lifting brand of football.Been bottling that up for a while? It was a shambles, they had every right to feel cheated.
Post by: joeyt on Thursday 4 June 2015, 07:58:08 PM
Is there any chance Platini could be dragged into this, particularly if there were bribes handed out for France 98?
They've said in the unsealed testimony that the France 98 bid was the result of bribery, so very possibly.
Isn't the bribe from Morocco though because they wanted to host it, not France?
Post by: Cronky on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:04:53 PM
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:06:58 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:10:02 PM
It's OK, it was just a loan. That they didn't have to pay back of they didn't qualify for the World Cup.
:lol:
Ireland renowned qualifiers for World Cups.
Post by: biggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 08:26:24 PM
Post by: Sima on Thursday 4 June 2015, 09:01:43 PM
Post by: ilikenewcastle on Thursday 4 June 2015, 09:05:10 PM
Wasn't it supposed to be that there was no seeding but because France and Portugal both f***ed up they decided to seed the play offs instead? There was more to the f*** up than the Henry goal.
There's definitely something dodgy about France. Not only did FIFA do that, they changed the rules again at the last World Cup to ensure an easier group for France. They always get p*ss easy groups in the draw and France were one of the few UEFA nations to vote for Blatter last week.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:01:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGqubpeWwAA7WJl.png)
and what he said today
"That was a Thursday and on Monday the agreement was all signed and all done. It’s a very good agreement for the FAI and a very legitimate agreement for the FAI."
so sporting intregity is prices at either $5m or €5m (FIFA and the FAI can't seem to agree on the denomination)
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:07:04 PM
:lol:
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:13:34 PM
I must be mental but I don't really see the problem with the Ireland thing. If Ireland sued Fifa the best they could have hoped for was monetary compensation. Fifa essentially gave them that money before they had chance to take it to court. This kind of thing happens in all walks of life all the time, especially in business. Think it's a non story.my issue isn't with FIFA on this, its with John Delaney and the FAI for keeping this quiet for 5 f***ing years
The rest of the allegations are a different matter however.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:15:03 PM
Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:17:27 PM
so i've not been able to follow this that closely but have the yanks basically savedfootballSoccer? :lol:
Yup.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:19:04 PM
so i've not been able to follow this that closely but have the yanks basically savedfootballSoccer? :lol:
Yup.
relentless dickheadery, only going to get worse after this :lol:
Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:22:17 PM
so i've not been able to follow this that closely but have the yanks basically savedfootballSoccer? :lol:
Yup.
relentless dickheadery, only going to get worse after this :lol:
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Yankee_179580_1109082.gif)
(The baseball is Soccer.)
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:26:38 PM
Post by: The Prophet on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:27:39 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:27:51 PM
so i've not been able to follow this that closely but have the yanks basically savedfootballSoccer? :lol:
Yup.
relentless dickheadery, only going to get worse after this :lol:
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Yankee_179580_1109082.gif)
(The baseball is Soccer.)
love the fat guy behind the main douche's left shoulder, he's what i imagine all american sports fans are like
Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:31:48 PM
I'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
:lol: Go on with that, man. We saved Soccer. We don't even like the s***. It was just about disrespect. We ask for something, you better god damn give it to us.
Post by: triggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:34:41 PM
It was also great of the USA to murder all those innocent people in the middle eastI'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
:lol: Go on with that, man. We saved Soccer. We don't even like the s***. It was just about disrespect. We ask for something, you better god damn give it to us.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:35:20 PM
I'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
Agreed, it's worse.
Post by: Dave on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:35:45 PM
Post by: 54 on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:36:05 PM
Shots fired! At Arabs!:lol: :lol:
Post by: Mike on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:36:11 PM
It was also great of the USA to murder all those innocent people in the middle eastI'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
:lol: Go on with that, man. We saved Soccer. We don't even like the s***. It was just about disrespect. We ask for something, you better god damn give it to us.
:lol: Everyone else is at a playful 1, and here you come with a serious as f*** 10.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:36:59 PM
Shots fired! At Arabs!
:lol:
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:37:34 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:39:14 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:41:19 PM
I'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
Agreed, it's worse.
You don't understand. It's like an entire fan base made up of Pips and Froggys on crank.
Post by: triggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:43:50 PM
Triggs is still p*ssed at Henry tbf, understandable reaction.:lol: Nah, I just like taking Mike down a peg or two when he gets all proud
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:47:20 PM
I'd like to clarify that the douchiness of Yankees fans does not necessarily represent the douchiness of the U.S.A.
Agreed, it's worse.
You don't understand. It's like an entire fan base made up of Pips and Froggys on crank.
So loads of Mike's then? noted.
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 4 June 2015, 10:56:23 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:04:22 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Henry punching it down for himself was f***ing hilarious, even moreso given how they totally f***ed off the WC when they got there while Ireland were crying at home kidding themselves that it's not a proper tournament without their lifting brand of football.Been bottling that up for a while? It was a shambles, they had every right to feel cheated.
Not at all, found it hilarious at the time too. No worse than a pen not being given or any other reffing error. The way the Irish cried on you'd have thought Henry held the ref at gun point while he shagged the ball home.
Everyone casually forgets the game would've gone to pens without the goal too.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:08:34 PM
In all fairness, Mike is a Knicks and Bills fan so there is no way in hell that you can put him in the Pip class. He might be the kind of dude who likes to Michael Hutchence his way to release, given the teams he supports, but he's no Froggy.
I know, i'm just taking the p*ss :lol: Mike knows i'm not serious. ( i think :lol: )
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:15:25 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:16:15 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:22:27 PM
Post by: triggs on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:46:46 PM
Blatter :lol:
Post by: Ho(llo)way on Thursday 4 June 2015, 11:49:11 PM
Post by: CFlan on Friday 5 June 2015, 12:23:31 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/john-delaney-sepp-blatter-stared-at-my-partner-emma-and-said-i-approve-i-told-him-to-move-on-31278411.html
Blatter :lol:
Delaney is such a f***ing c***, the way he's been speaking about Blatter this week without a hint of irony.
Post by: triggs on Friday 5 June 2015, 12:38:14 AM
Complete f***ing prick and he has the Denis O Brien owned media sticking up for him at every turnhttp://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/john-delaney-sepp-blatter-stared-at-my-partner-emma-and-said-i-approve-i-told-him-to-move-on-31278411.html
Blatter :lol:
Delaney is such a f***ing c***, the way he's been speaking about Blatter this week without a hint of irony.
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 5 June 2015, 12:47:52 AM
I still can't get over the fact the clown is paid €360k a year while the domestic league has been dying on its feet under his watch while he and the entire fai so sweet f*** all to try and help it or improve native player development just try and nick english players.Complete f***ing prick and he has the Denis O Brien owned media sticking up for him at every turnhttp://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/john-delaney-sepp-blatter-stared-at-my-partner-emma-and-said-i-approve-i-told-him-to-move-on-31278411.html
Blatter :lol:
Delaney is such a f***ing c***, the way he's been speaking about Blatter this week without a hint of irony.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 5 June 2015, 01:21:32 AM
Post by: Optimistic Nut on Friday 5 June 2015, 07:04:14 AM
I must be mental but I don't really see the problem with the Ireland thing. If Ireland sued Fifa the best they could have hoped for was monetary compensation. Fifa essentially gave them that money before they had chance to take it to court. This kind of thing happens in all walks of life all the time, especially in business. Think it's a non story.
The rest of the allegations are a different matter however.
Don't get what grounds Ireland would have for compensation even? Do England then ask for compensation for the Maradona handball, etc?
Post by: Miercoles on Friday 5 June 2015, 08:46:56 AM
I remember the game though, boy that was a s*** call
Post by: Geordiesned on Friday 5 June 2015, 03:24:52 PM
I must be mental but I don't really see the problem with the Ireland thing. If Ireland sued Fifa the best they could have hoped for was monetary compensation. Fifa essentially gave them that money before they had chance to take it to court. This kind of thing happens in all walks of life all the time, especially in business. Think it's a non story.
The rest of the allegations are a different matter however.
Don't get what grounds Ireland would have for compensation even? Do England then ask for compensation for the Maradona handball, etc?
Possibly yes if it happened in this day and age.
Maradona would get a six figure payout for spraining his wrist as a result of the ball being pumped up too hard in this day and age.
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Saturday 6 June 2015, 10:08:17 AM
Post by: triggs on Saturday 6 June 2015, 10:19:29 AM
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 6 June 2015, 11:23:05 AM
Post by: 54 on Saturday 6 June 2015, 02:28:35 PM
:lol: :lol:
I really want to see this now. Tim Roth man, have some resepect.
Post by: 54 on Saturday 6 June 2015, 02:37:43 PM
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
Post by: LRD on Saturday 6 June 2015, 02:54:12 PM
Post by: Anon on Saturday 6 June 2015, 03:06:37 PM
I mean look at this s***:
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
Can't wait for the sequel like :lol:
Post by: BlueStar on Saturday 6 June 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Saturday 6 June 2015, 03:33:33 PM
Post by: Northerngimp on Saturday 6 June 2015, 04:31:17 PM
I mean look at this s***:
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
f*** right off.
Post by: chicken little on Saturday 6 June 2015, 04:37:24 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 6 June 2015, 05:47:18 PM
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 6 June 2015, 06:24:32 PM
Isn't Tim Roth a West Ham fan?
Post by: magpie1892 on Saturday 6 June 2015, 08:40:21 PM
It's going to be a good comedy. :lol:
I had to watch it for work.
It's not even funny. It's just a pile of s****.
Post by: jdckelly on Saturday 6 June 2015, 08:47:00 PM
I mean look at this s***:£16m they spent on that, imagine the good that money could have done elsewhere at grassroots level in football but no FIFA administrators need a film to show how great they are.
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 6 June 2015, 08:52:12 PM
I mean look at this s***:£16m they spent on that, imagine the good that money could have done elsewhere at grassroots level in football but no FIFA administrators need a film to show how great they are.
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
Probably so deluded that they thought they'd make it back from the masses flocking to see it :lol:
Post by: Village Idiot on Sunday 7 June 2015, 09:09:07 AM
I mean look at this s***:£16m they spent on that, imagine the good that money could have done elsewhere at grassroots level in football but no FIFA administrators need a film to show how great they are.
https://youtu.be/JCjeD-Jqd2s
:lol:
Probably so deluded that they thought they'd make it back from the masses flocking to see it :lol:
Nah, the c***s probably made it just so they could pocket part of the budget, too. :lol:
Post by: Varadi on Sunday 7 June 2015, 11:06:37 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fifa-corruption-scandal-live-sepp-blatter-jack-warner-10302881.html
Post by: Skeletor on Sunday 7 June 2015, 11:08:19 AM
Turns out the 2010 World Cup should've been in Morocco:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fifa-corruption-scandal-live-sepp-blatter-jack-warner-10302881.html
No surprise.
Post by: magpie1892 on Sunday 7 June 2015, 11:26:24 AM
Turns out the 2010 World Cup should've been in Morocco:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fifa-corruption-scandal-live-sepp-blatter-jack-warner-10302881.html
But then we would have had a first Arab (as well as African) World Cup and FIFA would have missed out on the bribes from Qatar.
Second, Blatter genuinely believed (perhaps he still does) that he would win the Nobel Prize for Peace and this would have been greatly abetted by South Africa as opposed to Morocco.
Third, South Africa was able to pay bigger bribes. Morocco paid Jack Warner $1m for his vote, but SA paid him $10m, so he voted for SA and kept both bribes.
Post by: Teasy on Sunday 7 June 2015, 01:03:46 PM
Post by: Mick on Sunday 7 June 2015, 01:21:39 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-33039014
Post by: magpie1892 on Sunday 7 June 2015, 04:15:53 PM
Hard to tell who should have won really considering apparently Morocco were bribing people as well, they just got out bribed by South Africa :lol:
As I mentioned in the post above yours...
(and 2.5hrs before the Telegraph reported it)
Post by: Teasy on Sunday 7 June 2015, 05:30:43 PM
Post by: magpie1892 on Sunday 7 June 2015, 06:59:35 PM
Telegraph reporting that Warner was apparently engaged in a 'triple bluff' now. News to me, but hardly surprising behaviour from the lying, racist thief.
Overall, however, it's encouraging that there's an increasing belief that FIFA cannot survive this. I think that the majority of people that care about football want the total deconsturction of FIFA, and I certainly feel that way myself.
New administration with complete transparency - I don't see or hear anyone who would object to that, apart from FIFA.
p.s. love your avatar...
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Sunday 7 June 2015, 08:41:54 PM
Third, South Africa was able to pay bigger bribes. Morocco paid Jack Warner $1m for his vote, but SA paid him $10m, so he voted for SA and kept both bribes.
:lol: need a suitable warner smiley imo
Post by: Pandamninator on Sunday 7 June 2015, 10:39:25 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Sunday 7 June 2015, 10:43:33 PM
It was already clear, so many people are going to prison for this right? Not white collar resort prison, but federal pound me in the ass prison.
Send them to Florence imho.
Post by: Dave on Sunday 7 June 2015, 11:55:59 PM
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
Post by: BlufPurdi on Monday 8 June 2015, 12:01:01 AM
@sportingintel 54m54 minutes ago
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
:lol:
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 8 June 2015, 12:09:18 AM
@sportingintel 54m54 minutes agopeople actually paid money to go see it?
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 8 June 2015, 01:27:05 AM
@sportingintel 54m54 minutes ago
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
(http://i.imgur.com/DcpP1zA.gif)
Post by: oldtype on Monday 8 June 2015, 02:19:43 AM
It was already clear, so many people are going to prison for this right? Not white collar resort prison, but federal pound me in the ass prison.
Thankfully, there are federal white collar pound me in the ass resort prisons.
Post by: Mike on Monday 8 June 2015, 02:43:17 AM
@sportingintel 54m54 minutes ago
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
(http://i.imgur.com/DcpP1zA.gif)
:lol:
Post by: Varadi on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:56:59 AM
It was already clear, so many people are going to prison for this right? Not white collar resort prison, but federal pound me in the ass prison.
:lol: That's so weird, just watched that film last night.
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 8 June 2015, 09:50:53 AM
@sportingintel 54m54 minutes ago
STAT of the weekend: FIFA film United Passions made $607.00 (£397.63) in its opening weekend in the USA. (That's c.68 people of 314 million)
(http://i.imgur.com/DcpP1zA.gif)
Delicious.
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 8 June 2015, 10:06:15 AM
'The film currently has a rating of 0% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 9 reviews.[14] On Metacritic, the film has a 1 out of 100 rating based on 7 critics.[15] It is one of eight films in the history of the site to carry the lowest rating; the previous films being The Human Centipede 3 (Final Sequence), Not Cool, 10 Rules for Sleeping Around, inAPPropriate Comedy, Chaos, The Singing Forest, and Bio-Dome.'
Post by: Northerngimp on Monday 8 June 2015, 10:55:21 AM
From Wiki
'The film currently has a rating of 0% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 9 reviews.[14] On Metacritic, the film has a 1 out of 100 rating based on 7 critics.[15] It is one of eight films in the history of the site to carry the lowest rating; the previous films being The Human Centipede 3 (Final Sequence), Not Cool, 10 Rules for Sleeping Around, inAPPropriate Comedy, Chaos, The Singing Forest, and Bio-Dome.'
Bio Dome :lol: :lol:
Post by: NUFC_Chris on Monday 8 June 2015, 11:00:45 AM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 8 June 2015, 11:01:51 AM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Monday 8 June 2015, 11:04:51 AM
Man of his word :lol:
Post by: joeyt on Monday 8 June 2015, 06:18:52 PM
Post by: magpie1892 on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:35:50 PM
Jack Warner pocketed money meant to go to Haiti earthquake victims :anguish:
I think that's the one they'll actually get him for.
Deserves to die in jail.
Post by: Village Idiot on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:37:30 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Jack Warner pocketed money meant to go to Haiti earthquake victims :anguish:
Sheeeeit. :lol:
Post by: Mike on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:56:02 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:56:41 PM
Post by: Dave on Monday 8 June 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Waiting for it to come out that these execs have been keeping slaves or something.
They do, they're currently constructing stadia in the Middle East.
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:01:16 PM
Jack Warner pocketed money meant to go to Haiti earthquake victims :anguish:
Sheeeeit. :lol:
"The money was just resting in my account"
Post by: Mike on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:03:47 PM
Waiting for it to come out that these execs have been keeping slaves or something.
The auction boat from Taken was owned by FIFA.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:07:27 PM
Waiting for it to come out that these execs have been keeping slaves or something.
The auction boat from Taken was owned by FIFA.
Pop a mint julep in his hand and a sun hat on his head and ol' Sepp fits right in to 1840s Mississippi. :lol:
Post by: Mike on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:09:59 PM
Waiting for it to come out that these execs have been keeping slaves or something.
The auction boat from Taken was owned by FIFA.
Pop a mint julep in his hand and a sun hat on his head and ol' Sepp fits right in to 1840s Mississippi. :lol:
:lol: 1840 Mississippi, 2015 Qatar. Potato, potato.
Post by: triggs on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:31:31 PM
Jack Warner pocketed money meant to go to Haiti earthquake victims :anguish:f***ing hell. I'd be reasonably sure that Warner will escape jail time as well if he continues to rat out other people :lol:
Post by: 54 on Monday 8 June 2015, 08:39:36 PM
That saying really doesn't translate well to text :lol:Waiting for it to come out that these execs have been keeping slaves or something.
The auction boat from Taken was owned by FIFA.
Pop a mint julep in his hand and a sun hat on his head and ol' Sepp fits right in to 1840s Mississippi. :lol:
:lol: 1840 Mississippi, 2015 Qatar. Potato, potato.
Post by: Pandamninator on Tuesday 9 June 2015, 12:06:33 AM
It was already clear, so many people are going to prison for this right? Not white collar resort prison, but federal pound me in the ass prison.
:lol: That's so weird, just watched that film last night.
Watched it on the weekend, never has a movie quote about prison rape been so apt :lol:
Post by: joeyt on Wednesday 10 June 2015, 09:31:30 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 10 June 2015, 09:55:09 PM
Zico to run for FIFA President
One of my favorite ever players :smitten:
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 10 June 2015, 10:55:11 PM
Zico to run for FIFA President
One of my favorite ever players :smitten:
can i vote? :sweetjesus:
Post by: QuakesMag on Thursday 11 June 2015, 09:01:23 AM
Zico to run for FIFA President
One of my favorite ever players :smitten:
He inspired me more than anyone after Cruyff when I was a kid. The first World Cup that I really cared about was '82, and I still remember how upset I was when Italy beat Brazil.
Post by: LFEE on Thursday 11 June 2015, 09:24:37 AM
:thup:Zico to run for FIFA President
One of my favorite ever players :smitten:
He inspired me more than anyone after Cruyff when I was a kid. The first World Cup that I really cared about was '82, and I still remember how upset I was when Italy beat Brazil.
Post by: Flip on Thursday 11 June 2015, 09:27:18 AM
I'd love Zico to become president for the fact that he seems extremely honest and has always been loved wherever he's been. My only problem is installing a Brazilian at the helm again, it's just bound for failure once again.
Post by: 54 on Thursday 11 June 2015, 12:07:24 PM
BREAKING: EU Parliament calls for Sepp Blatter to step down as FIFA president with immediate effect. #SSNHQ
Post by: BlufPurdi on Thursday 11 June 2015, 01:45:32 PM
* Not ordinary folk.
** Remember the last game of the season was being suggested that it be played in the US a while back?
Just flinging thoughts out there.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Friday 12 June 2015, 11:30:42 PM
:lol:
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Saturday 13 June 2015, 12:44:19 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 13 June 2015, 12:48:35 AM
Post by: JUICE690 on Saturday 13 June 2015, 12:56:41 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-fifa-official-responds-to-comedian-fool-john-oliver/
:lol:
Quote
It turns out that the music for Warner’s video was directly ripped (or more accurately, ripped off) from a YouTube video literally titled “Epic and Dramatic Trailer Music.”:lol:
Post by: JUICE690 on Saturday 13 June 2015, 01:19:25 AM
Just plain outrageous from Fifa, let them all f***ing burn.
https://ww w.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I
Post by: BillClinton on Saturday 13 June 2015, 04:02:54 AM
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Saturday 13 June 2015, 09:36:18 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-fifa-official-responds-to-comedian-fool-john-oliver/
:lol:QuoteIt turns out that the music for Warner’s video was directly ripped (or more accurately, ripped off) from a YouTube video literally titled “Epic and Dramatic Trailer Music.”:lol:
"This asshole stole my music without my permission" :lol: :lol:
Post by: Tiresias on Saturday 13 June 2015, 09:50:27 AM
Post by: Parky on Sunday 14 June 2015, 06:10:19 AM
Post by: antz1uk on Sunday 14 June 2015, 10:01:40 AM
Post by: sempuki on Sunday 14 June 2015, 10:16:18 AM
Post by: Mike on Sunday 14 June 2015, 12:06:12 PM
:lol: This f***ing guy.
Post by: Parky on Sunday 14 June 2015, 12:32:07 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 19 June 2015, 07:58:36 AM
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 27 June 2015, 08:50:13 AM
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 27 June 2015, 08:53:10 AM
http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/sepps-still-standing-fifa-president-says-he-didnt-resign/6513He must think everyone has forgotten. Crazy, crazy man.
Post by: BlufPurdi on Saturday 27 June 2015, 09:16:33 AM
Post by: nufcjb on Saturday 27 June 2015, 09:16:39 AM
Post by: Scoot on Saturday 27 June 2015, 09:51:45 AM
Post by: Andybiotics on Saturday 27 June 2015, 09:58:44 AM
The guy has completely lost the plot. :idiot2:
He said he wanted to play the World Cup in space someday man.
Guy is an absolute clown.
Post by: BlueStar on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:31:14 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:33:41 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:33:59 PM
Post by: Fugazi on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:34:21 PM
Post by: JUICE690 on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:36:57 PM
Tiresome chucklefuck Simon Brodkin has chucked a wad of cash at Blatter before his speech.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWN44OAhnQc
No idea what his saying mind.
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:39:03 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:40:10 PM
Post by: Sho'Time on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:40:23 PM
Post by: Disco on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:44:46 PM
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Post by: B-more Mag on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:46:22 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:47:16 PM
Post by: JUICE690 on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Post by: KaKa on Monday 20 July 2015, 02:58:19 PM
:lol: The way Blatter sort of flinches and backs away like he's never seen cash before.
That had me howling. Guy was terrified when Lee Nelson made it rain. :lol:
At least proves he has never been a stripper before.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:02:01 PM
Tiresome or not. I like it.
no idea who lee nelson is but the more people that publicly humiliate blatter the better to me
Post by: SEMTEX on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:05:53 PM
Post by: Fenham Mag on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:08:07 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:16:42 PM
:lol: The way Blatter sort of flinches and backs away like he's never seen cash before.
Those were mere one dollar bills. Of course he's going to be disgusted.
Post by: Anderson on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:18:55 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:19:27 PM
Post by: KaKa on Monday 20 July 2015, 03:26:24 PM
:lol: The way Blatter sort of flinches and backs away like he's never seen cash before.
Those were mere one dollar bills. Of course he's going to be disgusted.
;D
Post by: Sima on Monday 20 July 2015, 05:23:54 PM
f***ing worm.
Post by: Dokko on Monday 20 July 2015, 05:27:41 PM
'Where is my security?'
f***ing worm.
Can't wait till he utters that line in a prison shower.
Post by: 1892 on Monday 20 July 2015, 06:07:39 PM
At last Blatter gets it. :D
Post by: Stifleaay on Monday 20 July 2015, 06:15:42 PM
Post by: Mattoon on Monday 20 July 2015, 08:37:27 PM
Post by: neesy111 on Monday 20 July 2015, 11:29:31 PM
After all the stunts Lee Nelson has pulled you would have thought that he wouldn't be allowed into press conference.
:pokerface:
Post by: Geordiesned on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 03:21:50 PM
Lee Nelson is a cock, but this was sublime, I have to give him kudos for that.
Completely agree. Absolute genius and Blatter's reaction made it even better.
Post by: afar on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 03:27:45 PM
Post by: Dave on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 04:13:31 PM
Post by: healthyaddiction on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 04:14:30 PM
Post by: Mr Logic on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 05:01:42 PM
:lol: The way Blatter sort of flinches and backs away like he's never seen cash before.
Those were mere one dollar bills. Of course he's going to be disgusted.
:lol:
Post by: Geordiesned on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 06:18:23 PM
Post by: triggs on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 06:22:05 PM
That Lee Nelson (or whatever his real name is) is being charged by Swiss Police with trespassing, presumably because FIFA have pushed for it. I very much doubt the police would be arsed about it otherwise. They're just making themselves look even more pathetic now.Hope he gets locked up forever. Tedious c***
Post by: Dogmatix on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 06:27:31 PM
That Lee Nelson (or whatever his real name is) is being charged by Swiss Police with trespassing, presumably because FIFA have pushed for it. I very much doubt the police would be arsed about it otherwise. They're just making themselves look even more pathetic now.Hope he gets locked up forever. Tedious c***
Can't argue with you on that score, But Blatter's face and reaction were priceless
Post by: Skeletor on Tuesday 21 July 2015, 07:42:32 PM
Would be better with this dubbed over the top.
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 9 September 2015, 04:38:19 PM
@AliBinAlHussein
That is why I stand here in the timeless heart of Amman to once again launch my candidacy for the Presidency of FIFA. #aliforfifa
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 9 September 2015, 05:16:08 PM
Post by: Pandamninator on Monday 14 September 2015, 10:39:31 PM
I wonder which one of the original 14 arrested is squealing?
Post by: Disco on Thursday 17 September 2015, 08:44:08 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Thursday 17 September 2015, 08:48:20 PM
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Thursday 17 September 2015, 08:56:12 PM
@martynziegler: BREAKING: FIFA announce that Secretary General Jérôme Valcke has been put on leave and released from his duties effective immediately 1/2
Good. About time the world reverts back to female secretaries.
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 17 September 2015, 08:58:02 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/17/fifa-jerome-valcke-world-cup-tickets
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Thursday 17 September 2015, 08:59:40 PM
Post by: Disco on Thursday 17 September 2015, 09:16:51 PM
Post by: Dave on Thursday 17 September 2015, 09:37:04 PM
Hearing Jérôme Valcke was en route to Moscow today for a World Cup event. Suggestions plane turned around mid-flight to return to Zurich.
— Richard Conway (@richard_conway) September 17, 2015
Beautiful.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 17 September 2015, 10:45:45 PM
@AndrewOrsatti
Valcke aside, things are about to get even worse for #FIFA. Major FIFPro announcement is LIVE at 1030 Brussels time
director of communications for fifpro
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 17 September 2015, 10:54:29 PM
Post by: Pandamninator on Tuesday 22 September 2015, 02:46:45 AM
:memelol:
First of many.
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:27:35 PM
Sam Borden @SamBorden 1m1 minute ago
BREAKING: Swiss police search and seize data from Sepp Blatter's office as part of criminal investigation.
And then this...
NYT Sports @NYTSports 4m4 minutes ago
Criminal proceedings against Sepp Blatter announced by Swiss Federal Office of Justice.
Post by: nufcjb on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:30:40 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:31:59 PM
Has he been arrested?
Being questioned by the Swiss Attorney General at the minute, according to the BBC. He's done for anyway.
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:35:08 PM
Swiss case alleges Blatter gave 2 million franc ``disloyal payment'' to UEFA head Michel Platini. Platini was favorite to replace Blatter
and Platini caught up in it too, beautiful
Post by: Ameritoon on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:36:01 PM
Post by: 54 on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:43:16 PM
Post by: timeEd32 on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:51:28 PM
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:55:09 PM
Post by: timeEd32 on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:55:21 PM
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:56:27 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:57:14 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:57:21 PM
I think he'll kill himself.he'll make for Russia with his new best friend Putin
Post by: Hanshithispantz on Friday 25 September 2015, 03:58:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/4dUJvWI.gif):lol:
Post by: B-more Mag on Friday 25 September 2015, 04:01:05 PM
Post by: Sho'Time on Friday 25 September 2015, 04:03:55 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 26 September 2015, 01:33:26 AM
Probably this. But God there are no words to describe how good this is. Memes can't even cover it.I think he'll kill himself.he'll make for Russia with his new best friend Putin
Post by: Stifleaay on Saturday 26 September 2015, 07:04:07 AM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 26 September 2015, 08:15:30 AM
(http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/avs/avatar_11563_1442935730.png)Hopefully Squires does a Blatter cartoon this week.
Post by: 54 on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:24:47 PM
Seriously what needs to happen for this fucktard to go down :lol:
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:32:17 PM
Sepp Blatter has said he will remain as Fifa president despite criminal proceedings being opened against him by Swiss investigators.may not have a say if fifas "independent" ethics committee decide to suspend him.
Seriously what needs to happen for this fucktard to go down :lol:
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:39:25 PM
FIFA: Michel Platini tells Uefa associations: The £1.35m Fifa paid him in 2011 was "the final outstanding amount" for work he did 1998-2002.
David Conn @david_conn 12s12 seconds ago
FIFA: Platini to European FAs. He had a "full-time job" for Fifa 1998-2002; the £1.35m Fifa paid him 9 yrs later was final payment for it.
Post by: Disco on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:41:29 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:43:16 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:47:10 PM
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:47:35 PM
no explanation for the 9 year delay in payment though
The explanation is that it's blatantly a massive crap lie.
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Monday 28 September 2015, 04:48:32 PM
no explanation for the 9 year delay in payment though
The explanation is that it's blatantly a massive crap lie.
FIFA portions probs short a bit cash.
Post by: triggs on Monday 28 September 2015, 05:15:51 PM
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Coca-Cola calls for Sepp Blatter to step down immediately as Fifa president
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) October 2, 2015
(http://i.imgur.com/q9mq1C1.gif)
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 08:47:06 PM
McDonald's issue statement saying it would be in the 'best interests of the game' for Sepp Blatter to step down. pic.twitter.com/OSpGtvPPAv
— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) October 2, 2015
Bye bye.
Post by: 54 on Friday 2 October 2015, 08:48:51 PM
Post by: Dokko on Friday 2 October 2015, 08:50:08 PM
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Quote
McDonald's Statement on FIFA
The events of recent weeks have continued to diminish the reputation of FIFA and public confidence in its leadership. We believe it would be in the best interest of the game for FIFA President Sepp Blatter to step down immediately so that the reform process can proceed with the credibility that is needed.
Post by: firetotheworks on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:03:48 PM
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:04:38 PM
Breaking: Sepp Blatter's lawyer: "leaving office now would not be in the best interest of FIFA... He will not resign."
— Richard Conway (@richard_conway) October 2, 2015
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:06:45 PM
Post by: triggs on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:11:19 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:19:39 PM
Post by: bhoywhonder on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:20:48 PM
U Ok hun???
Post by: Dave on Friday 2 October 2015, 09:32:37 PM
Post by: antz1uk on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:08:15 PM
Post by: Mike on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:10:57 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:15:42 PM
:lol: World Cup 2018! Sponsored by Ssips Lemonade, Checkers Hamburgers and Discover Card.
:sweetjesus:
Post by: Mike on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:16:52 PM
:lol: World Cup 2018! Sponsored by Ssips Lemonade, Checkers Hamburgers and Discover Card.
:sweetjesus:
:lol: No lie, Big Buford sounds right atm.
Post by: 54 on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:35:22 PM
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Friday 2 October 2015, 10:39:12 PM
Post by: Ian W on Saturday 3 October 2015, 12:15:27 AM
Post by: triggs on Saturday 3 October 2015, 12:22:12 AM
so its now they choose to pipe up, not the constant corruption over the years, not the fact the world cup is going to a country where being gay is a crime and blatters response was: "I would say they should refrain from any sexual activities." The worker deaths etc and then theres the fact they bid for a summer world cup promising technology to cool the stadiums which turns out to be a load of bullshit and it gets moved to winter. But instead of voicing concerns then with all those valid concerns they choose to condemn him when he's a dead man walking. f*** em:thup:
Post by: Mole_Toonfan on Saturday 3 October 2015, 12:57:43 AM
Glad to see such fine, upstanding companies are getting their s*** together finally. Not like they should have absolutely nothing to do with sports sponsorship in the first place or anything.
Eh? not sure what that has do with anything.
Post by: Raconteur on Saturday 3 October 2015, 06:32:02 AM
Post by: U2 on Saturday 3 October 2015, 08:51:35 AM
Post by: firetotheworks on Saturday 3 October 2015, 09:08:57 AM
:lol: World Cup 2018! Sponsored by Ssips Lemonade, Checkers Hamburgers and Discover Card.Is Discover card a running joke in America? In Futurama when Fry's in the distant future and he goes through Visa, Mastercard etc and they all no longer exist then he gets to Discover and the guy's like 'ohh sorry, we don't take Discover'
Post by: sempuki on Saturday 3 October 2015, 10:22:49 AM
Post by: Anon on Saturday 3 October 2015, 01:03:24 PM
Not sure who has the bigger ego - Blatter or Pardew.
Or who perpetrates the most crimes against football.
Post by: Interpolic on Saturday 3 October 2015, 01:10:12 PM
Don't let the b******s get you down Sepp
:lol:
Post by: dinotheprehistoricgeordie on Saturday 3 October 2015, 01:13:42 PM
Post by: SEMTEX on Saturday 3 October 2015, 01:57:06 PM
:lol: World Cup 2018! Sponsored by Ssips Lemonade, Checkers Hamburgers and Discover Card.Is Discover card a running joke in America? In Futurama when Fry's in the distant future and he goes through Visa, Mastercard etc and they all no longer exist then he gets to Discover and the guy's like 'ohh sorry, we don't take Discover'
:lol: It's just not a very widely accepted card type that's all. Similar to AMEX but AMEX is COOL and Discover is kind of desperate. For no good reason whatsoever.
Post by: sbnufc on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 06:04:05 PM
Post by: firetotheworks on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 06:04:52 PM
Post by: Interpolic on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 06:12:28 PM
Blatter's been suspended harrrrrrrr.
Post by: sbnufc on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 06:34:12 PM
How does one suspend themselves?
(https://www.drupal.org/files/shia-magic.gif)
Post by: magpie1892 on Wednesday 7 October 2015, 06:38:20 PM
Blatter been suspended by FIFA for 90 days
No, he hasn't (more's the pity).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34468663
Post by: magpie1892 on Thursday 8 October 2015, 11:31:48 AM
That's got to be it for Blatter now, surely? With a bit of luck he'll die in jail.
Post by: GeordieDazzler on Thursday 8 October 2015, 11:31:50 AM
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:00:50 PM
Post by: HawK on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:03:34 PM
Sepp Blatter makes his way into FIFA HQ tomorrow.
"Yes, I am suspended, see?"
Post by: Newcastle Fan on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:25:21 PM
Post by: Scoot on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:31:43 PM
FIFA confirm 90-day bans for Septic, Platini and Valcke.
That's got to be it for Blatter now, surely? With a bit of luck he'll die in jail.
Why doesn't Blatter just quit FFS. He seems to want to hang onto his job for dear life. Its become cringeworthy.
Post by: John P on Thursday 8 October 2015, 12:34:28 PM
Michel Platini is often seen as the ex-pro coming to save Fifa. But why did he vote for Qatar?
Wednesday 17th December By Philippe Auclair
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“Let me tell you a tale,” my friend said, “a tale in the Oriental style.”
This friend will remain anonymous, for two reasons: firstly, while he won’t mind my re-telling the tale in question he would probably prefer not to see his own name in print; secondly, his name wouldn’t mean much to most readers anyway. This friend could adopt Descartes’s larvatus prodeo [masked, I proceed] as his motto, as the path he’s followed in football, which took him to very high places indeed, remains largely uncharted. He wouldn’t have it any other way.
This conversation took place at his (unmarked, unlisted) London office, six weeks before Fifa chose Russia and Qatar to be the respective hosts of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. To say that these decisions came as a surprise to my interlocutor would be a wild exaggeration, as, that afternoon, after fielding calls from Sepp Blatter and Mohammed Bin Hammam, he assured me that the Russians would walk it, that England would be lucky to get more than a solitary vote and that it was touch and go for the Qataris to bag the prize in the first round. I passed on the information to my contacts at England 2018, who clearly thought that my source had offered me something stronger than espresso at our meeting. We all know what happened in the end. But let’s go back to the tale itself.
“Once, there was a French president whom we shall call Nicolas. He didn’t have much money. In fact, he was desperate for some but, thankfully, his good friend the emir had plenty of it. The emir told him that he’d buy all sorts of things from France, expensive things like planes and nuclear power stations and Nicolas was very happy. But then the emir said, ‘There’s one condition, though, just a little thing.’
“‘What could it be?’ Nicolas asked.
“‘Just tell Michel to give us the World Cup,’ the emir replied.
“Nicolas didn’t have much of a choice. He needed the money. So he asked Michel to do what he was told, and Michel said he’d do it.”
This is only a tale, of course. Maybe it’s true and maybe it’s not. I pass it on it as it was given to me, minus some details related to the way the Qataris used their huge campaign budget to promote their bid. I was troubled, though. It was true that Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, ruler of Qatar, had travelled incognito to Paris a few days before this conversation took place — ‘incognito’, in this case, meant not staying at the Hôtel Lambert, his palatial residence on the Île Saint-Louis, but instead taking over a whole floor at the Royal-Monceau hotel, which he, or his country, or his country’s sovereign fund, which is pretty much the same thing, happened to own as well.
The aim of that visit was not to secure a vote at the forthcoming Fifa Congress, not primarily anyway. The French government was thinking of selling a significant stake of Areva, a state-owned body which controls the country’s nuclear industry from uranium mines to power stations, to the gas-rich emirate. The transaction didn’t take place in the end, partly because of an almighty uproar in the French media. But it demonstrated the strength of the links between France and the minuscule Gulf state, three-quarters of whose 1.7m residents are ‘guest workers’, mostly shipped in from the Indian sub-continent, who enjoy no civic rights and are treated in such a shocking way by their employers that, in November 2011, the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC) asked Fifa to re-consider their choice of Qatar as World Cup-hosting country. Good luck to them.
Who was the first head of state to make an official visit to the Élysée palace after Nicolas Sarkozy’s election to the presidency in 2007? Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani. That was good business for la République. France sold Qatar £208m worth of defence equipment on that occasion, as well as a fleet of sixty Airbus 350s. And if Nicolas and Hamad like each other, the same can be said of Carla and Moza, that is Carla Bruni, the pop-singing wife of Nicolas, a regular guest in Doha, and Sheikha Moza al-Misned, the wife of Sheikh Hamad, the figurehead of the Qatar 2022 bid and president of the Qatar Foundation, the ‘charity’ which disburses £25m each year to make sure Barcelona don’t have to lower themselves to endorsing a commercial shirt sponsor1.
In the context of geopolitics, the Uefa president and Fifa vice-president Michel Platini, whether he says tu to Nicolas Sarkozy or not (he does — they go back a long way), is a prestigious but not overly significant cog in the wheel of the Franco-Qatari ‘special relationship’, which is not to say he is without consequence from a football perspective. One of his greatest assets must be that, as a recognised great of the game, his views carry far more weight than those of the Swiss former amateur goalkeeper Sepp Blatter. To question him is, somehow, to question the near-genius of Juventus and Les Bleus — something like walking into a Greenpeace convention wearing a ‘DOLPHINS ARE b******s’ T-shirt or finding out that the ethereal Isolde you were in love with had an inch-thick dossier at the local VD clinic.
This might explain why I was met with a rather cool reaction when I suggested to a few people back in France that my tale at least provided us with a lead worth following. We French tend to be very protective of the powerful, especially when they hold a prestigious position in an international organisation and contribute to the grandeur of our nation. Even Dominique Strauss-Kahn. A pity, in that case, as Michel Platini himself confirmed in March 2012 that Sarkozy had told him over lunch that “it would be a good thing if I did it” — that is, vote for Qatar. But, of course, this didn’t mean the president had specifically asked him to do so, as he knew “that I am free and independent.” Honesty or impudence? Or both? The man who can keep a straight face when describing himself as “a player at heart, not a politician” has developed a remarkable gift for presenting the indefensible as if it were dictated by self-evident common sense.
How on earth does he get away with it? Take his proposal to hold the 2022 World Cup in winter, an option that neither Fifa nor the Qatari organisers themselves had studied or were in favour of, and which he made without having consulted any of his experts about the impact this might have on club football. “I thought, after South Africa 2010”, he said, “where it was 0° at 5pm and there was no life [sic] for the fans, how can we ask the fans and players to go to this country when it is 50 or 60° in July? [...] The best time to play is winter. [...] What is the problem for the Premier League to finish at the end of May instead of the beginning, and recuperate this time in December? We have to put the World Cup and the fans first.”
Breathtaking stuff, all the more so since Platini had sung a rather different tune immediately after Qatar had been chosen to host the 2022 tournament, suggesting a switch to a cooler time of the year in the Middle-East, that’s true, but also reminding us that, “the temperature in Dallas [at the 1994 World Cup] was over 40° in 1994, if I’m not mistaken, and nobody criticised the US at the time.” He didn’t mind the idea of air-conditioned stadia and fan-zones then, it seems. He also thought it might be a good idea to have the 2022 World Cup games played outside as well as in Qatar, so that it became a Gulf-wide competition — not such a stupid notion, come to think of it, but one it might have been more suitable to put forward before the vote had taken place and after having informed the Qataris themselves. That other bidding countries — Australia, the USA, South Korea and Japan — might be aggrieved didn’t seem to have crossed Platini’s mind. The provisos and specifications around which they’d built their dossiers, spending fortunes in the process, could apparently be jettisoned on a whim of the Fifa vice-president, but the apostle of fair-play wasn’t perturbed in the least. The fact is that only one of the twenty-two members left in the Fifa executive committee after the ban imposed on Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii had requested a copy of the technical report compiled by the organisation’s own inspectors, a report in which Qatar 2022 was the only bid given a ‘high risk’ rating. It’s true that these gentlemen are known for their very relaxed attitude to ‘detail’ and that, in that respect if not all others, Michel Platini is no different from his fellow ExCo members. After all, this is the man who said that, “in Spain, the owners are the fans, the socios,” when only four of La Liga clubs are run on these lines, and who had to be reminded that Uefa’s Financial Fair-Play (FFP) regulations would have to be approved by the European Commission before they could be implemented. A micro-manager Platini is not.
Still, tearing up the rule-book which had guided everyone — Qatar included — during the bidding process was surely unthinkable. Wouldn’t the losers have every right to pursue the matter in the courts? When asked these questions, Platini responded with the insouciance of an 18th century roué. “Who will remember the words in 12 years?” he shrugged. “In 12 years, everybody will be happy to have a very well-organised World Cup and not remember what’s happened before. When I organised the World Cup in France, we did [things] differently from what we proposed in the bid.” That’s what Platini is so good at: to proffer enormities which are so, well, enormous, that whoever hears them is momentarily lost for words, by which time he’s trampling daisies in another field, singing a little air of his confection.
“When I organised the World Cup...” True, Platini was one of the chief coordinators of France’s World Cup Committee. But poor Fernand Sastre, the French Football Federation administrator for whom bringing the tournament to France had been the ambition of a lifetime and who died on 13 June 1998, three days after its opening ceremony. This is Platini’s way.
Platini’s glowing endorsement of the “magnificent” Qatari bid has landed him in some awkward spots since the December 2010 vote, however. When the emirate’s ruling family bought Paris St-Germain FC in June 2011 through Qatar Sports Investments (QSI) and immediately started pumping millions into the ailing club (€42m on purchasing Javier Pastore from Palermo alone), it could have been expected that the crusader for FFP would step forward and issue a stern warning to the new owners. And he did — after a fashion. “We don’t know their budget yet,” he said in March of this year. “They’ll come to present it [to Uefa]. We have to observe, adapt, that’s not easy. We must stay true to a philosophy which has been endorsed by Uefa — and we will and the PSG owners will as well, otherwise they won’t play in our competitions, or they’ll have other problems, but I don’t know anything at all [about that].” The Al Thani family must have been trembling when they heard that. Speaking to one of Platini’s closest aides, the Uefa general secretary Gianni Infantino, at a recent football forum, it became clear to me that “I don’t know anything at all” would be the default response to most if not all questions about the actual implementation of the rules which are supposed to represent Platini’s legacy to the football world. Real Madrid’s project of building a fantasy island in the Gulf to raise gazillions of dollars: fair or unfair? “We’ll see.” Manchester City’s sale of naming rights to Etihad: fair or unfair? “We’ll see.” The decision by Uefa to centralise the negotiation of TV rights on behalf of everyone else, anything to do with (Qatar-based, and Qatari-owned) Al Jazeera’s transparent plans to become the exclusive broadcaster of football’s major events? “...”
Vagueness, of course, makes it easier to disguise (and live with) contradictions, with which Platini’s speech and “philosophy”, the word he uses himself, are replete. “I know I’m defending something which is not defensible anymore,” he sighs, portraying himself for a second as the slightly old-fashioned but engaging uncle whose views are tolerated by the family because of his advancing years. “I’m not a great fan of foreign owners, but the laws are the laws, and I can’t do anything about it.” Sulejman Karimov’s spending at Anzhi Makhachkala? “At least the man who is putting all this money into Anzhi comes from there, so he has a local connection, and that’s fine. It’s a new world.” Eh? What about the Glazers at Manchester United then? You’d expect him to tear into the Yanks, but no, not really. “I’m not bothered by their debt, since they’re able to pay it back.” You must have heard how Uefa and the European Clubs Association (ECA) have agreed to tick off one friendly from the international calendar; it was less widely reported that ECA, which had made veiled threats of going it alone and creating their own European tournament, got something more from Platini’s organisation: clubs will share €100m from profits generated during Euro 2012 and “an estimated €150m from the 2016 edition”. ECA’s been very quiet since then. Where does bribery start? And corruption?
It becomes maddening, after a while. Another example: what constitutes the ‘identity’ of a club for Platini would baffle anyone steeped in a British football culture and, dare I say, quite a few of the juventini who adopted him as one of their own when, having run down his contract at Saint-Étienne, he joined the Old Lady in 1982, the French club receiving only a nominal fee. For him, identity has to do with the owners, the players, the coaches, who now “come and go” and, down the list, the fans. His opinion became clear in his address to a group of supporters’ organisations in April 2012 when he admitted fans were the “only identity” left, but then let slip that these fans to whom “football belongs as well” [my italics], would have their views taken into consideration “when we would be able to do so.” Why, thanks a lot! His weird obsession with the faults of English football, which he jokingly puts down to “the legendary rivalry between England and France, that’s all” leads him to statements which, were they directed at a different target, would not go down at all well, coming as they do from the head of a pan-European organisation. “When you have some English players on the field, they are playing not so bad,” he quipped in January of this year. We’re still waiting for observations of that kind about Serie A, which provides three of the top five “clubs that fielded the fewest association-trained players” in the 2010-11 season, according to a recent International Centre for Sports Studies (CIES) study2.
But I realise that I’m falling in the trap that Platini sets for whoever follows his meandering track with a critical eye: it is I who get lost. His own progress has been mapped ever since he retired as a player, 25 years ago, and probably before that. In 2015, regardless of his denials, he will be anointed Sepp Blatter’s successor by Fifa. Blatter, whom he says “is no angel... a typical politician” but “not corrupt, honest, 200%”; Blatter whom he’ll try “to help finish his mandate well, because it is for the good of the game.” He says, he doesn’t know “what I will do in four years.” Can we have a guess, Michel?
One thing he will not be too concerned about until then is the well-being of his 33-year-old son Laurent who, in January of this year, became legal advisor for the European operations department of a rather large and wealthy corporation: Qatar Sports Investments.
Post by: triggs on Thursday 8 October 2015, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: Big Geordie on Thursday 8 October 2015, 01:18:51 PM
Post by: triggs on Thursday 8 October 2015, 01:38:33 PM
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 8 October 2015, 02:45:44 PM
Lots of incestuous relationships going on. :( Anyone genuinely believe that our own FA and PL are free of corruption?
The very fact they tell refs to be lenient on the 'bigger players' means the answer is a definite no.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 October 2015, 02:54:55 PM
Post by: loki679 on Thursday 8 October 2015, 05:03:34 PM
Post by: BlueStar on Thursday 8 October 2015, 05:57:49 PM
Breaking: "UEFA Executive Committee expressed its full confidence in UEFA President, Michel Platini, and stands fully behind him."
Breaking: "UEFA President will immediately take all necessary steps to appeal the decision of the FIFA Ethics Committee to clear his name."
Michel Platini defying Fifa ethics committee, won't stand aside at Uefa.
Post by: jdckelly on Thursday 8 October 2015, 06:02:20 PM
@richard_conway:honest to god every single fa, confederation and fifa itself needs to be disbanded and started from scratch
Breaking: "UEFA Executive Committee expressed its full confidence in UEFA President, Michel Platini, and stands fully behind him."
Breaking: "UEFA President will immediately take all necessary steps to appeal the decision of the FIFA Ethics Committee to clear his name."
Michel Platini defying Fifa ethics committee, won't stand aside at Uefa.
Post by: oldtype on Thursday 8 October 2015, 06:43:17 PM
Then, in the same report, they go and hit some Korean dude with 6 years.
Given what Blatter has done, I'm just going to go ahead and assume the Korean dude committed genocide or something. :lol:
Post by: newsted on Thursday 8 October 2015, 06:50:27 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Thursday 8 October 2015, 11:57:09 PM
Blatter, Platini and Valcke all get 90 days.
Then, in the same report, they go and hit some Korean dude with 6 years.
Given what Blatter has done, I'm just going to go ahead and assume the Korean dude committed genocide or something. :lol:
that's the same korean with a track record of massive embezzlement or fraud or something, is it not? :lol:
EDIT: sorry his bro, sure he's clean tho
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/17/football/south-korea-chung-mong-joon-fifa/
Post by: oldtype on Friday 9 October 2015, 03:02:55 AM
Blatter, Platini and Valcke all get 90 days.
Then, in the same report, they go and hit some Korean dude with 6 years.
Given what Blatter has done, I'm just going to go ahead and assume the Korean dude committed genocide or something. :lol:
that's the same korean with a track record of massive embezzlement or fraud or something, is it not? :lol:
EDIT: sorry his bro, sure he's clean tho
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/17/football/south-korea-chung-mong-joon-fifa/
Not a particularly nice guy either, but we're meant to believe that whatever he's done within FIFA is 24x worse than Blatter? Really?
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Friday 9 October 2015, 03:14:10 AM
Ah, well, ahemBlatter, Platini and Valcke all get 90 days.
Then, in the same report, they go and hit some Korean dude with 6 years.
Given what Blatter has done, I'm just going to go ahead and assume the Korean dude committed genocide or something.
that's the same korean with a track record of massive embezzlement or fraud or something, is it not?
EDIT: sorry his bro, sure he's clean tho
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/17/football/south-korea-chung-mong-joon-fifa/
Not a particularly nice guy either, but we're meant to believe that whatever he's done within FIFA is 24x worse than Blatter? Really?
Post by: Anon on Friday 9 October 2015, 06:15:45 AM
:megusta:
Post by: Shay's Given Tim Flowers on Friday 9 October 2015, 10:55:32 AM
Blatter been suspended but won't leave FIFA HQ :lol:
Like on to catch a predator when they don't want to leave the house.
Post by: Kaizero on Friday 9 October 2015, 10:45:19 PM
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Saturday 10 October 2015, 03:00:29 AM
Post by: Flip on Saturday 10 October 2015, 10:23:27 AM
@richard_conway:honest to god every single fa, confederation and fifa itself needs to be disbanded and started from scratch
Breaking: "UEFA Executive Committee expressed its full confidence in UEFA President, Michel Platini, and stands fully behind him."
Breaking: "UEFA President will immediately take all necessary steps to appeal the decision of the FIFA Ethics Committee to clear his name."
Michel Platini defying Fifa ethics committee, won't stand aside at Uefa.
:thup: Very few out there that are honest organizations.
Post by: jdckelly on Sunday 11 October 2015, 06:07:58 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/11/fifas-135m-payment-to-michel-platini-there-was-no-written-contract?CMP=share_btn_tw
Post by: Robster on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 03:25:18 PM
#FIFA's ethics committee says German former footballer Franz Beckenbauer is under investigation
Post by: Disco on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 03:29:03 PM
"I have not seen a single slave in Qatar. I don’t know where those reports come from. I have been to Qatar many times and therefore have a different view, which, I believe, is more realistic."
Post by: Sima on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 03:34:05 PM
Post by: Kimbo on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 03:42:32 PM
Post by: Big Geordie on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 04:09:29 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 04:12:05 PM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/e00b51d7915f938a78466615dd6111a2/tumblr_inline_nrpqg6TBc61tx79n9_500.gif)
God, how I wish that massive crook ended up in jail.
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 07:05:05 PM
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 07:21:40 PM
Our (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
Post by: antz1uk on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 08:06:46 PM
Our (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
France 98 & France 2016?
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 21 October 2015, 08:09:03 PM
"Rarely"Our (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
France 98 & France 2016?
Post by: Thomson Mouse on Thursday 22 October 2015, 01:38:28 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34603517 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34603517)
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Manchester City have been reported to Uefa after fans were heard booing the Champions League anthem before their win 2-1 over Sevilla on Wednesday.
Match delegate Geir Thorsteinsson, the chairman of the Iceland FA, detailed the incident and disciplinary proceedings have now been opened, with the case set to be heard in November.
It is understood Manchester City will not be commenting on the issue.
However, the club are expected to defend their fans at the hearing.
It is not the first time Manchester City supporters have voiced their anger against Uefa.
Last year a City fan group led a protest against European football's governing body after 650 CSKA Moscow supporters gained access to the Khimki Arena for their Champions League game, despite the Russian club being ordered to play it behind closed doors.
CSKA were handed the sanction as punishment for a series of offences including racist chanting.
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Thursday 22 October 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Post by: magpie1892 on Thursday 22 October 2015, 02:59:51 PM
Our (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
Los Angeles 1984 and Atlanta 1996?
Post by: triggs on Thursday 22 October 2015, 03:06:24 PM
Well I was talking about football but even so America is a bit different in that it is an absolutely massive countryOur (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
Los Angeles 1984 and Atlanta 1996?
Post by: Interpolic on Thursday 22 October 2015, 03:40:10 PM
They're all a bunch of petty divas, the football governors of the world. UEFA deserve nothing but ridicule for that investigation.
Looking at YouTube, they've done it loads of times so not sure why it's been flagged now. This video's from November last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gElyfVepa4
Post by: leffe186 on Friday 23 October 2015, 12:33:42 PM
I just don't have the words. I kinda wish Spurs just stopped existing so I could walk away from the whole thing. Unspeakable c***s investigating unspeakable c***s for booing unspeakable c***s.
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 23 October 2015, 12:47:02 PM
Post by: Village Idiot on Friday 23 October 2015, 12:52:37 PM
Yeah, we have had a bunch of unsuccessful bids since we last hosted a major tournament in 1982, too."Rarely"Our (English) game is corrupt, but not in terms of bribes and bungs, its more corrupt in terms of favouring bigger teams, money inequality and refereeing standards etc. Probably one of the reasons we haven't hosted a major tournament since '96, we are too honest, well too honest for FIFA and UEFA anyway.1996 isn't that long ago in terms of major tournaments. Countries rarely host two tournaments in that space of time. Also England tried to bribe Jack Warner in the 2018 bidding, someone else just bribed him better
France 98 & France 2016?
Post by: Interpolic on Friday 23 October 2015, 12:52:53 PM
Post by: NEEJ on Friday 23 October 2015, 12:53:07 PM
Post by: jdckelly on Friday 23 October 2015, 01:18:30 PM
How can you fine a club for their fans booing an anthem of a competition? It's absolutely nonsensical. :lol:it can happen when you remember uefa, fifa etc view themselves as the real stars of these competitions
Post by: George Bailey on Friday 23 October 2015, 01:25:23 PM
Scrap em all and start again..fining for booing!! LOL
Should invade the pitch and p*ss on the logo imo...in fact take a dump on it.
Champions f***ing league...One of THE main reasons for the death of football. f***ing hate it.
Post by: 54 on Friday 23 October 2015, 01:52:47 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34617198
The Irish Football Association has been fined 7,000 euros following pitch invasions by supporters as Northern Ireland qualified for Euro 2016.
The Uefa fine was imposed as a result of fans encroaching onto the playing area during and after the victory over Greece at Windsor Park on 8 October.
Northern Ireland won the match 3-1 to secure their place at next summer's Euro 2016 finals in France.
The Irish FA has confirmed that it will not be appealing against the decision.
The sanction for the pitch incursions was imposed by the Uefa Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body.
The victory over the Greeks sparked scenes of wild jubilation as Northern Ireland reached their first major tournament in 30 years.
Following the win over Greece, Northern Ireland drew 1-1 away to Finland to secure top spot in Group F.
Post by: Disco on Friday 23 October 2015, 01:58:08 PM
Post by: George Bailey on Friday 23 October 2015, 08:04:43 PM
If the powers had it guaranteed that the game would lose none of it's marketability & money by getting rid of fans who attend the game, they almost certainly would.O0
Absolutely bang on.
They have nothing but contempt for us really, would love to hear some of the private stuff said by 'the powers' within the game.
Utter corporate sluts the lot of em. Money comes first, second and third.
Game is coincidental to their 'package'. It might just have well as been fishing/angling to them.. All about the bung.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Saturday 24 October 2015, 12:30:23 PM
If the powers had it guaranteed that the game would lose none of it's marketability & money by getting rid of fans who attend the game, they almost certainly would.
Spot on. They hate us.
Post by: BottledDog on Tuesday 27 October 2015, 03:15:35 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34629726
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Post by: Disco on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 12:51:14 PM
Post by: sbnufc on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:03:29 PM
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Sepp Blatter says there was an agreement for the 2018 World Cup to go to Russia - even before the vote took place.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1577675/blatter-russia-decision-made-before-vote
Post by: Anon on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:16:49 PM
QuoteSepp Blatter says there was an agreement for the 2018 World Cup to go to Russia - even before the vote took place.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1577675/blatter-russia-decision-made-before-vote
Admitting to rigging the vote, ballsy move Cotton.
Post by: Super Duper Branko Strupar on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:27:28 PM
QuoteSepp Blatter says there was an agreement for the 2018 World Cup to go to Russia - even before the vote took place.
More follows...
http://news.sky.com/story/1577675/blatter-russia-decision-made-before-vote
:lol: This organisation cannot go on.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:35:19 PM
Post by: Tiresias on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:53:23 PM
Post by: Mattoon on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 01:56:27 PM
Post by: 54 on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 02:14:51 PM
Post by: Ketsbaia on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 02:25:30 PM
Ah, missed that this guy had finally thrown his hat into the ring. :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34629726
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Can't believe Blatter has the audacity to run using his porn name.
Post by: Ameritoon on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 02:26:30 PM
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“Platini started it, but then it became politics. And when it is in politics, it is not any longer Platini against me, it is then those who have lost the World Cup. England against Russia. They lost the World Cup. And the USA lost the World Cup against Qatar. But you cannot destroy Fifa. Fifa is not the Swiss bank. Fifa is not a commercial company. So, what they have done together with the Swiss, they have created this attack towards Fifa and the president of Fifa.
“And you are from Tass and you know what are the problems between your country and the US. The Fifa World Cup or the Fifa president is a ball in the big political power game.”
Blatter said Platini’s dislike for him was because: “He wants to be Fifa president. But he had not the courage to go as the president. Fifa is working well. Since I became president of Fifa, we have made Fifa a big commercial company. And this naturally provokes envy and jealousy.”
Post by: mrmojorisin75 on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 02:28:32 PM
This is my favorite bitQuote“Platini started it, but then it became politics. And when it is in politics, it is not any longer Platini against me, it is then those who have lost the World Cup. England against Russia. They lost the World Cup. And the USA lost the World Cup against Qatar. But you cannot destroy Fifa. Fifa is not the Swiss bank. Fifa is not a commercial company. So, what they have done together with the Swiss, they have created this attack towards Fifa and the president of Fifa.
“And you are from Tass and you know what are the problems between your country and the US. The Fifa World Cup or the Fifa president is a ball in the big political power game.”
Blatter said Platini’s dislike for him was because: “He wants to be Fifa president. But he had not the courage to go as the president. Fifa is working well. Since I became president of Fifa, we have made Fifa a big commercial company. And this naturally provokes envy and jealousy.”
:lol:
Post by: Magpie on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:03:09 PM
What are the realistic chances of Russia and/or Qatar losing their respective tournaments? Slim to none?
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:12:34 PM
Post by: Marmoset on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:15:58 PM
Post by: Tomato Deuce on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Absolutely love Blatter. He's basically a bond villain incarnate.
I just love how totally incredulous he is. Like he can't even fathom why all this is happening.
Post by: nufc4eva on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Stupid old b******. How can he in one breath say England and the US lost the World Cup and then in another say it was already to give the World Cups to Russia and Qatar?I hope teams refuse to play in them if they go ahead
What are the realistic chances of Russia and/or Qatar losing their respective tournaments? Slim to none?
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 03:59:25 PM
Post by: mickthemagpie on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 05:12:08 PM
Say what ye like about FIFA but Havelange and Blatter helped turn football into the undisputed global game. If the English were still running it we'd probably be letting 1 token African country into the World Cup and calling it a day. For reference see; the f***ing ICC.
Which is effectively run by India.
Post by: ponsaelius on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 05:18:25 PM
Post by: Anon on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 05:24:23 PM
Quote from: Blatter
England are "bad losers" over perceived media criticism of the 2018 and 2022 Word Cup bidding process
The absolute f***ing stones on this guy :lol:
Post by: Klaus on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 05:38:28 PM
What a bellend :lol:Quote from: BlatterEngland are "bad losers" over perceived media criticism of the 2018 and 2022 Word Cup bidding process
The absolute f***ing stones on this guy :lol:
Blatter I mean
Post by: Flip on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Stupid old b******. How can he in one breath say England and the US lost the World Cup and then in another say it was already to give the World Cups to Russia and Qatar?I hope teams refuse to play in them if they go ahead
What are the realistic chances of Russia and/or Qatar losing their respective tournaments? Slim to none?
Doubt that's going to happen, and fans will still be going to them.
Post by: Toon Hoser on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 06:59:51 PM
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 07:42:38 PM
See, I like this attitude that there has to be some kind of stand made against them but the world cup is the best thing about football so I'd be pretty p*ssed off if there was no real world cup for 12 yearsStupid old b******. How can he in one breath say England and the US lost the World Cup and then in another say it was already to give the World Cups to Russia and Qatar?I hope teams refuse to play in them if they go ahead
What are the realistic chances of Russia and/or Qatar losing their respective tournaments? Slim to none?
Post by: Colo's Short and Curlies on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 07:47:19 PM
See, I like this attitude that there has to be some kind of stand made against them but the world cup is the best thing about football so I'd be pretty p*ssed off if there was no real world cup for 12 yearsStupid old b******. How can he in one breath say England and the US lost the World Cup and then in another say it was already to give the World Cups to Russia and Qatar?I hope teams refuse to play in them if they go ahead
What are the realistic chances of Russia and/or Qatar losing their respective tournaments? Slim to none?
The major clubs would just put on an unofficial tournament in its place. Too much money to be lost (both inside and outside the game) to be having nothing
Post by: HTT on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 07:57:53 PM
Say what ye like about FIFA but Havelange and Blatter helped turn football into the undisputed global game. If the English were still running it we'd probably be letting 1 token African country into the World Cup and calling it a day. For reference see; the f***ing ICC.
It has always been a global game. What them c***s have done is turn it into a corrupt game where the likes of Qatar get to host a World Cup. Meanwhile the Premier League, ran by the English, is the runaway success of modern football...
Post by: triggs on Wednesday 28 October 2015, 08:10:26 PM
Before Havelange there was only one spot in the "World Cup" for Africa and Asia combinedSay what ye like about FIFA but Havelange and Blatter helped turn football into the undisputed global game. If the English were still running it we'd probably be letting 1 token African country into the World Cup and calling it a day. For reference see; the f***ing ICC.
It has always been a global game. What them c***s have done is turn it into a corrupt game where the likes of Qatar get to host a World Cup. Meanwhile the Premier League, ran by the English, is the runaway success of modern football...
Post by: merlin on Thursday 29 October 2015, 02:29:42 AM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.This is total nonsense as is your assertion about the English running the game - and also, in cricket, there is TV examination of disputed calls, something which your corrupt heroes in FIFA have done everything to try to avoid - have you been reading the Grauniad guide to Political Correctness..!?
Post by: merlin on Thursday 29 October 2015, 02:33:53 AM
Could this have been because their sides weren't good enough at that stage..? Many Third World countries have seen lots of money poured into their football development since the 70s because their economies were picking up due to mining etc and when that happens you get an improvement in standards...they were also able to appoint better coaches from Europe.Before Havelange there was only one spot in the "World Cup" for Africa and Asia combinedSay what ye like about FIFA but Havelange and Blatter helped turn football into the undisputed global game. If the English were still running it we'd probably be letting 1 token African country into the World Cup and calling it a day. For reference see; the f***ing ICC.
It has always been a global game. What them c***s have done is turn it into a corrupt game where the likes of Qatar get to host a World Cup. Meanwhile the Premier League, ran by the English, is the runaway success of modern football...
There was a time when England had never lost to Germany, and that only ended in 1968...people need to see past Leftist dogma before making decisions about things....
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 29 October 2015, 03:21:02 AM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.
Cricket being a shitty and boring as f*** sport has done that. Nothing else.
Post by: Magpie on Thursday 29 October 2015, 03:31:10 PM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.
Cricket being a shitty and boring as f*** sport has done that. Nothing else.
Well that's a monumentally incorrect statement.
Post by: Beren on Thursday 29 October 2015, 03:33:30 PM
Post by: DJ_NUFC on Thursday 29 October 2015, 04:02:53 PM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.
Cricket being a shitty and boring as f*** sport has done that. Nothing else.
Well that's a monumentally incorrect statement.
Kaizero sounds like a Colback fan with that statement right there.
Post by: TaylorJ_01 on Thursday 29 October 2015, 04:28:16 PM
I still really want to watch that FIFA film. Reckon it'd be hilarious.
It grossed like 900$ in North America. Lost 25 million dollars. It truly is sickening.
Post by: Kaizero on Thursday 29 October 2015, 06:50:34 PM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.
Cricket being a shitty and boring as f*** sport has done that. Nothing else.
Well that's a monumentally incorrect statement.
Kaizero sounds like a Colback fan with that statement right there.
Ask anyone living outside the colonial countries what they think of cricket.
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 30 October 2015, 12:03:39 AM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.This is total nonsense as is your assertion about the English running the game - and also, in cricket, there is TV examination of disputed calls, something which your corrupt heroes in FIFA have done everything to try to avoid - have you been reading the Grauniad guide to Political Correctness..!?
:lol: For a start, cricket only allows 10 countries to play the full version of the sport, possibly one of the most ridiculous restrictions in any sport anywhere in the world. Then for the World Cup, a tournament by its very nature should least make an attempt to be inclusive and give the game to a greater audience, they've pulled the drawbridge up for associate nations meaning there'll probably not be any of them at the next competition. Last year the big 3 countries literally changed the voting system within the ICC to give themselves more power than everybody else, and made sure to secure that 62% of all revenue will go directly to those 3 countries. Cricket is a sport that revels in its colonial past and the fact that its a sport played by only a handful of countries. And that's why it'll always remain a joke compared to football which has expanded and grown continually since its beginnings.
Video refereeing in football would be absolutely dreadful. Evidence: rugby being f***ing unwatchable, stop-start bollocks.
Post by: merlin on Friday 30 October 2015, 02:19:02 AM
I thought answering this post but then I realized it would be a waste of my time...you are clearly beyond help and should apply for a job with the Iranian propaganda Ministry.England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.This is total nonsense as is your assertion about the English running the game - and also, in cricket, there is TV examination of disputed calls, something which your corrupt heroes in FIFA have done everything to try to avoid - have you been reading the Grauniad guide to Political Correctness..!?
:lol: For a start, cricket only allows 10 countries to play the full version of the sport, possibly one of the most ridiculous restrictions in any sport anywhere in the world. Then for the World Cup, a tournament by its very nature should least make an attempt to be inclusive and give the game to a greater audience, they've pulled the drawbridge up for associate nations meaning there'll probably not be any of them at the next competition. Last year the big 3 countries literally changed the voting system within the ICC to give themselves more power than everybody else, and made sure to secure that 62% of all revenue will go directly to those 3 countries. Cricket is a sport that revels in its colonial past and the fact that its a sport played by only a handful of countries. And that's why it'll always remain a joke compared to football which has expanded and grown continually since its beginnings.
Video refereeing in football would be absolutely dreadful. Evidence: rugby being f***ing unwatchable, stop-start bollocks.
Post by: triggs on Friday 30 October 2015, 02:49:58 AM
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Post by: Kaizero on Friday 30 October 2015, 11:20:14 AM
I may not know how that song goes.
Post by: Beren on Friday 30 October 2015, 11:39:53 AM
Post by: ponsaelius on Friday 30 October 2015, 12:11:31 PM
England, India and Australia have all done their utmost to keep cricket as a shitty minority colonial sport.This is total nonsense as is your assertion about the English running the game - and also, in cricket, there is TV examination of disputed calls, something which your corrupt heroes in FIFA have done everything to try to avoid - have you been reading the Grauniad guide to Political Correctness..!?
:lol: For a start, cricket only allows 10 countries to play the full version of the sport, possibly one of the most ridiculous restrictions in any sport anywhere in the world. Then for the World Cup, a tournament by its very nature should least make an attempt to be inclusive and give the game to a greater audience, they've pulled the drawbridge up for associate nations meaning there'll probably not be any of them at the next competition. Last year the big 3 countries literally changed the voting system within the ICC to give themselves more power than everybody else, and made sure to secure that 62% of all revenue will go directly to those 3 countries. Cricket is a sport that revels in its colonial past and the fact that its a sport played by only a handful of countries. And that's why it'll always remain a joke compared to f